Wellll, if you ignore the fact that the Torchwood episode suggests that the TARDIS landed directly in the Hub and showed that the hand jar was still there when the team noticed Jack was missing...
Only issue I had with RTD era was the extra hamminess of his writing. I’m hoping the years past has helped modernize it but I also haven’t seen anything he has done post DW.
I love how Torchwood and Doctor Who drop each other's themes at key moments. Like the Doctor's theme as Jack cradled the hand, and the Torchwood theme as Jack ran to the TARDIS Bravo, Murray Also another note: Hand Doctor just throws a jacket on over a T-shirt and has a type of quick sass almost like... Nine's, tbh. And considering the line about Handy being "The Doctor when Rose first met him" she really did get both of her Doctors in one human package
i like how he said the hand was worthless to anyone but him even though if any species from dalek to sontarans would be storming earth for a single cell of that hand let along the entire thing
He changed his tune DONNA: What do you need me to do? DOCTOR: The Sontarans are inside the factory which means they've got a teleport link with the ship, but they'll have deadlocked it. I need you to reopen the link. DONNA: But I can't even mend a fuse. DOCTOR: Donna, stop talking about yourself like that. You can do this.
@@PenneySounds It makes a lot of sense actually. He was encouraging Donna, becuase it's the Doctor, he realized, that Donna is far more smarter, than she thinks of herself. But in the Crucible, that's quite different situation, Time Lord mindset is nowhere within the grasp of humanity, which eventually brought the end to Donna's companionship, as we know. The Doctor just now withnessed something, that should be impossible (aside from a seemingly destroyied Tardis to reappear, well a 2nd impossible thing that day) - a fuse of human brain with that of a Time Lord. The line about the plug was just the Doctor's disbelief more than a fact, that Donna wasn't capable of doing some stuff in the household (changing plugs and stuff).
I mean there's always a version of every doctor out there that's the show about time travel in the show Hitler is still alive and dead at the same time
In the _Doctor Who_ universe, David Tennant has played: - A rapist Nazi. - Some dude who gets killed by androids. - Some creepy singing guy. - An anti-Dalek genetically-modified secret agent. - The Doctor. - The Doctor’s half-human clone. - The Doctor again.
_"I don't know where we're going, but my old hand is very excited about it."_ Not the sort of phrase you'd use every day without getting your face slapped. 😂
That last look the Doctor give his clone is very bittersweet. He's probably thinking how lucky this version of him is for getting to finally settle down and not be eternal
@@kadindarklord Even If I knew I could regrow it, I'd still be inventing 17 new swear words in between all the blood curdling screams and fountains of blood.
I never realised until now how bittersweet the ending for 10 and Rose is, Rose gets her wish of growing old with The Doctor, while he has to live the rest of his life knowing he can never be with her.
And he gets over it got married twice died a couple times became an idiot in a bow tie then Scottish then a woman now he's back to the entertaining hair but he didn't mean to be because his clothes regenerated that's not normal so someone's f****** with him and he's probably going to find them and shove a proverbial boot up their ass
@@em_san Several wifes, he also married Elisabeth the first, the queen of England, you may say. And probably queen Nefertiti, or some other Egyptian Pharaoh. Come to think the Doctor definitely had a thing for some royalty, he fell in love with Reinette (Madam de Pompadour) as well. Oh and 11th married Marilyn Monroe, if I remember right (not a royalty, but yet another wife).
@@Croftice1you’re still right, I’d say Marilyn Monroe was one of the closest celebrities to American “royalty” especially with her relationship to JFK so it kinda tracks
That beach scene will forever kill me. I'm so glad that she got her own Doctor but so sad that she only got a version of the Doctor, so sad that the Doctor had to move on without her, and so sad that the human Doctor knew who Rose would have picked if there were options. The look on the Doctor's face when Rose was kissing the human Doctor, too many feelings and emotions!!! 😭 Everyone had to lie to themselves a little bit in order to move on and convince themselves that the people they care about are happy 😭😭😭
What’s funny is that Matt Smith, the 11th Doctor, has stated that he’d like to return to the series as an incarnation of the Master. If the BBC did that before Ncuti takes over as the 15th Doctor, it would be hilariously confuzzling!
This is why RTDs Doctor Who was my favourite. Such tight writing that even a severed hand becomes a key player. There are stakes, people can win and lose things. That doesn't happen so much with the newer ones, really looking forward to his return. The scene on the beach with Human Doctor was fantastic. He could give Rose something that the Doctor never could, and the acting was brilliant too. The stories didn't preach or hold our hands, they were complicated and subtle. The Doctor didn't tell Rose he loved her, nor did he say the human Doctor could be a better partner than him, but it was there on the screen.
This is so good something as inconsequential as the doctors hand being a big part of the masters age acceleration, 10s fake out regeneration, the doctor donna, and the ending to Rose's arch.
I feel this might be a purposeful editing choice by your part Penney, but I love how it circles back and the last shot is the doctor grabbing roses hand with his own. The same one that was chopped off
Yes, I was almost thinking of fitting in that line from "Fear Her": "There's a lot of things you need to get across this universe. Warp drive, wormhole refractors. You know the thing you need most of all? You need a hand to hold."
I love that part with the 10th copy (Meta-Crisis Ten) being in that state, just after growing from 10th's hand and Donna is talking to him. "it's you" "oh yes" "you're naked" "oh yes" Those are priceless reactions. XD
I somehow never noticed they played a version of the Doctor’s theme when Jack cradled the hand after it was broken out of its jar in “Day One” before-they were already telling us whose hand it was musically the whole time!
That Rose/Doctor scene at the end always gets me because there is so much implied tragedy to that scene mixed with hope and a lot of it is unsaid but the acting, directing and music make it visible to the viewer in such an amazing way. 1. Rose realizes this isn't exactly the man she fell in love with. He has all thr potential and memories to become him and he very likely will, but it isn't exactly him. And so she immediately runs to him and kisses him grateful to have him offer to grow old with him, its all she ever wanted BUT she also realizes the man she trully loves just left never to return. 2. The doctor watches her kiss the meta him, smiling, happy to know shell have him and hell have her but is also filled with this devastating loneliness knowing hell never be able to be with this person he trully and deeply loved. Its kind of like watching the love of your life kiss a family member or best friend you deeply care for. Watching two people you love who in an instant are total strangers and so far removed from you. 3. And though shes in thr background you can see Donnas pain in seeing her friend go through this and she wants to be there for him and knows more than others how he feels due to that meta connection but also knoes there's not much she can do Super poignant stuff
Wow i wish they incorporated this during 13th and Clara's arc, there was a moment where it was stated that the destroyer of gallifrey would be part time-lord part human. And with tenant returning to be the 14th doctor, oh the possibilities.
@@PenneySounds Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't 13 regenerate into him? Technically making him both the 10th and the 14th Doctor? In terms of regeneration I mean.
@@PenneySounds RTD confirmed he is the 14th doctor. Regarding the clothes changed he didn't want tennant to be in women's clothing because of the potential back lash he'd receive. If you read up he confirms this. Ncuti is the 15th doctor. Just sayin
"Donna you can't even change a plug" "You wana bet time boy" As a child this made me laugh, as an adult, this made me laugh. This is why i love David Tenant's time of Doctor Who, it was always Funny + Serious when it needed to be.
I wonder how the timeline/world that rose and the human doctor are living is doing? It’s been like 10ish years since they where last scene so it would be interesting to find out what’s been happening there
i wouldve loved a spinoff. if i'm not mistaken, i believe there was either a deleted scene or an added bit in one of the radio dramas, that had 10 giving meta doctor and rose a piece of blue coral that he said would grow into a new tardis. so it could be a whole show
@@HausofHoneyy f*** another child luckily Rosie will make sure the doctor don't neglect this one like he did all his other ones just casually take your grandchild and leave them on an alternate post-apocalyptic planet with some boy toy and probably never telling your child / their parent and also not making sure your clone of a daughter who is a clone of your hard to kill ass is actually I wonder how the Masters kids are doing cuz we know Missy had a daughter and I'm pretty sure one of the Masters got around when he was a mobster once which means there might be some half human brats running around
Oh I didn't realise this video was 5 days old until I noticed all the comments were from the last few days. Nice to see videos like thus still being made.
In Series 6 River Song says they need to burn the Doctor’s body because a time lord’s body is valuable. I’d like to think stuff like this is exactly the reason why. I mean just look at all the things that can happen with just a hand.
There’s never any surprises around regenerations. We always know the date, time, and new face from all the promotions, etc… Unless David Tenant is involved 😂
@@alpborakirte801 That was a fakeout, but rather than a fakeout of making us think he was going to regenerate when he doesn't, it made it seem like he'd gotten out of regenerating again, but it was still going to happen
Great vid! You could have also added the bit in The Time of the Doctor, just after Handles dies when the Dr exlpains to Clara "Well number 10 once regenerated and kept the same face, I had vanity issues at the time"
I made this partially to get the record straight that he absolutely did not regenerate with the same face, because people kept commenting on my Valeyard video that Tennant played both the 11th and 12th incarnations, but as we see in the episode, he used up a regeneration, but didn't use it on himself.
few things I noticed about this, 1. When the Master regenerated he instantly realized where he was, who he was, and what he was going to do. When the Doctor regenerates he gets temporary amnesia and takes a little for him to remember stuff. 2. Now here we are in 2022 and David Tennant will now have played 3 versions of the Doctor 10, technical 11, and now 14. (actually 11, 12, and 15 if you count the war Doctor.)
@@Gorts147 The alternative is that they've really wasted a numbered incarnation on a nostalgic throwback, which would mean the series is officially out of ideas and deserves to be cancelled.
While I grew to really like 11, initially I hated that it sort of abandoned all that 10 had done. 10 was MY doctor and when I became obsessed with the show. Really hopeful now. Assuming the world doesn't end in 2023 in nuclear annihilation, it will be a great year.
Correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't there an episode where it's mentioned that entire wars would be fought just for a chance to get hold of Time Lord DNA? Yet Jack had a whole hand just lying around half the time? XD
love how a hand from the start of the 10th severed off was a plot point for torchwood, for the series 2 finale, a ton of small remarks about it, and in the series 3 finale it grew into a doctor who destroyed the daleks and stayed with rose. just a hand
Watch this while you can. The copyright system is treating the "Journey's End" clips with a strange double standard where it wants to block the video for using clips from that episode, while all the other clips are allowed to remain visible. I've tried to trim them down, but the detection software is still seeing them as long unedited clips, no matter how many ugly edits I make. I would not be surprised if it gets taken down again.
They're even harsher with "Time Crash". They smite that on sight, even if it's edited. Most other stuff they claim but leave visible, which is totally fine, because here in Canada, in order for these videos to be fair dealing, I can't make money off them, which is why my channel isn't even monetised. So they're welcome to claim whatever they like and collect all ad revenue. But since it's fair dealing, they don't have a right to block the videos. Though all this stuff is done by computer and content creators get no say in the matter. Still, they're better than Universal Studios, who smite everything with maximum force. They gave me a strike for my Incredible Hulk video. Not even a warning. Straight to strike.
Makes me think, the David tennant doctor who was such a good doctor who that almost every companion got their own to keep. Rose got human doctor. Donna got one of the doctors that did a biregeneration. Only one that doesn't have a doctor is martha
It still bothers me that our Doctor was mad at the Human Doctor for killing the Daleks. First, it's a more to-the-point version of what the original did minus killing off the Timelords too. Second, the Daleks were litterally made to exterminate all life. It's been proven time and again that they can't be bargained with. The only real option was to wipe them out to save the universe. Again.
Hold on there. Just thought if this. How could the TARDIS work with the doctor's hand inside and the doctor outside? When they tried to do that on the Christmas special with River Song, the TARDIS would not work because the King's head was in the TARDIS and the body was outside.
@@FFKonoko The difference is Hydroflax's head and body were considered by the TARDIS to be the same person. Not a severed part, but the same living being.
Could you make a video on Jack/The Face of Boe? Specifically where he jumps on the TARDIS, causes it to crash at the End of The Universe where they find Professor Yana/The Master, and then cut to The Face of Boe telling The Doctor "You Are Not Alone"
I always thought it would be cool if Donna was the Doctors mother. If his father was exploring and followed a galifreyan energy signature to her and they fall in love. They have a child and the extra energy and intellect she absorbed is transferred into the baby. It’s a dumb theory but one I used to talk about with my friend. I don’t think it’s true I just thought it’d be fun.
I had a headcanon for a while that in his youth, Wilf may have had a fling with a mysterious woman who, unknown to him, was a Time Lady who'd used a chameleon arch.
No the doctors started existing at some point between November 22nd and November 23rd because it was night in the first ever episode and November 23rd was on a Saturday and we know it was a school night so it's probably late November 22nd early November 3rd cuz it was late as hell but back on topic the doctor started existing at that time and before that it's all conjecture because they're walking paradoxal idiot
@@PenneySounds basically the doctor started existing in the first episode and every other point before that is in flux wibbly wobbly they have five different Origins
HOLD ON. There is a head in a jar next to Capt. Jack's hand! Looks similar to the Face of Boe! (At 1:11 ) Could mean a lot of possible theories!!! Damn I never noticed this. - 1. Could the Face of Boe be a fake alias? That Jack isn't the face of Boe but rather has close connections to them? - 2. Could the head here be from the future? Like an earlier version of the Face of Boe that Jack asks for information on how events transpire? Since The Face of Boe had already lived through it? Maybe the rift allows the paradox to happen? I am unsure if the head here could be something from the extended lore or old Who so I apologise for posting this if that is the case.
@@PenneySounds I had noticed, on first viewing I assumed that was a reference to another show/ film. It could be within their universe, we had seen in season one episode one that as the ninth Doctor read the magazine at Rose's home he said "Oh that won't last, she's human and he's an alien." So they have breached a lot of sectors within their world society wise and are just, mingling and exploring human life. Could be a thing we see here. Somehow the alien got cast for the show with the people that made the show thinking it was some 'fancy mask' like we saw in episode one of Torchwood with Gwen's first alien.
Isn't it kinda funny that we kinda have the scharack to thank in part for saving the universe, cause if he hadn't chopped the doctors hand, we would've been doomed
@@PenneySounds hmmm 🤔. It’s a possibility. Although I do remember seeing it in it every time. I actually just finished watching all the seasons again 2 months ago
I just skimmed the episodes, and it never gets a close shot that I could find where you can see what's in it, except the New Year 2000 flashback in "Fragments" where there appears to be something like a brain in it.
I just realised the container that Jack put the hand in is similar to the one we see the Face of Boe in, Prop Design coincidence or Intentional character connection?
Regeneration is from the Timeless Child's DNA and was infused into the Time Lords by Tecteun, and into River Song by Madame Kovarian. Tecteun placed the limit of 12 on it artificially.
The hand scene at the beginning with Jack, was just terrible. Barrowman as awesome as you are you aren't the best actor but my god you are a charming Scot.
Can you imagine what adventures he would have with rose as part human? No TARDIS No Sonic Matt Smith doctor nearly went insane living a normal life waiting for the cubes to do something for an hour. (Cant remember but billions of cubes around the world) Or would it be like Torchwood? Earth adventures.
You could continue this video with the 60th release and the fact donna had a daughter to redurect the energy from the meta-crisis. But with what they have now it’s perfect
RTD built a whole Doctor who world with consistency, stakes, consequences and continuity
Wellll, if you ignore the fact that the Torchwood episode suggests that the TARDIS landed directly in the Hub and showed that the hand jar was still there when the team noticed Jack was missing...
Only issue I had with RTD era was the extra hamminess of his writing. I’m hoping the years past has helped modernize it but I also haven’t seen anything he has done post DW.
@@PenneySounds I'm not saying it's flawless but its better than any other writer bothered when they were in charge of Doctor who
@@SahiPie i love the hamminess it fits doctor who to a tee
My videos show that all the new series writers have kept continuity spectacularly
I love how Torchwood and Doctor Who drop each other's themes at key moments. Like the Doctor's theme as Jack cradled the hand, and the Torchwood theme as Jack ran to the TARDIS
Bravo, Murray
Also another note: Hand Doctor just throws a jacket on over a T-shirt and has a type of quick sass almost like... Nine's, tbh. And considering the line about Handy being "The Doctor when Rose first met him" she really did get both of her Doctors in one human package
Hopefully she was at least a little into Donna too
I MISS MURRAY 😭
@@beanholder3634 Because the hand doctor has a bit of Donna in him, at least that's what I remember 🤷🏻
@@PenneySounds LOL
@@habitsrabbit "Oi!"
i like how he said the hand was worthless to anyone but him even though if any species from dalek to sontarans would be storming earth for a single cell of that hand let along the entire thing
In fairness, it’s definitely worthless to other humans which would be the relevant frame of reference.
@@casey6556 i know of a few humans that would die to have real alien DNA...
that's why river burned doctor's body when he died at the utah lake
@@casey6556spoilers:
except that there was an alien in her body but
of course that's what you have to say so they'd let go of the hand...
Somebodys read Alien Bodies haven't they?
Any other writer: you can't write two different shows around a single hand!
Doctor who and torchwood writers: hold our hand...
You've got to hand it to them.
That literally went hand-in-hand!
"Donna, you can't even change a plug." That was just... such a good line 🤣
He changed his tune
DONNA: What do you need me to do?
DOCTOR: The Sontarans are inside the factory which means they've got a teleport link with the ship, but they'll have deadlocked it. I need you to reopen the link.
DONNA: But I can't even mend a fuse.
DOCTOR: Donna, stop talking about yourself like that. You can do this.
@@PenneySounds omg I forgot 😭 🤣 makes it so much funnier.
🤣🤣
@@PenneySounds It makes a lot of sense actually.
He was encouraging Donna, becuase it's the Doctor, he realized, that Donna is far more smarter, than she thinks of herself. But in the Crucible, that's quite different situation, Time Lord mindset is nowhere within the grasp of humanity, which eventually brought the end to Donna's companionship, as we know. The Doctor just now withnessed something, that should be impossible (aside from a seemingly destroyied Tardis to reappear, well a 2nd impossible thing that day) - a fuse of human brain with that of a Time Lord. The line about the plug was just the Doctor's disbelief more than a fact, that Donna wasn't capable of doing some stuff in the household (changing plugs and stuff).
And now for the next bit of continuity involving 10's body parts: The Doctor's teeth.
That's weird
@@PenneySounds you'd be surprised.
@@eleanormellor7905 "New teeth, *that's weird* "
@@ZonalJump97 “i know these teeth”
@@13galaxy *what?*
i've always loved the idea that no matter what there will always be a david tennant doctor out there in the world of doctor who
I mean there's always a version of every doctor out there that's the show about time travel in the show Hitler is still alive and dead at the same time
@@plantainsame2049 ah yes schrödinger’s nazi
@@plantainsame2049 sure, but by the looks of it the Doctor keeps regenerating into David Tennant for some reason 😂
@peterstangl8295 Now, I'm imagining a special featuring the 10th, 14th and the metacrisis doctor.
In the _Doctor Who_ universe, David Tennant has played:
- A rapist Nazi.
- Some dude who gets killed by androids.
- Some creepy singing guy.
- An anti-Dalek genetically-modified secret agent.
- The Doctor.
- The Doctor’s half-human clone.
- The Doctor again.
_"I don't know where we're going, but my old hand is very excited about it."_
Not the sort of phrase you'd use every day without getting your face slapped. 😂
That last look the Doctor give his clone is very bittersweet. He's probably thinking how lucky this version of him is for getting to finally settle down and not be eternal
"You cut my hand off."
He says with the energy of finding out a co-worker ate the last of the Krispy Kreme's.
"You cut my hand off..........rude."
Probably because he knew he could regrow it.
@@kadindarklord Even If I knew I could regrow it, I'd still be inventing 17 new swear words in between all the blood curdling screams and fountains of blood.
to be fair that is extremely fitting for a british person
@@brainfood8971 well he's not the 12th doctor yet he has yet to unlock that power up
@@KenshiImmortalWolf technically it's an alien who is sounds like a Scottish person pretending to be a British person
“Put that down, that’s worthless to everyone but me” -Me when someone touches my scraps in my garage
I never realised until now how bittersweet the ending for 10 and Rose is, Rose gets her wish of growing old with The Doctor, while he has to live the rest of his life knowing he can never be with her.
And he gets over it got married twice died a couple times became an idiot in a bow tie then Scottish then a woman now he's back to the entertaining hair but he didn't mean to be because his clothes regenerated that's not normal so someone's f****** with him and he's probably going to find them and shove a proverbial boot up their ass
yeah but he gets a wife so its all good
@@em_san Several wifes, he also married Elisabeth the first, the queen of England, you may say. And probably queen Nefertiti, or some other Egyptian Pharaoh. Come to think the Doctor definitely had a thing for some royalty, he fell in love with Reinette (Madam de Pompadour) as well. Oh and 11th married Marilyn Monroe, if I remember right (not a royalty, but yet another wife).
@@Croftice1you’re still right, I’d say Marilyn Monroe was one of the closest celebrities to American “royalty” especially with her relationship to JFK so it kinda tracks
I never watched Torchwood, but I love how they used the 10th Doctor's theme when Jack was cradling his hand after the jar broke.
They do a similar thing with Martha's theme in season 2
That beach scene will forever kill me. I'm so glad that she got her own Doctor but so sad that she only got a version of the Doctor, so sad that the Doctor had to move on without her, and so sad that the human Doctor knew who Rose would have picked if there were options. The look on the Doctor's face when Rose was kissing the human Doctor, too many feelings and emotions!!! 😭 Everyone had to lie to themselves a little bit in order to move on and convince themselves that the people they care about are happy 😭😭😭
Indeed.
The absolute worst part is the look on the real doctors face when the human one told rose what he told her on that day
@@bald_lightning oh 100% It's absolutely heartbreaking!!!
Just remember Rose didn’t just get a human version of The Doctor, she got a male version of The DoctorDonna.
I hate how the show screwed me over like that😭💔🙏
You’ve heard of Checkov’s Gun, get ready for The Doctor’s Hand.
It just occured to me that the Master could have potentially regenerated into David Tennant
Thats what i thought would happen the whole time leading upto the special, would be wild to have tennant as the master
Honestly that would have made more sense rather than The Master just taking over The Doctor's body
Didn’t think of it then
What’s funny is that Matt Smith, the 11th Doctor, has stated that he’d like to return to the series as an incarnation of the Master. If the BBC did that before Ncuti takes over as the 15th Doctor, it would be hilariously confuzzling!
@@cardinalhamneggs5253Most of the previous Doctors have said they wanted to play the Master. Matt Smith wasn't the first.
This is why RTDs Doctor Who was my favourite. Such tight writing that even a severed hand becomes a key player. There are stakes, people can win and lose things. That doesn't happen so much with the newer ones, really looking forward to his return.
The scene on the beach with Human Doctor was fantastic. He could give Rose something that the Doctor never could, and the acting was brilliant too. The stories didn't preach or hold our hands, they were complicated and subtle. The Doctor didn't tell Rose he loved her, nor did he say the human Doctor could be a better partner than him, but it was there on the screen.
@Rerelic?
@Rerelic no it didnt
Remember when everyone was convinced that it was 10.2 and Rose in the 50th when Tennant and Billie were cast? A simpler time…
Remember when everyone thought 10 was coming back for the 60th anniversary but instead we got 14
@@justagamersquad2907 bro we got him back as doctor!
Lol.
@@matthewgerlach5775 for 3 episodes but hey it's more than we expected of tennant
I was one of them lol I'm still hoping that they bring them back for a bit. Would love to see it
This is so good something as inconsequential as the doctors hand being a big part of the masters age acceleration, 10s fake out regeneration, the doctor donna, and the ending to Rose's arch.
I just nuked my own brain with two simple thoughts:
"Half human, half time lord"
"I'm half human, on my mother's side"
Donna is his "mother"
...Like a hybrid...
"I'm a complicated event in time and space, must of rippled back."
Deepest lore.
@@PenneySounds I never liked whole Clara and Capaldi being the hybrid together idea anyway. DoctorDonna or human Doctor is way more logical.
I feel this might be a purposeful editing choice by your part Penney, but I love how it circles back and the last shot is the doctor grabbing roses hand with his own. The same one that was chopped off
Yes, I was almost thinking of fitting in that line from "Fear Her":
"There's a lot of things you need to get across this universe. Warp drive, wormhole refractors. You know the thing you need most of all? You need a hand to hold."
@@PenneySounds Also, the first thing we saw 9 do was take Rose's hand in that hand.
@@amyheartsyou And 10 calls back to that in the minisode right after he regenerates.
I love that part with the 10th copy (Meta-Crisis Ten) being in that state, just after growing from 10th's hand and Donna is talking to him.
"it's you"
"oh yes"
"you're naked"
"oh yes"
Those are priceless reactions. XD
I somehow never noticed they played a version of the Doctor’s theme when Jack cradled the hand after it was broken out of its jar in “Day One” before-they were already telling us whose hand it was musically the whole time!
They ended Rose's story in simultaneously the saddest and happiest way
That Rose/Doctor scene at the end always gets me because there is so much implied tragedy to that scene mixed with hope and a lot of it is unsaid but the acting, directing and music make it visible to the viewer in such an amazing way.
1. Rose realizes this isn't exactly the man she fell in love with. He has all thr potential and memories to become him and he very likely will, but it isn't exactly him. And so she immediately runs to him and kisses him grateful to have him offer to grow old with him, its all she ever wanted BUT she also realizes the man she trully loves just left never to return.
2. The doctor watches her kiss the meta him, smiling, happy to know shell have him and hell have her but is also filled with this devastating loneliness knowing hell never be able to be with this person he trully and deeply loved. Its kind of like watching the love of your life kiss a family member or best friend you deeply care for. Watching two people you love who in an instant are total strangers and so far removed from you.
3. And though shes in thr background you can see Donnas pain in seeing her friend go through this and she wants to be there for him and knows more than others how he feels due to that meta connection but also knoes there's not much she can do
Super poignant stuff
I always loved the doc seeing Jack running to the TARDIS pleading to stop and the doc just like yah nope not dealing with that today an trues to leave
Wow i wish they incorporated this during 13th and Clara's arc, there was a moment where it was stated that the destroyer of gallifrey would be part time-lord part human. And with tenant returning to be the 14th doctor, oh the possibilities.
I hope everybody understands that he's not actually the 14th Doctor
@@PenneySounds Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't 13 regenerate into him? Technically making him both the 10th and the 14th Doctor?
In terms of regeneration I mean.
@@DeathofSnoopy Pretty obviously wasn't a real regeneration. Clothes don't regenerate.
@@PenneySounds Fair enough. But still, Tennant’s back. 😁
@@PenneySounds RTD confirmed he is the 14th doctor. Regarding the clothes changed he didn't want tennant to be in women's clothing because of the potential back lash he'd receive. If you read up he confirms this. Ncuti is the 15th doctor.
Just sayin
"Donna you can't even change a plug"
"You wana bet time boy"
As a child this made me laugh, as an adult, this made me laugh.
This is why i love David Tenant's time of Doctor Who, it was always Funny + Serious when it needed to be.
14:45
Just noticed David is speaking with his natural Scottish accent here.
I don't hear it
I wonder how the timeline/world that rose and the human doctor are living is doing? It’s been like 10ish years since they where last scene so it would be interesting to find out what’s been happening there
i wouldve loved a spinoff. if i'm not mistaken, i believe there was either a deleted scene or an added bit in one of the radio dramas, that had 10 giving meta doctor and rose a piece of blue coral that he said would grow into a new tardis. so it could be a whole show
There was a comic! They have a daughter now :)
In the empire of the wolf comics they have a daughter named Mia :)
@@necro926 is that not just Doctor Who but without regeneration
@@HausofHoneyy f*** another child luckily Rosie will make sure the doctor don't neglect this one like he did all his other ones just casually take your grandchild and leave them on an alternate post-apocalyptic planet with some boy toy and probably never telling your child / their parent and also not making sure your clone of a daughter who is a clone of your hard to kill ass is actually
I wonder how the Masters kids are doing cuz we know Missy had a daughter and I'm pretty sure one of the Masters got around when he was a mobster once which means there might be some half human brats running around
Oh I didn't realise this video was 5 days old until I noticed all the comments were from the last few days.
Nice to see videos like thus still being made.
These vids bring me so much joy
In Series 6 River Song says they need to burn the Doctor’s body because a time lord’s body is valuable. I’d like to think stuff like this is exactly the reason why. I mean just look at all the things that can happen with just a hand.
Don't forget, she knew that was actually the Teselecta, not the Doctor's body
@@PenneySounds True, I often forget because I dislike that finale lol
There’s never any surprises around regenerations. We always know the date, time, and new face from all the promotions, etc…
Unless David Tenant is involved 😂
Capaldi did a fakeout one too
@@PenneySounds Matt also regenarated back to his young self, just to regenarated again to Capaldi. But for a second Clara thought he is back.
@@alpborakirte801 That was a fakeout, but rather than a fakeout of making us think he was going to regenerate when he doesn't, it made it seem like he'd gotten out of regenerating again, but it was still going to happen
This was so brilliant! Thank you for putting this together!
Great vid! You could have also added the bit in The Time of the Doctor, just after Handles dies when the Dr exlpains to Clara "Well number 10 once regenerated and kept the same face, I had vanity issues at the time"
I made this partially to get the record straight that he absolutely did not regenerate with the same face, because people kept commenting on my Valeyard video that Tennant played both the 11th and 12th incarnations, but as we see in the episode, he used up a regeneration, but didn't use it on himself.
few things I noticed about this, 1. When the Master regenerated he instantly realized where he was, who he was, and what he was going to do. When the Doctor regenerates he gets temporary amnesia and takes a little for him to remember stuff. 2. Now here we are in 2022 and David Tennant will now have played 3 versions of the Doctor 10, technical 11, and now 14. (actually 11, 12, and 15 if you count the war Doctor.)
I don't buy for a second the idea that he's the 14th Doctor
@@PenneySounds I misread your reply at first, but it's been confirmed he is the 14th doctor
@@ZUnknownFox Ncuti Gatwa is the 14th Doctor. This David Tennant thing will be revealed as an illusion.
@@PenneySounds it's really not. RTD even confirmed it himself 😂😂 but yeah. You just keep believing something that won't happen lol
@@Gorts147 The alternative is that they've really wasted a numbered incarnation on a nostalgic throwback, which would mean the series is officially out of ideas and deserves to be cancelled.
I love how he was just like "And i grew another hand, Hello" as he waved his hand lmao i died of laughter
While I grew to really like 11, initially I hated that it sort of abandoned all that 10 had done. 10 was MY doctor and when I became obsessed with the show. Really hopeful now. Assuming the world doesn't end in 2023 in nuclear annihilation, it will be a great year.
Correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't there an episode where it's mentioned that entire wars would be fought just for a chance to get hold of Time Lord DNA? Yet Jack had a whole hand just lying around half the time? XD
Hoarding alien stuff is what Torchwood does
Well it’s a handy hand! Anyway, it’s been used as a weapon multiple times lmao!
Yes, River says that in The Impossible Astronaut
Well ya know, entire wars could be fought for Jack's immortal DNA too probably xp
If I had to guess, I'd say people probably didn't know who's hand it was
15:34 This connects well with 12's arc in season 9.
"witchcraft" says the space alien who used blood to hypnotize a bunch of people
Thinking about it - Jack is technically responsible for the Metacrisis Doctor because of him recovering and returning the hand - huh
Makes up for the genocide, aged Doctor and general misery the Master caused thanks to it
Not to mention "the doctor-donna" from Fires of Pompei
love how a hand from the start of the 10th severed off was a plot point for torchwood, for the series 2 finale, a ton of small remarks about it, and in the series 3 finale it grew into a doctor who destroyed the daleks and stayed with rose. just a hand
9:07 Rose sounded so disappointed, I think it's because she knows she got to sleep with next doctor in a different universe.
Doctor: *grows hand back.*
Sycorax: "Witchcraft!"
Zoe: "... We live in a spaceship dear."
Shiny
That's was great editing it's Russell t Davis really understood doctor who
Watch this while you can. The copyright system is treating the "Journey's End" clips with a strange double standard where it wants to block the video for using clips from that episode, while all the other clips are allowed to remain visible. I've tried to trim them down, but the detection software is still seeing them as long unedited clips, no matter how many ugly edits I make. I would not be surprised if it gets taken down again.
Every channel I’ve seen that posts scenes from dr who also have problems with this ep. I wonder why bbc don’t like half of it on yt
They're even harsher with "Time Crash". They smite that on sight, even if it's edited. Most other stuff they claim but leave visible, which is totally fine, because here in Canada, in order for these videos to be fair dealing, I can't make money off them, which is why my channel isn't even monetised. So they're welcome to claim whatever they like and collect all ad revenue. But since it's fair dealing, they don't have a right to block the videos. Though all this stuff is done by computer and content creators get no say in the matter.
Still, they're better than Universal Studios, who smite everything with maximum force. They gave me a strike for my Incredible Hulk video. Not even a warning. Straight to strike.
It's like the bit in Carry On Screaming where they grow an extra monster out of his finger.
"This hand... IS A FIGHTIN' HAND!"
YOUR TELLING ME HIS HAND GETS A HAPPY FUCKING ENDING!? HIS HAND GETS LOVE?!
I just realized that thanks to the 14th Doctor there are now two David Tennants running around the Doctor Who universe now. XD
Donna; * sounding smart *
doctor: donna you can't even change a plug!
sometimes I forget how weird the lighting in syndicated TV in the 2000s
Makes me think, the David tennant doctor who was such a good doctor who that almost every companion got their own to keep. Rose got human doctor. Donna got one of the doctors that did a biregeneration. Only one that doesn't have a doctor is martha
RTD, the king of over-the-top deus ex machina endings. But we love him for it anyway.
It still bothers me that our Doctor was mad at the Human Doctor for killing the Daleks.
First, it's a more to-the-point version of what the original did minus killing off the Timelords too.
Second, the Daleks were litterally made to exterminate all life. It's been proven time and again that they can't be bargained with. The only real option was to wipe them out to save the universe. Again.
Hold on there. Just thought if this. How could the TARDIS work with the doctor's hand inside and the doctor outside? When they tried to do that on the Christmas special with River Song, the TARDIS would not work because the King's head was in the TARDIS and the body was outside.
Plot hole introduced by the King thing.
Honestly, where do you draw the line? Skin particles? Any amputee?
Was the hand somehow considered "dead"?
@@FFKonoko The difference is Hydroflax's head and body were considered by the TARDIS to be the same person. Not a severed part, but the same living being.
River SONG: Two of you, the mind races
When the Dr Who spin-off's musical score continuity is on point! Did I put the apostrophe in the right place?
Could you make a video on Jack/The Face of Boe? Specifically where he jumps on the TARDIS, causes it to crash at the End of The Universe where they find Professor Yana/The Master, and then cut to The Face of Boe telling The Doctor "You Are Not Alone"
8:08 I remember watching this one, the episode ends right after he starts regenerating
I always thought it would be cool if Donna was the Doctors mother.
If his father was exploring and followed a galifreyan energy signature to her and they fall in love. They have a child and the extra energy and intellect she absorbed is transferred into the baby.
It’s a dumb theory but one I used to talk about with my friend. I don’t think it’s true I just thought it’d be fun.
I had a headcanon for a while that in his youth, Wilf may have had a fling with a mysterious woman who, unknown to him, was a Time Lady who'd used a chameleon arch.
No the doctors started existing at some point between November 22nd and November 23rd because it was night in the first ever episode and November 23rd was on a Saturday and we know it was a school night so it's probably late November 22nd early November 3rd cuz it was late as hell but back on topic the doctor started existing at that time and before that it's all conjecture because they're walking paradoxal idiot
@@plantainsame2049 Huh?
@@PenneySounds basically the doctor started existing in the first episode and every other point before that is in flux wibbly wobbly they have five different Origins
fan fiction!
"I didn't want to change. Why would I? Look at me."
And that from the Doctor who complained that he wasn't ginger.
You cut my hand, I can't believe you've cut my hand,how could you have cut my hand
I can't believe you've done this.
Makes me wonder why 11, 12 and 13 didn't lop off a hand so they could also regenerate without changing.
Who would've known that his hand would become his clone brother.
You could say that's second-hand
I've got to hand it to you, that's funny.
I shutter to think of what Jack did with the Doctors Hand!
HOLD ON. There is a head in a jar next to Capt. Jack's hand! Looks similar to the Face of Boe! (At 1:11 )
Could mean a lot of possible theories!!! Damn I never noticed this.
- 1. Could the Face of Boe be a fake alias? That Jack isn't the face of Boe but rather has close connections to them?
- 2. Could the head here be from the future? Like an earlier version of the Face of Boe that Jack asks for information on how events transpire? Since The Face of Boe had already lived through it? Maybe the rift allows the paradox to happen?
I am unsure if the head here could be something from the extended lore or old Who so I apologise for posting this if that is the case.
Eugene refers to the other jar as "The head of Vexor 11". No idea what that is or why Eugene knows about it.
@@PenneySounds I had noticed, on first viewing I assumed that was a reference to another show/ film. It could be within their universe, we had seen in season one episode one that as the ninth Doctor read the magazine at Rose's home he said "Oh that won't last, she's human and he's an alien." So they have breached a lot of sectors within their world society wise and are just, mingling and exploring human life.
Could be a thing we see here. Somehow the alien got cast for the show with the people that made the show thinking it was some 'fancy mask' like we saw in episode one of Torchwood with Gwen's first alien.
Say what you will about Flux, but I'm just hella happy that the next special is going to finally give Donna her criminally late proper closure.
Don't be too surprised if it doesn't
The doctor did mate with Donna at the end
It's only fitting the hand got a happy ending.
If Chekhov truly had a gun, this is the hand he pulled the trigger with.
At 16:03 someone is still cutting onions.... after all those years....
i hope we'll see the "Donna" Doctor again/hear about him in the tv show.
Yes, there are three Doctors at the same time.
One of my favourite Doctors!
I wonder how many would watch Torchwood without watching Doctor Who first and wonder what the big deal about the hand was
Isn't it kinda funny that we kinda have the scharack to thank in part for saving the universe, cause if he hadn't chopped the doctors hand, we would've been doomed
Sycorax
Remember that he won a swordfight with a tangerine.
Saving the earth from a invasion and saving christmas while doing so.
The hand wrist got long then short again
I forgot how much that hand cropped up
Hope they have torchwood come back. It be awesome get the new American crew back with jack
imo, the first season of Torchwood is necessary viewing whenever you're doing a doctor who marathon. watch it before you watch Utopia.
If you look in the description of my minisode playlist, I've got a watch order list with every episode, minisode, and spinoff of new Who
Best doctor who for sure
Now I want Handy, 10 & 14 to meet...
I'd almost forgotten how bad a lot of the adr was in Torchwood lol.
It's pretty grating, isn't it? The beach scene too
and Jack still has he’s hand. I saw it on Torchwood
The jar is still there in season 2, but I don't think there's a hand in it
@@PenneySounds hmmm 🤔. It’s a possibility. Although I do remember seeing it in it every time. I actually just finished watching all the seasons again 2 months ago
I just skimmed the episodes, and it never gets a close shot that I could find where you can see what's in it, except the New Year 2000 flashback in "Fragments" where there appears to be something like a brain in it.
Donna was too OP they had to find a way to ditch her.
I just realised the container that Jack put the hand in is similar to the one we see the Face of Boe in, Prop Design coincidence or Intentional character connection?
I wonder is younger Rose is going to be in the new season.
if metacrisis 10 didn't get the regeneration part of his timelord dna in the metacrisis... does that mean Donna did?
...ohhhhh i need to start writing
So uh... have you seen the 60th? Cuz I wanna know your thoughts on the Star Beast now :)
Regeneration is from the Timeless Child's DNA and was infused into the Time Lords by Tecteun, and into River Song by Madame Kovarian. Tecteun placed the limit of 12 on it artificially.
@@RoseTheVideomancer haven't watched it but I got spoilered the general plot, it looks real neat but I still think my idea was awesome (lol 💀)
@@PenneySounds yeah I know thank u ^-^
Get found out inside that minute what type of man he was and it wast lucky it Vengeful.
Honestly always feel bad for Micky.
That isn't continuity being on point, that's just telling a story, it seems like that was always the plan from the beginning
The show was not planned out that far in advance
Idk if it's been said yet... Sorry if it has. Seasons and episode numbers would be amazing 🤩
The hand scene at the beginning with Jack, was just terrible. Barrowman as awesome as you are you aren't the best actor but my god you are a charming Scot.
Can you imagine what adventures he would have with rose as part human?
No TARDIS
No Sonic
Matt Smith doctor nearly went insane living a normal life waiting for the cubes to do something for an hour. (Cant remember but billions of cubes around the world)
Or would it be like Torchwood?
Earth adventures.
You could continue this video with the 60th release and the fact donna had a daughter to redurect the energy from the meta-crisis. But with what they have now it’s perfect