Cirrus SF50 - Max Altitude FL310 IFR To Scotland | Flight Vlog
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- We depart Gloucester in the Cirrus SF50 Vision Jet climbing to its highest operating altitude of FL310 flying through icing conditions on the way. The SF50 performs really well at altitude especially as we were only 500lbs below maximum take-off weight! Please do like and comment your thoughts - it really helps!
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I’m a controller for part of the airspace you flew through and saw an SF50 on its way down to the Channel Islands today while at work. Didn’t know what it was so a quick search later I arrived here! Great video, lovely aircraft!
Every time I see a thumbnail showing a cockpit, I'm already expecting the Flight Simulator instead reality
Hahahha but reality this time!
I don't exactly know why... but I just love the SF50... such a sleek, intuitive aircraft.
It sure is!
It's like a flying supersport car, so cool.
As a non pilot with just a bit of sim time, these are really interesting videos showing the interaction with atc and adapting your fpl. The discussion between the two of you is also very helpful to explain your thinking. Also love the sf50
Great video, Ben. It's a quirky looking thing, the Vision. Avionics are really cutting edge, I love the Garmin functionality. I am used to the NXi but all of the Garmin translate across quite seamlessly, I think.
I am not normally a fan of smaller jets (prefer turboprops like the TBM) but this is something I'd like to fly, it seems very intuitive and perfectly set up for even single pilot IFR.
310,thats low for a jet.
I had a MEIR 5k hrs but zero time with an autopilot…….nothing but poling and no glass cockpit either.
It was the 60s/70s though and things are a bit different now ))
Did they Land safely though ? Didnt see the touchdown part 😅
Interesting to see the differences between flying in the US and Uk. Im interested why you have to get a clearance on the ground, ask for services on check in with a new controller, and then get an airways clearance instead of just one clearance on the ground. Thanks for showing us how you guys do it.
Because of the way the airspace system works, in short. Unlike the US, where class G only extends up to 700-1200ft almost everywhere, there are large areas of the UK where class G extends all the way up to FL195. Gloucester exists in one of those areas, and because it's so far away from the airways you cannot just be cleared straight onto the airways. Instead, you're essentially cleared IFR to the controlled airspace boundary, hence the "remain outside." At airports inside controlled airspace or very close to controlled airspace, this isn't required, and you get your airways clearance off the ground.
Another factor is that because it's class G, and uncontrolled, you cannot be given a normal ATC service. Therefore, the UK has a "suite" of services available to aircraft operating in class G, depending on the needs. You can see that Ben first requested a basic service with Gloucester, because they are non radar, and a radar-derived traffic service with Swanwick Mil, who have the use of Radar. Swanwick then coordinate with London to get an airways joining clearance, which then quasi-clears the aircraft to their destination via the planned route or an alternate specified routing.
So, the first call with Gloucester is an IFR "clearance" to the boundary of controlled airspace, then you request your enroute service outside of controlled airspace, and then you'll be given your airways clearance. At the fundamental level, that is how the airspace system in the UK functions.
The graphics are amazing. Well done Microsoft !
🤣🤣😂😂👍👍👍
I fly this plane on X-Plane 12 and it is a great way to learn the actual numbers for this plane. Thank you for this video. Just living my fantasies on the PC.
This video would have been so much more helpful if the sound of ATC didn't drowned out the sound of the pilot's voice. He was sharing some valuable information, and I couldn't hear him.
Wow. The biggest airplane I have flown is a C172 (and it's been 10+ years) so I had to go look up how to calculate KTAS. 190 indicated / (31000 * 0.00002) = 307KTAS. Was that really with ~36% thrust?
..and theres me finding VFR ATC radio a handful while flying a small microlight.... lol
That thing goes to 310?
Damn. Now I REALLY want one
great and excellent piece of air craft ever produced under the sun and the moon ❤❤💯💯✌🤟🤘👍💪🙏🌹🌹🌷🌷🪐🪐🌕🌈🎯🎯💎💎💎 the best fantastic air craft and lovely out standing
Is it possible to fly it from the right seat? I've been flying the VisionJet (the original in Xplane 11 AND FlightFX g2 in MSFS) hundreds of hours. I started in 2019 and haven't stopped yet. I absolutely love the plane.
But i usually use my left hand on the throttle on my lap and right hand on a side stick next to my thigh.
Yesterday, for the first time, i tried to flip it for an approach, so it closely resembles the actual placement of those controls. I almost crashed.
Can the SF50 be flown from the right seat? I know it does have sidestick on the right side as well, but the screens are tilted to the left seat, aren't they? Or is it possible to tilt them the other way?
Outstanding presentation and great flight. I lost you on final and decision for the Go Around. Was there a plan prior in briefing for it? I had to hear the intention and clearance. Then the dang thing ended. What was the decision after go around? I'm in curiosity mode. Onward 🌈
Ben
I like these tapes on the Visionjet because of the dialogue explaining why and how the G3000 is being set, particularly the various split screen presentations. With my knowledge of the three touch screen controllers, the fixed angle of the instrument panel allows me to follow the keystrokes to some degree. I just have to get my ear adjusted to British accents.
Patrick Morrissey from Albuquerque
Hahaha that’s awesome! Hope you enjoyed it from watching all the way over there.
At first until I saw real people I thought it was Microsoft Flightsimulator and wondered why the plane was released 1 year ago and I didnt realise😂 Such a lovely video, thanks for sharing
Wow, that was epic! I’m so glad I found your channel. Listening to the ATC I found the most complicated. Always pilot flying & pilot monitoring is the best way.
Thank you very much, Roger!
wow can't believe how slow the vision is 227kt ground speed.
O ya I didn't even think about it being able to go so much higher
Nice video, but I felt cheated that after watching the entire flight the landing was cut off. Epic fail.
It said in the opening of the video that we would fly a low approach then down to another airfield!
a dream for many of us! Thank you for vid!
Absolutely fantastic video! I have been a huge fan of the cirrus jet since it’s inception almost a decade ago when absolutely no one had anything like it. Now you see things like the Honda jet and the Flaris and stratos trying to come in their own with one and in my opinion they don’t hold a candle to the sj50 especially the gen2. So glad you made this extended IFR video not many are on UA-cam especially over Europe! Awesome job! I wish rolls Royce came out with a light jet like Honda and cirrus since they have been making fantastic engines for aviation since before ww2. In my opinion nothing sounds better than a roaring rolls Royce Merlin engine on a spitfire blazing thru the skies
What was the reason for the go around?
I am sure it’s sipping fuel that high up
Interesting but waited till the end for the approach and Royal Troon. Still don't remember you being up!! :D I would have been waving though!!
Haha that’s awesome. We would’ve waved back!
OMG, great aircraft that is simple to operate
Why fly in that altitude? Youre cloud layer was about 100ft. Thanks for the video, nice MINI jet.
fuel burn most likely
That's one advanced aircraft
It was very cool to fly in it!
I like the capability of Cirrus aircraft, but not their looks :/
I think it looks awesome!
Can the cluttering compass rose be removed from the display? it's such legacy design like how the first cars were designed like horse drawn carriages. Speed and altitude tapes should also go away. Could you imagine a tesla having that.
I really like the compass rose! It works very well for IFR Ops.
@@PlaneOldBen let's say hypothetically it has use, it could be switched on but default should definitely be off and that would make it clearer just how low quality their synthetic vision is. comparing to MS FS2020 shows there is room for imrovement. Clarity of display helps a lot. Screens should be bigger and closer.
For some reason I thought this was a flight sim video but it’s real. Even better!
Hahaha it was definitely real!
Sorry you weren't able to squeeze in the landing. Thanks for sharing. Amazing how dark the sky gets at 31K. :)
How do you get all these opportunities to fly different aircraft?
Kind people taking me out for a day!
Wow I think I saw you on Flightradar24
That’s cool!
High Ben from Ireland. Excuse my ignorance but why would you ask for Basic Service and not Radar on an IFR flight? Flown in the UK many times and always friendly welcome. Love the vids.
The approach control don’t have a radar and we weren’t flying a procedure therefore it was all we were able to get.
Class G gotta love it 😊 and it’s always a busy airspace, to the north and east you have the glider and hang glider clubs. West is traffic from Bristol and Cardiff along with a few grass strips. And south is Kemble and the Wiltshire region of madness. ;) welcome to EGBJ and as my instructor first told me you will either be put off and look elsewhere or you shall flourish as a pilot and excel with baptism by fire
A procedural service is an option there 👌
perhaps Learjet to FL510 (special club)one fine day ?
Trying to fly this aircraft in Microsoft Flight Simulator. May I ask a question? There was a lot of stepping on audio early so I missed if you use FLC to climb at 165 knots. Cheers.
Living in Manchester with my nearest airport being Liverpool, I’d love to try this fun hop across the Irish Sea to Dublin to visit family - plus flying this aircraft in Irish airspace is stunning, from Kerry, up through Shannon, Aran Islands, Galway, Knock, Sligo and up to Donegal - IFR flights are essential as the Irish weather west of the River Shannon can change to IMC very rapidly, especially on approach to EIKN even if the weather at Dublin remains VMC
great video plane old ben keep up the great work man
Thank you very much!
I was surprised the plane was so heavily loaded for relatively short flight and 2 pob..were you transporting gold bars for the SNP inependance effort..?
No we were not! Consider the words in the video - we flew the whole leg back after this and didn’t want to refuel again before recovering back to Cranfield, via Turweston. The fuel level and weight were appropriate for the flight.
Fuel on the ground is of no use to you in the air...
Tankering
It’s just one flat screen after another! Sorry too civilised way to many menus, surely this cant be ideal when youre flying ok i understand a visual representation of one screen but you don’t need so much info.
wow this looks amazing
Thanks a lot, James!
Great content! Thanks for the hard work 👍🏼😃
Thanks a lot, hello to Switzerland!
What is the fuel burn in cruise? And I noticed in cruise the screens said 36-37% thrust, what are the limitations from faster airspeeds?
Thanks Ben, where to you operate out of. I would love to check it out, being an old ex aviator my self.
That cirrus has amazing avionics
Cheers, Oz, hope you enjoy it!
Absolutely stunning, not jealous at all🤣🙄
Haha you will have many opportunities when you fly commercial!
What an experience - I wish I wish I wish :-) Thank you for choosing to share it with us.
No worries, Richard, I’m really pleased to have been able to share it!
I wonder if there's any training center for the SF 50 in Dubai
When you went around, did the auto throttle accelerate the plane or the pilot did? Cool video
Any recommendations for a flight school in the Manchester area?
Cool is not the word. Love it.
Aha cheers, Peter!
Love the glass cockpit
The G3000 is amazing isn’t it!
As you were approaching FL310 I noticed you were only doing +/- 133 knots. Is that normal? Seems real slow.
Remember that is indicated airspeed (changes with altitude). At FL 310, without knowing exact outside air temp, I would say that is equivalent of 215 - 218 knots approximately.
I love these jets... look like kiddies toys :)
Haha I definitely felt like an excited kid whilst flying in it!
@@PlaneOldBen not too excited I hope what with the lack of toilet facilities! 😃
Hahah just plan accordingly!
Enjoyed that. - only thing that could have made that better would have been someone at PIK filming from the outside. lol - Nice work Ben.
Yeh that would’ve been awesome!
Woah, epic video!! How much is this cirrus SF50. Is it yours or are you renting or have I missed something? Great video! 😄
Hahaha maybe one day I could afford to rent one!
Ur so lucky and so privileged to have those Garmin's ;-) ppl pilot done around 60 hours
That’s cool - enjoy your flying!
Legend mate - you started saving for one?! ✈️
Hahaha my piggy bank is slowly filling up!
Nice to see some YT Pilots in the UK. #Thumbsup
The thumbnail had me think it was Microsoft Flight simulator
Hahah hope you enjoyed reality over the sim!
Very enjoyable - thank you.
Struggled a bit to hear intercom over radio chatter, which was a shame as some good bits were missed.
Sorry about that David, sadly it’s out of my control but I tried to edit it as best as possible!
At the beginning cockpit audio drowned out by ATC.
Yeh that’s a shame isn’t it! It sounds quieter in the jet than on the video.
Very very well shot video!
Was that a Gloster Javelin sitting on the hard off of RWY 09?
They have a museum at Gloucester.
I love this jet aircraft ! On my X-Plane simulator as well. Thank you for sharing this excellent video and flight.
I’ve really enjoyed flying it on X-Plane too!
such.a cute little jet lol
Plane is real nice but i know you wish it had more power.
Haha for what it is I think it works fantastic for operations in Europe!
Congrats, amazing video!!....I like the pilot sun glasses, could you tell me the brand ....Thank you
I will find out for you!
Great Video! I would love to fly that plane, looks almost like a C172/G1000, but with a jet engine.
Yeh it feels like a big Cirrus SR22!
Bloody marvelous matey. I'm jealous.
Thanks, Peter! It’s such a cool aircraft isn’t it.
I’m only one winning lotto ticket away from a SF50.😀 Beautiful flightdeck! Great visibility.
Thanks a lot!
We have the same dream🤣
Love these videos. I’m new to aviation, so I’d like to ask, why did you do a go around, was that planned from the start or a result of your approach not being optimal?
It was always planned!
The Cirrus Jet really is like a little flying car
Haha feels very high quality that’s for sure!
Great video Ben. What was with the Air France radio call in French at 20:05? Company traffic? Can they do that on a frequency?
Not too sure but great question - I think they were accidentally transmitting on 121.5 - happens from time to time.
@@PlaneOldBen Cheers Ben. Interesting to hear.
wonderful
Those missed approaches look like fun! Always good to keep sharp with those! Really enjoyed this one - thanks!
They’re really good fun and very important to do for currency, a lot happens in a short space of time.
British ATC - best in the business.
They were great with us!
Wow. Just wow. Needed that, Ben! Take care and keep 'em coming!
Aw thank you very much, Adrian! Really nice you enjoyed it, more to come for sure.
Great video and excellent CRM 👌
Ah thank you very much, Pearse.
The cirrus looks an amazing piece of kit
I was super lucky to fly in it, that’s for sure!
Awesome video Ben, really interesting flight!
Thanks a lot, Joe!
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Thanks, Ken, hope you’re well!
Yet again, another great useful video Ben!
Thank you very much, Owen!
Looking at your descent there was no need to go VS at FL200. The VNAV path was only capturing FL200 but it would have continued to FL140 after it met FL200 restriction. It would have only levelled off if you had FL200 pre set in alt bug
Lovely plane and superb video!
Thanks a lot, Sam!
Plot twist at the end with the go-around...
Haha it did say we do that in the opening!
@@PlaneOldBen oops, must have skipped that part haha.
Who owns the plane?
VREF MANAGEMENT INC TRUSTEE - truly ?????
How long did the flight take ?
It was just over one hour, not long at all!
@@PlaneOldBen is that from Gloucestershire to Scotland? What was your cruising speed in mph ? Looks amazing first time I’ve seen your channel
Cool vid Ben, awesome little jet! More like this would be really cool 😎
There might possible be another couple, if people enjoy it!
I’m sure they will! Look forward to it 👍🏻 also appreciate the continuous footage without editing! Thanks Ben good to see you flying again
Thanks was brilliant
Thanks a lot, Terence!
Superb
Thank you, Rishi!
Muito bom!! Parabéns!!
Thanks!
Unreal
Haha it is a very cool jet for sure!
10:20 whats the basic service that you requested here? Are there different levels of ATC service you can get? I thought IFR is the same xD
This is what I found online...
A Basic Service is intended to offer the pilot maximum autonomy and the avoidance of other traffic is solely the pilot's responsibility. The controller/FISO will pass information pertinent to the safe and efficient conduct of flight
@@Duality306 Don't tell him to look it up online, he is asking the author of the video the question.
@@jasonswift7098 Maybe - But they still shared some valuable information. Quit your attitude, it stinks.
@@jasonswift7098 You okay?
I've been near a cirrus jet when it started up and it rumbles everything. Made me feel vibrations in my heart.
Hahaha love it