In your 2-wall stove, if you put a wicking material, say a little bit of fiberglass insulation or rockwool in between the two walls, the priming time for your stove will improve dramatically. Mine pressurizes and primes and all jets bloom at about 15-18 seconds. It’s a marked improvement.
I have watched so many of these tutorials and yours is the BEST of all of them. The individual stoves could not be constructed any easier. It was pure joy to watch and I will be making them all. Thank you.
Ape Man don’t really agree. This vid you’ve suggested requires a lot more equipment and weird stuff that’s hard to source. The beauty of these simple stoves is anyone can make them
I made the double wall last week and I’ve fiddled with it a couple times. Tonight I put it to the test. I used 2 ounces of denatured alcohol and two cups of water. At about 6:15 it was boiling. At 6:30 it was rolling. I crunched up my noodles and had them in by 7:00. I boiled it for three minutes and took it off. I added the flavor pack and boiled another minute or two. Around 12:45 it went out. Perfect! Just enough without much waste. I’m way too old and fat to do any hiking that would require me to cook food in the woods. But this would be a good thing to have if the power went out. Or just for the fun of it. I use this one and my hobo stove as much as I use my kitchen stove. It’s just relaxing to sit on the porch and cook dinner. Thanks for the video and the tips.
the fastest one i know of is like his penny stove one, minus the penny, with five holes in a dice pattern for the fuel to go in and also serve as additional burn holes. small wad of fiberglas insulation that i can't remember the exact size of helps it vaporize. indoors, will boil two cups of water as fast as a gas stove, maybe faster
Thank you. The best stove video I have seen so far. Fast, simple, easy to follow and to the point. Easy to watch as there was not an over amount of unnecessary repetitive talking on procedures. As always there are people who think they know how to do it better LOL.
nice! immediately thought of using a bigger can and was happy you showed the food can with cut outs already and a few minutes later made me realize why this are so familiar to me. this was the stoves we kids (below 10 yrs old) used when we play house and make our own food (small amts/limited resources ) like melt caramel cube candy with one of our fruits (can't remember English name), cook half a cup of rice, get a chicken wire to grill a small fish and buy a cola to complete the meal ^_^. unsupervised independent playtime is required experience before 2000s. lol. we cook using a food can, cut out a window, get small sticks and light them for a stove, pretending using real tools in playing house which we built with sticks, rice sacks and strings as a small lean to/ tent. nice childhood that have no computers or internet. (going in tangent here) kind of sucks because our parents want the kids to spend less time outside and stay home while kids these days barely go out because of watching tv or playing computer games. will be using my aluminum cans to make these so that I can cook away from convenience of the house. small/light weight.
pythia cael yep was my childhood memories. Sleeping outside and cooking breakfast. Open fire and can stoves. Stick and newspaper fire and alcohol when we reached 11-12 yrs old from a chemistry set gotten at Christmas. Lol. Fun hikes all day and fun nights under the stars just my sibling and Me. Miss those days.
Nice video. First time that I've seen all three stove builds in one video...great idea. I'm also a big fan of "penny" stoves with Esbit stoves for the base & pot holder. A winter time project and fantastic give-aways for camping buddys, or for grand children for the next camping trip.
When I was a kid in Cub Scouts we made hobo stoves and the fuel was a tuna can with cardboard rolled inside then we melted paraffin wax and saturated the cardboard with the wax. They burned for a very long time.
We did the rolled cardboard and wax in boy scouts . A few years later was using C ration cans and burning diesel and even plastic explosives during a monsoon rain in Laos .
@Beaches south of L.A. - C4 - C3 & det cord can be lit with a Zippo lighter or a match . It burns clean and HOT with no smoke and almost no detectable smell . An electrical or non electrical blasting cap is what makes it detonate . A block of TNT is a different story .
@@QuantumMech_88 "... High voltage! Done dirt cheap!" Oh sorry. Everytime I see TNT I think of AC DC's DIRTY DEEDS. Anyways that's pretty cool man. Thanks for sharing.
Great vid, u won me over, that was the simplest and most creative method of making a stove, that i have ever seen, i already have the other stove with the cubes so i will definately make a double wall and a penny stove aswel, nice demonstration.
On the penny stove you get more efficiency by putting the holes on the inside of the ring and three or four on the concave. That way it directs the flame to the center of the pot bottom and so have more surface area for the heat to travel across before it escapes up the sides of the pot. I put pearlite in them to regulate how fast the alcohol evaporates and find the penny unnecessary with the small holes you do not need the penny.
@@Bushwakbill Saying, who cares? Why fret about the name rather than just make a more efficient tool? Everything about it is generally the same as the usual penny stove model, they just tweaked the holes and added a wicking material. It's a pressurised stove from soda cans without the large open exhaust port in the centre that the typical CHS have. Still inspired by, built similarly to, and operates just as the typical "penny stove." You could still cover the middle holes with a penny if you wanna be neurotic about the name 🙃
Just wanted to let you know, I made a double wall stove by you instructions, and it worked out well. I've seen many other videos, but yours seemed like the easiest. I may try making another, maybe with a variation or two, but we'll see. Thanks for the video.
One thing to note is the priming. Both the double walled and penny stoves need priming by heating the can to the point that the alcohol vaporizes. To do that, pour a little puddle on the surface of what you're using your stove on (non flammable of course) and ignite that surface. As the can heats up it will cause the alcohol inside to reach its boiling point and ignite the jets with its vapors. You can make a windscreen/primer fuel catch/pot stand out of any soup or vegetable can that has a larger diameter of your stove cans, although you will need more than a utility knife to cut through those.
For the last year or so I have been using Vienna Sausage cans with carbon fiber mat in the bottom. The carbon mat makes it easier to burn in cold conditions. All you need is a can opener, scissors and a hole punch. I cut the rim off mine to cut down on weight. My current stove is 7 grams.
@@SuperDeut4 I have several of the cat food can stoves. They are a little wider, so better suited for larger pots. I still use them for my bushcrafting. But I went to the Vienna Sausage can to save weight on my hiking cook kit.
I use the carbon fiber wick in my stoves. I use a tuna can size can with a Sapporo Beer can (they are stainless steel) this is much wider - more stable, and durable.
👍👍👍 .. nice, thanks for sharing. Yep, I've built them all and more 😊. The Esbit Folder is also my favourite Pot Stand .. makes for a firm base and it's robust. I've had mine since 1968 .. it was my original Military Issue when I started my National Service in our Defence Force .. and still going strong. It also lends itself to home-grown aluminium wind shield inserts that can be used as and when required. My favourite is a variation of the centre 'Penny Stove'. I just use one can .. normally a discarded 200ml Energy Drink Can. Discarded because I do not drink the rubbish inside .. actually any so-called 'soft drink'. * Remove the Tab from the top of the can. * Punch some extra holes in the top lower section around the inner edge, longitudinally opposite the Tab Opening. Experience and preference aka trial and error will determine how many and how large. * Cut the bottom and top off the can. Trim, clean, remove the remaining tab piece from inside the top section and then very slightly 'flute' the bottom of the top section of the can cut-off. * Fill the top section with Ceramic / Glass Wool (Fibre Glass) or Carbon Cloth. * Assemble and that's it. The Filling reduces the risks associated with inadvertently knocking over a filled, burning stove and doesn't (my personal thumb suck) appear to visibly affect the stove efficiency. I cook full English Breakfasts on the above-mentioned setup. Yes, refilling is required, but that does have it's own advantages .. fuel conservation and reduction in the spill fire hazard. Keeping the already cooked food warm while preparing the other? A 'Bain Marie' using a set of rectangular military-issue aluminium Mess Tins ('Dixies') .. or other .. easy peas 😁. Take care ..
Handy to know and well explained. My old secondhand Swedish army Trangia is almost indestructible so unless you are an animal with it it will last a life time
Would it be safe and okay to make a larger penny can stove and use a different type of disk for the top? Or couldn't you just use 3 of them and spread them out a bit underneath your pot?
Yeah they work. I can cook a whole meal in a 12 inch frying pan on one of those. Nice thing about that wind shield can is it can be used as a n emergency rocket stove and burn twigs if you run out of fuel.
Looks to be the most robust I've seen in a lot of versions I have seen thanks for your time and excellent presentation from Belfast will be trying to make 1 for myself
Hey Belfast!!! Was in your area during the war way back when. I was 24 then now Im 75. I love your people and had many happy memories with you people. Wish you all the best. Wanda from USA.
i am just going to build it, and add the burners replace my old coleman gas fuel and use alcohol burners instead for indoors. thanks for your presentation
Is tere a way to make a fuel bottle? The first thing I think of is the extruded aluminium beer bottle, as long as it seals well, with a (guarantee) that it won't leak. You don't want fuel leaks in your bag/pack or otherwise!
Definitely the Penny Stove but made deeper to hold more fuel. Tomorrows project !...great stuff ! .....DAMN .....now i have to go and buy some cans of BEER !..... ;-))
Fantastic Video, you can really multitask. your explanations were very concise and clear. Great Job. I am going to make all three of these stoves now these now :-) thank you for making this video!
15:15 _"If I'm doing my math correctly, ..."_ You're not. You're getting 16 holes. 15:50 Take a full can, and press the cut bottom over the bottom of the full can, sstretching the edge of the cut bottom. This will make it easy to insert the top into the bottom.
When I made my penny can stove, one of my friends was adamant about it not working unless it had something to use as a wick. When I lit it and it started burning without anything inside of it he was completely amazed. I took a look at one he made and he had used a 16 penny nail to made his rim holes with, not only that but he used a quarter inch drill but to make his center hole!!! I told him why that was why his wouldn't work without a wick material. I was surprised that it even lit at all (I love him dearly but some times even your friends need mental help!!! 🤣🤣🤣). I used a coffee can instead of a peach can (don't hate me) and used an old triangle tipped can opener to put holes both around the bottom and top rim on the sides of the can. I also cut the square in it so now I can use it as the wind screen or my penny stove or something similar to a rocket stove. Thanks for the videos!!!
Gr8 Info. (Saved to Survival playlist.) thanks for showing multiple can options. I use those esbit cubes all the time.But I love the versatility of the lil alcohol stoves too.
Depends on the purpose. If you are out camping and just want heat then a Dollar store wire basket works really good as there is plenty of airflow to feed the fire (use small twigs and wooden scraps). For cooking however, you need a steady heat or your food won't cook evenly due to the fluctuating heat source from the fire. Tea-lite candles work OK for this but a butane stove works the best. If all you need is cheap and smokeless heat indoors (and very very minor cooking) during the winter the alcohol burners and tea-lite candles work great. I prefer tea-lite candles since I can get them very cheap (about $5.00 for 100). After the tea-lite candle burns out then you can use the remaining wax as a fuel source in the fireplace since wax burns nicely and will help assist getting the fire going Use the tea-lite candles with a flower pot and you have yourself a nice small heat source for a small room like a bathroom. Be careful though. Use a pan cookie pan or a large flat dish underneath the candles or fire source in case the fire gets knocked over.
LoL @ "Not that I'm accident prone, but I don't wanna make an ass of myself on a video". Bruh, we carry the same curse. Great vid, and thank you for sharing!
For your bigger stove, the one you made 1st, looks perfect for a sterno stove type thing. I have a very lightweight camping grill made by n for sterno cans but I use a medium sized alcohol stove instead. Has built in grill and wind screen
Look for GOYA Coconut water cans in the "ethnic isle" at the grocery store. They are 17 oz. They are super heavy gauge aluminum.....burly as hell..... I have made ETOH stoves out of them and they are way less prone to damage in your pack!! Great vid, as always, bro!!
@@JohnCarter-gz8js I thought that was for drinking out of aluminum container, not using alum cans for stoves. The stoves don't actually burn, that just get a bit hot.
Call it nitpicky but i belive they are better reffered to as alcohol burners since they still require a stove to put the pot on. Ive seen a great cat-can-stove design with a cylinder in the middle and some wicking material around it to keep it centered. My personal favorite is a food can with two rings of holes, one large (6-10mm) like 2-3 fingers from the bottom and one slightly smaller one (5-6mm) about one finger from the top. That one might also benefit from some wicking material in it but i havent tested it. Let it prime for a bit until the flames push out through the small holes once the pot is on. Done
Just make sure you have a pre-1982 penny. I can not tell you the amount of pennies I have melted back when I used this stove. Pre-1982 is 95% copper. Anything newer is 97.5% zinc.
I use a single can to make the penny stove. I cut both the bottom and top off, instead of two bottoms. Put a few smaller pin holes next to the big fill hole. The penny on top 'seals' the fill hole, so some pressure can build inside. You can use a penny/coin, or a round bit of metal. You can use a Scotch-Brite pad or steel wool to remove the paint, if you don't like a clean/shiny look for your soda can. The cat food stove needs some air holes or a pot stand. Use a hole puncher to put about 5 or 6 air holes around the top rim. There are TWO versions of the cat-can stove: one is called "fancy Feast" stove, and is better, IMO, and the other is the simple stove you see here. ONE ounce of fuel is the usual amount to add to the stove. It should heat 2 cups of water to near-boiling.
Handy addition to these is pot permanganate and glucose, great in wet/windy conditions and makes them almost selflighting, you just put the P.p. on top, then glob some liquid glucose onto that, little stir and wait for chemistry to do its thing,
..this was a great demonstration on the economy of expenditure of energy!! It's interesting to note - you didn't include any lint material like carbon felt.. I'm assuming, is unnecessary!?! Thanks buddy!!
I've just used the to of the can, instead of cutting the bottom of a second can. I can make 1 whole stove per can. It gives an easy way to add fuel, and create less waste from using two cans.
So I’ve built the penny stoves before, when I was like 12-13 they worked quite well. I couldn’t ever build the double wall type for many reason one is not knowing how to make measurements. Well it’s been 10 years since I’ve built my last alcohol stoves( penny stoves) until today I was finally able to build the double wall stove following your video 3 cans one stove didn’t have to re do, or anything. I did use cotton in mine, and it burned for 31 minutes. The tape I used was the foil tape it was 1in and 7/8 wide the wall was 2in and 1/8th. hope I said the measurements right lol. I also cut 4 notches in the wall since I used a wicking material(100% cotton balls) they were un rolled and placed around the wall snug but not packed tight.
I have done this five times now with different sizes of the holes and various number of holes. It burns tiny in the center and then goes out in a small poff! Can it be the alcohol? I use the same alcohol in my Trangia and it works just fine.
Thank you, very good video! I have been using alcohol stove for years and in cold weather I found out the importance of isolating stove from ground. It is not a good idea to put alcohol stove directly on the snow. Always insulate it somehow.
After playing with many kinds of DIY stoves over the years I have found the Fancy Feast is easy to make, works the best, no priming, needs no pot stand. Sure the flame is not as cool, but as a working stove it works the best.
New subscriber 👍 great video... How can I get a few of your alcohol burners, like 6 of them ???.. I'm lazy.. Lol... But I'd be willing to pay for 6 of yours...If Price & shipping is tolerable of course..THE DOUBLE WALLED, X3.. AND THE penny stove X3...LET ME 17:17 KNOW.. KEEP ON KEEPING ON BROTHER 👍🙏
Thanks for your video. Very interesting and informative. I'm not certain that the double-walled one is "more efficient". I think it's just that the center part is also lit, in addition to the holes in the periphery - so it's basically just an open one like your tuna-can stove (but of course, the holes allow for better aeration through separation. The "more efficient" one is probably the penny stove actually, as it has best aeration, and probably not as much of a hot spot in the center to burn your food in the middle. To get that one hotter, I suppose you can just double the amount of holes - perhaps in 2 concentric rows to avoid tearing the can apart.
Well, here is the thing. He didn't show how to cook with them. Once the double walked stove gets primed, that is where the alcohol gets hot enough to boil, then you can set your cooking pot right on top of the stove. The combustion continues from the Jets on the outside, there is no flame in the center as long as your pot is sitting on the stove. Hope this helps.
+Atimatik Army never had much success with cooking directly on the stove. It reduces the heat so much it take about 3 times longer to boil water, or about 3/4th of the time it will just snuff it. If you use the channel method or make the stove taller and locate the holes further down the side it works better directly... but it still kills the heat output and therefore I don't cook like that.
Dynamic Prepper Interesting, and I have noticed that as well, sometimes it sucks too much heat out and you loose the bloom. What is the channel method you speak of? I wish there was some scientific testing down with total burn times, amount of fuel required for a given amount of water to boil, time it takes to boil, etc, etc. It would take some work. Also, it would be cool if they had the majority of all versions of alcohol stoves as there are so many variations, it's crazy! I know that's asking for a lot, but would be cool to look at it on strictly scientific level to help choose the best overall stove design!
Have to agree with a double wall side burner. No pot stand needed and for your pot sucking too much heat all you need to do is hold it above the flame while you wait for the stove to bloom. For a GSI cup sized pot I make the stove from SB espresso cans with the sideburner holes 1/2" from the top. When it blooms your flame pattern is on the radius of the GSI cops bottom. Boils good and if you want to heat up food you get better results by heating the outside edge of your pot.
Perfect for power cuts if you need to cook food but don’t wanna go to all the effort of making a fire outside that’s if you haven’t got a wood burner of course like I don’t but perfect, simple construction especially the cat can stove which I will definitely be stocking up in event that the power goes down for more than 5 minutes
That’s why I made my penny stove. We get the occasional power outage from wind or ice storms. Nor easters are getting more common too. I use mine in the basement where the concrete floor and walls won’t burn if anything goes really wrong. So far it hasn’t killed me in the time it takes to bacon and eggs.
Fourth option... an empty sterno can. Drill holes around the edge. Fill it through the center hole. Then light through the center hole and once it warms up.. replace the center cap.
Check out the Spiguyver Backpacking channel here on UA-cam, he has done a bunch of boil tests with different stoves. The fancy feast is arguably one of the best, but the jury is still out on which is the best in most cases.
I can’t get my penny stove to ignite and stay lit. Is it because I am using 70% isopropyl alcohol? If so what is a good fuel to use to burn this lil stove?
Another easy idea is a tuna can with corrugated cardboard (little less than the height of the can) coiled up in the can to act as a wick. Then fill with melted wax (paraffin). When cool, the wax is solid and doesn't spill, and is easy to carry in a back pack. It lights easily, burns well and lasts a very long time. You can easily carry a second one as backup. No fuel to carry is an advantage. Your penny stove worked well, smooth burning.
You forgot one big advantage of these stoves...they're silent! I hate using a gas stove early in the morning if there are people still sleeping nearby as they're so loud! Also, the double wall burns a lot quicker without a pot on top to block the center...the pot does the job of the penny.
Top stove by far is the Capillary stove. Even easier to build and weighs less. Not to nitpick, but none of these shown are "stoves," they are "burners." Difference? Stoves hold a pot, burners require a pot-stand. The Capillary stove is an actual stove, not a burner.
I like the penny stove because it's cute. The first one is too much work or more work than I want to do which brings me to my favorite, the CAT CAN stove. Question, you made all of them small but can you get the same results if you make them bigger? Instead of one and a quarter or one and a half could you use the entire can. For heating and such..
I only make a small stove anymore and use it for one cook set. Any more I'll use a trangia stove but my go to alcohol stove is the evernew titanium stove with the cross stand. Yeah it's $35 for the stove and $15 for the ti cross stand but you'll never crush it!!
In your 2-wall stove, if you put a wicking material, say a little bit of fiberglass insulation or rockwool in between the two walls, the priming time for your stove will improve dramatically. Mine pressurizes and primes and all jets bloom at about 15-18 seconds. It’s a marked improvement.
I have watched so many of these tutorials and yours is the BEST of all of them. The individual stoves could not be constructed any easier. It was pure joy to watch and I will be making them all. Thank you.
I made them all and an insulated rocket stove! Got the scars to prove it. Thank you again.
Ape Man don’t really agree. This vid you’ve suggested requires a lot more equipment and weird stuff that’s hard to source. The beauty of these simple stoves is anyone can make them
I made the double wall last week and I’ve fiddled with it a couple times. Tonight I put it to the test. I used 2 ounces of denatured alcohol and two cups of water. At about 6:15 it was boiling. At 6:30 it was rolling. I crunched up my noodles and had them in by 7:00. I boiled it for three minutes and took it off. I added the flavor pack and boiled another minute or two. Around 12:45 it went out. Perfect! Just enough without much waste.
I’m way too old and fat to do any hiking that would require me to cook food in the woods. But this would be a good thing to have if the power went out. Or just for the fun of it. I use this one and my hobo stove as much as I use my kitchen stove. It’s just relaxing to sit on the porch and cook dinner.
Thanks for the video and the tips.
the fastest one i know of is like his penny stove one, minus the penny, with five holes in a dice pattern for the fuel to go in and also serve as additional burn holes. small wad of fiberglas insulation that i can't remember the exact size of helps it vaporize. indoors, will boil two cups of water as fast as a gas stove, maybe faster
Or on a couch lol #dacouchcook
Bending holes sideways makes a vortex on inner ring also works well but the inner ring trickier to seat
Penny stove double walled & vortex jets inner lip is my 4th build no wick but fiberglass maybe or carbon felt on list
Just a little tip when cutting the cans. If you put them inside the roll of tape it'll be much easier 👊👍👍
Great video thanks 👏👏👏
Thank you. The best stove video I have seen so far. Fast, simple, easy to follow and to the point. Easy to watch as there was not an over amount of unnecessary repetitive talking on procedures. As always there are people who think they know how to do it better LOL.
This guy knows his stove!!!!! Cheap off the grid, survival añd very valuable advice! Thank you!
Survived my whole army time on the "Crappy Fuel Tabs". They are great.
nice!
immediately thought of using a bigger can and was happy you showed the food can with cut outs already and a few minutes later made me realize why this are so familiar to me. this was the stoves we kids (below 10 yrs old) used when we play house and make our own food (small amts/limited resources ) like melt caramel cube candy with one of our fruits (can't remember English name), cook half a cup of rice, get a chicken wire to grill a small fish and buy a cola to complete the meal ^_^. unsupervised independent playtime is required experience before 2000s. lol. we cook using a food can, cut out a window, get small sticks and light them for a stove, pretending using real tools in playing house which we built with sticks, rice sacks and strings as a small lean to/ tent. nice childhood that have no computers or internet. (going in tangent here) kind of sucks because our parents want the kids to spend less time outside and stay home while kids these days barely go out because of watching tv or playing computer games.
will be using my aluminum cans to make these so that I can cook away from convenience of the house. small/light weight.
pythia cael yep was my childhood memories. Sleeping outside and cooking breakfast. Open fire and can stoves. Stick and newspaper fire and alcohol when we reached 11-12 yrs old from a chemistry set gotten at Christmas. Lol. Fun hikes all day and fun nights under the stars just my sibling and Me. Miss those days.
That sounds like a lot of fun. I grew up in the 2000's and still did the same, not many parents left who let their kids do stuff like this.
😂😂😂😂 " Perfect ? No ! Work ? Yes !" (18:45) 😂😂
Great video !! Sincere, funny, objective, no excessive geek science. 👍👍
You really did a good job of explaining exactly how to build these stoves. Thanks!
Nice video. First time that I've seen all three stove builds in one video...great idea. I'm also a big fan of "penny" stoves with Esbit stoves for the base & pot holder. A winter time project and fantastic give-aways for camping buddys, or for grand children for the next camping trip.
When I was a kid in Cub Scouts we made hobo stoves and the fuel was a tuna can with cardboard rolled inside then we melted paraffin wax and saturated the cardboard with the wax. They burned for a very long time.
Learned it in Boy Scouts and they were great to cook with. I now use them when I get bored, like now during quarantine
We did the rolled cardboard and wax in boy scouts . A few years later was using C ration cans and burning diesel and even plastic explosives during a monsoon rain in Laos .
@@QuantumMech_88 like C4? Does that stuff just burn without ignitors?
@Beaches south of L.A. - C4 - C3 & det cord can be lit with a Zippo lighter or a match . It burns clean and HOT with no smoke and almost no detectable smell . An electrical or non electrical blasting cap is what makes it detonate . A block of TNT is a different story .
@@QuantumMech_88 "... High voltage! Done dirt cheap!" Oh sorry. Everytime I see TNT I think of AC DC's DIRTY DEEDS. Anyways that's pretty cool man. Thanks for sharing.
Great vid, u won me over, that was the simplest and most creative method of making a stove, that i have ever seen, i already have the other stove with the cubes so i will definately make a double wall and a penny stove aswel, nice demonstration.
Very good instructional tutorial. Three different stoves and a Comparison thrown in. Thank you very much.
On the penny stove you get more efficiency by putting the holes on the inside of the ring and three or four on the concave. That way it directs the flame to the center of the pot bottom and so have more surface area for the heat to travel across before it escapes up the sides of the pot. I put pearlite in them to regulate how fast the alcohol evaporates and find the penny unnecessary with the small holes you do not need the penny.
Therefore rendering it no longer a “penny”stove ,btw..
The penniless stove
@@Bushwakbillso? Gonna be pedantic rather than make a more efficient tool? Lol kayyy
@@samhain9394 like wha....?
@@Bushwakbill Saying, who cares? Why fret about the name rather than just make a more efficient tool?
Everything about it is generally the same as the usual penny stove model, they just tweaked the holes and added a wicking material. It's a pressurised stove from soda cans without the large open exhaust port in the centre that the typical CHS have.
Still inspired by, built similarly to, and operates just as the typical "penny stove." You could still cover the middle holes with a penny if you wanna be neurotic about the name 🙃
Just wanted to let you know, I made a double wall stove by you instructions, and it worked out well. I've seen many other videos, but yours seemed like the easiest. I may try making another, maybe with a variation or two, but we'll see. Thanks for the video.
That’s awesome thank you. If you wanted to seal it around the sides what do you recommend?
Vortex inner ring jets, penny stove combo dual wall tricky but if added fiberglass or carbon felt be better
One thing to note is the priming. Both the double walled and penny stoves need priming by heating the can to the point that the alcohol vaporizes. To do that, pour a little puddle on the surface of what you're using your stove on (non flammable of course) and ignite that surface. As the can heats up it will cause the alcohol inside to reach its boiling point and ignite the jets with its vapors. You can make a windscreen/primer fuel catch/pot stand out of any soup or vegetable can that has a larger diameter of your stove cans, although you will need more than a utility knife to cut through those.
Outstanding instructional video 👍
Steel wool insulation really helps thermal efficiency. But, it will take much longer to cool down.
That was a great tutorial. I will be trying these myself this weekend.
Excellent Video. 👍👍😎
Thanks, I like the looks of symmetrical flames on the penny stove!😃
Excellent video! Very simple instructions and demonstrations.
For the last year or so I have been using Vienna Sausage cans with carbon fiber mat in the bottom. The carbon mat makes it easier to burn in cold conditions.
All you need is a can opener, scissors and a hole punch. I cut the rim off mine to cut down on weight. My current stove is 7 grams.
That Larry Guy That would be called the Fancy Feast Stove (name acquired from using the cat food).
@@SuperDeut4 I have several of the cat food can stoves. They are a little wider, so better suited for larger pots. I still use them for my bushcrafting. But I went to the Vienna Sausage can to save weight on my hiking cook kit.
I use the carbon fiber wick in my stoves. I use a tuna can size can with a Sapporo Beer can (they are stainless steel) this is much wider - more stable, and durable.
👍👍👍 .. nice, thanks for sharing.
Yep, I've built them all and more 😊.
The Esbit Folder is also my favourite Pot Stand .. makes for a firm base and it's robust. I've had mine since 1968 .. it was my original Military Issue when I started my National Service in our Defence Force .. and still going strong. It also lends itself to home-grown aluminium wind shield inserts that can be used as and when required.
My favourite is a variation of the centre 'Penny Stove'. I just use one can .. normally a discarded 200ml Energy Drink Can. Discarded because I do not drink the rubbish inside .. actually any so-called 'soft drink'.
* Remove the Tab from the top of the can.
* Punch some extra holes in the top lower section around the inner edge, longitudinally opposite the Tab Opening. Experience and preference aka trial and error will determine how many and how large.
* Cut the bottom and top off the can. Trim, clean, remove the remaining tab piece from inside the top section and then very slightly 'flute' the bottom of the top section of the can cut-off.
* Fill the top section with Ceramic / Glass Wool (Fibre Glass) or Carbon Cloth.
* Assemble and that's it. The Filling reduces the risks associated with inadvertently knocking over a filled, burning stove and doesn't (my personal thumb suck) appear to visibly affect the stove efficiency.
I cook full English Breakfasts on the above-mentioned setup. Yes, refilling is required, but that does have it's own advantages .. fuel conservation and reduction in the spill fire hazard.
Keeping the already cooked food warm while preparing the other? A 'Bain Marie' using a set of rectangular military-issue aluminium Mess Tins ('Dixies') .. or other .. easy peas 😁.
Take care ..
Handy to know and well explained.
My old secondhand Swedish army Trangia is almost indestructible so unless you are an animal with it it will last a life time
Less talk more action, let’s get this show on the road, time is clicking I have to reach Kilimanjaro’s tip before the sun goes down.
*ticking
Would it be safe and okay to make a larger penny can stove and use a different type of disk for the top? Or couldn't you just use 3 of them and spread them out a bit underneath your pot?
Yeah they work. I can cook a whole meal in a 12 inch frying pan on one of those. Nice thing about that wind shield can is it can be used as a n emergency rocket stove and burn twigs if you run out of fuel.
Looks to be the most robust I've seen in a lot of versions I have seen thanks for your time and excellent presentation from Belfast will be trying to make 1 for myself
Hey Belfast!!! Was in your area during the war way back when. I was 24 then now Im 75. I love your people and had many happy memories with you people. Wish you all the best. Wanda from USA.
i am just going to build it, and add the burners replace my old coleman gas fuel and use alcohol burners instead for indoors. thanks for your presentation
Dr. Raul Zavaleta D.C. A lot safer!
This works extremely well! I've done it using hand sanitizer for fuel! Good job!
How well has hand sanitizer worked for you? What does it leave behind? How clean of a burn do you get?
Your way to do is so simple and easy nice video thanks
Bravo Laddie, 3 in One!
Excellent video. Thank you.
Is tere a way to make a fuel bottle? The first thing I think of is the extruded aluminium beer bottle, as long as it seals well, with a (guarantee) that it won't leak. You don't want fuel leaks in your bag/pack or otherwise!
Definitely the Penny Stove but made deeper to hold more fuel. Tomorrows project !...great stuff ! .....DAMN .....now i have to go and buy some cans of BEER !..... ;-))
no excuse for not already having beer. shame on you
Fantastic Video, you can really multitask. your explanations were very concise and clear. Great Job. I am going to make all three of these stoves now these now :-) thank you for making this video!
15:15 _"If I'm doing my math correctly, ..."_
You're not. You're getting 16 holes.
15:50 Take a full can, and press the cut bottom over the bottom of the full can, sstretching the edge of the cut bottom. This will make it easy to insert the top into the bottom.
I knew of the penny stove and it works awesomely!
So easy to make! Extremely cheap to fuel and very very compact! PERFECT! Dinner is served!
When I made my penny can stove, one of my friends was adamant about it not working unless it had something to use as a wick. When I lit it and it started burning without anything inside of it he was completely amazed. I took a look at one he made and he had used a 16 penny nail to made his rim holes with, not only that but he used a quarter inch drill but to make his center hole!!! I told him why that was why his wouldn't work without a wick material. I was surprised that it even lit at all (I love him dearly but some times even your friends need mental help!!! 🤣🤣🤣).
I used a coffee can instead of a peach can (don't hate me) and used an old triangle tipped can opener to put holes both around the bottom and top rim on the sides of the can. I also cut the square in it so now I can use it as the wind screen or my penny stove or something similar to a rocket stove.
Thanks for the videos!!!
Gr8 Info. (Saved to Survival playlist.) thanks for showing multiple can options. I use those esbit cubes all the time.But I love the versatility of the lil alcohol stoves too.
Depends on the purpose. If you are out camping and just want heat then a Dollar store wire basket works really good as there is plenty of airflow to feed the fire (use small twigs and wooden scraps). For cooking however, you need a steady heat or your food won't cook evenly due to the fluctuating heat source from the fire. Tea-lite candles work OK for this but a butane stove works the best. If all you need is cheap and smokeless heat indoors (and very very minor cooking) during the winter the alcohol burners and tea-lite candles work great. I prefer tea-lite candles since I can get them very cheap (about $5.00 for 100). After the tea-lite candle burns out then you can use the remaining wax as a fuel source in the fireplace since wax burns nicely and will help assist getting the fire going Use the tea-lite candles with a flower pot and you have yourself a nice small heat source for a small room like a bathroom. Be careful though. Use a pan cookie pan or a large flat dish underneath the candles or fire source in case the fire gets knocked over.
Very cool and informative video !
LoL @ "Not that I'm accident prone, but I don't wanna make an ass of myself on a video". Bruh, we carry the same curse. Great vid, and thank you for sharing!
Thank you for taking the time to make this video 👍
For your bigger stove, the one you made 1st, looks perfect for a sterno stove type thing. I have a very lightweight camping grill made by n for sterno cans but I use a medium sized alcohol stove instead. Has built in grill and wind screen
The hand sanitizer works great! Clean burn! Very hot burn!
Look for GOYA Coconut water cans in the "ethnic isle" at the grocery store. They are 17 oz. They are super heavy gauge aluminum.....burly as hell..... I have made ETOH stoves out of them and they are way less prone to damage in your pack!! Great vid, as always, bro!!
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u don't burn aluminum unless your going for alzheimers disease
@@JohnCarter-gz8js I thought that was for drinking out of aluminum container, not using alum cans for stoves. The stoves don't actually burn, that just get a bit hot.
@@JohnCarter-gz8js That has shown to be not true.
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Awesome, educational/camping/survival equipment - Very-Well presented. Thank You!
Call it nitpicky but i belive they are better reffered to as alcohol burners since they still require a stove to put the pot on. Ive seen a great cat-can-stove design with a cylinder in the middle and some wicking material around it to keep it centered.
My personal favorite is a food can with two rings of holes, one large (6-10mm) like 2-3 fingers from the bottom and one slightly smaller one (5-6mm) about one finger from the top. That one might also benefit from some wicking material in it but i havent tested it. Let it prime for a bit until the flames push out through the small holes once the pot is on. Done
Love the penny stove
Just make sure you have a pre-1982 penny. I can not tell you the amount of pennies I have melted back when I used this stove. Pre-1982 is 95% copper. Anything newer is 97.5% zinc.
I use a single can to make the penny stove. I cut both the bottom and top off, instead of two bottoms. Put a few smaller pin holes next to the big fill hole.
The penny on top 'seals' the fill hole, so some pressure can build inside. You can use a penny/coin, or a round bit of metal.
You can use a Scotch-Brite pad or steel wool to remove the paint, if you don't like a clean/shiny look for your soda can.
The cat food stove needs some air holes or a pot stand. Use a hole puncher to put about 5 or 6 air holes around the top rim.
There are TWO versions of the cat-can stove: one is called "fancy Feast" stove, and is better, IMO, and the other is the simple stove you see here.
ONE ounce of fuel is the usual amount to add to the stove. It should heat 2 cups of water to near-boiling.
Handy addition to these is pot permanganate and glucose, great in wet/windy conditions and makes them almost selflighting, you just put the P.p. on top, then glob some liquid glucose onto that, little stir and wait for chemistry to do its thing,
Very well done! Great instructions and all well said.
..this was a great demonstration on the economy of expenditure of energy!! It's interesting to note - you didn't include any lint material like carbon felt.. I'm assuming, is unnecessary!?! Thanks buddy!!
I've just used the to of the can, instead of cutting the bottom of a second can. I can make 1 whole stove per can. It gives an easy way to add fuel, and create less waste from using two cans.
Excellent
So I’ve built the penny stoves before, when I was like 12-13 they worked quite well. I couldn’t ever build the double wall type for many reason one is not knowing how to make measurements. Well it’s been 10 years since I’ve built my last alcohol stoves( penny stoves) until today I was finally able to build the double wall stove following your video
3 cans one stove didn’t have to re do, or anything. I did use cotton in mine, and it burned for 31 minutes. The tape I used was the foil tape it was 1in and 7/8 wide the wall was 2in and 1/8th. hope I said the measurements right lol. I also cut 4 notches in the wall since I used a wicking material(100% cotton balls) they were un rolled and placed around the wall snug but not packed tight.
Just wondering about the first one. Would it help to put a snuffer over the big hole to put out the huge center flame? Would it still burn?
@Rick Sorber
Yes it will work that way!
Well done video mister
Very good video.
You should also look for a Fancy Feast stove. It don’t need a stand.
I have done this five times now with different sizes of the holes and various number of holes. It burns tiny in the center and then goes out in a small poff! Can it be the alcohol? I use the same alcohol in my Trangia and it works just fine.
Thank you, very good video! I have been using alcohol stove for years and in cold weather I found out the importance of isolating stove from ground. It is not a good idea to put alcohol stove directly on the snow. Always insulate it somehow.
This was so great thank u!! Having the construction plus the burn demos was so helpful!
Smith and forge, good stuff. The only hard cider that I like. It wouldn't be difficult to get a couple empty cans of s&f
I love my cat food can it's I little different but same concept
My favourite one to make is the metal bud beer bottle stove.
After playing with many kinds of DIY stoves over the years I have found the Fancy Feast is easy to make, works the best, no priming, needs no pot stand. Sure the flame is not as cool, but as a working stove it works the best.
The double wall stove I put mine in my fold up sterno stove , but all three would fit in one.
I'm gonna place this on a brick. In case all hell breaks loose. lol Awesome Video!
I was under the impression that the double wall stove would allow for setting the pot directly pin top without a stand
New subscriber 👍 great video... How can I get a few of your alcohol burners, like 6 of them ???.. I'm lazy.. Lol... But I'd be willing to pay for 6 of yours...If Price & shipping is tolerable of course..THE DOUBLE WALLED, X3.. AND THE penny stove X3...LET ME 17:17 KNOW.. KEEP ON KEEPING ON BROTHER 👍🙏
Note for UK preppers: "hard cider" is ...cider ;-)
Unless it comes in a black can, then it really is hard cider.
Or unless it comes in a traditional stone flagon direct from the press.....
You ride. First I noticed the Park spoke ruler, then the Clean Streak. 🤘
Been in the bike business about 18 years
Dynamic Prepper 28 for me. Apparently I like to punish myself
Thanks for your video. Very interesting and informative.
I'm not certain that the double-walled one is "more efficient". I think it's just that the center part is also lit, in addition to the holes in the periphery - so it's basically just an open one like your tuna-can stove (but of course, the holes allow for better aeration through separation. The "more efficient" one is probably the penny stove actually, as it has best aeration, and probably not as much of a hot spot in the center to burn your food in the middle. To get that one hotter, I suppose you can just double the amount of holes - perhaps in 2 concentric rows to avoid tearing the can apart.
Well, here is the thing. He didn't show how to cook with them. Once the double walked stove gets primed, that is where the alcohol gets hot enough to boil, then you can set your cooking pot right on top of the stove. The combustion continues from the Jets on the outside, there is no flame in the center as long as your pot is sitting on the stove. Hope this helps.
The double walled stove IS the pot stand. Once it "blooms" you set your pot right on in and serves to keep it pressurized.
+Atimatik Army never had much success with cooking directly on the stove. It reduces the heat so much it take about 3 times longer to boil water, or about 3/4th of the time it will just snuff it. If you use the channel method or make the stove taller and locate the holes further down the side it works better directly... but it still kills the heat output and therefore I don't cook like that.
Dynamic Prepper Interesting, and I have noticed that as well, sometimes it sucks too much heat out and you loose the bloom. What is the channel method you speak of?
I wish there was some scientific testing down with total burn times, amount of fuel required for a given amount of water to boil, time it takes to boil, etc, etc. It would take some work. Also, it would be cool if they had the majority of all versions of alcohol stoves as there are so many variations, it's crazy! I know that's asking for a lot, but would be cool to look at it on strictly scientific level to help choose the best overall stove design!
Have to agree with a double wall side burner.
No pot stand needed and for your pot sucking too much heat all you need to do is hold it above the flame while you wait for the stove to bloom.
For a GSI cup sized pot I make the stove from SB espresso cans with the sideburner holes 1/2" from the top.
When it blooms your flame pattern is on the radius of the GSI cops bottom.
Boils good and if you want to heat up food you get better results by heating the outside edge of your pot.
morris4069 Good tip about using the time you wait for the bloom to preheat your pot!
The idea of putting the pot directly on the top of the DOUBLE WALLED STOVE, is to pressurize it, reducing fuel wastage and increasing efficiency.
Excellent video.
Very good video. Thx
Perfect for power cuts if you need to cook food but don’t wanna go to all the effort of making a fire outside that’s if you haven’t got a wood burner of course like I don’t but perfect, simple construction especially the cat can stove which I will definitely be stocking up in event that the power goes down for more than 5 minutes
That’s why I made my penny stove. We get the occasional power outage from wind or ice storms. Nor easters are getting more common too. I use mine in the basement where the concrete floor and walls won’t burn if anything goes really wrong. So far it hasn’t killed me in the time it takes to bacon and eggs.
I found it easier to fold the bottom of the top can a little, just enough to form a seal still
Fourth option... an empty sterno can. Drill holes around the edge. Fill it through the center hole. Then light through the center hole and once it warms up.. replace the center cap.
The best alcohol stove is the fancy feast stove imho
Check out the Spiguyver Backpacking channel here on UA-cam, he has done a bunch of boil tests with different stoves. The fancy feast is arguably one of the best, but the jury is still out on which is the best in most cases.
Excellent.
Luv it. Life savers. TFS.
I can’t get my penny stove to ignite and stay lit. Is it because I am using 70% isopropyl alcohol? If so what is a good fuel to use to burn this lil stove?
Great video. Thanks for uploading 👍🏼
20:15 technically adding the inner wall to penny stove would prime faster methinks...
Good ones.
Can I make the first 2 taller? Thanks for sharing!
Great video, thank you for sharing.
Cider, niiiice...
with the first stove you make, should you start with the soda you just drank or go all in and make 12 from the beer cans you just drank?lol
Another easy idea is a tuna can with corrugated cardboard (little less than the height of the can) coiled up in the can to act as a wick. Then fill with melted wax (paraffin). When cool, the wax is solid and doesn't spill, and is easy to carry in a back pack. It lights easily, burns well and lasts a very long time. You can easily carry a second one as backup. No fuel to carry is an advantage. Your penny stove worked well, smooth burning.
Yeah that will work if you don't mind getting soot all over everything.
Brilliant - thanks!
What kind of fuel did you use exactly?
@1Time Videos alright, thanks!
You forgot one big advantage of these stoves...they're silent! I hate using a gas stove early in the morning if there are people still sleeping nearby as they're so loud!
Also, the double wall burns a lot quicker without a pot on top to block the center...the pot does the job of the penny.
Top stove by far is the Capillary stove. Even easier to build and weighs less. Not to nitpick, but none of these shown are "stoves," they are "burners." Difference? Stoves hold a pot, burners require a pot-stand. The Capillary stove is an actual stove, not a burner.
I like the penny stove because it's cute. The first one is too much work or more work than I want to do which brings me to my favorite, the CAT CAN stove. Question, you made all of them small but can you get the same results if you make them bigger? Instead of one and a quarter or one and a half could you use the entire can. For heating and such..
Does the kind or quality pof beer make a difference in the performance of the stove? 😆
I only make a small stove anymore and use it for one cook set.
Any more I'll use a trangia stove but my go to alcohol stove is the evernew titanium stove with the cross stand.
Yeah it's $35 for the stove and $15 for the ti cross stand but you'll never crush it!!
i also use the evernew and loving it