What Makes Wish's Music So Bad?
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- Опубліковано 21 лис 2024
- People have been clowning primarily on Wish's awful lyrics, but I think the issue goes MUCH deeper than a few bad lines. Wish is easily one of the worst films I have ever seen, so join me on my journey to make fun of all its hilarious flaws.
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absolutely NOT with that homophobia and transphobia? lol 17:39
@@JJUN3 How was that homophobic and transphobic? I don't understand 😅
In the book version of the movie, there's a powerful line from Magnifico. It's when he captures Star and asks something along the lines of ''Where were you when I needed you? What makes the girl so special?''
Oh woah really? That's actually really heartbreaking for him...
What book are you talking about? I thought that was just a rumor floating around, not an original concept from the film?
@@thoughtsofaleo2916 Disney Wish: The Graphic Novel.
@@thoughtsofaleo2916 Or Disney Wish: A Recipe for Adventure.
@@thoughtsofaleo2916Probably the book of Wish concept art
If i were the king, i would just keep doing what im doing. I don't need a teenager telling me im doing something wrong.
I mean, everything seems fine and the rules for getting your wish granted are pretty well communicated.
Exactly Like Asha had no idea what she was talking about
"The Madrigal Family" song is so good because Mirabel is keeping her identity a mystery while sharing her family's powers with the kids for a reason. Unlike "Welcome to Rosas", where we don't know anything about Asha, this song reveals A LOT about Mirabel. At first, she sees the kids as an opportunity to feel included and belong with her family.... but things get messy when the kids ask about her own magical gift, leading to Dolores exposing the truth that she doesn't have one. This revelation shows that Mirabel has been putting up walls to protect herself, as she's deeply affected by being seen as a burden due to her lack of magical gift. If the kids hadn't shown up, Mirabel wouldn't have had a reason to sing about her family in the first place. There's a story reason behind it, which makes it an important part of the movie.
Agree
"Watch out world, here I are!" should be considered a war crime and against the Geneva convention.
Edit: Thank yall for 1000 likes
I feel like one of the composers put "here I ara ara" as a joke but then the execs kinda liked the "ar" sound
It should be "Watch out world, here I come!".
@@bringbackpbskidsgo4562 how about "Watch out world, here we are"?
@@michaelawalton6579 ok...
I second this decision
As most people know by now, the Queen was ALSO supposed to be a villain... Imagine how could it would have been if she _betrayed_ Magnifico, tricking everyone into thinking she was the manipulated, when really she was the mastermind the whole time, setting it up for a sequel... (But of course, what we got wasn't at all good enough for a sequel).
right!!! they were supposed to be the first villain couple (they were also supposed to have an evil cat, which would’ve been a nice nod to Lucifer from Cinderella,) and don’t even get me started on the fact that Star was supposed to be Starboy. now i’m one of those weird ppl who actually likes Wish, but i’d like it even more had the executives not rushed the story and pushed aside the amazing concepts they already had! imagining Asha in that orange color palette and beautiful natural hair she had in one of her original designs would’ve been *very* refreshing, because i don’t think there’s any Disney Princess who wears orange!
I’m 80% sure that I’m a Star is about the concept of “we’re all made of stars”, where in the actual world, stars come into existence and make chemicals, die and make more chemicals, and those chemicals (like carbon) are part of everything, so we’re all “made of stars” and therefore we’re all the same. Not that we’re special or that nothing matters, but that all people are the same, and therefore division bad unity good, be nice and don’t do racism and stuff.
It’s also literally the WORST way to communicate that concept. There’s a song “we’re all made of stars” from a real musical (finding neverland) and it communicates this message competently. How do you mess up this badly.
Also, Christian here! I actually don’t mind some nihilistic messaging! The message “if there’s no meaning in life, then we make our own meaning, and we should choose to just try to be better today than we were yesterday and generally not be a dick” is good! “Love thy neighbor” is one of the core messages in the Bible, and no matter how someone gets there, I can’t see how that can be a negative. But that’s just me, idk.
Yea agreed
Btw i dont think the song is talking about how everyone is cosmic stardust i think its just oh dont care about that the answer is that everyone is special and a star in their way
That type of philosophy is actually existentialism! It's pretty cool. I'm an athiest and I firmly believe that there is no objective, all-encompassing point to life. Life just happens, and we should make the most of it! We are all unique individuals with our own thoughts and personalities, so we should each make our own meaning. You're a kind person that loves helping other people? Maybe you make your life's purpose to help as many people as possible, and maybe that leads you to becoming a doctor or firefighter. You're invested in the next generation? Maybe you make it your life's meaning to teach children and help them grow!
I just think this philosophy is super cool, sorry 😅
And yeah, I have no idea how Wish BOTCHED I'm a Star that badly lol. I heard that the songwriter literally didn't know what the movie was about and was given vague directions on what to write the song about. That excuses the vagueness of the lyrics but... I don't think I can excuse the abysmal writing under ANY circumstances. The sheer amount of grammatical errors and nonsensical metaphors cannot be excused by not knowing what the movie is about.
Me too
Was not expecting a Bible study in this Disney video ahaha. I will say I disagree with you on the take about nihilism, I think "I'm a star" was just trying to be like "we're all connected yay!" but just did so in the worst way possible. Really the worst part of the story (and the reason it feels so empty and bleak) is that none of the characters have any motivation for anything. The king is barely evil, and therefore Asha has no real reason to oppose him so much. That just makes her seem petty and selfish in general, forbidden fruit analogy notwithstanding.
That said, though, it's absolutely wild in every way that Encanto, which came out TWO YEARS before Wish, is a movie from the same company with all the correct morals from a Christian standpoint. Not only are the characters themselves canonically Christian, but the story is full of messages about family, forgiveness, community, intrinsic self-worth, renewal, miracles (both large and small)--all very biblical stuff. Add that to the fact that everything about Encanto is far better than Wish in every way...really makes you wonder what the heck happened in just two years lol.
See, this is a better take on the song and nihilism than a lot of others I've seen in the comments here. It COULD have had a good message, but because it's written so poorly and isn't connected to anything else in the movie it comes across as meaningless.
One thing I wish Encanto did was have the family members be more involved in the plot. It definitely is a better movie but the characters didn't have much to do.
As a Christian, 16:53 felt a little too pushy. I was fine with the Adam and Eve/Garden of Eden stuff, but I felt like the other stuff was a bit too harsh on non-Christians.
Also, bacon did kind of say he might be pushing it a little bit or that it was definitely not intentional, but there are some similarities there so at least he’s self aware
Exactly this. Especially the picture that was used at around 17:39 😭 Like “You’d be happier if you were gay” among other things is WILD
Not being a Christian, it did feel like it was really pushy… and the ‘being made in god’s image’ really misses the point in my eyes.
He's joking lol
Fr. I'm Christian, too. But I'm sure other religions and people also have hope. And saying all that while comparing Magnifico to God made it a little weird.
Additionally, as a not-a-christian, "we're all stardust" isn't meant to make you think you're nothing. It's meant to say we're all connected. So many times i hear christians say "without god there is no meaning to anything" and that's pretty forking dark and nihilist. Like hearing "without god, everyone would rpe and hurt people and steal" and that tells you exactly what that person thinks. They're saying that without having their god over them, they would be participating in said bad things.
As an athiest, knowing that all life is connected, that humans are no different from the rest of the creatures on the planet except for perhaps written language and thus more advanced technology passed down generationally while being very good at being an invasive species so spreading out to all areas of the globe, i find so much meaning in the life i have rather than just twiddling my thumbs until my death to get to the meaningful thing of "my next life"
It is correct that the song doesn't answer the questions. The question is "why does all these things happen" and the answer is "we're all connected". Why are there tree rings? We're connected. Why does the sun go down at night? We're connected. It's a stupid response, but it isn't nihilism.
I appreciate you saying this. As someone who is agnostic myself, that’s such a horrible misunderstanding of non-Christian beliefs. I’m not a perfect person obviously, but I’m able to function and be a decent human without the moral guidance of a book. It’s basic empathy.
@@katrp_5700
My reward for being a good and moral person is that i feel good and get social brownie points. Not heaven. Like gifting someone something at christmas to see them happy you thought of them rather than because you want a gift in return.
I owe my father 70 dollars and he won't ask for it because I'm good for it (i have it in my wallet for the next time i see him). I am considered trustworthy and am very loyal to my friends. Because it feels good to be.
That said, the meaning i find in life is something i had to find for myself. I'm still not planning on kids so it isn't procreation. I love science and learning, but i also love helping others from the shadows (like setting the stage for someone else to shine). Religion just wasn't in the cards for me
Thank you so much for saying this, I was thinking the same thing!! The message that "we're all stardust so everything's connected in a way" is comforting. No idea how he read hopelessness or meaninglessness into that lol.
I know how he meant it.
Ex-atheist here.
The christian world view does not exclude us being made of star dust (from dust you came, dust you will become). It excludes that that was an accident or just coincidence.
In the christian worldview, God had thought each of us into existence before He even created the world. He loved us all, specifically you personally!, to create YOU.
Beats your existence being a coincidence by far imo😊
That does not mean atheists are by default degenerates, and that is not what the video said or implied. It's just that a secular worldview has more chance to lead into nihilism, because if you are your own 'summum bonum', 'highest good', it's way easier to cut some moral corners when dilemmas arise.
(Granted, there are christians who fall into that too. The human condition affects us all, we are all sinners). Without a summum bonum outside of yourself, it gets sometimes hard to cope with the hard things in life. It can get really close to break you, can lead to despair and depression.
At least that was the case with me. And then i fell back into the catholic Church, and whoa... suddenly i was flooded with an inner peace that i was looking for so long! And that inner peace comes from a connection to God, and makes it just easier to cope with life, and do the right things.
@@MrsYasha1984
"Fell back into the catholic church" sounds like you were of the faith and left it temporarily. Going back into the faith generally means you never became atheist (as it is incredibly difficult to believe something, not believe it, then believe it again), which makes it hard to determine if your difficulty to find meaning was due to your struggle during a time of not wanting to believe. For you, it was likely that your belief in god and my unbelief are as inshakable as "the sky is blue" (try to convince yourself to actually believe the sky is royal purple or forest green and you'll never truly believe it).
But back to the religious comment, i do in fact need to point out that that god specifically does not in fact have to love you and want your existance. The abrahamic god starts with the same source material before each sect added their own work to it to change the god. The self-proclaimed jealous and wrathful god has to use rainbows to remind himself that destroying all life with a flood is no longer an option. Many people's lives were only as important as their worship or what they could do for god, such as any time god has someone killed for not believing (this is any city razed to the ground throughout the ot, or the innocent people wiped out in sodom, but also the installation of new kings and killing of people otherwise innocent just because they did not fit the idea god had). I think it was tamar who had her husband die, then her husband's brother was killed by god entirely because he did not want to get her pregnant. King david tried to rush into a marriage to have a pregnancy be legitimate and god tortured the resulting baby for a week before killing it. Job's family was killed (except his wife) to test his faith. Moses led a troop through the believers and had some 3k people killed because they weren't following the rules they hadn'r heard yet.
Sure, the "chosen" people were supposed to receive good things, but that was entirely off the backs of the non chosen people. God didn't care for the firstborns of egypt when he killed them, nor for the needy when he had his followers turn all water in the land to something undrinkable for a while (i don't think it was a full week, but it wasn't just a day, either). He sent a bear to attack children, sent flaming snakes at people who asked for water, drowned the world because he regretted things...
You *cannot* convince me that that god is good and loves everyone and wants the best for us. You aren't even a chosen person if you believe in christianity since that religion follows a false prophet just as much as mormonism does with joseph smith (and the abrahamic god would not take kindly to that as the first rule of the religion is "there's only one god and it's me")
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as a christian i think your point on i’m a star was a weird reach. it’s actually meant to do the opposite, trying to argue that everyone is important and magical considering how stars are the most important thing in this film. it’s a bad, bad song but i wouldn’t go that far
I agree
I’m not a Christian but I am an optimistic nihilist, and I also felt like it was a bit of a reach. The song is largely meaningless (I’m pretty sure the only thing it was supposed to accomplish was explaining why Asha connected with the star and why she can understand the animals sometimes?) so I don’t blame them for seeing something like that in it at all, but I don’t think it was ever meant to just say everyone is meaningless stardust, it was *supposed* to say we’re all connected and inherently magical so it could tie in the “wish on yourselves” ending it had going (again, extremely poorly executed, but not the point). I’d also like to mention that the nihilism brought up in the video is pessimistic nihilism, and that a lot of people instead subscribe to optimistic nihilism, where you say “the world has no inherent meaning, so let’s make our own” instead of just laying down and accepting that we’ll all die one day or whatever. I agree that the movie he brought up had a pessimistic nihilist message that is overall harmful, but it’s not representative of nihilism as a whole. Optimistic nihilism is a pretty good worldview and motivator for a lot of agnostics/atheists like myself :)
Yeah 😅
Tbh i can see were he comes from with magnifico and the forbiden fruit, but this part did seem like a jump and i also disagree but only on the topic of the song
Yeah I agree! The message was so weird at that part. The “you’d be happier if you were gay” at 17:39 is just like??? NO ONE is saying that. In fact, I’d argue that they say the opposite. Just because it’s becoming more accepted doesn’t mean it’s being pushed onto children. It’s just a weird message to include if we’re talking about why the songs in the movie are flopping.
17:40 "You'd be happier If you were gay" is just wild? Also like why was there so much christianity in a video about a wish movie like I get the garden of Eden stuff and interpretetuon cuz that was interesting but you dont have to push your beliefs lol
The climax in Mulan: She worked with her friend Mushu to KILL the villain.
The climax in Lion king 1: Simba is fighting his uncle to save his kingdom.
The climax in Aladdin: Alasdin fight Jafar in a fire circle.
Wish's climax: The citizens sings and it somehow defeat a powerful sorcerer?
It makes no sense, is not cool or entertaining either. Worst climax in disney's history ☹️
For real it was literally the most underwhelming part in the movie(okay, maybe not, but definitely one of them) and actually the whole movie was. You watch it once and you go "hm, yeah once is good enough" whereas the others there is so many things you can go back and rewatch and it amazes you every time
That let it grow ending was so
disappointing IMDb said Asha and Magnífico duel it out but no all there was was “so I make this wiiiiiish”
Treating Jesus like other cultures aimless and looking for something because they don’t have them is so Christian.
I completely agree with your points on At All Cost. It is a good song, but it not relevant in the movie's story. It a hero and villain duet, but has the tones of love song. Tonally it can give people the wrong idea out of context because in the movie Asha just met Magifico. Heck, the main song writer purposely want people to use it for their weddings and lullabies. But the main point of it on perspective of protecting wish's? Which on is it? A love song or a song about protection?
This is my biggest issue with the music in Wish; these songs weren't created with storytelling in mind. They half-heartedly assist sometimes, but they don't exist as a way to progress the story or reveal something to the audience that is integral to the characters/plot. And it makes sense since the songwriter was tasked to write the songs before the movie was even completed. Creating "At All Costs" to be meaningful to anybody in the audience is logically fine for regular songs, but it shouldn't be for a musical number. It should be integral to the similarities and differences between the protagonist and the villain: they start on the same page but by then end, it's clear they have different priorities or ideas of how to fulfill their goals. If the audience finds meaning in the song outside of its story context, that's amazing, but it shouldn't be the goal of the songwriter.
@@Rikrobat I agree, the song should tackle the similarities and differences between Asha and Magnifico. The only information we get is protect the wishes and how wonderful there are. That is not enough for a villain and hero duet.
@@ianmurphy3840 - Especially when it can be the first hint that Magnifico is willing to do anything to maintain things “as they are” versus Asha who wants the people to thrive with their wishes. (Of course, the visuals would have to change so that Asha isn’t only focusing on her grandfather’s wish while singing about protecting everyone’s wishes, but I digress. XD)
I feel like the christianity part was lowkey useless too, because everyone has different beliefs and just because nihilism was so oddly and badly portrayed in some media doesn't mean it's bad. I personally don't ascribe myself to any beliefs except my own morals and the belief that every living being not necessarily has worth? Because what does that even mean? To be worthy of something is a odd concept, I would rather say we all have the right to a good and fulfilling life, but it's only up to yourself to figure out what you want and achieve it all while respecting and not putting down or hurting others
17:00 was such a religious jumpscare yowza. My agnostic jaw was on the floor when it hard shifted into Christianity
yeah, it WAS kind of a hard turn into Christiandom, but admittedly the Adam and Eve parallel earlier was a BIT of a sign for what was ahead ;)
@@opinionatedbacon a bit lol. Lots of non-christians also tend to make Bible parallels in analyzes because it's a very popular and influential piece of media whether you believe in it or not, but a lot of non-religious people I know also see the serpent as more of a morally gray character instead of evil. The actual foreshadowing that I probably should have picked up on more was you calling the serpent the villain.
not to mention the homophobic/transphobic graphic he threw up at the same time. i was flabbergasted
@@runefactoryappreciator899 Omg I think I missed that, where was it?
@@giuba98 17:39, read the text bubbles on the thing he pulled up. i’m paraphrasing but two of them were like “people will only like me if i’m gay/a different gender”
why the random preaching in the middle of the video. im not against religion, i was all for the parallels you were making with adam and eve, but i cannot stand being preached to. didn't ask, don't care, and am now more bitter towards christianity. thanks!
... You're not against Christianity, but a Christian tangent made you bitter towards... Christianity?
"I didn't want to be preached to." Hey, us Christians don't want to be preached to that our God is a lie. But we aren't bitter towards atheism. You have no excuse, it's literally just you being unable to process the fact that not all of us subscribe to the idea of there being no God.
@@ECSOrder66I agree
'There's no meaning to life' doesn't mean that nothing matters--it means that you create your own meaning and follow your own path.
THIS!!
It's annoying when people assume that because I don't think there's a grand reason or meaning to life, that I think nothing matters. It just means that there isn't a predetermined purpose for existence, but it doesn't make anything matter less to us while we're alive
SAY IT LOUDERRR👻✨
No, because you can't actually create something. We don't have that ability. We can only rearrange what's already here. If meaning doesn't exist, we can't make it.
@@avivastudios2311 Meaning is not a physical thing. We can create meaning. It is not matter.
Great review dude. Just two things:
There is a difference between nihilism and positive nihilism. I haven't seen the Orion movie, but if the message is "nothing in the end will matter, so do what makes you happy," I do not think is a bad message, since we live in a very anxiety heavy society. But I haven't seen the movie. Will check it out and see if you are right
And i just want to say to everyone who has religion trauma like I do: the answer for all questions, comes from you. God it is not the ultimate answer for everyone. If it is for many people, great! It was my answer for a while until I realized following the word of God blindly made me unhappy. If the answer for you isn't God, that is okay.
The ultimate answer isn't, and it doesn't have to be God
Positive nihilism is just dishonest nihilism. It’s Mr. Peanut Butter vs. Bojack.
Allocating meaning to yourself is what’s exacerbating anxiety because now you’re the sole reason for triumph or failure. No one’s there to catch you or help you. And in any circumstance beyond your agency, it’s all up to you to turn it around and if you can’t, too bad. Not everyone lives that out but that’s only because they haven’t followed that line of thinking to its natural conclusion. Besides, “humans make meaning in a meaningless world” is circular reasoning. If there is no meaning then it should not be comprehensible to us, much less accessible to make-much like creating a new color-we don’t have the tools to make or understand something that doesn’t exist in some form (even our fantasy art uses bits of reality).
As for Christianity, “Follow the Bible” can range from “participate in aspects of Christian culture that may or may not align with Scripture” to “confuse Christian living with salvation and burn out trying to be perfect while claiming I live by grace” to “fully understand the gospel and its implications”. For many, it’s usually the first two and once they’re done, they don’t go back and simply question whether they actually had a sustainable theology. One person tried to warn me that I should leave the faith because she was so passionate and it damaged her. But I never held the belief that I have to participate in everything and hold to a strict regimen and try my hardest to feel holy in order to be a “good Christian” like she did. The gospel brings rest because at its core you’re admitting you’re not perfect and you need and have a Savior. Freed from the guilt of sin, you have genuine agency and are given a sense of real meaning that isn’t based on circular reasoning. Now I don’t HAVE to make my own meaning, I can just be, because it’s taken care of. I don’t have to find my own fate or even worry about finding some obscure idea of “God’s plan” (a product of Christian culture using Isaiah out of context) because my God-given agency as a Christian IS part of the plan.
All that to say, consider looking again. Was your theology sustainable to begin with, or was it woven in with other teachings and movements?
@@Window4503My guy, no that's not "dishonest nihilism" it's way closer to the actual philosophy of Nietzsche than the other one.
There is no god, there is no destiny, you don't have to live up to anything. So it's just up to you to figure out what makes you happy.
To quote Terry Pratchet:
"YES. AS PRACTICE. YOU HAVE TO START OUT LEARNING TO BELIEVE THE LITTLE LIES.
"So we can believe the big ones?"
YES. JUSTICE. MERCY. DUTY. THAT SORT OF THING.
"They're not the same at all!"
YOU THINK SO? THEN TAKE THE UNIVERSE AND GRIND IT DOWN TO THE FINEST POWDER AND SIEVE IT THROUGH THE FINEST SIEVE AND THEN SHOW ME ONE ATOM OF JUSTICE, ONE MOLECULE OF MERCY. AND YET-Death waved a hand. AND YET YOU ACT AS IF THERE IS SOME IDEAL ORDER IN THE WORLD, AS IF THERE IS SOME...SOME RIGHTNESS IN THE UNIVERSE BY WHICH IT MAY BE JUDGED.
"Yes, but people have got to believe that, or what's the point-"
MY POINT EXACTLY."
It's not "circular reasoning", it's only humans, it's basic logic. Humans made up faith, humans made up all the gods that were ever worshipped, humans made up the hospel, humans created your saviour. Humans created everything you believe in. We are the only ones who can create meaning.
Maybe you are unwilling to accept it, but you also make up your own meaning, you choose to believe the human created concept if God. A concept humans created, to give meaning to things.
Some people are just more honest abouth doing it, or aren't satisfied with the pre created options.
@@Window4503 whole lotta words that i can just retort to you with:
Have a support system. *Any* positive support system.
Hell, have many different support systems!
We're not born with a purpose, so *find* meaning in the life you live every day.
Whether it be finding love, compassion, understanding, or just self-fulfillment, you can find ways to achieve all of these. Friends, Family, Communities, Hobbies, Faith, (...)
These are source that can have either positive or negative effects on your overall life and happiness, and it IS up to you to seek that quality of life and that happiness. You owe it to yourself! You *deserve* to be happy and loved, no matter where that comes from.
We're all just trying to get by! Each of us has our own way! It's ok if mine and yours aren't the same, it's just my job to respect you and give you the empathy you deserve.
Like the bible says, Love Thy Neighbor!
17:39 Kids deal with a lot of negative messages nowadays thanks to social media, but oh my gosh. "The only reason you feel uncomfortable is because you're the wrong gender" ??? And "You'd be happier if you were gay" ???
If someone is sharing that they're happier because they're gay, its because that is THEIR experience. THEY were made to feel worthless for being gay or not identifying with their body. People can be straight and cis and perfectly happy! Most people are! But having discussions about how accepting yourself as who you are is NOT trying to tell kids "be gay its better". Its telling them that "even if youre different, you are wonderful and have value."
I grew up Christian and am a lesbian. I was constantly ostracized and othered for being different, even before I fully understood myself. Having other people share that they had experiences like me was seriously life changing. We need to have these conversations for those who need them. Its not hating on cis or straight people to say that there are other types of people out there!! Its not taking away any sort of rights from them!
Fr like I ain't ever seen someone say they'd be happier if they were gay or trans
Usually I see ppl tryna push themselves away from that
Cuz of the osztrozing you was mentioning 😭
@@kodiharmon7738 💯💯💯
facts, the happiness comes from being yourself and being accepted for it not from being gay or trans
frrrrrrr i hate when Christians bring up Bible verses when people are open about their identity like shut up I don’t need to “be saved” (Im Christian btw)
@@maryoraha2637 some Christian. Talk about a hypocrite
I was e joying the review of the music until "the reason is... your a star is so meaningless, because the reason is God". Yep you stop analysing the movie to feel hurt about your believes. Both answer are pretty meaningless
Bro what? That’s his opinion from the movie and also he was just trying to make you feel better about yourself as well. Just because you don’t like Christian’s doesn’t mean you should have something ruined for you because someone is.
I was on board but like Jesus jumpscare man, I’m a Christian too but like that was not relevant at all 😭
Being of no religion myself, its actually less nihilistic to think that we're all made up of the same stardust. To me, it makes me feel more connected to people, that when a person dies, they will return to the stars where we all will eventually join them. And while we're alive, we are still connected to those we lost through our own stardust. But it also makes us individuals, as every star is different and special
I liked this video but was a little put-off by the sudden veer into Christian elitism. "At least we have hope", is a pretty condescending thing to say to those whose lives do have meaning, born from themselves and not a god. Not everyone that isn't a Christian is a nihilist.
I was sure he meant in comparison to the sentiment of underlying nihilism he said was represented in Wish. I don't think he said that in reference to atheism.
My favorite Disney movie would be hunchback of Notre Dome. The thing is, as a kid, i saw the movie, and my mother got me the PC game, but i never owned the movie. Then my friend gave me access to Disney Plus, and i watched it for the first time in at least 15 years. I had completely forgotten about the villain song, but then watching it as an adult just made it hit harder for me, and it's honestly my 2nd favorite song from the whole movie.
The Hunchback of Notre Dame is a Masterpiece. I love God Help the Outcasts. Second favorite song in the movie.
"You're A Star = Nihilism" seems like the hottest take. Considering the fact that moments before the song, a MAGIC STAR came down from the sky, I can't help but be inclined to believe that the point is "we all have magic within us," as opposed to "we're all insignificant." This is first and foremost a Disney movie, after all.
A good take, honestly, but I was more examining it from the point of "what does literally being a star actually mean for you", simply because the song treats the characters being stars as pretty literal (the turtle's line about being nebulae in a nursery hits that point too) and that somehow that fact is supposed to answer all of life's questions. I can totally see it having the moral you mention, but if it's there, it's so hidden beneath horribly written lyrics that suggest something more literal. I get what you're saying though ;)
@@opinionatedbacon honestly it doesn't help that the song that's supposed to explain everything barely explains anything at all.
I can just see the stilt person crying in a corner 😂
I saw him, he's not okay
I think the songs were rushed julia michaels was only given 3 weeks to write this wish with very little context of the plot of the movie the story wasn't finished yet and these songs were probably written early in the production because of the higher ups micromanaged the entire development of wish
I feel so bad for Julia Michaels honestly. Disney really did her dirty
@@avengirl6479 nit disney the higher upside ruining disney pixar marvel and star wars as a whole
Good video, but I think this nihilistic reading of "I'm a star" is really far-fetched. Don't get me wrong, the song is AWFUL, but I just don't see where that expanded reading at 16:35 comes from.
I don't really see that in the song... I think "you're a star" is meant to be a way of saying "you're awesome"... It's a very hacky and played out way of saying that, but I don't see any nihilism.
In fact, this "you're nothing but stardust or cosmic accident... so there is no meaning" is something I hear very rarely... and when I do hear it, it's usually from religious people presenting that as the alternative to their religion. Even people who would say something on that "you're stardust" note and connect it to the meaning of life (which is not necessary; you can just recognise the fact that the matter that makes you was stardust billions of years ago, and think it does not imply anything about meaning) would probably find meaning in the very thought that their existence is extremely unlikely while being kind and understanding to others because they recognise that others are in the same situation. So, even if we make that thought existential, it's still not automatically nihilistic.
No joke this is literally how i tried to stick myself to the church cuz in my mind it was like
Theres either god or theres nothing so i prefer to be unhappy all my life with the promise of paradise instead of.embracing myself and doing my best to have a good life
As someone who got out of church this feels so far fetched
Atheism is not oh we are nothing and we are gonna die (except when its nihilism
Its more like oh theres no god so i should be able to do what i want as long as i dont hurt anyone and i shouldnt let family be the only thing that defines who you are
honestly, that whole bit threw me a bit out of loop. I didn't know there would be a major religious reading into these songs, which i don't mind, (The first part about the snake I didn't mind, it was a fun idea) people can have their own interpetations. However that pic at 17:39 I dunno, it felt pretty tasteless to me. Like wtf was that thing in the corner *evil scolding voice* "You'd be happier if you were gay". Lol what the hell does that have to do with anything (i really really hoped it was just a joke, but I don't think it is)
@@kapoopy2856 Yeah, I agree with what you said. I didn't focus on 17:39 in my comment since that moment felt to me like a very minor part of the video and it is possible that the whole image was just taken for somewhere and meant to be a joke/meme to some extent. But yeah, most of these things I haven't really heard and just find confusing, especially the "gay" one (well, that and the "color" one, which I'm not even completely sure whether it's talking about race because of how awkwardly it's phrased)... I think I'm just gonna take that statement as if 'gay' was used as a synonym for 'happy'. That's how it can actually make sense, even if it's as trivial as "you don't need to pay rent when you're living for free".
Save your energy, the creator of this video just wanted to evangelize and buried it under the cover of a critique of the big movie. Christian apologetics like this video creator's doesn't have to actually follow logic or even be true because it only attacks a strawman of their own creation, rather than engaging in good faith with the real beliefs of those who disagree with them.
@@kapoopy2856I thought he was making some good points but he totally lost me there. The “false happiness” image was so tone deaf 😭
I agree with so many of your points, but to say that "we are stardust" is nihilistic is so laughably wrong. The point of the song is that all living things are connected, that we're all made of the same stuff (stardust) and that's meant to explain why we feel so connected to the stars. The song is stupid in a lot of other ways, but it's far from being nihilism, and you can't just throw that label on anything that doesn't align perfectly with your views. Acknowledging that we're all made of the same stuff isnt inherently a nihilistic idea, and they didn't even elude to the implications that fact would have on the meaning of life. If anything, it comes across as naive and overly optimistic. The song insinuates that you're ✨SPECIAL✨ because ✨ yOu'Re A sTaR! ✨ and because of that, I would argue that "we are stardust" is quite the opposite of nihilism. Could you take the message of the song and come to a nihilistic conclusion about it? Absolutely, but you can do that with anything that tries to insinuate that everyone is special, because if everyone in the world is special, nobody really is. That doesn't mean that anything with the message of "you're all special!" is inherently nihilistic. It's a well-meaning but misguided attempt to make people feel good about themselves, and that's all it'll ever be.
As someone that is admittedly pretty nihilistic in my personal views, that song reeks to me of a delusional and conpletely unfounded optimism that you will never see from a nihilist. As far as I see it, the idea that you're all special because you're made of starfust is far more similar to your belief that you're special because you were handcrafted in the image of god. Both ideologies center around the thought that everyone is special because you're all connected by a shared origin, whereas nihilism is the belief that nothing and nobody is special, that life is meaningless and there's no point to anything because nothing matters in the grand scheme of things. You can't take a song that was intended to make people believe that they are special and powerful and that their life matters (even if it was admittedly bad at getting that point across) and genuinely tell me that they were being nihilistic
Ngl, the "I'm a star" analysis was such a jump that i smashed my skull into a wall. I believe the whole point of the song was to be "we're all cabale of making our wishes come true because we're all special." So I'm actually baffled how you made the jump to Nihilism.
i feel like disney just forgot how color theory works i swear 80% of this movie is grey
Star is the only one with great color
This video was pretty fun until you started with the weird christian analogies... I don't know, i guess maybe i wasn't expecting it? I don't know, it felt a little too stretched...
Lol, same. I felt like I was interrupting something. I'm here to make fun of a low quality movie, not be forced into a weirdo preach session. I'm blocking this guy, lmao.
@@fieldofdandelions1508 lol people have different faiths it's really not like that's the entire focus of the video either
@@fieldofdandelions1508 Blocking someone because they shared their beliefs, and not yours? Beautiful. Sounds like you have an unhealthy moral structure.
@@ECSOrder66 You can block someone for any reason at any time. I don't want to be preached at either when all I did was click on a video to make fun of a bad movie. It's not some moral failing to not want to be preached at randomly, especially since we've all heard the same Christian rhetoric a thousand times over
@@Violets_and_Madness And that's where you're objectively wrong. If you block someone because they don't share the exact same beliefs, that's a testament to your unwillingness to hear them out, rather than it is an issue on their part.
Side note: We've not all heard the Word. I've talked with people the other day in my local center who's never even heard of the idea that we have a Saviour who died for us. So that just proves you are ignorant of how many people need to hear this, but you don't want them to because YOU'VE already heard it. It's not for you, it's for those who have never heard about it. It's entirely on you if you feel like you DESERVE to block someone over different beliefs, simply because YOU didn't want to hear it, and speaks to your failed morals through blatant selfishness.
This isn't even the songwriters fault, Julia Michaels was literally given a description of the movie and a 3 week deadline. Which is so confusing to me since songwriters are usually involved in the entire movie process. Like look at Alan Menken and Lin Manuel Miranda both were heavily involved throughout the entire movie process. Hell in Encanto Lin Manuel Miranda even changed Bruno's original name Oscar to Bruno solely for the song We Don't Talk About Bruno for the line Bruno no no. It's not even the fact that Julia Michael's is a pop song artist since we know that pop songs can work in a Disney movie from Phil Collins songs in Tarzan
I totally agree. From what I know about Julia Michaels she's an amazing songwriter. This soundtrack really doesn't feel like the quality she usually writes, and I totally don't blame her "knowing what I know now".
"as a christian" dude, stop putting your religion into everything, that is not why this movie is bad XD
He’s also transphobic and homophobic
Okay, but as someone who is not religious but has been around christianity, i really don't see it as a genesis parallel.
The story in genesis is the "why is the world" and "what makes humans different" that you see in pretty much every religion. It's that the gods fear Man and them having a higher knowledge that only the gods should have must be punished. In genesis, it's the knowledge of good and evil, and god at that moment says if they take from the tree of life they'd "become as us, gods" so they have to be punished. I think it was the greek mythos that had humans obtaining fire. Heck, in moana, maui stole from a god to give to the humans and was punished for it.
In wish, asha didn't understand consequences from a rational viewpoint. To her, her grandfather who was 100 years old deserved to have his wish granted. But he's 100 years old. Why would his wish be granted at that point? Magnifico made the kingdom, so unless he's much, *much* older than implied, the kingdom hadn't been around for more than a generation and her grandfather had (assuming a generation is 20 years, he was part of the founding, and 1 wish was granted a month from the founding), he'd have had 240 opportunities to have his wish granted. The wishes we are told were granted in the beginning song are stupid (ie, have long hair), but with the founding of a city you'd want to grant useful wishes first, like for a great tailor and blacksmith and baker before long hair. Her grandfather would have been 80(ish) at the founding of the city and his wish was not immediately useful and was in fact easily able to be something bad because it _was_ vague. Everyone we saw that had a wish granted was working age and had a lot of years left to use their gifts.
So that's one thing. The other is that, the moment she's told his wish would not come true, she pivoted immediately to "he's evil" and wanted to have everyone have their wishes, regardless of how useful or even good (as opposed to evil) they are. Her friend that wished to be a knight proved that his wish was not the best since his desire for the title overshadowed his loyalty to his friends and his own ideals. He got the armor, but i don't think he got any training or anything else; just the title and looks. If someone wished to be king, what would happen when that wish is granted?
Nobody thinks of the consequences and that's pretty much it. Magnifico is the only one i agree with and they had to make him twist himself into knots and be taken over by evil magic in order for him to be the villain.
God didn’t prevent Adam and Eve from the tree of life because he was scared that they’d be gods. They were already as close as possible to being like him in their original state. After they ate the fruit, they brought sin and death on themselves. Death isn’t just losing the body, it’s also the separation of the soul from God. Had they also eaten from the tree of life, they and the rest of humanity would be trapped in that fallen state eternally alive with no escape. He prevented us from a living hell that would start upon birth with an increasingly degrading world that would never be rid of the worst of us because they’d never die either. You consider that evil?
The concept of "You're a Star" is supposed to mean all people come from a common source of "stardom," therefore they are intrinsically connected. Not a completely terrible concept for universe lore, but communicated in the worst way possible and not expanded upon AT ALL.
I disagree with you that it's immoral to promote alternate philosophy and on the quality of Orion and the Dark.
I legit feel like "you're a star" in this sense was meant to be a pep talk, like "rock star" or "superstar". I think it was supposed to be metaphorically encouraging Asha by saying that everyone is special in their own way, but that message was just delivered terribly that it sounds like they're just talking about literal stars, which, yeah, maybe not a good idea
yeah exactly, and the "we are our own origin story" line makes it seem even MORE like the song is actually supposed to answer those questions :.)
That's the thing, it's so vague you have no idea what it's actually supposed to be talking about😭and without the context of the movie, you just have to assume(even WITH the context, still unnecessarily incredibly hard to understand lol) if you want to see a much better song then search up "wubbzy you're a star", its from a kids show but at least you actually know what the point is!!
@@tabitharust304 yeah I think "You're a Star" is so meaningless it can pretty much mean whatever you THINK it means. I took its meaninglessness to mean that its meaning is meaninglessness, but I can see why someone else would have a different interpretation simply because it's so horribly written :.)
@@opinionatedbaconI thought Your a Star is pretty cringy like it was the only song in the movie that I covered my ears and hoping for it to end. I think part of it is the talking animals that come out of nowhere and somehow know everything about stars.
You know what really annoys me? The fact that Asha's braids are always over her shoulder. They're never just behind her.
I always thought it’d look nicer if she had braids behind her with a few braids over her shoulder. It’d stay mostly true to the design while still looking good.
They coulda have said "watch out world here we are" but no.
W A T C H O U T W O R L D H E R E I A R E
Me at 3am rewriting At All Costs
eehhh got preachy. i guess this is a religious channel? good video up until then. (around 17 minutes) wish you all the best, of course, though. just a bit awkward to be telling me i'm made in god's image and stuff when you don't know me or my beliefs or the gods i worship.
Hahaha yesssss, I totally felt the same. I loved the video until the religious part. I had to stop the video and laugh for a bit
Had me up until the transphobia, homophobia, and overall disrespect to other religions.
Just because someone is aware of science, or expresses themselves differently, or believes in a different afterlife, doesn’t mean they think life is meaningless?? Like, what??? Where did you draw that conclusion?? You were here to talk about songs from a Disney movie, what does this have to do with anything?
This is coming from a Christian, by the way.
I don't think this is coming from a Christian. Christians do not support homosexuality or transgenderism as they know it is a sinful lifestyle and choice. And if you were a Christian, you'd know you can't be disrespcting something that doesn't exist. And as the Bible says, there is no truth but God. Anything that is not of God is not of the truth. The false religions are not being disrespected, they're being called out on BEING false religions.
Had to dip after 17:38 because of how badly it turned me off this whole vid, but I had to return because I just can't leave alone the fact how odd and disconcerting this image is along with the overall overt Christian messaging in this entire video.
Apart from this single image just being the stock-standard fearmongering over people "turning" kids gay and trans by simply being more open and accepting of the LGBT+ community, the sudden bombardment of Bible verses beforehand left a bad taste in my mouth, especially when there was hardly any of that prior to this point. Coupled with the preaching about "morality" (that we all know specifically means Christian morality in this case) and kids being "'attacked' on all sides" just gave me super off vibes about this whole video. You were making some genuinely valid critiques about the songs already, breaking down the individual structures and lyrics; I'm really not sure why you decided to suddenly interject with a Sunday school lesson. Frankly, the whole "I'm a Star" section of this video is just a gigantic reach that's looking for something that really just isn't there. Is the song bad? Oh, yes, definitely; it's absolutely atrocious. But it has *nothing* to do with it supposedly being nihilistic or telling kids that life is meaningless and that nothing you do matters or whatever.
I initially didn't think too much of this review being viewed through a Christian lenses; Biblical interpretations of media are nothing new, and I actually found the idea of Asha and Magnifico being viewed as the snake and Eve respectively from the story of Adam and Eve kind of interesting. My issue is when this review started to feel less like a critical analysis on why Wish's song lyrics don't work on a fundamental level and more like a church sermon from a preacher on the side of the road. My nail in the coffin was when the homophobia and transphobia were snuck in with that tasteless image to try and drive what was an already baseless point home.
could not continue the video after that, 😶 talk about shoving stuff in peoples face
Legit a jumpscare 😭
Thank you so much for mentioning Rasputin, a pure evil villain
Also in a previous draft, both the king and queen were going to be evil, making the first Disney villain couple. That would have been so fun to have an evil couple who are madly in love.
Like blades of glory
@@devinskoglund6320 kind of, but in blades of glory, they were brother and sister.
@@KaeMcSpadden they still kissed at the end
@@devinskoglund6320 yeah, because the actors who played them were husband and wife at the time, but they were playing a brother and sister pair. So the characters are incestuous
@@KaeMcSpadden I know
Hey bro, just wanted to say, im christian as well and i like your references to the bible but i recommend gou should also say something like: "even if youre not christian" and then explain from a non Christian standpoint, not exactly another religion, nor atheist, but more like a general way of saying God.
12:26 again, no. She only goes to get back her grandfather’s and mother’s wishes.
The parallel with Eden’s garden doesn’t hold on when you consider that Magnifico is no god, he is a man. He may have a god complex, but the fact that he is a human makes it so that he is himself tempted by darkness.
Again, Asha comes to free the wishes only after Magnifico turns evil BY HIMSELF. Magnifico could just have let Asha and her family go away with their wishes back and still keep everyone else’s wishes safe. This would have been a good compromise. But he didn’t because he turned to this magical book by himself once everyone started questioning him.
My point is Asha isn’t the one responsible for the king’s descent into madness.
I agree that the “magnifico is God” thing doesn’t really hold up, especially since Magnifico is just a man who makes mistakes and has failings. I still like the parallel of Asha and the snake, but saying Magnifico is God just gives me the ick.
What’s up with the homophobia and transphobia in that speech bubble part?
@@rolyatinsonia you mean... common sense? Weird.
@@ECSOrder66 boo loser👎 😘
Go pray to be a better person please x
@@rolyatinsonia I think that's for you to do. I know my God is the truth, and what he deemed as morality. I'm not a loser, I'm one of the only people you'll ever know who wants the best for you. You need to understand that homosexuality and transgenderism is a sin. It's an abomination of twisting God's great design into something it isn't.
I'm not going to take sass from someone who accepts delusion as the norm, and can't be bothered to have a civil conversation with anyone who isn't in their echo chamber.
Go pray to be a better person, please. God loves you!
ok no that's not common sense, in fact, it makes NO SENSE at all.
@@v3x4tious You're right, LGBT makes no sense.
What fascinates me is positive nihilism, actually. I don't believe there's a higher meaning or plan to life, but that doesn't mean I don't have purpose. It just means it's up to each of us to decide what our lives mean for ourselves. Which makes "You're a star!" even LESS meaningful. It's almost as if the song doesn't WANT me to be able to decide what being a star means. I'm just supposed to stop thinking about it there. I honestly think that's the worst song in the movie for being so pointless, so irrelevant, and so lyrically bad.
I don't think you're a star is nihilistic. Preachy and unhelpful, certainly, but not nihilistic. But on the subject, what's more nihilistic, thinking life came about through random chance, or needing an outside source to give your life meaning?
The answer is: The idea that life came about through random chance. I don't think you know what nihilism is.
It's basically: "You mean nothing, so do whatever you want"
Christianity is a polar opposite: "You mean so much that I sent my Son who died to save you, and I gave you a plan for your life."
@@ECSOrder66 life not being created doesn't prevent it from having meaning, it just means you get to choose what that meaning is. And personally, that sounds a lot more appealing than being told your life only has value because someone else said so.
@@alexjewett7455 Then you're into nihilism, simple as that. You claimed that the idea of God deciding for you is nihilist, but that is the exact OPPOSITE of nihilism.
@@ECSOrder66 if that's the definition you want to work with, then sure, I'm a nihilist. But is that really a bad thing? What wrong with wanting to decide your own destiny, instead of letting the universe's deadbeat dad tell you what it is?
@alexjewett7455 Deadbeat dad? He's still there. Always watching. And you still do decide your own destiny. You either go to Heaven or Hell. And that's YOUR choice.
Nihilism is different though, and far more dangerous. It deals with the idea that if life is meaningless, you can do whatever you want, whatever you decide for yourself. (Legally, of course), which means that morality is irrelevant. For many, that means they've chosen to go to Hell. As they subscribe to the false belief that we don't need morals, and therefore will lead yourself to the only place in all of existence without any sense of morality.
To clarify what morality is, it's the objective concept of good and evil. We can't define morality from a subjective point of view. What it is is what it is. If you do not follow moral objective standards, you are not worthy of Heaven. That's the choice YOU make.
Nihilism is about rejecting the idea of God, and thus dooming yourself to forever being without Him. There IS no in-between. No tunnel you enter where God is like: "Hmm... so you were a terrible person before you died. Wanna try again?" Nope. Once you die, that's it. No trying again. No other chances. That's the end. What's the end? That's up to you. Is the end darkness and suffering, or light and happiness? Your choice.
Christianity subscribes to the idea that life has meaning because we have someone who cares for us even if no one else does. Who cares for us SO much that He died for us. And wants us to be His.
Christianity jumpscare
omfg same i clicked off genuienly got annoyed lmfao. You should get this google extenstion I use to permanently block youtubers
right dude like its not hard to leave your personal religion out of your videos😭😭 i was all for it and loved this until that! like what it gotta do with how bad the movie is lmao
exactly, i came for a objective look at wish's songs, not personal beliefs
would've been better if he just described the video as a Christian interpretation in the title. Because an objective analysis of the lyrics suddenly turning into "the movie is bad because some songs teach children to reject God" was certainly something
It was ok
What everyone misses is that Asha only wants to get back the wish of her grandfather, and the wish of her mother once Magnifico told her he wouldn’t grant hers either. That was all she wanted, not give back everyone’s wishes. She only comes back to free everyone’s wishes after Magnifico takes away her mother’s wish. And she isn’t wrong to think about that : what’s the point of living here for free if they can’t leave for another land ?
I don’t think im a star was supposed to be nihilistic. Mostly because Disney was only thinking about how much money Wish would make them instead actually trying to make something with any real meaning
I was loving your video until you started with the evangelizing, which I wouldn't have minded so much if you hadn't used that to jump on how not believing in God means that life has no meaning. Yes, we're stardust, and we don't have a cosmic reason for being here, but it doesn't matter because we decide what life means. Just because we don't believe in God doesn't mean that we don't think life has meaning and that we're just waiting around to die. I couldn't even finish your video, which is a shame because I was really enjoying it for about seventeen minutes.
i feel like 'you're more because god says so' is also a weird moral tbh
It's moreso that God created us with the reason being that he's given us a purpose and a reason to live.
Without God, we are nothing. And I mean that literally. We would not exist without a Creator. So you take away the Creator, you take away us.
@@ECSOrder66 there is no creator. we evolved.
@mossyrocks3967 No proof of that has been discovered, hence why evolution is called a "theory", which as defined is observable evidence not yet proven. Sure, people have valid reason to believe it is what happened to us, but nothing PROVES without a doubt that IS how it happened.
Uhm, I agree that this movie sucks but I don't think the Christian part was necessary...
Agreed
was on board with bro until that part
Felt a little awkward when he started preaching lmao. Like I agree that the nihilism of Orion and Wish is bad but the opposite of that isn't Christianity?
Same it caught me off guard
People add in their own beliefs all the time. As a Christian, I hear plenty of New Age or atheistic or secular beliefs when someone discusses media and it hits me just like a talk about Christianity hits you. If you believe in people having an equal voice, then it doesn’t make sense to ask a Christian to de-Christianize themselves for your comfort.
I was with you until you started going religious- if there's nothing after this, then that makes life all the more precious imho 🤷♂️
Right? I live with the hope that my actions will make life better for those who come after me. I’m going to spend my life doing positive things and enjoying my own life to its fullest. Sure, it’d be hella nice to poof into eternal paradise when I croak, but I’d rather that be a surprise reward than my only motivation to be a good person.
Religious propaganda jumpscare??????
I don't get how a indie animation show was 100x better than a multibillion dollar company's 100 year anniversary movie
The fact I'm not sure which one you mean speaks volumes.
Which one? There's tons of amazing indie shows
Underrated video, unlike Disney's Wish, i loved watching you
clown onto a bad kids movie. I wanted to watch it but i just felt it would be a waist of time xD
It's amazing how Hazbin Hotel completely destroyed Disney during their 100th anniversary by giving us the Disney soundtrack we always wanted.
THIS!!! “Hell is Forever” succeeded where “This is the Thanks I Get” failed. Adam, while also being painted as an arrogant jerk just like Magnifico, is still very obviously a threat when he sings about how much he enjoys extermination, and the shoe drop at the end where he reveals that the time until the next extermination was cut in half before roughly throwing Charlie out of the room. Magnifico’s song is just….a huge joke. The part where he is supposed to become this “huge threat” is obnoxiously shoehorned in before being brushed off again in a matter of seconds. And that’s just one example of how Hazbin outshines Wish in nearly every way possible
Hazbin is better in every way especially with its Music Characters and Animation
@@M00N_CH1LD My choice for a Hazbin song to compare to "This Is The Thanks I Get" is "Stayed Gone." Maybe that's just because I got into Hazbin because of a video comparing Stayed Gone to Thanks, but I feel like drawing that comparison brings a light to the problems with Thanks most easily. One: Intimidation factor. In Thanks, you don't feel intimidated because the music is too upbeat and peppy and the visuals are too well lit and welcoming. Now, upbeat villain songs CAN work, but only in certain situations where either the song itself is still Intimidating or fits the villain or situation (I.E. I Wanna Be Like You from The Jungle Book, Kitsch from Elisabeth, Killer Instinct from Bring It On). Thanks is none of these things. Stayed Gone, on the other hand, has Intimidating visuals and instrumentation, with Voxtech HQ being only illuminated by TV screens and LED strips running across sharks, and Alastor's radio tower being even darker, helped by his Intimidating character design, accompanied by booming notes and slower, more intense rhythms, while still having the fast, frantic majority of the song to show the rapid exchange of insults. Two: clever lyrics. I don't need to explain why the lyrics to Thanks are dumb. On the other hand, Stayed Gone is full of clever wordplay, plot revelations, creative lines, interesting rhyme schemes that could only work with the frantic pace, and character moments. Three: making sense. This one's self explanatory.
how I’d rewrite wish would be that the point of the story is that we all have the power to make our wishes become reality. I’d make magnifico truly evil by having him be a sort of metaphor for Ai and wanting to the easy way, Asha would represent those who are truly passionate in their craft and her grandpa would symbolize a dying art that’s slowly becoming lost. Plus the whole movie could be a metaphor about creating art and telling your story.
When Elemental is more of a 100th anniversary movie
Bro cant wait for another video hoping you do more long form videos such an underatted video 👍 love it ❤
Thanks a lot!!! Currently working on the next one, hopefully it'll be out before the end of the month ;)
I liked this review...until it just turned into bs christian rambling, i didn't click on a video about bad music to hear a Christian tell me why he hates non christian movies
That dismissiveness might be your problem there. Discrediting his beliefs as religious BS shows an ego. That you apparently have the CORRECT beliefs that aren't BS.
Well that’s a you problem, you don’t like hearing what a Christian thinks so you avoid anything that goes against your beliefs
started as a good video, turned into christian preaching camp... goodbye
Oh, I get it. If it's your beliefs, it's good, and if it isn't, it's bad.
Even tho many people as well as me don't believe in god, saying life is meaningless is very insensitive. It may be objective from some "scientific" point but as a creatures with complex emotions we have to go around it with EMOTIONAL INTELLIGENCE or it's not going to end well for anyone 🤔
Logically it can’t be meaningless. If it truly were then we shouldn’t have any notion of meaning nor should we be able to comprehend or debate it in the first place. You can’t create something out of nothing without any aid, including concepts. So creating meaning when it objectively doesn’t exist is like creating an entirely new hue for the visible light spectrum. A universe can’t be truly meaningless if its inhabitants can understand meaning.
@@Window4503Different definition of meaning(less).
0:03 I don't know that because ive never watched wish.. and yet im watching this videos anyways lol
i am cringing so much. Saying only god gives you purpose is just embarrassing. Listen i hate that song but your answer might just be worse
He does though?
Without a Creator, how would we be created? We exist, because He does.
I know im late, but I like the idea of nihilism. Well, part of it. Life is meaningless and nothing matters, BUT what you make of it. Believe what you want to, love who your heart wants, have fun, do nothing, do everything, in the end the only people who have to care is you. Your life is yours to do with it as you please. You are a colonial organism of billions of cells all working together to keep you alive as long as they can, built with software of atoms and chemistry that all originated from the heart of a long dead star. You are made from stardust. And I think thats beautiful.
I went to read about Nihilism in the middle of this video and it went quite deeper than I expected, but the main sentiment I got out of it (specifically from Nietzsche's philosophy on the matter) is that Nihilism being about the meaningless of everything is only right on the inherent level, and it is our perspectives that we cultivate our own morality and find the meanings of various things in life.
Nihilism is also posited as a problem, and what you described is more akin to your resolution to a problem, how you overcome it and carve out your own reasons to live. That to me is very beautiful.
The whole 2 hour read honestly isn't enough to do the topic justice, it is far more complex than I expected but I am nonetheless happy to understand something I only had a bit of knowledge about.
the homophobia was a really weird choice. you can be christian without being hateful-in fact, it’s unchristian to be hateful
I finished the video but I didn't catch that part. Can you explain it to me? He didn't really say anything about gay people in Strange World. But he said he wanted the message to be more subtle and not in your face and stated that in comparison to other recent Disney films.
@@lovelysartstudio829917:39
the speech bubbles
@@lovelysartstudio8299 look at the graphic at 17:38 and read what the word bubbles say. "you'd be happier if you were gay" and "the only reason you feel uncomfortable is because you're the wrong gender" are both statements that imply that lgbt people are pressuring school children into being lgbt. if he didn't feel this way, he could have chosen any other graphic, or he could have not added one at all.
Or maybe he just didn’t quite read all the messages from the picture he showed from that other movie…
facts! like stfu a gay or trans person isn’t taking down your religion we have the right to exist.
As a Muslim, this film is SUPER immoral and nihilistic. There is meaning to why we exist and not just that YoU'rE a StAr! So I completely agree with you here.
As someone who doesn't really have a religion I still believe in some form of purpose. I don't know why kids media is becoming so nihilistic. If someone thinks life is meaningless then what's even the point of living?
@@KindleTheSkywing true, and why are they attacking kids of all people!?
@@usmann85 they're not "attacking" children just because they don't cater to your religion
@@sanzanderteio4392 we have a purpose and I'm not just saying that just because is doesn't cater to my religion.
@@usmann85they arent
The song is not even nihilistic its singing about how everyone is special and great
The song just sucks at it
Reading it as nihilism just sounds like trying to pick up a greater meaning of nothing
I love your channel and your videos, but I don’t understand what “I’m a star” has to do with nihilism or Orion on the Dark’s messages. It sounds like it’s trying to do the opposite of telling you that you’re meaningless (it’s still a bad song though7
Didn’t mean to put that 7 there
It sounds like it's saying "You're nothing, except what you make of yourself" which is a dangerous mindset. It means you can do anything you wish without worry, because it means nothing in the end. That mindset is exactly what leads people to Hell.
The other problem with the art and animation is the backgrounds have outlines, so it is hard to tell what the depth is and what is supposed to be close to us or far away.
This movie takes place around the same time as the Hunchback of Notre Dame. With that said, compare the two soundtracks and see HOW FAR GONE Disney has went.
Bro was doing so well and then god showed up
yeah, I knew that would rub some people wrong, but that song rubbed me even MORE wrong, so I had to discuss my thoughts in detail ;)
Because people who believe in God can’t express their thoughts with their own worldview? I find it weird that any time someone mentions God, people get upset even thought plenty of other videos are either fully agnostic or even anti-Christian. I watch channels of all sorts of views including ones that are snarky toward Christianity or religion in general, so seeing this sentiment feels like a double standard to me. He’s not even attacking atheism, just nihilism, which is a philosophy, according to his beliefs…just like every other creator.
@@Window4503 christianity has done a LOT of harm. so i think for a lot of people, religion in general is just something that rubs them the wrong way. ive known a lot of people who have some real bad feelings towards it because of their experiences. and its always felt annoying and hypocritical to me personally, though i recognize thats mainly because of how i grew up.
i dunno. its a complex subject and im not saying randomly attacking religious people is warranted, thats just my two cents on it. its like politics, i suppose. most people really dont like talking about it.
@@opinionatedbacon that's fair lol
Although personally I didn’t view the "you're a star" line as being nihilistic
@@opinionatedbaconI understand still have to say it feels like a reach as well
I'd bugs me how underdeveloped Asha actually is. She doesn't even get the baseline of "Making my family proud!" Or "Proving myself." It's just, "I've decided I disagree with the rules, so I'm going to break them despite how that will impact everyone else!" What a great and very moral message...
Also, I can't believe how many things they forgot about. Like they mention Magnifico had other apprentices... Uh, what happened to them? And though Asha's mother's wish is of huge importance, we NEVER find out what it was. It's like they drained the color and life from this film... literally.
yeah, the film falls apart if you think about anything for more than a second. Great job Disney, this is just what we wanted :.)
english is not even my first but the sentence writing is so painfully bad that even i notice it
Love your little Bible lesson man. Amen to that!!
"Isn't adam or eve... she is the snake" is one of the hardest lines i have heard in a while
I would never guessed that I would get a Wish Biblical analysis from a Bacon Guy
yeah probably not exactly how you expected to spend part of your Monday ;)
I wished I didn’t I was cringing so bad😂
Bruh, I just realized that King Magnifico is just a worse version of Chris Jericho from WWE
17:21 instantly became my favourite movie reviewing youtube channel. Nah favourite youtube channel nah BEST UA-camCHANNEL
8/10 movie it would be 0/10 without ripoff luma. These songs are not good.
Edit: Never mind watching this video made me remember how horrible this movie was. 1/10
15:44 I've noticed this too. Pretty sad. There are exceptions, media that still inspire a sense of hope and worth, but so many just embrace the darkness, to the point in which you can sense it and only hope that it subverts it. (Here's hoping deltarune rejects nihilism)
Also, Christian here, that segment of the video went hard. Great analysis!
9:12 is giving drake vibes 💀
It made me SO happy that you brought up In the Dark of the Night. When it comes to villains songs I feel like it isn't nearly as talked about as Disney's, despite being just as strong as theirs (actually stronger imo, it's honestly my favorite villain song of all time), so it was super cool that you used it as a main example during the segment for Magnifico's song!
Thanks! It's SUCH an underrated song
unrelated to the video but i like your bacon avatar, he looks very silly
May God bless you for delivering this important message for people❤ thank you
They should have used Encanto for their 100th Anniversary celebration😏
9:37 , You don’t even HAVE to give your wishes to the king. In Welcome to Rosas, Asha mentions that “you GET to give your wish in a ceremony”. So you’re not even forced. You can just arrive and live in a prosperous kingdom for FREE 😭
more specific about This Wish is it's not a hero's I want song but a villains given how it's thematically like Hellfire
the heroic I want songs of the past are of wants and desires that have been building for years. Ariel didn't suddenly start collecting human stuff that morning. Quasimodo didn't suddenly start wanting to be out among the people that one day of his whole life. Mulan didn't only just feel like wanting her exterior self to reflect her inner self. Belle didn't decide she suddenly wants adventure and more than a provincial life.
Asha's want is for Sabino's wish to be granted, sure. But This Wish isn't about that, it's about wanting more for the people of Rosas than being part of the kingdom system that they all agreed to be a part of willingly. A system which Asha was all in favour of, even working as the tour guide for visitors and helping convince them to give up their wishes to become Rosas citizens. Then she's told Sabino's wish won't be granted aka her want won't be granted and suddenly the system is bad evil bad and must be stopped. It becomes her driving force, to break the paradise and system in place everyone, even her, were totally happy with. It makes This Wish a villain I want song just like Hellfire, thematically not quality wise obviously
with Hellfire Frollo is dealing in his sudden lusts for Esmerelda, he didn't even know she existed before then but the feelings came upon him and he'll burn the whole city down to get her and make her his or kill her. Just like Asha, sudden I want emotion that destroys everything
I was so cool about this video and then got evangelized to wtf just happened (I believe in Jesus but wtf)
18:01 Why did I laugh so hard at this XD
‘Yes ladies I am single’ I want this on my wall
Wow mate aint any reasons to be bring relgion into this
That's his beliefs. You could do the bare minimum of letting people believe what they want without having to be upset about it.
Imagine his parellel was the Big Bang. Bet you wouldn't bat an eye. I think that's more a problem with your inability to accept that not everyone believes the same things you do, rather than the problem with the OP for having that different belief.
I know the long form videos take a while to make but they are always soooo good🫶🏻🫶🏻
Thank you so much!!
Out of all of the songs, Knowing What I Know Now is the best song. The visuals might be bad, but the lyrics and music aren't. I love this song with a passion
This video just cured my fear of pineapples!
What ! 😂
Bacon guy, I genuinely congratulate and appreciate you and your work! The way you easily flowed into speaking of the gospel was great! Keep doing what you’re doing 👍