“Do you ever wonder why seeds turn into pines?” “Actually yeah, why is that?” “You’re a star” “What…” “Did we blow your mind????” This cannot be fr I swear
“Here’s a fun allegory” “Oh allegories are fun, what is it?” “It gets me excitatory” “Never heard that word before but sure what is it?” “It might sink in in the morning” “Well we won’t know until you actually say it” “We are our own origin story” “That’s… that’s not an allegory” “If I’m explaining this poorly-“ *”Y O U A R E”*
@@jackdog06 "Well, just let star do it for me." "He doesn't speak..." "This might sink in in the morning." "Why would this suddenly make sense in the morning? Why do you have to explain this in phrases that only make sense at a specific time of day??" "WE ARE OUR OWN ORIGIN STORY! "..."
The sad part is you can feel the concept of what could’ve been.. the evil couple, soulmates, possibly a mute character (starboy), a ‘princess’ or whatever who could’ve been an apprentice, some decent songs (especially seeing the original versions of knowing what I know now and at all costs in my opinion), a good story about revolution including a female lead in a Disney movie who is also a woman of color.. it’s just upsetting seeing what it really could’ve been
It is upsetting, I do feel like I would genuinely have liked the star boy/asha thing they had going on, but honestly my faith in Disney is so low that I don't know if I believe they could have pulled it off
To me, you could’ve pulled the fact that star boy is a literal star so he may not fully understand proper grammar and such.. just pulling that for one song (star’s) and it would fit if the other songs were normal and better sounding or if during this song, Asha was possibly correcting the phrases as Star kinda tries to explain that maybe Asha is also made of stardust and magical.
If I were to make this story.. I’d make it essentially a love story where the kingdom is separated by magic users and non magic users who rely on them. Asha who is Magnifico’s apprentice, finds out how her friends (non magic users) are treated and confronts the monarchs where they decide to use their power to take away her magic and leave her defenseless. She talks to her father and finds Star and they plan together to revolt against the king and queen who have begun to make the magic users powerless and imprisoned them, so they get their stardust back in the end and Asha becomes a sort of mage but doesn’t exactly take the role and instead wants to stay with Star. The end :P
@@brainless_mastermind Yeah; I’m scared that even if they kept their concept personalities that they’d make Star boy too peppy in general in like a toxic positivity way and Asha too pessimistic in a ‘we’re all doomed’ kind of way that would’ve been just upsetting.. I am glad to see the fanbase taking the messy cake and making a new batch of cake pops from it (I hope that made sense. Sorry if these are long btw, I love ranting and your wish videos are really fun to listen to.)
It could have been, here WE are, and it would have been perfectly fine, so I can't help, but feel like this was AI and no one bothered to double check, or very done on purpose.
@@galacticknight55544well, it completely flops as a joke because the deer is supposed to be an Easter egg of Bambi. Bambi is NOT a funny movie or character, he’s pretty smart and curious who becomes a leader at the end of the movie.
The thing that hurts me the most about the use of the word shareholders is that out of ALL of the words that exist for ‘togetherness’, shareholders was the best they could come up with. It’s just so… corporate. Shareholders is also a business only term and shouldn’t be used to refer to the universe as the UNIVERSE IS NOT A COMPANY NOR DO WE OWN PARTS OF IT. WE EXIST IN IT ON ITS OWN TERMS.
I haven't watched Wish, but I recently watched Disney's "The Grasshopper and the Ants" and, man, Wish seems like it's saying the Grasshopper was right when he said "the world owed everyone a living".
It’s very telling as to Disney’s corporate view of the world, but it also just does not go with the setting at all. This is a huge problem in _Wish,_ like when Magnífico says, “Peep the name”….
The funny thing is, as an academic, I would only use excitatory as "the excitatory hormone..." or "It is excitatory." I would NEVER use it to describe a person. Its like the word 'female': female human is correct but it sounds really awful and disconnected. Thats a good word for it: disconnected. It doesn't sound academic, it just makes you sound like an alien.
I was looking for someone who said this! But it's not that excitatory just sounds disconnected, it's incorrect to use it in this context. For an emotion the correct noun is excitment, and for cells, neurons, etc. it's excitation. The example in the dictionary was literally excitatory neuron. So the words are not interchangable. The songwriter only used it for the rhyme. They also have different antonyms (indifferent vs inhibitory). Also, in my native language, Spanish, excitatory neuron sounds almost the same, as most scientific words do (neurona excitatoria), but to be excited is completely different (estar emocionado/a). It just makes it clearer that you can't just change one word for the other
@@Joana_Solà I felt like it was incorrect when I saw it but couldn't explain it. Because, for a simpler example: it makes me blue. So technically an adjective works purely grammatically, but that suffix -tory feels extremely wrong.
"Excitatory" is a word I only ever hear when talking about molecular biology/physics. As in; the atom enters an excitatory state. Excitatory is a quality of something that leaps out from a system, like an electron jumping from an atom when provided energy, which leaves the atom in an excitatory state. Its not at all the same as "excited" as in being happy or surprised
“Watch out world here I are” is probably the worst line in the movie, and that says a lot in a movie that contains lines such as “peep the name, I’m magnificent”, “I let you live here for free and I don’t even charge you rent”, and “throw caution to every warning sign”
You encouraged me to check out the whole genius page, and literally all of the annotations are people just questioning what the fuck is going on in this song. I love it when communities come together
@@scaraptor2106 Oh my god I just checked it too and I was literally crying of laughter while reading through them all. "Watch out, world, here I are" "what a fire line" "Watch out, world, here you are" "they obviously mean 'here you am'"
The second definition of "eloquent" is (if I recall correctly) one of those definitions that sort of fell out of use in the last century or so. Like how "queer" used to be an old-fashioned word for "unusual or odd," but is now pretty much exclusively used in the context of describing sexualities. So no, I'm not letting Disney off the hook for this use of eloquent, especially since the word "elegant" would be much more intuitive for English-speakers of today. (edit) I want that movie about the kidnapped gerbil now.
Especially since also eloquent and elegant are the same number of syllables. So they could have just traded it out and it would have been fine. Also, elegant would have sounded better anyway. Something about the word eloquent just doesn't work in that line, regardless of what the definition is.
The definition of "eloquent" really hasn't drastically changed or expanded like the "queer" example. It still refers to manner of speech, so I am giving Disney absolutely no quarter. What were they thinking? 😬 Edit for clarity on my statement regarding the definition - the "eloquent monument" example may be less literal, but it is still referring to something that is communicating effectively, though it is not literally communicating via words. Using it for dancers without the specific context of what message the dancers are giving feels very wrong, and even if it wasn't incorrect, it would feel really pompous and thus possibly out of character for our purple princess here. Just to make my earlier, very absolute statement a little more well rounded :)
I just realized that they could have said “We eat the leaves and they absorb the sun” rather than “We eat the leaves and they eat the sun. WHAT ARE YOU DOING DISNEY?!?!?
First drafts, given how much time they had, is very likely. The lack of experience on anything but pop music also kneecapped the music, and then putting it in a crematorium by not having the music developed alongside the story/script.
"If I'm explaining this poorly, well I'll let Star do it for me" proceedes to change nothing. What did Star explain/do/show? Nothing. It's like "Still confused? Welp. Ask Star after the song, I'm on a roll!"
@@brainless_mastermind also the I want song. "I want something more for us than this"... This? What's "this"?? America explain!! What do you mean "this"?? What are you unhappy with?? Also, "us"? There's no "us"! You're the only one unhappy with the circumstances! Everyone else are happy! Specify, gurl! I'm boiling. There's so much to say about this movie that it would take YEARS to say it all.
That line is so fascinating to me because they easily could've wrote "Watch out world, here we are" and they, for some incomprehensible reason, did not.
I'd be willing to forgive it if the deer were an integral character to the plot and it's a running gag that he isn't great with grammar, similar to how Megamind would pronounce certain words with the incorrect emphasis because most of his formative education happened at a prison. It's a recognizable character trait and even if it were cringe/annoying, it would be consistent. Having it be a random line in a song with a one-off character just makes it insufferable.
"Here I are" is definitely a line you'd put in a first draft thinking it sounds witty and clever. But cringe at and remove during your first round of editing. I'd guess a lot of "yes-men" were responsible for keeping it in. Also, shouldn't this song have served to introduce Star and what his deal is? Like why exactly did he come down to help Asha in particular? Are all the stars alive? Also, I feel like he should have had the ability to talk... On a different note, I think a writing group sounds pretty neat.
I honestly think any sane human wouldn’t even put that in their draft. You hear it and immediately think “wtf am I doing” ETA: Your other points are great
"so we're gonna answer some questions and, let me tell you what we're going to do, we'll answer some good questions and, if you want questions answered, we'll answer sone stuff..."
First off: Eat the sun just reminds me of Bill Wurtz "Taste the Sun" bit, but at least with Wurtz, it made sense. And in the "Balls of gas" line is a call back from the Lion King, which I would rather watch than Wish. Wish is literally "Procrastination: the Movie" by the fumbles it makes and what was cut.
Usually the thing to do if you’re going for a grammatically incorrect joke is to have someone correct them. Take Phantom of the Opera. An exasperated owner of the theater is being accused of something he didn’t do, and responds, half repeating the accusation with, “And what is it that I’m meant to have wrote? Ugh, ‘written.’” It’s in character for the moment, and shows playfulness without throwing proper usage out the window entirely. If you wanted the animal to look like a buffoon,(which seems to be the case) maybe have the others shout “AM!” after he says that.
My running theory is this was Star's intro song when he still spoke (and was still around) because, like you said, there are tiny nuggets of good in this that would answer the questions Asha and the audience ask about why he's even here to help. But like with all of their songs it seems, they had to move them around and make them generic so that it would "fit" with the new (worse) story. Also, I feel like you could argue the more academic lyrics could be because of Star, since of course he wouldn't know slang like Asha, so he's going to be a lot more formal in his speaking. Anyway, love the new avatar and I really hope you review the other songs as well!
That makes too much sense. They probably wanted to keep the "Im a star!" Phrase because its a good hook but without the context of Star announcing that he literally is a star, they instead had to bullshit it into having a new meaning that could still hold the same weight.
OMG Thank you, this is very good, and you know a lot about the pentameter and rhyme scheme. This song feels so AI generated :( I HATE DISNEY. My condolences for all the distress making this video probably definitely caused, but it is much appreciated. Also the sun is not dependent on us, There are literally uninhabited planets in our solar system that the sun still affects. I too would like to use artillery on this song.
Haha it's so problem, I really enjoy picking apart bad lyrics and wish is so bad that it's genuinely easy. My one note would be the copyright troubles Disney keeps giving me 🙄
The thing about the word "shareholder" is that I was taught a better word, it's somewhat similar but have much wider definition outside the corporate one: "stakeholder".
Re:”Eloquent”: words have denotations and connotations, a dictionary meaning and a common use meaning. The denotation of “eloquent” may technically include monuments and buildings, but the connotation is that it’s a term that applies to intangible nouns like works or sounds.
One backhanded compliment Ill give this song is that the "in the light and in the dark" and the "in your heart and in your scars" lines imply a sense of duality and wholeness that in a competently written song would go so fucking hard! Like, if they were in a Let It Go style "Empowering for me, horrible for thee" musical number then it would probably get people thinking a little bit.
Do they ever say “in the light and in the dark”? I thought the line was “even in your deepest dark”. It’s way worse than the version you presented, but that’s what we got unfortunately😔
My favorite detail is the reprise everyone forgets. They actually also sing the song while dressing as concubines to sneak into the palace, implying that being a man also involves being willing to do something like that
😬 Good God, what "lyrical genius" thought that was a good idea????? I'm pretty sure they do use that line but only once WHAT DID IT COST THEM TO USE IT MORE THAN ONCE?!?!?!?!?!? I'm going back to listen to it again Wish me luck
I can't believe it took me half the video to realise the black circles on your face are those nose holders things on glasses and not very stylised eyes-- Also the video is very entertaining and you're nice to listen to, please don't be afraid to continue making content
i appreciate how thorough and comprehensive this vid essay is. you’re really getting into the nitty gritty of what comprises the song and it helps me understand what not to do i’ll be checking out your other videos as well. i got a very good impression from this vid, being the first that i’ve seen from you
I'd definitely be open to joining a writing critique group, I want to start writing my own series/fanfiction, so I feel that would be a great place for me to finally begin.
13:54 - the worst part about the god foresaken ‘excitatory’ line is that most english speakers are going to recognize the prefix from words we use more often like ‘explanatory’ so you know it’s wrong even if you don’t know the word - plus excited and excitatory mean two different things excitatory means something like excitING as in being able to excite but the sentence structure implies that the word is modifying ‘me’ so it would mean that by hearing the allegory they are now able to excite which while technically not completely wrong is obviously not what they meant… like if they wanted to use excitatory so bad they could have just said “here’s an excitatory allegory” and then wrote a better less incoherent second line but hey these are the same people who looked at “here i are” and said okay enough times for it to actually be put in a high budget film so why should i expect quality
And what makes it even worse is the only reason they did this was to come up with something that rhymes with "allegory" and then proceeded to.. not put an allegory in the rest of the verse. It's almost impressive how badly they managed to screw this up
13:24 I am absolutely convinced that the songwriters have no idea what the word “allegory” means. Its use in the overall context of the song makes it seem like they’re using it as a synonym for “explanation”
@@brainless_mastermind This isn’t even a problem of bad grammar. This is just purposeful ignorance. They have the ability to look these words up, they just choose not to
14:10 that line is the only part of the song that makes me feel something, it's just sung really well and idk the cadence is beautiful to me but I feel it's work best in a different song
A writing critique group sounds interesting! Though I don't think I'd be able to join around this time personally, maybe I'd check it out sometime in the future.
I cannot believe Inside Out 2 came from the studio afterwards. This proves that time, dedication and humility to a project makes a *HUGE* difference from whatever got Wish greenlit
For the record, I would definitely be interested in reading a book about a boy whose pet hamster is kidnapped by gangsters. ..oh wait, that’s just the Pokemon anime… I would still be interested in reading it, though.
11:44 "(leaves) eat the Sun" ... in Cambodian language a photogenic person is said to "eat [the] camera" --- which might serve as a desperately broad interpretation for "eat the Sun" here.
the "here I are" line is like the line you put in as a joke and change later. honestly don't know how that made it into the final product, but also there are A LOT that shouldn't have made it in either
Well, I'll give you a hint of Star's personality. Imagine Star excitedly bouncing around Asha, the protagonist. It might get tangled in red yarn, and instead of frustration, playfully use the yarn to fashion a tiny hat or a celebratory banner. This showcases Star's childlike enthusiasm and its way of encouraging Asha to pursue her dreams with a burst of chaotic joy. You know what, he's the wishing star, maybe a silent but expressive creature after all.
12:45 - and not to mention, earlier in the song he said "Well, I've known the entire time" (iirc, i think that's the goat talking??) so him coming to that conclusion NOW is like. huh
Yes Mulan! " 🎶LET'S get DOWN to BUSI-NESS! ... how can I---- make a MAN---- out of YOU!" or Hunchback: " 🎶GOD HELP-- the OUT casts, HUNG-ry from BIRTH" God & help both strong)
d'aww... musclesister donkey song was my favorite out of encanto, potentially since i related to her the most out of the characters in terms of responsibilities and outside/inside pressure to keep everything (the family) together, and yes, i'm horribly bad at remembering names, lol
That sad thing is, even though this song is terribly constructed, the arc of it could still be very charming! I mean, if they kept Star Boy as a concept (who was inspired by Peter Pan), it would really chararize him. If it was written with the intentional "pseudo intellectual" tone that you mentioned in the video it would show that star boy himself wasn't sure who he was how humans work or what he usually does to help people, making him very nieve and probably new to granting wishes, or maybe has forgotten how. It would also serve the second purpose of referencing the original Peter Pan of the book, who was stated to not know what he was (when he and hook were fighting and Hook taunted him and realize peter had no idea how to define himself, which Hook considered good form.)
And “But if you just see the mushrooms then you'll understand”. When I heard that I had to do a double take cause when sung it sounds like it says “eat” instead of “see”. Which I was like “wow wow wow, is Disney telling kids to do drugs!?”
The way that the “watch out world here I are” can easily be changed to “here we are” or if they really want to go for the stupid tone, just make a baby animal say it and not a grown deer
RE: show don't tell: one of my favorite instances of telling rather than showing is in Alcatraz vs the Evil Librarians by Brandon Sanderson (highly recommend; alcatraz is middle grade but i really liked it and sanderson also writes ya and adult stuff too). It's actually kind of telling one thing and showing the opposite. Alcatraz, the main character, is convinced that he is a bad person, and he tells us this in his narration (the narration is kind of added after the story, when he's writing it all down). The thing is, he tries his best to help people, and blames himself when he fails. That's not something a bad person does. And then you get to the last book, Bastille vs the Evil Librarians, which is written (in universe) by his love interest. She tells us that he's a good person, tries to convince him of it. Alcatraz is an unreliable narrator, but not in the way Mapleshade from Warrior Cats is. Mapleshade is a very bad kitty, but is convinced she's doing the right thing. Alcatraz is a good person, but convinced he's horrible. Telling rather than showing can absolutely work, you as the writer just have to put in the effort.
Love the video!!!! Super cute character thingy ❤❤❤ Just one thing- maybe the background music when you’re talking is a bit loud, I have a hard time hearing some things you say or focusing on your voice not the music. Still gonna watch either way, but just maybe you could turn it down a bit?
What do you guys think of Brainy? SHE'S CUTE RIGHT
She is! 💙💙💙
she's so silly
she’s so pretty
YES
Ur oc?
It's rlly cute I love the art style 🥰
the way “GROWS a pine from a seed” would be instantly better than “TURNS a pine from a seed”
I always assume they're going to then sing "to a tree" or something similar. Like they mentioned seeds but not what they turn into
@@iluvchess14736pine tree
"turns a pine from a seed" sounds like someone speaking English with their first language being something like Swedish, Russian, Norweigen or Spanish
@@Xeorboom why those languages specifically? Is it some svo order thing?
@@iluvchess14736 they're confusing to me
then again... I am part Welsh...
“Do you ever wonder why seeds turn into pines?”
“Actually yeah, why is that?”
“You’re a star”
“What…”
“Did we blow your mind????”
This cannot be fr I swear
LOL, that’s literally how the conversation went. This is such a strange song.
“Here’s a fun allegory”
“Oh allegories are fun, what is it?”
“It gets me excitatory”
“Never heard that word before but sure what is it?”
“It might sink in in the morning”
“Well we won’t know until you actually say it”
“We are our own origin story”
“That’s… that’s not an allegory”
“If I’m explaining this poorly-“
*”Y O U A R E”*
@@jackdog06
"Well, just let star do it for me."
"He doesn't speak..."
"This might sink in in the morning."
"Why would this suddenly make sense in the morning? Why do you have to explain this in phrases that only make sense at a specific time of day??"
"WE ARE OUR OWN ORIGIN STORY!
"..."
And kids, this is NOT how you write a poem. Just because words look like they rhyme DOESN'T mean that they rhyme
What is 1+1?
Answer: You're a star!
BOOM! DID WE JUST BLOW YOUR MINE
The sad part is you can feel the concept of what could’ve been.. the evil couple, soulmates, possibly a mute character (starboy), a ‘princess’ or whatever who could’ve been an apprentice, some decent songs (especially seeing the original versions of knowing what I know now and at all costs in my opinion), a good story about revolution including a female lead in a Disney movie who is also a woman of color.. it’s just upsetting seeing what it really could’ve been
It is upsetting, I do feel like I would genuinely have liked the star boy/asha thing they had going on, but honestly my faith in Disney is so low that I don't know if I believe they could have pulled it off
To me, you could’ve pulled the fact that star boy is a literal star so he may not fully understand proper grammar and such.. just pulling that for one song (star’s) and it would fit if the other songs were normal and better sounding or if during this song, Asha was possibly correcting the phrases as Star kinda tries to explain that maybe Asha is also made of stardust and magical.
If I were to make this story.. I’d make it essentially a love story where the kingdom is separated by magic users and non magic users who rely on them. Asha who is Magnifico’s apprentice, finds out how her friends (non magic users) are treated and confronts the monarchs where they decide to use their power to take away her magic and leave her defenseless. She talks to her father and finds Star and they plan together to revolt against the king and queen who have begun to make the magic users powerless and imprisoned them, so they get their stardust back in the end and Asha becomes a sort of mage but doesn’t exactly take the role and instead wants to stay with Star. The end :P
@@brainless_mastermind Yeah; I’m scared that even if they kept their concept personalities that they’d make Star boy too peppy in general in like a toxic positivity way and Asha too pessimistic in a ‘we’re all doomed’ kind of way that would’ve been just upsetting.. I am glad to see the fanbase taking the messy cake and making a new batch of cake pops from it (I hope that made sense. Sorry if these are long btw, I love ranting and your wish videos are really fun to listen to.)
Right??
"Watch out world here I ARE."
Brb gonna die methinks
That line was most likely put in there on purpose. The writers probably thought it would be funny instead of cringe.
It could have been, here WE are, and it would have been perfectly fine, so I can't help, but feel like this was AI and no one bothered to double check, or very done on purpose.
@@galacticknight55544well, it completely flops as a joke because the deer is supposed to be an Easter egg of Bambi. Bambi is NOT a funny movie or character, he’s pretty smart and curious who becomes a leader at the end of the movie.
Like not even a highschooler with dyslexia could that typo!
The thing that hurts me the most about the use of the word shareholders is that out of ALL of the words that exist for ‘togetherness’, shareholders was the best they could come up with. It’s just so… corporate.
Shareholders is also a business only term and shouldn’t be used to refer to the universe as the UNIVERSE IS NOT A COMPANY NOR DO WE OWN PARTS OF IT. WE EXIST IN IT ON ITS OWN TERMS.
I haven't watched Wish, but I recently watched Disney's "The Grasshopper and the Ants" and, man, Wish seems like it's saying the Grasshopper was right when he said "the world owed everyone a living".
It’s very telling as to Disney’s corporate view of the world, but it also just does not go with the setting at all. This is a huge problem in _Wish,_ like when Magnífico says, “Peep the name”….
Makes sense. This is just another one of their movies that just so happens to be on their 100th year. Gotta please the shareholders!
@@fandroid6491Wish definitely did not please the shareholders
The funny thing is, as an academic, I would only use excitatory as "the excitatory hormone..." or "It is excitatory." I would NEVER use it to describe a person. Its like the word 'female': female human is correct but it sounds really awful and disconnected. Thats a good word for it: disconnected. It doesn't sound academic, it just makes you sound like an alien.
I was looking for someone who said this! But it's not that excitatory just sounds disconnected, it's incorrect to use it in this context. For an emotion the correct noun is excitment, and for cells, neurons, etc. it's excitation. The example in the dictionary was literally excitatory neuron. So the words are not interchangable. The songwriter only used it for the rhyme.
They also have different antonyms (indifferent vs inhibitory).
Also, in my native language, Spanish, excitatory neuron sounds almost the same, as most scientific words do (neurona excitatoria), but to be excited is completely different (estar emocionado/a). It just makes it clearer that you can't just change one word for the other
@@Joana_Solà I felt like it was incorrect when I saw it but couldn't explain it. Because, for a simpler example: it makes me blue. So technically an adjective works purely grammatically, but that suffix -tory feels extremely wrong.
"Excitatory" is a word I only ever hear when talking about molecular biology/physics. As in; the atom enters an excitatory state. Excitatory is a quality of something that leaps out from a system, like an electron jumping from an atom when provided energy, which leaves the atom in an excitatory state. Its not at all the same as "excited" as in being happy or surprised
@@mh56487 absolutely. I've only seen it in papers about the endocrine system. It's not a word you use about people.
Wish lyrics trying to fit in random words for their pop songs:
“Female ladies and male men, presenting is now, the presentation is happening”
“Watch out world here I are” is probably the worst line in the movie, and that says a lot in a movie that contains lines such as “peep the name, I’m magnificent”, “I let you live here for free and I don’t even charge you rent”, and “throw caution to every warning sign”
Yeah, it's honestly a toss up for me, it would be fun to go through and rank the lines from worst to.. least worst lol
funny that two of the lines you picked are from the same song
@ lol those were the worst lines I could think of off the top of my head, just goes to show how bad This Is The Thanks I Get was
“Satirize pseudointellectuals” would be killer lyrics
What can I say I'm a musical genius
Satirize pseudointellectuals, they're all so boring and ineffectual...
another thing that bugs me: why is the goat like “wait so ur dust is my dust?!” after already claiming to “have known the entire time”?
OH YEAH
Yet another example of the animals trying desperately to convince us they're smarter than they are lol
The plot forgot to include him so he forgot his own character
The Genius Lyrics annotations for this song are hysterical.
“So your dust is my dust?”
Annotation: “what?”
You encouraged me to check out the whole genius page, and literally all of the annotations are people just questioning what the fuck is going on in this song. I love it when communities come together
@@scaraptor2106 Oh my god I just checked it too and I was literally crying of laughter while reading through them all.
"Watch out, world, here I are" "what a fire line"
"Watch out, world, here you are" "they obviously mean 'here you am'"
AND ONE OF THEM JUST BEING A DESCRIPTION OF THE ELECTRONIC ARTS (EA) COMPANY IM CRYING
@@aliyah1164 I KNOW ITS INCREDIBLE
The second definition of "eloquent" is (if I recall correctly) one of those definitions that sort of fell out of use in the last century or so. Like how "queer" used to be an old-fashioned word for "unusual or odd," but is now pretty much exclusively used in the context of describing sexualities. So no, I'm not letting Disney off the hook for this use of eloquent, especially since the word "elegant" would be much more intuitive for English-speakers of today.
(edit) I want that movie about the kidnapped gerbil now.
Especially since also eloquent and elegant are the same number of syllables. So they could have just traded it out and it would have been fine.
Also, elegant would have sounded better anyway. Something about the word eloquent just doesn't work in that line, regardless of what the definition is.
Also going off the eloquent as in "expressive", I wouldn't call swaying in the breeze "expressive". Elegant still fits better.
The definition of "eloquent" really hasn't drastically changed or expanded like the "queer" example. It still refers to manner of speech, so I am giving Disney absolutely no quarter. What were they thinking? 😬
Edit for clarity on my statement regarding the definition - the "eloquent monument" example may be less literal, but it is still referring to something that is communicating effectively, though it is not literally communicating via words. Using it for dancers without the specific context of what message the dancers are giving feels very wrong, and even if it wasn't incorrect, it would feel really pompous and thus possibly out of character for our purple princess here. Just to make my earlier, very absolute statement a little more well rounded :)
I still use "queer" as a synonym for "unusual" because it sounds cool and fancy
I just realized that they could have said “We eat the leaves and they absorb the sun” rather than “We eat the leaves and they eat the sun. WHAT ARE YOU DOING DISNEY?!?!?
Like if the leafs eaten the sun ,there will be no sun.
True
WE ABSORB THE LEAVES THEY EAT THE SUN
I love the avatar. The little nose holders make her look cross eyed. She gives huge Miss Frizzle.
Hahaha 🤣 it's the look it's the look
None of this would have happened if Disney just made the Star Boy x Princess love story we all wanted
he's a Star *MAN*
First drafts, given how much time they had, is very likely. The lack of experience on anything but pop music also kneecapped the music, and then putting it in a crematorium by not having the music developed alongside the story/script.
"If I'm explaining this poorly, well I'll let Star do it for me" proceedes to change nothing. What did Star explain/do/show? Nothing. It's like "Still confused? Welp. Ask Star after the song, I'm on a roll!"
Yeah just like "here's an allegory!" And there's actually no allegory 😝😝
@@brainless_mastermind also the I want song. "I want something more for us than this"... This? What's "this"?? America explain!! What do you mean "this"?? What are you unhappy with??
Also, "us"? There's no "us"! You're the only one unhappy with the circumstances! Everyone else are happy! Specify, gurl!
I'm boiling. There's so much to say about this movie that it would take YEARS to say it all.
“I’ll let Star do it for me” STAR CANT TALK?????
I love the avatar! Don't take this the wrong way, but it reminds me a lot of Miss Frizzle
I never really watched that as a kid 😅😅 should have thought of it tho
@@brainless_mastermindlmao your new intro is now “seatbelts everyone”
The fact that literally none of the questions the song asks are ever answered… ever. 🤦🏽♀️
If you really tried, you could probably make an hour long analysis on the line “watch out world, here I are”
If I really tried
i would love that tbh
That line is so fascinating to me because they easily could've wrote "Watch out world, here we are" and they, for some incomprehensible reason, did not.
I'd be willing to forgive it if the deer were an integral character to the plot and it's a running gag that he isn't great with grammar, similar to how Megamind would pronounce certain words with the incorrect emphasis because most of his formative education happened at a prison. It's a recognizable character trait and even if it were cringe/annoying, it would be consistent. Having it be a random line in a song with a one-off character just makes it insufferable.
@@brainless_masterminddo a whole conspiracy about it
"Here I are" is definitely a line you'd put in a first draft thinking it sounds witty and clever. But cringe at and remove during your first round of editing. I'd guess a lot of "yes-men" were responsible for keeping it in.
Also, shouldn't this song have served to introduce Star and what his deal is? Like why exactly did he come down to help Asha in particular? Are all the stars alive? Also, I feel like he should have had the ability to talk...
On a different note, I think a writing group sounds pretty neat.
I honestly think any sane human wouldn’t even put that in their draft. You hear it and immediately think “wtf am I doing”
ETA: Your other points are great
Its like how to write a politician answering a question...😂
Yo??????... (this is so accurate)
"so we're gonna answer some questions and, let me tell you what we're going to do, we'll answer some good questions and, if you want questions answered, we'll answer sone stuff..."
A writers group sounds like a great time
YAY!! I am actually dying to start one
I would really appreciate one!
@@brainless_mastermind I am not a writer, but I’d love to help edit if that’s ok
@@brainless_mastermindDO IT!! That's a great idea!
@@brainless_masterminddo it!
First off: Eat the sun just reminds me of Bill Wurtz "Taste the Sun" bit, but at least with Wurtz, it made sense. And in the "Balls of gas" line is a call back from the Lion King, which I would rather watch than Wish.
Wish is literally "Procrastination: the Movie" by the fumbles it makes and what was cut.
Bill wurtz is a genius lol, his 2.5 second jingles are better than any of these songs 😭😭
@@brainless_mastermind Took the words right out of my mouth.
Usually the thing to do if you’re going for a grammatically incorrect joke is to have someone correct them. Take Phantom of the Opera. An exasperated owner of the theater is being accused of something he didn’t do, and responds, half repeating the accusation with, “And what is it that I’m meant to have wrote? Ugh, ‘written.’” It’s in character for the moment, and shows playfulness without throwing proper usage out the window entirely.
If you wanted the animal to look like a buffoon,(which seems to be the case) maybe have the others shout “AM!” after he says that.
My running theory is this was Star's intro song when he still spoke (and was still around) because, like you said, there are tiny nuggets of good in this that would answer the questions Asha and the audience ask about why he's even here to help. But like with all of their songs it seems, they had to move them around and make them generic so that it would "fit" with the new (worse) story.
Also, I feel like you could argue the more academic lyrics could be because of Star, since of course he wouldn't know slang like Asha, so he's going to be a lot more formal in his speaking.
Anyway, love the new avatar and I really hope you review the other songs as well!
Would make sense since they say that they’ll let Star explain it for them. But Star can’t talk in the movie so wtf? 😂
That makes too much sense. They probably wanted to keep the "Im a star!" Phrase because its a good hook but without the context of Star announcing that he literally is a star, they instead had to bullshit it into having a new meaning that could still hold the same weight.
Aw the little drawing is so cute
Thank you!! She's my fave 🥺🥺
I just noticed the intended irony in the description by making it the same dumpster fire as 15:05, I like it
"Watch out world, here I are!"
I am deceased.
OMG Thank you, this is very good, and you know a lot about the pentameter and rhyme scheme. This song feels so AI generated :( I HATE DISNEY. My condolences for all the distress making this video probably definitely caused, but it is much appreciated. Also the sun is not dependent on us, There are literally uninhabited planets in our solar system that the sun still affects. I too would like to use artillery on this song.
Haha it's so problem, I really enjoy picking apart bad lyrics and wish is so bad that it's genuinely easy. My one note would be the copyright troubles Disney keeps giving me 🙄
The thing about the word "shareholder" is that I was taught a better word, it's somewhat similar but have much wider definition outside the corporate one: "stakeholder".
The avatar stills are so cute!! good vid as always
Aw thank you 😭😭 Audrey did so good with them
Re:”Eloquent”: words have denotations and connotations, a dictionary meaning and a common use meaning. The denotation of “eloquent” may technically include monuments and buildings, but the connotation is that it’s a term that applies to intangible nouns like works or sounds.
One backhanded compliment Ill give this song is that the "in the light and in the dark" and the "in your heart and in your scars" lines imply a sense of duality and wholeness that in a competently written song would go so fucking hard! Like, if they were in a Let It Go style "Empowering for me, horrible for thee" musical number then it would probably get people thinking a little bit.
Do they ever say “in the light and in the dark”? I thought the line was “even in your deepest dark”. It’s way worse than the version you presented, but that’s what we got unfortunately😔
Could you do a full analysis of Make a Man Out of You? It would be interesting to see you show what made that song so amazing.
My favorite detail is the reprise everyone forgets. They actually also sing the song while dressing as concubines to sneak into the palace, implying that being a man also involves being willing to do something like that
more wish lambasting? heck yeass
WATCH OUT WORLD HERE I ARE-!
yup
You're never living that one down disney
Right?! It would have made sense if the lyric was watch out world here we are
😬
Good God, what "lyrical genius" thought that was a good idea????? I'm pretty sure they do use that line but only once WHAT DID IT COST THEM TO USE IT MORE THAN ONCE?!?!?!?!?!? I'm going back to listen to it again
Wish me luck
I can't believe it took me half the video to realise the black circles on your face are those nose holders things on glasses and not very stylised eyes--
Also the video is very entertaining and you're nice to listen to, please don't be afraid to continue making content
i appreciate how thorough and comprehensive this vid essay is. you’re really getting into the nitty gritty of what comprises the song and it helps me understand what not to do
i’ll be checking out your other videos as well. i got a very good impression from this vid, being the first that i’ve seen from you
Maybe first? Thanks for making this, I haven’t watched the movie but I keep hearing about what a nightmare this song is, so this should be fun :)
I'd definitely be open to joining a writing critique group, I want to start writing my own series/fanfiction, so I feel that would be a great place for me to finally begin.
Me too, I would be SO excited to start one!!! And I'd be honored to help you start 😁 Thanks for the feedback!!
I personally think the writing critique group is a great idea.
YAY
“Hey teacher, I don’t get this question” 😅
“WELL IF YOU LOOK AT THE MUSHROOMS THEN YOULL UNDERSTAND”😤
“…wha-“😐
“ALL HAIL THE MUSHROOMS”😡😡😡
"ALL HAIL THE MUSHROOMS!"
"Teacher, we're in the classroom?..."
"😐"
"....?"
"ALL HAIL THE MUSHROOMS!!"
What a big comedown this is from "We Don't Talk About Bruno"!
Look, they just understood that "We eat grass, and it eats our corpses" sounds weird sung like this and had to change it in haste
LETSGOOO ANOTHER BANGER FROM BRAINLESS MASTERMIND
I MISSED YALL SM
15:13 I would've atleast preferred if a character whispered to correct him and he went 'Oh!' or sm idk, maybe quickly say 'Here we are' or sm after
I love the sprite and I love your humor. ❤
AAAAHHH! I WAS SO EXCITED TO SEE THIS!!!
i’d love to see a video about the pros and cons of encanto’s songs! you are not alone in thinking surface pressure was severely lacking, lol
That's a good idea! I'm glad, I always get anxious about criticizing generally.. well-liked things lol
13:54 - the worst part about the god foresaken ‘excitatory’ line is that most english speakers are going to recognize the prefix from words we use more often like ‘explanatory’ so you know it’s wrong even if you don’t know the word - plus excited and excitatory mean two different things excitatory means something like excitING as in being able to excite but the sentence structure implies that the word is modifying ‘me’ so it would mean that by hearing the allegory they are now able to excite which while technically not completely wrong is obviously not what they meant… like if they wanted to use excitatory so bad they could have just said “here’s an excitatory allegory” and then wrote a better less incoherent second line but hey these are the same people who looked at “here i are” and said okay enough times for it to actually be put in a high budget film so why should i expect quality
And what makes it even worse is the only reason they did this was to come up with something that rhymes with "allegory" and then proceeded to.. not put an allegory in the rest of the verse. It's almost impressive how badly they managed to screw this up
0:17 I dunno. Couple years maybe. Though on my device it’s red
13:24 I am absolutely convinced that the songwriters have no idea what the word “allegory” means. Its use in the overall context of the song makes it seem like they’re using it as a synonym for “explanation”
It's crazy to me. Bad grammar is mainstream now 😭
@@brainless_mastermind This isn’t even a problem of bad grammar. This is just purposeful ignorance. They have the ability to look these words up, they just choose not to
*Allegory: **_[noun]_** a story, poem, or picture that can be interpreted to reveal a hidden meaning, typically a moral or political one*
This seems like a great video! Definitely joining the wish hate club
I would love the Writing Critique. That sounds amazing. Also this is a great video
When you get frustrated, it’s honestly diverting to watch❤!
the animated bg is much better than in the previous vids, thanks for listening to the feedback on that :)
I'M IN THE CLUB, 🖕WISH 🖕DISNEY
Welcome back. don't be afraid to branch out away from wish, we'll watch it.
I always thought after system they said 'TOLD HER!''
Solar is.. actually a cute improvement
from a 0 to a 0.25
Told her would have been crazyyy
Hi, i discoverd thus channel last night while doom scrolling the yt video page. I flippin love this videos.
14:10 that line is the only part of the song that makes me feel something, it's just sung really well and idk the cadence is beautiful to me but I feel it's work best in a different song
It's really the brief glimpses of good songwriting that make this movie so frustrating
A writing critique group sounds amazing!
A writing critique group sounds interesting! Though I don't think I'd be able to join around this time personally, maybe I'd check it out sometime in the future.
Of course! No pressure to join or anything. I will have a free discord server set up, so you could also join that if you want! 👍
Omg yes I would LOVE to have a writing critique group, I’ve actually been looking for a place to do that!
YAY! I will be setting up a discord group soon, stay tuned
I cannot believe Inside Out 2 came from the studio afterwards. This proves that time, dedication and humility to a project makes a *HUGE* difference from whatever got Wish greenlit
The critique group is def something I’d like to join! Sounds like such a helpful thing to participate in
I'm so excited!! Stay tuned I'll be working on getting it up
For the record, I would definitely be interested in reading a book about a boy whose pet hamster is kidnapped by gangsters.
..oh wait, that’s just the Pokemon anime…
I would still be interested in reading it, though.
Pretty much the whole album is an incoherent mess, then again I'm not surprised given this is the same studio that gave us The Scuttlebutt.
Don't even talk to me about the Scuttlebutt SMH
11:44 "(leaves) eat the Sun" ... in Cambodian language a photogenic person is said to "eat [the] camera" --- which might serve as a desperately broad interpretation for "eat the Sun" here.
extremely underrated channel
You have no idea what that means to me 🥹
YES!!! Also I love your persona/lil guy. If I drew fanart, where should I send it? I’ll try to leave a nicer better comment when I finish the video.
I love the idea of a writing group, bet everyone will be super cold though...surrounded by drafts
BOOM
The fact that people are still farming Wish for content makes me happy inside, also the description lol
Okay but honestly your voice is so amazing girl
Aw what thank you 🥺
the "here I are" line is like the line you put in as a joke and change later. honestly don't know how that made it into the final product, but also there are A LOT that shouldn't have made it in either
I really like Lin Manuel Miranda's style but the problem is so far he's the only one who can pull it off, and all the knockoffs are t e r r i b l e
Well, I'll give you a hint of Star's personality. Imagine Star excitedly bouncing around Asha, the protagonist. It might get tangled in red yarn, and instead of frustration, playfully use the yarn to fashion a tiny hat or a celebratory banner. This showcases Star's childlike enthusiasm and its way of encouraging Asha to pursue her dreams with a burst of chaotic joy. You know what, he's the wishing star, maybe a silent but expressive creature after all.
I would love a writing group! I'm an English major whose now in her Master program going for her Teaching degree and I would love a writing group!
HEHE I'm so happy, I really want to start one
3:47 you should read the comments on the UA-cam posts of the songs 😭💀
I always wonder why disney princessers look up the sky for answers and I know now 😏😉 KNOWING WHAT I KNOW NOWWWWWWWWWW
Also if you eat the mushrooms you may actually enjoy this show IoI.
I thought the last video would be the last one on Wish. But watch out, world, here she are!
I has come back
🎵 Watch out world here i are 🎵
12:45 - and not to mention, earlier in the song he said "Well, I've known the entire time" (iirc, i think that's the goat talking??) so him coming to that conclusion NOW is like. huh
That's true lol, the goat knows more than all of us...
Yes Mulan! " 🎶LET'S get DOWN to BUSI-NESS!
... how can I---- make a MAN---- out of YOU!" or Hunchback: " 🎶GOD HELP-- the OUT casts, HUNG-ry from BIRTH" God & help both strong)
Wow nice work!!! 💯
d'aww... musclesister donkey song was my favorite out of encanto,
potentially since i related to her the most out of the characters in terms of responsibilities and outside/inside pressure to keep everything (the family) together,
and yes, i'm horribly bad at remembering names, lol
Ah, I love your avatar!
Aw thank you!!
Watch out world, here I are. 🤦🏻♂️
That sad thing is, even though this song is terribly constructed, the arc of it could still be very charming!
I mean, if they kept Star Boy as a concept (who was inspired by Peter Pan), it would really chararize him.
If it was written with the intentional "pseudo intellectual" tone that you mentioned in the video it would show that star boy himself wasn't sure who he was how humans work or what he usually does to help people, making him very nieve and probably new to granting wishes, or maybe has forgotten how.
It would also serve the second purpose of referencing the original Peter Pan of the book, who was stated to not know what he was (when he and hook were fighting and Hook taunted him and realize peter had no idea how to define himself, which Hook considered good form.)
You are HILARIOUS!!
When they said "We eat the leaves and they eat the sun," I wheezed all the air out of my lungs.
And “But if you just see the mushrooms then you'll understand”. When I heard that I had to do a double take cause when sung it sounds like it says “eat” instead of “see”. Which I was like “wow wow wow, is Disney telling kids to do drugs!?”
We need to remake this
With starboy and how Walt would have wanted
We’re back!
I think the line about the balls of gas was a reference to The Lion King, because that's what Pumba calls the stars
Oh wait you're so right! That's funny. Another instance of the movie stepping on its own toes to cram as much nostalgia in as possible then
The way that the “watch out world here I are” can easily be changed to “here we are” or if they really want to go for the stupid tone, just make a baby animal say it and not a grown deer
RE: show don't tell: one of my favorite instances of telling rather than showing is in Alcatraz vs the Evil Librarians by Brandon Sanderson (highly recommend; alcatraz is middle grade but i really liked it and sanderson also writes ya and adult stuff too). It's actually kind of telling one thing and showing the opposite. Alcatraz, the main character, is convinced that he is a bad person, and he tells us this in his narration (the narration is kind of added after the story, when he's writing it all down). The thing is, he tries his best to help people, and blames himself when he fails. That's not something a bad person does. And then you get to the last book, Bastille vs the Evil Librarians, which is written (in universe) by his love interest. She tells us that he's a good person, tries to convince him of it. Alcatraz is an unreliable narrator, but not in the way Mapleshade from Warrior Cats is. Mapleshade is a very bad kitty, but is convinced she's doing the right thing. Alcatraz is a good person, but convinced he's horrible. Telling rather than showing can absolutely work, you as the writer just have to put in the effort.
I think this song could be something if asha was like "bro wtf are you saying??" the whole time
That would legit be hilarious
Love the video!!!! Super cute character thingy ❤❤❤
Just one thing- maybe the background music when you’re talking is a bit loud, I have a hard time hearing some things you say or focusing on your voice not the music. Still gonna watch either way, but just maybe you could turn it down a bit?