LeBron James PPG, FG%, 3pt%, TS%, REB, AST, STL, BLK higher then Kobe Bryant. So it's pretty clear LeBron the better player 🤭
LeBron 40,474 pts on 50.6% fg more points then Kobe 33,643 pts on 44.7% fg
LeBron 1st all time points Kobe 1st all time missed shots
Bleacher report top 50 greatest NBA players all time 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 6. Shaquille O'Neal 7. Tim Duncan 14. Kobe Bryant
Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg only 32.9% 3pt most missed shots in the NBA history not even top 10 player all time that's why Bleacher report has him #14
@@dimitirusmcneal6023 You don't know anything since you never tested it been around him so you just a face with a mouth talking and Lying 🥱 LeBron James PPG, FG%, 3pt%, TS%, REB, AST, STL, BLK higher then Kobe Bryant. So it's pretty clear LeBron the better player 🤭
LeBron 40,474 pts on 50.6% fg more points then Kobe 33,643 pts on 44.7% fg
LeBron 1st all time points Kobe 1st all time missed shots
Bleacher report top 50 greatest NBA players all time 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 6. Shaquille O'Neal 7. Tim Duncan 14. Kobe Bryant
Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg only 32.9% 3pt most missed shots in the NBA history not even top 10 player all time that's why Bleacher report has him #14
Man, if these two got along, they probably would have 7 or 8 titles. Egos and Shaq's lack of conditioning ended their amazing run. Add Phil Jackson, damn...
I feel like it was a combination of both but Shaq definitely should’ve taken more of a backseat/second option role by 2002-2003 Kobe showed he can step up and take over when he wants, and was vital to them making it out the West. Had this happen they’d be both be way more accomplished as players.
Yup, Shaq's lack of dedication, spending time rapping, making shitty movies, and eating too many Nestle Crunch bars did him in. For that, I don't consider him one of the best bigs in the game.
@@gugy68 2004 NBA finals Pistons 4 Lakers 1 Shaq 26 ppg, 63% fg, 10 rebs Kobe 22 ppg, 38% fg, 17% 3pt Total shot attempts 2004 NBA finals Kobe 113 Shaq 84 Lakers maybe win more championships if selfish Kobe Bryant didn't go 1on5 and jacking up horrible shots that series and give ball to Shaquille O'Neal lol Even Phil Jackson wrote a book calling Kobe Bryant uncoachable after that Even teammate Kareem Rush said Kobe Bryant was trying to steal finals mvp 2004 and cost Lakers championship when Pistons 4-1 over Lakers 2000 NBA finals Lakers 4 Pacers 2 Kobe 15.6 ppg, 36.7% fg, 20.0% 3pt Carried by Shaq 38.0 ppg, 61.1% fg, 16 rebs Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant a sidekick like Pippen 6 rings Duncan 3 finals mvps, 2 league mvps better player then Kobe 2 finals mvps, 1 league mvp Kobe 41% fg only 31% 3pt in NBA finals career not even top 10 player all time
Lebron James more rebounds, assists, playoff points per game, more MVPs, more Finals MVPs, more playoff game winners, most all time regular season points per game, more All-star selections, more NBA finals triple doubles, better three point shooting(and you say Lebron James is a power forward and technically shooting guards are supposed to have way much better three point shooting than Lebron James), and has better clutch statistics Goat debate: 58.3% of NBA players say Jordan is the goat(officially the goat) 33% say lebron james is the goat(officially the king) Only 6% say brick mamba is the goat(officially the choker). Who has a better true shooting percentage? Lebron James Who has a better Player efficiency rating? Lebron James Who has a better effective field goal percentage? Lebron James. Who has 10 triple doubles in the NBA Finals? Lebron James. Who shot 25% in the NBA finals game 7? Kobe Bryant Has Kobe Bryant ever broke a record? Oh yes: Most missed shots in NBA history in 1 less season played than Lebron James. That's the only thing. Go get some help. Who has 2 40+ 3 point percentage seasons? Lebron James Who has 0? Kobe Bryant. Who never had a season above 50% shooting? Kobe Bryant Who got selected for the All star game when only averaging 17 points on 35% shooting in his final NBA season and single-handingly leading his team to two 60+ loss records? Kobe Bryant Who airballed four times in the clutch? Kobe Bryant. Lebron James never did and he has the most playoff game winning buzzer beaters but you salty Kobe fans say he's a choker when who AIRBALLED FIVE TIMES IN THE FINAL FIVE MINUTS OF AN ELIMINATION GAME? Who carried his team by himself to an all star with his one-man performance while leading his team to a 17-65 record while shooting 35% FG percentage? Kobe Bryant. Lebron James and Michael Jordan have never carried their team to a 60 loss season but because of how salty Kobe Bryant fans are they just don't accept the truth. Jordan is definitely better than Lebron James while Lebron james is DEFINITELY BETTER THAN KOBE BRYANT. I don't want to hear it, but you are JOKING that Lebron James is worse than kobe bryant stop making BIASED opinions. I mean, everyone says NBA players think Kobe is better than Lebron James and only the media likes Lebron James but look at the stats, 33 percent of NBA players think Lebron James is the goat to 6% for Kobe Bryant.
The Saddest Lakers fans should been was 17-65 record worst in franchise history under Kobe 17 ppg on 35% fg and 28% 3pt embarrassing himself and franchise 2015-2016 season so try again kid LeBron James PPG, FG%, 3pt%, TS%, REB, AST, STL, BLK higher then Kobe Bryant. So it's pretty clear LeBron the better player 🤭 LeBron 40,474 pts on 50.5% fg more points then Kobe 33,643 pts on 44.7% fg LeBron 1st all time points Kobe 1st all time missed shots goat 🐐 Jordan 6 fmvps and LeBron 4 fmvps best players on all they teams championships unlike Kobe 2 fmvps Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps and best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant a sidekick like Pippen 6 rings Jordan > LeBron > Shaq > Kobe Bleacher report top 50 greatest NBA players all time 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 6. Shaquille O'Neal 7. Tim Duncan 14. Kobe Bryant Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg only 32.9% 3pt most missed shots in the NBA history not even top 10 player all time that's why Bleacher report has him #14 Kobe Bryant 15 losses seasons he didn't win ring including getting swept 3 times by Jazz 4-0 in 1998 playoffs and by Spurs 4-0 in 1999 playoffs and by Mavericks 4-0 in 2011 playoffs last I checked he doesn't have 20 championships You got Kobe D ick n yo A ss
@@mariostephenson2528 The Saddest Lakers fans should been was 17-65 record worst in franchise history under Kobe 17 ppg on 35% fg and 28% 3pt embarrassing himself and franchise 2015-2016 season so try again kid LeBron James PPG, FG%, 3pt%, TS%, REB, AST, STL, BLK higher then Kobe Bryant. So it's pretty clear LeBron the better player 🤭 LeBron 40,474 pts on 50.5% fg more points then Kobe 33,643 pts on 44.7% fg LeBron 1st all time points Kobe 1st all time missed shots goat 🐐 Jordan 6 fmvps and LeBron 4 fmvps best players on all they teams championships unlike Kobe 2 fmvps Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps and best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant a sidekick like Pippen 6 rings Jordan > LeBron > Shaq > Kobe Bleacher report top 50 greatest NBA players all time 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 6. Shaquille O'Neal 7. Tim Duncan 14. Kobe Bryant Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg only 32.9% 3pt most missed shots in the NBA history not even top 10 player all time that's why Bleacher report has him #14 Kobe Bryant 15 losses seasons he didn't win ring including getting swept 3 times by Jazz 4-0 in 1998 playoffs and by Spurs 4-0 in 1999 playoffs and by Mavericks 4-0 in 2011 playoffs last I checked he doesn't have 20 championships You got Kobe D ick n yo A ss
@@Blk9698 I'd s pit n yo face Goat 🐐 Jordan > Copycat Kobe
Finals Mvps Jordan 6✔️ (most all time) Kobe 2
Rings Jordan 6✔️ Kobe 5
League Mvps Jordan 5✔️ Kobe 1
Total Mvps (league and finals) Jordan 11✔️ (most all time) Kobe 3
Scoring titles Jordan 10✔️ (most all time) Kobe 2
Steals leader Jordan 3✔️ (1988, 1990, 1993) Kobe 0
All defensive first team selections Jordan 9 in 15 years 60% ✔️ Kobe 9 in 20 years 45%
Defensive player of year Jordan 1✔️ (1988) Kobe 0
Career Steals Jordan 2,514✔️ Kobe 1,944
Career blocks Jordan 893✔️ Kobe 640
Seasons played Kobe 20 Jordan 15
Points per game (regular season) Jordan 30.12 ✔️ (1st all time) Kobe 24.99
Player efficiency rating Jordan 1st all time ✔️ Kobe 24th all time
Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg career
Seasons average +30 ppg Jordan 8✔️ Kobe 3
Seasons average +30 ppg on 50% fg Jordan 5✔️ Kobe 0
3point% (NBA finals) Jordan 36.8%✔️ Kobe 31.4%
Playoff game winning buzzer beaters Jordan 3✔️ Kobe 1
Game trying or go ahead shots in 4th quarter last 24 seconds to take lead or tie Jordan 9-18 fg for 50%✔️ Kobe 7-28 fg for 25%
Jordan way better player then Kobe
Bleacher report NBA top 50 best players all time 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 6. Shaquille O'Neal 7. Tim Duncan 14. Kobe Bryant
1991 NBA finals Bulls 4 Lakers 1 First ring Jordan 31.2 pts and 55.8% fg and 50% 3pt and 6.6 rebs and 11.4 ast and finals mvp
2000 NBA finals Lakers 4 Pacers 2 First ring Kobe 15.6 ppg, 36.7% fg, 20% 3pt Carried by Shaq 38.0 pts, 61.1% fg, 16 rebs
Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps and best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant 2nd option
Jordan 6 times best player on his teams titles more then Kobe 2 times
2004 NBA finals Pistons 4 Lakers 1 Kobe 22 pts and 38% fg and 17% 3pt and locked down by Tyshaun Prince
2004 NBA finals Shaq O'Neal 26 pts and 63% fg and 10 rebs vs Detroit Pistons
Can't remember if it was 00 or 02 but Kobe basically WAS the MVP through the post season until Shaq could bully whoever came out of the East. Dominant games against just stacked teams to win when they desperately needed it.
2000 NBA finals Lakers 4 Pacers 2 Kobe 15.6 ppg, 36.7% fg, 20.0% 3pt Carried by Shaq 38.0 ppg, 61.1% fg, 16 rebs Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant a sidekick like Pippen 6 rings Duncan 3 finals mvps, 2 league mvps better player then Kobe 2 finals mvps, 1 league mvp Kobe Bryant 41% fg only 31% 3pt in NBA finals career not even top 10 individual player
@@SojoX777 2000 NBA finals Lakers 4 Pacers 2 Kobe 15.6 ppg, 36.7% fg, 20.0% 3pt Carried by Shaq 38.0 ppg, 61.1% fg, 16 rebs Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant a sidekick like Pippen 6 rings Duncan 3 finals mvps, 2 league mvps better player then Kobe 2 finals mvps, 1 league mvp Kobe Bryant 41% fg only 31% 3pt in NBA finals career not even top 10 individual player
@@StackhouseJerryI believe that individuals who solely rely on statistics are a particular brand of unintelligent. What about points scored in the fourth quarter and shots made when it matters most? How about defensive stops, turnovers induced, and so on? Kobe was a top-tier two-way player for over half of his career, which holds far greater significance than inflated and vacant "calorie" statistics, so to speak.
And if Kobe passed the ball like Shaq was willing to do,he would've won 8 nba titles.Then add when Kobe was trying to win the 2004 finals-MVP-instead of winning the nba title that year,Kobe was a selfish &&& and let his team down. This is according to Smush Parker.
@@user-be7tc2bd6e kobe lead the team assist Shaq points we’re assisted by Kobe you talking about the same undrafted smush Parker who got his best season with kobe and then got out of the league 3 or 2 years later when he left the lakers smush Parker is not good kobe ain’t selfish when he lead the team assist you don’t get one of the most assist in the SG position and be selfish Kobe was carrying 06 team learn basketball
@@dbz4735 I do know basketball,you need to read up on what the guys who played with Kobe had to say about him. Phil Jackson said Kobe was uncoachable in his biography book. In that 2004 Piston's series Kobe was trying to beat the Pistons by himself and Tysaun Prince had the Black Mamba in his back pocket. LOL. Kobe only had that breakout game of 38 pts ( in over-time ) after that he went-MIA. Shaq said in his biography book the reason they lost,was because guys were trying to get theirs ( code for Kobe ) Then when he going thru that rape trial ( this idiot brought that upon himself ) went crying to his team-mates for pity-pats and this is what Brian Shaw said to him : We don't even know you,we invite you to our weddings,you don't show up and other functions you don't come,etc,etc,..
@@dbz4735 2004 NBA finals Pistons 4 Lakers 1 Shaq 26 ppg, 63% fg, 10 rebs Kobe 22 ppg, 38% fg, 17% 3pt Total shot attempts 2004 NBA finals Kobe 113 Shaq 84 Lakers maybe win more championships if selfish Kobe Bryant didn't go 1on5 and jacking up horrible shots that series and give ball to Shaquille O'Neal lol Even Phil Jackson wrote a book calling Kobe Bryant uncoachable after that Even teammate Kareem Rush said Kobe Bryant was trying to steal finals mvp 2004 and cost Lakers championship when Pistons 4-1 over Lakers 2000 NBA finals Lakers 4 Pacers 2 Kobe 15.6 ppg, 36.7% fg, 20.0% 3pt Carried by Shaq 38.0 ppg, 61.1% fg, 16 rebs Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant a sidekick like Pippen 6 rings Duncan 3 finals mvps, 2 league mvps better player then Kobe 2 finals mvps, 1 league mvp Kobe 41% fg only 31% 3pt in NBA finals career not even top 10 player all time
Shaq at his peak, combined with an underrated young Kobe who became the best player in the league during the second title, and was making all NBA and all defensive teams during all three titles and beyond while playing with Shaq. Casuals are brainwashed by simply looking at Finals MVP but Kobe was so freaking good and Lakers win zero titles out of the three that won if it wasn't for Kobe! The dude was putting up ridiculous stats, played great defense and took over the 4th quarters when it mattered most. Greatest duo ever, and it was thanks to both of them - not Shaq carrying some "Robin". Get that out of your head. It was Superman and a young Batman taking over the league! Other superstars throughout history had multiple great teammates, Kobe just had one dominant teammate. As a result, it took away Kobe's chances of a Finals MVP, but by no means does it take anything away from the titles he won. It seems like you need just a little bit of brain to understand that and Kobe's greatness and impact, but many lack that brain for some odd reason. Miss you Kobe!!!
Yep and I've seen Shaq say any of those MVPs could've easily went 2 Kobe but Kobe didn't care he jus wanted 2 win. After the 3 peat when ppl started talking crap is when it got 2 him saying he was being carried blah blah blah. But we kno. man I miss those days
Kobe was arguably more important than Shaq during that 3 peat. Case and point: game 7 of the 2000 WCF (they lose and there's NO 3 PEAT and Shaq goes down as the BIGGEST under-achiever in NBA history). In Game 7 of the 2000 WCF (FAR more difficult than the Finals), Kobe OUTSCORED and OUTREBOUNDED and OUTBLOCKED and OUTASSISTED Shaq (with LESS TURNOVERS). Literally: more points, more rebounds and more blocks and more assists and LESS turnovers than Shaq in the MOST IMPORTANT game of Shaqs career. Intellectual simpletons: sHaQ cArRiEd kObE (but somehow Kobe ended up with MORE rings than Shaq despite having an inferior supporting cast without Shaq, than Shaq had without him).
@@feynmanschwingere_mc2270 Shaq was the best player of the 2000 WCF series. It can be said he carried Kobe and the team. In game 7 Kobe took 10 more shots than Shaq, even though Shaq shot more accurately, including free throws. Kobe was one of the playcallers, and it's up to him who takes more shots, not Shaq. Also, Shaq was better in the 4th quarter.
@@relicdad88 The stats in those finals series weren't close, and Shaq played better defense, so it wouldn't have made sense for Kobe to win any of the FMVPs.
"Shaq at his peak, combined with an underrated young Kobe who became the best player in the league during the second title, and was making all NBA and all defensive teams during all three titles and beyond while playing with Shaq." Kobe became the best player in the league during the second title? You mean second title run, in 2009? That's 7 years later. Kobe wasn't the best player in the league in 2001 or 2002.
@@konodioda0962 if you watch carefully, Skap already breaks it down. Guarding Shaq with Dray is basically a field day. A healthy Kobe is basically unguardable. Not much 3 points. But if that lakers team was shooting 60% who needs 3 pointers. This Lakers team played with no defensive 3 secs ruling, which most teams nowadays benefits. Playing with no REAL rim protection.
@@themindgamer5084 I want to clarify that I think this Lakers team is the either the second or third greatest of all time. I agree with everything you said but 3 is more than 2. You said that if the Lakers are shooting 60% from 2 point range who needs 3s? Well what if the warriors are shooting 50% from 3? What if steph and KD both score 30+ on 50% efficency? Yes shaq and kobe are unguardable but so are the warriors, especially if the big 3 get hot.
@@konodioda0962 I think the most important thing is that "what if's don't matter and hold ZERO value in any conversion". All that matters is the numbers and facts from each to be compared. But you can't really compare different generations with different rules and officiating standards, its just simply an illogical fallacy to "what if" and trying to pin teams against each other in scenarios that don't exist in reality.
@@Goose8585 that's true but if u think abt it a lot of NBA debates are like that anyways, plus it's just fun to imagine the schemes and plays these teams would run against each other yk?
If I have to pick someone to win a game to save my life is without a doubt Michael Jordan, but if I have to pick a team probably Shaq-Kobe Lakers its a pretty goddamm safe bet.
Except against that 2004 Piston's team that smashed the Lakers,they only won one game during that series. I think Jordan's teams that never lost a finals series is a much safer bet,plus winning 2 3-peats-TWICE.
@@user-be7tc2bd6e Brother I think if Kobe And Shaq are playing together And not trying to compete against each other they win against anyone, they just complimented each other so well. But I wont disagre with you Jordan IS always a safe bet. Im saying if anyone IS close to Mike IS Kobe but no one in Mike team was even the slightiest close to Shaq nor was ever a duo that compares to them in their prime .
@@ksks3640 Jordan and Pippen compare to Shaq and kobe in their prime,they won more nba titles to prove it. Both MJ and Pip were much better than either Shaq or kobe on the defensive end of the court. Tim Legler has said on broadcasts how he hated the Bull's full court press led by Pip,Rodman and Ron Harper.
not even a safe bet. not when they cant function as a team for the sake of it. they both have egos and aren't willing to sacrifice for the W. They both wanna be THE GUY but you gotta fault leadership. they should've made a choice FOR them.
It’s because people think Shaq did all the heavy lifting when indeed Kobe was averaging close to or more points than Shaq in the Western Conference playoffs. It was stated that Shaq carried the team til the 4th quarter then Kobe took over to close the game. Who did they have outside of them two? Fisher? Big Shot Bob? Mark Madsen? Definitely an All Time Great team because of both Shaq & Kobe
You are my favorite content creator man. I religiously watch every single one of your videos. It's very refreshing to see someone go to bat for Kobe the way you do. Most of these UA-camrs claim that Kobe Bryant is their favorite player but don't even put him in the same category as LeBron because it hurts their bottom dollar and their connections to possibly getting a spot in the industry. It's crazy how Jordan dominated his era Kobe dominated his and LeBron has had the success he's had but all the while Kobe gets left out of the top 10 and top five consistently even though he dominated the toughest defensive era in basketball.
If you really do watch all his videos religiously. there hasn’t been a time where you have seriously thought that it’s strange that skap willing goes out of his way to talk about lebron even make claims witch end up being false. He is just a mirrored version of a bronsexual over 45% of his videos are about lebron specifically and countless others ones where he side disses him.
@penkima4923 The Lakers by far for starters the Nuggets faced a 42 win Wolves team a 45 Suns team a 43 win Lakers team and a 44 win Heat team the 01 Lakers played a 5p win Blazers team a 55 win Kings team a 58 win Spurs team and a 56 win 76ers team and still went 15&1
@penkima4923 01 Lakers would have mopped the floor with those Nuggets as well they already faced similar players in 04 vs Rockets Yao and Francis were similar to Murray & Jokic and they 4-1'd them Yao would be much closer to Jokic as well if he played in this more modern era stat wise
@@terricarter9435 "The Lakers by far for starters the Nuggets faced a 42 win Wolves team..." So, it was more about the other teammates, and not that much about Shaq and Kobe.
Keep in mind that the reason why Kobe felt the way he felt about Shaq was because Kobe couldn't understand why Shaq didn't have the fire for fitness or anywhere near the same work ethic. Can you imagine a player with Shaq's size the identical essence of Kobe Bryant!!! He'd be in top shape first of all, and I'm not sure how close he'd be to the G.O.A.T. it'd be close, but this theoretical player would be looking in the rearview mirror to see how close any other guy behind him would be
Those that want to say Skap focuses on hating on LeBron, watch this video. He tells the legend of the 2001 Lakers and how legendary of a duo Shaq and Kobe are. R.I.P to a True Legend - the late Kobe Bryant 💜💛🏀
Come on, even though he occasionally makes videos about other players, you can’t deny that his main focus is lebron. Literally most of his videos are dedicated to him.
THANKS SKATT I AM OFFICIALLY THANKFUL FOR YOU BEING A REAL JOURNALIST DOING THE RESEARCH AND PUTTING THINGS IN CONTEXT WHICH IS SO IMPORTANT ALSO THEY WENT 12-3 IN THAT THREE PEAT MIKE AND SCOTTIE DIDN'T DO THAT IN NONE OF THOSE THREE PEATS.
They were definitely the best team I’ve ever watched and I saw the 95/96 Bulls as well. I was in high school during this Lakers season and we all HATED them dudes🤣. Shaq and Kobe just couldn’t keep the egos in check though. I believe Kobe and Duncan would’ve been a far more lasting duo from a personality and psychological standpoint and probably would’ve won 7-8 rings(maybe even more).
@@soulofamerica It wouldn't have been fun for Duncan, not getting the ball as much. He would've probably left Kobe's team after a three-peat. CP3 would've probably been great with Kobe.
@@jkings7921 Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant 0 finals mvps a sidekick like Pippen 6 rings 2000 NBA finals Lakers 4 Pacers 2 Kobe 15.6 ppg, 36.7% fg, 20.0% 3pt Carried by Shaq 38.0 ppg, 61.1% fg, 16 rebs Finals Mvps (individual player) Jordan 6 LeBron 4 Shaq 3 Kobe 2
Best player on teams championships Jordan 6 LeBron 4 Kobe 2
🐐Jordan > LeBron > Shaq > Kobe
LeBron James PPG, FG%, 3pt%, TS%, REB, AST, STL, BLK higher then Kobe Bryant. So it's pretty clear LeBron the better player 🤭
LeBron 40,474 pts on 50.6% fg more points then Kobe 33,643 pts on 44.7% fg
LeBron 1st all time points Kobe 1st all time missed shots
Bleacher report top 50 greatest NBA players all time 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 6. Shaquille O'Neal 7. Tim Duncan 14. Kobe Bryant
Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg only 32.9% 3pt most missed shots in the NBA history not even top 10 player all time that's why Bleacher report has him #14 Kobe 15 seasons he didn't win championship including being swept 3 times by Jazz 4-0 in 1998 playoffs and by Spurs 4-0 in 1999 playoffs and by Mavericks 4-0 in 2012 playoffs lol
@@StackhouseJerryAll good with final career stats and accolades. But shaq in his prime was a hell of a lot more dominant than Lebron. Same with Jordan in the first 3 peat. And I would take Kobe 2006-2009 over Lebron too
Kobe and Shaq is my favorite basketball duo of all time!!!!!!! It was great to see these moments when they actually happened...There will never be another duo like them again! #SIPKOBE #memories
Best player on teams championships Jordan 6 LeBron 4 Kobe 2
Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps and best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant a sidekick like Pippen 6 rings
🐐Jordan > LeBron > Shaq > Kobe
LeBron James PPG, FG%, 3pt%, TS%, REB, AST, STL, BLK higher then Kobe Bryant. So it's pretty clear LeBron the better player 🤭
LeBron 40,474 pts on 50.6% fg more points then Kobe 33,643 pts on 44.7% fg
LeBron 1st all time points Kobe 1st all time missed shots
Bleacher report top 50 greatest NBA players all time 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 6. Shaquille O'Neal 7. Tim Duncan 14. Kobe Bryant
Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg only 32.9% 3pt most missed shots in the NBA history not even top 10 player all time that's why Bleacher report has him #14
Kobe 15 seasons he didn't win championship including being swept 3 times by Jazz 4-0 in 1998 playoffs and by Spurs 4-0 in 1999 playoffs and by Mavericks 4-0 in 2012 playoffs lol
Total Mvps (league and finals) Jordan 11✔️ (most all time) Kobe 3
Scoring titles Jordan 10✔️ (most all time) Kobe 2
Steals leader Jordan 3✔️ (1988, 1990, 1993) Kobe 0
All defensive first team selections Jordan 9 in 15 years 60% ✔️ Kobe 9 in 20 years 45%
Defensive player of year Jordan 1✔️ (1988) Kobe 0
Career Steals Jordan 2,514✔️ Kobe 1,944
Career blocks Jordan 893✔️ Kobe 640
Seasons played Kobe 20 Jordan 15
Points per game (regular season) Jordan 30.12 ✔️ (1st all time) Kobe 24.99
Player efficiency rating Jordan 1st all time ✔️ Kobe 24th all time
Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg career
Seasons average +30 ppg Jordan 8✔️ Kobe 3
Seasons average +30 ppg on 50% fg Jordan 5✔️ Kobe 0
3point% (NBA finals) Jordan 36.8%✔️ Kobe 31.4%
Playoff game winning buzzer beaters Jordan 3✔️ Kobe 1
Game trying or go ahead shots in 4th quarter last 24 seconds to take lead or tie Jordan 9-18 fg for 50%✔️ Kobe 7-28 fg for 25%
Jordan way better player then Kobe
Bleacher report NBA top 50 best players all time 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 6. Shaquille O'Neal 7. Tim Duncan 14. Kobe Bryant
1991 NBA finals Bulls 4 Lakers 1 First ring Jordan 31.2 pts and 55.8% fg and 50% 3pt and 6.6 rebs and 11.4 ast and finals mvp
2000 NBA finals Lakers 4 Pacers 2 First ring Kobe 15.6 ppg, 36.7% fg, 20% 3pt Carried by Shaq 38.0 pts, 61.1% fg, 16 rebs
Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps and best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant 2nd option
Jordan 6 times best player on his teams titles more then Kobe 2 times
2004 NBA finals Pistons 4 Lakers 1 Kobe 22 pts and 38% fg and 17% 3pt and locked down by Tyshaun Prince
2004 NBA finals Shaq O'Neal 26 pts and 63% fg and 10 rebs vs Detroit Pistons
@@skap_attackKobe isn't guarding Mj in '96, try again... Pippen / Rodman are destroying the Lakers forwards on both sides, & as for Shaq that same tandem can slow him down enough to stamp them out in 6gms 😂 & did I mention their sharpshooter off the bench (Kukoc / Kerr / Buchler)
I'm very close to Skap's opinion. As a Bulls fan, I was somewhat pissed off during the 1999-2000 season because I understood those Lakers had the potential to three-peat and even four-peat, and that didn't feel good right after the Bulls' three-peats. I was really mad after WCF Game 7, where the Blazers blew a 15-point lead with 10 minutes to go in the 4th; now I laugh with that Pippen's debacle, things change. The Shaq-Kobe Lakers' full potential was seen in 2001: terrifying and superhuman, and there was no sign of vulnerability. So, yes, it could be the best team ever. Although, already during 2001-02, they had begun to crumble because of their internal strife and I believe they didn't fully deserve the third title. Even Kobe said Sacramento was better. Then, the show ended with the clear-cut losses to San Antonio and Detroit in 2003 and 2004. They are not the most remarkable dynasty, but they indeed could be the greatest team ever at their peak.
well if they crumble because of ego then they aren't a good team. the bulls were FORCED to break up. Im still putting the 96 bulls above the 01 lakers just because they have Jordan. and rodman is gonna cause trouble for shaq LOL rodman would likely tickle shaq or something crazy
Kobe was arguably more important than Shaq during that 3 peat. Case and point: game 7 of the 2000 WCF (they lose and there's NO 3 PEAT and Shaq goes down as the BIGGEST under-achiever in NBA history). In Game 7 of the 2000 WCF (FAR more difficult than the Finals), Kobe OUTSCORED and OUTREBOUNDED and OUTBLOCKED and OUTASSISTED Shaq (with LESS TURNOVERS). Literally: more points, more rebounds and more blocks and more assists and LESS turnovers than Shaq in the MOST IMPORTANT game of Shaqs career. Intellectual simpletons: sHaQ cArRiEd kObE (but somehow Kobe ended up with MORE rings than Shaq despite having an inferior supporting cast without Shaq, than Shaq had without him).
I agree people forget that they beat 4 50 wins team every team they beat had two all start in the 2001 finals they beat the MVP DPOY and the six man while going 16-1
Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant 0 finals mvps a sidekick like Pippen 6 rings 2000 NBA finals Lakers 4 Pacers 2 Kobe 15.6 ppg, 36.7% fg, 20.0% 3pt Carried by Shaq 38.0 ppg, 61.1% fg, 16 rebs Finals Mvps (individual player) Jordan 6 LeBron 4 Shaq 3 Kobe 2
Best player on teams championships Jordan 6 LeBron 4 Kobe 2
🐐Jordan > LeBron > Shaq > Kobe
LeBron James PPG, FG%, 3pt%, TS%, REB, AST, STL, BLK higher then Kobe Bryant. So it's pretty clear LeBron the better player 🤭
LeBron 40,474 pts on 50.6% fg more points then Kobe 33,643 pts on 44.7% fg
LeBron 1st all time points Kobe 1st all time missed shots
Bleacher report top 50 greatest NBA players all time 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 6. Shaquille O'Neal 7. Tim Duncan 14. Kobe Bryant
Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg only 32.9% 3pt most missed shots in the NBA history not even top 10 player all time that's why Bleacher report has him #14 Kobe 15 seasons he didn't win championship including being swept 3 times by Jazz 4-0 in 1998 playoffs and by Spurs 4-0 in 1999 playoffs and by Mavericks 4-0 in 2012 playoffs lol
@@StackhouseJerry Lebron most playoffs loses all time most committed trunovers all time most miss shots all time only player to be swept in three finals all time 7th worst +/- in the NBA finals history -86 second worst NBA finals record 4-6 all time never was part of a dynasty or three peat in 20011 NBA finals he choke avg 17pts three turnover shooting 47.8 percent 32.1 from.three
@@jjohnson4013 Team record proof you don't know basketball 🏀 not a individual player record what about Reja Bell closelined and smacked Kobe in his mouth and after that he blew a 3-1 lead and lost 4-3 to Suns in 2006 playoffs lol LeBron James PPG, FG%, 3pt%, TS%, REB, AST, STL, BLK higher then Kobe Bryant. So it's pretty clear LeBron the better player 🤭 LeBron 40,474 pts on 50.5% fg more points then Kobe 33,643 pts on 44.7% fg LeBron 1st all time points Kobe 1st all time missed shots goat 🐐 Jordan 6 fmvps and LeBron 4 fmvps best players on all they teams championships unlike Kobe 2 fmvps Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps and best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant a sidekick like Pippen 6 rings Jordan > LeBron > Shaq > Kobe Bleacher report top 50 greatest NBA players all time 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 6. Shaquille O'Neal 7. Tim Duncan 14. Kobe Bryant Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg only 32.9% 3pt most missed shots in the NBA history not even top 10 player all time that's why Bleacher report has him #14 Kobe Bryant 15 losses seasons he didn't win ring including getting swept 3 times by Jazz 4-0 in 1998 playoffs and by Spurs 4-0 in 1999 playoffs and by Mavericks 4-0 in 2011 playoffs last I checked he doesn't have 20 championships You got Kobe D ick n yo A ss
@@jjohnson4013 2004 NBA finals Pistons 4 Lakers 1 Kobe 22 ppg on 38% fg and 17% 3pt what about that ? Lol Kobe 41% fg only 31% 3pt for a career in NBA finals building bricks lol Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and carried Kobe Bryant to 3 sidekick rings lol Goat 🐐 Jordan 6 finals mvps and LeBron 4 finals mvps best players on all they teams championships unlike Kobe 2 finals mvps can never say that 🤣 Duncan 3 finals mvps, 2 league mvps better player then Kobe 2 finals mvps, 1 league mvp Yo boy friend Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg only 32.9% 3pt most OVERRATED player in NBA history not even top 10 player all time that's what his stats say
As a life long Lakers fan and KOBE being my favorite player since I was 10... That 2008 lose to the Cs will always gutt me that KOBE didn't 3peat 2 times like MJ.
The 25 and 1 record was a must win to maintain as a high seed. Throughout history, teams that clinch their conference early will coast through the remaining part of the season.
LOL most are just crushing me as it pertains to the 96 Bulls. But anyone who knows me or my content knows I have Jordan as the EASY GOAT. BUT, I also have Kobe EASY top 5 all time. Put him on a team in 2001 with PRIME Shaq who is arguably the most dominant player in league history? There is not one two punch ever that got remotely close to this caliber. In 95, the Shaq Penny Magic beat the Jordan Bulls in 6 in the East Semis. Yes, the Bulls came back in 96 and dusted them. BUT, Shaq's 2001 version was substantially better than he was in 95. And Kobe in 01 clears Penny in 95. This would be a great matchup. But I am taking LA.
@@skap_attackI think you are forgetting one key item about the 96 Bulls, and that is Dennis Rodman. We even saw a glimpse of that matchup when Shaq went to the lakers, where rodman was able to completely shutdown prime Shaq to just 4 points. Not saying the Lakers have no shot, but i do give the 96 bulls a slight edge on winning a series.
Age 27 Shaq reported to 1999 Lakers Training Camp at 320 pounds and likely played at 315 pounds in 1999-2000 Season. Age 21 Kobe was clearly his sidekick. In his most dominant shape, Shaq earned Season MVP & Finals MVP. Shaq was a little late getting foot surgery and reported to 2000 Lakers Training Camp around 335 pounds. Thus, Kobe carried the Lakers for their first third of the season until Shaq dropped about 15 pounds in season. If Shaq was in shape the entire season, he would have earned a 2nd Season MVP. Kobe performed best in the 2001 Western Conference Playoffs but Dominant Shaq reemerged and Kobe wisely deferred to him in the 2001 Finals. Shaq earned his 2nd Finals MVP. Shaq was getting off-season surgery and reported to 2001 Lakers Training Camp around 350 pounds. That deepened his rift with Kobe because it forced Kobe to carry the team until Shaq lost 15 pounds again. Hence, Kobe & Shaq were Dual Alphas in 2001-02 Season. In the Finals, Kobe shot less to conserve more energy disrupting 1st Team All-NBA Jason Kidd. Shaq exploited 3 Journeymen Centers on the Nets to put up monster numbers. Shaq reported to 2002 Lakers Training Camp around 360 pounds. Though he lost about 15 pounds again, he never got in good shape. Age 24 Kobe became the Alpha (3rd Season MVP vote shares). Age 30 Shaq told the media he was still the Alpha, but his being out of shape was the main reason the Lakers lost to the Spurs in the 2003 Conference Playoffs. Kobe got in Colorado trouble that summer. Shaq was VERY late getting foot surgery and reported to 2003 Lakers Training Camp around 380 pounds. Though he likely lost 20 pounds in 2003-04 Season, It pissed off Kobe that he was flying to Colorado for court dates on the regular while Shaq remained grossly overweight. Kobe didn't want to pass as much to that version of Shaq. Eventually, Coach Jackson asked Kobe to pass more to Shaq to prevent "Losing Him" in the Playoffs. NET: Kobe should have fed Overweight Shaq more to win 1 more game in the 2004 Finals. If Shaq weighed 330 pounds, Kobe would have passed more to let Shaq dominate Ben Wallace. That Lakers would have won the 2004 Chip.
Tell me you HATE Kobe without telling me you HATE Kobe. LIES. Kobe OUTPLAYED Shaq when it ACTUALLY mattered: over and over and over again. Kobe was arguably more important than Shaq during that 3 peat. Case and point: game 7 of the 2000 WCF (they lose and there's NO 3 PEAT and Shaq goes down as the BIGGEST under-achiever in NBA history). In Game 7 of the 2000 WCF (FAR more difficult than the Finals), Kobe OUTSCORED and OUTREBOUNDED and OUTBLOCKED and OUTASSISTED Shaq (with LESS TURNOVERS). Literally: more points, more rebounds and more blocks and more assists and LESS turnovers than Shaq in the MOST IMPORTANT game of Shaqs career. Intellectual simpletons: sHaQ cArRiEd kObE (but somehow Kobe ended up with MORE rings than Shaq despite having an inferior supporting cast without Shaq, than Shaq had without him).
@@feynmanschwingere_mc2270 Not hating Kobe. Based on my criteria with context, I rank #1 MJ, # Kareem, #3 Kobe, #4 Duncan, #5 Magic, #6 LeBron, #7 Russell, #8 Wilt, #9 Shaq, #10 Bird though Curry is chasing #10.
Damn skap honestly it would have been great to see that lakers team play the 95-96 bulls team in there prime. Love your takes. Waiting on the next video.
I am talking 2001. They were 15-1 that year. Ended the season on an 8 game win streak. Went 24-1 to end the season with their only loss in overtime of the NBA Finals. And they played a harder postseason path than any team ever outside of the 95 Rockets. The 95 Rockets tho weren't remotely as dominant. These Lakers not only went 15-1 in the playoffs, their average margin of differential was 12.8. Second best ever. Again, it came against the second hardest run of opponents ever. This is pretty easy case TBH.
Bulls in 1996 win 72 games Bulls in 1997 win 69 games w/ Kukoc and Rodman playing only 52 and 55 games. Bulls in 1998 win 62 games w/ Pippen playing only 44 games and Rodman 57 games. Michael Jordan could have led 3 straight teams to 70 plus wins and a 2nd 3peat. No one would beat those healthy 96 Bulls. No one.
Bro just casually forgot the 2017 Warriors, 1971 Bucks, 1972 Lakers, "Fo, Fo, Fo" Sixers, Bird's Celtics, Showtime Lakers, The Heatles, and the 2014 Spurs
@@calebvanberkom5571 Those teams would probably be my next 5 teams minus the 2014 Spurs they are nothing special all time wise not sure were that came from would out 2005/2007 Spurs over as best Spurs team
I agree. Kobe in 2001 was closer to Jordan in 96 than ANY of the front court players for Chicago was to Shaq. Remember in 95, Shaq and Penny beat Jordan's Bulls in 6 games in the East semis. Shaq in 2001 was MUCH better than his 95 version. And Kobe in 2001 was superior to the Penny 95 version. The fact people think the 96 Bulls would destroy these Lakers is laughable.
@@skap_attack I believe it would be a close series. Like REALLY close. It will be game 7 and Jordan has the ball they are down by one. Jordan would ice the game because he is THAT clutch. You underestimate Jordan a little but other than that I agree with you
Best player on teams championships Jordan 6 LeBron 4 Kobe 2
Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps and best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant a sidekick like Pippen 6 rings
🐐Jordan > LeBron > Shaq > Kobe
LeBron James PPG, FG%, 3pt%, TS%, REB, AST, STL, BLK higher then Kobe Bryant. So it's pretty clear LeBron the better player 🤭
LeBron 40,474 pts on 50.6% fg more points then Kobe 33,643 pts on 44.7% fg
LeBron 1st all time points Kobe 1st all time missed shots
Bleacher report top 50 greatest NBA players all time 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 6. Shaquille O'Neal 7. Tim Duncan 14. Kobe Bryant
Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg only 32.9% 3pt most missed shots in the NBA history not even top 10 player all time that's why Bleacher report has him #14
Kobe 15 seasons he didn't win championship including being swept 3 times by Jazz 4-0 in 1998 playoffs and by Spurs 4-0 in 1999 playoffs and by Mavericks 4-0 in 2012 playoffs lol
well this is one hell of a glossified perspective of this particular team... they for sure are not the greatest what so ever of all historical championship teams that have existed, top 10 sure but their are 5 other teams that would take this one to 6 or 7 games and beat them due to certain plyers mentality during that time Skap is choosing to ignore.. and when it comes to 01 Lakers vs. 96 Bulls it all comes down to who pays David Stern enough money to sway the refs to give the edge to which ever team because no matter how you jock sniffers feel that 01 lakers team benefited from that in the playoffs, ESPICALLY Against Sacramento, from the one way enforcement of foul calling
Sorry but 3:30 ❌. We dont give credit to Donaghy rings here. Shaq Kobe Lakers are not among the all time greatest teams. I love Kobe and Shaq but they simply underachieved together.
I remember by the NBA Finals that year, I was walking around with a vacuum cleaner instead of a broom because the Lakers were so dominant! I get their regular season record wasn't all that great but a sweep sweep, sweep, followed by a gentleman sweep is (DAMN IT!) dominance! Especially against 4 50 win teams! Anyways, as always, great flipping video! And I can't wait to see what you got coming leading up to Kobe day! Excellent work, Mr. Attack! Yours is one of the few channels I have notifications on so I can watch him as soon as you pop them, thank you!
I'm big MJ Bulls fan, but I agree Shaq & Kobe Lakers the greatest team ever. Because nobody could stop Kobe or Shaq, for the Bulls only MJ was unstoppable.
Oh how fun it would be to see the 2001 Lakers go against the 96 or 97 bulls. I would like your insight on the 2004 series where my pistons shocked the lakers in 5 and almost won in 4
I like that 3 peat Lakers Team, they have the most undeniable X factor in Shaquille Oneal in Prime with a undouble teamed Kobe, just nasty. Loaded with veterans all over the roster guided by the GOAT coach. Lethal Squad. Them the 96 Bulls, and the 17 Warriors all legit teams in this convo
💥💥💥 THANK YOU SKAP 💥💥💥 Thx for pointing out how much TOUGHER the WEST was then... especially 1999-2010..... LeBrick would NEVER see the Finals in the West..NEVER.....he's struggling NOW when it's half as powerful......he CAN'T make it to a legitimate Finals in the WEST!! LeBalco excuses here: _________________
That Lakers Playoff run was incredible. Iverson went ballistic to win one game. He was so pumped, I remembered watching but it did not last long. Lakers was too dominant.
Yep who they face that year was it blazers kings spurs then Philly or kings blazers spurs then Philly either way 1 loss thru whole playoffs is ridiculous they were jus 2 good n I think fisher n horry hit couple of crazy last sec shots thru those playoffs if I can remember correctly been awhile off top of my head lol
-Russell's Celtic -Warriors with Wilt -Bucks with Kareem & Oscar -72 Lakers -76s with Dr J and Moses -86 Celtics -87 Lakers -Bad Boys -96 Bulls -00 Lakers -Warriors with KD These are the contenders for the greatest team
Thinking about how much more dominant Shaq could have been if he just simply stayed in shape like Kobe and Phil told him to is what keeps me up at night.
Yea man if he was as hungry as Bean was I'd assume they at least get 6 together but it is what it is they are underrated thx 2 the lemedia nowadays but we kno we saw it only 1 loss in the finals in a overtime game thats insane. What was it 16-1 I dnt recall a team steamrolling great competition like they did.
I hated the Kobe/Shaq Lakers so much back then, because I always felt like Shaq was so dirty and hardly ever got called for offensive fouls. I'd also root for the Kings or Blazers when they played. But as soon as Shaq left Kobe was my guy.
Skap, phenomenal job. The Shaq and Kobe Lakers get far too LITTLE love. Too many media fans, I mean scams focus too much on the fake narrative that Shaq carried Kobe and they overlook that this team 3peated. Kobe was a superstar player on a team that did something that only one other team in the modern era has ever done.
I know the 96 Bulls lost 3 playoff games, and 2001 Lakers only lost one, but the two losses to Seattle were games the Bulls could've won, if they didn't want to win it in Chicago. And their regular season record was much better. And they had Jordan.
The 96 Bulls were certainly a better reg season team. Trouble is, nobody even slowed down that 2001 Lakers team in the post-season (even a little). The single game they lost was after a 9-day layoff - due to sweeping the #1 seeded Spurs in the WCF.
Doesn't matter 😂😂😂competition that Bulls had in 1996 wasn't nearly as tough as Lakers's in 2001. Literally Lakers beat one 50+ winning team, 2 55+ winning teams and one 60+ winning team in that play off. And if we are talking about what could've happen, honestly Kobe struggled in that first game, didn't play as well as all games before and Lakers stilk lost in obertime so they could also win that game and be unbeatable in these play off so stop it with those could've, should've bullshit... The point is, Lakers played against team who won 61 games that year, San Antonio Spurs with the greatest power foward of all time Tim Duncan snd great role players. Than in finals they played against Philadephia. They had Iverson who was MVP that season, Dikembe Mutombo who was DPOY and the best 6th man. Tell me, who played nice in that finals run from Sonix except Kemp??? Kemp literally carried them in those finals and all other simply weren't players on that level... Philadephia and San Antonio were without a doubt better than Seatle from 96 and any other team that Bulls faced that year.
@hristijandimitrovski8664 Payton was good in the finals. Schrempf underperformed; his shot wasn't really on, and that was his only move. Hawkins and Perkins played well. I think the 96 Sonics team would have beaten the 2001 Philadelphia team.
@@horumgrombo6519 and you are wrong😂they wouldn't beat him because only Iverson averaged 1/3 of their points per game in finals 😂and when you add Dikembe who can guard Kemp who was their best player, other role players are also better than Sonic's role players...
That 01 team was ridiculous once the postseason started. The layoff and not taking the sixers seriously caught them. Plus Philly played their butts off and AI was insane too. If shaq and Kobe could have coexisted better they could likely have won 5-6 together and Kobe may have won 1-3 more after shaq retired.
That's true I use that an argument against LeBron James fans, and then you just made me realize that the Philadelphia 76ers, are actually better than we gave him credit for.
This Lakers team was a great team with a hard playoff run, but the best team in NBA history is still the 1996 Chicago Bulls.The Bulls had the best record 72-10 and won the championship with a playoff record of 15-3 against a stacked Easter Conference (Heat, Knicks, Majic, and Supersonics). Not to mention that the Bulls had a much weaker team lineup overall in comparison to the Lakers. Great vid though!
The Celtics in 58-59. Cousy was the MVP in '57, Russell in '58 and they, together with Bill Sharman, were First Team All-NBA in '59. Three First Team All-NBA players, of that year, in the same team? A team which also included three MORE future Hall of Famers in K. C. Jones, Sam Jones and Frank Ramsey. Yes, they played in a different era, with significantly different rules (no carrying, no traveling, no charging, no 3-point line, etc) but that's a LOT of talent in one team. Sure, the Cous was fresh into his thirties, and Sharman was 32, but they were both still in their prime, as them making First Team All-NBA proves. Relative to their respective leagues, that's not a question, that's a certainty. Would they win against Shaq and Kobe's Lakers...what rules would they be playing under? Because that's the sole deciding factor, to me.
Nor specific order- 86 Celtics ‘14 spurs 95 bulls 2000 lakers 2016 warriors Any one of these teams could win a ship in any era against any team Even each other. Also, that 2021 bucks team is highly underrated. I’d say they could be in the mix
Seriously if they stayed together and worked their relationship like magic and Kareem , they definitely would have won more rings . Let shaq be the main man for several years and then let Kobe take over after that exactly like magic and Kareem did. If they did that 8 rings or more. For sure. 2000s would’ve been theirs like bulls owned the 90s
Report about how Steph and KD were drug tested in the Olympics but not Lebalco.
Are you serious right now
We all know that he on that juice
LeBron James PPG, FG%, 3pt%, TS%, REB, AST, STL, BLK higher then Kobe Bryant. So it's pretty clear LeBron the better player 🤭
LeBron 40,474 pts on 50.6% fg more points then Kobe 33,643 pts on 44.7% fg
LeBron 1st all time points
Kobe 1st all time missed shots
Bleacher report top 50 greatest NBA players all time
1. Michael Jordan
2. LeBron James
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
6. Shaquille O'Neal
7. Tim Duncan
14. Kobe Bryant
Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg only 32.9% 3pt most missed shots in the NBA history not even top 10 player all time that's why Bleacher report has him #14
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You don't know anything since you never tested it been around him so you just a face with a mouth talking and Lying 🥱
LeBron James PPG, FG%, 3pt%, TS%, REB, AST, STL, BLK higher then Kobe Bryant. So it's pretty clear LeBron the better player 🤭
LeBron 40,474 pts on 50.6% fg more points then Kobe 33,643 pts on 44.7% fg
LeBron 1st all time points
Kobe 1st all time missed shots
Bleacher report top 50 greatest NBA players all time
1. Michael Jordan
2. LeBron James
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
6. Shaquille O'Neal
7. Tim Duncan
14. Kobe Bryant
Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg only 32.9% 3pt most missed shots in the NBA history not even top 10 player all time that's why Bleacher report has him #14
Kobe didn't get to play this entire career under stat inflating no defense rules, Context is a helluva thing.@@StoneCold2k57
Man, if these two got along, they probably would have 7 or 8 titles. Egos and Shaq's lack of conditioning ended their amazing run. Add Phil Jackson, damn...
shaq ego tbh
I feel like it was a combination of both but Shaq definitely should’ve taken more of a backseat/second option role by 2002-2003 Kobe showed he can step up and take over when he wants, and was vital to them making it out the West. Had this happen they’d be both be way more accomplished as players.
@@WORLDWIDESOCAL9 To be fair, both and also PJ's.
Yup, Shaq's lack of dedication, spending time rapping, making shitty movies, and eating too many Nestle Crunch bars did him in. For that, I don't consider him one of the best bigs in the game.
@@gugy68
2004 NBA finals
Pistons 4 Lakers 1
Shaq 26 ppg, 63% fg, 10 rebs
Kobe 22 ppg, 38% fg, 17% 3pt
Total shot attempts 2004 NBA finals
Kobe 113
Shaq 84
Lakers maybe win more championships if selfish Kobe Bryant didn't go 1on5 and jacking up horrible shots that series and give ball to Shaquille O'Neal lol
Even Phil Jackson wrote a book calling Kobe Bryant uncoachable after that
Even teammate Kareem Rush said Kobe Bryant was trying to steal finals mvp 2004 and cost Lakers championship when Pistons 4-1 over Lakers
2000 NBA finals
Lakers 4 Pacers 2
Kobe 15.6 ppg, 36.7% fg, 20.0% 3pt
Carried by
Shaq 38.0 ppg, 61.1% fg, 16 rebs
Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant a sidekick like Pippen 6 rings
Duncan 3 finals mvps, 2 league mvps better player then Kobe 2 finals mvps, 1 league mvp
Kobe 41% fg only 31% 3pt in NBA finals career not even top 10 player all time
LeBalco was exempted from drug testing 😂
We all know only he gets preferential treatment…
Lebron James more rebounds, assists, playoff points per game, more MVPs, more Finals MVPs, more playoff game winners, most all time regular season points per game, more All-star selections, more NBA finals triple doubles, better three point shooting(and you say Lebron James is a power forward and technically shooting guards are supposed to have way much better three point shooting than Lebron James), and has better clutch statistics
Goat debate:
58.3% of NBA players say Jordan is the goat(officially the goat)
33% say lebron james is the goat(officially the king)
Only 6% say brick mamba is the goat(officially the choker).
Who has a better true shooting percentage? Lebron James
Who has a better Player efficiency rating? Lebron James
Who has a better effective field goal percentage? Lebron James.
Who has 10 triple doubles in the NBA Finals? Lebron James.
Who shot 25% in the NBA finals game 7? Kobe Bryant
Has Kobe Bryant ever broke a record?
Oh yes: Most missed shots in NBA history in 1 less season played than Lebron James. That's the only thing. Go get some help.
Who has 2 40+ 3 point percentage seasons? Lebron James
Who has 0? Kobe Bryant.
Who never had a season above 50% shooting? Kobe Bryant
Who got selected for the All star game when only averaging 17 points on 35% shooting in his final NBA season and single-handingly leading his team to two 60+ loss records? Kobe Bryant
Who airballed four times in the clutch? Kobe Bryant. Lebron James never did and he has the most playoff game winning buzzer beaters but you salty Kobe fans say he's a choker when who AIRBALLED FIVE TIMES IN THE FINAL FIVE MINUTS OF AN ELIMINATION GAME? Who carried his team by himself to an all star with his one-man performance while leading his team to a 17-65 record while shooting 35% FG percentage? Kobe Bryant. Lebron James and Michael Jordan have never carried their team to a 60 loss season but because of how salty Kobe Bryant fans are they just don't accept the truth. Jordan is definitely better than Lebron James while Lebron james is DEFINITELY BETTER THAN KOBE BRYANT. I don't want to hear it, but you are JOKING that Lebron James is worse than kobe bryant stop making BIASED opinions. I mean, everyone says NBA players think Kobe is better than Lebron James and only the media likes Lebron James but look at the stats, 33 percent of NBA players think Lebron James is the goat to 6% for Kobe Bryant.
@@BurgerNews-g6r You got wrecked in the comments by everyone.
Just throw in the towel already.
@@kovy689 Did not ask
@@kovy689 Did not ask
I'm not a Lakers fan but I respected the hell out of that organization once upon a time. Sad to see what they have been reduced to.
You and me both. It's really depressing to have seen all that has happened already and what is still left to come.😢
The Saddest Lakers fans should been was 17-65 record worst in franchise history under Kobe 17 ppg on 35% fg and 28% 3pt embarrassing himself and franchise 2015-2016 season so try again kid
LeBron James PPG, FG%, 3pt%, TS%, REB, AST, STL, BLK higher then Kobe Bryant. So it's pretty clear LeBron the better player 🤭
LeBron 40,474 pts on 50.5% fg more points then Kobe 33,643 pts on 44.7% fg
LeBron 1st all time points
Kobe 1st all time missed shots
goat 🐐 Jordan 6 fmvps and LeBron 4 fmvps best players on all they teams championships unlike Kobe 2 fmvps
Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps and best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant a sidekick like Pippen 6 rings
Jordan > LeBron > Shaq > Kobe
Bleacher report top 50 greatest NBA players all time
1. Michael Jordan
2. LeBron James
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
6. Shaquille O'Neal
7. Tim Duncan
14. Kobe Bryant
Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg only 32.9% 3pt most missed shots in the NBA history not even top 10 player all time that's why Bleacher report has him #14
Kobe Bryant 15 losses seasons he didn't win ring including getting swept 3 times by Jazz 4-0 in 1998 playoffs and by Spurs 4-0 in 1999 playoffs and by Mavericks 4-0 in 2011 playoffs last I checked he doesn't have 20 championships
You got Kobe D ick n yo A ss
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The Saddest Lakers fans should been was 17-65 record worst in franchise history under Kobe 17 ppg on 35% fg and 28% 3pt embarrassing himself and franchise 2015-2016 season so try again kid
LeBron James PPG, FG%, 3pt%, TS%, REB, AST, STL, BLK higher then Kobe Bryant. So it's pretty clear LeBron the better player 🤭
LeBron 40,474 pts on 50.5% fg more points then Kobe 33,643 pts on 44.7% fg
LeBron 1st all time points
Kobe 1st all time missed shots
goat 🐐 Jordan 6 fmvps and LeBron 4 fmvps best players on all they teams championships unlike Kobe 2 fmvps
Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps and best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant a sidekick like Pippen 6 rings
Jordan > LeBron > Shaq > Kobe
Bleacher report top 50 greatest NBA players all time
1. Michael Jordan
2. LeBron James
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
6. Shaquille O'Neal
7. Tim Duncan
14. Kobe Bryant
Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg only 32.9% 3pt most missed shots in the NBA history not even top 10 player all time that's why Bleacher report has him #14
Kobe Bryant 15 losses seasons he didn't win ring including getting swept 3 times by Jazz 4-0 in 1998 playoffs and by Spurs 4-0 in 1999 playoffs and by Mavericks 4-0 in 2011 playoffs last I checked he doesn't have 20 championships
You got Kobe D ick n yo A ss
@@StackhouseJerry u gay
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I'd s pit n yo face
Goat 🐐 Jordan > Copycat Kobe
Finals Mvps
Jordan 6✔️ (most all time)
Kobe 2
Rings
Jordan 6✔️
Kobe 5
League Mvps
Jordan 5✔️
Kobe 1
Total Mvps (league and finals)
Jordan 11✔️ (most all time)
Kobe 3
Scoring titles
Jordan 10✔️ (most all time)
Kobe 2
Steals leader
Jordan 3✔️ (1988, 1990, 1993)
Kobe 0
All defensive first team selections
Jordan 9 in 15 years 60% ✔️
Kobe 9 in 20 years 45%
Defensive player of year
Jordan 1✔️ (1988)
Kobe 0
Career Steals
Jordan 2,514✔️
Kobe 1,944
Career blocks
Jordan 893✔️
Kobe 640
Seasons played
Kobe 20
Jordan 15
Points per game (regular season)
Jordan 30.12 ✔️ (1st all time)
Kobe 24.99
Player efficiency rating
Jordan 1st all time ✔️
Kobe 24th all time
Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg career
Seasons average +30 ppg
Jordan 8✔️
Kobe 3
Seasons average +30 ppg on 50% fg
Jordan 5✔️
Kobe 0
3point% (NBA finals)
Jordan 36.8%✔️
Kobe 31.4%
Playoff game winning buzzer beaters
Jordan 3✔️
Kobe 1
Game trying or go ahead shots in 4th quarter last 24 seconds to take lead or tie
Jordan 9-18 fg for 50%✔️
Kobe 7-28 fg for 25%
Jordan way better player then Kobe
Bleacher report NBA top 50 best players all time
1. Michael Jordan
2. LeBron James
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
6. Shaquille O'Neal
7. Tim Duncan
14. Kobe Bryant
1991 NBA finals
Bulls 4 Lakers 1
First ring
Jordan 31.2 pts and 55.8% fg and 50% 3pt and 6.6 rebs and 11.4 ast and finals mvp
2000 NBA finals
Lakers 4 Pacers 2
First ring
Kobe 15.6 ppg, 36.7% fg, 20% 3pt
Carried by
Shaq 38.0 pts, 61.1% fg, 16 rebs
Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps and best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant 2nd option
Jordan 6 times best player on his teams titles more then Kobe 2 times
2004 NBA finals
Pistons 4 Lakers 1
Kobe 22 pts and 38% fg and 17% 3pt and locked down by Tyshaun Prince
2004 NBA finals
Shaq O'Neal 26 pts and 63% fg and 10 rebs vs Detroit Pistons
Shaq actually said that Kobe's could've won Finals MVP every year of the three peat, but he was focused on the team concept.
Can't remember if it was 00 or 02 but Kobe basically WAS the MVP through the post season until Shaq could bully whoever came out of the East. Dominant games against just stacked teams to win when they desperately needed it.
2000 NBA finals
Lakers 4 Pacers 2
Kobe 15.6 ppg, 36.7% fg, 20.0% 3pt
Carried by
Shaq 38.0 ppg, 61.1% fg, 16 rebs
Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant a sidekick like Pippen 6 rings
Duncan 3 finals mvps, 2 league mvps better player then Kobe 2 finals mvps, 1 league mvp
Kobe Bryant 41% fg only 31% 3pt in NBA finals career not even top 10 individual player
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2000 NBA finals
Lakers 4 Pacers 2
Kobe 15.6 ppg, 36.7% fg, 20.0% 3pt
Carried by
Shaq 38.0 ppg, 61.1% fg, 16 rebs
Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant a sidekick like Pippen 6 rings
Duncan 3 finals mvps, 2 league mvps better player then Kobe 2 finals mvps, 1 league mvp
Kobe Bryant 41% fg only 31% 3pt in NBA finals career not even top 10 individual player
Bullshit and the numbers don’t support that
@@StoneCold2k57 thank you Kobe fans will argue against facts
Kobe Legend
Dude you haven't even watched the video 😂😂
Indeed! Rest in Power, LEGEND.
@@maroonmedia2000
No need to! Kobe is Kobe!
@@StackhouseJerryjust going around copying and pasting the same comment? Lol
@@StackhouseJerryI believe that individuals who solely rely on statistics are a particular brand of unintelligent. What about points scored in the fourth quarter and shots made when it matters most? How about defensive stops, turnovers induced, and so on? Kobe was a top-tier two-way player for over half of his career, which holds far greater significance than inflated and vacant "calorie" statistics, so to speak.
If Shaq had Kobe's mindset and killer instinct, he would've won like 8 championships.
And if Kobe passed the ball like Shaq was willing to do,he would've won 8 nba titles.Then add when Kobe was trying to win the 2004 finals-MVP-instead of winning the nba title that year,Kobe was a selfish &&& and let his team down. This is according to Smush Parker.
@@user-be7tc2bd6e kobe lead the team assist Shaq points we’re assisted by Kobe you talking about the same undrafted smush Parker who got his best season with kobe and then got out of the league 3 or 2 years later when he left the lakers smush Parker is not good kobe ain’t selfish when he lead the team assist you don’t get one of the most assist in the SG position and be selfish Kobe was carrying 06 team learn basketball
@@user-be7tc2bd6e you dont know ish
@@dbz4735 I do know basketball,you need to read up on what the guys who played with Kobe had to say about him. Phil Jackson said Kobe was uncoachable in his biography book. In that 2004 Piston's series Kobe was trying to beat the Pistons by himself and Tysaun Prince had the Black Mamba in his back pocket. LOL. Kobe only had that breakout game of 38 pts ( in over-time ) after that he went-MIA. Shaq said in his biography book the reason they lost,was because guys were trying to get theirs ( code for Kobe ) Then when he going thru that rape trial ( this idiot brought that upon himself ) went crying to his team-mates for pity-pats and this is what Brian Shaw said to him : We don't even know you,we invite you to our weddings,you don't show up and other functions you don't come,etc,etc,..
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2004 NBA finals
Pistons 4 Lakers 1
Shaq 26 ppg, 63% fg, 10 rebs
Kobe 22 ppg, 38% fg, 17% 3pt
Total shot attempts 2004 NBA finals
Kobe 113
Shaq 84
Lakers maybe win more championships if selfish Kobe Bryant didn't go 1on5 and jacking up horrible shots that series and give ball to Shaquille O'Neal lol
Even Phil Jackson wrote a book calling Kobe Bryant uncoachable after that
Even teammate Kareem Rush said Kobe Bryant was trying to steal finals mvp 2004 and cost Lakers championship when Pistons 4-1 over Lakers
2000 NBA finals
Lakers 4 Pacers 2
Kobe 15.6 ppg, 36.7% fg, 20.0% 3pt
Carried by
Shaq 38.0 ppg, 61.1% fg, 16 rebs
Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant a sidekick like Pippen 6 rings
Duncan 3 finals mvps, 2 league mvps better player then Kobe 2 finals mvps, 1 league mvp
Kobe 41% fg only 31% 3pt in NBA finals career not even top 10 player all time
Greatest duo easily. Shaq would dominate the middle and Kobe would shut down the perimeter. It’s a good case.
Would Shaq dominate the middle though? Duncan did his ass up.
Uh, no. Jordan & Pippen is the greatest duo ever.
How is it a greater duo than Mike & Scottie or Magic & Kareem?
Here once again for the Great Skap Journals. Watching Kobe and Shaq was the only time I lost my voice screaming at the TV...
Shaq at his peak, combined with an underrated young Kobe who became the best player in the league during the second title, and was making all NBA and all defensive teams during all three titles and beyond while playing with Shaq. Casuals are brainwashed by simply looking at Finals MVP but Kobe was so freaking good and Lakers win zero titles out of the three that won if it wasn't for Kobe! The dude was putting up ridiculous stats, played great defense and took over the 4th quarters when it mattered most. Greatest duo ever, and it was thanks to both of them - not Shaq carrying some "Robin". Get that out of your head. It was Superman and a young Batman taking over the league! Other superstars throughout history had multiple great teammates, Kobe just had one dominant teammate. As a result, it took away Kobe's chances of a Finals MVP, but by no means does it take anything away from the titles he won. It seems like you need just a little bit of brain to understand that and Kobe's greatness and impact, but many lack that brain for some odd reason. Miss you Kobe!!!
Yep and I've seen Shaq say any of those MVPs could've easily went 2 Kobe but Kobe didn't care he jus wanted 2 win. After the 3 peat when ppl started talking crap is when it got 2 him saying he was being carried blah blah blah. But we kno. man I miss those days
Kobe was arguably more important than Shaq during that 3 peat. Case and point: game 7 of the 2000 WCF (they lose and there's NO 3 PEAT and Shaq goes down as the BIGGEST under-achiever in NBA history).
In Game 7 of the 2000 WCF (FAR more difficult than the Finals), Kobe OUTSCORED and OUTREBOUNDED and OUTBLOCKED and OUTASSISTED Shaq (with LESS TURNOVERS). Literally: more points, more rebounds and more blocks and more assists and LESS turnovers than Shaq in the MOST IMPORTANT game of Shaqs career.
Intellectual simpletons: sHaQ cArRiEd kObE (but somehow Kobe ended up with MORE rings than Shaq despite having an inferior supporting cast without Shaq, than Shaq had without him).
@@feynmanschwingere_mc2270 Shaq was the best player of the 2000 WCF series. It can be said he carried Kobe and the team. In game 7 Kobe took 10 more shots than Shaq, even though Shaq shot more accurately, including free throws. Kobe was one of the playcallers, and it's up to him who takes more shots, not Shaq. Also, Shaq was better in the 4th quarter.
@@relicdad88 The stats in those finals series weren't close, and Shaq played better defense, so it wouldn't have made sense for Kobe to win any of the FMVPs.
"Shaq at his peak, combined with an underrated young Kobe who became the best player in the league during the second title, and was making all NBA and all defensive teams during all three titles and beyond while playing with Shaq."
Kobe became the best player in the league during the second title? You mean second title run, in 2009? That's 7 years later. Kobe wasn't the best player in the league in 2001 or 2002.
There's no way in hell that 2017 warriors teams were better than the 3 peat Lakers Squad.
Give me an unbiased, basketball reason as to why the 2017 warriors with KD steph klay draymond and iggy would lose in a 7 game series to this team
@@konodioda0962 if you watch carefully, Skap already breaks it down. Guarding Shaq with Dray is basically a field day. A healthy Kobe is basically unguardable. Not much 3 points. But if that lakers team was shooting 60% who needs 3 pointers. This Lakers team played with no defensive 3 secs ruling, which most teams nowadays benefits. Playing with no REAL rim protection.
@@themindgamer5084 I want to clarify that I think this Lakers team is the either the second or third greatest of all time. I agree with everything you said but 3 is more than 2. You said that if the Lakers are shooting 60% from 2 point range who needs 3s? Well what if the warriors are shooting 50% from 3? What if steph and KD both score 30+ on 50% efficency? Yes shaq and kobe are unguardable but so are the warriors, especially if the big 3 get hot.
@@konodioda0962 I think the most important thing is that "what if's don't matter and hold ZERO value in any conversion". All that matters is the numbers and facts from each to be compared. But you can't really compare different generations with different rules and officiating standards, its just simply an illogical fallacy to "what if" and trying to pin teams against each other in scenarios that don't exist in reality.
@@Goose8585 that's true but if u think abt it a lot of NBA debates are like that anyways, plus it's just fun to imagine the schemes and plays these teams would run against each other yk?
Great day for a Kobe and Shaq video!
Well, hold on, let me check.
Indeed, it is a day that ends with a "y"! ;)
If I have to pick someone to win a game to save my life is without a doubt Michael Jordan, but if I have to pick a team probably Shaq-Kobe Lakers its a pretty goddamm safe bet.
Except against that 2004 Piston's team that smashed the Lakers,they only won one game during that series. I think Jordan's teams that never lost a finals series is a much safer bet,plus winning 2 3-peats-TWICE.
@@user-be7tc2bd6e Brother I think if Kobe And Shaq are playing together And not trying to compete against each other they win against anyone, they just complimented each other so well. But I wont disagre with you Jordan IS always a safe bet. Im saying if anyone IS close to Mike IS Kobe but no one in Mike team was even the slightiest close to Shaq nor was ever a duo that compares to them in their prime .
@@ksks3640 Jordan and Pippen compare to Shaq and kobe in their prime,they won more nba titles to prove it. Both MJ and Pip were much better than either Shaq or kobe on the defensive end of the court. Tim Legler has said on broadcasts how he hated the Bull's full court press led by Pip,Rodman and Ron Harper.
not even a safe bet. not when they cant function as a team for the sake of it. they both have egos and aren't willing to sacrifice for the W. They both wanna be THE GUY but you gotta fault leadership. they should've made a choice FOR them.
It’s because people think Shaq did all the heavy lifting when indeed Kobe was averaging close to or more points than Shaq in the Western Conference playoffs. It was stated that Shaq carried the team til the 4th quarter then Kobe took over to close the game. Who did they have outside of them two? Fisher? Big Shot Bob? Mark Madsen? Definitely an All Time Great team because of both Shaq & Kobe
You are my favorite content creator man. I religiously watch every single one of your videos. It's very refreshing to see someone go to bat for Kobe the way you do. Most of these UA-camrs claim that Kobe Bryant is their favorite player but don't even put him in the same category as LeBron because it hurts their bottom dollar and their connections to possibly getting a spot in the industry. It's crazy how Jordan dominated his era Kobe dominated his and LeBron has had the success he's had but all the while Kobe gets left out of the top 10 and top five consistently even though he dominated the toughest defensive era in basketball.
"Great minds will always find opposition from mediocre spirits." - Albert Einstein
If you really do watch all his videos religiously. there hasn’t been a time where you have seriously thought that it’s strange that skap willing goes out of his way to talk about lebron even make claims witch end up being false. He is just a mirrored version of a bronsexual over 45% of his videos are about lebron specifically and countless others ones where he side disses him.
And to think some people actually tried to compare jokic and Murray to this Shaq & Kobe team😂😂😂
I would slap anybody who said that in my presence. Murray couldn't hold Kobe's jock strap.
So, one of the teams is significantly better. Which team?
@penkima4923 The Lakers by far for starters the Nuggets faced a 42 win Wolves team a 45 Suns team a 43 win Lakers team and a 44 win Heat team the 01 Lakers played a 5p win Blazers team a 55 win Kings team a 58 win Spurs team and a 56 win 76ers team and still went 15&1
@penkima4923 01 Lakers would have mopped the floor with those Nuggets as well they already faced similar players in 04 vs Rockets Yao and Francis were similar to Murray & Jokic and they 4-1'd them Yao would be much closer to Jokic as well if he played in this more modern era stat wise
@@terricarter9435 "The Lakers by far for starters the Nuggets faced a 42 win Wolves team..."
So, it was more about the other teammates, and not that much about Shaq and Kobe.
As a Californian and former Lakers fan, Skap is the man 👑
You make an impeccable and impregnable case here, Skap. 🤝
Keep in mind that the reason why Kobe felt the way he felt about Shaq was because Kobe couldn't understand why Shaq didn't have the fire for fitness or anywhere near the same work ethic. Can you imagine a player with Shaq's size the identical essence of Kobe Bryant!!!
He'd be in top shape first of all, and I'm not sure how close he'd be to the G.O.A.T. it'd be close, but this theoretical player would be looking in the rearview mirror to see how close any other guy behind him would be
Even with all of this proof, I still feel like the 2001 Lakers team is the best out of this 3 peat
Those that want to say Skap focuses on hating on LeBron, watch this video. He tells the legend of the 2001 Lakers and how legendary of a duo Shaq and Kobe are. R.I.P to a True Legend - the late Kobe Bryant 💜💛🏀
Come on, even though he occasionally makes videos about other players, you can’t deny that his main focus is lebron. Literally most of his videos are dedicated to him.
THANKS SKATT I AM OFFICIALLY THANKFUL FOR YOU BEING A REAL JOURNALIST DOING THE RESEARCH AND PUTTING THINGS IN CONTEXT WHICH IS SO IMPORTANT ALSO THEY WENT 12-3 IN THAT THREE PEAT MIKE AND SCOTTIE DIDN'T DO THAT IN NONE OF THOSE THREE PEATS.
They were definitely the best team I’ve ever watched and I saw the 95/96 Bulls as well. I was in high school during this Lakers season and we all HATED them dudes🤣. Shaq and Kobe just couldn’t keep the egos in check though. I believe Kobe and Duncan would’ve been a far more lasting duo from a personality and psychological standpoint and probably would’ve won 7-8 rings(maybe even more).
Kobe said he wished he played with Duncan and CP3.
@@soulofamerica It wouldn't have been fun for Duncan, not getting the ball as much. He would've probably left Kobe's team after a three-peat.
CP3 would've probably been great with Kobe.
The legend Skap, Attacks again! Thanks for another legendary video 🙂👌🏾
96 Bulls vs 2001 Lakers is a toss up. I am both a Jordan and Kobe Fan. I am troubled with this one.
96 Bulls for sure.
@kennethli8 in 7 ?
@@jkings7921
Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant 0 finals mvps a sidekick like Pippen 6 rings
2000 NBA finals
Lakers 4 Pacers 2
Kobe 15.6 ppg, 36.7% fg, 20.0% 3pt
Carried by
Shaq 38.0 ppg, 61.1% fg, 16 rebs
Finals Mvps (individual player)
Jordan 6
LeBron 4
Shaq 3
Kobe 2
Best player on teams championships
Jordan 6
LeBron 4
Kobe 2
🐐Jordan > LeBron > Shaq > Kobe
LeBron James PPG, FG%, 3pt%, TS%, REB, AST, STL, BLK higher then Kobe Bryant. So it's pretty clear LeBron the better player 🤭
LeBron 40,474 pts on 50.6% fg more points then Kobe 33,643 pts on 44.7% fg
LeBron 1st all time points
Kobe 1st all time missed shots
Bleacher report top 50 greatest NBA players all time
1. Michael Jordan
2. LeBron James
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
6. Shaquille O'Neal
7. Tim Duncan
14. Kobe Bryant
Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg only 32.9% 3pt most missed shots in the NBA history not even top 10 player all time that's why Bleacher report has him #14
Kobe 15 seasons he didn't win championship including being swept 3 times by Jazz 4-0 in 1998 playoffs and by Spurs 4-0 in 1999 playoffs and by Mavericks 4-0 in 2012 playoffs lol
@@StackhouseJerryAll good with final career stats and accolades. But shaq in his prime was a hell of a lot more dominant than Lebron. Same with Jordan in the first 3 peat. And I would take Kobe 2006-2009 over Lebron too
@@rodrigom7185
Goat 🐐 Jordan 6 fmvps and LeBron 4 fmvps and Shaq 3 fmvps all better players then yo boy friend Kobe 2
Thank you Skap for always defending Kobe, Shaq and the Lakers! 💯
Kobe and Shaq is my favorite basketball duo of all time!!!!!!! It was great to see these moments when they actually happened...There will never be another duo like them again! #SIPKOBE #memories
Kobe the 🐐
MJ is the only. As GenX...I seen both. MJ took over. Kobe next to Tim Duncan are distant second. Feeling don't count.
@@aircablenetwork8581 can’t compare kobe to Tim Duncan bro wym
PREACH!
Finals Mvps (individual player)
Jordan 6
LeBron 4
Shaq 3
Kobe 2
Best player on teams championships
Jordan 6
LeBron 4
Kobe 2
Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps and best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant a sidekick like Pippen 6 rings
🐐Jordan > LeBron > Shaq > Kobe
LeBron James PPG, FG%, 3pt%, TS%, REB, AST, STL, BLK higher then Kobe Bryant. So it's pretty clear LeBron the better player 🤭
LeBron 40,474 pts on 50.6% fg more points then Kobe 33,643 pts on 44.7% fg
LeBron 1st all time points
Kobe 1st all time missed shots
Bleacher report top 50 greatest NBA players all time
1. Michael Jordan
2. LeBron James
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
6. Shaquille O'Neal
7. Tim Duncan
14. Kobe Bryant
Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg only 32.9% 3pt most missed shots in the NBA history not even top 10 player all time that's why Bleacher report has him #14
Kobe 15 seasons he didn't win championship including being swept 3 times by Jazz 4-0 in 1998 playoffs and by Spurs 4-0 in 1999 playoffs and by Mavericks 4-0 in 2012 playoffs lol
Goat 🐐 Jordan > Copycat Kobe
Finals Mvps
Jordan 6✔️ (most all time)
Kobe 2
Rings
Jordan 6✔️
Kobe 5
League Mvps
Jordan 5✔️
Kobe 1
Total Mvps (league and finals)
Jordan 11✔️ (most all time)
Kobe 3
Scoring titles
Jordan 10✔️ (most all time)
Kobe 2
Steals leader
Jordan 3✔️ (1988, 1990, 1993)
Kobe 0
All defensive first team selections
Jordan 9 in 15 years 60% ✔️
Kobe 9 in 20 years 45%
Defensive player of year
Jordan 1✔️ (1988)
Kobe 0
Career Steals
Jordan 2,514✔️
Kobe 1,944
Career blocks
Jordan 893✔️
Kobe 640
Seasons played
Kobe 20
Jordan 15
Points per game (regular season)
Jordan 30.12 ✔️ (1st all time)
Kobe 24.99
Player efficiency rating
Jordan 1st all time ✔️
Kobe 24th all time
Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg career
Seasons average +30 ppg
Jordan 8✔️
Kobe 3
Seasons average +30 ppg on 50% fg
Jordan 5✔️
Kobe 0
3point% (NBA finals)
Jordan 36.8%✔️
Kobe 31.4%
Playoff game winning buzzer beaters
Jordan 3✔️
Kobe 1
Game trying or go ahead shots in 4th quarter last 24 seconds to take lead or tie
Jordan 9-18 fg for 50%✔️
Kobe 7-28 fg for 25%
Jordan way better player then Kobe
Bleacher report NBA top 50 best players all time
1. Michael Jordan
2. LeBron James
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
6. Shaquille O'Neal
7. Tim Duncan
14. Kobe Bryant
1991 NBA finals
Bulls 4 Lakers 1
First ring
Jordan 31.2 pts and 55.8% fg and 50% 3pt and 6.6 rebs and 11.4 ast and finals mvp
2000 NBA finals
Lakers 4 Pacers 2
First ring
Kobe 15.6 ppg, 36.7% fg, 20% 3pt
Carried by
Shaq 38.0 pts, 61.1% fg, 16 rebs
Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps and best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant 2nd option
Jordan 6 times best player on his teams titles more then Kobe 2 times
2004 NBA finals
Pistons 4 Lakers 1
Kobe 22 pts and 38% fg and 17% 3pt and locked down by Tyshaun Prince
2004 NBA finals
Shaq O'Neal 26 pts and 63% fg and 10 rebs vs Detroit Pistons
Ayeeee my Lakers!!
However, I think the 72 win bulls are better.
Prime Kobe AND Prime Shaq?! I will take 2001 LA over the field...
@@skap_attackOkay, I do not completely agree, but I cannot complain either.
Wait I thought prime kobe was 2005 to 2008, so how could he be in his prime during this time
Phil Jackson vs Phil Jackson!? 😅 Still , Bulls are better, Rodman was a nightmare for Shaq...
@@skap_attackKobe isn't guarding Mj in '96, try again...
Pippen / Rodman are destroying the Lakers forwards on both sides, & as for Shaq that same tandem can slow him down enough to stamp them out in 6gms 😂 & did I mention their sharpshooter off the bench (Kukoc / Kerr / Buchler)
Shaq & Kobe Bryant greatest team Lakers 90”👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿
I'm very close to Skap's opinion. As a Bulls fan, I was somewhat pissed off during the 1999-2000 season because I understood those Lakers had the potential to three-peat and even four-peat, and that didn't feel good right after the Bulls' three-peats. I was really mad after WCF Game 7, where the Blazers blew a 15-point lead with 10 minutes to go in the 4th; now I laugh with that Pippen's debacle, things change. The Shaq-Kobe Lakers' full potential was seen in 2001: terrifying and superhuman, and there was no sign of vulnerability. So, yes, it could be the best team ever. Although, already during 2001-02, they had begun to crumble because of their internal strife and I believe they didn't fully deserve the third title. Even Kobe said Sacramento was better. Then, the show ended with the clear-cut losses to San Antonio and Detroit in 2003 and 2004. They are not the most remarkable dynasty, but they indeed could be the greatest team ever at their peak.
well if they crumble because of ego then they aren't a good team. the bulls were FORCED to break up. Im still putting the 96 bulls above the 01 lakers just because they have Jordan. and rodman is gonna cause trouble for shaq LOL rodman would likely tickle shaq or something crazy
Kobe was arguably more important than Shaq during that 3 peat. Case and point: game 7 of the 2000 WCF (they lose and there's NO 3 PEAT and Shaq goes down as the BIGGEST under-achiever in NBA history).
In Game 7 of the 2000 WCF (FAR more difficult than the Finals), Kobe OUTSCORED and OUTREBOUNDED and OUTBLOCKED and OUTASSISTED Shaq (with LESS TURNOVERS). Literally: more points, more rebounds and more blocks and more assists and LESS turnovers than Shaq in the MOST IMPORTANT game of Shaqs career.
Intellectual simpletons: sHaQ cArRiEd kObE (but somehow Kobe ended up with MORE rings than Shaq despite having an inferior supporting cast without Shaq, than Shaq had without him).
Glad you mentioned the 1985-1986 Celtics!
The 72-win Bulls team is the greatest team.
Very compelling arguments. You are the best.👍🏾👊🏾
200-01 Shaq-Kobe Lakers were unquestionably the greatest NBA Playoff Team in history.
I agree people forget that they beat 4 50 wins team every team they beat had two all start in the 2001 finals they beat the MVP DPOY and the six man while going 16-1
Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant 0 finals mvps a sidekick like Pippen 6 rings
2000 NBA finals
Lakers 4 Pacers 2
Kobe 15.6 ppg, 36.7% fg, 20.0% 3pt
Carried by
Shaq 38.0 ppg, 61.1% fg, 16 rebs
Finals Mvps (individual player)
Jordan 6
LeBron 4
Shaq 3
Kobe 2
Best player on teams championships
Jordan 6
LeBron 4
Kobe 2
🐐Jordan > LeBron > Shaq > Kobe
LeBron James PPG, FG%, 3pt%, TS%, REB, AST, STL, BLK higher then Kobe Bryant. So it's pretty clear LeBron the better player 🤭
LeBron 40,474 pts on 50.6% fg more points then Kobe 33,643 pts on 44.7% fg
LeBron 1st all time points
Kobe 1st all time missed shots
Bleacher report top 50 greatest NBA players all time
1. Michael Jordan
2. LeBron James
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
6. Shaquille O'Neal
7. Tim Duncan
14. Kobe Bryant
Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg only 32.9% 3pt most missed shots in the NBA history not even top 10 player all time that's why Bleacher report has him #14
Kobe 15 seasons he didn't win championship including being swept 3 times by Jazz 4-0 in 1998 playoffs and by Spurs 4-0 in 1999 playoffs and by Mavericks 4-0 in 2012 playoffs lol
@@StackhouseJerry Lebron most playoffs loses all time most committed trunovers all time most miss shots all time only player to be swept in three finals all time 7th worst +/- in the NBA finals history -86 second worst NBA finals record 4-6 all time never was part of a dynasty or three peat in 20011 NBA finals he choke avg 17pts three turnover shooting 47.8 percent 32.1 from.three
@@jjohnson4013
Team record proof you don't know basketball 🏀 not a individual player record what about Reja Bell closelined and smacked Kobe in his mouth and after that he blew a 3-1 lead and lost 4-3 to Suns in 2006 playoffs lol
LeBron James PPG, FG%, 3pt%, TS%, REB, AST, STL, BLK higher then Kobe Bryant. So it's pretty clear LeBron the better player 🤭
LeBron 40,474 pts on 50.5% fg more points then Kobe 33,643 pts on 44.7% fg
LeBron 1st all time points
Kobe 1st all time missed shots
goat 🐐 Jordan 6 fmvps and LeBron 4 fmvps best players on all they teams championships unlike Kobe 2 fmvps
Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps and best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant a sidekick like Pippen 6 rings
Jordan > LeBron > Shaq > Kobe
Bleacher report top 50 greatest NBA players all time
1. Michael Jordan
2. LeBron James
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
6. Shaquille O'Neal
7. Tim Duncan
14. Kobe Bryant
Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg only 32.9% 3pt most missed shots in the NBA history not even top 10 player all time that's why Bleacher report has him #14
Kobe Bryant 15 losses seasons he didn't win ring including getting swept 3 times by Jazz 4-0 in 1998 playoffs and by Spurs 4-0 in 1999 playoffs and by Mavericks 4-0 in 2011 playoffs last I checked he doesn't have 20 championships
You got Kobe D ick n yo A ss
@@jjohnson4013
2004 NBA finals
Pistons 4 Lakers 1
Kobe 22 ppg on 38% fg and 17% 3pt what about that ? Lol
Kobe 41% fg only 31% 3pt for a career in NBA finals building bricks lol
Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and carried Kobe Bryant to 3 sidekick rings lol
Goat 🐐 Jordan 6 finals mvps and LeBron 4 finals mvps best players on all they teams championships unlike Kobe 2 finals mvps can never say that 🤣
Duncan 3 finals mvps, 2 league mvps better player then Kobe 2 finals mvps, 1 league mvp
Yo boy friend Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg only 32.9% 3pt most OVERRATED player in NBA history not even top 10 player all time that's what his stats say
Kobe is the GOAT 😤😤
I'm with ya I can see it he's got a much better case then a lot of these dudes the media be throwing around.
As a life long Lakers fan and KOBE being my favorite player since I was 10... That 2008 lose to the Cs will always gutt me that KOBE didn't 3peat 2 times like MJ.
I'm a Lakers fan, but must simply admit that the 2008 Celtics were better.
Sacramento Kings got robbed in the playoffs. But! Regardless, still better than any of LeChoke Blames' championships by lightyears.
Always gotta make it about lebron 🤡
Probably your best work to date
The 25 and 1 record was a must win to maintain as a high seed. Throughout history, teams that clinch their conference early will coast through the remaining part of the season.
I mean, their high seed was getting them a 50 win opponent in the first round. I don't think seeding mattered too much in the West that year.
Greatest one two punch EVER small man big man combo!
I love how people are already shitting on you for the title but couldn’t have even watched the video yet considering this vid came out 3 mins ago lol
LOL most are just crushing me as it pertains to the 96 Bulls. But anyone who knows me or my content knows I have Jordan as the EASY GOAT. BUT, I also have Kobe EASY top 5 all time. Put him on a team in 2001 with PRIME Shaq who is arguably the most dominant player in league history? There is not one two punch ever that got remotely close to this caliber. In 95, the Shaq Penny Magic beat the Jordan Bulls in 6 in the East Semis. Yes, the Bulls came back in 96 and dusted them. BUT, Shaq's 2001 version was substantially better than he was in 95. And Kobe in 01 clears Penny in 95. This would be a great matchup. But I am taking LA.
@@skap_attack I have Kobe top two LOL
@@skap_attack Shaq is not the most dominant player in league history. Wilt would have Shaq for lunch without even breaking a sweat.
Same old Lebron fan boy bot NPCs ready to copy and paste in the comments as soon as a Skap video appears
@@skap_attackI think you are forgetting one key item about the 96 Bulls, and that is Dennis Rodman. We even saw a glimpse of that matchup when Shaq went to the lakers, where rodman was able to completely shutdown prime Shaq to just 4 points. Not saying the Lakers have no shot, but i do give the 96 bulls a slight edge on winning a series.
No argument with this video. Great work as usual.
Age 27 Shaq reported to 1999 Lakers Training Camp at 320 pounds and likely played at 315 pounds in 1999-2000 Season. Age 21 Kobe was clearly his sidekick. In his most dominant shape, Shaq earned Season MVP & Finals MVP.
Shaq was a little late getting foot surgery and reported to 2000 Lakers Training Camp around 335 pounds. Thus, Kobe carried the Lakers for their first third of the season until Shaq dropped about 15 pounds in season. If Shaq was in shape the entire season, he would have earned a 2nd Season MVP. Kobe performed best in the 2001 Western Conference Playoffs but Dominant Shaq reemerged and Kobe wisely deferred to him in the 2001 Finals. Shaq earned his 2nd Finals MVP.
Shaq was getting off-season surgery and reported to 2001 Lakers Training Camp around 350 pounds. That deepened his rift with Kobe because it forced Kobe to carry the team until Shaq lost 15 pounds again. Hence, Kobe & Shaq were Dual Alphas in 2001-02 Season. In the Finals, Kobe shot less to conserve more energy disrupting 1st Team All-NBA Jason Kidd. Shaq exploited 3 Journeymen Centers on the Nets to put up monster numbers.
Shaq reported to 2002 Lakers Training Camp around 360 pounds. Though he lost about 15 pounds again, he never got in good shape. Age 24 Kobe became the Alpha (3rd Season MVP vote shares). Age 30 Shaq told the media he was still the Alpha, but his being out of shape was the main reason the Lakers lost to the Spurs in the 2003 Conference Playoffs. Kobe got in Colorado trouble that summer.
Shaq was VERY late getting foot surgery and reported to 2003 Lakers Training Camp around 380 pounds. Though he likely lost 20 pounds in 2003-04 Season, It pissed off Kobe that he was flying to Colorado for court dates on the regular while Shaq remained grossly overweight. Kobe didn't want to pass as much to that version of Shaq. Eventually, Coach Jackson asked Kobe to pass more to Shaq to prevent "Losing Him" in the Playoffs. NET: Kobe should have fed Overweight Shaq more to win 1 more game in the 2004 Finals.
If Shaq weighed 330 pounds, Kobe would have passed more to let Shaq dominate Ben Wallace. That Lakers would have won the 2004 Chip.
Tell me you HATE Kobe without telling me you HATE Kobe. LIES. Kobe OUTPLAYED Shaq when it ACTUALLY mattered: over and over and over again.
Kobe was arguably more important than Shaq during that 3 peat. Case and point: game 7 of the 2000 WCF (they lose and there's NO 3 PEAT and Shaq goes down as the BIGGEST under-achiever in NBA history).
In Game 7 of the 2000 WCF (FAR more difficult than the Finals), Kobe OUTSCORED and OUTREBOUNDED and OUTBLOCKED and OUTASSISTED Shaq (with LESS TURNOVERS). Literally: more points, more rebounds and more blocks and more assists and LESS turnovers than Shaq in the MOST IMPORTANT game of Shaqs career.
Intellectual simpletons: sHaQ cArRiEd kObE (but somehow Kobe ended up with MORE rings than Shaq despite having an inferior supporting cast without Shaq, than Shaq had without him).
@@feynmanschwingere_mc2270 Not hating Kobe. Based on my criteria with context, I rank #1 MJ, # Kareem, #3 Kobe, #4 Duncan, #5 Magic, #6 LeBron, #7 Russell, #8 Wilt, #9 Shaq, #10 Bird though Curry is chasing #10.
Damn skap honestly it would have been great to see that lakers team play the 95-96 bulls team in there prime. Love your takes. Waiting on the next video.
But who would Phil Jackson coach??
I get that you love Kobe, but the 96' Bulls are far superior to the Kobe/Shaq Lakers and they didn't need Tim Donaghy to get their 3 peat
Do you not love Kobe??
That Kings series is a stain in my opinion.
Shocked you don’t have your GOAT Hakeem and the 1994 or 1995 Rockets as the best team ever
I am talking 2001. They were 15-1 that year. Ended the season on an 8 game win streak. Went 24-1 to end the season with their only loss in overtime of the NBA Finals. And they played a harder postseason path than any team ever outside of the 95 Rockets. The 95 Rockets tho weren't remotely as dominant. These Lakers not only went 15-1 in the playoffs, their average margin of differential was 12.8. Second best ever. Again, it came against the second hardest run of opponents ever. This is pretty easy case TBH.
Check ft attempts in Bulls series through their three peat
Bulls in 1996 win 72 games
Bulls in 1997 win 69 games w/ Kukoc and Rodman playing only 52 and 55 games.
Bulls in 1998 win 62 games w/ Pippen playing only 44 games and Rodman 57 games.
Michael Jordan could have led 3 straight teams to 70 plus wins and a 2nd 3peat. No one would beat those healthy 96 Bulls. No one.
Best teams of all time
1-1996 Bulls
2-1997 Bulls
3-1992 Bulls
4-1993 Bulls
5-2001 Lakers
u dum
Bro just casually forgot the 2017 Warriors, 1971 Bucks, 1972 Lakers, "Fo, Fo, Fo" Sixers, Bird's Celtics, Showtime Lakers, The Heatles, and the 2014 Spurs
@@calebvanberkom5571 Those teams would probably be my next 5 teams minus the 2014 Spurs they are nothing special all time wise not sure were that came from would out 2005/2007 Spurs over as best Spurs team
@@calebvanberkom5571 Actually would have put 1991 Bulls in there at No6 probably
@@davis2k1234 Least obvious Michael Jordan glazer be like
They are the most devastating duo I ever watched. Lakers Shaq alone can demoralize an opposing team.
There’s no way that 96 Bulls Team is beating that Lakers Squad
Buggin’ 😂😂
I agree. Kobe in 2001 was closer to Jordan in 96 than ANY of the front court players for Chicago was to Shaq. Remember in 95, Shaq and Penny beat Jordan's Bulls in 6 games in the East semis. Shaq in 2001 was MUCH better than his 95 version. And Kobe in 2001 was superior to the Penny 95 version. The fact people think the 96 Bulls would destroy these Lakers is laughable.
@@skap_attack I believe it would be a close series. Like REALLY close. It will be game 7 and Jordan has the ball they are down by one. Jordan would ice the game because he is THAT clutch. You underestimate Jordan a little but other than that I agree with you
@@push_eghck
Finals Mvps (individual player)
Jordan 6
LeBron 4
Shaq 3
Kobe 2
Best player on teams championships
Jordan 6
LeBron 4
Kobe 2
Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps and best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant a sidekick like Pippen 6 rings
🐐Jordan > LeBron > Shaq > Kobe
LeBron James PPG, FG%, 3pt%, TS%, REB, AST, STL, BLK higher then Kobe Bryant. So it's pretty clear LeBron the better player 🤭
LeBron 40,474 pts on 50.6% fg more points then Kobe 33,643 pts on 44.7% fg
LeBron 1st all time points
Kobe 1st all time missed shots
Bleacher report top 50 greatest NBA players all time
1. Michael Jordan
2. LeBron James
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
6. Shaquille O'Neal
7. Tim Duncan
14. Kobe Bryant
Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg only 32.9% 3pt most missed shots in the NBA history not even top 10 player all time that's why Bleacher report has him #14
Kobe 15 seasons he didn't win championship including being swept 3 times by Jazz 4-0 in 1998 playoffs and by Spurs 4-0 in 1999 playoffs and by Mavericks 4-0 in 2012 playoffs lol
@@StackhouseJerry LeFraud... please stop.
Shaq and Kobe definitely kept the hype for me and many others after MJ said goodbye.
well this is one hell of a glossified perspective of this particular team... they for sure are not the greatest what so ever of all historical championship teams that have existed, top 10 sure but their are 5 other teams that would take this one to 6 or 7 games and beat them due to certain plyers mentality during that time Skap is choosing to ignore.. and when it comes to 01 Lakers vs. 96 Bulls it all comes down to who pays David Stern enough money to sway the refs to give the edge to which ever team because no matter how you jock sniffers feel that 01 lakers team benefited from that in the playoffs, ESPICALLY Against Sacramento, from the one way enforcement of foul calling
2001 Lakers DESTROYED the Kings. Swept the entire Western Conference. Get your history straight. 01 and 02 Lakers were two different teams.
@@Brownflash OH Right it was the 02 team that was brought to the brink and Horry made the shot that took them to gm 7 correct?
@@Brownflash regardless if that's the case I'm still not putting them over most other Historical teams in a 7 game series
@@justice2120
Shut up man. You confused 2 seasons, now shut up and go sit in the corner.
Ur thinking of the 2002 lakers vs Kings series.
Best team i have ever seen
you didnt see the 72-10 bulls then. lol
@@TowDow3 you are correct Sir. I didn’t :)
Sorry but 3:30 ❌. We dont give credit to Donaghy rings here. Shaq Kobe Lakers are not among the all time greatest teams. I love Kobe and Shaq but they simply underachieved together.
I remember by the NBA Finals that year, I was walking around with a vacuum cleaner instead of a broom because the Lakers were so dominant! I get their regular season record wasn't all that great but a sweep sweep, sweep, followed by a gentleman sweep is (DAMN IT!) dominance! Especially against 4 50 win teams!
Anyways, as always, great flipping video! And I can't wait to see what you got coming leading up to Kobe day!
Excellent work, Mr. Attack! Yours is one of the few channels I have notifications on so I can watch him as soon as you pop them, thank you!
The 2001 Lakers and the 2009 Lakers are my two favorite championship teams.
I'm big MJ Bulls fan, but I agree Shaq & Kobe Lakers the greatest team ever.
Because nobody could stop Kobe or Shaq, for the Bulls only MJ was unstoppable.
Skap ignoring the Anthony Edward’s shenanigans 😢😢😢 get on his ahh skap
Magic just came out and said Kobe belongs in the goat debate. Do a video on how the greats hold Kobe higher then the media
You make a good argument. They are in my top 7 all time teams for sure. Not sure about the 1 spot Mr Attack!
Oh how fun it would be to see the 2001 Lakers go against the 96 or 97 bulls. I would like your insight on the 2004 series where my pistons shocked the lakers in 5 and almost won in 4
A-Fuckin-Men!! Man do I miss Kobe!! Love that dude!!
I still remember watching my Kings lose a close game to Kobe and Shaq.
First time I see this guy miss on a video 🤷🏻♂️ Still love the channel and content
I like that 3 peat Lakers Team, they have the most undeniable X factor in Shaquille Oneal in Prime with a undouble teamed Kobe, just nasty. Loaded with veterans all over the roster guided by the GOAT coach. Lethal Squad. Them the 96 Bulls, and the 17 Warriors all legit teams in this convo
Shaq and Kobe. Im taking it
💥💥💥 THANK YOU SKAP 💥💥💥
Thx for pointing out how much TOUGHER the WEST was then... especially 1999-2010..... LeBrick would NEVER see the Finals in the West..NEVER.....he's struggling NOW when it's half as powerful......he CAN'T make it to a legitimate Finals in the WEST!!
LeBalco excuses here: _________________
It was a very good team, regardless of Shaq and Kobe. People underestimate this legendary roster that played perfectly together...
That Lakers Playoff run was incredible. Iverson went ballistic to win one game. He was so pumped, I remembered watching but it did not last long. Lakers was too dominant.
Yep who they face that year was it blazers kings spurs then Philly or kings blazers spurs then Philly either way 1 loss thru whole playoffs is ridiculous they were jus 2 good n I think fisher n horry hit couple of crazy last sec shots thru those playoffs if I can remember correctly been awhile off top of my head lol
The good ol days.
Shaq and kobe lakers made ball for me. Nba on nbc matinees...
Lakers - low key all time great team!! Keep cooking Skap
-Russell's Celtic
-Warriors with Wilt
-Bucks with Kareem & Oscar
-72 Lakers
-76s with Dr J and Moses
-86 Celtics
-87 Lakers
-Bad Boys
-96 Bulls
-00 Lakers
-Warriors with KD
These are the contenders for the greatest team
You forgot the 2014 Spurs and 2013 Heatles
Thinking about how much more dominant Shaq could have been if he just simply stayed in shape like Kobe and Phil told him to is what keeps me up at night.
Yea man if he was as hungry as Bean was I'd assume they at least get 6 together but it is what it is they are underrated thx 2 the lemedia nowadays but we kno we saw it only 1 loss in the finals in a overtime game thats insane. What was it 16-1 I dnt recall a team steamrolling great competition like they did.
I hated the Kobe/Shaq Lakers so much back then, because I always felt like Shaq was so dirty and hardly ever got called for offensive fouls. I'd also root for the Kings or Blazers when they played. But as soon as Shaq left Kobe was my guy.
The lakers 15-1 in the playoffs is insane
Kobe Bryant is the best basketball player we've ever seen. Forget nostalgia. This guy was insane for 20 yrs
Don’t forget who beat that Shaq and Kobe team with both guys basically at their prime together in 2003. No excuses mate.
ngl the 2017-18 warriors are smashing everyone
Conference Finals: 4-3 (home: 2-1; road: 2-2)
They couldn't even smash Houstin
Great argument... well presented!
Skap, phenomenal job. The Shaq and Kobe Lakers get far too LITTLE love. Too many media fans, I mean scams focus too much on the fake narrative that Shaq carried Kobe and they overlook that this team 3peated. Kobe was a superstar player on a team that did something that only one other team in the modern era has ever done.
I know the 96 Bulls lost 3 playoff games, and 2001 Lakers only lost one, but the two losses to Seattle were games the Bulls could've won, if they didn't want to win it in Chicago. And their regular season record was much better. And they had Jordan.
The 96 Bulls were certainly a better reg season team.
Trouble is, nobody even slowed down that 2001 Lakers team in the post-season (even a little). The single game they lost was after a 9-day layoff - due to sweeping the #1 seeded Spurs in the WCF.
Doesn't matter 😂😂😂competition that Bulls had in 1996 wasn't nearly as tough as Lakers's in 2001. Literally Lakers beat one 50+ winning team, 2 55+ winning teams and one 60+ winning team in that play off. And if we are talking about what could've happen, honestly Kobe struggled in that first game, didn't play as well as all games before and Lakers stilk lost in obertime so they could also win that game and be unbeatable in these play off so stop it with those could've, should've bullshit... The point is, Lakers played against team who won 61 games that year, San Antonio Spurs with the greatest power foward of all time Tim Duncan snd great role players. Than in finals they played against Philadephia. They had Iverson who was MVP that season, Dikembe Mutombo who was DPOY and the best 6th man. Tell me, who played nice in that finals run from Sonix except Kemp??? Kemp literally carried them in those finals and all other simply weren't players on that level... Philadephia and San Antonio were without a doubt better than Seatle from 96 and any other team that Bulls faced that year.
@hristijandimitrovski8664 Payton was good in the finals. Schrempf underperformed; his shot wasn't really on, and that was his only move. Hawkins and Perkins played well. I think the 96 Sonics team would have beaten the 2001 Philadelphia team.
@@horumgrombo6519 and you are wrong😂they wouldn't beat him because only Iverson averaged 1/3 of their points per game in finals 😂and when you add Dikembe who can guard Kemp who was their best player, other role players are also better than Sonic's role players...
I'm rolling with the 96' Bulls
And youd lose
That 01 team was ridiculous once the postseason started. The layoff and not taking the sixers seriously caught them. Plus Philly played their butts off and AI was insane too. If shaq and Kobe could have coexisted better they could likely have won 5-6 together and Kobe may have won 1-3 more after shaq retired.
West and Wilt also did great together.
Kobe was at his best in that role on this team
That's true I use that an argument against LeBron James fans, and then you just made me realize that the Philadelphia 76ers, are actually better than we gave him credit for.
This lakers team had it all and I’m a fan of the bulls but they probably would run through any team they had it all
I think you have to put Kobe up there, closer to the top two than the top three 🫣
A team with the two best players at the same time was the 2020 Lakers. Backcourt Caruso and front court AD
The best basketball i have ever seen. Was that lakers team
This Lakers team was a great team with a hard playoff run, but the best team in NBA history is still the 1996 Chicago Bulls.The Bulls had the best record 72-10 and won the championship with a playoff record of 15-3 against a stacked Easter Conference (Heat, Knicks, Majic, and Supersonics). Not to mention that the Bulls had a much weaker team lineup overall in comparison to the Lakers. Great vid though!
The 2001 Lakers were the best team ever.
The Celtics in 58-59. Cousy was the MVP in '57, Russell in '58 and they, together with Bill Sharman, were First Team All-NBA in '59. Three First Team All-NBA players, of that year, in the same team? A team which also included three MORE future Hall of Famers in K. C. Jones, Sam Jones and Frank Ramsey.
Yes, they played in a different era, with significantly different rules (no carrying, no traveling, no charging, no 3-point line, etc) but that's a LOT of talent in one team. Sure, the Cous was fresh into his thirties, and Sharman was 32, but they were both still in their prime, as them making First Team All-NBA proves.
Relative to their respective leagues, that's not a question, that's a certainty. Would they win against Shaq and Kobe's Lakers...what rules would they be playing under? Because that's the sole deciding factor, to me.
Nor specific order-
86 Celtics
‘14 spurs
95 bulls
2000 lakers
2016 warriors
Any one of these teams could win a ship in any era against any team
Even each other. Also, that 2021 bucks team is highly underrated. I’d say they could be in the mix
Seriously if they stayed together and worked their relationship like magic and Kareem , they definitely would have won more rings . Let shaq be the main man for several years and then let Kobe take over after that exactly like magic and Kareem did. If they did that 8 rings or more. For sure. 2000s would’ve been theirs like bulls owned the 90s
82-83 Sixers is the greatest single-season team of all time imo
I have the 72 wins bulls in the top spot so i disagree.
But the video has valid points as always.
Great job again.
You make a good case
The Kobe hater in the comments trying so hard today.
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