I am not sure everyone realizes (I didn't at first) that air filters like the one on your CS-620PW can be split apart, which makes it easier to clean them with an air compressor (can blow them from inside out). I saw someone split one in half once, & the light bulb came on for my saw filters). I am constantly cleaning my chainsaws with an air compressor after each hard use. Works good for blowing out the loosen crud in the groove of the bar, too.
Very good information! While I haven't split this filter, I did make a practice of doing that on a Zenoah clone saw I had. Filtration was bad on that saw too. When split, I actually put a foam filter inside of it to help keep out the fines. I had totally forgotten about that. Thanks for the comment!
Last time I split my echo filters for cleaning, they never closed 100% again. There's no O ring or anything between the 2 sections where they mate up. If you have found a way to seal them, great but my attempt failed. Ended up chucking the worthless thing and buying a new one. I agree the echo filter set up is pretty mediocre. It's frustrating to have the highest concentration of dust accumulated in a blind spot that's inaccessible with the filter on but also drops crud right into the carb upon removal. Pull the choke before removing the filter.
I fully agree with you. Great saw but the filter is lacking. I just had mine ported and it screams. When I put the filter back together it seemed to go together well again. I have placed a large O-ring on the orange plastic where the filter seats and a small one on the bottom of the stud and another on the top of the stud.
Most echo air filters are washable. I use a pressure pump bottle with warm water and a few drops of baby soap. Let air dry and it works great. They last along time.
Echo saws are amazing. The Japanese build quality and reliability is in a class of its own compared to the European stuff. A true pro saw at a much cheaper price makes it all a win-win. Sure, the “big two” may be “hotter” saws and will cut through a log .75 seconds faster, but I’m not bringing a stopwatch with me when I’m cutting. And people bragging about Stihl and Husky weights…I’ve seen this saw on a scale and it’s within .9 lb of a ms400 and a 562xp
Really appreciate you stopping by and commenting! You are 100% correct about many of the things you said. On the 620 specifically it is a very capable and affordable saw in this class. There really is nothing that can compete with it. I find that, if I have a preference over it, it is simply due to feel and not due to operation and it’s capability. My 562 XP is very compact and extremely smooth. The only thing is is I do not trust it as much as I do the 620 P. Again thank you so much for commenting.!
Proper Saw Maintenance🤘 Used a O-ring on air filter and cut dust down a lot, purchased gearheads super seal kit and worth every penny. Husky air filter design is by far the best overall the brands. Compressed air is your friend for cleaning. Be careful some D176/D009 Oregon bars have teardrop oil hole, Recommend drilling them to bigger round size they have clogged up on me very easily on me. 🔥🪵
@zeromark202 Great info. So, at my last home I had a proper shop/barn with power. Right now unfortunately I haven't got myself a garage and eventually a shop built yet. I actually have like 75ft of extension cord running from a GFCI on the home to a shed I built to keep a minimum amount of tools on site along with light. Now, one of my issues is my air compressor will not run on the 15 amp GFCI with 75 foot of cheap cord laid out. I miss air always on hand. Thanks for the heads up on the old hole shape. Thank you for your continued support!
Good vid Oakie. I agree that you shouldn't have to buy an upgrade for your OEM air filter system but at the end of the day it's fines getting into your nice saw. Gearhead has an inexpensive fix to help keep the fines from getting past your OEM filter...
@@oakiewoodsman Gotcha - yes, o-rings and a "support washer" deal for the large o-ring. I haven't tried them yet - was hoping a UA-camr with a really nice cs620 would test drive the set-up to add some great content to his channel... haha
I c. 😉 I am a bit more inclined to get the red beard setup to also get rid of the flocked mesh/paper element setup. We will see though. Thanks as always for being here!
I put o rings, one in the filter and one on the stud, 1/16 thick with glue and like that better than the kit they sell. I gut the can, weld in 3/4 ID outlet pipe, CS 620 carb with 86578-1 jet, double dogs & roller chain catcher on longer bar studs, rim sprocket. They ain't nothin else on the market worth buying to me.
@Tim Funk You know what, I hope someone chimes in on this. I know my Husqvarna 545 you can. I am really not sure and I know new saws often are pretty dry in there. Thanks for the input!
Echo 590 required removal of clutch drum so suspect so does 620. My echo 4910 however can be greased through a hole in the center of crankshaft. Only clutch cover removal required. Probably applies to 501p too but can't confirm that for sure.
I have not. I don’t think it is too much of a thing out here. Kinda wanna try it sometime. Could help out here and there. Does it look like I cannot clear chips often?
@@oakiewoodsman they use it out west more than in the east. Since it has half the cutters, it has less drag and is better when cutting softwood that has more resin. I usually use full chisel and keep the leading edge sharp. I cut mostly hardwoods in the east and the shop I buy chain from doesn't keep in stock. I could buy online like most things these days but I support the locals.
@StoptheLie gotcha. Pretty much the same here. I heard of a shop about 50 minutes from me that actually will make loops and I believe they may have skip. I think they are an Echo Stihl Dealer
In hardwood, the skip chain has some uses. It's actually 2/3 the cutters of a regular chain, not half. So a 30 inch bars cuts as much wood as a 20 inch bar approximately. It's slower but in things like dry dead ash where the chips can collect really bad and wedge between the guide bar, it helps. It's like running the saw in a lower gear essentially.
I use a flat head screw driver and run it around. I just get a majority of the oily packed in dust out and move on. If I had air, I would blast it out. I have compressors, just don’t have the power to run it in the shed. Are you waxing the whole bar like the sides and everything? If you are trying to keep it clean, maybe Silicone spray would be a good option. Would dry but I would think pitch would have a rough time sticking. Thanks for watching another!
Yes, Im doing the whole bar, the idea being less resistance=better performance. Its shocking to me to see how some of these pro loggers treat these $1000+ machines. Keep up the great vids and thanks for the responce.
no, thank you! As far as how the pro loggers treat their stuff, I have found by talking to a few that they expect 1 season of hard use then the saw gets relegated to firewood duty or being a truck saw or something. They use em hard and then buy new when the latest and greatest is out. Think about an auto mechanic. They have 10s of Thousands and sometimes more in Tool Truck tools. I cannot wrap my head around that but convenience, write offs and reliability are key for them. @@lonnieholbert8898
The Echo CS-680P (OEM A226000070 Air Filter) & Echo CS-7310P (OEM A226002370 Air Filter) have superior air filters, but it's a shame they are not even the same one for those two saws. Even the CS-501P (OEM A226001090) & CS-620P (OEM P021016372) don't use the same crappy style air filter. I wish Echo air filters were all set up the same, but like the CS-680P or CS-7310P. They both seem quite superior!
This is an area that needs to be improved for sure. Would be cool if they maybe did a revision like Husqvarna did on their 550 and 562xp saws I believe. Their filters were bad initially as well but they eventually got a good setup on them.
I am not sure everyone realizes (I didn't at first) that air filters like the one on your CS-620PW can be split apart, which makes it easier to clean them with an air compressor (can blow them from inside out). I saw someone split one in half once, & the light bulb came on for my saw filters). I am constantly cleaning my chainsaws with an air compressor after each hard use. Works good for blowing out the loosen crud in the groove of the bar, too.
Very good information! While I haven't split this filter, I did make a practice of doing that on a Zenoah clone saw I had. Filtration was bad on that saw too. When split, I actually put a foam filter inside of it to help keep out the fines. I had totally forgotten about that. Thanks for the comment!
Hey, I just wanted you to know that the last time I washed my filter I did indeed split it apart. Thanks for the heads up!
Last time I split my echo filters for cleaning, they never closed 100% again. There's no O ring or anything between the 2 sections where they mate up. If you have found a way to seal them, great but my attempt failed. Ended up chucking the worthless thing and buying a new one. I agree the echo filter set up is pretty mediocre. It's frustrating to have the highest concentration of dust accumulated in a blind spot that's inaccessible with the filter on but also drops crud right into the carb upon removal. Pull the choke before removing the filter.
I fully agree with you. Great saw but the filter is lacking. I just had mine ported and it screams. When I put the filter back together it seemed to go together well again. I have placed a large O-ring on the orange plastic where the filter seats and a small one on the bottom of the stud and another on the top of the stud.
Most echo air filters are washable. I use a pressure pump bottle with warm water and a few drops of baby soap. Let air dry and it works great. They last along time.
Love these shop videos, don’t have to have a edited master piece for a video. Let’s see a close up shop video of all your newer saws.
Will do man!
Echo saws are amazing. The Japanese build quality and reliability is in a class of its own compared to the European stuff. A true pro saw at a much cheaper price makes it all a win-win. Sure, the “big two” may be “hotter” saws and will cut through a log .75 seconds faster, but I’m not bringing a stopwatch with me when I’m cutting. And people bragging about Stihl and Husky weights…I’ve seen this saw on a scale and it’s within .9 lb of a ms400 and a 562xp
Really appreciate you stopping by and commenting! You are 100% correct about many of the things you said. On the 620 specifically it is a very capable and affordable saw in this class. There really is nothing that can compete with it. I find that, if I have a preference over it, it is simply due to feel and not due to operation and it’s capability. My 562 XP is very compact and extremely smooth. The only thing is is I do not trust it as much as I do the 620 P. Again thank you so much for commenting.!
You should invest in a light bar . Would balance your saw out alot better. Good video
Agreed!
Proper Saw Maintenance🤘
Used a O-ring on air filter and cut dust down a lot, purchased gearheads super seal kit and worth every penny. Husky air filter design is by far the best overall the brands. Compressed air is your friend for cleaning. Be careful some D176/D009 Oregon bars have teardrop oil hole, Recommend drilling them to bigger round size they have clogged up on me very easily on me.
🔥🪵
@zeromark202 Great info. So, at my last home I had a proper shop/barn with power. Right now unfortunately I haven't got myself a garage and eventually a shop built yet. I actually have like 75ft of extension cord running from a GFCI on the home to a shed I built to keep a minimum amount of tools on site along with light. Now, one of my issues is my air compressor will not run on the 15 amp GFCI with 75 foot of cheap cord laid out. I miss air always on hand. Thanks for the heads up on the old hole shape. Thank you for your continued support!
@@oakiewoodsman understand that with the electric, had to get a pancake to be easy to move. Your welcome, awesome channel content
Good vid Oakie. I agree that you shouldn't have to buy an upgrade for your OEM air filter system but at the end of the day it's fines getting into your nice saw. Gearhead has an inexpensive fix to help keep the fines from getting past your OEM filter...
O rings?
@@oakiewoodsman you don't think they'd seal up around the opening & keep the fines from getting in?
I was asking if they were Orings. Have you had good luck?
@@oakiewoodsman Gotcha - yes, o-rings and a "support washer" deal for the large o-ring. I haven't tried them yet - was hoping a UA-camr with a really nice cs620 would test drive the set-up to add some great content to his channel... haha
I c. 😉 I am a bit more inclined to get the red beard setup to also get rid of the flocked mesh/paper element setup. We will see though. Thanks as always for being here!
I wish there was a good aftermarket air filter for Echo cs 590 with high top cover like the Husqvarna
honestly, now that I have put the orings from HF in there, all is well! Thanks for watching!
I put o rings, one in the filter and one on the stud, 1/16 thick with glue and like that better than the kit they sell. I gut the can, weld in 3/4 ID outlet pipe, CS 620 carb with 86578-1 jet, double dogs & roller chain catcher on longer bar studs, rim sprocket. They ain't nothin else on the market worth buying to me.
awesome information. Thank you for sharing!
Great video
Hopefully it helps someone out. Thanks for being here!
Can you grease your needle bearing from end of crankshaft on an echo. Don’t forget to grease it
@Tim Funk You know what, I hope someone chimes in on this. I know my Husqvarna 545 you can. I am really not sure and I know new saws often are pretty dry in there. Thanks for the input!
Echo 590 required removal of clutch drum so suspect so does 620. My echo 4910 however can be greased through a hole in the center of crankshaft. Only clutch cover removal required. Probably applies to 501p too but can't confirm that for sure.
Have you ever used skip chain on your longer bars?
I have not. I don’t think it is too much of a thing out here. Kinda wanna try it sometime. Could help out here and there. Does it look like I cannot clear chips often?
@@oakiewoodsman they use it out west more than in the east. Since it has half the cutters, it has less drag and is better when cutting softwood that has more resin. I usually use full chisel and keep the leading edge sharp. I cut mostly hardwoods in the east and the shop I buy chain from doesn't keep in stock. I could buy online like most things these days but I support the locals.
@StoptheLie gotcha. Pretty much the same here. I heard of a shop about 50 minutes from me that actually will make loops and I believe they may have skip. I think they are an Echo Stihl Dealer
In hardwood, the skip chain has some uses. It's actually 2/3 the cutters of a regular chain, not half. So a 30 inch bars cuts as much wood as a 20 inch bar approximately. It's slower but in things like dry dead ash where the chips can collect really bad and wedge between the guide bar, it helps. It's like running the saw in a lower gear essentially.
Do you clean out your channels as well? I like a zip tie for this. Im also experamenting with waxing my bar.
I use a flat head screw driver and run it around. I just get a majority of the oily packed in dust out and move on. If I had air, I would blast it out. I have compressors, just don’t have the power to run it in the shed. Are you waxing the whole bar like the sides and everything? If you are trying to keep it clean, maybe Silicone spray would be a good option. Would dry but I would think pitch would have a rough time sticking. Thanks for watching another!
Yes, Im doing the whole bar, the idea being less resistance=better performance. Its shocking to me to see how some of these pro loggers treat these $1000+ machines. Keep up the great vids and thanks for the responce.
no, thank you! As far as how the pro loggers treat their stuff, I have found by talking to a few that they expect 1 season of hard use then the saw gets relegated to firewood duty or being a truck saw or something. They use em hard and then buy new when the latest and greatest is out. Think about an auto mechanic. They have 10s of Thousands and sometimes more in Tool Truck tools. I cannot wrap my head around that but convenience, write offs and reliability are key for them. @@lonnieholbert8898
Yes husqvarna has the best design on air filters, even Stihl needs some work.
Yes! This new 660 Clone had that proflow filter with that super sticky filter oil. Should work really well!
Sweet mine just has the regular filter not that good imo
The Echo CS-680P (OEM A226000070 Air Filter) & Echo CS-7310P (OEM A226002370 Air Filter) have superior air filters, but it's a shame they are not even the same one for those two saws. Even the CS-501P (OEM A226001090) & CS-620P (OEM P021016372) don't use the same crappy style air filter. I wish Echo air filters were all set up the same, but like the CS-680P or CS-7310P. They both seem quite superior!
This is an area that needs to be improved for sure. Would be cool if they maybe did a revision like Husqvarna did on their 550 and 562xp saws I believe. Their filters were bad initially as well but they eventually got a good setup on them.
@@oakiewoodsman The CS-7310P air filter looks impressive, & owners state it is. I wish their CS-501P & CS-620P had the same one.
Yes! When I saw it at the dealer it was top notch.