How To Connect An Amiga To The Internet
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- Опубліковано 8 лип 2024
- How to use an Amiga 1200 from 1992 on the WWW, IRC, BBS/Telnet demo, Email. AmigaOS 4 internet software and MorphOS.
CNet PCMCIA to Ethernet device driver: aminet.net/package/driver/net/...
MiamiDX Setup guide: eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t...
Roadshow: roadshow.apc-tcp.de/
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watching those kind of video, it grows up in my mind the idea to buy again an amiga...how i loved it...
Yep, my Amiga 1200 its on Internet, since 1993/94, and browse bbs´s from the 80s (i my A1000/A500, i still have those machines too! and other Amiga models) . And you know, the A1200 i still using, was my main computer until 2010!. I have next to me!: Nice video!.
Miami was written by Holger Kruse and sold by Nordic Global. I still use it - it's a dead-end but with Genesis, any complex configuration means editing text files where Miami has a UI for things like adding users and plugging services into inetd. If you want to get Samba working, take any advantage you can find!
Wow, this takes me back. Back in '96, one of the 2 A1200s we had was online. Only had the giddy heights of 33.6kbps but back then it was enough.
I loved AmIRC and even used to hang in the channel where the creator, Oliver Wagner would be too. Had great fun using bots too.
Anyway, loved the vid. Makes me wish I still had an Amiga.
Getting an old machine online remains the same question "What examply would you do" ? IRC,? It would be very limited other than just to show it off...
Its good to do anyway, but just like running AmigaOS 4.1 in emulation,,,, apart from viewing workbench, there is noting that makes it as useful as an AMiga 500
I use IBrowse on my A1200 (Blizzard 1230MK4). Particularly handy when waiting on Windows 10 updates.
Nice to see someone doing these types of videos for Amiga, been thinking of doing it myself from time to time :).
Miami/Delux, AmiTCP, Roadshow etc are all based on the same engine, the stack that you find in BSD, the reason that Roadshow is faster is that it uses a newer version of that engine (but far from the latest).
Ooh, and nice to see people are still using our old crack of Miami Delux ;-).
Nice video! Your old Amigas and new ones are cool. And, yes, thank you to Commodore for the PCMCIA port. That has proven to be a great benefit over the years.... er, decades now.
Thanks, this comes at the right time, I have the network card lying around, and will try to get Roadshow running on my 1200.
The Amiga was actually employed in a number of creative businesses. Music production was fairly common, though it's not as widespread as the Atari ST was. It was a lot more common in video production though. It also has a lot of productivity software that was quite credible.
Ironically it was heavily used in the production of game art for PS1s.
Thanks for the great, very informative video. It certainly brought so many fantastic memories of a machine & an OS that were so ahead of their time. Enjoyed it immensely. And ... cool hair, dude! : o)
Good work Dan, I learned some useful info from this video. I'm in the process of hacking a Mac Mini motherboard into an A1200 case to run MorphOS having that authentic hardware feel. It'll be fun for sure.
That is an impressive amount of info. Great video!
Connecting to the internet on my 1979 Apple II plus is fun too.
I just love your videos! the only problem is that you dont make enough of them :)
Nope, only filmed it yesterday! Have shown some of the OS4/MOS software in my "Why use amiga in 2011" video though a couple of years back.
Thanks man, great video as usual.
Dude, there is no wizard on my Genesis folder. How i can configure this manualy???
That CFBBS.... Akron and Cuyahoga Falls are areas local to me o-o
Emulation video is a nice idea, I'll get one done soon :)
I remember that I used the greatest terminal program I ever worked with until today - 'Term' by Olaf `Olsen' Barthel with a telser.device for telnet BBS fun back in the days. Used AmiTCP with CSLIP and later PPP - was a betatester for YAM..
Usinet, miss the flame wars between some our outspoken members on my favorite forums.
Dang, I'm trying to get back into the Amiga scene... Got an A600 and a vampire II. There is a serious learning curve here for me. I left amiga 2 years after Commodore went out of business.
I never left Amiga.
Omg this is faster then my 3ds and windows xp computer.
using old orinico prism2 pcmcia - WIFI 11Mbps / Genesis as tcp/ip stack.. so.. as you said, thank you commodore for putting a pcmcia port on the A1200 & A600 machines
I want to buy an Amiga soon (I collect old consoles and stuff).
Would you recommend me an Amiga 1200 or 4000? I can't decide which one I should get.
Also which OS is better 3.5 or 3.9?
Nice work fellow /g/entleman.
Dan, is it easy to get genesis working with Amitcp ? I'm waiting for my delivery from Amigakit, I ordered the easynet pcmcia network and Amitcp comes with it so I was just wondering how you get the two programs working together ?
0:20 - Like the lighting camera trick
can you put the Morph os on the Amiga Forever Amiga 4000 PPC?
Hi where to download the new amiga intervision screen mode that you showed?
Why is the interface on this 1992 computer so fast? Has this Amiga 1200 been upgraded? Though I'm a vintage computer 'enthusiast' I have no experience with Amiga, but am beginning to get interested.
You should do a video on connect an old mac to the internet
Is there a way if sharing the internet connection from the pc from the com port,I have my A1700 connected to my pc so I can transfer files to it with a null modem cable..?
Does it work with an Amiga 500? I just bought one from ebay.
How do you figure that?
you're videos don't suck! hah, this was really interesting, I had no idea they could go online!
Nice video! I've been thinking about getting my A1200 online for a while, but I don't really want to pay the inflated prices places like Amigakit want for their network cards.
Trouble is I'm not really sure which PCMCIA cards *will* work and I can't really find much information about compatible cards, although from what I can tell anything NE2000 compatible should work. Would a Belkin F5D5020 (this is a 16-bit PCMCIA card) work?
Hey there Kookytech. I like your video's very much. They give me valuable information how to setup my Amiga 1200. In this video I noticed you have an external cd-rom drive and from what it appears an IDE cable coming out of the left side, somewhere through the A1200 case. I have searched your video's for any information about external cd-rom drives, but sadly there is not any one. Maybe you could do a small video about how to with this external drive?
I got hold of some cables with the 44 pin connector for 2.5 inch drives on one end, and 40 pin full size IDE on the other. You need something like that and an external power supply. Unfortunately, older 2.5 inch IDE drives don't work well with a 2nd drive.
How will the internet run on a standard unexpanded A1200 3.0?
Not all of it. It was heavily used in the early seasons, but they were seriously pushing the limits of what the system was capable of.
I believe Lightwave remained employed but eventually they created a PC based render farm just to increase the complexity of the scenes and reduce render times.
Check the wikipedia article
Yeah, my router doesn't support WEP and I don't have a PCMCIA wifi card, but yes it can be done if they run the prism chipset iirc.
if I wanted to could I install and use android on this?
Hello
, OS 3.1/3.9im trying to run amiQuake a i have got network related problem - I_Error: NET_Init: you need a valid host name, or use -ip i have installe AmiTCp and browsers running fine.
I have tried 3 different machines.
True, but it would still be interesting to see it in action anyway.
Apparently not all NE2000 cards work on the A1200 unfortunately. I can't find any info on that particular card, but mine is a CNet CN40BC, others that are known to work: Fiberline 4680, Kingston KNE-PC2T, kingston KNE-PC20, Accton EN2216, Socket Communications model AAA-1001, DLink DE-650, SureCom EP-527. Ebay the best bet!
I believe some one is working on an SSL layer for os3.9 So maybe someday you can secure shell into your server. You can probably even Shell into your router if it has a server running. Or you can log into a linux, or windows box.
Can you get flash and will it work on the 650?
Have you tried Roadshow and/or NetSurf ?
If so ---- thoughts / opinions ?
Is there an address bar in that browser? It looked so small if there was one.
Both Ibrowse and Aweb have adress bars
It's a range of computers by commodore from 1986 - 1992.
You need an Indivision AGA scandoubler card fitted to use it.
Its called a BNC connection im just about to do a video on how to connect the amiga to the internet with easy net
Oh yeah, that "other thingy" on your dongle is Token-ring. ;)
Nope, its ethernet, just co axial, thats what used to be used before twisted pair cat 5. No hub needed, but nobody on the network could unplug themselves or the network crashes.
Lol, I nearly failed my degree because of Pinball Fantasies. Put this way, I got really good at it ;) That's what you get for using an A1200 as a word processor in 1992!
Back in 93 I had my a3000 on the internet via a local isp and a courrier hst modem on my serial port. I’ve wondered why not connect the serial port to a raspberry pi via a null modem and create a ppp connection from the Amiga to the pi, and let the pi route packets to the lan/internet. It would be dirt cheap,, I’m just not sure where to start...
15:29 Try "Joshua." What could possibly go wrong? :)
[Edit]: Damn, and then you did it before I could watch the rest of the video!!!
but nice to see old stuff (special stuf like "pc")
kookytech.net (techguruuk)
Regarding Amitcp, Do you think it's faster than Miami DX? I connect my 1200 with the Easynet package from Amigakit but the programs guru for me so I use Miami at the moment.
I'm just wondering if you've noticed any significant increase in speed between the two ?
;Awesome , thank you .
what I am seeing is all on a 68020?
Hello I am looking forward to have an Amiga 1200 . Its been a dream ,for long. But I would like to know..is it possible to run any early New Tek Lightwave software on that machine ? I did write to NewTek support If they sell old versions ,still waiting an answer but yeah I would love to see a 3D program , thank you . Your videos are awesome !
TelNET is before my time I used a DOS 6.11 and win 95 to start and 98. I upgraded a 3.0 DOS to 6.11 before. the first DOS with handle support 3.0 I think it was a stupid support that Microsoft forgot. it's been a long time since I used it, but ALL that is obsolete now, lol!
Well they have no PCMCIA ports, easiest way would be sharing internet from a PC over the Serial port, won't be very fast though.
AmigaOS4.1 looks realy realy good.
Is there anyone out there that has setup a pcmcia wifi card on Amiga OS 3.2? I'm hoping someone can do a video on how to configure the wifi card and show what order the required programs need to be installed. I tried but Reorg clashed with another app and crashed my system.
Well 1994 actually :)
Helps if you turn AF off on camera and just manually focus on the screen...
+E arthguy I use a screen-capture device these days, so don't have that problem any more. But the viewfinder was too small on my camera to tell if it was in focus back then.
If it's really powerful, you could get a Javascript powered nes emulator called JSNES.
wait...didnt you upload this video before? or have I become prescient?
No 68K, works great though
Probably because the PS2 had a Linux kit in 2001 or something like that. A really bad port, too.
Considering the fact that Debian, I think, runs on an Amiga 1200 flawlessly...
The pcmcia ethernet adaptor? No, the A500 has no pcmcia slot.
remember MIRc !!
There is no flash for the Amiga no, but it's a dead technology anyway. Most sites are moving towards HTML5.
How a 1986 computer on web
Sabrina, eat your heart out!
You forgot Timberwolf :)
i love my a1200 how to see my pc on the a1200
Intentionally, it's nowhere near ready for primetime yet. It takes around 2 mins to load up on my system, then uses 100% of the CPU pretty much constantly, and usually locks the entire system up when it exists. Very early, buggy alpha release at best currently!
Is wireless possible?
Yeah, check out Amigakit.com and locate a package called "Easynet" it comes in two formats:
One with a Rj45--ethernet connector and a wireless
I'm not sure if they still have it but they used to
Stefan Harnesk Nice!
Yeah it is, I got that package myself, not the wireless though
How on earth is it a PC? It's a Commodore Amiga 1200. Technically this one is an ESCOM model, but it;s Commodore hardware with their badge on it.
I think in the older days it doesn't really make sense, but perhaps developers cared more about money than selling something useful..
Today, you have all browsers which are free, but even a simple thing like a stack in the old days or a web browsers were considered commercial/shareware , and they were only "demos" ... Seriously? A web browser..
Maybe more developers wanted more make profit than they do today. All this could have been fuelled by the Amiga never had any of this stuff built in, up till OS 3.9 or above. and very few open source were available.
You should of used an older crt monitor.
It just whinges that you have no Flash and upgrade to a new browser, not that exciting!
Grrr :P
Why is Eliza more intelligent than Evie?
Evie would say a random thing after telling hello. And after typing back something, she would say and even more random thing.
Still is they used it it make Quake 4 . The PS3 is a Amiga clone
"Why, Mr. Anderson? Why,why, why?........"
@Dan Wood:
Dan, you repeatedly say things in your comments like "How to use an Amiga 1200 from 1992 to....", while sweeping under the carpet the fact that you can't achieve the things you do with an Amiga using Amiga *components* from 1992.
The facts remain that:
1. Most of the time you Cannot do the things you suggest on an Amiga 1200 *IN* 1992.
2. By the time you could do the things which you suggest on an Amiga, it was long past 1992 in a time by which there were *far* better PC solutions.
The example you have produced here was in 2013 and is clearly quite limited and barely comparable to PCs of 20 years earlier.
Also: There's a long stream of parallel: "Hey! You can do this on an Amiga!" shouts, with source ports of software and interfaces already long available for the PC.
It's good that Amiga fans are finding this out. They should be encouraged to update their theories about why the PC was more successful than the Amiga because if you're prepared to be honest with yourself then obviously "marketing" does not cover it: The PC has always been a better platform than the Amiga for a number of crucial things, including networking. Better supported networking is one of the reasons the PC market was well underpinned by countless departments of people with middle-class jobs furnished with fleets of networked PCs.
FYI: 3Com Ethernet cards have been available for the PC since 1982.
os4 and pegasos emmulate so they arent amiga os at all
How does a computer almost 30 years old do that? Its almost 200 times less powerful than an average PC? Software is the main reason for that.
Not sure what you mean you make no sense ps2 is only a games machine .
lol ;)
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omg what a old crap ^^
you just contradicted yourself pfff bonjour
I still use a i3 boo hoo!!
LOL! Why would you bother?!? Just get a Mac and install Windows 8... :p
Such an annoying guy