Have to say goxlr! As a musician too faders nobs are so crucial for me. Love my goxlr just got it couple days ago. Was using Voicemeeter Potato and still do when i take my laptop to my work to connect to another pc but the functionality of the goxlr and the software is amazing. Thanks Harris for another amazing video!
I would go with the GoXLR, no pun intended. It is $220 at Sweetwater and I think it provides a better value than the WaveXLR. The WaveXLR appears to be a stripped down Audient Evo with wave software. To me it is overpriced for what it offers. I would think $149 would be a more fair price and if it had the better inputs.
I have the Scarlett. And I couldn’t agree more with how you graded it. It has one job in mind and it does it just fine! I’ve had no issues with my and the light on the gain nob tells me when I’m peaking too much or I’m too turned up too high etc. I would suggest it to anyone with an XLR mic that doesn’t care too much about streaming
I’m not a streamer so for the Focusrite Solo is perfect for me. I have a ElectroVoice RE320 plugged into it and it sounds fantastic out of that little guy. I just needed something to get my mic into my computer for vocal recording and that did the trick. So simple!
I agree! Also appreciate how simple it is to route audio out of the Scarlett and into my studio monitors. Picked up a pair of KRK Rokit 5 Classics recently and it was as simple as plug and play.
That´s the most overrated interface ever, EVO 4 from audient cost same money but does much more than that, it has smart gain, two mic inputs and loopback
I actually bought a Focusrite Solo JUST for the ability to have my headphone volume control on my desk. The ability to use it as a mic interface when I upgrade my mic from a USB mic... is a bonus to me
I hear ya. I collect equipment so I'm not pressed. I got 2 yeti. Snagged a goxlr super cheap recently. Gonna probably grab a sm7b. For those that dont know the TC-helicon (goxlr guys) started beacn. They are showing some promising things. Check em out.
I love the Elgato XLR, you mentioned you gotta use the mouse, or buttons to control the sliders. I found a neat little work around. I use my old tablet as a third monitor/usb monitor on my pc. So I just project the Wave Software interface to my tablet and turned it into a touch screen GOXLR basically. so I just slide the sliders via touch screen instead of having to tab out to tweek settings. its nice.
That's a brilliant idea, never would've thought of that. I didn't realise you could use a tablet as an extra monitor/extended desktop, is that easy to do? Doesn't have to be a windows tablet does it?
@@beans314 cant post the link, but there is plenty of YT tutorials on how to turn a tablet into a usb monitor. or if you feel like wasting a nice chunk of change, you can get a usb to display port wire.
I really dig that the hair light has softened and doesn’t cast too many shadows anymore. Thanks for the comparison, I still love my GoXLR for streaming.
I would say the feature you missed was the 1/4" on the Scarlett Solo. Not a common thing for a streamer to want or need, but I was surprised and intrigued that you were including the device at all. There are people out there (even you as a musician) who might want that functionality, even though it is quite budget-level.
I’ve been considering reasonable upgrades for quite some time, and this helped me have a clearer understanding of the different XLR interface options and why they work for different purposes. Thank you!
One thing would be good to mention that there's been "XLR Interfaces" for over 30 years (modern style for maybe 15-20 years) with good preamps and AD-converters so there's plenty, PLENTY to choose from especially on the used market if you're just looking for a USB interface. It's not just the Focusrite Scarlett.
Yamaha MG 10XU is still one of my fave devices. Because I've upgraded my audio interface recently, I just use it mainly as a monitor controller for several devices (one of which is my PC) but having the extra inputs has come in handy when the proverbial hits the fan LOL
I mean this isn't helpful to everyone BUT I do know some streamers who have a gimmick or a rare stream where they play an instrument, OR where they play Rocksmith while they stream and to those people, the scarlett is of obvious benefit with its ability for you to plug in an instrument with a 1/4 jack
This did help me a lot. Currently using the Scarlet Solo and considered getting the Wave XLR. Still on the consideration list but not a NEED right now.
A VERY IMPORTANT THING, depending on your microphone, with GoXLR vs GoXLR Mini, is the fact that the Mini only has 24v Phantom Power for your condenser mic, should you have one, whereas the GoXLR has full 48v, which is the most common for condenser mics. The GoXLR MINI is the only device NOT providing 48v Phantom power. the GoXLR, the Focusrite Scarlett, The Wave XLR, and the Nexus all provide 48v.
@@maxadrums so it does…….you said it didn’t provide it, not that it did, but you had to do something via the app. Your comment makes it seem like if you have a condenser microphone it won’t work with a go xlr mini which is not the case.
@@confusedannoyed9901 it won’t. And it doesn’t have 48v phantom power. Your two options with the MINI is to have it off, or have 24v phantom power. There is no option for 48v phantom power on the Mini, then you need to buy the full goXLR. At this point I’m starting to think you might be a troll account though, but hopefully some people get something out of this conversation that clears things up. GoXLR Mini: 24v phantom power GoXLR: 48v phantom power. Most condensers will require 48v to work properly.
@@maxadrums agreed, like condenser microphones are able to work on a go xlr mini, I own one and use an at2035 on it and have also used a neat worker bee on it with zero issue and the same sound quality as my wavexlr. Sorry you we’re confused.
11:29 So the other thing here that is a dealbreaker for the GoXLR mini for me is that digital knobs that turn forever in both directions work regardless of whether their values change either in the software, or if say your cat walks on the keyboard and changes the value (of a GoXLR fader), and since GoXLR mini faders aren't motorized then you have a discrepancy between the physical fader and its value on the digital side. That to me is a deal breaker and it's something you don't have to deal with, with knobs like the Avermedia option has.
for something in the price range of a GoXLR, but with WAY more channels and physical faders for each, Tascam Model 12 or 16 is a great option. Class compliant, each input shows up in OBS so no need for extra software, & preamps sound great.
i'd love to see an updated version of these or a "setup suggestion per budget bracket" including the Beacn Stuff, and mic suggestions. would be nice for people who are thinking on upgrading their stuff, especially if upgradability was a factor
It's definitely not as small as these devices but I would like to see you talk about the rodecaster pro for streaming. They have made changes that make it good for live broadcasting.
I love the rodecaster pro. I use it for podcasting. It's one of the best podcasting audio interface/mixer out there. However, if you want to use multi channel option for OBS, you can't or you have to do a workaround with a plugin. Other than that, it's very useful and very wide.
I use the Rodecaster Pro for streaming. It works really well. I don't care about multichannel into OBS though... I use the Rodecaster's built in audio effects to EQ it.
Thanks for the comparison. I actually purchased the GoXLR Mini a week Prior to the Elgato Wave XLR coming out. After checking your review and others on UA-cam, I returned the GoXLR Mini and picked up the Wave XLR. I LOVE the mixer. It was VERY simple to use (I am no audio engineer) and I just use the reaper OBS plugins for EQ and it works wonderfully.
My Wave XLR arrives tomorrow...so when I saw this video my first thought was "great, now Harris is gonna tell me I should have just bought a GoXLR instead..." So, happy to see the Wave is actually gets the seal of approval. Extra happy because I'm using it with an MV7. It's like you made this for me... :p
Harris! I highly recommend the Motu M2 interface. It has a headphone amp that can easily drive high-powered headsets like my Beyerdynamic DT770 250ohm, It has enough power to drive a SM7B without a cloudlifter, and the VU meters in front are very good for watching your clipping. The preamps are very clean with an extremely low noise floor. I'm surprised more people aren't talking about it. Especially for $169 dollars. The only complaint I have about it is that there isn't an input blend knob between self-monitoring and the game. That comes on the Motu m4.
I don't know why more people don't talk about it. Dual inputs, plenty of gain for 48v mics, high headphone output power and a 1/4" jack for real headphones. Clean dac. Man I love my Motu M2
@@TearlessGosling It's godly and needs to be talked about more. I wanted to go for the Scarlett 2i2 initially but then I did my research. Such a good bang for your buck!
Love the Scarlett- but yeah it’s for music basically. I can plug in mics and DI guitar- run through ProTools or a comparable system it’s great. But that’s really it’s function
Yeah I’ve been using a usb blue yeti and voicemeeter banana for many years now. Tho I have a beringher xeny mixer and audio teknika mic in my basement but no way to connect it to my PC
killer function for me is VST support in chain directly in wave software. Set default Mic with FX in windows FOR ALL APPLICATIONS is very very convenient
As someone who doesn't stream the goxlr is perfect. Can plug a good quality mic into it and have physical faders all I would ever need. And it's way cheaper in the eu then in the us it seems.
Note that you ONLY need an interface to your XLR mic if it is Condenser. Dynamic XLR mics do not need an interface and can be directly (through an USB adapter) plugged in to your PC without any loss of quality since they don't need phantom power.
You should really try the Presonus Revelator, both the mic and the interface. It's basically a Wave mic and a Wave XLR, but with VSTs directly from Presonus.
I like (mostly) the software for the Revelator, however the microphone itself is not that great. I'm hoping they'll go the Wave XLR route and make it available for other microphones
About two years later, I'd say by now the Wave XLR is elevated to legendary status just from the additions they've made and the additional tools that they've developed. Wave XLR now has built-in VST's that you can add to the Wave Link software on a per-input basis, which means that literally every source of audio can have its own VSTs running. On top of this, they've also released the Stream Deck + which has programmable knobs that you can not only use to adjust the volume of Wave Link, but also use it with a ton of other tools. The increase in overall price to have that functionality would probably be the only detractor, though--$159 for the Wave XLR and $199 for the Stream Deck +. It's worth it if you use it, though.
I currently use the Yamaha MG10XU and though its worked great for years I recently decided to make the switch to the Wave XLR because you can just pass the gaming PCs audio from through the Elgato 4K60 Pro Mk2 into OBS so there is no need for a GO XLR for the dual PC setup. Only reason I could see getting one for is if you want extra control or to be able to talk to people on your gaming PC but 99% of the time I'm in Discord with my friends or viewers on my streaming PC where all of this is hooked up anyways. I definitely think that Elgato should come out with a full on direct competitor to the GoXLR or Beacn with the extra I/O and functionality. Call it the Wave Mixer for let's say $350. It would be sold out instantly.
I personally use linux for my streaming pc and that limits my options. I can say that my scarlett 2i2 combined with a cheap usb midi mixer works as great as most of the other options, but it is considerably more setup. But i personally find that it works consistently and with incredible os integration, as you can integrate seemlessly.
I got a combo of a MOTU M4 audio interface, a KORG Nanokontrol 2 DAW controller, and two Shure Beta 58A microphones. I got so much control on so many channels of audio, using two microphones, two cameras and still… it’s not for everyone. My setup is for control freaks who don’t mind putting work into it. But the outcome in my humble opinion humbles all of the choices in this list.
Hey Harris!! Great comparison! Though I am surprised you didn't wait to add the new Beacon products coming. However, if I had to pick a device you missed, I'd recommend the Evo 4/8 Audio Interface from Audient. They have a great form factor similar to the Wave XLR, but are between the Wave and the Solo as far as features. More I/O option than both. And cheaper than the GoXLR and even the the Evo4 is same as the Solo with better features. Thanks for the great video
Imo nothing beats the MG10XU assuming you are willing to learn the ins and outs of the board. Having on-board compression, EQ, panning, a total of 4 mic pre amps with 64 db of gain, 24 on board effects, all for ~$200 and the added cost of having to learn how to use it makes it one of the best interfaces if you want bang for your buck.
When I started streaming I just used my studio set up. My Rode Nt1a and Gen 1 Scarlett solo has had people asking if im using a Shure (My mic is offscreen) The fact you just plug a mic into it is perfect. I routed VST's in from my Reaper DAW and tweaked it until it sounded good in monitoring. Compression and gain made up for the shortfall in dB Would take that over getting plug and play/USB for just streaming due to being able to control every single aspect of my mic
Definitely helped me out, thinking about doing a Wave XLR with a PC panel for the faders, though I am also waiting to hear see what the Beacn Create has to offer, and maybe it'll give me good reason to use it instead!
If you got a old tablet laying around, you can connect it to your pc using a displayport to usb cord and just slap the Wave XLR panel on it and use it as a touch screen fader. my old samsung tablet that was in the junk drawer is now my dedicated WaveLink interface.
Love the reviews and the channel, but I thought I should point on you should say the Elgato Wave is the only one that comes with its own software to give you those features. There are other options out there. While I don't disagree with your assessment the the XLR mics offer you more flexibility and options much more easily, you do have other albeit sometimes clunky options out there. ie. I use a Blue Yeti with Audio Hijack and Loopback.
I am happy with Motu M2 + DBX 286s sound quality BUT I can't recommend Motu M2 because it is very unstable on Windows system because of drivers, have some issues on Ryzen 5000 systems (that is more AMD problem, but still) and USB-C just melted on my card so I had to replace it. But some people on forums says that USB temperature is going up to insane 100C, so that's not only my issue, but constructive problem. OSX people happy with it tho.
I got the Focusrite early last year so I can do music stuff at home during lockdown stuff. I've ended up streaming with it, and it works pretty well, nice and simple.
Harris, you should have tested the Audient Evo 4! It's only 10 bucks more than the Scarlett Solo and it has some more features that benefit streamers, such as loopback and pan monitoring
A solid device. Great functionality pretty intuitive. My only gripe is that it's a bit of a "block". If only it had the inclined format of the Wave XLR
I like my Yamaha AG06. USB mixer. Clean sound and all the inputs/outputs I need. I can hook whatever I want into it and it has phantom power if I need it. I also have a Scarlett solo, but the Yamaha is just better overall. Go XLR is just gimmicky streamer gear to me, especially when there's pro audio equipment for around the same price.
For a traditional mixer I think the best option is the Yamaha AG03 but another device I was interested in is the Tascam MiniStudio. It was discontinued for a while but re-released recently.
Haha using Scarlet solo 3 for an year already, easy for everything, why you should pay around twice more to have features what you using 1 time per day, what can be used in main menu or desktop for same 1 time a day🤦♂️ and still price is everything for new steamer or starting musicians🤷♂️ 24/192 is still great for this price point
I have the focusrite 3 solo which i've used for a while, but this video convinced me to get the GoXLR Mini. Just more options, not too big, and a bit more gain. Gonna wait until black week and probably pick this up! Subbed and thank you :)
A couple of gripes I've had with the Wave XLR since picking it up would be the fact that you can't hook your keyboard volume keys to the monitor output in the wave software, and far more importantly if you have a use case for more than one microphone you cannot use multiple wave devices on the same computer. I still like it for the reasons you mention in the video but it's going to be replaced very quickly if they don't implement multiple devices very soon.
This TOTALLY helped me. I have an SM7B (as a podcaster) and use a goxlr as a streamer but was never really happy with it. Now that new systems are coming out, I’m always interested to see what you think of them and where you rate them. I think I’d like more reviews and in-depth comparisons like this in the future.
I just got my shure mic so I plan on buying the Elgato xlr. I have 2 stream decks and Elgato foot pedal. Very functional and each button depending on scene or what it may be that impacts audio automatically fades to the corrected inputs and outputs. I need to continue to use all 9 channels for the way i have my stream set up with the use of extra auxiliary’s. I don’t plan on doing a duel pc setup anytime soon being how beefy my current rig is so this is perfect choice for my streaming experience.
From my advice I'd stay away from the GOXLR Mini. I've read online and experienced it myself, the Mini has no interference plate on the bottom. This means any electrical interference near the device will b picked up by the microphone - I've never been able to remove my hiss from my mic due to this, and it only seems to be getting worse.
Love ya man! I’ve been trying to decide between the GoXLR and the Elgato for starting streaming, so it was nice to see some other options too. Definitely leaning towards the GoXLR Something about having the analog hardware faders in front of me really tickles my audio engineerhood. Feels quicker too. I can hopefully do without submixes. Happy streaming!
I really prefer the MG10XU to any of the streamer specific interfaces, but my audio is coming from several different sources (more than the GoXLR can handle). Really weak preamps though, a cloudlifter is required for most dynamic mics.
Even tho this video is almost spot on, there's just one point that i have to take away, and that's the scarlett funcionality. You are absolutely right when it comes to the scarlett solo, however, For the same price as the Avermedia Nexus, you can get the Scarlett 8i6 3rd gen, which not only has focusrite control (which is extremely awesome for streaming), it has loopback function, and that for streamers makes everything a lot easier. great video tho :)
I'm glad I watched your video. I was thinking of buying an XLR mic and interface. But it looks like I'll hold off on buying one until you have a review on what BEACN has to offer.
Great video as always Harris! I just got the Wave XLR as well and to be honest.. as soon as they add some VST controls of some sort. It is hands down my favorite.
I have been watching so many video about mixer and this video made me make my decision. Im going with XLR mini. I stream console and i think thats the best choice.
Really wish there were more streamer centric interfaces. Seems like your only options are interfaces meant for musicians that don't really have any built in features for live streaming or expensive streamer options like the GoXLR or Avermedia Nexus. The Wave XLR comes so close, I just wish it had a slightly better I/O and that there was a more concrete timeline for when they're finally going to add built in VSTs.
The Scarlett did have a particular sound through my studio monitors, but it's the interface I use so I'm kind of use to hearing it *shrug* The Nexus is very appealing for livestreaming purposes. Maybe they'll have it sorted by the time I can afford it. Songwriting streams using the Nexus and Scarlett in tandem come to mind.
The one thing about the Wave XLR and Wave Link Software that upsets me is the lack of EQ, and the fact that there isn't a 3rd submix for chat. I'd like to be able to control chat, monitor, and stream separately. I know the GoXLR does it, and I could use that, but the last GoXLR I bought was GARBAGE. Great product if you get a working one, but for some reason it just gave me hell. I switched to a Wave XLR and I love it, I just wish we had those features.
i have many issues too with my Goxlr, it got me nightmares. Touching it with my finger is enough to disconnect or make the application checking an update and i don't know why. The sound of my mic is horrible. I just got the Avermedia Nexus and i don't have these issues anymore.
@@helleborenoire9165 Truthfully the Avermedia Nexus was great for the month I had it. Then Elgato released the promo for their Wave XLR setup, and I was like... "yeah I'ma refund this real quick. " I ended up sending the AverMedia back with the Wave XLR as a replacement, and since then I've loved it. I already had a stream deck, so the Wave XLR paired with that just kind of worked out well for me.
I still use the Yamaha MG10XU, don't see me changing unless it breaks because it does everything I want it to do and it does so quietly and consistently. 😎👍🏽
the only downside to this list is that the scarlett and the goxlr are the only ones that allow you to have mic side tone and also output to a headphone amp and use audiophile headphones. could have been mentioned and it matters quite a bit.
You went in to it a bit and some interfaces have really good headphone amps and 48v amps to power the harder microphones like SM7B. When people cheap out they can miss alot when going with a cheaper interface, cheap headphones and go for a expensive microphone, in my world it's better to start with a good foundation and get the better microphone later because you can get to 85% of what the Shure SM7B give you for alot less with some tweaking.
It's nice to talk to such a device with the argument that you can use filters in the obs then it's lagging, because if the device itself brings these filters with it, they also have an effect on the discord, for example.....
Thank you for the video. Please consider doing a software based video like this, assuming there's content. I have simple needs, send my gaming PC mic audio to my streaming PC without extra hardware. Voice Meter works, but it's a bit overkill for that application, can be tricky to setup for some, and it's constantly breaking due to various system updates. Maybe ask Elgato if they're working on something? :)
Gonna have to redo this whole freaking video when the Beacn Create is finally launched. That thing looks dope. Which device is your favorite?
So no Nexus update? Because I think I'm going to love it.
Motu M2/M4 lineup are easily my favorite for audio interfaces. You should give them a look, definitely a better interface than the scarlett.
Have to say goxlr! As a musician too faders nobs are so crucial for me. Love my goxlr just got it couple days ago. Was using Voicemeeter Potato and still do when i take my laptop to my work to connect to another pc but the functionality of the goxlr and the software is amazing. Thanks Harris for another amazing video!
Have you heard of the Presonus Revelator IO24 ? It looks promising on paper!
I would go with the GoXLR, no pun intended. It is $220 at Sweetwater and I think it provides a better value than the WaveXLR. The WaveXLR appears to be a stripped down Audient Evo with wave software. To me it is overpriced for what it offers. I would think $149 would be a more fair price and if it had the better inputs.
I have the Scarlett. And I couldn’t agree more with how you graded it. It has one job in mind and it does it just fine! I’ve had no issues with my and the light on the gain nob tells me when I’m peaking too much or I’m too turned up too high etc. I would suggest it to anyone with an XLR mic that doesn’t care too much about streaming
I’m not a streamer so for the Focusrite Solo is perfect for me. I have a ElectroVoice RE320 plugged into it and it sounds fantastic out of that little guy. I just needed something to get my mic into my computer for vocal recording and that did the trick. So simple!
That’s a great combo !!
I agree! Also appreciate how simple it is to route audio out of the Scarlett and into my studio monitors. Picked up a pair of KRK Rokit 5 Classics recently and it was as simple as plug and play.
I almost like Re20 with scarlet better than Shure sm7b and cloud lifter better. Shure pics up my cello really wel. I game and play music on stream !
That´s the most overrated interface ever, EVO 4 from audient cost same money but does much more than that, it has smart gain, two mic inputs and loopback
I actually bought a Focusrite Solo JUST for the ability to have my headphone volume control on my desk. The ability to use it as a mic interface when I upgrade my mic from a USB mic... is a bonus to me
I'm buying the Wave XLR -- This was the video that convinced me. Thanks Harris for clear, entertaining, and honest gear reviews. I love your channel.
I love the idea of a hardware slider instead of a software controlled one, even if it takes up more space
Yea because i don’t want to have to keep scrolling through different apps it takes too much time
thank you for diving into the content without having fillers or a 5 min commercial about how well you’re doing farming us. respect you harris
I'm still holding out for what BEACN has to offer - I have high hopes.
Haven't heard of that one. What's it going to be?
@beacn
same! but I hope we don't need to wait too much longer for details, I've been in the market for an interface for AGES now, haha
Is there a link to the site for this new product coming out soon? I cant find it online.
I hear ya. I collect equipment so I'm not pressed. I got 2 yeti. Snagged a goxlr super cheap recently. Gonna probably grab a sm7b. For those that dont know the TC-helicon (goxlr guys) started beacn. They are showing some promising things. Check em out.
I love the Elgato XLR, you mentioned you gotta use the mouse, or buttons to control the sliders. I found a neat little work around. I use my old tablet as a third monitor/usb monitor on my pc. So I just project the Wave Software interface to my tablet and turned it into a touch screen GOXLR basically. so I just slide the sliders via touch screen instead of having to tab out to tweek settings. its nice.
That's a brilliant idea, never would've thought of that. I didn't realise you could use a tablet as an extra monitor/extended desktop, is that easy to do? Doesn't have to be a windows tablet does it?
@@lachlanbell8390 nope. I use one of those small android tablets.
@@pepsilove6306 how'd you do that?
@@beans314 cant post the link, but there is plenty of YT tutorials on how to turn a tablet into a usb monitor. or if you feel like wasting a nice chunk of change, you can get a usb to display port wire.
I really dig that the hair light has softened and doesn’t cast too many shadows anymore. Thanks for the comparison, I still love my GoXLR for streaming.
I would say the feature you missed was the 1/4" on the Scarlett Solo. Not a common thing for a streamer to want or need, but I was surprised and intrigued that you were including the device at all. There are people out there (even you as a musician) who might want that functionality, even though it is quite budget-level.
Just upgraded from my Scarlet Focusrite solo to the wave xlr! Couldnt be happier 😁
I’m doing the same! I need that audio control for my teammates ! Have you researched if it’s better than the goxlr?
@@andrewkromholz4434 short answer, if you aren’t planning on getting a 2 PC setup, 1000% do it its so useful and cheap compared to the goxlr
I’ve been considering reasonable upgrades for quite some time, and this helped me have a clearer understanding of the different XLR interface options and why they work for different purposes. Thank you!
I really prefer the wave xlr because of it's functionality and simplicity plus how compact it is
One thing would be good to mention that there's been "XLR Interfaces" for over 30 years (modern style for maybe 15-20 years) with good preamps and AD-converters so there's plenty, PLENTY to choose from especially on the used market if you're just looking for a USB interface. It's not just the Focusrite Scarlett.
Yamaha MG 10XU is still one of my fave devices. Because I've upgraded my audio interface recently, I just use it mainly as a monitor controller for several devices (one of which is my PC) but having the extra inputs has come in handy when the proverbial hits the fan LOL
I mean this isn't helpful to everyone BUT I do know some streamers who have a gimmick or a rare stream where they play an instrument, OR where they play Rocksmith while they stream and to those people, the scarlett is of obvious benefit with its ability for you to plug in an instrument with a 1/4 jack
I use the SSL2 USB interface the one with 2 inputs
I've got the full-size GoXLR, and I absolutely adore it. Wouldn't trade it for the world at this point.
This did help me a lot. Currently using the Scarlet Solo and considered getting the Wave XLR. Still on the consideration list but not a NEED right now.
I got the scarlet solo for my birthday and I love it too
A VERY IMPORTANT THING, depending on your microphone, with GoXLR vs GoXLR Mini, is the fact that the Mini only has 24v Phantom Power for your condenser mic, should you have one, whereas the GoXLR has full 48v, which is the most common for condenser mics.
The GoXLR MINI is the only device NOT providing 48v Phantom power.
the GoXLR, the Focusrite Scarlett, The Wave XLR, and the Nexus all provide 48v.
What are you talking about? The mini has 48v phantom power
@@confusedannoyed9901 It does not. Read the manual. "Phantom power +24 V, switchable via control app"
@@maxadrums so it does…….you said it didn’t provide it, not that it did, but you had to do something via the app. Your comment makes it seem like if you have a condenser microphone it won’t work with a go xlr mini which is not the case.
@@confusedannoyed9901 it won’t. And it doesn’t have 48v phantom power. Your two options with the MINI is to have it off, or have 24v phantom power. There is no option for 48v phantom power on the Mini, then you need to buy the full goXLR.
At this point I’m starting to think you might be a troll account though, but hopefully some people get something out of this conversation that clears things up.
GoXLR Mini: 24v phantom power
GoXLR: 48v phantom power.
Most condensers will require 48v to work properly.
@@maxadrums agreed, like condenser microphones are able to work on a go xlr mini, I own one and use an at2035 on it and have also used a neat worker bee on it with zero issue and the same sound quality as my wavexlr. Sorry you we’re confused.
11:29 So the other thing here that is a dealbreaker for the GoXLR mini for me is that digital knobs that turn forever in both directions work regardless of whether their values change either in the software, or if say your cat walks on the keyboard and changes the value (of a GoXLR fader), and since GoXLR mini faders aren't motorized then you have a discrepancy between the physical fader and its value on the digital side. That to me is a deal breaker and it's something you don't have to deal with, with knobs like the Avermedia option has.
for something in the price range of a GoXLR, but with WAY more channels and physical faders for each, Tascam Model 12 or 16 is a great option. Class compliant, each input shows up in OBS so no need for extra software, & preamps sound great.
Yeah those are dope
i'd love to see an updated version of these or a "setup suggestion per budget bracket" including the Beacn Stuff, and mic suggestions.
would be nice for people who are thinking on upgrading their stuff, especially if upgradability was a factor
It's definitely not as small as these devices but I would like to see you talk about the rodecaster pro for streaming. They have made changes that make it good for live broadcasting.
I love the rodecaster pro. I use it for podcasting. It's one of the best podcasting audio interface/mixer out there. However, if you want to use multi channel option for OBS, you can't or you have to do a workaround with a plugin. Other than that, it's very useful and very wide.
I use the Rodecaster Pro for streaming. It works really well. I don't care about multichannel into OBS though... I use the Rodecaster's built in audio effects to EQ it.
@@heyjaywilson To each it's own. I agree the EQ on it is great.
I just said this
Thanks for the comparison. I actually purchased the GoXLR Mini a week Prior to the Elgato Wave XLR coming out. After checking your review and others on UA-cam, I returned the GoXLR Mini and picked up the Wave XLR. I LOVE the mixer. It was VERY simple to use (I am no audio engineer) and I just use the reaper OBS plugins for EQ and it works wonderfully.
My Wave XLR arrives tomorrow...so when I saw this video my first thought was "great, now Harris is gonna tell me I should have just bought a GoXLR instead..."
So, happy to see the Wave is actually gets the seal of approval. Extra happy because I'm using it with an MV7. It's like you made this for me... :p
old comment but how did you like the wave xlr? still using it?
Harris! I highly recommend the Motu M2 interface. It has a headphone amp that can easily drive high-powered headsets like my Beyerdynamic DT770 250ohm, It has enough power to drive a SM7B without a cloudlifter, and the VU meters in front are very good for watching your clipping. The preamps are very clean with an extremely low noise floor. I'm surprised more people aren't talking about it. Especially for $169 dollars. The only complaint I have about it is that there isn't an input blend knob between self-monitoring and the game. That comes on the Motu m4.
I don't know why more people don't talk about it. Dual inputs, plenty of gain for 48v mics, high headphone output power and a 1/4" jack for real headphones. Clean dac. Man I love my Motu M2
@@TearlessGosling It's godly and needs to be talked about more. I wanted to go for the Scarlett 2i2 initially but then I did my research. Such a good bang for your buck!
Love the Scarlett- but yeah it’s for music basically. I can plug in mics and DI guitar- run through ProTools or a comparable system it’s great. But that’s really it’s function
Would love to know if they’ve fixed any of the Nexus issues.
Great video, thanks for making it :)
The Elgato is appealing, but until they make an interface with multiple inputs/outputs I'll be staying with a Focusrite and Voicemeter Bannana.
Yeah I’ve been using a usb blue yeti and voicemeeter banana for many years now. Tho I have a beringher xeny mixer and audio teknika mic in my basement but no way to connect it to my PC
killer function for me is VST support in chain directly in wave software. Set default Mic with FX in windows FOR ALL APPLICATIONS is very very convenient
I had absolutely no idea what to look for in an interface...so this definitely helped a ton!!!
As someone who doesn't stream the goxlr is perfect. Can plug a good quality mic into it and have physical faders all I would ever need. And it's way cheaper in the eu then in the us it seems.
Note that you ONLY need an interface to your XLR mic if it is Condenser. Dynamic XLR mics do not need an interface and can be directly (through an USB adapter) plugged in to your PC without any loss of quality since they don't need phantom power.
Don’t do that, they lose a considerable amount of sound quality that way.
You should really try the Presonus Revelator, both the mic and the interface. It's basically a Wave mic and a Wave XLR, but with VSTs directly from Presonus.
I like (mostly) the software for the Revelator, however the microphone itself is not that great. I'm hoping they'll go the Wave XLR route and make it available for other microphones
@@Vertshark The already did, Revelator io24, basically a Wave XLR
@@Camilink94 One up on it with two XLR inputs. Also like the individual control for phantom power for each input
About two years later, I'd say by now the Wave XLR is elevated to legendary status just from the additions they've made and the additional tools that they've developed.
Wave XLR now has built-in VST's that you can add to the Wave Link software on a per-input basis, which means that literally every source of audio can have its own VSTs running. On top of this, they've also released the Stream Deck + which has programmable knobs that you can not only use to adjust the volume of Wave Link, but also use it with a ton of other tools.
The increase in overall price to have that functionality would probably be the only detractor, though--$159 for the Wave XLR and $199 for the Stream Deck +. It's worth it if you use it, though.
I currently use the Yamaha MG10XU and though its worked great for years I recently decided to make the switch to the Wave XLR because you can just pass the gaming PCs audio from through the Elgato 4K60 Pro Mk2 into OBS so there is no need for a GO XLR for the dual PC setup.
Only reason I could see getting one for is if you want extra control or to be able to talk to people on your gaming PC but 99% of the time I'm in Discord with my friends or viewers on my streaming PC where all of this is hooked up anyways.
I definitely think that Elgato should come out with a full on direct competitor to the GoXLR or Beacn with the extra I/O and functionality. Call it the Wave Mixer for let's say $350. It would be sold out instantly.
I personally use linux for my streaming pc and that limits my options. I can say that my scarlett 2i2 combined with a cheap usb midi mixer works as great as most of the other options, but it is considerably more setup. But i personally find that it works consistently and with incredible os integration, as you can integrate seemlessly.
I got a combo of a MOTU M4 audio interface, a KORG Nanokontrol 2 DAW controller, and two Shure Beta 58A microphones. I got so much control on so many channels of audio, using two microphones, two cameras and still… it’s not for everyone. My setup is for control freaks who don’t mind putting work into it. But the outcome in my humble opinion humbles all of the choices in this list.
Cool story about Reaper, it's developed by the same people who made Winamp back in the day. In other words, it kicks the llama's ass.
I couldn't help but notice you have an ernieball musicman majesty. wow
Hey Harris!! Great comparison! Though I am surprised you didn't wait to add the new Beacon products coming.
However, if I had to pick a device you missed, I'd recommend the Evo 4/8 Audio Interface from Audient. They have a great form factor similar to the Wave XLR, but are between the Wave and the Solo as far as features. More I/O option than both. And cheaper than the GoXLR and even the the Evo4 is same as the Solo with better features. Thanks for the great video
This is not a joke but I've been doing a deep dive into this very subject for the last 2 weeks!
Follow up: seriously glad this video exist and I agree with the scores given to each product at the conclusion
Just curious. 1 year later, what did you go with?
@elm0jon I didn't end up getting a XLR interface. My HyperX solocast is great and I've been able to EQ my mic for streaming in OBS
I just got the yamaha AG03 and I love it. It has everything I was looking in a interface/mixer, Comp, EQ and effects.
Imo nothing beats the MG10XU assuming you are willing to learn the ins and outs of the board. Having on-board compression, EQ, panning, a total of 4 mic pre amps with 64 db of gain, 24 on board effects, all for ~$200 and the added cost of having to learn how to use it makes it one of the best interfaces if you want bang for your buck.
Been looking at the Wave and GOXLR for a bit now. Probably gonna go with the wave. the software looks solid and the hardware looks simple enough.
Thanks bro I value your audio equipment knowledge and experience. I'll get the Go-XLR.
I would love too see a comparsion to voicemeeter. Alternatively also interesting could be the Soundcraft UI series or the new mackie onyx mixer
When I started streaming I just used my studio set up. My Rode Nt1a and Gen 1 Scarlett solo has had people asking if im using a Shure (My mic is offscreen)
The fact you just plug a mic into it is perfect. I routed VST's in from my Reaper DAW and tweaked it until it sounded good in monitoring. Compression and gain made up for the shortfall in dB
Would take that over getting plug and play/USB for just streaming due to being able to control every single aspect of my mic
The Wave XLR in my shopping cart loves this video.
Definitely helped me out, thinking about doing a Wave XLR with a PC panel for the faders, though I am also waiting to hear see what the Beacn Create has to offer, and maybe it'll give me good reason to use it instead!
If you got a old tablet laying around, you can connect it to your pc using a displayport to usb cord and just slap the Wave XLR panel on it and use it as a touch screen fader. my old samsung tablet that was in the junk drawer is now my dedicated WaveLink interface.
Love the reviews and the channel, but I thought I should point on you should say the Elgato Wave is the only one that comes with its own software to give you those features. There are other options out there. While I don't disagree with your assessment the the XLR mics offer you more flexibility and options much more easily, you do have other albeit sometimes clunky options out there. ie. I use a Blue Yeti with Audio Hijack and Loopback.
I am happy with Motu M2 + DBX 286s sound quality BUT I can't recommend Motu M2 because it is very unstable on Windows system because of drivers, have some issues on Ryzen 5000 systems (that is more AMD problem, but still) and USB-C just melted on my card so I had to replace it. But some people on forums says that USB temperature is going up to insane 100C, so that's not only my issue, but constructive problem. OSX people happy with it tho.
I got the Focusrite early last year so I can do music stuff at home during lockdown stuff. I've ended up streaming with it, and it works pretty well, nice and simple.
Harris, you should have tested the Audient Evo 4! It's only 10 bucks more than the Scarlett Solo and it has some more features that benefit streamers, such as loopback and pan monitoring
A solid device. Great functionality pretty intuitive. My only gripe is that it's a bit of a "block". If only it had the inclined format of the Wave XLR
I like my Yamaha AG06. USB mixer. Clean sound and all the inputs/outputs I need. I can hook whatever I want into it and it has phantom power if I need it. I also have a Scarlett solo, but the Yamaha is just better overall. Go XLR is just gimmicky streamer gear to me, especially when there's pro audio equipment for around the same price.
For a traditional mixer I think the best option is the Yamaha AG03 but another device I was interested in is the Tascam MiniStudio. It was discontinued for a while but re-released recently.
Haha using Scarlet solo 3 for an year already, easy for everything, why you should pay around twice more to have features what you using 1 time per day, what can be used in main menu or desktop for same 1 time a day🤦♂️ and still price is everything for new steamer or starting musicians🤷♂️ 24/192 is still great for this price point
What a good video man! love your content and helps out so much!
I think the Native Instruments komplete audio 1 is also really good,as a budget option
i like how the AVerMedia Livestreamer Nexus has a Line out for Audience for a second PC
I have the focusrite 3 solo which i've used for a while, but this video convinced me to get the GoXLR Mini. Just more options, not too big, and a bit more gain. Gonna wait until black week and probably pick this up! Subbed and thank you :)
A couple of gripes I've had with the Wave XLR since picking it up would be the fact that you can't hook your keyboard volume keys to the monitor output in the wave software, and far more importantly if you have a use case for more than one microphone you cannot use multiple wave devices on the same computer. I still like it for the reasons you mention in the video but it's going to be replaced very quickly if they don't implement multiple devices very soon.
I love my scarlet. Glad I had it from when I went from recording music to streaming. There's tons of free plug INS out there.
This TOTALLY helped me. I have an SM7B (as a podcaster) and use a goxlr as a streamer but was never really happy with it. Now that new systems are coming out, I’m always interested to see what you think of them and where you rate them. I think I’d like more reviews and in-depth comparisons like this in the future.
The Scarlett works perfectly fine for voice overs and single instruments. Definitely recommend it just for that.
Great video Harris!! Sam, awesome job on edits as always!!!! Or Scott. Lol love ya guys keep it up!!
MTRX Studio with Dante is doing some amazing things in my setup.
I just got my shure mic so I plan on buying the Elgato xlr. I have 2 stream decks and Elgato foot pedal. Very functional and each button depending on scene or what it may be that impacts audio automatically fades to the corrected inputs and outputs. I need to continue to use all 9 channels for the way i have my stream set up with the use of extra auxiliary’s. I don’t plan on doing a duel pc setup anytime soon being how beefy my current rig is so this is perfect choice for my streaming experience.
I am a drum streamer with a large kit, so I actually use a Scarlett 18i20 with an Octo Pre for 16 channels and I use 13 of them. LOL
From my advice I'd stay away from the GOXLR Mini. I've read online and experienced it myself, the Mini has no interference plate on the bottom. This means any electrical interference near the device will b picked up by the microphone - I've never been able to remove my hiss from my mic due to this, and it only seems to be getting worse.
Awesome, insights! I've just entered this market and this info was KEY
Nice choice on background music! That is one of my fav Streambeats!
I love how every video with the wave software Harris has to brag about coming up with linking the sub mixes XD
Your videos are amazing, man! Thank you for being so wonderful
03:52 Man that background tho, kind a spooky for me😁
Love ya man! I’ve been trying to decide between the GoXLR and the Elgato for starting streaming, so it was nice to see some other options too. Definitely leaning towards the GoXLR Something about having the analog hardware faders in front of me really tickles my audio engineerhood. Feels quicker too. I can hopefully do without submixes. Happy streaming!
Same here but I’ll go with the goxlr mini
But for record singing what is the right choose?
The Scarlett solo with voicemeeter helps it out quite a bit
I really prefer the MG10XU to any of the streamer specific interfaces, but my audio is coming from several different sources (more than the GoXLR can handle). Really weak preamps though, a cloudlifter is required for most dynamic mics.
You should do a budget comparison. The M-Audio M-track duo. $70 xlr audio interface. This thing is amazing!
Nice comparison video- good information as usual!🙌🏼🙌🏼
Even tho this video is almost spot on, there's just one point that i have to take away, and that's the scarlett funcionality. You are absolutely right when it comes to the scarlett solo, however, For the same price as the Avermedia Nexus, you can get the Scarlett 8i6 3rd gen, which not only has focusrite control (which is extremely awesome for streaming), it has loopback function, and that for streamers makes everything a lot easier. great video tho :)
I'm glad I watched your video. I was thinking of buying an XLR mic and interface. But it looks like I'll hold off on buying one until you have a review on what BEACN has to offer.
bruh what are the odds i legit JUST started searching for audio interfaces to use on my stream and you post this 😂😂😂
Rode Podmic and Wave XLR is an awesome minimalistic microphone setup.
Review the Audient Evo 4 already! Seems to be the combination between the Scarlett and the Wave XLR with 2 XLR inputs!
From my understanding, the Evo 4 is just a portable version of the Focusrite 2i2.
@@ThexAlien It seems to have a better sound and 2 XLR inputs for very little more money. Seems to be the better buy.
Just picked up the wave xlr. I was using a zoom podtrak p4. I love the wave link software. Now time for the stream deck +
Great video as always Harris!
I just got the Wave XLR as well and to be honest.. as soon as they add some VST controls of some sort. It is hands down my favorite.
Edit: Production is on another level. Way to make me feel bad haha
I have been watching so many video about mixer and this video made me make my decision. Im going with XLR mini. I stream console and i think thats the best choice.
I prefer hardware based interfaces instead of the more modern approach which depends on a software controlled interface
Thanks! Now I will seriously consider using the Elgato Wave hardware! 🙏
Really wish there were more streamer centric interfaces. Seems like your only options are interfaces meant for musicians that don't really have any built in features for live streaming or expensive streamer options like the GoXLR or Avermedia Nexus. The Wave XLR comes so close, I just wish it had a slightly better I/O and that there was a more concrete timeline for when they're finally going to add built in VSTs.
The Scarlett did have a particular sound through my studio monitors, but it's the interface I use so I'm kind of use to hearing it *shrug*
The Nexus is very appealing for livestreaming purposes. Maybe they'll have it sorted by the time I can afford it. Songwriting streams using the Nexus and Scarlett in tandem come to mind.
The one thing about the Wave XLR and Wave Link Software that upsets me is the lack of EQ, and the fact that there isn't a 3rd submix for chat. I'd like to be able to control chat, monitor, and stream separately. I know the GoXLR does it, and I could use that, but the last GoXLR I bought was GARBAGE. Great product if you get a working one, but for some reason it just gave me hell. I switched to a Wave XLR and I love it, I just wish we had those features.
i have many issues too with my Goxlr, it got me nightmares. Touching it with my finger is enough to disconnect or make the application checking an update and i don't know why. The sound of my mic is horrible. I just got the Avermedia Nexus and i don't have these issues anymore.
@@helleborenoire9165 Truthfully the Avermedia Nexus was great for the month I had it. Then Elgato released the promo for their Wave XLR setup, and I was like... "yeah I'ma refund this real quick. "
I ended up sending the AverMedia back with the Wave XLR as a replacement, and since then I've loved it. I already had a stream deck, so the Wave XLR paired with that just kind of worked out well for me.
I still use the Yamaha MG10XU, don't see me changing unless it breaks because it does everything I want it to do and it does so quietly and consistently. 😎👍🏽
the only downside to this list is that the scarlett and the goxlr are the only ones that allow you to have mic side tone and also output to a headphone amp and use audiophile headphones. could have been mentioned and it matters quite a bit.
You went in to it a bit and some interfaces have really good headphone amps and 48v amps to power the harder microphones like SM7B.
When people cheap out they can miss alot when going with a cheaper interface, cheap headphones and go for a expensive microphone, in my world it's better to start with a good foundation and get the better microphone later because you can get to 85% of what the Shure SM7B give you for alot less with some tweaking.
Have had the evo 4 from audient for a while now. Its been perfect for gaming
Was thinking of getting go xlr but I wasn’t aware of the submix issue. Thanks
It's nice to talk to such a device with the argument that you can use filters in the obs then it's lagging, because if the device itself brings these filters with it, they also have an effect on the discord, for example.....
Thank you for the video. Please consider doing a software based video like this, assuming there's content. I have simple needs, send my gaming PC mic audio to my streaming PC without extra hardware. Voice Meter works, but it's a bit overkill for that application, can be tricky to setup for some, and it's constantly breaking due to various system updates. Maybe ask Elgato if they're working on something? :)