The more we dig, the more interesting the BBPro becomes. A callback to the Rolex 1655 (with some elements of the North Flag in there) Also FIRST in many areas: 39mm GMT, Steel T-Fit Clasp, Ceramic plots on the dial. Where do we think the future of this watch will take it? 🥃
The Pro, is an incredibly piece really. From day 1 to 1.5 year of ownership, can't complain. It is not odd like the P01. Wish they evolve the Pro though by adding crown guards, slimming it, adding a cyclops eye too. Yet, from Tudor, I would expect 2 things only: A. they discontinue it and focus on the other BBs plus Pelagos. B. Add a white dial to the current line and call it a day. Let's see :)
I sold my P01 because of its impractical wearability issues...just too big as a total lug to lug. I loved everything about that watch, its back story, even though it was rejected, its overall look which was totally unique...etc Now all that said, I think you're right about the BB Pro..it would be a shame if it doesn't have a v2 coming soon. Even just a simple diet in its thickness would sway many towards buying it...as far as the alterations you demonstrated in your render, well that would be a bonus if Tudor tweaked it ever so slightly. Excellent video as awlays brother 🥃
Isn't is strange how many Tudor's eventually lose their pull simply because of how strange they feel on the wrist? We're on the same wavelength in all of these departments brother and I hope you've had a stellar weekend! 🥃
As an owner of BB Pro I'd like to express my opinion. I don't mind the thickness, nor the extra yellow text - as it is my daily watch, these both things don't bother me. I love the overall design, the comfort, the monochromatic look, the accuracy, and ligibility - mostly. The yellow GMT hand mixes a bit too much with hour and minute hands, making it a bit less legible that I'd desire. If they made the whole GMT hand black and just left the tip yellow, that would be just perfect. Personally I think the indexes are well proportioned. In addition even though the lume is decent, there are microbrands doing a way better job with luminescence.
My 1st and favorite Tudor. Hoping for a white dial since I’m not getting the call for the Exp II Polar. I’d love to see you mock that up. My AD says the BB Pro sells as fast as they arrive so it would be shocking if they were discontinued. 1-1.5mm thinner would probably make the waits even longer. And love my Steinhart homage to the 1655. Just like everything about it.
As always, well put together thoughts and designs. However, I like the Pro as it is, it just needs slimming down and some curvature to make it less Monoblock, then I'd jump on it! But I can't see Tudor doing anything with it other than bringing out a white dial version to milk this model further, at least for now.
You've Sir created a timeless design of BB Pro! If Tudor would ever consider this, I would take it immediately. Looks much more balanced, I'd dare to say equally charming as 1655
Great perspective on this interesting and unique timepiece. I'm a new owner and a big fan. This has become my daily wearer, replacing all the other pieces. I recommend to try it on before deciding if it's too thick.
It’s also about comparison, this watch is too thick for what Tudor inspires to be. Longings Zulu time 39mm is 1.5mm thinner and cheaper with the same cosc movement. They really have to slim down their gmt watches
Really digging your rendition. I love this piece, I think it could be the foundation of a great two-piece Tudor collection paired with an updated Royal or a new Prince. When, they slim it down, I’ll be all over it. Great video, cheers 🥃
Great video as always. I agree on many things you proposed but not on size of markers and hands ( could be bigger but a bit too big in your design imo ). But until we don't get new thinner GMT movement from Tudor I don't expect any novelties on this model, rather discontinuation
I sold my BB Pro simply because it was too thick and chunky. I still think it looks great, but it feels like you wear a block of metal on your wrist. If they could slim it down to about 12mm, I would immediately buy it again. Wouldn't change much for the rest. Perhaps slightly increase the hour markers, but I wouldn't change the hands. With the two lines of white text and the crown guards, you really seem to be turning it into an Explorer 2.
Black Bay Pro could have been a very good watch if it never had Black Bay name. 200m water res kills the proportion of the watch. 100m res, 2mm thinner, you will have a winner.
This watch was just launched last year and you're already talking about it getting discontinued or overhauled? I don't see any of this happening at all. The only thing I could see Tudor doing is trying to slim it down a bit.
Been wearing the BB Pro almost exclusively for the past 2 months. Gotta admit, as a lover of rather shiny and gaudy watches (love my two tone DJ), the Pro wasn’t love at first sight for me. But my significant other loves so I took the plunge. It’s now my favorite due to its wearability, accuracy and understated handsomeness. I’d buy V2 in a heartbeat if it looked like your rendering.
I’m glad Tudor brought this model out. With the Rolex Explorer 2 long being a favorite of mine, this watch certainly has my attention and I think it is well positioned to incorporate at least some if not all of the changes you mentioned. Tudor is my favorite tool watch brand. 🥃
1. I think the BB Pro is a top 2 tudor watch along with the pelagos. And this is coming from someone who owns the BB GMT pepsi. The Pro has a bit more character than my piece. 2. I dont see them discontinuing the Pro. So much so that i am surprised thats even a question or discussion. I believe the progression is likely to include a white dial, a thinner case, a METAS movement, and maybe a 5 link bracelet. 3. I love three lines of text on tudor dials. I have that on my GMT and its a good use of the space. 2 lines of text creates negative space, which you dont like, so im surprised you suggested that. I dont think enlarging the baton at the 6 is a good enough counter to losing a line of text. 4. I like your idea of enlarging the hour hand. You also mention this suggestion in your longines legend diver video. I cant unsee it now, particularly as a legend diver owner. 5. Youve become one of my favorite watch channels. Keep up the good work.
I really love the design and look of the Tudor BB Pro. As soon as I saw it on the window when I was traveling, it was an immediate purchase. Unfortunately I just sold it after 10 months. The watch is top heavy similarly to the BB GMT. They really should toss out that GMT movement. It’s heavy, thick, and I keep hearing issues of the date issues similar to BB GMT. They just need to make a thinner, lighter movement and add the polar dial. And they have an even bigger sellers. Tudor mentioned that they listen to their customers. I think these comments have been the loudest for this line.
Wow. You nailed it. But until it’s under 12mm thick it will always be a big pass for me. I don’t get it because literally 90% of the complaints about Tudor are thickness (BB58 and 54 excluded). If Tudor looked at any feedback they’d see this. Before they innovate further they should focus on innovating the thickness of their watches. It’s like trying to make sexier lines on a car or create the most amazing 14” screen on the interior or better seats etc when the car still has square wheels. If they can get a hold of the crazy thickness they will have truly entered top-tier in my opinion. That’s why sold my BBGMT and pelagos and why I bought the BB54. It’s perfect.
The original issue with the BB Pro is that it's a slab of a watch, which TBH is often Tudor anyway. I passed on one, but should have purchased when offered and flipped like the P39 and then purchased something truely awesome from my prefered AD.
The BBPro was initially bypassed by me because I thought it was too small and just an unwed Ed iteration of my BBGMT. Boy, was I wrong. I tried it on and it was all over. What a great watch in its own right. Little improvements would be appreciated along with all the lines of black bay. Things I’d like to see, ceramic bezels and crown guards.
I'm a huge Tudor fan. I have the BB Harrods, I have the BB58, the BB Chrono & I have the Palagos 42mm. I've always liked the look of the Pro as its so unique, but I'm waiting on the next reiteration until I pull the trigger. I do think the thickness of the range is not just because of the movement but more so to keep them very separate to Rolex. Because of that I doubt we'll see anything thinner on anything larger than the 54 which doesn't compete with a Rolex due to its case size.
I have multiple Tudors. My Pro is my favorite. Thin the case with the new GMT calibre, give us a black dial and white dial option. Make the GMT hand a true ORANGE snowflake. That’d be perfection. Give us the option of a 5 link, fully brushed with polished sides bracelet, and I’ll buy all 4 variations.
Geez putting it into the Pelagos case is an interesting thought. I think they'd go with a design more closely associated with the current pelagos line up if they did that, but a slimmer and more wearable bb pro is a nice prospect.
I own a BB Pro. My wrist is just under 7 inches. The whole ‘it’s too thick’ narrative is a little laughable actually - it wears like a chunky dive watch - that’s the desired look it’s aiming for, if you don’t like sportier pieces then it’s not for you simply - buy a skin diver (I have an Oris 65 for this type of look and feel). The Pro sits alongside my Willard and CW Trident 600 as a more rugged/purposeful watch in my collection. I honestly worry about people’s state of mind (or general physical capabilities) when they say it’s not wearable all day due to thickness and heft. It’s no less wearable or noticeable on my wrist all day than my Cartier Santos or even my MoonSwatch! ‘Shave 3mm off and I’ll open my wallet’. No. Go buy a BB54 instead if that what you want. Or A Longines Zulu GMT. It’s like saying - make the Seiko Arnie 37mm and I’ll buy it. Then it’s not an Arnie.
Anyone who actually wears a watch for sport would realise pretty quickly a smaller thinner watch makes a lot more sense. My sub is my daily, but my Explorer 36 is my sports watch. Wearing my sub while playing tennis, climbing, hiking, running, skydiving etc is uncomfortable and clunky. “Sports” watch should be tiny and thin so it doesn’t snag and get in the way.
I 100% agree with you, it’s a brilliant watch that is not too thick, it’s a load of internet nonsense. People are expecting a Rolex Explorer 2 for a third of the money, it’s totally unrealistic. The Pro is my most worn watch and I have a large collection of Rolex’s.
Hope that the Black Bay Pro has plenty of mileage ahead of it. A fantastic reinterpretation for a Mk2.0 but feel a 5 link bracelet would detract from the ruggedness of the tool watch design. White Dial is surely the best way forward. Shame as much as I like the Pro 41mm is my Nirvana.
The design is sublime. Mine is a 5 year old 42mm, ETA 2893-2 Steinhart with faux patina. I love it to death. I really put it through its paces down here in South Florida.
My thoughts exactly! Had a whole section on a white dial that I removed to streamline the clip a bit 😆 A white dial feels more like the natural progression at the moment, right? 🥃
What thinner than the Rolex Explorer 2 which costs nearly three times as much, that’s not going to happen nor is it viable, I doubt, for a watch in this price category?
@@Anonymouslyme1first of all, the Rolex Explorer 2 is an icon and can be had max 3 month wait list for someone with no history, let’s be real Tudor are Rolex Homages for people like you with no money to say your watch is almost as good and does same thing. If money is an issue get Seiko 5 GMT
I don’t care where they are going with the bb. Most Tudor watches to me have something not quite right, I think my brain always tells me it’s a slightly cheaper Tag H esk like copy. Anything that needs David Beckham to sell for you is not something I need.Good things sell themselves. And nothing really other than the fxd is exciting to me. Sorry I’m that out today😂. Good video as always. Love watching.
Hate to say it, but the FXD still is the only Tudor I really want to own... and I'm kinda torn with the BB (for many reasons) so I 100% know how you feel 😉
I miss the Tudor North Flag days of uniqueness, which the P01 also inherited and reminds us of the Heritage Advisor Chronograph period of Tudor's resurgence. Unfortunately, Tudor are now being too safe, pivoting on just their popular models. I adore my North Flag, and still foolishly hope for a new update with a METAS calibre...
I also would like Tudor to take more risks. They are advertising themselves as a bold brand, "born to dare", but they put out 50 versions of a black dial black bay without batting an eyelid. They are pretty boring through and through
I bought the Pro in March but even with a 8" wrist, the thickness felt excessive. More the design of the side of the case than the actual thickness. I have a 16600 SD that feels more proportionate. Do the Pro with a 3-part case and flat crystal and I think it could feel much thinner
It's a real pity that a great watch can be marred by it's thickness. It's something that's definitely hurting how many of these watches are seen (and I'm sure Tudor know it) Also... the 16600 was the SD I first fell in love with. Such an under the radar gem... I need to spotlight this ref and the SD4k. Amazing pieces 🥃
@@ID-Guy oh mate, I loved your SD videos and you briefly touched on the 16600, but a full video would be amazing. Imho the swan song of 'tool-watch' Rolex.
Love the redesign. I’d add one more slight change - make the GMT hand bit more ‘orange’. I owned the BB Pro and one of weird quirks I found is upon quick glance and in certain lights, the GMT hand would be a very similar colour to the other hands and so it would be very jarring. A slightly stronger ‘orange’ would be perfect IMO.
I am a watch collector who likes Explorer 2 watches. As a result, I have to purchase the legacy Explorer 2 which is Tudor BB Pro as well as the modern Explorer 2. Both Explorer 2 are attractive to me than GMT. I am preparing to replace the stainless bracelet with Tudor original rubber strap which is from a Pelagos.
Agreed. I bought the pro to give it a try, and now I have to remember to wind all the other watches in my watch box because they rarely get any wrist time. How surprising that the imperfect Pro has so much indescribable charm
Its definitely going to happen (had an entire section on a white dial that I cut to make it a bit more streamlined) - the white dial will be the last addition for this generation before moving to the next 😉
As always another great video. Oddly enough the BBPro never struck the bell for me. With that said, GMT's are not on my radar. It's a wonderful complication, and maybe if I traveled more it would mean more. Honestly If I was travelling across time zones, I would just look at my Iphone ( Blasphemy... I know !?! ) Yes, Tudor does have the "Slab of Steel" problem, and although I never consider myself suave or debonair I do find chunky watches less appealing. I feel the BBPro is just another reaction to what the market is producing. You can't buy an Explorer 2, so Tudor will fill that gap, and why not ? They are in business to make watches to sell. Tudor will continue to benefit, I.E. build gap watches, due to the blackhole known as Rolex. I love Rolex, I feel they are genius, probably the greatest marketing ever. I also love Tudor, seizing an opportunity that is evident. Great management on both sides.
Agree with a white dial in some of the comments. The Pepsi opaline GMT Tudor is fantastic. That model and the Black Bay Pro are both thick watches. Need to get it on my wrist to see if it is worth it.
I'd even say, maybe a simple straight seconds hand (like the earliest 1655 Exp 2's) to clean up the dial even more. So many great options to work with here! Love it 🥃@@rolandvaneijk
Hope you're still having a killer time with your IWC. Man, this years collecting journey for me has been madness... when the collection review happens at the start of next year...
@@ID-Guy absolutely...its in a service at the moment though... and I borrowed a CWC G10 to wear in the mean time.. And it has me thinking... they have the G22 auto with date and Mellor.. I love the hesalite, the fixed lugs, the 36mm sizes.. man I'm considering the unspoken deed.... Can I really just have a CWC and call it a day for a while? I don't know I look forward to your collection vid
I do like this line of watch but your improvements are absolutely perfect. Indeed, I would like it slimmer as most others would, but I would buy your version with the 5 link and date window outline. I would experiment with outlined hour and minute hands like the 1655. Something tells me that last bit would give it everything.
Man, there are so many great avenues they could explore with these (I should've spent more time on - but weekly uploads there's a limit 😆) From the choice of handsets, plots on the dials, proportions in general. So, so many options! Thanks for this Scott 🥃
I bet that even keeping the thickness, the caseband could be rounded off or beveled in a way that hid that thickness. Id sacrifice 100m of water resistance for that. The speedy is pretty thick but the way the case is shaped hides that pretty well, so I'd start with that
Hopefully they won't release a polar white dial version, but an off white, eggshell color dial would be amazing, especially if the whole dial was made of luminous ceramic, like the indexes of the current model.
I’d take it a step further and I’d be interested to see a Pelagos GMT. Titanium case and bracelet, and the pelagos dial with the square indices. I almost think that would look better.
A top and bottom chamfer on the currently slab sided case, would go a long way to ease the fat aesthetic? I own the Pro and I really enjoy wearing it….but just a tweak on the slab sides would make this a perfect tool watch
Love these videos, and I love that watch, thank you! What are your thoughts on drilled lugs? Do you think they're a thing of the past? I love the Explorer II era of drilled lugs where it still felt like a legit tool watch. I always wonder if they'll make a comeback.
Must say, having just bought a beautiful, stunning watch (that'll probably be reviewed next week) I had forgotten how fantastic drilled lugs are... they do feel like a thing of the past with modern Rolex, Tudor & Omega. It's almost like they don't want to be viewed "that way" right? Odd 🥃
I like what you did with your interpretation of the gmt. But with the date you left it wanting. 6 beefed up. 9 beefed up. 12o’clocked beefed up. 3 o’clock ignored.
Come to think of it ..... When does your first watch come out? Can I pre-order? You must be thinking of it. Then there's the moving bezel on a GMT. Rolex doesn't print an additional 24h scale on its dials like many other manufacturers do so using the GMT function in a quick glance prohibits moving the bezel because one needs the 24h scale there to be able to read a second time zone. Nobody can read time in a glance just imagining the 24h scale where it's not.
I was on a chat with Tudor when the new white faced GMT came out and I jokingly asked when we will see a BB Pro Polar edition ... A simple answer was returned ... "Just wait". With that said, I think the next step for this watch will be a white dial alternative along with a choice of the oyster style vs 5 link style bracelet. Great content, it has become a Saturday morning tradition to watch your videos over a coffee. Thank you!
Always a pleasure to share these Jason and thank you! The white dial alternative does feel like the natural next step, right? It'll happen sooner than we thing 😉
I had this watch, but sold it because I couldn't get used to three moving snow flakes on the dial. Checking time at a glance was problematic for me. I like your mods, but it needs to loose the snow flake on the seconds hand. Respectfully.
The Black Bay Pro is consistent with Tudor's design straregy (?) of the time; a re-hash of original Rolex versions. I always like your takes on different watch designs. My personal preference would have been to leave the dial alone, I thought the proportions were good. Would have loved to see some different colours, maybe white or blue. A white dial version will likely no be made, but would have been neat to see all the same. Always enjoy your videos. Thank you again.
Hey! great video.Thanks! I got the pro 4 weeks ago. On steel. And I am still not wearing it (except 2 times) cause not sure if I want to keep it. And the reason is the "thickness". But just to be clear: not cause it’s to heavy or unbalanced. Not at all. This would be ridiculous, but really because of it’s appearance/ side look. Additionally (and here I would love to hear your POV) I believe that Tudor will work on it and get soon out (2024) with a much thinner as well as an opal one (the rivets will stay, I am sure). And in this case the “old” ones will lose a lot of value. Of course. Just a little final remark on the overall look of the watch and my feeling while wearing it: As I said, I got this piece 2 times on my wrist and I was all the time looking at like you’re look something you love in and out. So this is my dilemma: Sell or keep?!
The BB Pro is a watch I continue to enjoy more and more over time. Funny you cited the Rolex Air King in your video because I also own that watch and I guess it says I love quirky, niche design. The BB Pro, while thick, is just a fun watch. The dial and handset are unique and the domed sapphire give it a warm charm. I really enjoy the brushed top bezel and polished underside to give the watch a bit of a flash/flair. The 39mm platform is great and the bracelet is all that you can ask for. To me it's a watch that appeals to me in many ways, with all it's quirkiness and gives me something non-ubiquitous every time I look at my wrist.
The black bay pro is really a sexy watch, the size and the colour.. know Tudor should make it in a white dial and orange hand. Make it a bit thinner and you have a winner…. I have the black bay pro and you don’t notice the thickness. I’am a big guy… Tudor make it in a white dial I’ll be at the dealer. Keep the size 39 mm is the size right know to me… 👍 god dame it’s a good looking watch. Look out Rolex…39 mm just saying. 🙏
Great, compelling take and vid. i hope you are right, that it stays around. I would like to see a thinner movement/watch, not so sure I agree re: the 12, 6 and 9. I would meet you half way there. Have the heritage red bb, and heritage bb58. Would not want the pro in titanium, unless grade 5. Def needs to be all brushed, maybe with some chamfered polishing. That’s my two cents anyway. Cheers!
Owned a BB Pro and recently sold it after wearing it only once or twice. I wanted so desperately to love this watch and make it daily wearer but could not get over the thickness. Tudor could've have done so much more with the case design to hide this. I could care less about their "in-house" caliber and I would've easily taken a generic GMT movement if it meant a thinner profile. I have little hope they will offer a redesign in the future.
Hey man. Don't really have to comment anything at this point. Just getting the algorithm running I guess. Nothing but praise from my end for your videos. Take care and best wishes.
id love Tudor to improve its GMT and the thickness. Rolex GMT 2 is my grail... but I am afraid it will have to wait. I said ill buy it only once I reach a certain professional level. So this would be perfect and I think it would be perfect for many people. Tudor is doing a great job in so many ways they just need to add this too
Great critique and video. I really like the BB Pro trying it on but the BB GMT felt better proportioned and less too heavy. I’d love to see the Pro as-is but thinner and with a white dial option. The other home run that would be available here: BB58 GMT with Diet Coke bezel configuration.
I didn't even know this existed! Definitely some details to unpack (looks like a larger BB54 in a lot of ways) - might do a render video in a few weeks around it! Thank you for bringing it to my attention brother! 🥃
Big fan of this watch - it's on my shopping list for next year ... maybe. Depends how they refine it. One thing I've learned about Tudor: don't necessarily buy the first iteration of a new ref - with a few exceptions (FXD and PO1) they always improve 'em. I was pleasantly surprised by how the Pro wears, I'm not a fan of deep watches, at all - but it's good on wrist. I don't really get why the brands GMT mov't is so thick - even 3rd party mov't manufactures like SoProd can pack the same features (bar independent hour hand movement) into their GMT movements, even some sub $1K microbrands are making 12mm GMT watches - personally I'd sacrifice some WR 𝙖𝙣𝙙 the travel GMT function for less depth. I'd really like Tudor to bang out a 'Root-Beer' version of the pro - brown dial, Gold capped bezel and solid gold crown and centre (Jubilee) bracelet links - I reckon that'd work well. ☻
Excellent thanks. My question .. could Tudor roll out a white dial variant, or indeed should they do so? I would jump on one with your concept hand size and a big black triangle at 12 :@)
I feel the white dial is inevitable at this point (had a whole section in the video that I cut out to keep it a bit more coherent) - and at that point, I don't feel it has to do with "integrity" of the design or whatever else, it's more to do with selling more models - especially if this generation of the Pro will soon be obsolete 😉
I think if they slim down that movement, they will definitely have my money, I love that design its just to thick mind you. I have never handled it, so
This made me realize how much I want a 1655. Love the edit too though for me the batons are too big. Date window frame is an excellent idea. When are they going to hire you?
The more we dig, the more interesting the BBPro becomes. A callback to the Rolex 1655 (with some elements of the North Flag in there)
Also FIRST in many areas: 39mm GMT, Steel T-Fit Clasp, Ceramic plots on the dial. Where do we think the future of this watch will take it? 🥃
The Pro, is an incredibly piece really. From day 1 to 1.5 year of ownership, can't complain. It is not odd like the P01. Wish they evolve the Pro though by adding crown guards, slimming it, adding a cyclops eye too. Yet, from Tudor, I would expect 2 things only: A. they discontinue it and focus on the other BBs plus Pelagos. B. Add a white dial to the current line and call it a day.
Let's see :)
Love this!!!! As a bigger guy, the 39mm is just too small. Would love a 41 or 42!
@@emmanueltsI5what you want a revival of the explorer 1655, Tudor cannot do that or they'll be competing with the big brother
I sold my P01 because of its impractical wearability issues...just too big as a total lug to lug. I loved everything about that watch, its back story, even though it was rejected, its overall look which was totally unique...etc
Now all that said, I think you're right about the BB Pro..it would be a shame if it doesn't have a v2 coming soon.
Even just a simple diet in its thickness would sway many towards buying it...as far as the alterations you demonstrated in your render, well that would be a bonus if Tudor tweaked it ever so slightly.
Excellent video as awlays brother 🥃
Isn't is strange how many Tudor's eventually lose their pull simply because of how strange they feel on the wrist? We're on the same wavelength in all of these departments brother and I hope you've had a stellar weekend! 🥃
Nice suggestions. I just wish they’d called it something different…Ranger Pro makes so much more sense
Must say (should've mentioned it) the name "pro" is sort of what? iPhone Pro Max X...
As an owner of BB Pro I'd like to express my opinion. I don't mind the thickness, nor the extra yellow text - as it is my daily watch, these both things don't bother me. I love the overall design, the comfort, the monochromatic look, the accuracy, and ligibility - mostly. The yellow GMT hand mixes a bit too much with hour and minute hands, making it a bit less legible that I'd desire. If they made the whole GMT hand black and just left the tip yellow, that would be just perfect. Personally I think the indexes are well proportioned. In addition even though the lume is decent, there are microbrands doing a way better job with luminescence.
My 1st and favorite Tudor. Hoping for a white dial since I’m not getting the call for the Exp II Polar. I’d love to see you mock that up. My AD says the BB Pro sells as fast as they arrive so it would be shocking if they were discontinued. 1-1.5mm thinner would probably make the waits even longer.
And love my Steinhart homage to the 1655. Just like everything about it.
Show me a Black Bay Pro with a white dial and I'll show you my credit card 💸💸💸
I was considering doing a white dial (but ran out of time) - these weekly videos man 😆 Agreed though! A white dial would spice up this range nicely!
A polar BB Pro with an orange GMT hand yes please!
show me a black bay pro that doesn't have the thickness of the hunchback of notre dame and I'll show you my credit card.
Id take a matte british racing green dial tho, but to be fair I already have a polar exp2
I personally can't stand white dials. Legibility is terrible unless they have black outlines on indices and hands, and then they are too stormtrooper.
My black bay pro gets the most wrist time great watch
Maybe they should hire you.
Your suggestions always look better.
As always, well put together thoughts and designs. However, I like the Pro as it is, it just needs slimming down and some curvature to make it less Monoblock, then I'd jump on it! But I can't see Tudor doing anything with it other than bringing out a white dial version to milk this model further, at least for now.
If the BB pro was 2 to 3mm thinner i would be all over it.
Well said Mark. Until this new GMT movement is launched, we'll be expecting a colour change, maybe a slight touch up on the dial 🥃
They have to do it after what we've seen launched this year, right? 🥃@@HRM.H
You've Sir created a timeless design of BB Pro! If Tudor would ever consider this, I would take it immediately. Looks much more balanced, I'd dare to say equally charming as 1655
Great perspective on this interesting and unique timepiece. I'm a new owner and a big fan. This has become my daily wearer, replacing all the other pieces. I recommend to try it on before deciding if it's too thick.
Great video. I would like to see a thicker minute hand. Sometimes I get the GMT and minute hand mixed up at a quick glance.
It’s also about comparison, this watch is too thick for what Tudor inspires to be. Longings Zulu time 39mm is 1.5mm thinner and cheaper with the same cosc movement. They really have to slim down their gmt watches
Really digging your rendition. I love this piece, I think it could be the foundation of a great two-piece Tudor collection paired with an updated Royal or a new Prince. When, they slim it down, I’ll be all over it. Great video, cheers 🥃
It's will be interesting to see your thoughts on Breitling new Avenger re design
First impressions when seeing them: really liking the streamlining! I’m going to look into them more over the weekend 😉🥃
Great video as always. I agree on many things you proposed but not on size of markers and hands ( could be bigger but a bit too big in your design imo ). But until we don't get new thinner GMT movement from Tudor I don't expect any novelties on this model, rather discontinuation
I sold my BB Pro simply because it was too thick and chunky. I still think it looks great, but it feels like you wear a block of metal on your wrist. If they could slim it down to about 12mm, I would immediately buy it again. Wouldn't change much for the rest. Perhaps slightly increase the hour markers, but I wouldn't change the hands. With the two lines of white text and the crown guards, you really seem to be turning it into an Explorer 2.
A METAS certification and a case thickness below 13mm would do it for me, thanks.
Black Bay Pro could have been a very good watch if it never had Black Bay name. 200m water res kills the proportion of the watch. 100m res, 2mm thinner, you will have a winner.
This watch was just launched last year and you're already talking about it getting discontinued or overhauled? I don't see any of this happening at all. The only thing I could see Tudor doing is trying to slim it down a bit.
I agree, they won’t update the design for 4-5 years at least
Been wearing the BB Pro almost exclusively for the past 2 months. Gotta admit, as a lover of rather shiny and gaudy watches (love my two tone DJ), the Pro wasn’t love at first sight for me. But my significant other loves so I took the plunge. It’s now my favorite due to its wearability, accuracy and understated handsomeness. I’d buy V2 in a heartbeat if it looked like your rendering.
I’m glad Tudor brought this model out. With the Rolex Explorer 2 long being a favorite of mine, this watch certainly has my attention and I think it is well positioned to incorporate at least some if not all of the changes you mentioned. Tudor is my favorite tool watch brand. 🥃
Also, I spotted your wonderful choice of literature as a backdrop; The Lord of the Rings by J. R. R. Tolkien! 📖
1. I think the BB Pro is a top 2 tudor watch along with the pelagos. And this is coming from someone who owns the BB GMT pepsi. The Pro has a bit more character than my piece.
2. I dont see them discontinuing the Pro. So much so that i am surprised thats even a question or discussion. I believe the progression is likely to include a white dial, a thinner case, a METAS movement, and maybe a 5 link bracelet.
3. I love three lines of text on tudor dials. I have that on my GMT and its a good use of the space. 2 lines of text creates negative space, which you dont like, so im surprised you suggested that. I dont think enlarging the baton at the 6 is a good enough counter to losing a line of text.
4. I like your idea of enlarging the hour hand. You also mention this suggestion in your longines legend diver video. I cant unsee it now, particularly as a legend diver owner.
5. Youve become one of my favorite watch channels. Keep up the good work.
I really love the design and look of the Tudor BB Pro. As soon as I saw it on the window when I was traveling, it was an immediate purchase. Unfortunately I just sold it after 10 months. The watch is top heavy similarly to the BB GMT. They really should toss out that GMT movement. It’s heavy, thick, and I keep hearing issues of the date issues similar to BB GMT.
They just need to make a thinner, lighter movement and add the polar dial. And they have an even bigger sellers. Tudor mentioned that they listen to their customers. I think these comments have been the loudest for this line.
Wow. You nailed it.
But until it’s under 12mm thick it will always be a big pass for me. I don’t get it because literally 90% of the complaints about Tudor are thickness (BB58 and 54 excluded). If Tudor looked at any feedback they’d see this. Before they innovate further they should focus on innovating the thickness of their watches. It’s like trying to make sexier lines on a car or create the most amazing 14” screen on the interior or better seats etc when the car still has square wheels.
If they can get a hold of the crazy thickness they will have truly entered top-tier in my opinion.
That’s why sold my BBGMT and pelagos and why I bought the BB54. It’s perfect.
The original issue with the BB Pro is that it's a slab of a watch, which TBH is often Tudor anyway. I passed on one, but should have purchased when offered and flipped like the P39 and then purchased something truely awesome from my prefered AD.
The BBPro was initially bypassed by me because I thought it was too small and just an unwed Ed iteration of my BBGMT. Boy, was I wrong. I tried it on and it was all over. What a great watch in its own right. Little improvements would be appreciated along with all the lines of black bay. Things I’d like to see, ceramic bezels and crown guards.
A Black Bay Pro using the Pelagos Alingi racing 42mm case. Just imagine that yellow GMT hand encased in that matt black cabon case will stand out!
Love this idea brother! 🥃
I'm a huge Tudor fan. I have the BB Harrods, I have the BB58, the BB Chrono & I have the Palagos 42mm. I've always liked the look of the Pro as its so unique, but I'm waiting on the next reiteration until I pull the trigger. I do think the thickness of the range is not just because of the movement but more so to keep them very separate to Rolex. Because of that I doubt we'll see anything thinner on anything larger than the 54 which doesn't compete with a Rolex due to its case size.
They’re gonna have to with competitors upping their game
I have multiple Tudors. My Pro is my favorite.
Thin the case with the new GMT calibre, give us a black dial and white dial option. Make the GMT hand a true ORANGE snowflake.
That’d be perfection.
Give us the option of a 5 link, fully brushed with polished sides bracelet, and I’ll buy all 4 variations.
Geez putting it into the Pelagos case is an interesting thought. I think they'd go with a design more closely associated with the current pelagos line up if they did that, but a slimmer and more wearable bb pro is a nice prospect.
a white dial version seems like the obvious next model...
I own a BB Pro. My wrist is just under 7 inches. The whole ‘it’s too thick’ narrative is a little laughable actually - it wears like a chunky dive watch - that’s the desired look it’s aiming for, if you don’t like sportier pieces then it’s not for you simply - buy a skin diver (I have an Oris 65 for this type of look and feel). The Pro sits alongside my Willard and CW Trident 600 as a more rugged/purposeful watch in my collection. I honestly worry about people’s state of mind (or general physical capabilities) when they say it’s not wearable all day due to thickness and heft. It’s no less wearable or noticeable on my wrist all day than my Cartier Santos or even my MoonSwatch!
‘Shave 3mm off and I’ll open my wallet’. No. Go buy a BB54 instead if that what you want. Or A Longines Zulu GMT. It’s like saying - make the Seiko Arnie 37mm and I’ll buy it. Then it’s not an Arnie.
Anyone who actually wears a watch for sport would realise pretty quickly a smaller thinner watch makes a lot more sense. My sub is my daily, but my Explorer 36 is my sports watch. Wearing my sub while playing tennis, climbing, hiking, running, skydiving etc is uncomfortable and clunky. “Sports” watch should be tiny and thin so it doesn’t snag and get in the way.
I 100% agree with you, it’s a brilliant watch that is not too thick, it’s a load of internet nonsense. People are expecting a Rolex Explorer 2 for a third of the money, it’s totally unrealistic. The Pro is my most worn watch and I have a large collection of Rolex’s.
i think less text and thinner is all that's needed. i would consider buying one then
Hope that the Black Bay Pro has plenty of mileage ahead of it. A fantastic reinterpretation for a Mk2.0 but feel a 5 link bracelet would detract from the ruggedness of the tool watch design. White Dial is surely the best way forward. Shame as much as I like the Pro 41mm is my Nirvana.
The design is sublime. Mine is a 5 year old 42mm, ETA 2893-2 Steinhart with faux patina. I love it to death. I really put it through its paces down here in South Florida.
Great video brother, I think also a slimmer profile and a titanium case and bracelet with a white cleaner dial, that would be a hit 👍🏽👍🏽
My thoughts exactly! Had a whole section on a white dial that I removed to streamline the clip a bit 😆 A white dial feels more like the natural progression at the moment, right? 🥃
@@ID-Guy Exactly 😁👍🏽
Black bay pro at 12mm is pure perfection!
What thinner than the Rolex Explorer 2 which costs nearly three times as much, that’s not going to happen nor is it viable, I doubt, for a watch in this price category?
@@Anonymouslyme1first of all, the Rolex Explorer 2 is an icon and can be had max 3 month wait list for someone with no history, let’s be real Tudor are Rolex Homages for people like you with no money to say your watch is almost as good and does same thing. If money is an issue get Seiko 5 GMT
I don’t care where they are going with the bb. Most Tudor watches to me have something not quite right, I think my brain always tells me it’s a slightly cheaper Tag H esk like copy. Anything that needs David Beckham to sell for you is not something I need.Good things sell themselves. And nothing really other than the fxd is exciting to me. Sorry I’m that out today😂. Good video as always. Love watching.
bb = big beautiful ?
Hate to say it, but the FXD still is the only Tudor I really want to own... and I'm kinda torn with the BB (for many reasons) so I 100% know how you feel 😉
I miss the Tudor North Flag days of uniqueness, which the P01 also inherited and reminds us of the Heritage Advisor Chronograph period of Tudor's resurgence. Unfortunately, Tudor are now being too safe, pivoting on just their popular models.
I adore my North Flag, and still foolishly hope for a new update with a METAS calibre...
I also would like Tudor to take more risks. They are advertising themselves as a bold brand, "born to dare", but they put out 50 versions of a black dial black bay without batting an eyelid. They are pretty boring through and through
I bought the Pro in March but even with a 8" wrist, the thickness felt excessive. More the design of the side of the case than the actual thickness. I have a 16600 SD that feels more proportionate.
Do the Pro with a 3-part case and flat crystal and I think it could feel much thinner
It's a real pity that a great watch can be marred by it's thickness. It's something that's definitely hurting how many of these watches are seen (and I'm sure Tudor know it) Also... the 16600 was the SD I first fell in love with. Such an under the radar gem... I need to spotlight this ref and the SD4k. Amazing pieces 🥃
@@ID-Guy oh mate, I loved your SD videos and you briefly touched on the 16600, but a full video would be amazing. Imho the swan song of 'tool-watch' Rolex.
Love the redesign. I’d add one more slight change - make the GMT hand bit more ‘orange’. I owned the BB Pro and one of weird quirks I found is upon quick glance and in certain lights, the GMT hand would be a very similar colour to the other hands and so it would be very jarring. A slightly stronger ‘orange’ would be perfect IMO.
Tudor desperately needs a slimmer GMT movement. I bought a Black Bay GMT that I love, but I’ll have to sell because it’s so darn heavy.
I am a watch collector who likes Explorer 2 watches. As a result, I have to purchase the legacy Explorer 2 which is Tudor BB Pro as well as the modern Explorer 2. Both Explorer 2 are attractive to me than GMT. I am preparing to replace the stainless bracelet with Tudor original rubber strap which is from a Pelagos.
This would be a great BBP, nice upgrade!
Some very "unlikely" ideas to put into the BB (crown guards etc) but hey, we can dream 😉
I love mine it's killed my collection , one and done.
I have the BB Pro, P39, and BB GMT Opaline - and the Pro gets the most wear. But I’d buy the white dial if they come out with it in a heartbeat.
@@WestCoastAce27 white dial would be great.
Agreed. I bought the pro to give it a try, and now I have to remember to wind all the other watches in my watch box because they rarely get any wrist time. How surprising that the imperfect Pro has so much indescribable charm
It seems like a release of a white ‘polar’ dial for this model would be a no-brainer.
Its definitely going to happen (had an entire section on a white dial that I cut to make it a bit more streamlined) - the white dial will be the last addition for this generation before moving to the next 😉
The BB Pro is with out a doubt my next watch. I’ve loved it since I first tried it on.
its just too thick.Beautiful otherwise
@@steelsteez6118 agreed, thankfully I have tricked myself into seeing it otherwise.. who knows, they might slim it down by the time I’ll buy it!
As always another great video.
Oddly enough the BBPro never struck the bell for me. With that said, GMT's are not on my radar. It's a wonderful complication, and maybe if I traveled more it would mean more. Honestly If I was travelling across time zones, I would just look at my Iphone ( Blasphemy... I know !?! )
Yes, Tudor does have the "Slab of Steel" problem, and although I never consider myself suave or debonair I do find chunky watches less appealing. I feel the BBPro is just another reaction to what the market is producing. You can't buy an Explorer 2, so Tudor will fill that gap, and why not ? They are in business to make watches to sell. Tudor will continue to benefit, I.E. build gap watches, due to the blackhole known as Rolex.
I love Rolex, I feel they are genius, probably the greatest marketing ever.
I also love Tudor, seizing an opportunity that is evident.
Great management on both sides.
Agree with a white dial in some of the comments. The Pepsi opaline GMT Tudor is fantastic. That model and the Black Bay Pro are both thick watches. Need to get it on my wrist to see if it is worth it.
still deciding between this one and the bb58
Tudor will keep it simple I think: thinner, slight profile to the case flanks and a white dial variant.
Agreed, and the white dial will absolutely make a mark soon enough for them in this collection 🥃
Add the five-link bracelet and lollipop secondhand and they’re there: perfection.
I'd even say, maybe a simple straight seconds hand (like the earliest 1655 Exp 2's) to clean up the dial even more. So many great options to work with here! Love it 🥃@@rolandvaneijk
BB 41 w anthracite dial is their lushest, most beautiful piece they carry..love it on
Another great redesign. Well done
Hope you're still having a killer time with your IWC. Man, this years collecting journey for me has been madness... when the collection review happens at the start of next year...
@@ID-Guy absolutely...its in a service at the moment though... and I borrowed a CWC G10 to wear in the mean time..
And it has me thinking... they have the G22 auto with date and Mellor..
I love the hesalite, the fixed lugs, the 36mm sizes.. man I'm considering the unspoken deed....
Can I really just have a CWC and call it a day for a while?
I don't know
I look forward to your collection vid
Great iteration! They defo need a white dial version with your tweaks. Titanium would be epic and differentiated.
I do like this line of watch but your improvements are absolutely perfect. Indeed, I would like it slimmer as most others would, but I would buy your version with the 5 link and date window outline. I would experiment with outlined hour and minute hands like the 1655. Something tells me that last bit would give it everything.
Man, there are so many great avenues they could explore with these (I should've spent more time on - but weekly uploads there's a limit 😆) From the choice of handsets, plots on the dials, proportions in general. So, so many options! Thanks for this Scott 🥃
I bet that even keeping the thickness, the caseband could be rounded off or beveled in a way that hid that thickness. Id sacrifice 100m of water resistance for that. The speedy is pretty thick but the way the case is shaped hides that pretty well, so I'd start with that
The Tudor Ranger did not replace the North Flag . It ran concurrently with it. The Ranger replaced the heritage Ranger.
Hopefully they won't release a polar white dial version, but an off white, eggshell color dial would be amazing, especially if the whole dial was made of luminous ceramic, like the indexes of the current model.
If the GMT hand was blue it would be fine. The yellow hand is too close in color to the white hands for me.
I’d take it a step further and I’d be interested to see a Pelagos GMT. Titanium case and bracelet, and the pelagos dial with the square indices. I almost think that would look better.
A top and bottom chamfer on the currently slab sided case, would go a long way to ease the fat aesthetic? I own the Pro and I really enjoy wearing it….but just a tweak on the slab sides would make this a perfect tool watch
Love these videos, and I love that watch, thank you! What are your thoughts on drilled lugs? Do you think they're a thing of the past? I love the Explorer II era of drilled lugs where it still felt like a legit tool watch. I always wonder if they'll make a comeback.
Must say, having just bought a beautiful, stunning watch (that'll probably be reviewed next week) I had forgotten how fantastic drilled lugs are... they do feel like a thing of the past with modern Rolex, Tudor & Omega. It's almost like they don't want to be viewed "that way" right? Odd 🥃
I like what you did with your interpretation of the gmt. But with the date you left it wanting. 6 beefed up. 9 beefed up. 12o’clocked beefed up. 3 o’clock ignored.
Come to think of it ..... When does your first watch come out? Can I pre-order? You must be thinking of it. Then there's the moving bezel on a GMT. Rolex doesn't print an additional 24h scale on its dials like many other manufacturers do so using the GMT function in a quick glance prohibits moving the bezel because one needs the 24h scale there to be able to read a second time zone. Nobody can read time in a glance just imagining the 24h scale where it's not.
I would like a 40/41mm (titanium) Pelagos GMT, with sunburst ‘39 style black and blue bezel and 47/48 lug to lug please 😍
Man, that would be killer!! 🔥
I was on a chat with Tudor when the new white faced GMT came out and I jokingly asked when we will see a BB Pro Polar edition ... A simple answer was returned ... "Just wait". With that said, I think the next step for this watch will be a white dial alternative along with a choice of the oyster style vs 5 link style bracelet. Great content, it has become a Saturday morning tradition to watch your videos over a coffee. Thank you!
Always a pleasure to share these Jason and thank you! The white dial alternative does feel like the natural next step, right? It'll happen sooner than we thing 😉
Would love it at 13mm or thinner at a white dial
I'd rather see this model as a Pelagos than a Black Bay. Good video, thanks.
I always think pure white dial watches like these look cheap. Off-white/cream would look nice, I think.
It's one area that's woefully ignored, cream dials would offer so much more "depth" to a model - agree 100% 🥃
Would love to see a mock-up of a BB Pro with a white dial. First class content as always.
I had this watch, but sold it because I couldn't get used to three moving snow flakes on the dial. Checking time at a glance was problematic for me. I like your mods, but it needs to loose the snow flake on the seconds hand. Respectfully.
Excellent!
The Black Bay Pro is consistent with Tudor's design straregy (?) of the time; a re-hash of original Rolex versions.
I always like your takes on different watch designs. My personal preference would have been to leave the dial alone, I thought the proportions were good. Would have loved to see some different colours, maybe white or blue. A white dial version will likely no be made, but would have been neat to see all the same.
Always enjoy your videos. Thank you again.
Hey! great video.Thanks!
I got the pro 4 weeks ago. On steel. And I am still not wearing it (except 2 times) cause not sure if I want to keep it. And the reason is the "thickness". But just to be clear: not cause it’s to heavy or unbalanced. Not at all. This would be ridiculous, but really because of it’s appearance/ side look.
Additionally (and here I would love to hear your POV) I believe that Tudor will work on it and get soon out (2024) with a much thinner as well as an opal one (the rivets will stay, I am sure). And in this case the “old” ones will lose a lot of value. Of course.
Just a little final remark on the overall look of the watch and my feeling while wearing it:
As I said, I got this piece 2 times on my wrist and I was all the time looking at like you’re look something you love in and out. So this is my dilemma: Sell or keep?!
I am actually deciding on the BBP or the Omega broad arrow 1957 now … decision decision 🤔
I'd always say Omega Broad Arrow given the choices... but maybe I'm the wrong person to ask 😉
@@ID-Guy yea I am thinking the same thing as well since I already have a sub and I just love the 3313 movement 🤩
Your edits are dope man 🥂
Love your content … greetings
The BB Pro is a watch I continue to enjoy more and more over time. Funny you cited the Rolex Air King in your video because I also own that watch and I guess it says I love quirky, niche design. The BB Pro, while thick, is just a fun watch. The dial and handset are unique and the domed sapphire give it a warm charm. I really enjoy the brushed top bezel and polished underside to give the watch a bit of a flash/flair. The 39mm platform is great and the bracelet is all that you can ask for. To me it's a watch that appeals to me in many ways, with all it's quirkiness and gives me something non-ubiquitous every time I look at my wrist.
For my 8” wrist I still prefer the 41mm Heritage Black Bay with the steel bezel, M79730-0006.
I am awaiting your tudor gmt prediction video men!! When does it come?? 😎🤙🏻
I am waiting on exactly the model you created!!! If this turns into reality, they can have my money!
The black bay pro is really a sexy watch, the size and the colour.. know Tudor should make it in a white dial and orange hand. Make it a bit thinner and you have a winner…. I have the black bay pro and you don’t notice the thickness. I’am a big guy… Tudor make it in a white dial I’ll be at the dealer. Keep the size 39 mm is the size right know to me… 👍 god dame it’s a good looking watch. Look out Rolex…39 mm just saying. 🙏
Great, compelling take and vid. i hope you are right, that it stays around. I would like to see a thinner movement/watch, not so sure I agree re: the 12, 6 and 9. I would meet you half way there. Have the heritage red bb, and heritage bb58. Would not want the pro in titanium, unless grade 5. Def needs to be all brushed, maybe with some chamfered polishing. That’s my two cents anyway. Cheers!
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Appreciate it Prof 😉 It does have a mind of its own, I'm convinced... the most inconsistent hair on the platform...
Your design suggestions are 🎯
Owned a BB Pro and recently sold it after wearing it only once or twice. I wanted so desperately to love this watch and make it daily wearer but could not get over the thickness. Tudor could've have done so much more with the case design to hide this. I could care less about their "in-house" caliber and I would've easily taken a generic GMT movement if it meant a thinner profile. I have little hope they will offer a redesign in the future.
Hey man. Don't really have to comment anything at this point. Just getting the algorithm running I guess. Nothing but praise from my end for your videos. Take care and best wishes.
id love Tudor to improve its GMT and the thickness. Rolex GMT 2 is my grail... but I am afraid it will have to wait. I said ill buy it only once I reach a certain professional level. So this would be perfect and I think it would be perfect for many people. Tudor is doing a great job in so many ways they just need to add this too
Great critique and video.
I really like the BB Pro trying it on but the BB GMT felt better proportioned and less too heavy. I’d love to see the Pro as-is but thinner and with a white dial option. The other home run that would be available here: BB58 GMT with Diet Coke bezel configuration.
Just make it thinner. And not so slab sided. That's it.
It's all we ask for 🥃
Gotta dig Tudor. Always cool
Hope you're excellent brother! 🥃
@@ID-Guy very much so my man. Same to you brother. Btw the new business insider video about Martin guitars is out
No comment on the leaked new Black Bay 58 in Esquire?
I didn't even know this existed! Definitely some details to unpack (looks like a larger BB54 in a lot of ways) - might do a render video in a few weeks around it! Thank you for bringing it to my attention brother! 🥃
@@ID-Guy looking forward to your opinion 😊 Also for that green box video! 🧐
Big fan of this watch - it's on my shopping list for next year ... maybe. Depends how they refine it. One thing I've learned about Tudor: don't necessarily buy the first iteration of a new ref - with a few exceptions (FXD and PO1) they always improve 'em.
I was pleasantly surprised by how the Pro wears, I'm not a fan of deep watches, at all - but it's good on wrist.
I don't really get why the brands GMT mov't is so thick - even 3rd party mov't manufactures like SoProd can pack the same features (bar independent hour hand movement) into their GMT movements, even some sub $1K microbrands are making 12mm GMT watches - personally I'd sacrifice some WR 𝙖𝙣𝙙 the travel GMT function for less depth.
I'd really like Tudor to bang out a 'Root-Beer' version of the pro - brown dial, Gold capped bezel and solid gold crown and centre (Jubilee) bracelet links - I reckon that'd work well. ☻
White dial, metas movement, thinner case like the 58 GMT, t-fit clasp and they can take my money
Excellent thanks. My question .. could Tudor roll out a white dial variant, or indeed should they do so? I would jump on one with your concept hand size and a big black triangle at 12 :@)
I feel the white dial is inevitable at this point (had a whole section in the video that I cut out to keep it a bit more coherent) - and at that point, I don't feel it has to do with "integrity" of the design or whatever else, it's more to do with selling more models - especially if this generation of the Pro will soon be obsolete 😉
I just want it thinner tbh. Take it down 2mm and we're set. The other changes you made aren't bad, but the thickness is my only current dealbreaker.
I think if they slim down that movement, they will definitely have my money, I love that design its just to thick mind you. I have never handled it, so
This made me realize how much I want a 1655. Love the edit too though for me the batons are too big. Date window frame is an excellent idea. When are they going to hire you?
8mm thick movement. That's nuts. That's my problem with most Tudors, just too thick
Crazy to think, right? How they managed it is a feat in itself 😆🥃
LOL