So what did you learn? 1. Greed is bad actually. The AI declares war constantly on Apollo, you can’t afford to simcity the whole game with minimal military and no base defenses. The speed at which cities are captured took you by surprise. It won’t next time. (Also, aquatic cities are extremely vulnerable and nearly impossible to defend unless you have some kind of choke point you can hold the enemy off at, I do not recommend them for your early expands.) 2. Affinity is key. Enemy tech advances can sneak up on you and before you know it you’re fighting units twice as strong as yours. Your tech focus should therefore be decided by affinity moreso than whatever nifty building or unit is unlocked. Sometimes those are worth it, but not at the cost of losing wars. Also prioritize expeditions on progenitor ruins because they can grant free affinity level ups, and give artifacts that can’t be acquired outside of expeditions. 3. Industry and might are much, much more powerful than prosperity, and knowledge is almost always a luxury you can’t afford on Apollo. You need to improve your city’s productivity and your units’ efficacy. The might virtue that gives 20% more affinity xp might be the best in the game. The industry virtue that improves domestic trade by 25% might be the second best. 4. Health is not happiness. You can sit at low or negative health without issue (though the AI will be more aggressive to you if you’re negative), and you should view health more as a cap to your expansionism and to how many health-consuming tile improvements you can build (manufactories!!!). Units on the field are more important, as they let you win wars and take money, cities and tech(!!!) from your enemies. The unit cap is determined by city count and population. Also, more cities means more trade routes. 5. Victory. You’re looking to achieve actual victory in the game, not just spin the wheels of your empire. This more than anything should determine every action you take, but most importantly it should determine your tech path. There’s all sorts of neat units and buildings and bonuses and wonders in the tech web but never forget that a web is a trap. Keep your focus and win the game instead of flexing with your eco while the AI sneaks in the win.
Soooo, the reason he decided to quit this match in particular is because one of the A.I. opponents is 22 turns away from winning the game, and she cannot be stopped on time. But Potato said that "He has learned a lot!!"... Let's see, if he uses that knowledge!
This is one of the dumbest parts of the game. The AI can get extremely lucky occasionally and get a 200 turn win if one of their explorers happens to get the decode signal. I've stopped it before, but you essentially have to have the a strong standing military or it just becomes outright impossible to win.
I reinstalled the game after I saw the beginning of this series and at first I thought it was great, but as it went along I remembered why I quit back then. The endgame, especially the victory conditions, are simply not fun.
I felt despair set in when Potato seemed to forget what the victory conditions are. The game does expect you to aim your research at one. But, even if you don't know what the enemy's victory condition building does, you can try to blow it up! 22 turns is a decent hunk of time.
Some suggestions if you plan on doing another run: Affinity focusing is unfortunately the first thing you want to prioritize, as your affinity levels dictate how powerful your army is. You can't feasibly get points into every affinity until the late game. Pick up a second Affinity if you wish, but make sure they are equivalent. In this case, hard focusing is actually detrimental, as any levels you gain in the second Affinity are better put in the first. Look at available strategics right off the bat and focus that Affinity. You'll level up your units faster, which makes the AI less willing to declare war on you. Health isn't that big an issue if it's negative, as long as it's not too crazy. You're perfectly fine dropping at least until -10. Wipe out the Aliens near your territory, but don't push them into the red. Their constant movement makes working specific tiles annoying. When you get the Ultrasonic Fence, always pick the Trader buff. Excavate with Explorers ALL THE TIME. Return to base if they need more modules. The benefits to excavating are significantly better than resource pods, which can also be collected by any unit. You can even get Affinity levels, which are HUGE. Pay attention to other leaders agendas. Try to at least satisfy 2 of them. Provided they like you enough, they aren't likely to declare war unless you're chasing a Victory condition.
didn't help that he spied on basicly everyone and got discovered. Other than that pretty solid, going for 2 different affinities is fine just don't leap into the third unless you have good reasons for it. Stealing specific tech options can get you into all three for example but I wouldn't go all three normally. Oohh and if you do spread affinites do pay attention to what the enemies/ai do because they will trigger victory conditions....this is where not skimping on military helps.
@@electricheisenberg5723 Well no, that still adds up to 12, but it's easier to achieve because diversifying your Affinity requires less tech. The vast majority of your Affinity levels will come from Tech, so many cheap techs are faster to research than the more expensive ones.
@@Solus749 You're pretty much safe from AI win cons unless they've built their Planetary Wonder (as the only win con that doesn't require it is Conquest). Unlike with Science victories in Civ 6, you just need to pillage (in the case of Promised Land) or destroy/capture the city with the Wonder, as they will be forced to rebuild it. The game also announces when players make progress to win cons, so realistically, you should take action before it gets to that point. The issue with the Contact win con is that it's the easiest out of every win condition. It's extremely low investment compared to the others and can even be speedrun if you find the proper outcome from a Precursor Ruin. The only thing that the Beacon does once powered is that it totally prevents you from earning Energy while it's active.
I actually just beat the game for the first time on Apollo difficulty cause your videos got me interested again. The strat I found was unlock ecology first for the sonic fences and eventual protection for trade routes. Then go into pioneering for the settlers. Get a few basic techs for resource production like petroleum and titanium then b-line a few techs that will get you level 5 or 6 into harmony. Focus harmony and the three needed techs in the harmony victory then just turtle as best you can. It is the most consistent and least work heavy victory by a long shot.
@@George-o-rat maybe he shouldn't have mass spied on everyone and pissed everyone off. Another thing, you NEED military in BE don't skimp on it it is one of the surefire way to scare enemies off. They calculate win chances against you based on how much you got as well as what you do diplomaticly....aka don't spy on everyone pick your targets because haveing spies getting discovered lower your reputation and makes them more likley to attack you.
Would be great to see more Beyond Earth from you Mr. Whiskey! Just next time maybe pick a victory condition to work towards instead of just "focus on health". Cheers!
One big reason to keep the map as small as you possibly can is that larger maps have more expeditions available, which gives the AI more chances to get the decode signal expedition, which can give them an absurdly early contact win.
I was able to play it on my modern Windows 11 PC, there's a post on the Steam discussion forum called "CIV:BE - not starting" full of suggestions for things you can try to get it to run. I was able to launch it just by removing "read only" on a couple of folders.
@@Rymdpandan I was able to start the game 90% of the time. But it would crash within a minute or two with a EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION error. I did make sure none of the folders were read only. Verified game files with Steam. Tried Windows 7 compatibility mode. Tried running as administrator. Also I see that this problem goes back many years so it's probably not fair of me to say it's a Windows 11 / modern problem.
I had to run with windows 7 compatibility, set graphics to medium, and set resolution to 1920x1080 in windowed mode. It's still not 100% stable but I can make it to the end of a game now.
@@joshmanisdabomb redownloaded it clean on my windows 11 computer and it ran just fine. Did you verify the files because if those break or the archive that track them lose the "marker" it can't find the needed files anymore
You are not losing this game. You just have to pillage the victory condition building and the counter will reset. Another important think: this game is all about affinities. If you focus on one of them, it's very easy to win. The upgraded units are so much stronger and you can crush everyone with 5 units of higher rank.
Arms keep peace, Potato, gotta have a strong naval pack going by mid-game, to hunt alien nests and annex naval cities, git that naval pack going, and also have a strong early-mid hover presence with Throne + Autosled to take inland cities and alien nests.
The technology web is the greatest part of this game and I am surprised no other game really used it. Science is not a linear progress, countries don't focus on one thing at a time either, so it'd be super cool if rather than research one tech, you had a giant web and gained progress in a bunch of them at a time, with certain actions, like gaining buildings, units, spycraft, conquering enemy cities with technologies already researched, etc... would give you points in a lot of your technologies.
I think if you want to win a game of BE, you need to pick a win condition and actually try to achieve it. Spent a lot of time spreading your advancement to Purity / Supremacy. Could have been building the mind flower 50 turns ago. Alternatively, you might be able to switch off win conditions at setup?
Industry Tree ain't bad, a small investment of 3 virtues yields this great Energy virtue. When you have 10 000 Energy, you can basically buy anything every couple of turns, and don't really lose out on money. Also, it helps kickstart any new city by making strateguc purchases, and an energy stock can be great to create an army out of thin air when you get attacked. I also love later Industry virtues like the one giving 0.5 Industry per pop in a city, and the one giving 0.2 health per building in a city. Sadly they require quite the investment in virtues.
I remember Tacjets being stupidly op once you get a level or two in them. Even then, you just have to cycle them, keeping some at base if they get really damaged. Once you have enough though, if something is in range of a tacjet bombing, it's likely not going to last long. And the AI doesn't seem to be able to keep up with providing decent air defense, even on harder difficulties.
@@captainmurphy4948 purity tacjets with heal every turn lead to me pretty easily winning a war against everyone at the same time, as I could kill 3-4 units for free every turn
I really feel like CivBE ai is the best ai out of the civ games, they are brutal. You played a super greedy build. Also, the ai will respect your espionage by answering it with violence, thus you need a better military so that their fear level will make the ai less likely to attack. Also, play pan-asian. They are op af. Spam cities in the early game. The first wonder in a city is free. Like it insta-builds in 1 turn.
Hey Potato! Love these video's, man... Civ BE is definitely one of my favorites. Tip for your next playthrough: go for the 'fabrication' tech much, much earlier: the carriers are nice, but the building gives a quest that lets you increase the yields from Titanium mines. These will skyrocket your production :)
The beacon is right there and 22 turns is more than enough time to sail over and blow it up. Which is what you’re supposed to do here (at least on harder difficulties it’s very unlikely you can win without actively destroying some other faction’s victory attempt) I once won by taking out two mind flowers and an exodus gate all in about 30 turns. You haven’t lost this one and should keep trying for the win. But for goodness sake look at the quest victories tab to keep track of what other civs are doing!
The problem wasn't that you didn't have enough cities, the problem was that your cities were basically undefended, and the AI decided that those weren't going to be your cities anymore. You can't go full simcity in beyond earth, you NEED to have some military and you NEED to have good combat strength on your cities, or else the AI will forever deathwar you, especially on harder difficulties. Your problem was also that a LOT of your cities were coastal, and that is the easiest way to loose your cities by not having a strong navy to act as a deterrent for an AI to just walz on in and snag a couple of cities.
I remember the AI always going to war against me in this game. Even when I had squadrons of tacjets ready to just pound them into submission. One game on hardest or second-hardest difficulty I killed every enemy except for one slavic city, and it was hilarious to watch how much the game cheats. One turn and it'd spawn an entire army to defend the city, only to have the army bombed back into the void.
The Beauty of Beyond Earth, it's sad that we don't have more DLC and a 2nd Game, this is what pulled me and all others into the game over a decade ago Feel old yet, this game is already 10years old, (it turned 10 years on October 23rd)
I have played a few hundred hours of this game back when and though it is enjoyable for a time, it is also horribly sterile. No project videos (Alpha Centauri), everything is a symbol not a picture and the leaders are manikins. It's a mod for Civ5 sold as a full release.
Energy focus is so overpowered, there is a deal you can make with the AI that also gives you a % energy. then when you are attacked, just buy your way into a huge military
Give it a try. I know it's frustriting, but I tried going full explorer and doing all the exploration sites for the artifacts. Also from playing this game long time, going jets is the way to go. Also some artifact gives you more chance to find more artifacts and some can increase your jet strength. Also with supremacy you can gain coverage from firaxit. Combine it with teleporting satelite, you can have insta-war-win :)
Here's hoping there's another one. At least so I can indulge this mandela effect where I can swear I've played this before but can't find anything anywhere to substantiate that feeling.
Hear me out. Imagine a technology that the player could research that would be something like “advanced AI” that would give the player better recommendations on what to do or just do some things that require micro-management which takes a lot of time on later stages of the game
When you go about playing BE, 20+ health is useless. You should always be settling cities. The 2 civic paths you use are the military and cultral paths. There is a policy where you get health from units. It's completely bonkers if you have +40 cities pumping out military units
i can't remember everything about Beyond Earth but i think you still had a chance: you didn't have to wipe out Elodie, you can just wreck her Beacon, which i think was reachable. i can't be bothered to find the timestamp but i saw a glimpse of it.
Awkward title misleading of your thoughts you express at end of video of enjoying the game, but apparently not this current save game because you might lose, thus making the game look bad to new people browsing. Regarding losing, couldn’t you just turn all production to military and rush all units to the opponent? What about disabling those victory conditions next time. Can role play that even though an opponent accomplishes some grand condition others are still there to compete. I suppose victory conditions on can be role played to that a grand condition met inspire all nations populations to folllow your rule.
I'd say if you start again, maybe consider NOT being so aggressive with your spies, though also consider a different alignment much as you know how Harmony works (more then before) I think seeing what Purity and Supremacy do, and perhaps a hybrid of the alignments can do.
Jesus potatoe, why r they declaring war on me , ur stealing from all of them , since u could start , n u keep doing it , over n over , i said this last video , read ur comments
Not sure what I'm doing wrong. When I see the AI just going by it's other enemies with it's navy, leaving itself defenseless, just to attack me across the globe, that's when I usually ragequit. On planets without much water I can hold out longer before I get an entire coalition marching against me, again across the globe and often through or at least by enemy territory. Too bad I really like the scifi vibe of this game.
Please do some videos about We The People! I would kill to see you or you AND the yogs play some multiplayer SO BAD! ps; Civ:BE is a fun game but, man, its rough sometimes.
Guys, how did you manage to launch this game, because it doesn't even open every single time I try it! I went to some Steam forums and every solution that I tryed simply does not work! Some help? Thanks!
What I remember HATING about this game was that-- as a build and expand game - you were essentially punished for having more than about 3? 4? settlements. Recall management of Health a chore. One of the few games I truly regret purchasing. Have not touched it in years.
It is one of the few civ games where crazy early expansion doesn't always pay off. Wide is still better than tall, but you need the ability to get a new settlement "up and running." quickly Managing health is similar to managing happiness in Civ V, in many ways. Several things went wrong here. Constant war is definitely the biggest factor. Potato's first few settlements were in relatively bad locations (should have moved in-land imo) both for yields and defense. Internal trade routes should have been up and running a lot earlier. etc. etc. Some games just don't pan out. I still feel BE has aged better than Civ V, even though it felt like a Civ V total conversion mod back in the day. Also, I haven't played it in years. Who knows how I will manage after all these years of Civ VI?
I feel like unfortunately Potato lost a bunch of cities and spent a lot of production getting them back and settling new ones instead of science buildings and more culture which could get those strong health bonuses through affinity and policy. He was too focused on boosting health at the city level with buildings instead of pushing on and unlocking macro-bonuses, which as you can see, completely flipped the situation and he ended with 50 health. Also he ended up doing so much war that he could have pivoted to military hard and just conquered the continent.
you can have negative health and be just fine it. All it does is lower ing productin and growth, what you don't do is skimping on military that is your number one way to lessen getting wars thrown at you. The second most important thing is paying attention to what opponents do and what their political goals are. If you want to avoid wars with them try to keep 2 of them in the green and DON'T spy on them ( atleast don't get discovered doing it ). Lastly don't overestimate how resistant to damage your cities are in BE compared to civ 5, civ 6 an army can roll a city in 1-2 turns. Even early game armies of just 2 soldiers and 1-2 rangers can take a city FAST.
Ok, genuinely, please make a new playthrough after either loosing or winning this one, i genuinely started to find the game interesting again and i want to see more 🥲❤️
Video intro: "I am having a nice chill time"
Video Title: "I fucking hate this game"
Seens about right
@@thespiffingbrit not balanced enough with 0 exploits
British spotted! Hide your potatoes and similar valuables
beyond earth perfectly balanced?
The duality of man
agreed, too much war I guess in part from him spying on everyone and pissing them off
Creates a spy network to piss off everybody. Gets pissed off that everybody is mad at them.
^ This.
I said that last video
@@polskabob359 And I call dibs on next video, even if he's playing something else.
Yeah, Terra Invicta all over again.
He just didn't use that advantage right
So what did you learn?
1. Greed is bad actually. The AI declares war constantly on Apollo, you can’t afford to simcity the whole game with minimal military and no base defenses. The speed at which cities are captured took you by surprise. It won’t next time. (Also, aquatic cities are extremely vulnerable and nearly impossible to defend unless you have some kind of choke point you can hold the enemy off at, I do not recommend them for your early expands.)
2. Affinity is key. Enemy tech advances can sneak up on you and before you know it you’re fighting units twice as strong as yours. Your tech focus should therefore be decided by affinity moreso than whatever nifty building or unit is unlocked. Sometimes those are worth it, but not at the cost of losing wars. Also prioritize expeditions on progenitor ruins because they can grant free affinity level ups, and give artifacts that can’t be acquired outside of expeditions.
3. Industry and might are much, much more powerful than prosperity, and knowledge is almost always a luxury you can’t afford on Apollo. You need to improve your city’s productivity and your units’ efficacy. The might virtue that gives 20% more affinity xp might be the best in the game. The industry virtue that improves domestic trade by 25% might be the second best.
4. Health is not happiness. You can sit at low or negative health without issue (though the AI will be more aggressive to you if you’re negative), and you should view health more as a cap to your expansionism and to how many health-consuming tile improvements you can build (manufactories!!!). Units on the field are more important, as they let you win wars and take money, cities and tech(!!!) from your enemies. The unit cap is determined by city count and population. Also, more cities means more trade routes.
5. Victory. You’re looking to achieve actual victory in the game, not just spin the wheels of your empire. This more than anything should determine every action you take, but most importantly it should determine your tech path. There’s all sorts of neat units and buildings and bonuses and wonders in the tech web but never forget that a web is a trap. Keep your focus and win the game instead of flexing with your eco while the AI sneaks in the win.
Soooo, the reason he decided to quit this match in particular is because one of the A.I. opponents is 22 turns away from winning the game, and she cannot be stopped on time. But Potato said that "He has learned a lot!!"... Let's see, if he uses that knowledge!
This is one of the dumbest parts of the game. The AI can get extremely lucky occasionally and get a 200 turn win if one of their explorers happens to get the decode signal. I've stopped it before, but you essentially have to have the a strong standing military or it just becomes outright impossible to win.
@@bunnyben5607 Or a weak army plus phasal transporter
Potato 2 week ago: its good I promise.
Potato now: I quit this stupid game.
I reinstalled the game after I saw the beginning of this series and at first I thought it was great, but as it went along I remembered why I quit back then. The endgame, especially the victory conditions, are simply not fun.
I felt despair set in when Potato seemed to forget what the victory conditions are. The game does expect you to aim your research at one. But, even if you don't know what the enemy's victory condition building does, you can try to blow it up! 22 turns is a decent hunk of time.
such a shame, I love this game. I hope Potato tries again
Some suggestions if you plan on doing another run:
Affinity focusing is unfortunately the first thing you want to prioritize, as your affinity levels dictate how powerful your army is. You can't feasibly get points into every affinity until the late game. Pick up a second Affinity if you wish, but make sure they are equivalent. In this case, hard focusing is actually detrimental, as any levels you gain in the second Affinity are better put in the first.
Look at available strategics right off the bat and focus that Affinity. You'll level up your units faster, which makes the AI less willing to declare war on you.
Health isn't that big an issue if it's negative, as long as it's not too crazy. You're perfectly fine dropping at least until -10.
Wipe out the Aliens near your territory, but don't push them into the red. Their constant movement makes working specific tiles annoying. When you get the Ultrasonic Fence, always pick the Trader buff.
Excavate with Explorers ALL THE TIME. Return to base if they need more modules. The benefits to excavating are significantly better than resource pods, which can also be collected by any unit. You can even get Affinity levels, which are HUGE.
Pay attention to other leaders agendas. Try to at least satisfy 2 of them. Provided they like you enough, they aren't likely to declare war unless you're chasing a Victory condition.
didn't help that he spied on basicly everyone and got discovered. Other than that pretty solid, going for 2 different affinities is fine just don't leap into the third unless you have good reasons for it. Stealing specific tech options can get you into all three for example but I wouldn't go all three normally.
Oohh and if you do spread affinites do pay attention to what the enemies/ai do because they will trigger victory conditions....this is where not skimping on military helps.
Consider: 6 6 units take less total affinity points than 12, no?
@@electricheisenberg5723 Well no, that still adds up to 12, but it's easier to achieve because diversifying your Affinity requires less tech.
The vast majority of your Affinity levels will come from Tech, so many cheap techs are faster to research than the more expensive ones.
@@Solus749 You're pretty much safe from AI win cons unless they've built their Planetary Wonder (as the only win con that doesn't require it is Conquest).
Unlike with Science victories in Civ 6, you just need to pillage (in the case of Promised Land) or destroy/capture the city with the Wonder, as they will be forced to rebuild it.
The game also announces when players make progress to win cons, so realistically, you should take action before it gets to that point.
The issue with the Contact win con is that it's the easiest out of every win condition. It's extremely low investment compared to the others and can even be speedrun if you find the proper outcome from a Precursor Ruin. The only thing that the Beacon does once powered is that it totally prevents you from earning Energy while it's active.
@@LAZERAK47V2 you can destroy the beacon, hence military units. Civ BE isn't civ 5 or civ 6 the mechanics deviate so you need to adopt
I actually just beat the game for the first time on Apollo difficulty cause your videos got me interested again. The strat I found was unlock ecology first for the sonic fences and eventual protection for trade routes. Then go into pioneering for the settlers. Get a few basic techs for resource production like petroleum and titanium then b-line a few techs that will get you level 5 or 6 into harmony. Focus harmony and the three needed techs in the harmony victory then just turtle as best you can. It is the most consistent and least work heavy victory by a long shot.
Damn Potato, gave up already? But you told us it is better than you remembered!
@@gellertgulyas1874 you should've skipped to the end before typing this, probably will feel stupid now
@@George-o-rat Maybe he shouldn’t use clickbait then.
@@reed3 Maybe UA-cam shouldn't reward clickbait then.
@@George-o-rat maybe he shouldn't have mass spied on everyone and pissed everyone off. Another thing, you NEED military in BE don't skimp on it it is one of the surefire way to scare enemies off. They calculate win chances against you based on how much you got as well as what you do diplomaticly....aka don't spy on everyone pick your targets because haveing spies getting discovered lower your reputation and makes them more likley to attack you.
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Would be great to see more Beyond Earth from you Mr. Whiskey! Just next time maybe pick a victory condition to work towards instead of just "focus on health". Cheers!
One big reason to keep the map as small as you possibly can is that larger maps have more expeditions available, which gives the AI more chances to get the decode signal expedition, which can give them an absurdly early contact win.
just disable all winning conditions besides domination, easy
@@csabaszasz4466 Lol I forgot you could do that
No problem. I have 300 hours in the game, not much but I know a few handy tricks here and there
These Beyond Earth episodes made me reinstall the game only to learn I can't play it on my modern Windows 11 PC
backwards combatability
I was able to play it on my modern Windows 11 PC, there's a post on the Steam discussion forum called "CIV:BE - not starting" full of suggestions for things you can try to get it to run. I was able to launch it just by removing "read only" on a couple of folders.
@@Rymdpandan I was able to start the game 90% of the time. But it would crash within a minute or two with a EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION error. I did make sure none of the folders were read only. Verified game files with Steam. Tried Windows 7 compatibility mode. Tried running as administrator. Also I see that this problem goes back many years so it's probably not fair of me to say it's a Windows 11 / modern problem.
I had to run with windows 7 compatibility, set graphics to medium, and set resolution to 1920x1080 in windowed mode. It's still not 100% stable but I can make it to the end of a game now.
@@joshmanisdabomb redownloaded it clean on my windows 11 computer and it ran just fine. Did you verify the files because if those break or the archive that track them lose the "marker" it can't find the needed files anymore
You are not losing this game. You just have to pillage the victory condition building and the counter will reset. Another important think: this game is all about affinities. If you focus on one of them, it's very easy to win. The upgraded units are so much stronger and you can crush everyone with 5 units of higher rank.
"I keep robbing the other civs blind and i don't know why they are declaring war on me" 🤣
Arms keep peace, Potato, gotta have a strong naval pack going by mid-game, to hunt alien nests and annex naval cities, git that naval pack going, and also have a strong early-mid hover presence with Throne + Autosled to take inland cities and alien nests.
Genuinely loved this series, I really hope you do more like you were saying. This game didn't get enough love!
I stole a brasilia city… oh wait…let me reroll…
This proves that potato is mortal just like the rest of us ❤
The technology web is the greatest part of this game and I am surprised no other game really used it.
Science is not a linear progress, countries don't focus on one thing at a time either, so it'd be super cool if rather than research one tech, you had a giant web and gained progress in a bunch of them at a time, with certain actions, like gaining buildings, units, spycraft, conquering enemy cities with technologies already researched, etc... would give you points in a lot of your technologies.
I think if you want to win a game of BE, you need to pick a win condition and actually try to achieve it.
Spent a lot of time spreading your advancement to Purity / Supremacy. Could have been building the mind flower 50 turns ago. Alternatively, you might be able to switch off win conditions at setup?
Industry Tree ain't bad, a small investment of 3 virtues yields this great Energy virtue. When you have 10 000 Energy, you can basically buy anything every couple of turns, and don't really lose out on money. Also, it helps kickstart any new city by making strateguc purchases, and an energy stock can be great to create an army out of thin air when you get attacked.
I also love later Industry virtues like the one giving 0.5 Industry per pop in a city, and the one giving 0.2 health per building in a city. Sadly they require quite the investment in virtues.
Game is actually easy once you embrace ranged navy with some air.
@@wvance0316 real life Merica
I remember Tacjets being stupidly op once you get a level or two in them. Even then, you just have to cycle them, keeping some at base if they get really damaged. Once you have enough though, if something is in range of a tacjet bombing, it's likely not going to last long. And the AI doesn't seem to be able to keep up with providing decent air defense, even on harder difficulties.
@@captainmurphy4948 purity tacjets with heal every turn lead to me pretty easily winning a war against everyone at the same time, as I could kill 3-4 units for free every turn
What is going on? Why do you even question enemy's hostilities when you are constantly steal stuff from them?
I really feel like CivBE ai is the best ai out of the civ games, they are brutal. You played a super greedy build. Also, the ai will respect your espionage by answering it with violence, thus you need a better military so that their fear level will make the ai less likely to attack.
Also, play pan-asian. They are op af. Spam cities in the early game. The first wonder in a city is free. Like it insta-builds in 1 turn.
11:02 If you're trying to find 1/4 (25%) of something just do 1/2 twice. 32 -> 16 -> 8. Quick maths.
Hey Potato! Love these video's, man... Civ BE is definitely one of my favorites. Tip for your next playthrough: go for the 'fabrication' tech much, much earlier: the carriers are nice, but the building gives a quest that lets you increase the yields from Titanium mines. These will skyrocket your production :)
While Potato was spending 200+ turns on Sim City and Health, the AI was actually was winning the game
I was promised a ragequit, and I was betrayed
The beacon is right there and 22 turns is more than enough time to sail over and blow it up. Which is what you’re supposed to do here (at least on harder difficulties it’s very unlikely you can win without actively destroying some other faction’s victory attempt) I once won by taking out two mind flowers and an exodus gate all in about 30 turns. You haven’t lost this one and should keep trying for the win. But for goodness sake look at the quest victories tab to keep track of what other civs are doing!
Looking forward for a next try :D
Oh that escalated quickly.
The problem wasn't that you didn't have enough cities, the problem was that your cities were basically undefended, and the AI decided that those weren't going to be your cities anymore. You can't go full simcity in beyond earth, you NEED to have some military and you NEED to have good combat strength on your cities, or else the AI will forever deathwar you, especially on harder difficulties. Your problem was also that a LOT of your cities were coastal, and that is the easiest way to loose your cities by not having a strong navy to act as a deterrent for an AI to just walz on in and snag a couple of cities.
I remember the AI always going to war against me in this game. Even when I had squadrons of tacjets ready to just pound them into submission. One game on hardest or second-hardest difficulty I killed every enemy except for one slavic city, and it was hilarious to watch how much the game cheats. One turn and it'd spawn an entire army to defend the city, only to have the army bombed back into the void.
The Beauty of Beyond Earth, it's sad that we don't have more DLC and a 2nd Game, this is what pulled me and all others into the game over a decade ago
Feel old yet, this game is already 10years old, (it turned 10 years on October 23rd)
if the AoW4 issues are fixed id love to see more of that
Hope you do another run, I dunno why but BE is fun to watch after many many years of Civ6.
The rage quit is next levels of anger i swear
I have played a few hundred hours of this game back when and though it is enjoyable for a time, it is also horribly sterile. No project videos (Alpha Centauri), everything is a symbol not a picture and the leaders are manikins. It's a mod for Civ5 sold as a full release.
Energy focus is so overpowered, there is a deal you can make with the AI that also gives you a % energy. then when you are attacked, just buy your way into a huge military
Awww don't give up potato! I'd gladly play with you since i also love this game.
As much as I love to say, "I told you so," I don't like seeing a series end like this.
Back to the past, Potato Jack! See you in the next BE game!
Give it a try. I know it's frustriting, but I tried going full explorer and doing all the exploration sites for the artifacts. Also from playing this game long time, going jets is the way to go. Also some artifact gives you more chance to find more artifacts and some can increase your jet strength. Also with supremacy you can gain coverage from firaxit. Combine it with teleporting satelite, you can have insta-war-win :)
Made me pick the game up again, hope you do another one. This game's a ton of fun.
Here's hoping there's another one. At least so I can indulge this mandela effect where I can swear I've played this before but can't find anything anywhere to substantiate that feeling.
Hear me out. Imagine a technology that the player could research that would be something like “advanced AI” that would give the player better recommendations on what to do or just do some things that require micro-management which takes a lot of time on later stages of the game
When you go about playing BE, 20+ health is useless. You should always be settling cities. The 2 civic paths you use are the military and cultral paths. There is a policy where you get health from units. It's completely bonkers if you have +40 cities pumping out military units
I look forward to your next game!
As a punishment, you must now do another Beyond Earth game!!
i can't remember everything about Beyond Earth but i think you still had a chance: you didn't have to wipe out Elodie, you can just wreck her Beacon, which i think was reachable. i can't be bothered to find the timestamp but i saw a glimpse of it.
We broke him.
Next run when??? Next series? Come on Potato I NEED this
Awkward title misleading of your thoughts you express at end of video of enjoying the game, but apparently not this current save game because you might lose, thus making the game look bad to new people browsing.
Regarding losing, couldn’t you just turn all production to military and rush all units to the opponent?
What about disabling those victory conditions next time. Can role play that even though an opponent accomplishes some grand condition others are still there to compete.
I suppose victory conditions on can be role played to that a grand condition met inspire all nations populations to folllow your rule.
I'd say if you start again, maybe consider NOT being so aggressive with your spies, though also consider a different alignment
much as you know how Harmony works (more then before) I think seeing what Purity and Supremacy do, and perhaps a hybrid of the alignments can do.
Jesus potatoe, why r they declaring war on me , ur stealing from all of them , since u could start , n u keep doing it , over n over , i said this last video , read ur comments
Not sure what I'm doing wrong. When I see the AI just going by it's other enemies with it's navy, leaving itself defenseless, just to attack me across the globe, that's when I usually ragequit. On planets without much water I can hold out longer before I get an entire coalition marching against me, again across the globe and often through or at least by enemy territory.
Too bad I really like the scifi vibe of this game.
I really wish we got a BE2 with civ 6's system. Flying districts and the like
I only ever played the base game of Beyond Earth, I did enjoy it at the time though.
Please do some videos about We The People! I would kill to see you or you AND the yogs play some multiplayer SO BAD!
ps; Civ:BE is a fun game but, man, its rough sometimes.
Well, that was a surprise.
Guys, how did you manage to launch this game, because it doesn't even open every single time I try it! I went to some Steam forums and every solution that I tryed simply does not work!
Some help?
Thanks!
Such clickbait.
Potato please read victory conditions for the next run)1 And also read what ai players like and try to fit in if easy
Hurray more Beyond Earth
Potato, you are a brilliant Civ-player and a great UA-cam creator. That being said, if I found your hand on my wallet, I'd declare war on you too. 🤠😈😇
7:06 is that a tier 3 explorer? How???
Nice video bro
I tried to get it running but the game kept crashing for me. I read that other people had similar problems
weird... i booted it up after seeing Potato's first video and these issues never occured for me. it worked fine
I had the same issue. What fixed it was deleting the contents of the folder in steam and then verifying the game files.
I don't care how you hype beyond earth. In my opinion it absolutely sucks. I gave it a try to the tune of 200 hours plus.
I love how no one even thought of watching the end before typing dumb comments.
I recommmend NOT picking Fungal biome again. It suck!
I had to disable the mind flower win condition because the harmony tech ending is too easy for the AI and they always went that way
I couldn't get through 20h of this game
Please play "Old World"
Its so good.
What I remember HATING about this game was that-- as a build and expand game - you were essentially punished for having more than about 3? 4? settlements. Recall management of Health a chore. One of the few games I truly regret purchasing. Have not touched it in years.
It is one of the few civ games where crazy early expansion doesn't always pay off. Wide is still better than tall, but you need the ability to get a new settlement "up and running." quickly Managing health is similar to managing happiness in Civ V, in many ways.
Several things went wrong here. Constant war is definitely the biggest factor. Potato's first few settlements were in relatively bad locations (should have moved in-land imo) both for yields and defense. Internal trade routes should have been up and running a lot earlier. etc. etc.
Some games just don't pan out. I still feel BE has aged better than Civ V, even though it felt like a Civ V total conversion mod back in the day. Also, I haven't played it in years. Who knows how I will manage after all these years of Civ VI?
Only in the early game. By late game you have infinity health and can cover the whole map in cities.
I feel like unfortunately Potato lost a bunch of cities and spent a lot of production getting them back and settling new ones instead of science buildings and more culture which could get those strong health bonuses through affinity and policy. He was too focused on boosting health at the city level with buildings instead of pushing on and unlocking macro-bonuses, which as you can see, completely flipped the situation and he ended with 50 health. Also he ended up doing so much war that he could have pivoted to military hard and just conquered the continent.
you can have negative health and be just fine it. All it does is lower ing productin and growth, what you don't do is skimping on military that is your number one way to lessen getting wars thrown at you. The second most important thing is paying attention to what opponents do and what their political goals are. If you want to avoid wars with them try to keep 2 of them in the green and DON'T spy on them ( atleast don't get discovered doing it ).
Lastly don't overestimate how resistant to damage your cities are in BE compared to civ 5, civ 6 an army can roll a city in 1-2 turns. Even early game armies of just 2 soldiers and 1-2 rangers can take a city FAST.
Dude I have no idea why everyone hates this game I loves it to death
McWhiskey post! GOGOGOGOGOGO! INSTA VIEW
Ok, genuinely, please make a new playthrough after either loosing or winning this one, i genuinely started to find the game interesting again and i want to see more 🥲❤️