New Tanky Secondary Battleship - Sun Yat-Sen First Impressions
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- Even now while I upload this I kinda regret getting so frustrated at the game, but I'll still upload the video. It's good for you to know that I'm not always happy and positive while playing World of Warships. I also think this is a great look at the downsides of a very expensive ship.
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The Torpedo Protection bullcrap is working against shells but not against from torpedoes. Lmao
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Because the torpedos are so high in the water in this game? XD
Yeah, you honestly have to aim a bit higher. Aiming waterline gives you tons of torpedo protection hits, demonstrated perfectly in the video. I don't think it SHOULD work that way, but that's the way it works.
@@oedipusdrex It depends on your guns as some ships have more torpedo protection than others.
@@oedipusdrex It's because the main belt armor is directly behind the torpedo protection. The shells overmatched the 25 mm torpedo protection layer and then bounced and/or shattered on the angled main belt behind it. If the shells landed higher (either bad aim or aim bug lol, impossible to tell) they would have overmatched the 25 mm upper belt and he would have had full pens. If the shells landed on the ship's stern they would have overmatched and may have citadelled the Yodo through the stern.
Of course if the Yodo was more broadside (even another 10 degrees or so), aiming waterline would absolutely be better.
And I'm sure PQ knows all this, but he was understandably upset with these matches.
FWIW, I'm sure the Yodo had a really boring game too. He only had two BB's sitting in spawn to shoot at (both of which overmatch him everywhere), so he couldn't get much damage there. So he went to B to cap it. After he capped it PQ was there so he couldn't go anywhere else. Eventually when the game was won he popped out to try to torp PQ but missed. He angled against PQ and then got annihilated by the St Vincent. I'd be surprised if he got over 120k damage that game, and that's only possible if the St Vincent let some fires burn and he got some damage on the Edgar I didn't see.
Watching PQ's slowly declining sanity is a real treat
I think it's funny as hell!
Do you?
its the pained laughter that keeps me coming back
Those 3 Overpens on Conquerer and his RNG with the fires actually crushed a piece of my soul too bruh
i can always tell if i am on the winning or losing teams early on in games based on how many shells hit and what damage they do. it is like RNG flips a coin at the start for your team and the outcome has been pre-decided. just like pro wrestling, the people in charge already know who will win the match because it is in the script.
This video, with all the differences between game knowledge and hability, shows what this game causes on the vast majority of players. The desperation, which usually turns into rage, because despite of having a good position, despite having a full broadside ship in front, the RNG laughs at you. And that without talking about the matchmaker, supership addition and CVs and submarines...
One of the best videos you have done. Really.
Thank you.
Citadels on BBs should be almost guaranteed, that Conqueror should have taken way more damage. And Wg must stop giving all new ships underwater citadels... Alongside of course, removing CVs and subs, obviously.
@@solidtoto Removing CVs and subs is everyone dreams but WG will add more of those monstrosity in the future.
@@solidtoto They should at least add some better counter potential.
What else do you expect from unregulated casinos?
The sad reality is that that kind of gameplay is how you keep bad players engaged (and paying), so it will never change, at least not for the better. High levels of RNG increase the skill floor and lower the skill ceiling, which ensures that you can get moments of success even if you consistently make bad decisions. Hearthstone used the same principle, and it ruined that game for me as well.
Thank you for posting a battle where things don't go well, this is what my games normally look like
same here
People underestimate the benefit Georgia's speed boost brings her. Her ability to relocate or push flanks makes it easier to use her guns and secondaries. I would not trade that for more armor.
GA: Yeeeeeet!
I mean it's not just speed Georgia gets, you can hybrid build a Georgia seeing as the only thing you lose is a small reload boost to your secondarys to use Arty Plot Room 2 for 11% better dispersion, plus you have more overall guns, and a faster stock reload on your more secondary guns than Yat-Sen can get max on it's fewer guns.
Yat-Sen is far closer to a Gneisenau than a Georgia. Though in a lot of ways, even Gneisenau out performs Yat-Sen. That's honestly likely why PQ suffered so much, this isn't a T9 ship, it's T9 guns on a basically T7 hull.
Cross eyed 6 gun BB disperion tells a sad story... Should ve get toxic Thunderer instead of this thing back then.
@@gothia1715 I have both, I prefer Georgia every day of the week.
@@hallasnackbar1865 Same, Tbh i haven't been playing nor Georgia nor Thunderer from quite some time. BTW I use speed boost modification to make Georgia fast like a cruiser for longer time. Bassically i play Georgia more like its mid-range cruiser.
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over while expecting things to change.
Meanwhile PQ when he specks another BB into full secondaries:
The ships still work, but require a very different play style these days. You are mid/late game firepower and you will be hard countered a lot of the time by CV's and have to play around it.
how a light cruiser can take 3 BB shells into torpedo protection and get out intact... no flood etc...
Historic acurate
Arcade game. Want more "realism" there is War Thunder.
if you expect that from warships let me tell you something: you're playing the wrong game lmaoo
@@Clearwood_ And WT is garbage anyways.
They are doing to this game what they did to tanks. They are killing it. Stopped playing tanks and I’m finding something else.
AP penetration under waterline will cause flooding back in CBT era afaik.
One day. One day Potatoes calmness will break and we'll get a 3-4h video about everything that is going wrong in this game.
Godspeed pro vegetable.
That will be after he has a plan to get himself off dependence on WG compensation, and ready to handle the revenge of WG staff.
"it's just rocket planes, how much could they do?!"
famous last words
That 3 shells converged in perfectly towards Conqueror superstructure and dealt overpens?! Or did they just fall short, as usual? What the..?
EDIT; Bro this video was so frustrating to watch, but also shows the reality so goddamn well. That Yodo surviving, The United States (Very creative name, yes) dealt over 30k with 2 bomb strikes... Yesterday I played 4 matches, we lost all of them and all were blowouts. The *very well so balanced* matchmaking made sure that we had more than half players who had no idea what to do.
I understand how you don't want to make your videos in a negative narrative but you're REAL. That's more important to me than anything else. You show the good, and the bad.
WG insulting us with their constant reasons not to have a skill based MM...
...and all the toxic unicum clans pushing hard to not lose the potato farm that strokes their ego.
Someone in chat mentioned to Boggzy, during their recent patch stream, about the tier 9 experience. He said it was fine because they can see all the numbers and tier 9 is performing perfectly normal...
Honestly, since superships have been added, I haven't noticed anything in my tier 9 ships. I'd still rather be bottom tier in a tier 9 than bottom tier in a tier 7.
@@dzello that's the real nightmare. Tier 7 vs tier 9.
@@kpatt2006 It is but a lot of people think tier 9 is unplayable thanks to superships. And honestly, I still find tier 7 worse.
I bought the battleship SUN YAT-SEN
I regret the purchase. I do not advise anyone to buy it!!!
1) The battleship's life was reduced by 8000 compared to the Soviet Union.
Reduced the waiting time for battleship repairs from 40 seconds to 80 seconds.
Which reduced the survival rate of the ship in battle.
2) Made a caliber of 457 mm, increased the rate of fire, and the speed of rotation of the towers.
And they put 6 barrels.
BUT they reduced the armor penetration by reducing the weight of the projectile from 1,373 kg to 1,000 kg.
Damage from 14,500 to 13,000
During the battle 3-4 times shells fall above and below the enemy ship.
Damage 1300, 2600 less often 4900.
The enemy gives 6-10k damage in response
As a result, the battleship is inferior to all 9th-level bonuses, by about 30-35%
Such as: Musashi, George, German battleships, John Baru, Ilinoisu.
The site administration removes all objective reviews about this battleship.
The battleship needs an increase in sigma and or an increase in the weight of the projectile to 1,373 kg, or the velocity of the projectile to 870 m.
3/10 for the ship but 10/10 for a funny video. You realy managed to encapsulate the full BB experience at T9.
Tier IX is ultimate pain for secondary BBs
The pommern does well though....
Nah.
People who think so are just revealing they aren't skilled enough to adapt to being -2 tiers.
I really appreciate how you try to see everything from a positive view, even though it often times is rough to play. Nice video though, thanks for sharing! :)
I feel you PQ. BBs are just one-armed bandits. But maybe you have better chances in Airship Escort mode?
The experience for a DD main these days sucks too. Too m any planes. But WG don't give a fig. Shame. A lot of my clan have been playing since beta. Now we barely play at all.
@@christopherteichmann8104 Dont forget enormous radar that lasts forever being added on every single ship, too.
You forgot to mention blind too.
That frustration when the guns did almost no dmg, i feel that.
Had a game yesterday in my Kidd with 20 sec. left on clock and enemy had 10 points advantage when i spotted an ibuki at 1k hp flat broadside.
I struggled so hard to hit it because every shell felt short and it felt like i was fighting some aiming adjustment thingy. At the end the ibuki survived 3-4 salvos with 500hp left and we lost.
I wanted to punch through my screen, but turned the game of instead and walked off my PC.
Yep, been there myself. Only difference is I actually did punch my computer screen. One computer screen smashed and poorer by $600.
21:17 You know that there's some serious fundamental game mechanic design issues when the only guy on the map pushing is in a ship specifically designed NOT to push. lol.
PQ - could you, just for the sake of argument, play a game with a non-secondary build? Something more like what you'd do with Satsuma or Slava?
Edit: the reason I ask is because Georgia/Ohio have the benefit of being able to take slot 3 secondary module and slot 6 accuracy module - so giving the Sun Yat-Sen the best possible dispersion, I'd like to see how it compares to Georgia in main guns.
Then what would he cry about?
That's the gimmick of the channel I presume. Spec into secondaries to whine about other aspects of the ship that are actually good about it
Lol, this is one of my fav PQ videos. Keep up the good fight!
Have I ever told you the definition of insanity?
It's playing secondary battleships over and over and over again, expecting things to change.
Insanity is playing this game over and over again, knowing that it's suffering, trying to find fun in it.
This looks like a difficult ship to play. Either spec into secondaries or spec the main guns with an AA captain. Guess it comes down to if you're playing it in Randoms or competitive... love your vids man, keep it up!
You absolutely shouldn't ever spec this thing into secondaries. The Izumo has better secondaries than this, with more effective DPM and fire starting. I get that people see it has improved secondary dispersion and just assume it's a good secondary ship, but it 100% isn't. It's both lacking in range has much less DPM than Georgia, which isn't at the top of the pack for secondaries anyways.
Which makes Georgia still the better T9 Premium BB, but the problem with her is that she takes too much damage in the super structure
@@sameerkharade7750 Absolutely Georgia is better. It's also not in the game anymore. So this makes Sun Yat Sen the only t9 BB still purchasable with 30mm overmatch. Sun Yat Sen's not anything too crazy, but if you like Soyuz and want something with 30mm overmatch it's not bad either.
Just, you know, don't let yourself be fooled into thinking it's a secondary ship.
Just FYI, ANY ship with defAA consumables does NOT have good AA. The consumable is there as a BAND AID, not as a means to make the ship good.
Sun Yat-Sen, is neither a secondary battleship, nor an AA battleship.
You want to spec for her main guns (reload can get down to 20 seconds or less) and survivability, like most battleships.
WG trying to pretend that she is anything but this is just them being known scam artists.
Did you really think, a secondary build on a ship with only 12 secondaries and a 3.8 seconds reload time would work? That is just a gimmick
Usually I lovee the positivity vibe from your videos. They make me want to play. They make me believe that WoWs could be a fun game from time to time.
But
Being a crybaby or overly negative or keeping on complaining is different from being realistic, and I think what we get to see in game 3 is, realistically, what the average WoWs game is going to look like in the very near future, especially with even more planes coming.
Hell, it is already the average game on the Asia server, with as many CVs queueing up as BBs and sub already populating the queue
His Whining about main guns when he specs for secondaries is making you want to play? He just sounds like a random 49% teammate
@@virusproofficial1086 judging people from the one video where he complains and ignoring the hundreds where he doesn't
okay bud
@@eidel3197 'hundreds' bro there is a difference when playing actual ships and some abominations that you're supposed to build differently. He has no reason to complain when he talks about an aspect of the ship he neglected.
@@virusproofficial1086 sure dude just keep taking the piss, no one cares
@@eidel3197 are you mad your fav content creator is a crybaby or what lol?
I honestly can't get behind a secondary build on this ship, it just doesn't have the weight of fire to justify it. I mean it has a total of 12 152mm guns, and given the placements of the guns only really 4 are going to be realistically firing at a target. Added to that this ship is kind of slow, 28 knots for a T9 secondary boat puts it even slower than Iwami with a lower over all DPM, plus Iwami at least also gets torpedoes for helping in a close range brawl and they both have the same range. Paired with Iwami actually having the default accuracy to not really mind giving up the main gun dispersion and reload buffs, while Sun Yat-Sen has a kind of rough 1.9 sigma for ignoring the main gun dispersion mod as you have just above German accuracy on only 6 guns.
None of this is really helped by secondary's being fairly meh to begin with, makes playing a ship that is rather under-gunned rather annoying. I personally can't even get behind Georgia or really any of the American "secondary" ships actually being used as secondary builds. Hybrid builds sure, you have nothing else really worth taking in slot 3, you may as well take the 20% range and dispersion boost, but the 127mm guns are near worthless, and even the 152mm guns on Sun Yat-Sen are nearly worthless without that 32mm HE pen threshold being met. Otherwise it's only useful at dealing damage to DD and Cruisers.
9:56 it's 7% of a radius, so a total of 14% better dispersion over all. As it's 7% from the vertical and horizontal. That's literally why everyone was losing their shit over Dead-Eye, it was a 10% radius.
14:06 It sucks playing secondary battleships with 6 guns, and even more so playing a secondary battleship with 6 main guns and only 6 secondary's. GK does fine due to volume of fire from both main and secondary guns, but you can't be impatient, you can't rush. Even FDG would be better to play compared to Yan-Sen as a secondary ship. The extra range lets you take up better safe-ish supporting positions while still getting your secondary's to fire. For some context for how much not having that range hurts, you have only 1km more secondary range than a Gneisenau, with the same main gun count, same main gun reload, and Gneisenau has better secondary's. As it gets roughly 12 guns firing at any given target, where you only get 6, and it's guns fire faster and pen 32mm natively. Only to really add salt to the wound, Gniesenau is faster than you, has basically the same concealment as you, has only 20k less AP DPM than you, has a better turning circle, has better rudder shift. The only 3 ways Yat-Sen are really better than a Gniesnau is HP, AA and overmatch. So secondary battleships can work, but only when the ship isn't effectively 2 tiers to high but with big fancy 457mm guns.
Another 6 gun ship is rough, even if she can be built as a secondary ship, at that tier. I honestly find tier 9 to be the worst tier in the game now with subs, CV's, super ships, super HE spam, and now the hybrid line. You rarely get top tier in 9, and you will suffer as bottom tier in most games. You really need to hope your teammates are capable of doing work and the majority of the carry.
Also the aim bugs and weird shot dispersion is killing things. I see it so often from me firing and others.
Why would anyone build Sun Yat Sen as a secondary ship?
You only get six guns per side...with longish reload. Also, they are short ranged...max range by sacrificing EVERYTHING is 10km.
Build Sun Yat Sen for main battery reload and survivability.
Good old World of Warships, where 18" shells can get 'overpens' on waterline hits on battleships...
Pretty sure an 18" shell, passing through a hull at waterline (even if it doesn't detonate) is going to do significant damage to machinery and even cause flooding...
But no, 1,500dmg for an overpen, even if it goes through the boilers...
you are saying WG hates you in the MM/RNG, well this week i have gone 3-16, 0-8, 2-9, and 3-10. i could be AFK and likely have a better win rate. i just don't know how i get put on the flank dropping middle spawn camping teams so often.
someone worked out that 7% is more like 17% better dispersion or something
we have to remember, ts 7% sigma, 7% vertical dis, and 7% horizontal dis
No, it's just 7% better horizontal dispersion, but the way the area of an ellipse is calculated means a 17% difference
It's not. It reduces the radius of the ellipse by 7% which is a reduction the area of the ellipse by 17%. However, the odds of your shells landing in the middle of the ellipse rather than near the edge is dependant on sigma so reducing the area by 17% does not mean a better accuracy by 17% either. The odds of shells landing in the outer 17% of the ellipse is much lower so removing that part by tightening the ellipse is a slight gain in accuracy only.
Both back & front turret angle slightly better than Georgia (28° vs 30°), not as ridiciluous as Petro front 25°.
- Soviet 152mm secondary, reach fast, flat trajectory, a bit easier to hit than Georgia but it has much lower volume.
- Georgia 2 & 3.5 km has more dps than Yat Sen 4 km AA w/ Def AA, also more than 2x 5.8 km base dps and 2x flak count.
no need to apologize, this is WOWS nowadays..frustrating as hell..in fact, you were quite calm and reserved given the circumstances..i had to buy a new keyboard last time i played the game..
again.
What ship list mod are you running?
Btw… you slow fall into secondary insanity is spectacular…lol
The, "I hate playing WOWs sometimes man, this game sucks bro!" @12:52 I can't stop laughing 😆 🤣 😂. It was the best cause I feel these moments almost every time I play it. So I play it less.
its the first time i hear someone complaining with such style... you are an intelligent man..i enjoyed the video
30:30 Let it out. Tell us what you really feel. You're the veteran here.
i think 3.8 seconds for 2ndary reload is slow....GK, monty, mass, Georgia probably highest i go for 2ndary at 3.4 seconds
"I think the game hates."
Me with uptiered matches and constant disconnects: "First time?"
Well, this video basically sums up the reason for me to switch to cruiser from a KM BB main.
Sun Yat Sen has TERRIBLE secondaries. Anyone thinking this is a secondary ship does not understand what makes good secondaries or is drinking the WG Kool-Aid.
Sadly, Potato here is taking WG sales statements at their word....an extremely foolish thing to do.
This thing does NOT have good secondaries. Yes it has improved dispersion however it severely lacks volume of fire resulting in a very poor dpm. Add to that the relatively short range on the secondaries and it becomes clear that this is not a good secondary ship.
Oh, it was entertaining. Just not in the way we expected.
WG's probably pretty happy though. "Ah, now finally the people who play our game will see how pointless surface ships are and switch to playing only CV/susmarines."
Stopped playing WOWS a while ago and found this video of an new cool looking Secondary BB, but after this matches and complaining i am still happy to not play WOWs :D
Wait does the prime gaming drop mean that we will be getting it for free with Amazon, or that we will have a chance of getting it for free?
Wondering that too
I reckon it’ll be a rent from prime gaming. Sometimes they give you a ship for a week or whatever so you can try it out. Not sure though
I think he means we will get x amount of containers that could drop this.. they wont give a T9 for free.. probably usual panasian bb pattern, like wujing/bajie.. dubs only or containers
You will have a chance to get it for free. They did that with pommern as well a while back
A one-time gamble with 1% chance to get her.
Georgia’s tanking comes from sheer speed. This is just a big punching bag.
I have never experienced the frustration alot of players have faced. I don't bring my emotions to the PC. Maybe I'm just mild manner. But the key is too not get too overly emotionally attached to the game. Have fun! Shoot ships and if you die, just pick another and keep going. Anger and fustrations equal to NO FUN and I can understand it. Just something that never effects me or my game time.
I've just "claimed" the prime drop and from all possible random prises I got this one with a commander of 3 points and a slot, I guess I am lucky with another tier IX premium ship :)
I'm surprised that the game hasn't died yet to WG's persistent "ideas". I'm not afraid to complain about WoWs current state at all but it's sad where the game is now. I don't mind CV's that much tbh but subs are probably the worst addition to the game. As much as i love this game it's just unplayable now and so infuriating.
The very soon future even will be more passive by hybrid ships presence. more planes, more spotter, more snipe etc etc you couldn't use concealment anymore. just like this video showed, even to bring the ship to nearest island took chunk of damage. Really frustration gameplay
I don't understand why the apology is needed. I get the content side of it but id guess the vast majority of us agree.
We're all passionate about the game, we care about its direction and how it evolves.
It's like a disappointed parent. There's not much we can do, but we just accept things as it is. dang, I miss the days where secondary BB's and Sec Cruisers for that matter were relevant.
This is why I only play Thunderer and Conq. Only AP I play is Monty, Ohio and Berger. I no longer play IX Sit back and watch the world burn.
You complain so litle...you have to complain more. that game was not even a bad one. half my games after 5 min game my team lose 8 ships. the other half games I got focused by a super carrier and die in 4 shots.
PQ find another game that brings you joy and make a few videos on that. This game is on the down swing with the copypasta ships and studio sell offs. its got a shelf life, diversify.
I don’t comment much, but I cannot resonate enough with your pain in this video… I loved this game but watching it go down hill for greed has sucked. I try now and again to play a few games but I end up being so mad and angry that it just isn’t healthy for me.
I’m okay with the pain man, you should come out with a series where you comedically complain in a positive manner as you play. “Oh hell yeah a double cut against me” just my luck! Oh heck yeah follow with a double fire”
17:56 Ship request: FDR, United States, Eagle, or Nahkimov. You know you deserve it. Channel your inner Flambass.
Sad to watch you go from super excited to play to crushed. Unless you play certain ships with a particular play style you might as well not play at all, lol what a stupid strategy for WG
This is first video I watch on your channel. Subscribed because of all this passive aggresive comments, you got me there ;)
no worries on the complaints. Watching misery and suffering is entertaining. Maybe I should be a CV main...
Why in the world would you EVER build this for secondaries? They're not good, at all. It's got 18k lower hitting DPM than Georgia at 10km, it's got less range, and it can't take the main gun accuracy mod in Slot 6 like Georgia can to compensate for the loss the 7% accuracy in slot 3. This is absolutely not a secondary ship, at all. IZUMO has more effective secondaries than this thing, with 4k more hiting DPM at t10km and better fire starting.
I thnk people REALLY need to stop comparing this to Georgia. Georgia is super fast and has decent secondaries that require minimal investment. Sun Yat Sen is slower, tankier, and has absolutely garbage secondaries. The only similarity between the two is that they carry 3x2 457mm gus, nothing else is the same. Sun Yat Sen isn't Soviet flavored Georgia, it's literally just a stripped down Kremlin with a better dispersion formula. It's very tanky bow on, it's got that 30mm overmatch, and it has battlecruiser dispersion with a 1.9 sigma.
So funny to see you get tilted once in a while. Thinking I'm staying away from this ship, yea.
you are right about this game anymore, every patch is just a new failure for the player base. it's all about buying prem ships and also for all the random bundles. until players start closing their wallets it will never change.
Wait, this one will be on Prime rewards? That doesn't sound right, I doubt WG is giving out 19k dubs for whatever the Prime sub costs.
They will probably have a container that gives a low drop rate for one. Expect to actually get green economic boosts instead. If they actually give it away to everyone that would insane, and I'm not sure if that says things are bad for the game...
on the reverse coin i seem to have much better odds receiving ships out of the prime containers than the other containers in game. shrug prolly luck….
1% to get her from the one-time Prime thingy.
Potato be carefull you start sounding like flamu, they will remove you soon XD
I happened to get this thing out of the Prime drop. I was surprised at my luck. I'm looking forward to giving it a try.
Helloooo
@@DontAttme Hello there
I have an average damage of 45.000 on the battleship Sun Yat-sen
On other battleships, 70,000 - 80,000 damage.
Other players have the same thing.
This whole vid comes off as PQ's Joker moment lmao, can't say I blame him
Superships suck if you're T9. They need to got to +1/-1 mm for all ships, or definately above t8.
Potato Quality on the bridge while the ship is on fire and barely afloat:
"This is fine"
I was considering installing again, thanks ;)
I disagree about CV players and saying it's not their fault for playing CVs. Sure, the game designers are at fault but no one is making the players choose that class. THEY are the ones choosing it. If anyone plays this game for any length of time they'll quickly realize just how much the typical player base hates CVs. So, yes, I personally blame the players because they are ultimately the ones that incentivize the class such that WG continues to push it. They're the griefers of WOWS.
True that. The same could be said of the sort of brain dead fool that keeps submarines alive. I quit playing the game over a year ago because of that one.
Oh and I legit feel your pain here I used to play this game all the time but have Switched to war thunder world tanks and Tarkov to get some relief from the mental torture this game is now a days with the direction they are going
Secondary builds have always been impractical since the beginning.
This video is pretty much why I’m taking a long break once my premium time runs out. Im so tired of my shells missing and every other ship just crushing me.
This game is still fun. Sometimes. But for 2 games a session instead of 2 hours a session.
I have to say - the apology/complaint circle may have been the funniest part of any video I've seen so far in 2023.
Your complaints are warranted. This is what happens when you put a ton of development into Hybrid Battleships, Sub, and Carriers. Something is bound to be left out.
You sure u arent in the bismark?? Looks like your rudder is stuck...
tbh I think a video dedicated to toxic PQ would be pretty funny
your video was a reality we who play deal with. Along with subs.
Dude I was playin the Dunkerque and I know it’s not the greatest but holy shit I got so many fires in my games dumbest shit ever one HE shell hit boom fire. I probably had 10 or more in one game and kept happening so stupid.
I'm pretty sure at some point this video became a cry for help
Those secondaries look like they're about as good as french secondaries. Hard pass on this one.
It says so much about this game and the development when EVEN YOU cant stay positive and end with the wish to stop playing this game for a couple of days.
Can it really be a secondary boat with only 6 guns per side? Seems a bit lackluster
Overpen, overpen, overpen. Wging's use of overpens to manipulate match outcome has gotten completely out of control. I pretty much just stopped playing BBs when my overpen average got to 90%+: and that's with 20,000+ games played, and 35%+ main battery hit %.
That shot at 12:24, from 10km with a 5 second shot travel time against a broadside Conqueror is a perfect example: 4 of those 6 shots went directly into the belt. The ship was almost flat broadside. Sun Yat-Sen's 457mm AP rounds have a 76mm fuse arming threshold (not taking into consideration AP normalization, which might increase the arming threshold to some value slightly more than 76mm.)
Conqueror (target ship) has 406mm of citadel armor at the waterline, and 45mm below. The 45mm below waterline citadel armor can only be accessed after the shell passes through the water (in this game, water instantly arms AP shells regardless of AP arming threshold). The 45mm below waterline citadel armor is also protected by a 279 mm torpedo belt the shell would have to penetrate before it reached the 45mm section of the below waterline citadel armor.
Even if we assume that Conqueror's turn to port lowered her lower casemate armor to the waterline and PQ's shells impacted on the lower casemate armor, that plate is also 406mm thick, and runs from in front of the forward turrets, all the way back to behind the rear turrets.
Sun Yat-Sen's 457 AP has a fuse timer of .033, and a penetration of 633mm at a range of 10km, the engagement range in the video. Sun Yat-Sen's AP shells have an initial velocity of 800m/s, but at a range of 10km, Sun Yat-Sen's AP shells are traveling at 665 m/s at impact. After armor contact, the AP shells will travel no more than 21.9 meters before detonating. Conqueror is 268m long and has a beam of 37m.
In short, if the rounds landed as depicted in the video, there is no possible way that four 457mm AP shells, fired from a distance of 10km, overpenetrated straight through a 406mm armor belt, fully traversed 37m of ship beam, penetrated through the opposite side 406mm armor belt, and exited out the other side of the Conqueror before detonating.
This is just another example of Wargaming manipulating the mechanics, including converting citadel hits to overpenetrations, in order to manipulate the outcome of a match.
The absurd torpedo protection hits at 28:59 is just icing on the cake. The level of outright RNG manipulation going on is just absurd: there is no other word to describe it. Wargaming has taken what was once a great game, and destroyed it.
Bro your aim is just shit stop coping so hard
@@unshiftedcobra7439 You may be correct, and you are as entitled to your opinion as I am to mine. It is the nature of opinions, however, that it can often be difficult to measure or quantify their decree of "correctness" or truth. However, as to your opinion that "your aim is just shit", we do have independent, quantifiable numbers that can provide some insight into how accurate that opinion may be. After more than 20,000 games played, I have a main battery gun accuracy of 54% in co-op, 38% in ranked, and 34% in randoms. 20,000+ games is a sufficient sample size from which to draw conclusions, and 34% -54% main battery gun accuracy is at least some evidence that my aim is, while perhaps not exemplary, substantially better than "just shit".
ESPORTS READY GAME! WATCHING PRO PLAYERS SPINNING IN CIRCLES IN SPAWN BECAUSE THEY CAN'T PUSH FORWARD WITHOUT BEING PUNISHED! FASCINATING GAMEPLAY! ESPORTS READY GAME!
That last game, i have so many games like this. This means i have PQ level gameplays! Yess!
This ship with sec spec should be good for the Airship escort mode, but ramdoms you're probably better with main gun accuracy
Her secondaries are too short ranged, too slow firing, and too few.
You are better off with main gun reload (can get it 20 seconds or less).
Commentary is hilarious. I feel your pain.
I feel your pain about T11 carriers and light cruisers being much more tanky than BBs..
since i've gotten this ship, i lost every single battle (like 10 in a row). Whether it was my mistakes, rng, or MM. I just couldn't pull out that win.
You are probably the first non-russian wows youtuber who can pronounce the name of the Sovyetsky Soyuz correctly
10:36 I love how PQ accidently prefer to call an enemy sub instead of allied sub. Understandable after what Both Hannovers went through. (i am just trolling)
I want a 2nd-ary weapons booster activation. That would be sick.
Play legends then. All battleships have secondary boosters there
No need to apologise PQ, WoWs is just fucked.
At the very least you're performing a public service by curing any desire i had to logging in.
15:11
What you do is
Forget every other ship and only play st. vincent and you take away the fun and enjoyment from others for yourself!
(Its evil)
Did I just watch the video that broke PQ?
"The Island Therapy session" :)
I bought the battleship SUN YAT-SEN
I regret the purchase. I do not advise anyone to buy it!!!
1) The battleship's life was reduced by 8000 compared to the Soviet Union.
Reduced the waiting time for battleship repairs from 40 seconds to 80 seconds.
Which reduced the survival rate of the ship in battle.
2) Made a caliber of 457 mm, increased the rate of fire, and the speed of rotation of the towers.
And they put 6 barrels.
BUT they reduced the armor penetration by reducing the weight of the projectile from 1,373 kg to 1,000 kg.
Damage from 14,500 to 13,000
During the battle 3-4 times shells fall above and below the enemy ship.
Damage 1300, 2600 less often 4900.
The enemy gives 6-10k damage in response
As a result, the battleship is inferior to all 9th-level bonuses, by about 30-35%
Such as: Musashi, George, German battleships, John Baru, Ilinoisu.
The site administration removes all objective reviews about this battleship.
The battleship needs an increase in sigma and or an increase in the weight of the projectile to 1,373 kg, or the velocity of the projectile to 870 m.
I bought the battleship SUN YAT-SEN and it's a pity for the money spent.
Don't take it!!!
I have about 35% more damage on any pumped battleship.
I have about 45% more damage on any battleship.
SUN YAT-SEN needs an increase in sigma and armor penetration.
I read the reviews.
Compared his damage on the battleship Sun Yat-sen.
I have more damage on any level 9 cruiser than on the Sun Yat-sen battleship.
I have 40% more damage on any battleship than on Sun Yat-sen.
I bought the most expensive battleship to fight on equal terms with Musashi, Georgia, Pommern, Jean Bart, Illinois.
And I was deceived...
Man.... I have bougjt shit ships hoping they would get buffed just because they looked good or were unique..... But this one??? Hell fricken no. It is beyond bad. I mean, what is the appeal to spend a hundred bucks on a ship that has a big handicap out of the box??
Maybe if it had 600mm guns. Ot 6-10 barrel turrets or something. Maybe 2.8 sigma. You just cannot polish a turd and call it a doughnut.... No
I am pretty sure wg has a shadow buff, for all the people that sail broadside to everyone and take nothing!