You're saying basically everything I've been saying and thinking for over a decade. I love seeing that I'm not the only one who saw Kobe this way. He's definitely top 3 in my book. To me, the most objective metric for judging player's greatness is looking at how many seasons a player A) was All-NBA 1st or 2nd team while B) being All-Defense, while C) being an All-Star (preferably a starter), and also D) while winning the NBA Championship. This means the player was in the top 2 at his position on BOTH Offense and Defense, was voted by fans/coaches as one of the top 2 stars at his position, while at the same time his individual ability translated to the highest level of team success in the same season, by winning the NBA title. There are only 2 players in history to have done this 5 times or more. Those are Kobe and MJ.
I LOVE the way you broke that down. And I agree totally with this take. Kobe is HIGHLY underrated. Kobe has 27 cumulative all league selections between all nba and all nba defense. Absurd. While going to seven finals, winning 5 and being top 4 in scoring (both regular season and playoffs). How is that resume not an easy top 3 all time?
No doubt. And Hakeem’s 1994 run is better than any of Kobe. BUT, I’m not looking at one title. Show me a run where you win multiple. Hakeem did and his run is second best ever to me behind this Kobe run. Had Hakeem not gotten Drexler for the 95 title that would be number one over this run by Kobe.
But not as impressive as Kobe's. Go back and look at that 2010-11 Mavs lineup. They had a way better team than LA had the year they won the title and a lot of the bench was starters on other NBA teams. Kobe didn't have that at all.
@@wizmanballin8498 man people don't realize how great that Mavs team was constructed because they didn't have a bunch of household names...well neither did the Lakers. Before Pau joined the Lakers he was a top 15 big in the league at best.
LeBron's a great player but it's ridiculous how his most passionate fans will have you believe Pippen and Pau Gasol were greater individual players than Wade, Bosh, Kyrie, Love, and AD.
Exactly right. Gasol was akin to the third option on all of lebrons title teams except the bubble. But AD was closer to Shaq level in that title for Lebron. Suffice it to say, Kobe won much harder rings than Lebron.
Cmon you can’t compare pippen to pau fucking gasol bro pippen was a doggg to man he just never got the credit he deserved because he was on mjs team and cmon how you really finna outshine Michael fucking Jordan but pippen came the fucking real closest he ever could have and god damn proved he’s worth for those 3 peats and how they wouldn’t be able to do it without him they deff could of won a few championships without him but hell not no 2 3 peats without pippen he was putting up just as good enough numbers then mjs sometimes he took over certain points in the game where they really needed it and mj can kinda of lay off the gas Pedal abit people have to start giving pippen the credit he deserves man just case mj won those mvps finals mvps in those runs MJ always said to the media every time that it wasn’t just him Scottie was a key factor in why mj aconplished all that and I respect Jordan for always bringing that up every time he got interviewed about all those accomplishments making sure Scottie got recognized also but the world still didn’t give asf 💯😂🤦♂️💀💀cause they were always so in AWE and star struck by mj and just being in his presence ffs all eyes were on MJ💯
You forgot to mention Kobes shooting hand injury in the Celtics finals win. Initially, the diagnosis was Kobe could miss up to six weeks, but Kobe was having none of that, stating: “My current thinking is to give my finger some treatment and rest for a few days, and hope I can still continue to compete at a high level after that rest,” Bryant said. Man never complained. Never brought it up. Just went and kicked their asses after that. GOAT SHIT. Keep showing these youtube highlight reel kids real NBA. I never missed a game. They literally just watch highlights. Kobe was unbelievable. Prime Kobe would work prime mj, and Bird. The real 3 Goats. I wish we had a magical time machine just to see them play 21 in their primes. Im really liking Luka and Donavan though. Young boys bring me hope. Id love Ja to be here if he ever pulls his head out of his ass. Kid has the mentality on court and is a follower off court.
@@steviechampagne Only 35 mpg. 28.3 PPG. 48.4 FG% 38.6 3 pt% 1.5 steals last season. Youre a clown. You live near cinci we can 1v1 and I will work you. Keep watching highlights lil boy. The clown emote is for Trolls like you. You think Ja is better than Donavan? Ja ever dropped 71? Didnt think so.
Young 2-way players are more impressive for me tbh not a fan of spamming 3s then a liability on def because on offense, it's always make or miss and a lot of times, it's a miss.
Yeah injuries were.a big part of that 2010 run that should have been included in this video. Also the 6 game winners in the regular season without which the Lakers would have been just one win away from missing the playoffs.
The funny thing about that title run is people forget that Kobe was at wits end with the office decisions the season before and the league knew Kobe couldn't contend with what he had. I think at that point they had all chips in on Lebron and he wasn't coming through so they threw Kobe a bone and Kobe ran with it. They threw Lebron 3 bones and he choked on all of them.
Stern was so mad that in 2012 he had the old ass lakers playing back to backs in the playoffs against OKC not to even mention stopping the Chris Paul trade
Even after going through one of the toughest eras in the NBA that Kobe Bryant went through he still has not needed to build super teams and join other guys teams to win games and championships but these clowns of modern times want to put LeFraudulent James over a real goat like Kobe 🤦🏿♂️. Rip 💛Kobe the real goat Bryant💜
Kobe is the most underrated and disrespected all time great we have going in basketball at this time. Quite frankly it’s just blasphemy to have him any lower than top 5. He’ll always be in my top 3 🙏❤️🐍
How is LeBron a fraud man he will be hated forever by the buthurt old heads but this hate won't last forever once these new generation of kids grow up things will change appreciate every each of athlete.
@@SICKOCL Old Heads remember competition. You can cop out and take the easy way, but don't expect us not to notice and call you the greatest. It's not gonna happen. That's the root of it. Not personal. Just don't like b*tch moves. And it's worse when you try to insult our intelligence like we didn't notice what you did.
Kobe was robbed of so many league MVPs someone needs to arrested. The fact he led LA to 3 finals in a row from 208-2010 and 2 titles, with 1 mvp award is mind boggling. King James getting MVP while playing in a trash conference is embarrassing!
Kobe should have one of Nash mvp for sure. The problem was he was black listed after the Colorado charges. If that did not happen, he would easily have 3 mvps.
Kobe misses the playoffs in 05 and was the 7th seed in 06 so no he shouldn't have. I've never seen another players maps disrespected like nash. Mvp dint mean best player
@@chauvintookaknee4blm268 brodi I'm still salty about that team breaking up.... And they replace the "old analysts" with not jj Reddick or some up and coming analyst, but Doris burke?????? I love Doris but come tf on....
"When I played one of the things I had to learn was to get the best out of my teammates," Bryant said. "Most people think it's a simple thing. Pass them the ball. That's not how you make guys better, you have to really affect their behavior. -Kobe Bryant Lebron never learned this....hence why he STAT pads and teams up with all stars Hence why team USA players got on KOBES workout schedule he "affected their behavior" thus making them better
THIS is a GREAT point. People think Lebron makes his teammates better because he averages more assists. Look at what Lebron did to Chris Bosh, D Wade, Kevin Love, Russell Westbrook. He actually makes teammates WORSE. Kobe took a slightly an above average to a very good NBA player in Pau Gasol and made him a HALL OF FAMER. THAT is making your teammates better.
@@skap_attack no we think he makes teammates better because once he leaves a team that team is never heard from again. And the new team he joins is an instant contender...Kobe led team to 2 chips lebron has done that 4 times and no matter who hes played with he has been the man
@@naturalprinciples8520it's biased but accurate nothing he said was false or a lie but it is def a biased pro Kobe video, which is fine since there's so much anti Kobe narratives out there.
Your combination of sarcasm, dry wit, and humor, makes this the funniest NBA channel on UA-cam. Appreciate the hardwork, and leaning into who you actually are, instead of playing it safe. Well done.
Kobe always had tough competition to overcome in the West and did his best work in the WCF destroying Duncan in 08, proved superior to Melo 2009, and torched Nash/Amare Suns draining every tough shot you can think of. Gasol was also 0-12 in the playoffs before arriving to the Lakers and installed the Mamba Mentality by 2009 outplaying Dwight in the Finals and also overcoming Boston's physicality. Had Pau came to the Lakers a year or two earlier, Kobe and Pau would have won more rings together The fact that the 2001 Lakers faced four 50+ win playoff teams in 2001 and nearly went undefeated gives them the strongest case for best team all-time.
Had Kobe had ONE viable all star immediately following Shaq instead of squandering 3 years of his ABSOLUTE prime, he would have gotten to 6 rings, maaaaybe more. And as for 2001, I think they ARE the best team ever. Obviously they only won 50 some games and weren't even the one seed in the WEST. BUT, their ceiling showed in the playoffs. They played the second hardest playoff opponents EVER behind only the 95 Rockets. AND they posted the SECOND highest differential EVER, AND posted the BEST winning percentage EVER. Its because its the only time EVER the best two players on earth were on the same team.
I'm not sure about that, he needed to adjust his game after not having a monster to lead them to victory like Shaq. Kobe was a big ball hog for a long time and it reflected in him not being able to get many rings after Shaq was gone. @@skap_attack
@@skap_attack As a spurs fan , that team Kobe and the Lakers swept was prime defensive juggernaut spurs and Kobe couldn't be stopped ..Bruce Bowen acknowledges that to this day Rip Kobe Bryant
@@Kuroganemk2 we see this in two extremely different lights. Kobe was more successful and won more without Shaq than vice versa. And Shaq without Kobe had: Penny, PRIME D Wade, MVP Lebron, MVP Nash and the suns, the BIG 3 Celtics. Kobe had Pau Gasol LOL. Kobe is easily the best player that has walked the earth since Michael Jeffrey Jordan retired. It’s not close.
Many thanks for the videos on Hakeem and Kobe, for setting the record straight and not letting Lebron's media goons and his fans try to re-write history by shaping the narrative. A future generation where kids are manipulated into believing Lebum was better than MJ and Kobe would be an unjust world.
As a lifelong Kobe fan, I have to emphasize how big of appreciation I have for Timmy. Easily top 10 player ever, and the best PF in the history of the game.
Eh. I was more scared of Tony Parker and his stupid perfect floater. We could take what timmy was dishing out. Kobe has a 2:1 winning playoff record against Duncan
@@manz7860 Kobe OWNED the spurs. Also I need to revise my previous comment. After COUNTLESS hours of research and examination into all eras of nba history, I have moved Kobe into my 2 slot.
😂😂😂Another banger Skap the more I find out about Kobe the more he moves up on my list. I originally had him at 3 behind MJ and Kareem but honestly this video made me move him up to 2 because this run is INSANE!!!!!
I agree I truly believe it's Kobe and mike then everyone else. MVPs and awards only can hold so much weight. Being head and shoulders above the competition is more valuable and winning championships
@@derrickevansjr3564 Yeah in this run Kobe faced almost as many 50 win teams as Kareem did his whole career and won back to back all without a top 75 player and Kareem first won with a top 25 player in Oscar and the next 5 with Magic a top 5 player ever so for me Kobe proved what Kareem didn’t which is that he can win without that level of help and he did it back to back which is Kareem’s best winning feat and prior to that he had a top 10 center ever but he 3 peated. Kobe’s winning resume is only eclipsed by Jordan himself
Can’t help but notice that Kobe put up nearly 30 pts per game in the playoffs while his only decent side kick put up nearly 19 pts per game and won two titles. Very similar to some GOAT named Jordan and his Robin named Simpin’ Pippen in 91-93. Job well done Kobe 👏🏼
Let’s see how overrated Kobe Bryant is: This is ALL TIME NBA RANKINGS Points per game 1. MJ - 30.12 5. LeBronze - 27.13 12. Kobe - 24.99 PER 1. MJ - 27.91 2. LeBronze - 27.34 28. Kobe - 22.90 Box plus/minus 1. MJ - 9.21 2. LeBronze - 8.86 31. Kobe - 4.55 Offensive box plus/minus 1. MJ - 7.17 2. LeBronze - 7.06 17. Kobe - 4.62 Defensive box plus/minus 24. MJ - 2.05 35. LeBronze - 1.79 KOBE IS NOT EVEN RANKED IN THE TOP 250 ON THE ALL TIME LIST … Are we missing something here, because these are facts smh. Kobe Bryant was an Ok (not great) player and for people to have him in the conversation of the GOAT is mental illness at its finest, dude is so overrated that is comical, it’s really pathetic how people are delusional to facts. He was the favourite player for an entire generation growing up but I know enough to put it in proper context as an adult. He was a chucker with an impressive highlight reel because he took dumb shots that went in at an admittedly impressive clip ... But that doesn't justify it. He didn't make his teammates better, he wasn't good in the clutch (just UNAFRAID) and his defence is massively overstated. Kobe was benched his first 3 seasons, and he was old and injured in his last 3 seasons. not trynna make excuses but those definitely tank his overall career numbers. Also the argument for him needing O´Neal and Gasol applies to any superstar in the league. also to be even more fair, anyone playing with prime O´Neal is gonna be a Robin, O´Neal was one of the most dominant to ever play. Pau Gasol led both 09 and 10 finals in 4th quarter scoring. And even Lebronze James performed better against those teams than Kobe. In 2008, LeBronze took the Celtics to 7 games with an inferior team while Kobe (who was favored) lost in 6 vs the same team. .. Kobe is not clutch Elimination games Kobe: 22 ppg on 40% shooting Lebronze: 33 ppg on 48% shooting Kobe was ALWAYS been a "Poor man's Michael Jordan". He does everything worse except shoot 3's. And Jordan was EASILY a more clutch player and far better defender too. Yah, Kobe is a legend but he's definitely not in top 10. Probably not in top 20 for that matter. Kobe may be the greatest difficult shot maker which makes his highlight reel deceiving of how inefficient and overrated he is Kobe is basically Carmelo Anthony with rings. He wasn’t even the best player on his team for many years with him getting a bus ride on the SHAQ’s Laker teams. People that say he is Top 10 are non basketball fans or don’t know anything about basketball. Analytics don't lie. I'm actually not a fan of his style of play. He's not the fastest, nor did he jumped the highest, nor the smartest. He's not even an original, modeling his play after Jordan. He did however, have extraordinary grit, an unrelenting desire to win. His sheer will forced everyone around him to win. His work ethics was undeniable. Simply, he worked way harder than everyone else. I used to think he was a horrible teammate, and in most sense he was absolutely, but he did one crucial thing. He put the fear in you to do your absolutely best. So in a way too, he brought the best in his teammate. He won because he simply just wanted more than anyone else. Teaches us all something. RIP. Good vid, good discussion. Kobrick was a HOT shooter which fools everyone into thinking he was a great shooter. Kobrick and Dwayne Wade are the greatest HOT shooters of all time. Dwayne Wade is a much better shooter than Kobrick though. Also, Kobrick has made some incredibly difficult shots but he has also taken and missed the most ridiculously stupid difficult shots possible. Kobe shoot 41% in the finals? If you're only shooting 8 times a game that's not too bad but when you shoot 28 times that's when you're hurting the team. He was a arrogant cry baby that was extremely inefficient. Kobe Bryant is THE MOST overrated player in NBA history. Lakers were better when he didnt play.
@@rebecalinares5393thank God one comment not dick riding Kobe. It's like every Kobe diehard fans find their way into this channel to degrade other superstars to make him look good.
@@derrickevansjr3564 Thats your problem Evans, thats your problem. You "hear" instead of READING THE FACTS I WROTE. READ FOR F. SAKE and you will know who the greatest and undisputed best player of all time has been, IS and will always be.
Another thing that helped the Lakers in the 07-08 was Kobe changing his leadership style. By his own admission, he stopped keeping his teammates at arm's length off the court and started getting to know them personally to see how they tick. I'm sure it helped boost morale a lot.
This is very true. I remember him talking about it that year. It’s why they all had better chemistry than in the 07 season when they were barely over .500.
@@Serching4JerryGarcia He admitted he was spoiled, immature, and didn’t know how to lead and didn’t trust his teammates at first. He owned up and was willingly to change his leadership style because he wanted to win. He had that competitive edge and winning mentality in him. Look at Duncan too. His style was different but also the same winning mentality.
The simple reason Lebron stans manufactured the phony Gasol/ Pippen savior narratives is they know Ray Allen and Kyrie saved Lebron. Especially Kyire who many feel deserved that finals MVP not Lebron.
@@kieqrurglnpfpfhywpnf Sure kid. Did you go to LeBron’s school to be his pet? Did you get a participation award. Al Horford is definitely better than Lambier.
It's absolutely disgusting how much people downplay Kobe. With sheer hard work and determination he shattered crazy records with hardly any all stars despite the cArRiEd By ShAq NaRrAtIvE
@@manz7860 The only two things Kobe has in accolades over LeBron is like 4 Def teams, 1 chip and 1 scoring title. LeBron has quite a few things over Kobe. You can have favorites, just don't be blind cause trying to prop Kobe in a video hating on LeBron is a bad look. Dude really said Kobes 35pts on 45 fg% was the greatest scoring season lol
@@andrewcook1246hahaha Lebump swept in the Finals is the funniest🤣🤣. Like getting swept against the Spurs by the largest amount of point difference in NBA HiSTORY 🤣🤣🤣. In NBA HiSTORY 🤣🤣. That is just to funny 🤣
@@slowmojo9355 lmao. You definitely got a hate boner for bron. Go on and move along to the circle jerk. Shame Bron didnt have Primer Shaq out the gate to carry him to 3 rings.
Thank you for protecting Kobe’s legacy. I don’t think people will ever put him in the top 5 unanimously but for those of that REALLY KNOW, your work on this channel means a lot.
I think one’s opinion on Kobe is a litmus test for who a person is, and how their mind works. I've noticed only impressionable, anti-nuance, weak-minded conformists believe lebron is the GOAT. I EVEN believe to a certain degree that Jordan is held in such fantastically high esteem, that his career barely matches my expectations given what people say about him. The ERA and competition Kobe faced is the most underrated part of his story and his GOAT case. Kobe truly conquered the game of basketball in a fashion which out to remove all doubt about his position in history.
They never wanna talk about how much but y the perimeter talent and game was in Kobe’s era. I can’t ignore that MJ back to earth if he faces Mac, truth, etc nightly instead of the few guys at the position of past eras.
@@Gemini050788 I'm a Laker and Kobe fan. Was not a fan of MJ because I was a Magic fan wasn't going to jump on the bandwagon. I followed Kobe's career closely to see if he would be better than MJ. Kobe's range was better, ball handling slightly better, and had to deal with zone defenses. But MJ was was the greatest physical freak in basketball (Not Lebron) and neck and neck with Kobe on skills. Plus he had the greatest motor ever. Kobe had greater positional competitiion, but MJ would have dominated those guys too.
@@universityoffree I’m not saying he wouldn’t have got off. That’s where ppl lose the point being made. The numbers would not be equally as gaudy. I commented earlier. When it comes to goat debates all we can do is play with the stats to cover ground where guys didn’t play. But the facts are that Kobe is the only man we know for sure how his game translates across the 90s style of play until the style of the late 10s. There is visual evidence of Kobe bustin EVERYONES behind from MJ to Curry. Only he can claim that while everyone else we just have to use the numbers and adjust them to today but it’s not the same thing as actually seeing it happen. It’s strictly speculation no matter what stat we pull. That’s all I was getting at. I know what the retort will be so I won’t go back and forth on it. Again I agree MJ gets off but the numbers would be closer to the pack whether we like it or not.
@@Gemini050788 That wasn't the real MJ that Kobe killed. Again, I'm a bigger Kobe fan than MJ fan. I loved that Kobe had the audacity to try to chase MJ. He just didn't have the physical gifts. MJs first run and Kobe's 2nd run are very comparable team wise. Kobe's competition might have been slightly tougher. But Kobe got 2, MJ got 3.
The biggest difference is that when things fell short for Kobe, he blamed himself, not everyone and everything else like what people do now. When Kobe didn't win, he took it personally, trained even harder, and dug deeper. He and MJ had that in common. Basketball was his life and he was a true professional. #RIPBlackMamba
That’s exactly right. No players today take the kind of responsibilities that Jordan and Kobe did. Certainly never Lebron James. He’s had scapegoats and excuses from the first time he hit the league to this day. And he has failed far more times than he has succeeded.
I remember in 07 . Celtics fans were rocking the lakers team bus as they had just gotten routed in the nba finals. Kobe used it as fuel and completed back to back championships over the next 2 years. Players today will get you kicked out of a game for taunting them
Exactly what you say here is what publicly did not helped him. For example in 2004 finals Kobe&Shaq lost them, and years later he appears together with Shaq blaming himself while at that times they were discussing each other " Kobe you don't pass the ball" and "Go for the rebound if a fail the shots", what happen to Kobe later? If he was right then? If then Shaq traded? In that finals Shaq's game was completely guessed and cancelled by Wallace Bros !!!
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I absolutely love how even when the videos aren't about King James, Skap Attack finds a way to add in hilariously witty digs to keep putting LeFlop in his place.
Its funny because they say LeBron makes his teammates better but then blame his teammates when he loses. Its even funnier when they trade half the damn team before the trade deadline because "his teammates were playing like trash"...
Kobe and Shaq IS a superteam that couldn't win without Phil for a while. They had pretty much the two best players in the league for many years with some highly underrated clutch role players that made big shot after big shot..And had Phil as well..
No it is not a great case. There is no great case for Kobe. 1 MVP in 20 years and 3/5 rings are Shaq's- aside from the horrible efficiency in a lot of playoff runs. Skap just doesn't get into the truth because he is an ignorant casual.
And it feels like media gives Bron more credit for making 8 straight finals in the weakest conference opposed to Kobe facing 50+ win teams left and right including the juggernaut Boston Celtics in the finals without having nearly as much help as LeHelp James
@@andrewcook1246He didn't give Kobe a pass, he's comparing how the media and LeBron stans always flip the narrative. Lebron getting swept in the 07 finals is an amazing accomplishment for him, but Kobe lost to an equally talented Suns team that he took to a 7 games series but the media and Kobe haters just say Kobe couldn't get out the 1st round. There's no silver lining when Kobe lost
@@Chill_Brill What rock do you live under? James has been more criticized in a year by Skip and Skap, than Kobe did his entire career. Even while enduring rape allegations lmao. But sure. Go off bro. Do a simple YT search for LeBron sucks and Kobe sucks to get a little perspective lol. Kobe is hated but no one who hates him makes 10 videos about him a week like dear ole Skap Bayless here. Its pretty funny cause 70% of his channels voews are for lebron. So he keeping the light on at espn and all his haters houses
@@andrewcook1246LeBrick didn't only lose to the Spurs.... He got swept by the largest Amount of point difference in NBA history 🤣🤣 I remember them Finals i would have to change channels by the 3rd quarter because the games where already decided🤣🤣🤣
@@slowmojo9355 Thats my point. When LeBron loses he loses to dynasties. GSW, San Antonio, etc. Kobe knows all about getting beat by the spurs too. Kobe got beat by a 0 ring team with the most criticized and one sided player in Nash and is getting fellatiod by this man and apparently you too. He also does not appear to appreciate how good Gasol was and the Lakers too. Also lucky. Edit: Gasol is one of 4 players to accumulate 20k pts 10kreb and 4k assists. Guess who are the other 4? I'll tell you one thing, its not AD or Chris Bosh or Dwight Howard.
Close but i'd go with '94-95 Rockets. They were the 6th seed and had no other all star players other than Hakeem, and only he and Clyde made the All Nba 3rd team. That was the biggest carry job ever. After that it's the 2003 Spurs and then the 2011 Mavs
@@abdullah82mthat 2 year run was crazy. Every team they faced had at least 2 all-stars except 1 and they beat the teams that had the MVP, the leagues best rebounder on the same team and swept the team with the leagues leading scorer.
It's so crazy how ppl cant see Kobe is the second greatest of all time..ppl have to go into Advanced analytics to make LBJ the GOAT and that's why advanced analytics were created..to protect the players of today
If you look at advanced metrics, Chris Paul is a the GOAT point guard and Nikola Jokic is the GOAT period lol. I don’t put much stock into those things. I’ve been watching ball since the mid 90s. Kobe and Jordan are by far the best players I’ve ever seen.
Thats what pisses me off most about lecant, the media says he makes his team mates better, Kobe and MJ made their team mates so good that they won 5 and 6 respectively whereas the chosen one has won 4 with D Wade making him better. I dont understand
Exactly. Also Lebron joins already established all time greats. Pippen and Pau were not great when Kobe and Jordan got them. And Jordan and Kobe turned them both into hall of famers.
@@jasonmoukala8909 Pau without Kobe is a fringe all star. Pau with the Lakers is a Hall of Famer. And it's not like, Pau was young when he was without Kobe, but Pau was in his prime, with and without Kobe, even though his ultimate primes were with Kobe. But without Kobe, I'm pretty sure Pau would not be a household name at all.
Amazing video..! Another classic.! Great insight on Pau Gasol. Didn't diminish his legacy at all. He wasn't Kobe's savior. He was his teammate that played his roll very well. Kobe had nothing but love and respect for him. Even gave Pau the upmost credit for the championships they one together when he didn't have to. I don't think I ever heard LeBron credit anybody in his championship teams because he likes to take credit for things that he doesn't even do as if he does it well . We love Kobe and we love Pau..!
Watching NBA basketball from 2008 to 2010 will always be my favorite times I’ve ever watched sports. I was religiously watching my Lakers finally come back from the depths of mediocrity to being a championship contender again…. I haven’t had the same joy watching the NBA since 2010
You and me both! Also coincidentally some fake GOAT decided to break the league and start the super team era in 2011...not mentioning any names or anything.
Excellent video as per usual by Skap. It highlights what the real ones know - that Kobe was 1 of 1. I think the only thing missing would be highlighting that Kobe was not 100% for approx. 2 of those 3 years as he was dealing with that broken finger on his shooting hand.
Dirk Nowitzki 2011 is the most impressive I’ve ever seen. Hakeem Olajuwon in 1994 is also hugely impressive, as is the asterisked Kawhi Leonard-led Raptors run in 2019. Boston’s 2022 group and Miami’s most recent Finals squad might have had the all-time claim had they prevailed over the Warriors and the nuggets, respectively. Instead, the Warriors capitalized on a cakewalk to the Finals, and Nikola Jokic has officially cemented himself as a Top 15 Player all-time. The 2013-14 Spurs were more of an ensemble, and made it look so easy, but should also deserve much credit for dismantling the quality of opponents that they did.
Great video!! You should do a comparison of pau gasol vs Chris Bosh, & Kevin love. Kobe winning with pau is equivalent to lebron winning with just Bosh and no Dwade and winning with just Klove and no Kyrie.
@@KVJ-w7h you guessed wrong lebron is about 11 but I could put him lower at 14 depending the list and how I am putting it together. 1.Jordan, 1. Kareem, 3.wilt, 4.Kobe, 4.Duncan 6.magic 7 bird 8. Oscar etc. so many players that where better than Lebrun-to-another-team.
I love how you show that the Lakers were winning before the Gasol trade. Not many ppl know or talk about that. They act like they traded and then got the number 1 seed when they were already on pace for 54 wins
@@bluntfello Ehhh I wouldn't be so definitive about that. Bird was a solid 50/40/90 player who was never timid or scared of clutch moments. Not to mention being like 6'10" with an impossible to block shot. In 87 he was 28/10/8 on 53/40/91 efficiency. That's beyond good, that's damn near perfection.
@@SuperSonic_868 He's got less championships than LeBron , way less finals appearances, less MVP's, less points, rebounds, and assist. And he had a loaded team that included Dennis Johnson, Bill Walton, McHale, Parish ....
Thumbs up! The 2007 Lakers were pretty mediocre and the 2008 Lakers were an elite team. Kobe was amazing in both seasons so his supporting cast must have gotten significantly better.
He literally needed ONE decent player. A one time all star in 7 years was enough. He had guys that shouldn't even be starters the two previous seasons.
@@skap_attackA first-ballot hall of famer and one of the best European basketball players of all time is a decent player for you? The list of good players must be pretty short then...
@@hollins625for a career you right. But at the time when he joined the lakers. Pau was 0-12 in the playoffs and wasn't top 3 at his position or top ten. Pau good but not all time great
@@derrickevansjr3564 we evaluate legends by their complete career don't we? We are you from? In Europe we consider Pau an all time great and being a first ballot Hall of famer kind of confirms that to me. He was pretty succesful outside the NBA as well...
@@hollins625Dude Context is everything. Pau Gasol became that Great Because he was Traded and Played with Kobe. We don’t get to Overhype Pau Gasol to Downplay Kobe.
My appreciation for Kobe was already at the roof. Now its gone through. Lol That play-off run was insane. I need to let kids know that +50 winning team stat.
@@skap_attack well keep it up. You're doing something unique and necessary. I think you should do one about the psyche of lebron fans. Like what makes them live him so much despite all of the flaws, flopping, the help etc
Kobe had a top 10 player all time in his peak on his team for over half his titles 😂 2013 Miami a superteam? James averaged more points than Bosh and Wade did COMBINED 😂
@@hardwoodthought1213 Lebron had more help and its not even close - and you told a bold face lie STATS regarding the Kobe vs Lebron cough "debate" Lebron has NOT won back to back or any title WITHOUT a 20ppg scorer (all star) Wade 23PPG in the 4 years playing with lebron Kyrie 22.3PPG in the 4 years playing with lebron Davis 24.6PPG Lebrons 3rd option Kevin love and Chris bosh both averaged 17PPG in the years playing with lebron with Pau alone 3 straight NBA Finals appearances and he averaged 18.7PPG CONCLUSION Lebrons 2nd options(Wade, Irving, Davis) ALL had greater output than Kobes 2nd option (Pau) and lebrons 3rd option(Love) had just about equal output compared to Kobes 2nd option (Pau) Kobe did more with less and if you compare lebrons 8 year run to the finals he averaged 26.5PPG and Kobe as the 2nd option in the 3peat years averaged 25.4PPG So with slower pace of play Hand checking rules still in place Kobe as a 2nd option had similar output/impact as lebrons prime years going to 8 straight finals
@@JIX9ISLER1986 Yeah he didn’t 14 times in Kobes career a teammate of his made All-NBA that season (Shaq x8, Pau x4, Bynum and Howard x1) LBJs only had 4 (Wade in 11/12, Kyrie in 17, AD in 20) Try again Also, why you using 4 year averages to justify a title win? What did Wade average in 2013?
@@hardwoodthought1213 You are moving the goal post - shaq was an Allstar without kobe but lost in the finals Bynum was an Allstar AFTER 2010 this was not the finals runs same with Dwight nice try the fact that you are asking me why I am counting 4 year averages tell me you lack reading comprehension - appropriate for a a lebrontard FINALS/TITLE runs were mentioned ALL of the players I mentioned were PRIME Allstars that lebron played with en route to his inflated 8 straight finals in a garbage east this is no debate
@@JIX9ISLER1986you are wasting your breath talking to lebron fans. They are like flat earthers, but even less knowledgable, most of them barely even watched lebron play.
Absolutely. In Jordan's first three peat, he played 17, 22, and 19 games with total points 529, 759 and 666. In his second three peat, he played 18, 19, and 21 games with his total points being 552, 590, and 680. Compared to the 3 seasons referenced in this video, Kobe played 21, 23, and 23 games and his total points being 633, 695, and 691. If you took the averages per game, Jordan averaged more in both his threepeats compared to Kobe. Specially, the first one.
While there is a difference in the number of games due to the format, the Bulls had a better playoff win percentage at 1st & 2nd 3peat, so the smaller number of games than Lakers was the main reason.
Yes it does but Kobe Scoring 600 Pts in 3 Straight Playoff Runs in a Slower Pace and Lower Scoring Era from a Numbers Standpoint is what makes it Standout. It’s not a Knock against MJ who is probably the Only Other Player that Could Do what Kobe Did. Both Lead the NBA Playoffs in Scoring for 3 Straight Years, ofc Jordan did it First but it shows how Underrated Kobe is.
@skap_attack just to add, Kobe had serious injuries throughout 2010 when he had a bone spur and a broken finger IN HIS SHOOTING HAND! Yet did not complain AT ALL! What I saw was Kobe in a full out of this world mode on. Because of his greatness, we think that those Lakers were like the super teams but in reality, they were just the same Roster from 2007 (Walton, Farmar, Vujacic, Odom, Radmanovic, Ariza) with the addition of Pau and Fisher, improvement of Bynum, and a HUNGRY MAMBA! That's all Kobe needed, a competitive quality team. Meanwhile these statheads diminish Kobe because of his stats etc. But if you look at the eye test, you'll know, that was a whole different mamba vibe.
GREAT comment here. I agree with every word of this. The revisionist BULLSHIT swirling around him obviously sickens me, and I’m on a mission here to shoot that garbage down.
The Lakers should have beaten Phoenix in '06. They had a 3-2 series lead and led game 6 by 3 with 10 seconds left. Phil Jackson opted NOT TO INTENTIALLY FOUL! Tim Thomas made a 3 tying the game and the Lakers lost game 6. The same thing occurred to the San Antonio Spurs in game 6 vs Miami in the 2013 finals. Popovich not only removed Tim Duncan from the game twice in the final minutes but also failed to deliberately foul twice!
Also the Lakers gave up like 2-3 offensive rebounds on that final possession I believe in game 6 with a 3 point lead until the suns eventually hit the game tying 3. I also am pretty sure Kobe had 50 points that game.
If Kwame Brown doesn't go for that Tim Thomas head fake, the Lakers eliminate the Suns. And who knows from there. 2013 is the biggest fluke in the history of bball. If that rebound doesn't bounce to Chris Bosh, no Ray Allen. If Kawhi makes a free throw, no Ray Allen. If Manu make a free throw, no Ray Allen. Luckiest ring ever.
Another reason why Kobe is one of the best was his impact on popularizing the game in China. Kobe did all kinds of summer promotional tours in China back in the 90s and 2000s. He would go on and put on great shows to entertain the fans. He went to the 3rd and 4th Tier cities that were real shit holes that the Shanghaiese and Hong Kong Chinese would not touch with a ten foot pole. A lot of the fans that went to see him were poor working stiffs who would skip work and take a huge risk in getting fired to go see Kobe. He was giving everything including the shoes and shirts he was wearing and that stuff would be worth 3 months pay to a few lucky fans. The Mamba Mentality was also in the spirits of the Chinese workers who built up the country into the economic juggernaut it is today. Don't forget the biggest Kobe memorabilia collector is a self made Chinese millionaire. He help to popularize basketball in China. Only Yao Ming and David Stern did more.
In a 1999 interview, Phil Jackson revealed he could never trust Shaquille O’Neal as his team leader because of his poor free-throw shooting ability. Phil Jackson : “Look, you’ve got to deliver in the clutch if you’re going to be the leader, and if you can’t make free throws…” Shaq took the duties of a team leader and primary option, but thankfully, Jackson also had Kobe Bryant, who would be the GO-TO BALL-HANDLER in clutch situations for the Lakers franchise.
So to be clear, in 2000 for example when Shaq AVERAGED 32/16/3/2 for the entire playoffs, Kobe was as good averaging 21/3/4 because he was a better FT shooter 😂 Okay
@@hardwoodthought1213 Did you not read my comment? Phil Jackson stated Shaq couldn’t be the leader of the team because he couldn’t depend on him down the stretch. Shaq was a liability. Shaq also always came to camp out of shape. That’s why Kobe was his Go-To player. Phil Jackson thought Kobe was more valuable to the Lakers franchise because he was better defensively and was more clutch. These are the words of Phil Jackson not mine. It was proven by the fact that the Lakers traded Shaq, and Kobe lead the Lakers to back to back championships. Whereas, Shaq never led a team to another championship without Kobe. The Miami Heat was DWade’s team. Shaq was there but he wasn’t the leader.
@@user-li2ir5ss5pall facts dude didn't wanna hear it. Just throwing out stats 😂😂😂 and Kobe was hurt through the 2000 playoffs not just finals. And again when shaq fouled out in game 5 of the finals guess who seals the deal
@@user-li2ir5ss5p Right, but you’re claiming he said this when, 1999? Shaq was 2nd in DPOY voting in 2000… I can name a dozen players from those teams who said Shaq was the leader. Fisher himself said when asked why the early 2000 Lakers were so good ‘Shaq, without hesitation’ Phil Jackson said in 2004 Kobe was a bad defender Phil Jackson said in 2004 he wasn’t surprised Kobe was accused of rape Jackson said in 2006 Kobe was uncoachable Phil Jackson said in 2011 that LA would not likely win again because Kobe resorted back to stupid gunning plays and blame defecting You agree with all of that, right?
@@derrickevansjr3564 How does LA winning with Kobe being injured help Kobes case? It literally shows his team was so good with him being outscored by Austin Croshere he could still win 😂 I love the Game 5 (it was actually game 4) references, but ignoring Shaq won games 1 and 2 with Kobe scoring a TOTAL of 12 points 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Even in death kobe doesn't get the respect he deserved r.i.p. Thank you skap for the vid duration this man deserves. Kobe made the one mistake they made him pay for the rest of his career, Colorado. Pau Gasol was never the difference maker they claimed him to be, just the excuse they needed to give Kobe partial credit for a resume full of extra credit.
great video by Skap Attack once again! The one video I wished someone could put together, hint hint, is to show a comparison between Kobe (RIP) and Lebron...✌
@@skap_attack Facts, as always…. We appreciate the time, energy, and effort you put into your videos…it’s refreshing to see and hear truth in this age of lies, fake news, and false narratives…. We will be on the lookout for your next video and will be sure to share it with others…✌️👍👌🎤🔥
You're saying basically everything I've been saying and thinking for over a decade. I love seeing that I'm not the only one who saw Kobe this way. He's definitely top 3 in my book. To me, the most objective metric for judging player's greatness is looking at how many seasons a player A) was All-NBA 1st or 2nd team while B) being All-Defense, while C) being an All-Star (preferably a starter), and also D) while winning the NBA Championship. This means the player was in the top 2 at his position on BOTH Offense and Defense, was voted by fans/coaches as one of the top 2 stars at his position, while at the same time his individual ability translated to the highest level of team success in the same season, by winning the NBA title. There are only 2 players in history to have done this 5 times or more. Those are Kobe and MJ.
I LOVE the way you broke that down. And I agree totally with this take. Kobe is HIGHLY underrated. Kobe has 27 cumulative all league selections between all nba and all nba defense. Absurd. While going to seven finals, winning 5 and being top 4 in scoring (both regular season and playoffs). How is that resume not an easy top 3 all time?
Daaammnnn you said it best
Was able to articulate it for years
But not linked as well
That’s 🔥
And that's why Kobe is definitely top 2 all time.
@@gb1style 🙏❤️🐍
@@skap_attackagree and you explained that well also. Kobe top 2 to me
Dirk Nowitzki's 2011 playoff run was pretty impressive 💯
No doubt. And Hakeem’s 1994 run is better than any of Kobe. BUT, I’m not looking at one title. Show me a run where you win multiple. Hakeem did and his run is second best ever to me behind this Kobe run. Had Hakeem not gotten Drexler for the 95 title that would be number one over this run by Kobe.
But not as impressive as Kobe's. Go back and look at that 2010-11 Mavs lineup. They had a way better team than LA had the year they won the title and a lot of the bench was starters on other NBA teams. Kobe didn't have that at all.
@@wizmanballin8498 man people don't realize how great that Mavs team was constructed because they didn't have a bunch of household names...well neither did the Lakers. Before Pau joined the Lakers he was a top 15 big in the league at best.
Kahwi Leonard Toronto run is my fav
@@skap_attackkawhi run better than Hakeem
LeBron's a great player but it's ridiculous how his most passionate fans will have you believe Pippen and Pau Gasol were greater individual players than Wade, Bosh, Kyrie, Love, and AD.
Exactly right. Gasol was akin to the third option on all of lebrons title teams except the bubble. But AD was closer to Shaq level in that title for Lebron. Suffice it to say, Kobe won much harder rings than Lebron.
I’d say gasol was better than bosh and love. Shaq was better than anyone bron ever played with
@@skap_attackno he didn’t. Shaq was better than anyone bron ever played with
gasol had less all star and all nbas than bosh, when both gasol and bosh were on the grizzlies and raptors @@jasonmoukala8909
Cmon you can’t compare pippen to pau fucking gasol bro pippen was a doggg to man he just never got the credit he deserved because he was on mjs team and cmon how you really finna outshine Michael fucking Jordan but pippen came the fucking real closest he ever could have and god damn proved he’s worth for those 3 peats and how they wouldn’t be able to do it without him they deff could of won a few championships without him but hell not no 2 3 peats without pippen he was putting up just as good enough numbers then mjs sometimes he took over certain points in the game where they really needed it and mj can kinda of lay off the gas Pedal abit people have to start giving pippen the credit he deserves man just case mj won those mvps finals mvps in those runs MJ always said to the media every time that it wasn’t just him Scottie was a key factor in why mj aconplished all that and I respect Jordan for always bringing that up every time he got interviewed about all those accomplishments making sure Scottie got recognized also but the world still didn’t give asf 💯😂🤦♂️💀💀cause they were always so in AWE and star struck by mj and just being in his presence ffs all eyes were on MJ💯
You forgot to mention Kobes shooting hand injury in the Celtics finals win. Initially, the diagnosis was Kobe could miss up to six weeks, but Kobe was having none of that, stating: “My current thinking is to give my finger some treatment and rest for a few days, and hope I can still continue to compete at a high level after that rest,” Bryant said. Man never complained. Never brought it up. Just went and kicked their asses after that. GOAT SHIT. Keep showing these youtube highlight reel kids real NBA. I never missed a game. They literally just watch highlights. Kobe was unbelievable. Prime Kobe would work prime mj, and Bird. The real 3 Goats. I wish we had a magical time machine just to see them play 21 in their primes. Im really liking Luka and Donavan though. Young boys bring me hope. Id love Ja to be here if he ever pulls his head out of his ass. Kid has the mentality on court and is a follower off court.
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@@steviechampagne Only 35 mpg. 28.3 PPG. 48.4 FG% 38.6 3 pt% 1.5 steals last season. Youre a clown. You live near cinci we can 1v1 and I will work you. Keep watching highlights lil boy. The clown emote is for Trolls like you. You think Ja is better than Donavan? Ja ever dropped 71? Didnt think so.
@@steviechampagne How many of my posts you gonna troll kid. Try to get a life. You are constantly sniffing my jock. Go away.
Young 2-way players are more impressive for me tbh not a fan of spamming 3s then a liability on def because on offense, it's always make or miss and a lot of times, it's a miss.
Yeah injuries were.a big part of that 2010 run that should have been included in this video. Also the 6 game winners in the regular season without which the Lakers would have been just one win away from missing the playoffs.
I'm not a religious person. But watching Skap's videos is like going to church. Ain't nothing but truth 🙌
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I agree. He is preaching an NBA sermon!👏👏
Amen to that 😂
I agree
The funny thing about that title run is people forget that Kobe was at wits end with the office decisions the season before and the league knew Kobe couldn't contend with what he had. I think at that point they had all chips in on Lebron and he wasn't coming through so they threw Kobe a bone and Kobe ran with it. They threw Lebron 3 bones and he choked on all of them.
Stern was so mad that in 2012 he had the old ass lakers playing back to backs in the playoffs against OKC not to even mention stopping the Chris Paul trade
@@businessk3014 😂😂😂👍
Chris Paul x Kobe would have had a VERY good chance of doing serious damage.
Lmao @ LeBron choking on the bones. The biggest lie in sports history is that he never has help.
@@borisfrlic the league didnt want to see that happen.
Protect Skap at all costs
Skap is straight LEGENDARY.
Thank you for keeping Kobe Lit 🔥
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Even after going through one of the toughest eras in the NBA that Kobe Bryant went through he still has not needed to build super teams and join other guys teams to win games and championships but these clowns of modern times want to put LeFraudulent James over a real goat like Kobe 🤦🏿♂️. Rip 💛Kobe the real goat Bryant💜
Kobe is the most underrated and disrespected all time great we have going in basketball at this time. Quite frankly it’s just blasphemy to have him any lower than top 5. He’ll always be in my top 3 🙏❤️🐍
@@skap_attackWhat is your top 3?
How is LeBron a fraud man he will be hated forever by the buthurt old heads but this hate won't last forever once these new generation of kids grow up things will change appreciate every each of athlete.
@@ak-0704 Jordan, Kareem, Kobe.
@@SICKOCL Old Heads remember competition. You can cop out and take the easy way, but don't expect us not to notice and call you the greatest. It's not gonna happen. That's the root of it. Not personal. Just don't like b*tch moves. And it's worse when you try to insult our intelligence like we didn't notice what you did.
Kobe was robbed of so many league MVPs someone needs to arrested. The fact he led LA to 3 finals in a row from 208-2010 and 2 titles, with 1 mvp award is mind boggling. King James getting MVP while playing in a trash conference is embarrassing!
Kobe should have one of Nash mvp for sure. The problem was he was black listed after the Colorado charges.
If that did not happen, he would easily have 3 mvps.
Kobe misses the playoffs in 05 and was the 7th seed in 06 so no he shouldn't have. I've never seen another players maps disrespected like nash. Mvp dint mean best player
Well said it's just sad
My word... Skap has more good content than Lebron has excuses! "Mama there goes that man!" - Former NBA Analyst Mark Jackson
I mean... Skap is great, but LeExcuse has more excuses, let's be real...
LOL I appreciate you!! 🙏🙏❤️🙌👊
Rip jvg the goat!!
@@chauvintookaknee4blm268 brodi I'm still salty about that team breaking up.... And they replace the "old analysts" with not jj Reddick or some up and coming analyst, but Doris burke?????? I love Doris but come tf on....
@@TheForkOnTheLeftist the og superteam! 🍻🍺
"When I played one of the things I had to learn was to get the best out of my teammates," Bryant said. "Most people think it's a simple thing. Pass them the ball. That's not how you make guys better, you have to really affect their behavior.
-Kobe Bryant
Lebron never learned this....hence why he STAT pads and teams up with all stars
Hence why team USA players got on KOBES workout schedule he "affected their behavior" thus making them better
THIS is a GREAT point. People think Lebron makes his teammates better because he averages more assists. Look at what Lebron did to Chris Bosh, D Wade, Kevin Love, Russell Westbrook. He actually makes teammates WORSE. Kobe took a slightly an above average to a very good NBA player in Pau Gasol and made him a HALL OF FAMER. THAT is making your teammates better.
he collected team mates during the olympics. just weird when you think it
@@tendousouji14344 Path of least resistance....
@@skap_attack no we think he makes teammates better because once he leaves a team that team is never heard from again. And the new team he joins is an instant contender...Kobe led team to 2 chips lebron has done that 4 times and no matter who hes played with he has been the man
@@pambrown5625 Nahhh he chokes
When everyone was at their best Kobe was the Best 💯🙏🏽🐐
UNDENIABLE
Facts. I been saying this lately. After Mike the league went up a level and Kobe is above that new level so how good was Kobe ?
@@derrickevansjr3564 top 3 all time lol.
@@skap_attack where exactly you have Kobe on your all time list and who in front of him if anyone is
@Heie_ Pistons: Hold my 🍺!
Kobe and Pau were my favorite duo to watch. Made my high school years more exciting seeing their playoff runs
Man this channel is the best when it comes to truthful and accurate analysis. Not one lie in any of it.
My man! I appreciate you 🙏❤️
@@skap_attack No prob bro, great work!
This isn't what accurate, unbiased analysis is at all, not in the same stratosphere.
Tell Steph fans
@@naturalprinciples8520it's biased but accurate nothing he said was false or a lie but it is def a biased pro Kobe video, which is fine since there's so much anti Kobe narratives out there.
Your combination of sarcasm, dry wit, and humor, makes this the funniest NBA channel on UA-cam. Appreciate the hardwork, and leaning into who you actually are, instead of playing it safe. Well done.
Keeping Kobe’s legacy alive is critically important to the NBA culture! Appreciate you
This video deserves a million views but the algorithm would never allow that, its TOO REAL
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Kobe always had tough competition to overcome in the West and did his best work in the WCF destroying Duncan in 08, proved superior to Melo 2009, and torched Nash/Amare Suns draining every tough shot you can think of. Gasol was also 0-12 in the playoffs before arriving to the Lakers and installed the Mamba Mentality by 2009 outplaying Dwight in the Finals and also overcoming Boston's physicality. Had Pau came to the Lakers a year or two earlier, Kobe and Pau would have won more rings together
The fact that the 2001 Lakers faced four 50+ win playoff teams in 2001 and nearly went undefeated gives them the strongest case for best team all-time.
Had Kobe had ONE viable all star immediately following Shaq instead of squandering 3 years of his ABSOLUTE prime, he would have gotten to 6 rings, maaaaybe more. And as for 2001, I think they ARE the best team ever. Obviously they only won 50 some games and weren't even the one seed in the WEST. BUT, their ceiling showed in the playoffs. They played the second hardest playoff opponents EVER behind only the 95 Rockets. AND they posted the SECOND highest differential EVER, AND posted the BEST winning percentage EVER. Its because its the only time EVER the best two players on earth were on the same team.
I'm not sure about that, he needed to adjust his game after not having a monster to lead them to victory like Shaq. Kobe was a big ball hog for a long time and it reflected in him not being able to get many rings after Shaq was gone. @@skap_attack
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As a spurs fan , that team Kobe and the Lakers swept was prime defensive juggernaut spurs and Kobe couldn't be stopped ..Bruce Bowen acknowledges that to this day
Rip Kobe Bryant
@@Kuroganemk2 we see this in two extremely different lights. Kobe was more successful and won more without Shaq than vice versa. And Shaq without Kobe had: Penny, PRIME D Wade, MVP Lebron, MVP Nash and the suns, the BIG 3 Celtics. Kobe had Pau Gasol LOL. Kobe is easily the best player that has walked the earth since Michael Jeffrey Jordan retired. It’s not close.
@@Chuck_EL Bowen to this day has Kobe as an easy number 2 ALL TIME behind only Jordan.
Many thanks for the videos on Hakeem and Kobe, for setting the record straight and not letting Lebron's media goons and his fans try to re-write history by shaping the narrative. A future generation where kids are manipulated into believing Lebum was better than MJ and Kobe would be an unjust world.
Facts 💯
THIS MAN IS SPITTIN! Great content! So sick of people not recognizing Kobe being on the level of top 5! He’s in my top 3!
He in my top 2
LOVE IT.... THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR KEEPING THE TRUTH ABOUT KOBE'S GREATNESS AND DOMINANCE ALIVE‼️💯
Why does this channel not have 1M+ subscribers? Such a refresher amongst everything else. Thank you, awesome content!
As a lifelong Kobe fan, I have to emphasize how big of appreciation I have for Timmy. Easily top 10 player ever, and the best PF in the history of the game.
Duncan is 7 on my all time list and Kobe is 3. Absolutely a legendary time in the western conference
Eh. I was more scared of Tony Parker and his stupid perfect floater.
We could take what timmy was dishing out. Kobe has a 2:1 winning playoff record against Duncan
@@manz7860 Kobe OWNED the spurs. Also I need to revise my previous comment. After COUNTLESS hours of research and examination into all eras of nba history, I have moved Kobe into my 2 slot.
@@skap_attack there's a playlist on youtube called kobe punishing San Antonio. Great 15 minute watch
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😂😂😂Another banger Skap the more I find out about Kobe the more he moves up on my list. I originally had him at 3 behind MJ and Kareem but honestly this video made me move him up to 2 because this run is INSANE!!!!!
I agree I truly believe it's Kobe and mike then everyone else. MVPs and awards only can hold so much weight. Being head and shoulders above the competition is more valuable and winning championships
@@derrickevansjr3564 Yeah in this run Kobe faced almost as many 50 win teams as Kareem did his whole career and won back to back all without a top 75 player and Kareem first won with a top 25 player in Oscar and the next 5 with Magic a top 5 player ever so for me Kobe proved what Kareem didn’t which is that he can win without that level of help and he did it back to back which is Kareem’s best winning feat and prior to that he had a top 10 center ever but he 3 peated. Kobe’s winning resume is only eclipsed by Jordan himself
Can’t help but notice that Kobe put up nearly 30 pts per game in the playoffs while his only decent side kick put up nearly 19 pts per game and won two titles. Very similar to some GOAT named Jordan and his Robin named Simpin’ Pippen in 91-93. Job well done Kobe 👏🏼
I noticed that same thing…and people try to pretend like it just never happened these days.
Kobe's sidekick never stabbed him in the back... Unlike Scotty.
@@skap_attackand let's not forget pippin is a far better player then Pau
I have to admit, I underrated Kobe until I found your channel. Now I see the light.
That’s real right there bro 👏🏾
Let’s see how overrated Kobe Bryant is: This is ALL TIME NBA RANKINGS
Points per game 1. MJ - 30.12 5. LeBronze - 27.13 12. Kobe - 24.99
PER 1. MJ - 27.91 2. LeBronze - 27.34 28. Kobe - 22.90
Box plus/minus 1. MJ - 9.21 2. LeBronze - 8.86 31. Kobe - 4.55
Offensive box plus/minus 1. MJ - 7.17 2. LeBronze - 7.06 17. Kobe - 4.62
Defensive box plus/minus 24. MJ - 2.05 35. LeBronze - 1.79
KOBE IS NOT EVEN RANKED IN THE TOP 250 ON THE ALL TIME LIST … Are we missing something here, because these are facts smh. Kobe Bryant was an Ok (not great) player and for people to have him in the conversation of the GOAT is mental illness at its finest, dude is so overrated that is comical, it’s really pathetic how people are delusional to facts.
He was the favourite player for an entire generation growing up but I know enough to put it in proper context as an adult. He was a chucker with an impressive highlight reel because he took dumb shots that went in at an admittedly impressive clip ... But that doesn't justify it. He didn't make his teammates better, he wasn't good in the clutch (just UNAFRAID) and his defence is massively overstated.
Kobe was benched his first 3 seasons, and he was old and injured in his last 3 seasons. not trynna make excuses but those definitely tank his overall career numbers. Also the argument for him needing O´Neal and Gasol applies to any superstar in the league. also to be even more fair, anyone playing with prime O´Neal is gonna be a Robin, O´Neal was one of the most dominant to ever play.
Pau Gasol led both 09 and 10 finals in 4th quarter scoring. And even Lebronze James performed better against those teams than Kobe. In 2008, LeBronze took the Celtics to 7 games with an inferior team while Kobe (who was favored) lost in 6 vs the same team. .. Kobe is not clutch Elimination games Kobe: 22 ppg on 40% shooting Lebronze: 33 ppg on 48% shooting
Kobe was ALWAYS been a "Poor man's Michael Jordan". He does everything worse except shoot 3's. And Jordan was EASILY a more clutch player and far better defender too. Yah, Kobe is a legend but he's definitely not in top 10. Probably not in top 20 for that matter.
Kobe may be the greatest difficult shot maker which makes his highlight reel deceiving of how inefficient and overrated he is
Kobe is basically Carmelo Anthony with rings. He wasn’t even the best player on his team for many years with him getting a bus ride on the SHAQ’s Laker teams. People that say he is Top 10 are non basketball fans or don’t know anything about basketball.
Analytics don't lie. I'm actually not a fan of his style of play. He's not the fastest, nor did he jumped the highest, nor the smartest. He's not even an original, modeling his play after Jordan. He did however, have extraordinary grit, an unrelenting desire to win. His sheer will forced everyone around him to win. His work ethics was undeniable. Simply, he worked way harder than everyone else. I used to think he was a horrible teammate, and in most sense he was absolutely, but he did one crucial thing. He put the fear in you to do your absolutely best. So in a way too, he brought the best in his teammate. He won because he simply just wanted more than anyone else. Teaches us all something. RIP. Good vid, good discussion.
Kobrick was a HOT shooter which fools everyone into thinking he was a great shooter. Kobrick and Dwayne Wade are the greatest HOT shooters of all time. Dwayne Wade is a much better shooter than Kobrick though. Also, Kobrick has made some incredibly difficult shots but he has also taken and missed the most ridiculously stupid difficult shots possible.
Kobe shoot 41% in the finals? If you're only shooting 8 times a game that's not too bad but when you shoot 28 times that's when you're hurting the team. He was a arrogant cry baby that was extremely inefficient.
Kobe Bryant is THE MOST overrated player in NBA history. Lakers were better when he didnt play.
@@rebecalinares5393thank God one comment not dick riding Kobe. It's like every Kobe diehard fans find their way into this channel to degrade other superstars to make him look good.
@@rebecalinares5393yo this might be the worst logic I ever heard. And let me guess lebron your goat😂😂😂
@@derrickevansjr3564 Thats your problem Evans, thats your problem. You "hear" instead of READING THE FACTS I WROTE.
READ FOR F. SAKE and you will know who the greatest and undisputed best player of all time has been, IS and will always be.
The more I watch your videos the more I learn why Kobe is ahead of LeBron on a top 10 list of greats of all times!!!
I LOVE to hear that!! 🙏❤️
I speak the truth and thank you!!!@@skap_attack
@@skap_attack I'm closer to being a casual fan and your reminders are great.
Another thing that helped the Lakers in the 07-08 was Kobe changing his leadership style. By his own admission, he stopped keeping his teammates at arm's length off the court and started getting to know them personally to see how they tick. I'm sure it helped boost morale a lot.
Facts, #24 Kobe became more relatable kinda like second three peat MJ did.
And he admitted it instead of making excuses like LeBlamesomeonelse.
This is very true. I remember him talking about it that year. It’s why they all had better chemistry than in the 07 season when they were barely over .500.
@@Serching4JerryGarcia He admitted he was spoiled, immature, and didn’t know how to lead and didn’t trust his teammates at first. He owned up and was willingly to change his leadership style because he wanted to win. He had that competitive edge and winning mentality in him. Look at Duncan too. His style was different but also the same winning mentality.
@@gambitacio He always had a winning mentality even in Lower Merion with 4 state titles neva lost.
The simple reason Lebron stans manufactured the phony Gasol/ Pippen savior narratives is they know Ray Allen and Kyrie saved Lebron. Especially Kyire who many feel deserved that finals MVP not Lebron.
And that he had easy competition in the easiest conference before he choked in the finals.
just look at their numbers and kyrie played no defence you cant even argue about that as lebron was a solid defender back then
@@gambitacio better than anything jordan ever faced
@@kieqrurglnpfpfhywpnf Sure kid. Did you go to LeBron’s school to be his pet? Did you get a participation award. Al Horford is definitely better than Lambier.
It's absolutely disgusting how much people downplay Kobe. With sheer hard work and determination he shattered crazy records with hardly any all stars despite the cArRiEd By ShAq NaRrAtIvE
This guy makes a living dissing a top 10 player as a scrub. Not surprised Kobe with less accolades gets more hate
@@andrewcook1246I'd argue kobe has more accolades but then again I value winning more than superteaming and statpadding
@@manz7860 The only two things Kobe has in accolades over LeBron is like 4 Def teams, 1 chip and 1 scoring title. LeBron has quite a few things over Kobe.
You can have favorites, just don't be blind cause trying to prop Kobe in a video hating on LeBron is a bad look. Dude really said Kobes 35pts on 45 fg% was the greatest scoring season lol
@@andrewcook1246hahaha Lebump swept in the Finals is the funniest🤣🤣.
Like getting swept against the Spurs by the largest amount of point difference in NBA HiSTORY 🤣🤣🤣. In NBA HiSTORY 🤣🤣.
That is just to funny 🤣
@@slowmojo9355 lmao. You definitely got a hate boner for bron. Go on and move along to the circle jerk. Shame Bron didnt have Primer Shaq out the gate to carry him to 3 rings.
This is probably the best video explaining Kobe's 3 year run from 08-10 . To me that made Kobe the goat
Thank you for protecting Kobe’s legacy. I don’t think people will ever put him in the top 5 unanimously but for those of that REALLY KNOW, your work on this channel means a lot.
I like how this is mostly a kobe video but he still craps all over lebron 💀
this man has an irrational hatred for lebron james
I think one’s opinion on Kobe is a litmus test for who a person is, and how their mind works. I've noticed only impressionable, anti-nuance, weak-minded conformists believe lebron is the GOAT. I EVEN believe to a certain degree that Jordan is held in such fantastically high esteem, that his career barely matches my expectations given what people say about him. The ERA and competition Kobe faced is the most underrated part of his story and his GOAT case. Kobe truly conquered the game of basketball in a fashion which out to remove all doubt about his position in history.
This is a great point and proven by how the Lebron fans are proud Stans and talk about basketball the same way teenaged girls talk Taylor swift
They never wanna talk about how much but y the perimeter talent and game was in Kobe’s era. I can’t ignore that MJ back to earth if he faces Mac, truth, etc nightly instead of the few guys at the position of past eras.
@@Gemini050788 I'm a Laker and Kobe fan. Was not a fan of MJ because I was a Magic fan wasn't going to jump on the bandwagon. I followed Kobe's career closely to see if he would be better than MJ. Kobe's range was better, ball handling slightly better, and had to deal with zone defenses. But MJ was was the greatest physical freak in basketball (Not Lebron) and neck and neck with Kobe on skills. Plus he had the greatest motor ever. Kobe had greater positional competitiion, but MJ would have dominated those guys too.
@@universityoffree I’m not saying he wouldn’t have got off. That’s where ppl lose the point being made. The numbers would not be equally as gaudy. I commented earlier. When it comes to goat debates all we can do is play with the stats to cover ground where guys didn’t play. But the facts are that Kobe is the only man we know for sure how his game translates across the 90s style of play until the style of the late 10s. There is visual evidence of Kobe bustin EVERYONES behind from MJ to Curry. Only he can claim that while everyone else we just have to use the numbers and adjust them to today but it’s not the same thing as actually seeing it happen. It’s strictly speculation no matter what stat we pull. That’s all I was getting at. I know what the retort will be so I won’t go back and forth on it. Again I agree MJ gets off but the numbers would be closer to the pack whether we like it or not.
@@Gemini050788 That wasn't the real MJ that Kobe killed. Again, I'm a bigger Kobe fan than MJ fan. I loved that Kobe had the audacity to try to chase MJ. He just didn't have the physical gifts. MJs first run and Kobe's 2nd run are very comparable team wise. Kobe's competition might have been slightly tougher. But Kobe got 2, MJ got 3.
The biggest difference is that when things fell short for Kobe, he blamed himself, not everyone and everything else like what people do now. When Kobe didn't win, he took it personally, trained even harder, and dug deeper. He and MJ had that in common.
Basketball was his life and he was a true professional. #RIPBlackMamba
That’s exactly right. No players today take the kind of responsibilities that Jordan and Kobe did. Certainly never Lebron James. He’s had scapegoats and excuses from the first time he hit the league to this day. And he has failed far more times than he has succeeded.
I remember in 07 . Celtics fans were rocking the lakers team bus as they had just gotten routed in the nba finals.
Kobe used it as fuel and completed back to back championships over the next 2 years.
Players today will get you kicked out of a game for taunting them
@@manz7860 FACTS
Exactly what you say here is what publicly did not helped him. For example in 2004 finals Kobe&Shaq lost them, and years later he appears together with Shaq blaming himself while at that times they were discussing each other " Kobe you don't pass the ball" and "Go for the rebound if a fail the shots", what happen to Kobe later? If he was right then? If then Shaq traded? In that finals Shaq's game was completely guessed and cancelled by Wallace Bros !!!
you and uncut hoops need to collab, some of the only people on youtube still out here showing Kobe the love he deserves
You got 2raw4sport$ tickettv basketball facts 2.0 franchise sports and dreamerspro show David debunking sports narrative showing Vino the respect n love he deserves
Ultimately us Kobe truthers have to stick together. We are few and far between on this platform.
@@skap_attackfacts
@skap_attack keep dropping those videos your giving detailed info on Kobes career ✊🏾✊🏾
2010 Kobe really defeated LeBron, Steph, MJ and prime Magic in the same playoff run that's insane 🔥🔥🔥🐐
Delete this😂
I'm convinced that in this high scoring and fast paced era of basketball that prime Kobe would have averaged at least 40 points a game
Like you say,"The devil really is in the details". Great job 👏👏👏👏👏
🙏❤️🙌
Awesome video! Thank you for keeping Kobe’s greatness alive 🙏
I absolutely love how even when the videos aren't about King James, Skap Attack finds a way to add in hilariously witty digs to keep putting LeFlop in his place.
You gotdamn right 😏😉😂🙏
Bro dont stop with the kobe content your waking me up he truly is a top 3 player
My man! Love to see these comments 🙏❤️🐍
A true champion makes his team better: Bird, Jordan, Kobe etc. Losers need to run to a superteam...
BINGO 💯🛎️
Its funny because they say LeBron makes his teammates better but then blame his teammates when he loses. Its even funnier when they trade half the damn team before the trade deadline because "his teammates were playing like trash"...
@@asundelgun3487 it is “funny” isn’t it 😂
Kobe and Shaq IS a superteam that couldn't win without Phil for a while. They had pretty much the two best players in the league for many years with some highly underrated clutch role players that made big shot after big shot..And had Phil as well..
2004 2013 lakers are superteams.
Your content is always A-One 💯⚡️🍷
I appreciate you 🙏❤️
This video is a great case for why Kobe always belongs in the GOAT conversation
This AND his other ones💯
No it isn’t 😂
Yes and more
@@hardwoodthought1213 no one cares what you think
No it is not a great case. There is no great case for Kobe. 1 MVP in 20 years and 3/5 rings are Shaq's- aside from the horrible efficiency in a lot of playoff runs. Skap just doesn't get into the truth because he is an ignorant casual.
And it feels like media gives Bron more credit for making 8 straight finals in the weakest conference opposed to Kobe facing 50+ win teams left and right including the juggernaut Boston Celtics in the finals without having nearly as much help as LeHelp James
Dude puts down James for losing to Spurs but Kobe gets a pass for losing to the Suns
@@andrewcook1246He didn't give Kobe a pass, he's comparing how the media and LeBron stans always flip the narrative. Lebron getting swept in the 07 finals is an amazing accomplishment for him, but Kobe lost to an equally talented Suns team that he took to a 7 games series but the media and Kobe haters just say Kobe couldn't get out the 1st round. There's no silver lining when Kobe lost
@@Chill_Brill What rock do you live under? James has been more criticized in a year by Skip and Skap, than Kobe did his entire career. Even while enduring rape allegations lmao. But sure. Go off bro. Do a simple YT search for LeBron sucks and Kobe sucks to get a little perspective lol.
Kobe is hated but no one who hates him makes 10 videos about him a week like dear ole Skap Bayless here. Its pretty funny cause 70% of his channels voews are for lebron. So he keeping the light on at espn and all his haters houses
@@andrewcook1246LeBrick didn't only lose to the Spurs....
He got swept by the largest Amount of point difference in NBA history 🤣🤣
I remember them Finals i would have to change channels by the 3rd quarter because the games where already decided🤣🤣🤣
@@slowmojo9355 Thats my point. When LeBron loses he loses to dynasties. GSW, San Antonio, etc. Kobe knows all about getting beat by the spurs too. Kobe got beat by a 0 ring team with the most criticized and one sided player in Nash and is getting fellatiod by this man and apparently you too. He also does not appear to appreciate how good Gasol was and the Lakers too. Also lucky.
Edit: Gasol is one of 4 players to accumulate 20k pts 10kreb and 4k assists. Guess who are the other 4? I'll tell you one thing, its not AD or Chris Bosh or Dwight Howard.
Lebron could hold the all time records in Assists, Rebounds, and Blocks, and he still wouldn't be Top 5 all time. Joke of a player.
I cosign this...
Incredible breakdown my friend. This brought back so many memories, thank you and R.I.P Kobe.
Just when I thought you couldn't tell anymore truth on Kobe......you do it again 💯
Killed it again. Always with the facts and stats to back it up.
Another great video, thanks!!
93-94 Rockets run with only one star player in the great Hakeem was also amazing.
Close but i'd go with '94-95 Rockets. They were the 6th seed and had no other all star players other than Hakeem, and only he and Clyde made the All Nba 3rd team. That was the biggest carry job ever. After that it's the 2003 Spurs and then the 2011 Mavs
@@abdullah82mthat 2 year run was crazy. Every team they faced had at least 2 all-stars except 1 and they beat the teams that had the MVP, the leagues best rebounder on the same team and swept the team with the leagues leading scorer.
Drexlers season with that rockets team is underrated, especially in the playoffs
Truly love this channel for providing accurate NBA history.
KOBE! KOBE! KOBE! LET THIS MANS NAME ECHO IN ETERNITY! REST IN POWER GOAT.
It's so crazy how ppl cant see Kobe is the second greatest of all time..ppl have to go into Advanced analytics to make LBJ the GOAT and that's why advanced analytics were created..to protect the players of today
If you look at advanced metrics, Chris Paul is a the GOAT point guard and Nikola Jokic is the GOAT period lol. I don’t put much stock into those things. I’ve been watching ball since the mid 90s. Kobe and Jordan are by far the best players I’ve ever seen.
He's not stupid
Thats what pisses me off most about lecant, the media says he makes his team mates better, Kobe and MJ made their team mates so good that they won 5 and 6 respectively whereas the chosen one has won 4 with D Wade making him better. I dont understand
Exactly. Also Lebron joins already established all time greats. Pippen and Pau were not great when Kobe and Jordan got them. And Jordan and Kobe turned them both into hall of famers.
@skap_attack oh it's ridiculous. Dope videos by the way, love them
@@ZeeZeeFaa Thank you…and THANK YOU for watching. I appreciate you 🙏❤️
@@skap_attackthey turned them into that? Or they put in the work to make the hof? There’s a difference
@@jasonmoukala8909 Pau without Kobe is a fringe all star. Pau with the Lakers is a Hall of Famer. And it's not like, Pau was young when he was without Kobe, but Pau was in his prime, with and without Kobe, even though his ultimate primes were with Kobe. But without Kobe, I'm pretty sure Pau would not be a household name at all.
I do believe had Andrew Bynum and Trevor Ariza not been injured vs Boston, Kobe would have two three-peats
I totally agree. He went 6 games without them what he going do with them
Amazing video..! Another classic.! Great insight on Pau Gasol. Didn't diminish his legacy at all. He wasn't Kobe's savior. He was his teammate that played his roll very well. Kobe had nothing but love and respect for him. Even gave Pau the upmost credit for the championships they one together when he didn't have to. I don't think I ever heard LeBron credit anybody in his championship teams because he likes to take credit for things that he doesn't even do as if he does it well . We love Kobe and we love Pau..!
Watching NBA basketball from 2008 to 2010 will always be my favorite times I’ve ever watched sports. I was religiously watching my Lakers finally come back from the depths of mediocrity to being a championship contender again…. I haven’t had the same joy watching the NBA since 2010
You and me both! Also coincidentally some fake GOAT decided to break the league and start the super team era in 2011...not mentioning any names or anything.
@@skap_attackFake Goat? You should do some research before you do these videos!
What about the 2020 championship? Did that not give you the same feeling?
@@onemoremic he's gonna say so probably he wants to be littled by Celtics fans smh
@@skap_attackI must have dreamed Pierce, Garnett, Rondo, and Allen teaming up in the late 2000s
This content is gold, the delivery & puns are on point. 😂
Excellent video as per usual by Skap. It highlights what the real ones know - that Kobe was 1 of 1. I think the only thing missing would be highlighting that Kobe was not 100% for approx. 2 of those 3 years as he was dealing with that broken finger on his shooting hand.
Dude, what the heck??? You’re the only one who makes this kinds of analysis, and I applaud you for it.👏🏻
Dirk Nowitzki 2011 is the most impressive I’ve ever seen.
Hakeem Olajuwon in 1994 is also hugely impressive, as is the asterisked Kawhi Leonard-led Raptors run in 2019.
Boston’s 2022 group and Miami’s most recent Finals squad might have had the all-time claim had they prevailed over the Warriors and the nuggets, respectively. Instead, the Warriors capitalized on a cakewalk to the Finals, and Nikola Jokic has officially cemented himself as a Top 15 Player all-time.
The 2013-14 Spurs were more of an ensemble, and made it look so easy, but should also deserve much credit for dismantling the quality of opponents that they did.
Fam you're a legend ALREADY!! I kill the Kobe debates with these videos 🥂🔥💯💪🏾💰
Great video!! You should do a comparison of pau gasol vs Chris Bosh, & Kevin love. Kobe winning with pau is equivalent to lebron winning with just Bosh and no Dwade and winning with just Klove and no Kyrie.
Yeah we know that ain't happening lmao
@@asundelgun3487 why ?
Yes dig that knife in deeper..except bosh was better than Pau
@@businessk3014 pau would be a 3rd option on any of lebrons championship teams.
@@jacobyjonez9900 Which is exactly what Kevin Love and Chris Bosh were.
I've been binge watching these videos. This channel is 🔥
This is why I have Kobe at # 4 all time. One of the greatest ever to lace em up!
Kobe, EASY Mount Rushmore player.
Let me guess LeBron is top 3 for you huh
@@KVJ-w7hWhat makes LeBron top 5
@aaronrooks2703 idk but he's not in my top 5
@@KVJ-w7h you guessed wrong lebron is about 11 but I could put him lower at 14 depending the list and how I am putting it together. 1.Jordan, 1. Kareem, 3.wilt, 4.Kobe, 4.Duncan 6.magic 7 bird 8. Oscar etc. so many players that where better than Lebrun-to-another-team.
Every time your videos start I just can’t help but smile
I love how you show that the Lakers were winning before the Gasol trade. Not many ppl know or talk about that. They act like they traded and then got the number 1 seed when they were already on pace for 54 wins
Exactly I was listening to this idiot on espn saying Pau saved Kobe I was like brih
Let's gooo Kobe! Imagine if Kobe had the roster he needed. I would have love to see that back then. The man deserved it.
Kobe and Larry are the most underrated players of all time.
Both are top 5 lock-ins.
I agree except for Larry. He is rated just about right, not better than LeBron that's for sure.
I got both in my top 5 also
@@bluntfello arguable
@@bluntfello Ehhh I wouldn't be so definitive about that. Bird was a solid 50/40/90 player who was never timid or scared of clutch moments. Not to mention being like 6'10" with an impossible to block shot. In 87 he was 28/10/8 on 53/40/91 efficiency. That's beyond good, that's damn near perfection.
@@SuperSonic_868 He's got less championships than LeBron , way less finals appearances, less MVP's, less points, rebounds, and assist. And he had a loaded team that included Dennis Johnson, Bill Walton, McHale, Parish ....
Thumbs up! The 2007 Lakers were pretty mediocre and the 2008 Lakers were an elite team. Kobe was amazing in both seasons so his supporting cast must have gotten significantly better.
He literally needed ONE decent player. A one time all star in 7 years was enough. He had guys that shouldn't even be starters the two previous seasons.
@@skap_attackA first-ballot hall of famer and one of the best European basketball players of all time is a decent player for you? The list of good players must be pretty short then...
@@hollins625for a career you right. But at the time when he joined the lakers. Pau was 0-12 in the playoffs and wasn't top 3 at his position or top ten. Pau good but not all time great
@@derrickevansjr3564 we evaluate legends by their complete career don't we? We are you from? In Europe we consider Pau an all time great and being a first ballot Hall of famer kind of confirms that to me. He was pretty succesful outside the NBA as well...
@@hollins625Dude Context is everything. Pau Gasol became that Great Because he was Traded and Played with Kobe. We don’t get to Overhype Pau Gasol to Downplay Kobe.
‘We have the same drug guy’ - Chael Sonnen talking about Bron
I love this video, Kobe doesn’t get the true legendary respect he earned, that 2010 lakers where a beast, defeating the Celtics to
My appreciation for Kobe was already at the roof. Now its gone through. Lol That play-off run was insane. I need to let kids know that +50 winning team stat.
YOU DID IT AGAIN....IM TRYNA HELP YOU GROW OUT HERE. KEEP EM COMING RICHARD
HAHAHA I appreciate you! And I’m not Richard Jefferson 😂😂😂
@@skap_attack I know but it's funny as hell. Ima post you on my tiktok
@@THISISRISE LOL I’ve been hearing RJ voice comps since I really started focusing on this channel three months ago 😂
@@skap_attack well keep it up. You're doing something unique and necessary. I think you should do one about the psyche of lebron fans. Like what makes them live him so much despite all of the flaws, flopping, the help etc
You got that Mamba mentality. Thanks for doing Kobe justice. He’s so underrated man. Not right.
Shutup fanboy
Great Video!! You will NEVER hear these facts from the so-called experts at ESPN and Fox Sports when talking about Kobe's legacy.
This might be the greatest video I ever seen. Thank you
THANK YOU! Not only for your support of me, but for your support of the Black Mamba. Long live the legend of Kobe 🙏❤️🐍
MJ and Kobe, needed one good player on their team to win against better teams.
Lebron needed superteams to lose to lesser teams.
Kobe had a top 10 player all time in his peak on his team for over half his titles 😂
2013 Miami a superteam? James averaged more points than Bosh and Wade did COMBINED 😂
@@hardwoodthought1213 Lebron had more help and its not even close - and you told a bold face lie
STATS regarding the Kobe vs Lebron cough "debate"
Lebron has NOT won back to back or any title WITHOUT a 20ppg scorer (all star)
Wade 23PPG in the 4 years playing with lebron
Kyrie 22.3PPG in the 4 years playing with lebron
Davis 24.6PPG
Lebrons 3rd option Kevin love and Chris bosh both averaged 17PPG in the years playing with lebron
with Pau alone
3 straight NBA Finals appearances and he averaged 18.7PPG
CONCLUSION
Lebrons 2nd options(Wade, Irving, Davis) ALL had greater output than Kobes 2nd option (Pau)
and lebrons 3rd option(Love) had just about equal output compared to Kobes 2nd option (Pau)
Kobe did more with less
and if you compare lebrons 8 year run to the finals he averaged 26.5PPG and Kobe as the 2nd option in the 3peat years averaged 25.4PPG
So with slower pace of play Hand checking rules still in place Kobe as a 2nd option had similar output/impact as lebrons prime years going to 8 straight finals
@@JIX9ISLER1986 Yeah he didn’t
14 times in Kobes career a teammate of his made All-NBA that season (Shaq x8, Pau x4, Bynum and Howard x1)
LBJs only had 4 (Wade in 11/12, Kyrie in 17, AD in 20)
Try again
Also, why you using 4 year averages to justify a title win? What did Wade average in 2013?
@@hardwoodthought1213 You are moving the goal post - shaq was an Allstar without kobe but lost in the finals
Bynum was an Allstar AFTER 2010 this was not the finals runs
same with Dwight
nice try
the fact that you are asking me why I am counting 4 year averages tell me you lack reading comprehension - appropriate for a a lebrontard
FINALS/TITLE runs were mentioned
ALL of the players I mentioned were PRIME Allstars that lebron played with en route to his inflated 8 straight finals in a garbage east
this is no debate
@@JIX9ISLER1986you are wasting your breath talking to lebron fans.
They are like flat earthers, but even less knowledgable, most of them barely even watched lebron play.
Skap attack Always coming with hard facts Your documentaries are a thing of beauty, You are definitely the best youtuber hands down 👏👏👏👏💯
Love the channel. Would the 600 points that Jordan “didn’t” hit have something to do with the playoff format back when he was in his prime?
Absolutely. In Jordan's first three peat, he played 17, 22, and 19 games with total points 529, 759 and 666. In his second three peat, he played 18, 19, and 21 games with his total points being 552, 590, and 680. Compared to the 3 seasons referenced in this video, Kobe played 21, 23, and 23 games and his total points being 633, 695, and 691. If you took the averages per game, Jordan averaged more in both his threepeats compared to Kobe. Specially, the first one.
While there is a difference in the number of games due to the format, the Bulls had a better playoff win percentage at 1st & 2nd 3peat, so the smaller number of games than Lakers was the main reason.
@@Pseudog831 exactly. Jordan’s bulls closed out series quicker
Yes it does but Kobe Scoring 600 Pts in 3 Straight Playoff Runs in a Slower Pace and Lower Scoring Era from a Numbers Standpoint is what makes it Standout. It’s not a Knock against MJ who is probably the Only Other Player that Could Do what Kobe Did. Both Lead the NBA Playoffs in Scoring for 3 Straight Years, ofc Jordan did it First but it shows how Underrated Kobe is.
@skap_attack just to add, Kobe had serious injuries throughout 2010 when he had a bone spur and a broken finger IN HIS SHOOTING HAND! Yet did not complain AT ALL!
What I saw was Kobe in a full out of this world mode on. Because of his greatness, we think that those Lakers were like the super teams but in reality, they were just the same Roster from 2007 (Walton, Farmar, Vujacic, Odom, Radmanovic, Ariza) with the addition of Pau and Fisher, improvement of Bynum, and a HUNGRY MAMBA! That's all Kobe needed, a competitive quality team.
Meanwhile these statheads diminish Kobe because of his stats etc. But if you look at the eye test, you'll know, that was a whole different mamba vibe.
GREAT comment here. I agree with every word of this. The revisionist BULLSHIT swirling around him obviously sickens me, and I’m on a mission here to shoot that garbage down.
The Lakers should have beaten Phoenix in '06. They had a 3-2 series lead and led game 6 by 3 with 10 seconds left. Phil Jackson opted NOT TO INTENTIALLY FOUL! Tim Thomas made a 3 tying the game and the Lakers lost game 6. The same thing occurred to the San Antonio Spurs in game 6 vs Miami in the 2013 finals. Popovich not only removed Tim Duncan from the game twice in the final minutes but also failed to deliberately foul twice!
Also the Lakers gave up like 2-3 offensive rebounds on that final possession I believe in game 6 with a 3 point lead until the suns eventually hit the game tying 3. I also am pretty sure Kobe had 50 points that game.
@@skap_attack I think you're right! But they could have fouled preventing a game-tying 3. I've never understood that! Kobe did everything!
If Kwame Brown doesn't go for that Tim Thomas head fake, the Lakers eliminate the Suns. And who knows from there. 2013 is the biggest fluke in the history of bball. If that rebound doesn't bounce to Chris Bosh, no Ray Allen. If Kawhi makes a free throw, no Ray Allen. If Manu make a free throw, no Ray Allen. Luckiest ring ever.
Love this guy's videos! Funny, informative, GOATed!
Skap hating on Lebron is the only consistent thing in my life right now
Just telling the truth lebron has easier competition in the eastern conference with superteams
You can always count on me to be here for you in your life to provide context and truth about the self proclaimed goat.
*telling the truth
Skap is just exposing the files that are being swept under the rug by the liberal sports media and the LeBron jock sniffers
@@eazymoneymane7789😅
Excellent video and breakdown as always Skap 💪🏾keep em coming
Of course!! And thank you for continuing to watch em for me! I really appreciate that 🙏❤️🙌
@skap_attack I'm here for the long haul. You have some of the best content on UA-cam, this is God's work
Skap you might have the best basketball channel on UA-cam keeo going sir
I am flattered at the high praise. THANK YOU
Another reason why Kobe is one of the best was his impact on popularizing the game in China.
Kobe did all kinds of summer promotional tours in China back in the 90s and 2000s. He would go on and put on great shows to entertain the fans. He went to the 3rd and 4th Tier cities that were real shit holes that the Shanghaiese and Hong Kong Chinese would not touch with a ten foot pole. A lot of the fans that went to see him were poor working stiffs who would skip work and take a huge risk in getting fired to go see Kobe. He was giving everything including the shoes and shirts he was wearing and that stuff would be worth 3 months pay to a few lucky fans.
The Mamba Mentality was also in the spirits of the Chinese workers who built up the country into the economic juggernaut it is today. Don't forget the biggest Kobe memorabilia collector is a self made Chinese millionaire.
He help to popularize basketball in China. Only Yao Ming and David Stern did more.
In a 1999 interview, Phil Jackson revealed he could never trust Shaquille O’Neal as his team leader because of his poor free-throw shooting ability. Phil Jackson : “Look, you’ve got to deliver in the clutch if you’re going to be the leader, and if you can’t make free throws…” Shaq took the duties of a team leader and primary option, but thankfully, Jackson also had Kobe Bryant, who would be the GO-TO BALL-HANDLER in clutch situations for the Lakers franchise.
So to be clear, in 2000 for example when Shaq AVERAGED 32/16/3/2 for the entire playoffs, Kobe was as good averaging 21/3/4 because he was a better FT shooter 😂
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Did you not read my comment? Phil Jackson stated Shaq couldn’t be the leader of the team because he couldn’t depend on him down the stretch. Shaq was a liability. Shaq also always came to camp out of shape. That’s why Kobe was his Go-To player. Phil Jackson thought Kobe was more valuable to the Lakers franchise because he was better defensively and was more clutch. These are the words of Phil Jackson not mine. It was proven by the fact that the Lakers traded Shaq, and Kobe lead the Lakers to back to back championships. Whereas, Shaq never led a team to another championship without Kobe. The Miami Heat was DWade’s team. Shaq was there but he wasn’t the leader.
@@user-li2ir5ss5pall facts dude didn't wanna hear it. Just throwing out stats 😂😂😂 and Kobe was hurt through the 2000 playoffs not just finals. And again when shaq fouled out in game 5 of the finals guess who seals the deal
@@user-li2ir5ss5p Right, but you’re claiming he said this when, 1999?
Shaq was 2nd in DPOY voting in 2000…
I can name a dozen players from those teams who said Shaq was the leader. Fisher himself said when asked why the early 2000 Lakers were so good ‘Shaq, without hesitation’
Phil Jackson said in 2004 Kobe was a bad defender
Phil Jackson said in 2004 he wasn’t surprised Kobe was accused of rape
Jackson said in 2006 Kobe was uncoachable
Phil Jackson said in 2011 that LA would not likely win again because Kobe resorted back to stupid gunning plays and blame defecting
You agree with all of that, right?
@@derrickevansjr3564 How does LA winning with Kobe being injured help Kobes case? It literally shows his team was so good with him being outscored by Austin Croshere he could still win 😂
I love the Game 5 (it was actually game 4) references, but ignoring Shaq won games 1 and 2 with Kobe scoring a TOTAL of 12 points 😂😂😂😂😂😂
You are an amazing person and I love watching your video. They are very educational. Thank you.
Even in death kobe doesn't get the respect he deserved r.i.p. Thank you skap for the vid duration this man deserves. Kobe made the one mistake they made him pay for the rest of his career, Colorado. Pau Gasol was never the difference maker they claimed him to be, just the excuse they needed to give Kobe partial credit for a resume full of extra credit.
LeBron's run is the best. 10 NBA finals appearance.. most in modern NBA history and still going.
As a MJ Stan I adore Kobe great player and got as close as being good as MJ like know one ever did.
Your content brings a smile to my face. Keep shining your light! 😊🎬
If the NBA was seeded 1-16, Kobe would have 7 rings or more
I agree with this. And I also believe Lebron would have 2 or less 😂.
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💯💯💯💯🔥🔥🔥 thank you Skap for HIGHLIGHTING THE TRUTH!!!
great video by Skap Attack once again! The one video I wished someone could put together, hint hint, is to show a comparison between Kobe (RIP) and Lebron...✌
You know I’m the perfect person to do it 😂. And I am planning on it. It will be a LENGTHY one for sure.
@@skap_attack Facts, as always…. We appreciate the time, energy, and effort you put into your videos…it’s refreshing to see and hear truth in this age of lies, fake news, and false narratives…. We will be on the lookout for your next video and will be sure to share it with others…✌️👍👌🎤🔥
@@stevenaleman7454 I appreciate you! 🙌👊💪❤️🙏
Talk about context. Great work!
Skap Attack is the heavy weight champion of the world. He keeps knocking out these false narratives. Great video 👍
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@@skap_attackyou really do bro keep up the good work
1.MJ
2.Kareem
3.Bill Russell(at the expense of wilt)
4.kobe
5.Duncan
6.shaq
7.Lebron
8.wilt