Possibly the best Lighting kit for Bafang Mid drive kits
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Perhaps the biggest thing not mentioned in the video is the brake light function! Rear light has a functional brake light!
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Can i install that turn light in my hiboy ex6
I can't believe I've watched almost all your videos in the last two months. I've converted two of my bikes. Thank you.
Awesome! Sounds like you caught the bug 😀
I just installed this on my ebike 2 days ago. The turn signals are junk. But I did not buy it for the turn signals, I bought it just for the brake light. I absolutely love it. The headlight is brighter than the headlight that came with my bafang kit and I love it too. I used the license plate as a mounting bracket…I used a torch to heat it and bend it so it would fit perfectly. Again, I freaking love this thing. The brake light is bright, the horn works really good. I paid $62 shipped off eBay. Game changer if you are looking for a plug and play brake light. The brake light works even when the headlight/lights are off.
Sorry for silly question but the brake light engages when you pull brake lever or is it just a rear light?
@@helphelpimbeingrepressed9347 no worries, yes when you pull either brake lever, the brake light lights up. The “tail light” is only on when you turn the headlight on and the brake light works then also. It functions as it should. I’ve rode several times since my last post and I’m still stoked. I love this light set up. The horn was a surprise bonus for me.
Don’t hesitate to ask more questions. Have a great week.
@@Todd66 Thanks Todd, you have a good week too.
@@helphelpimbeingrepressed9347 you are very welcome. And thank you!
Couldn't find my previous comments about lighting sets. Anyway I have the hub version of this on my converted hub e-bike and will have the mid drive version on my newer one. I actually already have the same light set in this video but it's not hooked up because I don't have my mid drive system up and running. Mid drive system motivated by you because you always mention how much better they are than hub motors. We had to cut the wires on the hub version on both the light set and the controller box to make it work. The brake lights don't work but that's okay. Turn signals do and the bell is great. My seller sent me a handlebar clamp for the front light because I still don't know how it would go on without one.
Oh god yes about mirrors. I have them on both sides but use the left one way more. I would never ride on the road without them, especially in Orlando. Traffic is crazy.
I added a headlight and tailight wired in parallel to the 6v spade connectors. Plenty bright. As much as I'd like turn signals, I don't really have room for another control that needs to be near the grips. My 500C controls the lights with a long press of the + button.
Another reason the 500C is my favorite input control.
Ya the other integrated light is nice to have as well. You are right about the secondary control though, fortunately it isnt too wide, but if you dont have much space it might be a deal breaker
The Bafang display has a switch to turn lights on and off. I have an EggRider display for the Bafang and it has a light control as well. That could eliminate the need for a separate control, but it would be used to power a relay. I don't think this kit would work that way from what is described. There are a couple switched terminals under all the potting in the controller and I've been meaning to build something. Those connections are low power to would need to be used to power the relay, well actually a transistor. So far it hasn't gotten done due to lack of time or weather and likely won't as I'm moving the components to another frame and will just go with a battery tail/brake light with an accelerometer on it to light the brake light when it slows down quickly and a battery powered headlight.
I added one of these Lighting Kits to my Performer X Recumbent Trike. I had to extend the harness coming from the light to fit my trike. I have not had the chance to try it at night but I am impressed! I turned off the lights in my work shed and had the lights on and they are quite bright. The turn signals could be a bit brighter. The Tail/Stop light shows up good.
horn is loud enough. I like having the Stop Light coming on when the brakes are applied. Over all a good buy and I recommend it for your Bike or Trike.
Nice. I'm a bit surprised that this is a new thing. Glad that somebody did it.
I've been using bright lights on my bike since before LED lights existed. I used a huge generator and just leg power to drive it. LED lights make it so much easier to have good lighting, and operating off the already-huge-and-expensive main battery of an e-bike seems... obvious.
Thanks for reviewing (and carrying) this system.
I can’t believe it took this long either. I have a garage full of lights that are close to this but don’t work out of the box with Bafang.
I have been commuting on my mid drive ebike with the home trip in the dark and have had to build my own setup with headlight, front and rear turn signals, and working brake and tail lights. Cars treat you different when you have a full setup of lights especially when you have good bright and visible turn signals. I would love for someone to put together a easy to install prewired setup similar to this one with all the components. This comes close but it falls short on the turn signal department and those have the largest impact of all my lights.
Why would anyone ever want to use the power in the main battery for light? It's by far the most important charge. Get a dynamo hub... you will have lights and the ability to charge a large USB battery bank while riding.
It’s a great kit I installed mine last summer and it works great , don’t forget it also has brake light . The signal lights show much better when the tailight isn’t illuminated. What I did was added bullet style tail lights and another front headlight that way during the day my signal lights are visible and I have the other headlight running . I also added the same style to the front so I have front and rear signal lights .
I Like the power tap. Many of the BBxx motors lack the 6v tap.
only down side looks like mo' wires.
My decorator says there is no such thing as a pretty wire
I put one of these on my daughter’s e bike. The one complaint I have is that there is no way to know if the turn signal is on (like a flashing light on the control, so it is easy to accidentally leave it on when you are riding.
Wouldn’t it be great if it made a distinct sound for L & R when on?! Or any sound a all.?! 🤷🏾♀️🤷🏾♀️
That light and switches
I put them on all my
e-bikes as standard.
Especially the ebike's I sell
But I use a smaller back brake light.
On the back of the seat wire going through the tube.
I modify it so has the ground wire works for the brake cut off on & off.
And I wire the back light to the screen switch.
so it can be turned on & off separate from the headlight.
Always love nice early Saturday morning upload. Last summer you inspired me to build a bike even though I was flat broke but had knee surgery so it was either a Ebike... or no bike!
I might have a video of it on my channel.
I know you hate Hub Motors but I got a geared Bafang front hub, even came w new schwalbe marathon tire & a brake caliper for 40 ish bucks..got an eBay controller for 20 something..cheap throttle..and used my mowers 40v 5AH ( lol) battery. My friend wanted a new Walmart bike ,so gave me their Diamondback for free., so I slapped it all on that thing. It was low entry which was perfect for a guy that just had knee surgery. Worked up pretty good it would top out about 24 miles an hour. Could go 12-15 miles with alot of peddling. 8 being lazy.
I don’t hate hub motors! Even though I totally get why people think that 😀 good for you, hopefully it’s helping rehab that knee 👍
@@JohnnyNerdOut Yessir.. There is an fairly level rails to trails paved path 2 blocks from my house, so its been wonderful. I used a broken charger off eBay and gutted it 4 the battery mount.
Now I just wish the snow would go away because I live about an HR from Minneapolis. Brr
You nerding out on theses lights. They look cool.
Anything above about 150 works fine for commuting, butbI estimate that to be about a 300.
Recently installed this kit, so easy and absolutely love it! Any idea if there is a way to control the lights coming on using the long press + on the display buttons? Also it's a shame the display doesn't tell you if the lights are on. It would be absolutely perfect if there was some way to have it interact correctly with the display!
Does this run off 48V? You said the main harness. I'm considering a conversion; still doing my research. Thanks!
No it runs off the plug that plugs in to your display so it's 6v
The missed the boat on this. We need turn signals FRONT & REAR that work, the turn signals switch needs to be a lighted toggle switch that makes a bit of a sound so you won’t forget to turn it off. I’ll wait to buy when someone wakes up and makes a useable product! Captronj
Isn't that kind of narrow? Wouldn't you want a light with wider coverage?
Ideally, yes. that way you dont blind cars ahead of you too. hopefully they make a version2.0
The brake light function goes away if you install upgraded hydraulic brakes. I had this light set on my mechanical brakes and it was awesome for having functioning brake lights on a bike. Then I switched to the new Magura MT5e hydraulic brakes with the red julet cable instead of yellow so I bought the adapter for red to yellow and now the brake light function doesn't work. that was my favorite part of the setup and now it doesn't work so I've since taken the whole system off and went with small removable, rechargeable lights instead for a cleaner and lighter setup. I wish there was another way to have function of the brake light with the Magura brakes but one cable is two prong the other is three so I'm assuming that's why the brake light function went away when I installed the new adapter and brake set. The Magura MT5e set is an amazing game changer so they have to stay and also have to get more for my other bikes now.
I wonder are those accelerometer/gravity sensor rear lights any good? Seems like that would solve your issue, providing they work well.
@@helphelpimbeingrepressed9347 I bought the direct line Ebus cable with 2 prong red Juliet connectors on them from California ebike and now I have full function of the brake lights again for my magura mt5e on my surly karate monkey with my bbshd. Life is great again 🤣
@@williamhudson5384 Hi, can you link them. I am seeing the same issue on my bike and looking to solve the issue of the brake lights always being ON. Thanks!
It seems that the red to yellow adapter is expecting a different set of pins. I ended up buying yellow and red extension cables and splicing them together myself with some solder and shrink wrap. With the yellow cable plugged in and the wires stripped, you'll find that shorting one pair results in the brake lights coming on but no brake indicator on the display while shorting another pair works for both. If you connect that pair to the two wires of the red connector, the switch will bridge the correct wires and things will work.
Thanks your introduce! Which turn signal light will you recommend in 2024? (Have front and rear)
Headlight looks similar to my cheap CREE light that I love. Is there an option out there for the Bafang M620 system?
Hey Johnny, I did have a question on these lights. I purchased these and they work great. The brake light always seems to be ON when the battery is ON/Charging. Is this normal?
I'm having this same issue- Just bought and installed the kit, but the tail light is always on and I fear it's going to drain my battery...
I have been looking for something exactly like this, awesome 👍 much thanks
It would be nice if the light had a flash function for daytime riding.
I am picking up a Trek Marlin 6 that I plan on converting I will be getting a consult soon.
Is the horn integrated into the front light or separate? I'm interested in this kit but won't fit the front light because I prefer my Ravemen CR for the areas I ride in.
It’s located behind the light in the same housing.
I really like this channel 😀👌👍👏
I ran into an issue with this light set (bought on Amazon) and wanted to share a workaround. When I turn on the lights with the display on, the throttle engaged and the back wheel spins. The display showed around 100 watts. Dangerous, I know! If I turn off the lights, no apparent throttle. The workaround was to change the start voltage of the throttle handle from 1.1 volts to 1.6 volts. I hardly noticed any difference in the throttle response and the issue went away. Strange, but true!
Does this just tap off the same +5V supply used for brake and throttle signals? If so, does anyone happen to know what the max current output from the BBSHD 5V rail is? I haven't been able to find this info. I just bought one of these kits from Amazon and I'm interested in adding a few more lights so need to know what I can get away with.
Your product link doesnt work
Just recently got the same kit (without turn signals), but it appears that the tail light is always on (not the whole tail light, but just the upper part of it). I don't want to have to disconnect my battery every time I park my bike- any ideas on why this is happening?
Thanks Johnny!
Thats exactly what I needed for my Rockstar!…
It’ll tie in perfect to my BBSHD….. but I gotta get a rack first, lol
Are there any of these light kits that work with cyc x1 stealth. I use a bafang thumb throttle and it works perfect. Wonder if this kit would work as well?
CYC has their own dual headlight kit. No tail light or turn signals though.
What are your feelings on car horns?
Only if they are wired no less than 3 in series and go off randomly.
What no brake lights? I think brake lights are more important than the turn signals. Also the headlight beam is more like a spot light than a wide headlight beam....
It does! I failed this video ☹️
Also do they work with hydraulic brake sensors..?
Thanks
Yes
so i bought a set very similar (not arrived yet though), but not the bafang version, my forks do not have a hole in the brace, and running it the other way is a no go, i need a way to get the light mounted on the bars. will the fitting (once silver clip thingy is removed), pair up to a gopro mount or the likes? thanks.
The light looks bright alright, but it doesn't look like it has any good pattern. Just a spotlight. I bought a Cube RFR E-80 light and power it by the 6 V outlet, and it is quite bright but also spreads the light wide in front. But maybe I should have went for the E-120 model to get even better light.
Hej!
Was it plug and pay? Or did u have to solder it to the 6v loom?
Hälsningar från Sverige 🤪
@@rickardkevaanranta7808 Hej! The connectors didn't fit, so I crimped on new ones that fit the Bafang loom I have. Maybe it was made to fit Bosch systems, but I'm not sure I remember correctly.
Does the kit on your website come with the horn? It just says light kit and I don't see the horn. Ty
But its out of stock man... Can you plug it into the yellow wire harness?
It plugs into the main wiring harness. The yellow is for gear shift sensor.
3W?
There is new lights kit for bafang on aliexpress. It looks like improved. No videos on YT jet.
It's October 26,2022, do you have the light kit in stock? If so I will buy one!
Yes. I have plenty
Hi I commute on my 2019 rad rover with a hub motor which I've all ready ridden 5800 miles in two years.so do you think this will work on my bike giving me two light both frunt and rear and were will I have to connect it that's the question. 🤔♥️🚴♂️🚴♀️🚴♂️🚴♀️🚴♂️🚴♀️🚴♂️🚴♀️
Great question. I want to say no it won’t work because wire harness and pin out will be different that than of the Bafang mid drives
Awesome I just got one for my bafang setup the horn is pretty loud although I'm a little disappointed in the product the lights while bright don't seem to very water proof or at the very least water resistant 😢 is there a way to swap out the lights for something more water resistant?
Is this still the only option for full lights and horns for the bbs02?
No. There’s a few out there that are very similar
@@JohnnyNerdOut are any of them better when it come to turn signals and dp you sell them?
How does it connect to the display on the front?
What do you do w/t the 6v wires if you aren't using them? I plan using them on my built(Devinci Cameleon 1 + BBS02 500w/48v 17.5Ah battery). Michel Desjardins.
You can cut them or just tuck them away in case you need them down the road
Hey, that looks awesome! Are the cables quite long? Enough slack? I'd love to install it on a long tail (Yuba Mundo) but i'm just concerned the wire could be too short at the back.... Thanks!
Great question, it might require some custom wiring to elongate the rear light cable to accommodate a cargo bike.
@@JohnnyNerdOut Well, i bought the lighting kit, and fyi it fits my Yuba Mundo out of the box (in case anyone is wondering!). It 's about exactly the right length at the front and back. Awesome kit!
mine came with a light attachment but it wasn't obvious how it would attach, just 2 parallel metal rods joined in a loop at the end.
Bafang makes a light for it that has matching connectors for it. I sell those on my site for about $12
There is a version of these lights in order to connect directly to the battery, as well as those that connect to the built-in motor - to the controller input, as well as a version shown in the video. Be careful which ones you order look almost the same.
Where can I buy the light kit and what is the brand name
Would love to install one of these but having difficulty finding one that goes with my drop handlebars. Thing is that it's 26mm diameter and there is not much space on the handle bars for the switch because of the interruptor breaks. Anyone out there had and resolved this type of issue? Thanks
Will it work on my Frey EX Pro that has a G510 motor?
Are they water resistant ?
Is it worth taking them apart and applying some liquid electrical tape and dialectic grease at the connectors?
I live in the UK and the weather is terrible here.
Am still not sure if I should get a BBSHD or not.. am worried about water damage.
Also
How do lights actually work, could you explain a bit more in depth please ?
Are they visible in the evening time? Cheers
Sorry for all the questions.
They will work fine in the rain.
only for mid drive? i want a kit for my hub motor
Do you lose functionality of the light coming on automatically when its dark with it having a button for it?
Only integrated 6 volt light with some displays are automatic this combo is manual with a botton. I order it 1 week ago and waiting to come to my country.
Yes
Hold on?! If it’s inline that means it’s running of the 5V line on the main wire harness. The main harness doesn’t carry the full battery voltage only 5V according to the bafang documentation. Is that 5V capable of this much current/power??
I don’t know actually. But it’s much brighter than the 6v out
@@JohnnyNerdOut So it doesn’t have main batt voltage in? And this is a bbs02 right? If so it must be 5v. Which is fantastic, cause I have been thinking of wiring a phone charger to the 5v. If it can handle this then a phone is no problem :)
Nah, sur Ron headlight with separate rechargeable 12 volt battery. battery goes in bag on toptube. Easy, cheap, powerful, done. 👍
Hi Johnny, do you have any experience with Truckrun motors? It seems these would work well with those, they have very similar components, but since you only recommend them for Bafang I wanted to see what you think.
I haven’t tried their motors yet. Although I have a feeling that they come from the same factory ….
@@JohnnyNerdOut Haha, they sure seem to come from the same place! Thanks for the reply, great content!
I ordered these lights 1 week ago, I expect they will come from China in a month. Unfortunately, by then I will no longer need them for this winter season because until they come the day will be 30-40 minutes longer and I will not need them but I will be ready for the next one. The built-in 6 volts are good but extremely insufficient. However, I think I'll keep the built-in 6 volts because they are automatic and are perfect for going through darker enclosed spaces. The turn signals are meaningless, they must be something separately placed both 2 in front and 2 at the back on both sides of the frame then it will make sense. Although legally in most countries they are illegal and you still have to signal by hand.
You didn't mention it in the video, but the rear light should light up a little more when the brake is applied - like a stop light. I can't wait for mine to come.
I know and it’s a huge feature 😀 dope!
Hey johnny, i know you hate folding bikes, but in the summer i take a boat to work every day and they make you buy a ticket for your bike, unless its a folding bike.. I am currently looking at the Citizen London as it seems to check all my boxes, but id love to get a custom built one with a middrive if you have any thoughts, i would like it to be 50 pounds or less all in
I dont hate Folders:) they definitely have their purpose! I'd recommend riding it before converting if possible to make sure you like the ride feel and ergonomics
@@JohnnyNerdOut i know you also dont like prebuilt companies hahaha, but do you know anything about citizen, are they a decent brand?
@@doctadrey3000 I don’t have any first hand experience 😞
@@JohnnyNerdOut that’s fair, any folding bike brands you’ve heard of that are good 😅.. and affordable
Sold!
No documentation in the box with this kit.... basic wiring diagram and how to mount the headlight would be helpful and save me a bit of time...
That is cool!
I like the horn ⚠️
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AliExpress has that light kit for 20.00 shiped i have the same light kit 😅😂😅😂
Link?
reselling ebay kits for 70. business guyyy
I know your thing is selling stuff for a profit and all, but why are you recommending that riders use power out of their main battery when 99% of the time that battery is too small even for its intended purpose? Batteries are the most expensive component on most ebikes and they are considered expendable. With that fact in mind treating them right can save thousands of dollars over a few years. Fully charging a lithium pack and burning it down to a minimal charge repeatedly cuts their effective life by 2/3rd. Some figures say the difference between 500 recharge cycles and 1200+. So riders that want to get the most for their money are (or should be) only using 65% capacity of the pack... charge to 85% don't deplete past 20%. And, you recommend using that power for lights? You sell horns too? Recommendations made specifically for personal profit, you should have been a plastic surgeon, Mr. Out.
Yo, this light is amazing. I know you have your issues with me :) but bury it for a minute and try these light kits! Buy it from BroncoBikes so you don't have throw me any business :)
FYI they are LED bulbs so they draw next to nothing, probably last 2 full days off a 52v 14ah battery running nonstop. You are correct about battery lifespan and draining though. Like all lithiums, they like to be kept between 30-80% charged for max life span.
These lights and horns are EASILY worth 5 watts its draws. (you find out how long your battery will power your lights by dividing that by the wh rating of your battery.
If you are a Bafang rider, these are the lights you've been wondering why they havent been invented yet.
@@JohnnyNerdOut It's not just you, dude... it's anyone using YT as a part-time job recommending any piece of crap they can get people to buy. Do you ever recommend anything that you do profit off? The difference for me is that I don't carry my bike somewhere on the back of my car to ride, or ride around the house for an hour or two at a time... although I have been doing that very thing a lot for a few months now. If you don't have access to A/C every night you look at ebiking in a different light... pun intended. I use a Schmidt SON dynamo hub and a great light, an Edelux II, then back that light up with a Lumina 1800 Dual-beam light that can be mounted on the bike or my helmet and used as a flashlight off the bike. A dynamo hub lets me have a headlight at all times and I can keep every piece of USB electronics I carry charged without access to A/C. The only time I use my lithium pack for anything other than moving the bike is when my solar panel is deployed and I want to heat water using a 12V glow-plug.
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Using the power in the ebike battery for anything other than turning the motor is the same as siphoning gas out of your car to start a campfire. How much do you actually ride?
I disagree with you on most topics and question your integrity in recommending something for a profit... like an electric bike horn. I know for a fact that you have given poor advice to people trying to score YT hits and spare change. But, hey, if people are willing to take the advice of someone trying to sell them something then P.T. Barnum was right. Maybe you should look into snake oil.
You talk too much. You tell us how wo default the light is, but do you not think theost intelligent thing to do is to show I detail how it is wired up?
It just plugs in-line into the wire harness. one connection, I didn't think it was worth showing
Johnny, how do you attach the front headlight to the frame with that bracket on the light ?
Through front fender hole on the fork
Johnny there is no front fender hole, I think I will drill and tap thread. What size would you recommend bolt 6M maybe ?