Great video,good to see you back & keeping the channel going , thoughts our with you since the loss of Christian but I’m sure he’s proud of you continuing on & watching over you all . Lee up the good work 👌
I just rode the new Beamer 1250gs and Pan am. Walked out today with a brand new Harley Pan am special. Blue and white! Personally the big difference between Harley and bmw is the Harley feels way faster way more powerful! Just wait till and exhaust and power commander on the Pan Am! Everyone should go test ride a new Pan Am! It will change your thinking
my condolences to you on your coworker and more importantly good friend Christian. I was unaware until just a few days ago as to what had happened. It is a big shame the world will miss him as I’m sure you do. The two of you have a great camaraderie together on your rides. I will miss him so, but I will most definitely continue to watch your channel both very informative and entertaining. Best of luck be safe.
Regarding the seat on the BMW: the optional high rally seat offers 900mm seat height and very swift sitting to standing position transition and allows to ride the bike much more comfortably while seated off-road.
I recently came out of bike retirement and was going to purchase the BMW however I decided to buy the Harley. It was the best descion! So far when riding around I have seen 100s of BMWs but NO other Pan Americas... Yes the BMW might be the best but I prefer to stand outside of the crowd (. Ps. I don't go rallying so it's more of a touring thing)
I'll give Harley an A for effort cuz as a first attempt they did pretty good. I'm a long way from considering it, especially over a GS or the Super Adventure R but I welcome the market competition!
It is so much fun, I would definitely recommend checking one out. Downside, you have to spend another 3k to change out rims, tires to make it a true off-road bike.
@@sheepdog819 I definitely will when I get the chance. Just don’t think it’ll make we wanna give up my 1090r but I’ve got an open mind. I bet it would make a nice addition to the stable tho 🤙
Hey guys, you’re missing the fact that you can drastically change the suspension settings. It significantly changes the rebound and dampening. Your review is the first I’ve watched that have kudos to the BMW suspension. Most other reviews described it as mite, numb, non-communicative. The Showa electronic suspension is far superior.
Nice video. Regarding the Pan America I believe you hold the mode button to completely cancel ABS and not Traction Control .. to cancel Traction Control you simply press the TC button on your right side. Also the tourpack that comes with the Pan America has its own base so it will be able to hold decent weight
I've owned both brands over the past 30+yrs. There are pros and cons to each but when it comes to ADV market the Germans have had half a century head start. I wish well for HD
On Harley Davidson web site it states 10kg which is 22pounds max weight on the rack, this is the second video where they state 2.5kg which is only 5.5 pounds, there must be some confusion here.
@@GruveToob They’d have got crucified right at the presentation of the bike if they showed up with a bike supposed to be able to handle sand and mud with a belt drive...
I think one thing everyone would Have to say is Harley did an incredible job for their 1st attempt at something totally outside their comfort zone...much closer to the top than I imagine anyone would have thought
Hopefully this is the first offering in a list of offerings from Harley Davidson in the ADV style. I’m sure they’ll keep refining the PA to make it as competitive as possible in this segment of motorcycles (I think?) We know this new engine is the future of Harley Davidson moving forward. At least I think it is.
2nd best looking ADV bike out there for me.. i love how post apocalyptic it looks, some mad max shit, not including a quick shifter and drive shaft if it wants to compete with the 1250gs is a huge miss, esp for that price
The Harley is a 60 degree V-Twin, NOT 45 degree. The Revolution Max engine is destined for all Harley Davidson bikes over the next 2 years. The next gen Pan America will have a quick shifter. The first Gen was just get the bike into the real world.
@@frodelien3569 Nice!! I cancelled my Pan Am order and am trading in my 2020 Triumph Tiger 1200 for the new 2022 model. I will get the Pan Am during the summer.
I was not sure about your introduction on the suspension systems on both bikes. The Pan America Special has self leveling suspension as standard, whilst the BMW normally gets a system that you have to tune by electronically selecting the load factor, unless you pay the extra money for the fully self adjusting option. BMW has been making the GS for so long that they have got both the quality and the ride almost perfect, but the Harley offers a good alternative.
The Pan America is the number one selling adventure motorcycle in the US. I have test rode it several times. I have researched it thoroughly. I placed an order on one. I like the looks of an African Twin and some features. The BMW GS is just a huge motorcycle for me. Not even going to bother looking at other brands as dealerships, parts, finding mechanics who can work on them are few and far between here in the US. If I was going around the world it would be on an African Twin.
Love the fit and finish of BMW. These bikes have spent years refining and figuring things out. Is it perfect? Nothing ever is. But it’s perfect enough for those who love them. Next up will be the new Triumph Tiger 1200 just out. The HD Pan America is a great first attempt but needs some feedback and refining and then commitment by the Motor company to be in it 100%. Good job guys.
@@twowheelboomer no? What is it them? It have benn selling well because is the only one available, the bike is for a first attempt really good, and is also different, but is not because is better than the others, is miles away from being the best.
Not a good comparison at all. I had the opposite opinion. I stayed off the breaks using Harley wire wheels and proper tires used for mixed terrain. I have road both in Florida sand and Alabama rocks roads. The suspension on the GS bounced me around like a rat in a cage. Front to heavy wanted to low side all the time. Harley was poised and balanced and had a linear power band.
I don’t own either but I found this a very good watch. I used to own a gs. I actually quite like the look of the Harley. Only Harley that has interested me. Quite amusing you said it feels like no Harley you have ridden. It feels alive.
Hi and long time no see...What happened to previous series and where is you mate? It was always pleasure to watch your videos. He was sensible, you were fast! Regarding HD, I've almost bought it, but chosen SAS 1290 in the last moment occurred to be right decision. Almost 5000 miles done already and bike suits me much better then PanAm. Personally I think that from spring 2022, new fantastic Tiger 1200, especially Rally Pro would still all sales from HD here in UK and reduce Beemer sales a lot. Great bike! I'm to young for GS anyway ;) and HD is not there yet, maybe next model will prove better. Thanks for video!
The other was in a accident & has passed away,I’m sure everyone had great memories of their videos.Good to see him back & continuing the channel,I’m sure he’s watching over it .Keep up the good work.
@@colinclugston4757 I do apologise for silly questions not doing my homework at all... Life's a bitch! Good lad, great program, so much fun. Hope he's got even better life up there...RIP Bro +
From my experience, BMW always provides reviewers with a top spec bike, it's always optioned up (no base models are given to reviewers). The Pan America you have is the base model, it is not the top spec bike and Harley does have has a quick shift option available in 2022. The plastic rack on the Pan is not intended to put a top box on it, there is appropriate hardware which is fitted to mounting points under the passenger seat for mounting top boxes or carry racks. I am in no way saying that overall the Pan is better than the BMW, it's not, but please, here you are not comparing apples with apples. The Pan is biased for on-road riding (similar to the Duke Multistrada) , so hard-core off-roaders will not favour the Pan. But if one spends most time on road, then it's a no brainer which one is easier to live with.
Exactly. So much missed in this review unfortunately. They should have spent a bit more time researching the bike before filing the video. I have not rode either yet, but will next spring, but was frustrated on the things that they missed.
The last Harley I had was a Buell X1 Lightning and like all Harleys the engine started leaking oil at about 4,500 miles... why would this one be any different. Harley is like a caveman to BMW's modern man.
Informative vid but I'm still wondering why his buddy was even invited. Guy behind the H-D wouldn't shut up for almost 18 min!! LOL! Maybe let your bro talk about motorcycles a little.
If Harley want to have a chance in this sector they need to pay more attention to styling. The Harley is one of the pig (or more accurately 'hippo') ugliest bikes on the market. Whatever people may say - style matters. Just ask Ducati how well the original Multistrada did?
You can not compare that Harley to a BMW GS, because it's never build to be in that off-road competition. And because two Germans riders doing the test, the outcome is alway's that the German bike will win, even from KTM, Honda or any other brand !
Don't dog Harley till you hit the rough stuff and leave the pavement to save your skin from a car pulling out on you. You survive. The GS will highline low side and leave you in a ditch. And in the real world thats why you buy either of these machines. BMW has a lighter more capable bike that will accomplish this goal. Leave the pig on the showroom floor.
I bought a Pan Am Special on May 28, 2021. I forced the dealership to trade it in on October 20th 2021. It didn’t even last 5 months until the dealership was concerned about federal lemon law kicking in. They were on their 3rd attempt trying to fix the electrical issue that would cause the bike to stall (usually in an intersection) and then go into limp mode. You would have to completely wait for the bike to power down and reboot before it would barely start again. In the time I owned the bike it threw. 16 different codes. The dealership, nor the MoCo knew how to fix this problem. They were more than happy to give me a deal on the trade-in for a Heritage that I really didn’t want either. This bike is absolute garbage.
Spot on. All kinds of problems. In canada i bought a gs1250 loaded for 2k more then the harley. There not even close in my opinion. What about resale. No excuse to have that many problems. Even for a first year bike. Harley spent 3 years developing this bike.
Another European Push for BMW. BMW is not cool. Its a PIG on wheels. I would not buy either of these bikes. KTM is unreliable. Suzuki bid is a soft street bike. Yamaha Super T need a real update. That only leaves the King. Africa Twin is the King and any one that rides ADV knows it. This channel is a joke.
Honestly I find the the BMW rides better and it feels lighter than the Africa Twin, which carries the weight very high (especially the Adventure Sports). But I don't really like either of them and think both are too big. But that's just my opinion. Some people prefer KTMs and some prefer Kawasaki. Others will prefer Ducati or Suzuki or Yamaha or Triumph. It's good to have the choice for different budgets, priorities and taste, as well as channels like this where you get to see the bikes and hear their impressions.
They are comparing the 2 bikes ,the emphasis on the Harley and using the BMW as the yardstick. They are not trying to compare them with the rest of the ADV bikes. They also gave their unbiased opinions and the reasons behind their findings. It would be very unhelpful if they just described the bikes PIGS on wheels or the King or AT The bike for fairies who cannot use a clutch and change gear. That would make it a joke.
@@terryrance2662 Absolutely. Personally I find anyone who claims the AT is "the king" to not be serious either... AT's also have plenty of their own issues and I find it as much if not more of a "pig" than the GS, to be honest.
That was just the plastic back piece. That is not the top case bracket. Unfortunately these guys misstated quite a few details, and were reviewing the base model bike.
I bought a PanAm Special today... Looking forward to the season👍
Great video,good to see you back & keeping the channel going , thoughts our with you since the loss of Christian but I’m sure he’s proud of you continuing on & watching over you all . Lee up the good work 👌
@@FS-hp9oy he has past away , think it was an accident, his GS was in a bad way . But don’t know Exactly .
@@FS-hp9oy terrible sad, loved watching them both ,hopefully the other guy can keep it going in his memory.
@@colinclugston4757 OMG, what a terrible loss 😞
I just rode the new Beamer 1250gs and Pan am. Walked out today with a brand new Harley Pan am special. Blue and white! Personally the big difference between Harley and bmw is the Harley feels way faster way more powerful! Just wait till and exhaust and power commander on the Pan Am! Everyone should go test ride a new Pan Am! It will change your thinking
Awesome thanks for keeping the channel going and the reviews coming. Good video.
my condolences to you on your coworker and more importantly good friend Christian. I was unaware until just a few days ago as to what had happened. It is a big shame the world will miss him as I’m sure you do. The two of you have a great camaraderie together on your rides. I will miss him so, but I will most definitely continue to watch your channel both very informative and entertaining. Best of luck be safe.
Thank you! That means a lot!
@@RacingandAdventure My condolences as well. Enjoyed watching him on this channel reviewing motorcycles.
Just fyi there is a traction control button on right hand side on 22’s and you can customize the off road modes, so will fix front end issue off road.
Regarding the seat on the BMW: the optional high rally seat offers 900mm seat height and very swift sitting to standing position transition and allows to ride the bike much more comfortably while seated off-road.
Good to see the channel progressing. Mulsumesc.
I recently came out of bike retirement and was going to purchase the BMW however I decided to buy the Harley. It was the best descion! So far when riding around I have seen 100s of BMWs but NO other Pan Americas... Yes the BMW might be the best but I prefer to stand outside of the crowd (. Ps. I don't go rallying so it's more of a touring thing)
Next batlle should be between BMW Transamerica and Harley Street Glide Limited.
I'll give Harley an A for effort cuz as a first attempt they did pretty good. I'm a long way from considering it, especially over a GS or the Super Adventure R but I welcome the market competition!
It is so much fun, I would definitely recommend checking one out. Downside, you have to spend another 3k to change out rims, tires to make it a true off-road bike.
I would highly recommend you test drive one. I was not a fan at ALL. But, I am now two months in to owning my Pan Am and I’m in love.
@@sheepdog819 I definitely will when I get the chance. Just don’t think it’ll make we wanna give up my 1090r but I’ve got an open mind.
I bet it would make a nice addition to the stable tho 🤙
Good to see these big bikes on the road. You got to hand it to Harley for trying. I in the meantime enjoy my T7.
Hey guys, you’re missing the fact that you can drastically change the suspension settings. It significantly changes the rebound and dampening. Your review is the first I’ve watched that have kudos to the BMW suspension. Most other reviews described it as mite, numb, non-communicative. The Showa electronic suspension is far superior.
As a Moto Guzzi v85tt owner - i love the new HD ;) first Harley i can honestly say I like :)
How do you like your V85TT? Nice it has shaft drive.👍🏻
Clash of the unreliable titans 2021 🤩
Nice video.
Regarding the Pan America I believe you hold the mode button to completely cancel ABS and not Traction Control .. to cancel Traction Control you simply press the TC button on your right side.
Also the tourpack that comes with the Pan America has its own base so it will be able to hold decent weight
Its weird to see him reviewing without Christian. I wonder how he feels without him.
Not the same without Christian...
Nice video Bogdan.Big hello from Croatia
I have those 2 exact bikes... colors and all.
Both are great rides but in the end, I prefer the BMW.
I've owned both brands over the past 30+yrs. There are pros and cons to each but when it comes to ADV market the Germans have had half a century head start. I wish well for HD
Compared both. Nothing to say bad about either but, I took home the HD.
On Harley Davidson web site it states 10kg which is 22pounds max weight on the rack, this is the second video where they state 2.5kg which is only 5.5 pounds, there must be some confusion here.
I own a Pan American and absolutely love it. I really want to ride the BMW GS though. I’m sure it’s a mighty fine bike as well.
Still can't understand why Harley didn't use shaft drive 🤔
It's usually weight that stop them from adding a shaft drive but I see they have a double sided swingarm?
They should have used a belt drive inside a protective enclosure to provide light weight and low maintenance.
@@GruveToob They’d have got crucified right at the presentation of the bike if they showed up with a bike supposed to be able to handle sand and mud with a belt drive...
Shaft drives have their issues as well. No "best" option but I would rather deal with the chain myself. Everyone has a different opinion.
I think one thing everyone would Have to say is Harley did an incredible job for their 1st attempt at something totally outside their comfort zone...much closer to the top than I imagine anyone would have thought
@@PeterAngles-ks9fp 🥱
Hopefully this is the first offering in a list of offerings from Harley Davidson in the ADV style. I’m sure they’ll keep refining the PA to make it as competitive as possible in this segment of motorcycles (I think?) We know this new engine is the future of Harley Davidson moving forward. At least I think it is.
2nd best looking ADV bike out there for me.. i love how post apocalyptic it looks, some mad max shit, not including a quick shifter and drive shaft if it wants to compete with the 1250gs is a huge miss, esp for that price
With those tyres on the sand.....😮😅 great and honest video guys 😉💪🏻
The Harley is a 60 degree V-Twin, NOT 45 degree. The Revolution Max engine is destined for all Harley Davidson bikes over the next 2 years. The next gen Pan America will have a quick shifter. The first Gen was just get the bike into the real world.
I bought a PanAm today and got the Quick-shift option if i wanted... So its allready here👍👍👍👍
@@frodelien3569 Nice!! I cancelled my Pan Am order and am trading in my 2020 Triumph Tiger 1200 for the new 2022 model. I will get the Pan Am during the summer.
@@frodelien3569 wow..nice..so how smooth and functional is it going up and down please?
@@oldhead_ my bike is on it's way from the factory... just saying it is available as an option allready👍👍
I was not sure about your introduction on the suspension systems on both bikes. The Pan America Special has self leveling suspension as standard, whilst the BMW normally gets a system that you have to tune by electronically selecting the load factor, unless you pay the extra money for the fully self adjusting option. BMW has been making the GS for so long that they have got both the quality and the ride almost perfect, but the Harley offers a good alternative.
Good stuff guys. As a GSA owner and having test ridden the Pan America, I agree with most of what you found.
Very informative video thanks season greetings to all
The Pan America is the number one selling adventure motorcycle in the US. I have test rode it several times. I have researched it thoroughly. I placed an order on one. I like the looks of an African Twin and some features. The BMW GS is just a huge motorcycle for me. Not even going to bother looking at other brands as dealerships, parts, finding mechanics who can work on them are few and far between here in the US. If I was going around the world it would be on an African Twin.
Love the fit and finish of BMW. These bikes have spent years refining and figuring things out. Is it perfect? Nothing ever is. But it’s perfect enough for those who love them. Next up will be the new Triumph Tiger 1200 just out. The HD Pan America is a great first attempt but needs some feedback and refining and then commitment by the Motor company to be in it 100%. Good job guys.
Best selling ADV bike in North America. JS
@@twowheelboomer because nobody's else have bikes in stock!
@@12masterr yea, I don't think it's that.
@@twowheelboomer no? What is it them? It have benn selling well because is the only one available, the bike is for a first attempt really good, and is also different, but is not because is better than the others, is miles away from being the best.
Not a good comparison at all. I had the opposite opinion. I stayed off the breaks using Harley wire wheels and proper tires used for mixed terrain. I have road both in Florida sand and Alabama rocks roads. The suspension on the GS bounced me around like a rat in a cage. Front to heavy wanted to low side all the time. Harley was poised and balanced and had a linear power band.
Hope you had it in Off Road + mode. Also you can stiffen suspension in the menu. The 2022 has an optional quick shifter
Well done good review
Durability which one scores?
No use stop in the tropical forest with a gear box problem.
Great review! Tanks guys! 👍😁😷
Nice review! 😀
GS for the win.....again! Which is good, since MY new GS is on it's way here!!!!
I don’t own either but I found this a very good watch. I used to own a gs. I actually quite like the look of the Harley. Only Harley that has interested me. Quite amusing you said it feels like no Harley you have ridden. It feels alive.
Then you should check out the newly released Triumph Tiger 1200. Very Nice!
They forgot to adjust the seat on the bmw. You can set for higher or lower.
chain vs shaft ?
Would like too see a test between the new Triumph 1200, the new KTM SAR, and the BMW GSA :-)
Lovely video!
Where is this filmed?
You did it!
Which ever one you choose, definitely get the extended warranty.
Moto Guzzi V85TT forever!
Get the Madstad screen
i have had both. Tha Pan america is the best in all areas belive me. Wow what a bike
Nice job, but you could talk while you were riding… it was better in the past !
HD :) the Citroen Goddess of adventure bikes; there's always a market. Thanks, guys, thorough as usual. Sand riding usually reveals the truth.
I never knew miles are the distance measurement system in Romania 😂 come on guys, do you really have most viewers from US? 😀
Hi and long time no see...What happened to previous series and where is you mate? It was always pleasure to watch your videos. He was sensible, you were fast!
Regarding HD, I've almost bought it, but chosen SAS 1290 in the last moment occurred to be right decision. Almost 5000 miles done already and bike suits me much better then PanAm. Personally I think that from spring 2022, new fantastic Tiger 1200, especially Rally Pro would still all sales from HD here in UK and reduce Beemer sales a lot. Great bike!
I'm to young for GS anyway ;) and HD is not there yet, maybe next model will prove better. Thanks for video!
The other was in a accident & has passed away,I’m sure everyone had great memories of their videos.Good to see him back & continuing the channel,I’m sure he’s watching over it .Keep up the good work.
@@colinclugston4757 I do apologise for silly questions not doing my homework at all... Life's a bitch! Good lad, great program, so much fun. Hope he's got even better life up there...RIP Bro +
From my experience, BMW always provides reviewers with a top spec bike, it's always optioned up (no base models are given to reviewers). The Pan America you have is the base model, it is not the top spec bike and Harley does have has a quick shift option available in 2022. The plastic rack on the Pan is not intended to put a top box on it, there is appropriate hardware which is fitted to mounting points under the passenger seat for mounting top boxes or carry racks. I am in no way saying that overall the Pan is better than the BMW, it's not, but please, here you are not comparing apples with apples. The Pan is biased for on-road riding (similar to the Duke Multistrada) , so hard-core off-roaders will not favour the Pan. But if one spends most time on road, then it's a no brainer which one is easier to live with.
Exactly. So much missed in this review unfortunately. They should have spent a bit more time researching the bike before filing the video. I have not rode either yet, but will next spring, but was frustrated on the things that they missed.
Neither , Kawi Versys 1k or klr 650 . But if I was wealthy well all 4. .
What happened to Christian?
Died
Motorcycle accident. Very sad.
With such a choice of good Off Rd touring bikes now I think the Harley will still be at the bottom of my choice.Thanks
The last Harley I had was a Buell X1 Lightning and like all Harleys the engine started leaking oil at about 4,500 miles... why would this one be any different. Harley is like a caveman to BMW's modern man.
Buell was NOT made by Harley, it was made by Eric Buell after he left Harley Davidson.
@@Big_John_C it had a Harley 1200cc engine... so what's the difference.
Informative vid but I'm still wondering why his buddy was even invited. Guy behind the H-D wouldn't shut up for almost 18 min!! LOL! Maybe let your bro talk about motorcycles a little.
bmw all the way
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How on earth should HD beat BMW in the adventure segment, lol.
Rode it for 100 miles ? Then wrote a review?
this HD is just not in the league
A beach is not the best place to test big heavy ADV bikes.
How is this even a question? Only a die hard, ignorant HD fan could argue it’s superior.
You lost me at *45° V-twin*
If Harley want to have a chance in this sector they need to pay more attention to styling. The Harley is one of the pig (or more accurately 'hippo') ugliest bikes on the market. Whatever people may say - style matters. Just ask Ducati how well the original Multistrada did?
You can not compare that Harley to a BMW GS, because it's never build to be in that off-road competition. And because two Germans riders doing the test, the outcome is alway's that the German bike will win, even from KTM, Honda or any other brand !
Hd💪❤️
Its easy to do that when you dont care about to wreck your bike and spend tons of money fixing it ...
Don't dog Harley till you hit the rough stuff and leave the pavement to save your skin from a car pulling out on you. You survive. The GS will highline low side and leave you in a ditch. And in the real world thats why you buy either of these machines. BMW has a lighter more capable bike that will accomplish this goal. Leave the pig on the showroom floor.
GS ADV GS ADV GS ADV BEST İN CLASS
Useless comparison. They should at least have come with the same set of tyres.
Comparing the BMW to a Harley is akin to comparing an Audi to a Chrysler.
What on Earth were you thinking?
Exactly. I rode both. Not even close. Bmw every time.
I took a demo ride on a GS, and liked it a lot.Now if I could just get past the looks of it, I’d buy one.🤮
I bought a Pan Am Special on May 28, 2021. I forced the dealership to trade it in on October 20th 2021. It didn’t even last 5 months until the dealership was concerned about federal lemon law kicking in. They were on their 3rd attempt trying to fix the electrical issue that would cause the bike to stall (usually in an intersection) and then go into limp mode. You would have to completely wait for the bike to power down and reboot before it would barely start again. In the time I owned the bike it threw. 16 different codes. The dealership, nor the MoCo knew how to fix this problem. They were more than happy to give me a deal on the trade-in for a Heritage that I really didn’t want either. This bike is absolute garbage.
Sad for your're experience.
Spot on. All kinds of problems. In canada i bought a gs1250 loaded for 2k more then the harley. There not even close in my opinion. What about resale. No excuse to have that many problems. Even for a first year bike. Harley spent 3 years developing this bike.
Klar BMW
The BMW looks so UGLY!
And you think the harley looks good?
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Bmw is far more advanced than the new comer for this segment.
Why to hear you my volume is set at 75% instead I have to cut it at 40% with music (awful too). Shut video and give you my dislike!
Serios ??? Pe plaja, in zona protejata, cu motoarele ???
Se ia lumea dupa voi, ca sunteti formatori de opinie....
Anul acesta traseul Dakar trece usor si pe la noi..deci e totul ok! Chill
They ride where they want. Go out and demo ride and see for yourself. Then decide.
give up Harley got into the game to late never will come close to bmw
Another European Push for BMW. BMW is not cool. Its a PIG on wheels. I would not buy either of these bikes. KTM is unreliable. Suzuki bid is a soft street bike. Yamaha Super T need a real update. That only leaves the King. Africa Twin is the King and any one that rides ADV knows it. This channel is a joke.
Honestly I find the the BMW rides better and it feels lighter than the Africa Twin, which carries the weight very high (especially the Adventure Sports). But I don't really like either of them and think both are too big. But that's just my opinion. Some people prefer KTMs and some prefer Kawasaki. Others will prefer Ducati or Suzuki or Yamaha or Triumph. It's good to have the choice for different budgets, priorities and taste, as well as channels like this where you get to see the bikes and hear their impressions.
🐖 on wheels 😂😂😂
Aprilia Tuareg is a great contender in the Adventure Class now, as well as the Ducati Desert X.
They are comparing the 2 bikes ,the emphasis on the Harley and using the BMW as the yardstick. They are not trying to compare them with the rest of the ADV bikes. They also gave their unbiased opinions and the reasons behind their findings. It would be very unhelpful if they just described the bikes PIGS on wheels or the King or AT The bike for fairies who cannot use a clutch and change gear. That would make it a joke.
@@terryrance2662 Absolutely. Personally I find anyone who claims the AT is "the king" to not be serious either... AT's also have plenty of their own issues and I find it as much if not more of a "pig" than the GS, to be honest.
The Pan America is faster..... fact check lol
just by watching the introduction, when i saw how the rider is lifting up the fallen motorcycle, it was enough for me to stop watching the rest
2.5kg top case is PATHETIC
That was just the plastic back piece. That is not the top case bracket. Unfortunately these guys misstated quite a few details, and were reviewing the base model bike.
Harley is a joke!
No ways compare this two bike, BMW is BMW
Harley Suck…