The worst part is she gave that baby back to the mom for her to discover it herself. For her to try cpr on him knowing he's already gone. I have no words.
You articulated exactly why this is so horrifying to me. It's so horrible it's making me physically sick and I'm shivering. My husband found my sister in law dead and 911 kept trying to make me do CPR. She was in rigor mortis, she was gone. I told them I would not, they kept insisting. It was so upsetting. I can't imagine going through this with my child.
@@Kathleen-vl5ws i'm so sorry that happened to you. i hope you and your husband are not lost to grief, but get to heal from that trauma. you are strong.
@@Kathleen-vl5wsThat's awful 😢 I wish 911 operators would be trained to understand that rigor mortis isn't difficult to recognize, even for people who haven't seen it before. I know some people can be resuscitated directly after death (I was, when I was 18 and had a severe illness) but no one can be resuscitated when they're in rigor mortis, and it's traumatizing for that person's family.
He wasn't necessarily there every time the horrible events occurred. He may have been technically home but that doesn't mean he was inside or in the same room as her while she was doing the abuse. He might actually believe her lies and be blinded by love. I've known guys like that who didn't see the direct abusive actions, so they had a hard time believing it, especially because they want to believe the woman they love so much, is innocent of such a heinous crime. Considering there's absolutely no evidence whatsoever against him, it's completely possible. Especially since she didn't even try to throw him under the bus to save herself.
He was out hunting when baby Benson was murdered and he wasn't there when the 11 month old supposedly fell off the couch..I don't think he's completely innocent tho because he knows what she is capable of and still let her babysit
The fact that this channel had someone asking questions off camera is really creative and unique and it really does enrich the story too. It’s like we are asking the questions. It makes you feel so engaged.
Yeah her husband asks all the questions that I make in my head and instead of going back a few seconds back in the video to understand it better, she just answers him
@@VexindraI personally find it really cute how he asks questions to understand better and be more engaged, and the way she reacts to them is really healthy as well to help him understand, it’s just sparking curiosity and wanting to learn more. I could tell they both really love each other ❤
@@RosieDecaro Absolutely, they are very sweet to each other. It just takes me out of the moment when he is describing or repeating something she just explained. Almost like an interruption. Regardless I'm loving this channel.
Omg I remember a case where a mother brought her de@d child to a daycare, the workers wanted to wake him up but she insisted he had a rough sleep so they didn’t wake him and the mother left. They left him in a quiet room and when they went to check on him they realised he was gone. Luckily they found the mother at her job
@@RO-B96 I remember that case. Didn't the baby die of SIDS and the mother was having some kind of break from reality? Or this has probably happened more than once sadly.
You could think of Steph calling her Gollum from Lord Of The Rings 🤣😂 If it helps since Gollum is relatively harmless as well as it being unexpected in a good way. It is creepy though 😥
I smile when I’m caught haha can’t help it. I’m a diagnosed aspd so maybe she has a similar thing when the other person knows your motives and despite trying to deceive them it doesn’t work it you create this huge smile because you realize how detached from this scenario you are. You are faking these emotions like a clown in front of people you don’t care about to evoke what you want and a failure of this action is super funny (at least in my head) so I smile 😃
I do have to say that smiling and or laughing in stressful, or scary situations is 100% normal, just like crying, it’s a reaction to adrenaline, so please don’t judge people for it; however, I will agree that because of who she is and what she has done, it definitely makes her unsettling and definitely freaks me out
There is NO way she’s 28. She looks 40 at the VERY LEAST. wtf?! This is why I allow NO ONE to watch my girls. I trust absolutely no one with my babies 🥺
@@mirosawwojewodzki5360hey now! I work in daycare as an infant teacher. Daycares get a bad reputation because the news only reports bad things that happen in some daycares. That doesn't mean they are all bad. I have been at the daycare where I work as an infant teacher for 7 years. I have never, not once, had a parent complain about me or have any problems with me as their baby's caregiver at all! I am a mother of 5 and grandmother of 3 myself. I would never harm a child! It would be impossible for any of the teachers in any of the classrooms to hurt a child at the daycare where I work because every classroom has a camera in it plus there are 2 cameras in the hallway and cameras outside on the four playgrounds we have. There is a large TV monitor mounted on the wall in the office and the director and owner can see the video feed from every camera at all times. If there is ever a concern about anything from a parent or staff member, the director and owner can go back and watch the video footage to see exactly what happened. They have only had to do that once when a teacher accused the cook of smacking a child on the mouth. This teacher texted the child's mother and told her this and also reported it to state. The mother came in and she and the director went back and watched the video footage from the time that this incident allegedly occurred. The mother walked out of the office after stating that she saw the cook do no such thing to her child. The state consultant that came to investigate the incident was also shown the video footage and came to the same conclusion. She closed the investigation and reported that the claim was unsubstantiated. The employee that made the false accusations had it out for the cook for a reason she had made up in her own mind!
@@starcherry6814 yeah it's disgusting have you ever noticed that all these worst cases unspeakable murder usually has meth involved, it's like people keep thinking it's something to play with and ignore the fact that it was the fuel that drove the Nazis to how sick and depraved they were
People also do this when crazy uncomfortable, nervous, or lying. Never done a single drug in my life and I have the same odd mannerism. It's genuinely unconscious, and hard to stop. I've gotten yelled at a few times over it.
Yeah it’s crazy you’re the first person to mention this. She is clearly high as fuck and incapable of feeling anything. That’s why she’s so bad at faking it.
A friend of mine is studying to become a pre-school/daycare teacher, and sadly one of the first things they taught her is that whenever you receive a kid that's asleep you have to either wake it up or check it's vitals before the parents can leave exactly due to this kind of case. The cruelty of some :(
When I worked at my stepdaughters day care I worked in the baby baby room. One morning one of my favorite girls came in to school. She had DARK purple bruises on her neck. Mom said it happened at aunts house and that she fell. The placing of that bruise was NOT a fall. That child was GRABBED by the neck. People are HORRIBLE towards children these days and i just cannot stand the thought of touching any baby in any kind of violent manner EVER
@@hayleyelizabeth7895 actually its not just today. Crime statistics have fallen in recent years. Many horrible things done to kids were often hidden or just never revealed to the world, that's why people thought it was safer... Sadly it was never safe.
@@hayleyelizabeth7895 that's really awful! Were you able to document it or what was your train of thoughts after seeing that? Our choices and empathy matter, but it also sucks when you see something like that irl but you can't protect the child all on your own.
This shit happens in daycares too homie. Happens in hospitals, happens in schools, happens in churches, happens in foster care, happens in one's own house, etc... it's sad but it's everywhere.
@@politicallyincorrectcow8514 as someone who was raised by a single mother of 4; no, no I do not. I'll be 42 this year and my mom struggled but she never gave up. She may not have been able to give us the things we wanted but she made damn sure we had what we needed. But under this current administration it's even harder on her than it was before and the messed up thing is she doesn't have to support anyone but herself now. We need Republicans in the high positions as it's the only way to strengthen our economy. I get the Dems want equality for everyone but I'd rather have a strong economy than having my weird ass ideas protected. And these people fighting to push their agendas and beliefs down everyone's throats cause they want attention? Well if everyone converts to your ideas it's not gonna be long before you're no longer unique or creative or anything special as everyone will be the same as you. Is that what they really want? I'm gonna start calling these "rights activists" me-me's cause that's all they are; a bunch of me ,me, me first attention seeking crybabies. None of them give a sh*t about equality. They only care about themselves and people with the same beliefs. They're quick to start a war with anyone that doesn't understand their lifestyles. They say they're for equality yet want everyone else to bow down before them. TF outta here with that bs. It'd be nice if everybody could get along and love each other, but as long as we have people putting their weird ass so-called rights before issues that effect everyone we shall never be able to get along. Everybody has rights, but I promise you that trying to force people to be ok with your radical ideas is not one of them. Making anyone who doesn't understand your way of thinking is also not one of them. It's bullying is what it is. Until three people can simultaneously look each other in the eye, we will never know world peace
not just audacity but plain crazy, knowing that the baby is dead/dying and even thinking about Mcdonalds is mind boggling crazy, pyhsco, and everything else. (comment made before listing to episode)
The same question that I got for my biological father. I mean I look like him and people do compliment me sometime but god how does he pulled 7 women into his life and have multiple kids that he don't even pay child support for. But for real though. She doesn't even look that good or have good personality. I guess some people goes down bad with this case Or maybe judge by how Adam acts, evil people stick together?
I'm a mom of 6..I had stared at my sleeping babies a million times making sure they were still breathing...I cannot imagine one time watching for their breath and not seeing it. Absolutely heartbreaking. That lady is evil...
@@ramen9141 you were being rude by judging the original commenter's life choices. yeah, *you* think 6 is too much, but they don't. as long as they're happy and the kids are safe, why do you care?
@@ghosty_whosty9986 well it is factually too much, it's disgusting, world is already overpopulated, plus I doubt they can afford to raise them properly when they're 6 in this economy unless they're filthy rich,
The way she just said "It was just one kid,like the other two were an accident too.its not fair."Absolutely set me on fire,like are you serious!?And smiling like she is innocent!(This is why i never trust anyone with my nieces or nephews!)
If she isn't supposed to be around children legally, with the police knowing she was babysitting , why didn't they immediately arrest her and question her down at the station??
I'm not sure I can't find out this information It looks like she had a ton of charges on her record for drugs and even violence towards the police... I mean but if parents don't do a background check or don't even just look around which you can find a lot of this information on State Police websites for free... And simply by searching the person's name or address online... I have no idea why their parents or any parent will leave children in her care she does not behave mentally well. But yeah I'm not sure why that was going on because I can't find information why she had her own children taken from her care either. She looks like she had charges and she looks like she had reports about harming other people's children but no official charges. Yet I'm not sure about the CPS case because I can't find that info.
@Katiecat7ate9, that's a very good question!!! They knew immediately that she was going against a court order (or whatever type of legal action that she was supposed to be under) so they SHOULD have, I would think 🤔
I had once a neighbor who had been convicted for rxpe and mvrder, people kind of knew he had been in trouble with the authorities but no one looked it up (and even now it takes a moment to find his conviction along with the details), but he was always a nice man who would help others in times of need, he'd always been nice and warm, a lot of families with kids would pop up around his house to greet him and whatnot. It wasn't until he passed away that we found out about the truth because police officers went to clear the house and they told some people that they always knew and would check on him to make sure he was behaving well and all that So yeah, I can understand parents not doing a whole background check on someone they know to be a good person
@@dawndoesartno they didn’t. she admitted to having the child in her care when she wasn’t supposed to be around children at all. they could’ve taken her in
her smile freaked me out. she doesn’t even look upset or worried, just plain evil. this is such an awful case, thanks for covering, hope people stay safe with their children and babysitters
Psychopaths nor Sociopaths can hide their true emotions, but they aren’t able to feel remorse/guilt. But she’s definitely a sociopath. she has a conscience, but she continues to deny her actions she knows they’re wrong and is probably justifying them in her head.
they way she kept zoning out while the cops were asking her questions it was like she was thinking of an excuse also very common people zone out like that when they are high im not saying she is but she looks like she is the way she kept zoning out it could be something else again not accusing this woman she was high just saying how it looked like
Her smiled scared me so much. I have this habit of copying people’s facial expressions and without knowing did the same expression, like artists when drawing a character. It reminded me of whenever I read something funny. She is absolutely insane and should be punished. I hope the best for the family who dealt with what should have never happened. I hope that baby Benson finds peace in the afterlife.
This sounds morbid, but babies are not actually that fragile. They fall, roll off things, get dropped by tired parents, etc. and are generally fine. The amount of force you would need to FRACTURE THEIR SKULL is absolutely horrifying to think about.
To kill a baby is already evil but to give the baby’s body _back_ to the mom just so she can discover it for herself? Thats worse than pure evil. Words can’t describe how horrific that is.
I remember watching the interview on another channel and I was just shocked. Her kids were taken away yet she could still babysit. How does that make sense.
She wasn’t allowed to be around children. Even her youngest wasn’t allowed to be around her so they left him with her husband but they went around it and you know people don’t really check up on things.
her children were taken after the first incident , then there was a second incident, then this was here third incident. why wasnt she already behind bars? if she would have been this poor baby would still be alive.
And continue to have babies?!? Why they didn't monitor her even long enough to know she was pregnant again? It seems like cps is off their game to allow that!
@@pennywagner1608I’m guessing they couldn’t prove the second one wasn’t an accident, and her children were taken away, maybe she did go to jail for the first incident.
I bet it was that people treated her nicer when she was pregnant and she liked that. She didn’t care about the kids, just about being pregnant and getting that positive attention.
Or she's like Diane Downs who said kids are so easy to replace, and getting pregnant is so easy. A disgusting way of looking at it but that's what psychopaths think because they don't have empathy and only think of themselves.
OMG I just realized, may be one reason why a lot of women say they love being pregnant. Crazy! I hated being pregnant, it was hard for me, I had twins, but the whole thing I wouldn’t want to do it ever again. And I had a very healthy pregnancy/childbirth.
This is why I babysit for my sister at the drop of a hat cause there are way to many cases of babysitters doing stuff like this. I would rather go out of my way and drop all my plans to watch them than my niece and nephew be sent to an unfamiliar person to be cared for. You never know. Can't be too safe now days.
My kiddos go to daycare with working CCTV and where I live, govt funded. Without that, I wouldn't allow my kids to stay with anyone not close family or friend. America needs to catch up so desperate parents aren't forced to compromise
57:00 imagine being the woman who stopped to probably give Marisa praise for handling two babies, unaware that one of them is actually dead. How eerie.
@@aleebea Im not saying she should feel guilty or is in anyway responsible for anything that happened. I’m saying its eerie that she was just going about her day and unknowingly interacted with a killer.
Yeah, I and I noticed how the murdering b*tch kind of positioned her body in front of baby Benson’s car seat, like she didn’t want to the nice stranger to look too closely at him. Sickening and so, SO sad 😞
the fact that she was suspected and accused of two incidents of injuring children before this and even got her parental rights taken away but wasnt in jail to begin with is ridiculous
@@KarosheusIf they’re not forcing anyone or harming anyone in their beliefs, then it doesn’t really matter. shouldn’t bother you so much. there’s no such thing as a “no time” to talk about my father 😂
This story is so sad. I felt that poor moms pain through the video. I love the way you both do your videos. I love how you have your husband ask questions throughout the video cause it's usually question viewers think
i couldn’t imagine opening up your baby’s carrier and seeing a DEAD AND COLD baby. it’s disgusting. god bless everyone who has to go through death of babies.
@@Frogssavedme girl?? im just replying to this person since theyre a stay??? do we have to be sad ab everything?? im dont have to be crying at the comment section wake tf up
@@huskyukiyou dont need to be crying, you need to be mindful. This is a veryyy sensitive topic so you need to make sure that you nor others make insensitive comments. Im not saying you were insensitive or rude in any way, but plss be careful ☺️☺️ NO HATE BTW!! ❤️❤️
How infuriating and devastating it must be to find out your child's killer is smiling and laughing while being questioned about the murder, especially someone you trusted. I can't even imagine her pain.
She could also have what is called "gallows laughter. " This comes from back when people were getting hanged (the gallows). They would get so overwhelmed. Psychologists even use this today when people are talking to them about intense emotions. I am NOT in any WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM trying to defend this horrible woman. I'm just giving a possible insight to her laughter besides her being only high. This story is devastating. I still to this day worry about losing my children and they are grown.
@@armylink8371 Yes, she is on methamphetamine....think cocaine times 20. People on meth tend to act VERY odd, paranoid and have the wrong emotional response to certain situations. You can also tell by her skin. Meth users typically will pick at their face, or anywhere on their body. (Source: grew up around meth users)
I wouldn’t trust that freak with a pet fish let alone a baby. She has the creepiest face I’ve ever seen I am so uneased by everything about her. Her hair, smile, sunken face, creepy house… I’ll be having nightmares. My deepest condolences for the loss of that sweet little baby
I wouldn't be surprised if he was the one who caused the injuries on some of the children, and she's covering for him. He's got way too short of a fuse to be able to handle small children with patience. If hes acting that way to police, imagine how he would treat someone whos smaller than him and can't properly defend themselves.
She had a hickey on her neck that wasn't previously there when she dropped off the kids and she said Adam was hunting while she was watching the kids. Maybe he was there and they were having sex but the baby was being too fussy and crying so someone shut him up. Turned him on his belly to muffle his cries so they could continue fucking. Makes sense to me....
His conversation with the cops makes me think the opposite. Idk why, but the whole "She's supposed to give me the babies when she's angry" sounded convincing to me
The way she constantly tries to be a "Mother" is honestly disgusting...the four kids that got away are truly blessed and I hope they never cross paths with them ever again
I lost a child at 6 weeks old… I wanted to die. I wanted to die with him. I was so sad, I thought I would actually die of heartbreak. I had a healthy pregnancy, no complications. I was older than 35 but aside from that not high risk. He was in his crib, 1 fitted sheet, no pillow no stuffed animals, blankets nothing. Exactly how it’s supposed to be for their safety. Wh had checked & fed him at 3:30 am but we woke again at 5:30 am and he was gone. He was still warm, his cheeks were still pink. I went over that morning hundreds and thousands of times…. I still miss him every day & it was 4 years ago. It’s categorized as SIDS but I think his airways may have been oddly shaped and caused sleep apnea. I have unusually shaped airways & my brother does too. We still don’t know if it was neurological or what. I have 1 regret & that was not donating his organs. I was just too traumatized to make that choice as a first time mom and I wanted to bury him intact. The way he came to me but I wished I had donated… 😢.
@mbbeautea6986 I am sorry for your loss. What a terrible thing to have happen! I pray you are able to have another child if that's your desire. I also pray for your healing. 💙🙏😢
Hugs and Prayers Mama. That my dear, is remorse. No one can ask a Mom in your place to consume any more guilt, and regret is filled with so much guilt. Remorse is knowing you'd do it differently, and accepting the reasons you just couldn't at the time. Much Love to you and your family ❤️🙏
I know 😂😂😂 She probably struggled with finding a description without swearing 🤬 And thought of Gollum when she saw the horrific smile. Almost choked on drink though first hearing it on Spotify since it is accidentally hilarious how it just comes out of her mouth
People underestimate the damage babysitters can do. My mom’s an immigrant and had a lot of immigrant babysitters take care of us as kids. She tried her best, but some of them just… were not great, to the point that my mom suspects one abused my brother because of how strange she acted. For me, we had some babysitters who used to force feed us until on the verge of vomiting. There was one time where they literally held my hair back and yanked my head until I was staring up at the ceiling and began tipping a bowl of soup into my mouth until I vomited everywhere. Bad babysitter’s are absolutely no joke, and can leave lasting trauma on the children in their care.
Wow, that’s horrible. Out of genuine curiosity, as you mentioned all feeding-related incidents, do you think that those are outdated cultural differences in parenting? It’s things like this that make it necessary for us next generation to break the cycle of violence (of course, in this case, I’m not referring to you, I am referring to your caregiver’s children who, presumably experienced a fair amount of trauma). But, in any case, I’m sorry for what you and your brother went through.
@@jennifergraceh Oh yes, there’s definitely a strong cultural element to it all. In addition to the lack of mental health awareness in my mom’s home country (it’s seriously abysmal, especially for a place torn apart by a traumatic civil war), force feeding is considered very culturally normal, to the point that my speaking out about it would’ve likely been perceived as dramatic, whiny, or unruly to anyone who wasn’t my parents. I never told them because I heavily internalized the belief that I was just a whiny and emotional kid who deserved it (which tbf, I threw many a dramatic tantrum in my childhood). I’ve heard much worse from older family members who had such abuse inflicted on them in the name of religion or family hierarchy; one of my aunts was forced to kneel in rice until her knees bled and the rice melded to her skin. It really blurred the lines between abuse and familial care, and left my extended family vulnerable to all sorts of inappropriate behavior as children. For me it was a bit different, because I had very “assimilated” and progressive parents (in some ways) who acknowledged the trauma of their upbringing and tried very hard to combat it, but were surrounded by their traditional cultures. So it was confusing to me, to be completely independent and protected/sheltered/loved by my parents while being casually hit, admonished, and berated for not being a proper kid in all other aspects of my early childhood. We did end up moving later on as my mom realized how taxing everything was on our whole family (her most of all), but by then significant damage was done. I’m sure my brother has had many terrible things happen to happen to him when he was young that I know nothing about, just like it is with me.
I've had babysitters make me eat though I was full. And not give me a drink until I was done eating and the food was too dry to swallow. I don't think it was malicious. I think they just thought I was like kids that only wanted snacks. And only wanted to drink juice or soda and would get full off of that instead of food. But I was never that child.
@apocalypseready6256 I appreciate you addressing the fact that cultural biases can be detrimental. My mother is a NICU nurse and had combatted ignorance amongst immigrant populations all her career. Society is so afraid of offending now that they are ignoring the fact that some cultures really do believe harmful or even evil practices to be completely normal. For example, my mother has had immigrant mothers and grandmothers say they need to push the baby’s soft spot out, which is deadly, or that my mother should ignore the female twin because only her brother matters. Also, she has to convince them that babies overheat, too, and if you’re hot in a short sleeved shirt then the baby doesn’t need multiple layers and blankets. It can be incredibly hard to combat the mindset that believes village knowledge is always right. If that’s what you genuinely believe, why legally or illegally enter another country and use their healthcare system? Stay in your village if it’s so superior. Mind you, my mother has also had to turn parents over to CPS because they were selling their babies, it’s terrifying what evil people are capable of against such vulnerable babies.
@@Improv16you still didn’t deserve it & neither does a picky kid. No child deserves to be treated that way - adults have got to do better in regulating their own emotions so a child acting like a child, doesn’t affect the way we parent.
It's one of my favorite things about the channel. It kinda makes it feel like we're all there too, listening to the story, as he's reacting with the same things we're thinking.
Yeah, they remind me of brat kids throwing tantrums when someone's turn is to play the toy they don't want to let it go. These brats would typically push, hit, and scream at the other kids. These guys are just toddlers who happened to have the strength of an adult and don't have the emotional maturity to hold back let alone not even do it in the first place. What a match made in hell.
Methamphetamine is a seriously fucked up drug, it absolutely damages your brain, your skin and teeth/hair. Their behavior reminds me of meth addicts I've seen around my city, one guy threw a huge fit and threatened me when I couldn't offer him change, (didn't have any, I was polite). Absolutely abominable that this woman still had access to kids, and has a new baby is is pregnant again... Poor baby Benson... 😢
This is why we have full parental leave for both parents 480 days minimum. Children should be able to talk before they’re left with strangers. *Educated strangers, never alone with children.*
Here's your autopsy in lay speak. This child died due to MANY different traumas inflicted upon his body. 1. Subdural. The area on the head between the scalp and the skull contains large vessels that rupture due to pulling of hair or other means of tugging and the scalp to separate the scalp from the skull. Blood pools within that area forming liquid filled movable spots of injury. 2. Subarachnoid area is where CSF (cerebral (brain & spinal fluid) collect into cisterns ,...pockets of CSF that accumulate about the skull. (CSF leak from the brain or spinal column causes Intense IMMEDIATE migraine status headache pain!) 3. Focal lesions are scrapes and scratches which happens to be about this baby's nose and chin. ALL suggest separate injuries and incidents of likely 2 different peoples hands on abuse. He's too small to crawl away and get scratched. I've numbered these to show that each number represents a separate point of injury. None of these are consistent with ONE injury. 4. A broken tail bone. (The boney protuberance you can feel at the top of your butt crack.) AND damage to the anterior (FRONTAL) area of the pelvis. (This one has me thinking OMG? HOW the HELL!!??????? 5. Torsion....his ankle was broken by TWISTING the lower leg. (Tibia.) This baby was beaten over a period of time, in MULTIPLE, non-fatal injuries. Non fatal but MERCILESSLY PAINFUL!¡!! Meaning this child suffered until the brain bleed (#1) got to the point that he lost consciousness. It was NOT quick! Not by ANY means. Unless he was picked up by his lower leg and spun against the wall or floor. God I REALLY hope his family doesn't read this but I want your subs to TRULY understand how egregiously untrue that "IM NOT A MONSTER" really is. And good on you with the body language! 👏 You have a natural eye imho. She has all the hallmarks of a true sociopath and sadist. She gets off inflicting pain (sadist) and has ZERO empathy or ability to care that someone else is hurting.(Sociopath) While most people tend to think psychopaths are worse than sociopaths; that's not always true. Yes, socios lack empathy. But they often act in frustration or passion and later regret their actions. Psychos just DGAF! They always lack remorse. But the most dangerous trait is an IMPULSIVE offender. They are erratic and unpredictable. They act without reason or cause. And..... that's the SOCIOPATH. Psychopaths tend to be more organized. They are manipulative and calculated. They're considered "worse" because they're the type to cause massive damage and are oftentimes motivated by hate & revenge. They plot and plan. Both are true cowards but sociopaths are the ones who act out on any one or animals weaker than them. But yes; psychopaths usually begin as sociopaths but IN NO WAY are the sociopaths less dangerous than true psychopaths. The question is ..are they born that way? Well, THATS a question only only you can answer because it goes back to the question of; "can a child be born evil." Some think NO; mainly for religious reasons. What do YOU think? If you're here, thanks for reading. 😊 Have a great day and remember....make good choices. Even the little ones matter ,..💯😁❣️
Thank you, yes, with #4 I also thought, _"HOW THE HELL!?!?!?"_ I used to work in post-disaster recovery (like after 9/11) so I learned about many of these autopsy terms almost through psychological osmosis, from hearing medical people discussing COD; but _THANK YOU SO MUCH_ for explaining the difference between psychopaths and sociopaths! I'm screenshooting this to keep, it's a clear and succinct explanation. I have an opinion on whether anyone is born evil: I was born in a hellhole neighborhood and I suffered some terrible s***** abuse when I was a little girl by guys who I now think were sociopaths; and I grew up to be fiercely protective of children and animals. However, some kids who were abused like I was, end up abusing other kids. So I think sociopathy/psychopathy are like this: Nature loads the gun, Nurture pulls the trigger. I think if some people grew up in better neighborhoods, and got counseling early in childhood, they could've been less violent teenagers. But people like me grow up in the same environment and we would NEVER hurt anyone weaker than us. There was some observational study on babies in hospital nurseries -- how most babies cry whenever other babies cry, which could possibley be nascent empathy; those babies were friendlier as toddlers. Other babies coo and smile whenever they heard the other babies crying; and as toddlers they were more antisocial and picked on other toddlers. edit: spelling mistake
Interesting that you said people tend to think babies are not born evil due to religious reasons. I would have thought it was the opposite, like born with evil possibilities but depends on what is allowed to flourish.
@@michelevazquez4429 What I meant was those who believe their God creates no mistakes. Personally I find it oxymoronic when there are "medical mistakes" & "chemical/chromosomal mistakes" etc as terminology but again .,.I question NO ONES religious beliefs which is why I didn't go more into that.
She wasn't even sleeping when the cops showed up at the hotel. When the female officer is interviewing her outside the room, her eyes are wide open! She doesn't appear like she was sleeping...likely waiting for the 5-0's to pound on the door. Especially spending the night in a hotel the very night she gave a deceased infant back to it's mother, after baby sitting for her...
Actually, you still shouldn't "judge a book by its cover," and if you aren't able to understand why, you are ignorant beyond measure. But hey, you do you.
@@purplerain2314I've done a lot of drugs, my dude, and I don't grin like a Jack-O-Lantern when I hear someone has died. There's something off with this "lady"! It's like she's pure evil.
People often smile when they lie when they believe their lie is being bought. It’s a sort of pride or self satisfaction for fooling people. I believe that is why she keeps smiling. It’s such an unsettling smile given the conversation during it.
ive never seen a person act so genuinely inhuman before. ive seen interviews with serial killers that unsettled me less. its like she forgot how emotions worked. this GROWN WOMAN acts like a 5 year old girl who just learned how to lie lying about spilling milk when she's being accused of MURDERING a BABY.
That's what i was thinking! And Adam acts like a toddler especially when he is throwing those tantrums, I can see why they can't be around any kids especially their own
This is so sickening. I may not like kids, but I would NEVER in a million years hurt them in any way. No child deserves that, for any reason. When I would babysit my cousins, I was watching them always, making sure they weren't getting hurt. If they got hurt, I called my aunt and uncle to let them know. I cannot even begin to imagine the pain of losing a child but I hope that monster rots in prison
You know,when my mom told me that my dad were exageratedly overprotective towards me and my brother when we were babies i used to agree with her that he was exagerated for needing to know every single thing before letting someone else take care of us...now im not anymore
Well you're most protective parent is not exaggerating. Because yes you have to be careful with your children There's weirdos everywhere and they like to work with children to harm them And it's only getting worse
Exactly my daughter father is the same way and people try to tell me he is controlling and over protective and I tell them I’d rather he actually cared and be over protective than neglectful he loves our daughter she is his first and only child plus he grew up being abused and neglected so of course he wants to be the total opposite. She doesn’t go anywhere unless he ask me if I truly trust our daughter with them and he knows I don’t trust no one but maybe 1 or 2 people in my family
The way she switches from a ‘distraught’ face to one that looks like an accused one is absolutely mortifying. My heart goes out to the family and mother. Thank you so much for sharing this story with everyone! ❤️
Yeah. It reminds me of when my mom heard that my Dad had passed away on his way to work. There’s a certain deep, guttural scream that humans do when they come to the sudden realization it’s over. When their worst nightmare has come to reality. Hearing her scream gave me an immediate flashback to that moment.
The couples’ disgusting behavior at being questioned in the hotel room, acting like this is such a nuisance for them, straight up not complying, Adam being so aggressively rude, knowing what they did while so many POC are brutalized by the police for literally breathing (thinking of Sonya Massey rn) genuinely made me pause the video to swallow back my disgust and anger. Why do the worst people always seem to get away until the worst damage is done?
literally! Also not to be that person but if these were black people acting this hostile and disrespectful towards police they'd be treated far worse. the police were nice to them
I really hope Stephanie covers Sonya Massey. Extremely devastating, and it's insane how Adam and Marissa were able to act like this without getting shot. Any POC would've had a bullet in their head after the first "Why are you guys here"
@@senaaksoy1708There are tons of videos all over UA-cam of bl@ck people acting horrible to police officers and not being treated badly, let alone shot. There are also tons of videos of wh1te people on UA-cam being treated shitty by police as well. Wh1te people have been killed by police as well, it’s just never covered like it is when it’s a bl@ck person. My point is this doesn’t have shit to do with race.
It’s disgusting to use this awful crime as fodder for your race card. This has nothing to do with race. Many bl@ck people are let off the hook to go on to do horrid things as well.
I absolutely love how you act out the accused in her idiotic baby killer voice! Brilliant! Makes you stand out from all other true crime channels. You are my new favorite! 🤩
There’s this thing called Duper delight. It’s when people will be excited or happy because they did/ got away with something. They are duping you and they are delighted. That’s when you’ll get really inappropriate smiles or laughter. Like telling your mom a lie and when she makes you look at her, you can’t help but crack a smile. That’s what I’m getting from that smile when she’s being questioned in the hotel. She told a lie and couldn’t help but crack a smile. She then has to try and play it off.
That’s how it looked to me. A very gleeful smile and given the context of the situation, completely inappropriate Even without knowing any of the case details, seeing a person who takes care of children for a living smile like that after being told one of the children under their care is deceased…that’s a very big red flag. A red parachute, even
That's one thing but as someone who smiles inappropriately sometimes it is because I have social anxiety and am very nervous and have been programmed to smile and seem warm to be "polite" (excessive smiling is a part of American culture that is not expected or normal in other places, but in America if you look serious and don't smile people think you are angry, mean, and have an attitude problem even if you simply are neutral or just not smiling all the time for some other reason. I don't think people in the US have a lot of self-awareness about how this is a part of your culture). Because I have been criticized so much for not smiling enough I tend to automatically overcorrect when I talk to authority figures by smiling because it is the programming of how to seem polite and socially acceptable and not like I am angry or have a problem with them so it leads to me smiling even in situations where it is actually inappropriate, although I never murdered anyone and don't maliciously lie ever. It is just a nervous reaction similar to how some people laugh out of nervousness and not knowing how to respond. My point is that it may be something like that in some cases where they are trying hard to seem normal in a situation where they don't know how to act like an innocent person so they default to smiling to seem compliant with police and like a "nice person", and not about "duper's delight" which is sadistic glee from telling a lie and getting away with it.
My mom has that. I saw it slip through One Time and I was horrified. I spent days replaying the whole situation in my head. My mom is one of those rare dark triad personality ppl whos never ended up in prison bc she keeps it psychological and gets others to do her dirty work when it comes to physical abuse. My mom terrifies me. The only thing that scares me More is wondering if im like her and just dont see it.
My red flag was that an 11 week old newborn was in his carry-on car seat for more than 20 minutes including his snowsuit. Big no no when it comes to baby safety.
@@DoorsToHideBehind156 Babies shouldn't be in their car seats that long because they need to get out and stretch to help their body development and there's also a risk of positional asphyxiation. You're also not supposed to put children in their car seats in bulky clothes like snowsuits because the snowsuit/jacket can collapse enough from the impact of the car for the child to fall out of the seat. That and those snowsuits would be super warm in the car and cause the baby to overheat if the car is heated.
Positional asphyxiation in car seats isn't exactly uncommon, especially when the baby is so young. There are warnings all over car seats saying not to let your child sleep in them. @@DoorsToHideBehind156
Also, no hate or blame at all for the momma for his death, but you just pick up your sleeping 11 week old baby from someone and don't check on him or look closely? I don't know, the whole situation just seems a bit neglectful from everyone, and maybe they don't know better but there are certainly red flags all around. Leaving a small baby with someone who just appears like an addict (even if you didn't know she already lost her kids) is something most people wouldn't do, but then having the baby in the car seat for too long in bulky clothing, not once checking closely on him so by the time you notice he has tragically passed, it's already been HOURS?? The whole situation is just horrifying 😢
And I don’t want to hear anything about it “well she should be watching her own child” if a mother is working and have no other choice and she trust someone who supposedly to love children smh that woman (if I can call that animal that)
@@eveelee4152 the woman is clearly a drug addict. You can't tell me there weren't other options. No family or friends or church? My church has a whole program that offers free, certified, and vetted babysitters for struggling families. She could have found somebody trustworthy if she'd looked.
In my country, this nanny used to stab babies in the head with a long needle, because she didn’t want to be a maid and a nanny, and instead of telling the family, she killed 3 of their babies, and they thought it was SIDS.
I've seen this story b4. She has children of her own, but got taken away from social services. Having your own kids + killing others make no sense at all. The fact that she was smiling and went to McDonalds as if nothing happens gives it all away. I feel sorry for the mum! R.I.P little one🕊💗
As a person who smiles when they get caught into a lie, I can tell the way she's zoning out, trying to find the best way to lie it out but she can't stop smiling. This crime is something she probably won't regret.
This in the whole body language reading science (fbi) is called a "Duper's Delight" smile. But this woman looks like being high af and a Duper's Delight is converging bizarrely...
YES!! when I was younger, my mom would ask me something and while she was scolding me i'd stare off into space thinking up a lie convincing enough. in my case, I look up or behind whoevers talking to me.
Honestly her face is so unsettling and scary. She doesn’t look human. I can’t imagine the pain and heartbreak the parents must be going through. Pure evil.
A lot of people don't have a choice, people can get pregnant unexpectedly and are in a position where they can't afford to not work. Also, cost isn't indicative of quality.
I know I can't imagine the pain 💔 God bless her and I hope eventually she can heal and I hope she doesn't blame herself because I'm sure there are assholes out there that are trying to blame her in part. Omg it's just so devastating 😢
Not knowing CPR and taking care of children is insane; the smirking is beyond disturbing and she is definitely on drugs… her mannerisms and responses.. dear god my heart goes out to the family of the child.
Not that insane the majority of mothers don't know CPR and they watch their kids daily. Should CPR training be mandatory at every school to mitigate this issue at least a little and save lives probably. However until that becomes reality you probably couldn't let almost anyone in your family watch your kids.
They kinda not. maybe before the age of 3, afterb that it's usually bullying. killing and destroying ants, rippiing off wing from butterflies e,t,c, They stop doing all of that only if their caregiver teaches them not to, cos children are curious but not yet empathetic, so they are not kind
@@LSG101097it’s not that they aren’t emphatic in fact they can be it’s just that they don’t know what’s truly right and wrong at that age because they are children
@@LSG101097- Are you talking about serial killers in the making or about people who seek out activities to be near to kids for evil purposes?! Because that's what the oc is texting about.
PSA: Never leave a sleeping baby in a car seat! And no one should watch your child without knowing CPR. This is why letting your neighbors friends and family babysit can be dangerous.
Keep spreading this knowledge far and wide. It could save someone's baby. I want to add, you never put a baby or small child into a car seat with their snowsuit or jacket on. Cover them with a blanket (that can't cover their nose or mouth and isn't bulky obviously).
Exactly the reason why you should set up a home security system with cameras and invite babysitters to your home instead of dropping them off. They will never know what happened. That's so tragic..
exactly?? i have multiple siblings and 40+ little cousins, those types of babies can barely even MOVE. My newest baby brother didnt even start really PLAYING playing till he was about 9-10 months because only then he could crawl. its so fucking sickening.
Probably one of the most disturbing criminals I've seen in a while. The way Marissa tries to justify herself, "apologizing" to try to reach a compromise that would benefit her, is like she's treating this case like a high school friend problem. You killed INFANTS. She treats this as a forgivable crime. Like she truly doesn't understand what's the big deal...
Thank you for covering this case. This happened in my home town, to people who I grew up with; my best friend’s nephew. Forever may you rest in paradise Benson Xiong
Hey A tragic incident has come to light in Pakistan involving a 20-year-old woman who was 5 months pregnant and already a mother of 3 . Her husband allegedly r*ped and brutally murdered her after she refused to sell the family property at his insistence. The brutality of the crime is shocking: he cut her tongue, broke her teeth, and then hanged her. I know your team can do more research and educate the whole world.
That's truly horrifying and I bet he's not getting much time in jail is he . Because in far too many Middle Eastern countries they do not care about abuse of women. This is sick....
@@Angelface11 Pakistan isn't a middle eastern countries. It's a south asian one, and the lack of care for the abuse of women occurs through all countries. In fact, just in the U.K, the rate of abuse towards women increase depends on whether the football team looses or doesn't loose.
as soon as I heard "baby had scull AND ankle fructures", I immediately thought she smacked him on the wall by holding by his ankle or threw him holding by his ankle.. she is evil..
That’s is actually horrific of a babysitter to do to a poor child who did nothing to you. As a babysitter I could never imagine in my life harming a child, what she did to those poor kids are unforgivable and I hope she pays the price.
The worst part is she gave that baby back to the mom for her to discover it herself. For her to try cpr on him knowing he's already gone. I have no words.
You articulated exactly why this is so horrifying to me. It's so horrible it's making me physically sick and I'm shivering. My husband found my sister in law dead and 911 kept trying to make me do CPR. She was in rigor mortis, she was gone. I told them I would not, they kept insisting. It was so upsetting. I can't imagine going through this with my child.
@@Kathleen-vl5ws i'm so sorry that happened to you. i hope you and your husband are not lost to grief, but get to heal from that trauma. you are strong.
I just had to fight for a DNR for my 97-year-old grandmother.
Insanity!
@@Stacey0909 Wait, you want your grandmother to go painlessly and on her terms? Okay, I can understand.
@@Kathleen-vl5wsThat's awful 😢 I wish 911 operators would be trained to understand that rigor mortis isn't difficult to recognize, even for people who haven't seen it before.
I know some people can be resuscitated directly after death (I was, when I was 18 and had a severe illness) but no one can be resuscitated when they're in rigor mortis, and it's traumatizing for that person's family.
i dont understand why her baby daddy wasnt arrested too, he was present during all 3 events, so he definitely knew what she did. hes just as guilty
Agreed!
He wasn't necessarily there every time the horrible events occurred. He may have been technically home but that doesn't mean he was inside or in the same room as her while she was doing the abuse. He might actually believe her lies and be blinded by love. I've known guys like that who didn't see the direct abusive actions, so they had a hard time believing it, especially because they want to believe the woman they love so much, is innocent of such a heinous crime. Considering there's absolutely no evidence whatsoever against him, it's completely possible. Especially since she didn't even try to throw him under the bus to save herself.
He was out hunting when baby Benson was murdered and he wasn't there when the 11 month old supposedly fell off the couch..I don't think he's completely innocent tho because he knows what she is capable of and still let her babysit
No you have to have solid evidence that he was present otherwise there is no case there.
@@natebuckley6598so he was out killing other animals while she was killing a baby. This couple is perfect for each other.
Someone who's children were taken away SHOULD NOT be able to babysit. It's ridiculous that she managed to do that!
And to just ALWAYS have a new baby too!! Ugh. 💯
It’s ridiculous the mom left her newborn alone with her. Fckin wild
But she wasn’t allowed to babysit, she just done it anyway.
She should have been remanded until her sentencing so this didn’t happen.
You don’t hand a 11 week old baby, to some meth out bitch!!! The baby is supposed to stay with you for a year! ……… I don’t get people
@@bhad104i doubt the mum knew her history
The fact that this channel had someone asking questions off camera is really creative and unique and it really does enrich the story too. It’s like we are asking the questions. It makes you feel so engaged.
Yeah her husband asks all the questions that I make in my head and instead of going back a few seconds back in the video to understand it better, she just answers him
I find it extremely annoying and weird to be honest, to the point that i cant watch another 50 minutes of it and had to stop.
@@djtonyleeI don't enjoy it either. I'm listening and paying attention but he doesn't seem to be sometimes.
@@VexindraI personally find it really cute how he asks questions to understand better and be more engaged, and the way she reacts to them is really healthy as well to help him understand, it’s just sparking curiosity and wanting to learn more. I could tell they both really love each other ❤
@@RosieDecaro Absolutely, they are very sweet to each other. It just takes me out of the moment when he is describing or repeating something she just explained. Almost like an interruption. Regardless I'm loving this channel.
This is why we preschool and daycare teacher cannot allow a sleeping child in. We have to wake them up before the parents can leave
I actually never knew that was a rule that is a good rule in place but sad it has to be implemented because people are evil
Omg I remember a case where a mother brought her de@d child to a daycare, the workers wanted to wake him up but she insisted he had a rough sleep so they didn’t wake him and the mother left. They left him in a quiet room and when they went to check on him they realised he was gone. Luckily they found the mother at her job
That makes sense
Right! Or at least check that the child is breathing
@@RO-B96 I remember that case. Didn't the baby die of SIDS and the mother was having some kind of break from reality? Or this has probably happened more than once sadly.
That smile is going to haunt me in my nightmares. The way she’s smiling while pretending to cry. It’s so uncanny valley, looks almost not human
Omg uncanny valley is the only way to describe her smile. It’s so scary like she was possessed and the demon kept trying to show itself
You could think of Steph calling her Gollum from Lord Of The Rings 🤣😂 If it helps since Gollum is relatively harmless as well as it being unexpected in a good way. It is creepy though 😥
I have a feeling she's either possessed or not quite a human?.. 😦
I smile when I’m caught haha can’t help it. I’m a diagnosed aspd so maybe she has a similar thing when the other person knows your motives and despite trying to deceive them it doesn’t work it you create this huge smile because you realize how detached from this scenario you are. You are faking these emotions like a clown in front of people you don’t care about to evoke what you want and a failure of this action is super funny (at least in my head) so I smile 😃
I do have to say that smiling and or laughing in stressful, or scary situations is 100% normal, just like crying, it’s a reaction to adrenaline, so please don’t judge people for it; however, I will agree that because of who she is and what she has done, it definitely makes her unsettling and definitely freaks me out
There is NO way she’s 28. She looks 40 at the VERY LEAST. wtf?! This is why I allow NO ONE to watch my girls. I trust absolutely no one with my babies 🥺
Cant even trust daycares or anything anymore either
Years of drug abuse will do that to a person
Meth is one hell of a drug guys. Not even once.
I was thinking the same thing. She looks well into her 40's. But rough living 40's. Definitely meth.
@@mirosawwojewodzki5360hey now! I work in daycare as an infant teacher. Daycares get a bad reputation because the news only reports bad things that happen in some daycares. That doesn't mean they are all bad. I have been at the daycare where I work as an infant teacher for 7 years. I have never, not once, had a parent complain about me or have any problems with me as their baby's caregiver at all! I am a mother of 5 and grandmother of 3 myself. I would never harm a child! It would be impossible for any of the teachers in any of the classrooms to hurt a child at the daycare where I work because every classroom has a camera in it plus there are 2 cameras in the hallway and cameras outside on the four playgrounds we have. There is a large TV monitor mounted on the wall in the office and the director and owner can see the video feed from every camera at all times. If there is ever a concern about anything from a parent or staff member, the director and owner can go back and watch the video footage to see exactly what happened. They have only had to do that once when a teacher accused the cook of smacking a child on the mouth. This teacher texted the child's mother and told her this and also reported it to state. The mother came in and she and the director went back and watched the video footage from the time that this incident allegedly occurred. The mother walked out of the office after stating that she saw the cook do no such thing to her child. The state consultant that came to investigate the incident was also shown the video footage and came to the same conclusion. She closed the investigation and reported that the claim was unsubstantiated. The employee that made the false accusations had it out for the cook for a reason she had made up in her own mind!
She’s thrill killer. She would have been a serial killer if she didn’t get caught
Yup
@@andrealoden1303 I’m glad you agree
Adam needs to be arrested too, he 100% knew what was happening and actively attempted to obscure the truth for her
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He also seems very aggressive. I've met dudes like him who "discipline" their kids by spanking them really hard. Glad I've called cps every time ✌
It's a tweeker smile, meth addicts lose their sense of proper emotions and adopt forcing awkward smiles in weird situations to fake innocence/concern
I absolutely agree w/ you. I was also thinking she was tweaking
@@starcherry6814 yeah it's disgusting have you ever noticed that all these worst cases unspeakable murder usually has meth involved, it's like people keep thinking it's something to play with and ignore the fact that it was the fuel that drove the Nazis to how sick and depraved they were
People also do this when crazy uncomfortable, nervous, or lying. Never done a single drug in my life and I have the same odd mannerism.
It's genuinely unconscious, and hard to stop. I've gotten yelled at a few times over it.
Yeah it’s crazy you’re the first person to mention this. She is clearly high as fuck and incapable of feeling anything. That’s why she’s so bad at faking it.
@@whatteamwildcats4033buddy it's definitely meth, check the eyes
A friend of mine is studying to become a pre-school/daycare teacher, and sadly one of the first things they taught her is that whenever you receive a kid that's asleep you have to either wake it up or check it's vitals before the parents can leave exactly due to this kind of case. The cruelty of some :(
Wow, yikes 😢
When I worked at my stepdaughters day care I worked in the baby baby room. One morning one of my favorite girls came in to school. She had DARK purple bruises on her neck. Mom said it happened at aunts house and that she fell. The placing of that bruise was NOT a fall. That child was GRABBED by the neck. People are HORRIBLE towards children these days and i just cannot stand the thought of touching any baby in any kind of violent manner EVER
@@hayleyelizabeth7895 actually its not just today. Crime statistics have fallen in recent years. Many horrible things done to kids were often hidden or just never revealed to the world, that's why people thought it was safer... Sadly it was never safe.
@@winglessbat I mean yeah I knew it happened and it wasn’t reported as often but i didn’t know the crime rate fell that’s fantastic!!
@@hayleyelizabeth7895 that's really awful! Were you able to document it or what was your train of thoughts after seeing that? Our choices and empathy matter, but it also sucks when you see something like that irl but you can't protect the child all on your own.
Daycare needs to be more affordable so people dont have to find sketchy babysitters smh
My daycare lady beat me lmao!
This shit happens in daycares too homie. Happens in hospitals, happens in schools, happens in churches, happens in foster care, happens in one's own house, etc... it's sad but it's everywhere.
Remember when Americans could live off one income and raise their own kids
@@politicallyincorrectcow8514 as someone who was raised by a single mother of 4; no, no I do not. I'll be 42 this year and my mom struggled but she never gave up. She may not have been able to give us the things we wanted but she made damn sure we had what we needed. But under this current administration it's even harder on her than it was before and the messed up thing is she doesn't have to support anyone but herself now. We need Republicans in the high positions as it's the only way to strengthen our economy. I get the Dems want equality for everyone but I'd rather have a strong economy than having my weird ass ideas protected. And these people fighting to push their agendas and beliefs down everyone's throats cause they want attention? Well if everyone converts to your ideas it's not gonna be long before you're no longer unique or creative or anything special as everyone will be the same as you. Is that what they really want? I'm gonna start calling these "rights activists" me-me's cause that's all they are; a bunch of me ,me, me first attention seeking crybabies. None of them give a sh*t about equality. They only care about themselves and people with the same beliefs. They're quick to start a war with anyone that doesn't understand their lifestyles. They say they're for equality yet want everyone else to bow down before them. TF outta here with that bs. It'd be nice if everybody could get along and love each other, but as long as we have people putting their weird ass so-called rights before issues that effect everyone we shall never be able to get along. Everybody has rights, but I promise you that trying to force people to be ok with your radical ideas is not one of them. Making anyone who doesn't understand your way of thinking is also not one of them. It's bullying is what it is. Until three people can simultaneously look each other in the eye, we will never know world peace
@@Dragonsouls-gz9fq I'm sorry that happened to you:/
The audacity to go to mcdonalds knowing you're pretty much holding a dead baby is just disgusting.
not just audacity but plain crazy, knowing that the baby is dead/dying and even thinking about Mcdonalds is mind boggling crazy, pyhsco, and everything else. (comment made before listing to episode)
The baby was deceased at McDonald's. She knew it was. Her boyfriend didn't know. So vile!!!
what do you mean "pretty much"? she WAs holding a dead baby, its not disputable.
@@barbrothers2 sorry, I'm no professor to have such perfect grammar you know, my bad.
@@ChillkittzGT its not bad grammar just weird phrasing
okay but how did marissa have multiple boyfriends while looking like gollum 💀💀
Some guys will date anything 🤢🤮
it's not like she has a good personality either...💀
Why she gotta have my name!
Cause guys that she have been dating are probably of a "Low bar" themselves. Someone like her doesn't require any effort. That's just my opinion.
The same question that I got for my biological father. I mean I look like him and people do compliment me sometime but god how does he pulled 7 women into his life and have multiple kids that he don't even pay child support for.
But for real though. She doesn't even look that good or have good personality. I guess some people goes down bad with this case
Or maybe judge by how Adam acts, evil people stick together?
I'm a mom of 6..I had stared at my sleeping babies a million times making sure they were still breathing...I cannot imagine one time watching for their breath and not seeing it. Absolutely heartbreaking.
That lady is evil...
6 is a bit much..
@@ramen9141 that's all you have to say? who cares about that?
@@fieldmemory what's wrong with what I said?
@@ramen9141 you were being rude by judging the original commenter's life choices. yeah, *you* think 6 is too much, but they don't. as long as they're happy and the kids are safe, why do you care?
@@ghosty_whosty9986 well it is factually too much, it's disgusting, world is already overpopulated, plus I doubt they can afford to raise them properly when they're 6 in this economy unless they're filthy rich,
The way she just said "It was just one kid,like the other two were an accident too.its not fair."Absolutely set me on fire,like are you serious!?And smiling like she is innocent!(This is why i never trust anyone with my nieces or nephews!)
Exactly like the bb is an inanimate object or something . Serial ☠️type behavior.
If she isn't supposed to be around children legally, with the police knowing she was babysitting , why didn't they immediately arrest her and question her down at the station??
I'm not sure I can't find out this information It looks like she had a ton of charges on her record for drugs and even violence towards the police... I mean but if parents don't do a background check or don't even just look around which you can find a lot of this information on State Police websites for free... And simply by searching the person's name or address online... I have no idea why their parents or any parent will leave children in her care she does not behave mentally well.
But yeah I'm not sure why that was going on because I can't find information why she had her own children taken from her care either. She looks like she had charges and she looks like she had reports about harming other people's children but no official charges. Yet I'm not sure about the CPS case because I can't find that info.
@Katiecat7ate9, that's a very good question!!! They knew immediately that she was going against a court order (or whatever type of legal action that she was supposed to be under) so they SHOULD have, I would think 🤔
I had once a neighbor who had been convicted for rxpe and mvrder, people kind of knew he had been in trouble with the authorities but no one looked it up (and even now it takes a moment to find his conviction along with the details), but he was always a nice man who would help others in times of need, he'd always been nice and warm, a lot of families with kids would pop up around his house to greet him and whatnot.
It wasn't until he passed away that we found out about the truth because police officers went to clear the house and they told some people that they always knew and would check on him to make sure he was behaving well and all that
So yeah, I can understand parents not doing a whole background check on someone they know to be a good person
Though need a warrent for such thing. It happened so fast they needed more information before having probable cause
@@dawndoesartno they didn’t. she admitted to having the child in her care when she wasn’t supposed to be around children at all. they could’ve taken her in
"my phone is OFF"
"NO IT'S NOT, how do you think we found you?"
*that officer ate her UP* with that one line alone😭
I was looking for this comment, that officer was raw 😭 taking only prisoners
Ate her uppppppp
And the silence after she said it lmao
She was NOT having it.
"i didn't throw him" "that's an interesting statement... did you throw him?" detective lady ate tbh
her smile freaked me out. she doesn’t even look upset or worried, just plain evil. this is such an awful case, thanks for covering, hope people stay safe with their children and babysitters
Psychopaths nor Sociopaths can hide their true emotions, but they aren’t able to feel remorse/guilt. But she’s definitely a sociopath. she has a conscience, but she continues to deny her actions she knows they’re wrong and is probably justifying them in her head.
She looks like she is on drugs.
they way she kept zoning out while the cops were asking her questions it was like she was thinking of an excuse also very common people zone out like that when they are high im not saying she is but she looks like she is the way she kept zoning out it could be something else again not accusing this woman she was high just saying how it looked like
Her smile like actually scares me. Uncanny valley type.
Her smiled scared me so much. I have this habit of copying people’s facial expressions and without knowing did the same expression, like artists when drawing a character. It reminded me of whenever I read something funny. She is absolutely insane and should be punished. I hope the best for the family who dealt with what should have never happened. I hope that baby Benson finds peace in the afterlife.
This sounds morbid, but babies are not actually that fragile. They fall, roll off things, get dropped by tired parents, etc. and are generally fine. The amount of force you would need to FRACTURE THEIR SKULL is absolutely horrifying to think about.
After I had my baby, the way the nurses were handling him I believe it because of how they practically folded him in half
@@KoRn__RrAaattTbizTaMmNrRatTa But your baby is okay??
Babies are very flexible. Their skulls flex to be born so yea the force to actually fracture a babies skull is horrifying to think about.
To kill a baby is already evil but to give the baby’s body _back_ to the mom just so she can discover it for herself? Thats worse than pure evil. Words can’t describe how horrific that is.
I remember watching the interview on another channel and I was just shocked.
Her kids were taken away yet she could still babysit. How does that make sense.
She wasn’t allowed to be around children. Even her youngest wasn’t allowed to be around her so they left him with her husband but they went around it and you know people don’t really check up on things.
her children were taken after the first incident , then there was a second incident, then this was here third incident. why wasnt she already behind bars? if she would have been this poor baby would still be alive.
And continue to have babies?!? Why they didn't monitor her even long enough to know she was pregnant again? It seems like cps is off their game to allow that!
@@pennywagner1608I’m guessing they couldn’t prove the second one wasn’t an accident, and her children were taken away, maybe she did go to jail for the first incident.
@@Graycy808in all the cases I’ve watched, I think cps actually did their job once
I bet it was that people treated her nicer when she was pregnant and she liked that. She didn’t care about the kids, just about being pregnant and getting that positive attention.
You're probably right
Or she's like Diane Downs who said kids are so easy to replace, and getting pregnant is so easy. A disgusting way of looking at it but that's what psychopaths think because they don't have empathy and only think of themselves.
And don’t forget the welfare checks
Or she just couldn't be bothered to use birth control.
OMG I just realized, may be one reason why a lot of women say they love being pregnant. Crazy! I hated being pregnant, it was hard for me, I had twins, but the whole thing I wouldn’t want to do it ever again. And I had a very healthy pregnancy/childbirth.
That’s actually shocking imagine waiting 9 months to birth your beautiful baby boy just for some woman to kill him at 11 weeks and not even care???!
Yeah like that’s just messed up.
This is why I babysit for my sister at the drop of a hat cause there are way to many cases of babysitters doing stuff like this. I would rather go out of my way and drop all my plans to watch them than my niece and nephew be sent to an unfamiliar person to be cared for. You never know. Can't be too safe now days.
🥹 if only you were my sister
You are a wonderful sister and aunt! God bless you!
My kiddos go to daycare with working CCTV and where I live, govt funded. Without that, I wouldn't allow my kids to stay with anyone not close family or friend. America needs to catch up so desperate parents aren't forced to compromise
such a great person ❤❤💕💕
You’re an amazing auntie and those kids will love you for it
57:00 imagine being the woman who stopped to probably give Marisa praise for handling two babies, unaware that one of them is actually dead. How eerie.
Omg I was literally about to type this comment! Same thought… scary
She knew nothing and I hope she does not feel guilty.
@@aleebea Im not saying she should feel guilty or is in anyway responsible for anything that happened. I’m saying its eerie that she was just going about her day and unknowingly interacted with a killer.
@@simsveda I didn't read your comment as if you were blaming her, I completely agree with you.
Yeah, I and I noticed how the murdering b*tch kind of positioned her body in front of baby Benson’s car seat, like she didn’t want to the nice stranger to look too closely at him.
Sickening and so, SO sad 😞
the fact that she was suspected and accused of two incidents of injuring children before this and even got her parental rights taken away but wasnt in jail to begin with is ridiculous
and she did dr*gs too.
@@butterscreamsdrugs*
Chill out with this snowflake shit
And she was pregnant
"How do you think did we found you" She ate with that sentence.
ATE LEFT NO CRUMBS... she was PISSED at Gollum 😂
This is the type of vile crime that deserves highest punishment without a doubt
Well, in France, this kind of psycho will be endorsed with extreme privilege by the NFP
@@Nico745stop spreading propaganda my god..
Dude u r everywhere
Amen😢 God bless you in the name of Jesus Christ, who is the name above all names & the only way to Heaven❤
@@KarosheusIf they’re not forcing anyone or harming anyone in their beliefs, then it doesn’t really matter. shouldn’t bother you so much. there’s no such thing as a “no time” to talk about my father 😂
I can't believe she didn't go to jail for a child getting a scull fracture....
Democrats in the system. Nobody goes to jail anymore.
Yes how did she escape justice 😢😢😢
She did 53:58
I think this happened before she went to court
She really does look like Gollum.. I listened to this episode on Apple Podcast and couldn’t image what that description was. It was spot on!
Here smile reminds me of the joker or penny wise the clown.
You are so right!!!😂 I mean those pictures side by side were TOO identical!! Kinda creepy 🫣
that's a disservice to gollum! gollum is far more attractive and likeable than this wench
That’s offensive to gollum 😂
Please do not compare her to Gollum. Gollum is too precious.
This story is so sad. I felt that poor moms pain through the video. I love the way you both do your videos. I love how you have your husband ask questions throughout the video cause it's usually question viewers think
i couldn’t imagine opening up your baby’s carrier and seeing a DEAD AND COLD baby. it’s disgusting. god bless everyone who has to go through death of babies.
aye domino
@@huskyukishut up, you are so disrespectful
Yes God bless 🙏
@@Frogssavedme girl?? im just replying to this person since theyre a stay??? do we have to be sad ab everything?? im dont have to be crying at the comment section wake tf up
@@huskyukiyou dont need to be crying, you need to be mindful. This is a veryyy sensitive topic so you need to make sure that you nor others make insensitive comments. Im not saying you were insensitive or rude in any way, but plss be careful ☺️☺️
NO HATE BTW!! ❤️❤️
Calling her Golum was the most accurate depiction
Viscious. 😂
Time stamps?
Literally came here to say exactly this 💀
36:44 @@Lilo-g9s
@@Lilo-g9s 29:17
How infuriating and devastating it must be to find out your child's killer is smiling and laughing while being questioned about the murder, especially someone you trusted. I can't even imagine her pain.
She’s high as a kite. Every time her adrenaline spikes, she smiles because the high intensifies.
@@kaliwally4sorry explain? Like she’s high on some drugs? Sorry English is not my first language
@@kaliwally4Either that, or she’s reenacting the death and gets excited like those sicko serial killers
She could also have what is called "gallows laughter. " This comes from back when people were getting hanged (the gallows). They would get so overwhelmed. Psychologists even use this today when people are talking to them about intense emotions. I am NOT in any WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM trying to defend this horrible woman. I'm just giving a possible insight to her laughter besides her being only high. This story is devastating. I still to this day worry about losing my children and they are grown.
@@armylink8371
Yes, she is on methamphetamine....think cocaine times 20. People on meth tend to act VERY odd, paranoid and have the wrong emotional response to certain situations. You can also tell by her skin. Meth users typically will pick at their face, or anywhere on their body. (Source: grew up around meth users)
I wouldn’t trust that freak with a pet fish let alone a baby. She has the creepiest face I’ve ever seen I am so uneased by everything about her. Her hair, smile, sunken face, creepy house… I’ll be having nightmares. My deepest condolences for the loss of that sweet little baby
Her house looks like the live laugh love equivalent of that doll room in Incident in a Ghostland. It makes my head ache.
her boyfriend needs to be in prison too. i dont think she acted alone
his outburst and the demeaning way he talked about the kids are big red flags
I wouldn't be surprised if he was the one who caused the injuries on some of the children, and she's covering for him. He's got way too short of a fuse to be able to handle small children with patience. If hes acting that way to police, imagine how he would treat someone whos smaller than him and can't properly defend themselves.
She had a hickey on her neck that wasn't previously there when she dropped off the kids and she said Adam was hunting while she was watching the kids. Maybe he was there and they were having sex but the baby was being too fussy and crying so someone shut him up. Turned him on his belly to muffle his cries so they could continue fucking. Makes sense to me....
His conversation with the cops makes me think the opposite. Idk why, but the whole "She's supposed to give me the babies when she's angry" sounded convincing to me
Ya part of me thinks maybe at least some of the times she was covering for him. Either way she's sick and evil so is he
“As you can tell I’m pissed it’s 4 o’clock in the morning “
The cop: “yeah I’d like to be sleeping too “ 😎
Yeah like, oh poor wittle u, at least u were F sleeping.
Her house is eerie. Its SO cluttered but somehow SO organized at the same time. Its unsettling
💯 💯
I’ve seen and been in a hundred houses like that one
@@onaclover-coveredhill9618 I've never been in a single one that looked like that. But I'm rather sheltered.
@@onaclover-coveredhill9618were you creeper out?
The home looks like it houses someone mentally unwell.
When the mom started crying my heart shattered and I cried with her. I wish this loss on no one.
The way she constantly tries to be a "Mother" is honestly disgusting...the four kids that got away are truly blessed and I hope they never cross paths with them ever again
Yeah something definitely is wrong with the woman.
@@BrandyH-eh9up
Yes gollum should stop procreating.
I lost a child at 6 weeks old… I wanted to die. I wanted to die with him. I was so sad, I thought I would actually die of heartbreak. I had a healthy pregnancy, no complications. I was older than 35 but aside from that not high risk. He was in his crib, 1 fitted sheet, no pillow no stuffed animals, blankets nothing. Exactly how it’s supposed to be for their safety. Wh had checked & fed him at 3:30 am but we woke again at 5:30 am and he was gone. He was still warm, his cheeks were still pink. I went over that morning hundreds and thousands of times…. I still miss him every day & it was 4 years ago. It’s categorized as SIDS but I think his airways may have been oddly shaped and caused sleep apnea. I have unusually shaped airways & my brother does too. We still don’t know if it was neurological or what. I have 1 regret & that was not donating his organs. I was just too traumatized to make that choice as a first time mom and I wanted to bury him intact. The way he came to me but I wished I had donated… 😢.
@mbbeautea6986 I am sorry for your loss. What a terrible thing to have happen! I pray you are able to have another child if that's your desire. I also pray for your healing. 💙🙏😢
I'm so sorry for your loss. :(
I’m so sorry for your loss. Don’t worry, anybody could understand you wanting to bury your babies body whole 😢
Sorry for your loss
Hugs and Prayers Mama. That my dear, is remorse. No one can ask a Mom in your place to consume any more guilt, and regret is filled with so much guilt. Remorse is knowing you'd do it differently, and accepting the reasons you just couldn't at the time. Much Love to you and your family ❤️🙏
“Somehow he ends up shirtless” I’m sorry, this was so unexpected I snorted
WHAT
Ts had me rolling I hate when Stephanie is so nonchalantly funny 😂 makes me cry 😂😂
I did, too! 😂
You just have this impeccable way of putting yourself in the situation and narrating these stories. I can't get enough!!
“She looks like Gollum.”
Me listening to this at work: “oh my god Stephanie!!! 😂😂😂”
I know 😂😂😂 She probably struggled with finding a description without swearing 🤬 And thought of Gollum when she saw the horrific smile. Almost choked on drink though first hearing it on Spotify since it is accidentally hilarious how it just comes out of her mouth
The one says my precious,😂😭
shes not wrong though, girl did look like gollum
@@hwalleluja she did 😂
I'm ugly. I had to babysit my youngest brother and I made sure he was still alive
People underestimate the damage babysitters can do. My mom’s an immigrant and had a lot of immigrant babysitters take care of us as kids. She tried her best, but some of them just… were not great, to the point that my mom suspects one abused my brother because of how strange she acted. For me, we had some babysitters who used to force feed us until on the verge of vomiting. There was one time where they literally held my hair back and yanked my head until I was staring up at the ceiling and began tipping a bowl of soup into my mouth until I vomited everywhere. Bad babysitter’s are absolutely no joke, and can leave lasting trauma on the children in their care.
Wow, that’s horrible. Out of genuine curiosity, as you mentioned all feeding-related incidents, do you think that those are outdated cultural differences in parenting? It’s things like this that make it necessary for us next generation to break the cycle of violence (of course, in this case, I’m not referring to you, I am referring to your caregiver’s children who, presumably experienced a fair amount of trauma). But, in any case, I’m sorry for what you and your brother went through.
@@jennifergraceh
Oh yes, there’s definitely a strong cultural element to it all. In addition to the lack of mental health awareness in my mom’s home country (it’s seriously abysmal, especially for a place torn apart by a traumatic civil war), force feeding is considered very culturally normal, to the point that my speaking out about it would’ve likely been perceived as dramatic, whiny, or unruly to anyone who wasn’t my parents.
I never told them because I heavily internalized the belief that I was just a whiny and emotional kid who deserved it (which tbf, I threw many a dramatic tantrum in my childhood). I’ve heard much worse from older family members who had such abuse inflicted on them in the name of religion or family hierarchy; one of my aunts was forced to kneel in rice until her knees bled and the rice melded to her skin. It really blurred the lines between abuse and familial care, and left my extended family vulnerable to all sorts of inappropriate behavior as children.
For me it was a bit different, because I had very “assimilated” and progressive parents (in some ways) who acknowledged the trauma of their upbringing and tried very hard to combat it, but were surrounded by their traditional cultures. So it was confusing to me, to be completely independent and protected/sheltered/loved by my parents while being casually hit, admonished, and berated for not being a proper kid in all other aspects of my early childhood. We did end up moving later on as my mom realized how taxing everything was on our whole family (her most of all), but by then significant damage was done. I’m sure my brother has had many terrible things happen to happen to him when he was young that I know nothing about, just like it is with me.
I've had babysitters make me eat though I was full. And not give me a drink until I was done eating and the food was too dry to swallow. I don't think it was malicious. I think they just thought I was like kids that only wanted snacks. And only wanted to drink juice or soda and would get full off of that instead of food. But I was never that child.
@apocalypseready6256 I appreciate you addressing the fact that cultural biases can be detrimental. My mother is a NICU nurse and had combatted ignorance amongst immigrant populations all her career. Society is so afraid of offending now that they are ignoring the fact that some cultures really do believe harmful or even evil practices to be completely normal. For example, my mother has had immigrant mothers and grandmothers say they need to push the baby’s soft spot out, which is deadly, or that my mother should ignore the female twin because only her brother matters. Also, she has to convince them that babies overheat, too, and if you’re hot in a short sleeved shirt then the baby doesn’t need multiple layers and blankets. It can be incredibly hard to combat the mindset that believes village knowledge is always right. If that’s what you genuinely believe, why legally or illegally enter another country and use their healthcare system? Stay in your village if it’s so superior. Mind you, my mother has also had to turn parents over to CPS because they were selling their babies, it’s terrifying what evil people are capable of against such vulnerable babies.
@@Improv16you still didn’t deserve it & neither does a picky kid. No child deserves to be treated that way - adults have got to do better in regulating their own emotions so a child acting like a child, doesn’t affect the way we parent.
i love mr.mangobutt's clarifying questions, he's all of us just stunned and trying to take all of this in.
It's one of my favorite things about the channel. It kinda makes it feel like we're all there too, listening to the story, as he's reacting with the same things we're thinking.
yes. i always say hes asking all the questions im asking. such a plus to this channel. ❤
Honestly he startled me, I thought she was ripping a video and just dubbing over part 😂
@urgae9125 lol! ya when i first got into this podcast I would forget we was there behind the camera
He asks the most obvious and dumb questions…
Very odd for her not to ask what happened to Benson . Considering she open cases of prior child abuse. She knows the routine
she and the boyfriend both genuinely act like children. walking, immature, adult-children
Yeah, they remind me of brat kids throwing tantrums when someone's turn is to play the toy they don't want to let it go. These brats would typically push, hit, and scream at the other kids. These guys are just toddlers who happened to have the strength of an adult and don't have the emotional maturity to hold back let alone not even do it in the first place. What a match made in hell.
That's an insult to actual children.
Methamphetamine is a seriously fucked up drug, it absolutely damages your brain, your skin and teeth/hair.
Their behavior reminds me of meth addicts I've seen around my city, one guy threw a huge fit and threatened me when I couldn't offer him change, (didn't have any, I was polite).
Absolutely abominable that this woman still had access to kids, and has a new baby is is pregnant again...
Poor baby Benson... 😢
This is why we have full parental leave for both parents 480 days minimum. Children should be able to talk before they’re left with strangers. *Educated strangers, never alone with children.*
In US, and when it comes to postnatal Darwin Awards, WE'RE NUMBER ONE! :-/
@@LindaYarigerthis is so true 😓
We need to do better in the United States. Child care and long-term care are underpaid.
American could never 😕
America can barely give birthing mothers enough time off. if you're a dad you're piss out of luck over here for the most part.
Here's your autopsy in lay speak.
This child died due to MANY different traumas inflicted upon his body.
1. Subdural. The area on the head between the scalp and the skull contains large vessels that rupture due to pulling of hair or other means of tugging and the scalp to separate the scalp from the skull. Blood pools within that area forming liquid filled movable spots of injury.
2. Subarachnoid area is where CSF (cerebral (brain & spinal fluid) collect into cisterns ,...pockets of CSF that accumulate about the skull. (CSF leak from the brain or spinal column causes Intense IMMEDIATE migraine status headache pain!)
3. Focal lesions are scrapes and scratches which happens to be about this baby's nose and chin. ALL suggest separate injuries and incidents of likely 2 different peoples hands on abuse. He's too small to crawl away and get scratched. I've numbered these to show that each number represents a separate point of injury. None of these are consistent with ONE injury.
4. A broken tail bone. (The boney protuberance you can feel at the top of your butt crack.) AND damage to the anterior (FRONTAL) area of the pelvis. (This one has me thinking OMG? HOW the HELL!!???????
5. Torsion....his ankle was broken by TWISTING the lower leg. (Tibia.)
This baby was beaten over a period of time, in MULTIPLE, non-fatal injuries. Non fatal but MERCILESSLY PAINFUL!¡!! Meaning this child suffered until the brain bleed (#1) got to the point that he lost consciousness. It was NOT quick! Not by ANY means. Unless he was picked up by his lower leg and spun against the wall or floor. God I REALLY hope his family doesn't read this but I want your subs to TRULY understand how egregiously untrue that "IM NOT A MONSTER" really is.
And good on you with the body language! 👏 You have a natural eye imho.
She has all the hallmarks of a true sociopath and sadist. She gets off inflicting pain (sadist) and has ZERO empathy or ability to care that someone else is hurting.(Sociopath)
While most people tend to think psychopaths are worse than sociopaths; that's not always true. Yes, socios lack empathy. But they often act in frustration or passion and later regret their actions. Psychos just DGAF! They always lack remorse. But the most dangerous trait is an IMPULSIVE offender. They are erratic and unpredictable. They act without reason or cause. And..... that's the SOCIOPATH. Psychopaths tend to be more organized. They are manipulative and calculated. They're considered "worse" because they're the type to cause massive damage and are oftentimes motivated by hate & revenge. They plot and plan. Both are true cowards but sociopaths are the ones who act out on any one or animals weaker than them. But yes; psychopaths usually begin as sociopaths but IN NO WAY are the sociopaths less dangerous than true psychopaths. The question is ..are they born that way? Well, THATS a question only only you can answer because it goes back to the question of; "can a child be born evil." Some think NO; mainly for religious reasons.
What do YOU think?
If you're here, thanks for reading. 😊 Have a great day and remember....make good choices. Even the little ones matter ,..💯😁❣️
Interesting information to read. It truly shows how evil this demon really is. Just the look in her eyes and her creepy smile shows who she really is
Thank you, yes, with #4 I also thought, _"HOW THE HELL!?!?!?"_
I used to work in post-disaster recovery (like after 9/11) so I learned about many of these autopsy terms almost through psychological osmosis, from hearing medical people discussing COD; but _THANK YOU SO MUCH_ for explaining the difference between psychopaths and sociopaths!
I'm screenshooting this to keep, it's a clear and succinct explanation.
I have an opinion on whether anyone is born evil:
I was born in a hellhole neighborhood and I suffered some terrible s***** abuse when I was a little girl by guys who I now think were sociopaths; and I grew up to be fiercely protective of children and animals. However, some kids who were abused like I was, end up abusing other kids.
So I think sociopathy/psychopathy are like this: Nature loads the gun, Nurture pulls the trigger.
I think if some people grew up in better neighborhoods, and got counseling early in childhood, they could've been less violent teenagers. But people like me grow up in the same environment and we would NEVER hurt anyone weaker than us.
There was some observational study on babies in hospital nurseries -- how most babies cry whenever other babies cry, which could possibley be nascent empathy; those babies were friendlier as toddlers. Other babies coo and smile whenever they heard the other babies crying; and as toddlers they were more antisocial and picked on other toddlers.
edit: spelling mistake
Interesting that you said people tend to think babies are not born evil due to religious reasons. I would have thought it was the opposite, like born with evil possibilities but depends on what is allowed to flourish.
@@michelevazquez4429 What I meant was those who believe their God creates no mistakes. Personally I find it oxymoronic when there are "medical mistakes" & "chemical/chromosomal mistakes" etc as terminology but again .,.I question NO ONES religious beliefs which is why I didn't go more into that.
@@yvette_is_MamacadoI think is more believable that they think their God is perfect but people not because they were corrupted at some point.🤔
She wasn't even sleeping when the cops showed up at the hotel. When the female officer is interviewing her outside the room, her eyes are wide open! She doesn't appear like she was sleeping...likely waiting for the 5-0's to pound on the door. Especially spending the night in a hotel the very night she gave a deceased infant back to it's mother, after baby sitting for her...
And she got the text from the baby’s moms phone starting the baby was dead so she KNEW they were looking for her, she was 1000% going on the run.
You know, judging a book by it's cover isn't so bad - the cover exists for a reason
Nice name Bunnyrabb1t!
@@bunnyluver2176 🤣
This
Actually, you still shouldn't "judge a book by its cover," and if you aren't able to understand why, you are ignorant beyond measure. But hey, you do you.
More like "don't entirely judge a book by it's cover, but the cover can hint at simething, especially if you look behind."
Her pretending to cry looks like she's laughing. It's so creepy
Her life's usage of drugs has fried her brain.
@@purplerain2314I've done a lot of drugs, my dude, and I don't grin like a Jack-O-Lantern when I hear someone has died. There's something off with this "lady"! It's like she's pure evil.
@@Kathleen-vl5ws I agree
The worst part is the mom going “I can’t do this! I can’t do this!”. She knew her baby was gone, i really hope she’s okay now 💔
People often smile when they lie when they believe their lie is being bought. It’s a sort of pride or self satisfaction for fooling people. I believe that is why she keeps smiling. It’s such an unsettling smile given the conversation during it.
This woman gives me the complete creeps. The audacity to smile in cops’ faces while being confronted with child murder is beyond disgusting
IF THERE WERE STIFFER PENALTIES FOR THE INJURIES OF THE OTHER CHILDREN, THIS WOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED. SHE BETTER BE IN PRISON FOR THE REST OF HER LIFE
Exactly! Parents aren’t gonna pay for a background check most of the time, they shouldn’t have to worry someone like this is on the streets
ive never seen a person act so genuinely inhuman before. ive seen interviews with serial killers that unsettled me less. its like she forgot how emotions worked. this GROWN WOMAN acts like a 5 year old girl who just learned how to lie lying about spilling milk when she's being accused of MURDERING a BABY.
This is relatively normal for tweakers. Grew up around these people and everything about her is textbook tweaking
I was about to say!! She literally acts like she's 4 it's so stupid
That's what i was thinking! And Adam acts like a toddler especially when he is throwing those tantrums, I can see why they can't be around any kids especially their own
exactly!!
This is so sickening. I may not like kids, but I would NEVER in a million years hurt them in any way. No child deserves that, for any reason. When I would babysit my cousins, I was watching them always, making sure they weren't getting hurt. If they got hurt, I called my aunt and uncle to let them know. I cannot even begin to imagine the pain of losing a child but I hope that monster rots in prison
You know,when my mom told me that my dad were exageratedly overprotective towards me and my brother when we were babies i used to agree with her that he was exagerated for needing to know every single thing before letting someone else take care of us...now im not anymore
Well you're most protective parent is not exaggerating. Because yes you have to be careful with your children There's weirdos everywhere and they like to work with children to harm them And it's only getting worse
@@Angelface11 sometimes they are really too much... but its kinda funny the stories i hear of my dad Standing in the nursery window like a guard dog 😂
Exactly my daughter father is the same way and people try to tell me he is controlling and over protective and I tell them I’d rather he actually cared and be over protective than neglectful he loves our daughter she is his first and only child plus he grew up being abused and neglected so of course he wants to be the total opposite. She doesn’t go anywhere unless he ask me if I truly trust our daughter with them and he knows I don’t trust no one but maybe 1 or 2 people in my family
Your father really cared, you are blessed.
It's funny how perspectives change when you grow up and realize how evil people can be.
The way she switches from a ‘distraught’ face to one that looks like an accused one is absolutely mortifying. My heart goes out to the family and mother. Thank you so much for sharing this story with everyone! ❤️
The wail of that mother that lost her baby is heartbreaking :(
I know. The pit in my stomach hearing her 💔💔
Yeah. It reminds me of when my mom heard that my Dad had passed away on his way to work. There’s a certain deep, guttural scream that humans do when they come to the sudden realization it’s over. When their worst nightmare has come to reality. Hearing her scream gave me an immediate flashback to that moment.
@@EmilyElizabethxox I am so sorry, that must be a difficult memory to relive. 🩵
Something is off about the mom she didn’t notice her son was dead not moving and purple for hours ???
They said 20 minutes not hours@@nooraqueen2716
One of the things I love most of your show is the questions he asks and the back in forth. Because most the time I'm asking the same thing lol
The couples’ disgusting behavior at being questioned in the hotel room, acting like this is such a nuisance for them, straight up not complying, Adam being so aggressively rude, knowing what they did while so many POC are brutalized by the police for literally breathing (thinking of Sonya Massey rn) genuinely made me pause the video to swallow back my disgust and anger. Why do the worst people always seem to get away until the worst damage is done?
literally! Also not to be that person but if these were black people acting this hostile and disrespectful towards police they'd be treated far worse. the police were nice to them
I really hope Stephanie covers Sonya Massey. Extremely devastating, and it's insane how Adam and Marissa were able to act like this without getting shot. Any POC would've had a bullet in their head after the first "Why are you guys here"
@@gigirkive7625 I literally thought the same thing. Boils my blood because wtf is life 😭
@@senaaksoy1708There are tons of videos all over UA-cam of bl@ck people acting horrible to police officers and not being treated badly, let alone shot. There are also tons of videos of wh1te people on UA-cam being treated shitty by police as well. Wh1te people have been killed by police as well, it’s just never covered like it is when it’s a bl@ck person.
My point is this doesn’t have shit to do with race.
It’s disgusting to use this awful crime as fodder for your race card. This has nothing to do with race. Many bl@ck people are let off the hook to go on to do horrid things as well.
The way that when she was handed the handkerchief, she wiped her eyebrows instead of her eyes lol
what 😂
@@Shocked_Joe idk was some part in there lol
That’s a classic “hiding the face” move it also shows distress
50:53
“Eyebrows”
Why tf wasnt she in prison to begin with
White privilege
Because the "justice system" isn't just.
@@zxyatiywariii8exactly 💯💯💯
I absolutely love how you act out the accused in her idiotic baby killer voice! Brilliant! Makes you stand out from all other true crime channels. You are my new favorite! 🤩
There’s this thing called Duper delight. It’s when people will be excited or happy because they did/ got away with something. They are duping you and they are delighted. That’s when you’ll get really inappropriate smiles or laughter. Like telling your mom a lie and when she makes you look at her, you can’t help but crack a smile. That’s what I’m getting from that smile when she’s being questioned in the hotel. She told a lie and couldn’t help but crack a smile. She then has to try and play it off.
That’s how it looked to me. A very gleeful smile and given the context of the situation, completely inappropriate
Even without knowing any of the case details, seeing a person who takes care of children for a living smile like that after being told one of the children under their care is deceased…that’s a very big red flag. A red parachute, even
Wow, that’s a great observation and I think you’re spot on!
That's one thing but as someone who smiles inappropriately sometimes it is because I have social anxiety and am very nervous and have been programmed to smile and seem warm to be "polite" (excessive smiling is a part of American culture that is not expected or normal in other places, but in America if you look serious and don't smile people think you are angry, mean, and have an attitude problem even if you simply are neutral or just not smiling all the time for some other reason. I don't think people in the US have a lot of self-awareness about how this is a part of your culture). Because I have been criticized so much for not smiling enough I tend to automatically overcorrect when I talk to authority figures by smiling because it is the programming of how to seem polite and socially acceptable and not like I am angry or have a problem with them so it leads to me smiling even in situations where it is actually inappropriate, although I never murdered anyone and don't maliciously lie ever. It is just a nervous reaction similar to how some people laugh out of nervousness and not knowing how to respond. My point is that it may be something like that in some cases where they are trying hard to seem normal in a situation where they don't know how to act like an innocent person so they default to smiling to seem compliant with police and like a "nice person", and not about "duper's delight" which is sadistic glee from telling a lie and getting away with it.
My mom has that. I saw it slip through One Time and I was horrified. I spent days replaying the whole situation in my head. My mom is one of those rare dark triad personality ppl whos never ended up in prison bc she keeps it psychological and gets others to do her dirty work when it comes to physical abuse. My mom terrifies me. The only thing that scares me More is wondering if im like her and just dont see it.
@@mensesmimithats called fawning i do it too and its a very different kind of smile. The smile shes talking about is sinister and gives you chills❤
This type of thing scares me so much because it reminds me how someone you would least expect is capable of horrible things
Exactly
She looks insane. I wouldn't leave my kids with her.
Just off the pictures she is far from the person I'd least suspect of doing horrible things
Honestly, I'm not sure she would fall into the "person you'd least expect" category. Did you not see that smile?!
@@thia41012 you're sort of right.. I more meant I would least expect a babysitter, as they're supposed to keep your child safe.
My red flag was that an 11 week old newborn was in his carry-on car seat for more than 20 minutes including his snowsuit. Big no no when it comes to baby safety.
How is that a no no? I don't have kids so don't know why that'd be bad
@@DoorsToHideBehind156 Babies shouldn't be in their car seats that long because they need to get out and stretch to help their body development and there's also a risk of positional asphyxiation. You're also not supposed to put children in their car seats in bulky clothes like snowsuits because the snowsuit/jacket can collapse enough from the impact of the car for the child to fall out of the seat. That and those snowsuits would be super warm in the car and cause the baby to overheat if the car is heated.
@@MikaMEMMexactly, everything you just said is correct, im a mother and grandmother
Positional asphyxiation in car seats isn't exactly uncommon, especially when the baby is so young. There are warnings all over car seats saying not to let your child sleep in them. @@DoorsToHideBehind156
Also, no hate or blame at all for the momma for his death, but you just pick up your sleeping 11 week old baby from someone and don't check on him or look closely? I don't know, the whole situation just seems a bit neglectful from everyone, and maybe they don't know better but there are certainly red flags all around. Leaving a small baby with someone who just appears like an addict (even if you didn't know she already lost her kids) is something most people wouldn't do, but then having the baby in the car seat for too long in bulky clothing, not once checking closely on him so by the time you notice he has tragically passed, it's already been HOURS??
The whole situation is just horrifying 😢
hearing the mom cry and ask about her baby when she saw the ambulance just made me cry so much
This story makes me so horrified about the people who live in this world. How could you do such a thing to a child and to that poor mother. SMH
And I don’t want to hear anything about it “well she should be watching her own child” if a mother is working and have no other choice and she trust someone who supposedly to love children smh that woman (if I can call that animal that)
@@eveelee4152 the woman is clearly a drug addict. You can't tell me there weren't other options. No family or friends or church? My church has a whole program that offers free, certified, and vetted babysitters for struggling families. She could have found somebody trustworthy if she'd looked.
In my country, this nanny used to stab babies in the head with a long needle, because she didn’t want to be a maid and a nanny, and instead of telling the family, she killed 3 of their babies, and they thought it was SIDS.
@@Night_Owlette_30😨😳omg idk what to even say about that besides what a sick evil twisted waste of space that person is
@@Night_Owlette_30 What the hell? That's horrible. Why lie to those people and to herself. How can she even sleep at night.
I've seen this story b4. She has children of her own, but got taken away from social services. Having your own kids + killing others make no sense at all. The fact that she was smiling and went to McDonalds as if nothing happens gives it all away. I feel sorry for the mum! R.I.P little one🕊💗
Makes sense to me. If she couldn't think ahead for how throwing a baby is bad, I doubt she thinks about the consequences of unprotected sex.
I think I have an idea but can someone tell me why her children got taken away?
@@IDontHaveANamejustcallmeAbecause she harmed a baby she was babysitting so bad she proved she was unfit to be a parent
That woman is scary, weird and evil.
Parents knows about that she can 'not take care of her own children how can be a baby sitter for someone else
As a person who smiles when they get caught into a lie, I can tell the way she's zoning out, trying to find the best way to lie it out but she can't stop smiling. This crime is something she probably won't regret.
All she regrets is getting caught
This in the whole body language reading science (fbi) is called a "Duper's Delight" smile. But this woman looks like being high af and a Duper's Delight is converging bizarrely...
Very similar to a tweaker smile. . .
YES!! when I was younger, my mom would ask me something and while she was scolding me i'd stare off into space thinking up a lie convincing enough. in my case, I look up or behind whoevers talking to me.
@@Cel3ere5
Yes I mentioned duper's.
People should be aware of this, might help in situations.
Oh noo 😬 it hurts to imagine what that poor baby went through and how his mother feels after this terrible loss.
Dang her smile crying trying not to laugh is what horror movies are mage of..You low-key nailed it with Gollum😢
Honestly her face is so unsettling and scary. She doesn’t look human. I can’t imagine the pain and heartbreak the parents must be going through. Pure evil.
Right , I couldn't look at the video whenever her footage came on, it's so scary. What a horrible human being
I think they need a valid license before babysitting, parents should refrain from looking for cheap babysitting.
A lot of people don't have a choice, people can get pregnant unexpectedly and are in a position where they can't afford to not work. Also, cost isn't indicative of quality.
I agree like you can tell those people are gross, ghetto people like how are you gonna trust your child with people like that smh.
@@HelenDamnation96then dont have kids 🤷♀️
@@BlackRedBlueBerry circumstances and situations change all the time buddy, hope it doesn't happen to you
@@chelseaaddams5076 good because i dont want kids period
i was so uncomfortable watching her „crylaugh“ bcs it looked so uncanny valley but when stephanie said gollum i laughed so hard😭
The screams of the mother made me cry. Its heart wrenching every time... poor mother and poor baby who didn't get a chance to live and grow.
yeah it so sad
I know I can't imagine the pain 💔 God bless her and I hope eventually she can heal and I hope she doesn't blame herself because I'm sure there are assholes out there that are trying to blame her in part. Omg it's just so devastating 😢
Not knowing CPR and taking care of children is insane; the smirking is beyond disturbing and she is definitely on drugs… her mannerisms and responses.. dear god my heart goes out to the family of the child.
Not that insane the majority of mothers don't know CPR and they watch their kids daily. Should CPR training be mandatory at every school to mitigate this issue at least a little and save lives probably. However until that becomes reality you probably couldn't let almost anyone in your family watch your kids.
Ngl it throws me off when we have a gruesome case n randomly we transition to an ad
Right??? It's just so.. abrupt and jarring
Well its what keeps channles like this going. They have to put it in
@@keithoutrich7643 they could do it at the end or before they start. I didn't say take it out, just that it threw me off
There are add ons and apps to automatically pass promotions in videos
YESSSS i thought i was the only one😭😭
Out of Nowhere “ I Didn’t Throw Him”!!! That says it all!!!
Some people work with children on purpose because they know they are kind and innocent. So so sad
They kinda not. maybe before the age of 3, afterb that it's usually bullying. killing and destroying ants, rippiing off wing from butterflies e,t,c, They stop doing all of that only if their caregiver teaches them not to, cos children are curious but not yet empathetic, so they are not kind
@@LSG101097it’s not that they aren’t emphatic in fact they can be it’s just that they don’t know what’s truly right and wrong at that age because they are children
@@LSG101097- Are you talking about serial killers in the making or about people who seek out activities to be near to kids for evil purposes?! Because that's what the oc is texting about.
@@LSG101097that's how they learn it doesn't mean they don't have empathy
This statement doesnt make sense.
Holtz’s interview with Marissa outside the hotel room gave me the shudders. Marissa’s expression, mannerisms, whiny voice… nightmarish.
PSA: Never leave a sleeping baby in a car seat! And no one should watch your child without knowing CPR. This is why letting your neighbors friends and family babysit can be dangerous.
Keep spreading this knowledge far and wide. It could save someone's baby. I want to add, you never put a baby or small child into a car seat with their snowsuit or jacket on. Cover them with a blanket (that can't cover their nose or mouth and isn't bulky obviously).
Why are car seats dangerous for sleeping babies?
@@2degucitasBecause they are at a higher risk of positional asphyxiation.
@@ApricotJam1010 to be smothered, airway blocked
@@hy.a.cinthh thanks
Exactly the reason why you should set up a home security system with cameras and invite babysitters to your home instead of dropping them off. They will never know what happened. That's so tragic..
An 11 week old baby doesn’t play on the ground with a bunch of stuff.
exactly?? i have multiple siblings and 40+ little cousins, those types of babies can barely even MOVE. My newest baby brother didnt even start really PLAYING playing till he was about 9-10 months because only then he could crawl. its so fucking sickening.
No she said it fell off the couch
@@MeliChriKoDear ohh, whoops nd the fact that she called the baby a "it" is so crazy.
@@strxwberrypuff fr?
@@strxwberrypuffIkr, "it" 😱
I don't call dogs and cats "it", let alone a baby.
Probably one of the most disturbing criminals I've seen in a while.
The way Marissa tries to justify herself, "apologizing" to try to reach a compromise that would benefit her, is like she's treating this case like a high school friend problem. You killed INFANTS. She treats this as a forgivable crime. Like she truly doesn't understand what's the big deal...
The way she was smiling was so haunting 😥
Real life monster it’s so sickening 😡
Demonic
Sooo creepy
It's the meth. She doesn't know how to use her expressions properly anymore. It's disturbing.
Not stephanie describing her as gollum and saying "my PrEciOus👹" 🤣🤣🤣💀💀
She was so serious with it as well
Thank you for covering this case. This happened in my home town, to people who I grew up with; my best friend’s nephew. Forever may you rest in paradise Benson Xiong
Hugs, I'm sorry for your loss. It's so sad that this happened.
Hey A tragic incident has come to light in Pakistan involving a 20-year-old
woman who was 5 months pregnant and already a mother of 3 . Her husband allegedly r*ped and brutally murdered her after she refused to sell the family property at his insistence. The brutality of the crime is shocking: he cut her tongue, broke her teeth, and then hanged her. I know your team can do more research and educate the whole world.
Do you know their names????
@@mhm3071 yeah Sania Zahra
That's truly horrifying and I bet he's not getting much time in jail is he . Because in far too many Middle Eastern countries they do not care about abuse of women. This is sick....
Omg...I looked it up...I need an American version to understand 😢
@@Angelface11 Pakistan isn't a middle eastern countries. It's a south asian one, and the lack of care for the abuse of women occurs through all countries. In fact, just in the U.K, the rate of abuse towards women increase depends on whether the football team looses or doesn't loose.
“Why is he dead??”
“We were hoping you could shed some light on that” the fact it sound like the police woman already knows is so foul 😭
as soon as I heard "baby had scull AND ankle fructures", I immediately thought she smacked him on the wall by holding by his ankle or threw him holding by his ankle.. she is evil..
Bruh that smile on the killer, cant imagine how officers felt talking about a murdered baby with the suspect just smiling like that 😬
Fucking hell the smile when they got to the part about telling her of the dead baby 🤢
How do you think we found you 😂😂 jfc I feel so bad for Heather, really hope she was able to get justice for Baby Benson ❤
That’s is actually horrific of a babysitter to do to a poor child who did nothing to you. As a babysitter I could never imagine in my life harming a child, what she did to those poor kids are unforgivable and I hope she pays the price.
Dude even if a child hits you or throws a tantrum or acts like satan himself…nothing warrants what this woman has done to multiple children. 😢
You know the situation is bad when Stephanie is throwing shade from the beginning. 😂😂😂 golem
“i dOn’T kNOw whAT hAPpEnEd oH My GoD- yeah no they weren’t frustrating”
Floored.