What's the Best Fuel for Alcohol Stoves?
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Great episode, i love a good alcohol stove video 😊
As a Swede I've grown up with Trangia stoves and so I have some comments 😅
Methylated spirits is generally recommended, but remember that the Trangia was developed in northern Sweden, where it was expected to perform at high altitude in -20°C. For lower altitudes and fair English weather I find isopropanol is as good if not better.
The manual suggests diluting the spirits with up to 6% water. I find 10% works well at high summer, to prevent over heating.
I noticed you filled the stove up quite a bit. I think it's supposed to be filled at most to about ¾.
Methanol is a good fuel to use 10 litres on Amazon £24 plus £6.99 postage
Nice video. Thanks.
I know that it runs completely contrary to everything we know, but I had a 2L tin of meths, bight from a hardware store 25 years ago, that burned completely clean, whereas it's the bioethanol that soots up the bottom of my pans!
Though as I used up the last of that tin of meths a while ago, and never liked the smell, it's bioethanol for me these days. I do wonder if they are all created equal, though.
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If you take a small bottle of dish soap with you, you can smear it on the bottom of your pot before you start cooking. The soot then sticks to the soap and not the pot. Once the port has cooled just wipe the soap off.
This is what we did in Boy Scouts, but I preferred to let my pans turn dark because they seemed to heat up faster.
That is a century old method to reduce wood fire discoloration of your cookware. Incredibly messy and stinky solution. I tried it once in the 1970’s and hated it. I currently use HEET in the yellow bottle which is intended as an automotive product to remove water from fuel. It may only be available here in the USA, cheapest found at Walmart. Its clean and little yellow flame. No pot cleaning needed with HEET thus far.
If you have soot you have bad fuel. If you're burning alcohol you'll most always have bad fuel because alcohol absorbs water from the atmosphere. It starts going bad as soon as you open the package. I just use an unmodified cat food can, a pot holder and a wind screen. Stoves with jet ports and such presume you have "good" fuel.
Can't beat bioethanol. Doesn't leave any residue, mega cheap, and with a tissue wick lights down to serious sub zero temps.
Hi Paul! Top draw presentation on the age old chestnut of “which is better” 😂 bottom line, whichever you can get hold of, pros and cons for both in my 60yr experience of using the stuff!! No real difference in price, both soot your pots to varying degrees and both pong a bit!! You may have missed a bit with the Evernew stove, when you place a pot on top covering the main opening and first set of holes you are in fact in “simmer” mode! Boiling mode achieved by using the cross type trivet. Regards from deepest Dorset 👍
The Bio fuel at B&Q is 2l for £8, so for the same qty at Home Bargains would be £9.16, so the B&Q Bio is cheaper.
Makes a change from rip off B&Q
Good to know! A bit too much if want to refill mid journey though!
It's all way cheaper than the price of takeaways these days. Even those stores who charge a lot more for 500ml of meths!
I use the tea bag after iv made my cupa. Rub the cooled tea bag over the cup to desolve the black soot and residue. .works a treat .
I generally prefer to have my pot bottoms BLACK with soot , because Black absorbs heat better than shiny .
Same. In America I use a product called HEET, it's methanol. I prefer it because of the fuels I've tried for my alcohol stove, it's the most discrete. Can't tell you how many times I've burnt a digit on that damn invisible flame. ;)
Despite the little drawbacks of alcohol stoves, I still love them. I have thee trangia burners now packed in different kits including a full trangia stove kit I have owned for over thirty years. The other two get taken out on canoe trips quite often. What I like is in certain environments where you don't want to make smoke or a lot of noise (the bane of gas canister stoves!) they make a lot of sense. I can sit on a river bank watching the wildlife really close by and still be brewing up, without scaring everything away. Likewise, most people can walk past a concealed day camp on the river bank, canoe tucked away into the undergrowth and my tarp hidden in the trees, and never notice I am making tea or heating food. They are a bit slow, ( the stoves, not the passers by!!) and they do need careful management from wind and you must pay close attention regarding spills and safety. It would be incredibly easy to start a serious fire in summer in dry conditions. I take a small folding solderers fibreglass cloth mat with me to place under my stoves. It has an eyelet in each corner to peg down with either small tent pegs, or more often, those I make from twigs 'on location'. It really helps add a level of spill protection as any accidental spillage gets burned off on the mat with no damage and it's easier to spot any unwanted flames. That said, I am extremely cautious in dry conditions, as we all MUST be.
There is something rather nice about the faint meths smell when using a trangia stove. It's a trip back in time!
I have not however, used the biofuel that you highlight here, so I am going to get some and give it a go!
Happy camping Paul! 😊
Plastic vinegar bottles from ASDA can be reused many times. Can squirt it out in an accurate jet, to control easily where it goes and how much. Not much chance of spill compared to pouring.
PS vinegar is NOT a fuel - obviously - I meant the bottles to store!
Also if you have hand sanitizer with 75% alcohol content, you can stir some salt into it and the alcohol will separate. Works in a pinch.
Well, I learned something today!
@@Domus_Maximus glad I could help! I've used it several times when I wasn't around town to buy more
The perfect receptacle for me is the wife's / daughters old nail polish remover bottles. Those things are strong and have bomb proof lids & the perfect size for me for a 2/3 day trip.
Clever!
The nail polish remover works as fuel as well, just don’t tell the wife. 😏
In my 80 years I have used alcohol stoves for more then 50 of them. I only use Denatured Alcohol and if heating something inside a tent ( rarely done ) I use , 190 proof , grain alcohol ( food grade from the Liquor Store ). The reason for that is in a closed area I do not want to have the fumes from the poisons in the Denatured Alcohol inside the tent and breathing them. Only black bottoms I have ever gotten when using either form of fuel is when I sit on something black , the stoves stay clean.
It's worthwhile mentioning to be careful with a trangia bottle, to vent it first before pouring, if you're opening it at a higher altitude than where you filled it.
Bought a storm cooker many years ago that is very similar to the transit but comes with a pot stand a pot and a frying pan. Runs beautifully on methylated spirits which is probably the most common alchohol readily available even in the most rural areas. Somehow using an alchohol stove takes the rush out of cooking taking longer than the gas. The reason I camp is to slow life down
Mate, “just quickly” or whatever, that was solid useful info.
Interestingly; here in the States the last time I bought methylated spirits, it was not coloured, but clear like water is.
The fuel that I use the most is the yellow color of the product "heet" which is sold in all automotive stores. It seems to burn well and leaves no soot that I've ever noticed.
Cracking video as you said in a previous video you need to take care as accidents can happen
Recently on a trip out on the Anglesey coastal path I had a mishap with an alcohol stove ….take care in bright light as it can be difficult to see if the stoves still going . I had a flash over when refilling, luckily only burning my shorts and my leg
So please don’t let tiredness cause you to slip up ……take care when using any kind of stove
Aye man, tiredness and impatience too - common causes of accidents. Also getting too high (natural) and having too much fun seems to make me lose the awareness of risk.
Whilst camping a friend spilt some meths on his cuff which ignited. He shook his hand to extinguish the flame but was then arrested by a member of the constabulary who had been called. He was later sentenced to two years for waving a firearm at a policeman.
Where's the rimshot emoji? 🤣🤣🤣
Get your coat 😂
He was probably also screaming incendiary language
And was labelled a firebrand I bet@@peetsnort
Bravo.......me.......I carry the 190 proof that can be drink n.......and good for cooking.......cheers
Here in Canada I use 99.9% Pure stove grade Methyl Hydrate. Found in the paint section of Walmart or Canadian Tire, also from commercial & farm fuel distribution companies.
GREAT VIDEO Paul , Without doubt the TRANGIA is bombproof but heavy got me thinking OH WHY has no manufacturer thus far not replicated a TRANGIA with a screw top and simmer ring in Titanium EVERNEW clearly missing a trick here and increased sales , not even Chinese knock offs have worked on this omission , here's hoping someone does.
I've never understood the need to boil water faster whilst camping!? What is the need to boil 45 seconds faster when you are out camping - just marketing hype to get people to buy more gear IMHO. I still use the same Trangia stove I bought when I was about 16 and it's still going strong some 35 years later. Bombproof stoves that work anywhere, yes it takes a minute longer to boil 500ml of water that a jetboil but who cares!!
You are absolutely right! ....😅
I've never thought it necessary either. Enjoy your peace and quiet while it slowly heats...
I'm more interested in how MUCH fuel it takes and not how long it takes. Some do burn hotter.
Brilliant short that Paul👌…back to you finest stove content 😂… I’m Bio all the way, never thought I’d swap out my pocket rocket but once you go over to the peace of an alcohol stove there’s no going back is there 🤣🤣
Thanks for this one it’ll be so helpful to many I’m guessing 👌👌👍
A useful run through the basics (and some not so basics) of using alcohol stoves. Back in your comfort zone. Well done Paul!
I just bought a lil burner like your non trangia one in the video, with the two rows of holes, for some ultra light overnighter and this video dispeled all the confusion I had about what is the right or wrong fuels and what I can use.
Thank you!
I’m glad that you stressed the importance of safety with the stoves. I had one spill one when it tipped while lighting and it instantly gave me a second degree burn on my hand. These stove require the utmost care and respect when handling. Great video
I’m sorry to hear about your accident. And you’re right about the precautions and safety required with these burners. Up here in the Nordics people have always been using Trangias as complete stove sets, not as a standalone burners on the ground. And when used within a T25 or T27 set, the risk of spilling fuel is much smaller.
But when using in a Triangle or on the ground, it would good to have some small fire blanket like sheet ready in your backpack. I admit that I don’t have.
Steredent will clean all that carbon off your pots .Drop 1 tablet in a bowl of hot water with your mug/ pan jobs a good 1
If you stuff your trangia with carbon felt, you won't have to worry about fuel leaking out.
the b&q bio ethanol is my weapon of choice. leaves no mess and is as cheap as chips. 'ooh chips!'
haha the price of them these days. Takeaways getting expensive. Why taking a camp stove can save quite a bit on a trip. They are fun too! If I'm out on a day bike/hike I just take a potatoe or two that was microwaved for 5 mins. Wrap in foil. I swear it tastes as good as chips and keeps warm for ages!
@@andrewnorris5415 screen grabbed this and will try it out. Thnx.
Alcohol hand sanitiser works great in DIY stoves
I bought up a load for pennies at the end of COVID
My type of lad straight into home and bargain 😂👍
In germany we use denatured alcohol. 3€/L 👍👍🇩🇪
I'll have to get some bio-ethanol then. I've always been bothered by the amount of soot I get from meths and that's all I've ever used. Takes a LOT of scubbing with a fresh brillo pad to get the soot off after a few days use. My Trangia was my mums from the 60's/70's. When I cleaned it after I first used it, I only then discovered the little jets! They'd been filled in with soot over the years. It worked so much better afterwards! 🤣 It doesn't have the little simmer lid thing either, only a jet cover. I'm looking to upgrade, but I'll never get rid of my Trangia. I still have the original box for it!
Perfect timing. I’ll be taking my Trangia burner out for the first time next weekend and you’ve just answered a question that I’d forgotten to find the answer to!
Me too!
If you wanna reduce the black coating on your pod, add some water to the ethanol, around 10% works fine for me, a little less power but no annoying cleaning later.
Nice little video, and alcohol stoves are always a winner for me 👍 The felt and mesh can be added to a Trangia style burner to help avoid the spill danger, but may slightly impact the bloom or boil time. But alcohol stoves are supposed to be fun and can provide hours of entertainment when you can fiddle, faff and fettle them to make them just how you like them. Nice video, thank you 🙏
Some get into making their own with interesting super efficient designs using different types of jets. The jet generally are more efficient on fuel. They are low weight and no canister to cart round. Take just the fuel you need. And can pre warm the fuel in pocket on cold days. For longer trips gas is supposed to weigh less as a package. But alcohol never goes wrong. Gas is faster to boil.
Used meths for 60 years, usually in my original Trangia burner. Can't be bothered to add water because the soot on the bottom of my cook pot isn't a problem and I haven't noticed it makes the burn much hotter.
You are a practical no messing guy. Love it that pieces of kit can last that long and still be totally functional!
I use the watered down meths system... it doesn't leave any soot at all... I will get some bio-ethonal , got to try everything.Take care out there.
I use ceramic wool in all my alcohol stoves. Not only does it help make them burn longer IMO but it helps make them spill proof. I use 1cm thick ceramic wool and use the alcohol stove as a cookie cutter which cuts the ceramic wool out to the perfect size too. I only ever use bio-ethanol fuel.
In the U.S. I have always used Heet in the yellow bottle. It’s used keeping your cars gas line from freezing. You can get it pretty much anywhere in the U.S. it burns clean.
Thank you Paul, well thought out and explained.
Always enjoy seeing you bring out the alcohol burners. Takes me back to your first camp outs on UA-cam. I've not tried the gel cans but I've taken to placing my Trangia burners inside of a pot stand or small foldable Sterno stove or Esbit stove... basicly anything that SHIELDS THEM and STABILIZES THEM. I, too, feel that it is much more stable with something additionally protecting it (less likely to spill over).
The bioethanol works out at £2 per 500 ml compared to £2.29 per 500 ml for Meths so cheaper, cleaner and more efficient! hadn't realised the Trangia works by vaporising the fuel and sending it out the holes in the side and i have one. learn something new every day.
Alcohol stoves remain a favourite of ours year after year. We were fortunate to find an online vendor selling high purity ethanol for use in cosmetics. The seller posted it as "pure" but that would be super expensive laboratory grade and not affordable for camp use. The ethanol has the highest heat value of any alcohol fuel we have tested, so you carry less to get the job done. Denatured alcohol is also widely available in hardware and paint stores in the Philippines. We also purchase bulk alcohol gel in buckets intended for use as chafing dish fuel. Hotel, restaurant and catering supply shops offer this product.The gel is the same sort of fuel you find in STERNO brand and other "canned heat" products. We repackage it into assorted sizes of recycled plastic dish detergent bottles. Our youngest troops each have a folding pocket stove (copy of an Esbit.) They have an assortment of aluminum bottle caps and small tins into witch the needed amount of fuel is dispensed. We like the fact that the gel will not spread in the event of a tip-over, the way liquid alcohol will. We have ceased using alcohol fuel cubes that are expensive (imported item) and none have stored well, even in refrigeration. Not a great emergency fuel.
I've got an unhealthily obsession with camp stoves! Got no idea why
haha for me it's torches.
5:34 "Be careful not to cover yourself in it - especially when you're gonna be lightning stuff in a minut.." Solid advise!!! 😂😂
I purchased a 12 one litre pack of EkoFuel bioethanol because the wisdom from the outdoor world said it burns cleaner, it does not, my kettle and pots have never had so much soot on them, I can actually brush the build up off before trying to scour the rest clean, I'll be going back to meths with 10% water when I've used up the bio as it was much cleaner.
Excellent info and a great presentation. Thanks.
The best fuel for an alcohol stove is EverClear. It's basically moonshine, and any liquor store has it. You can drink it too, or use it for antiseptic.
Volkov is the same, 190 proof ethanol I think. Much expensive for fuel. NEVER DRINK THIS STUFF it will put you over.
Back in the 1990s I went camping one holiday weekend intending to take two gas bottles, one for lighting and the other for cooking. I goofed, though, and only brought one. as I had a new spirit burner I was going to try out, I immediately went shopping in two little country townships, buying up all the methylated spirits available; 1.25 litres in total. This turned out to be enough for all my cooking over those three days, including making a beef stew in a pressure cooker. The sole gas bottle was used with a gas lamp. That weekend was also the debut of a new tent.
A video that really appeals to the stove freak in me 😂
Trangia have a list of fuel for every area/country. I prefer bio-ethanol. Smells better and I find it less soott than meths. I get the bio ethanol in B&Q as well.
In France you can get alcool brulee in nearly any supermarket and that is the best fuel I've ever used.
Personally I prefer the trangia bottle. Easier to pour, especially now my right hand is fecked.
Interesting that all they list for GB is meths. No links to stores, just the word "meths". Not much help sadly! But glad to know HB have it from this video! No mention of bio-ethanol either on Trangia. I can see how their guide could help when in another country and want to find the name of the fuel in their lang. But no links to stores. Only the name of it in each country!
I put my GSI mug directly onto my home made alcohol stove (the recess in the bottom of the mug is the perfect diameter to fit the top of the stove), once the stove blooms, and it doesn't snuff out the flames.
Indeed, it makes the stove roar even harder.
Maybe it's because the holes are lower down than on the Trangia.
I bought a gallon of Methanol from Amazon and it works great with no soot whatsoever. Pots and pans remain perfectly clean. Here in California USA, denatured alcohol is banned, so I'm very happy to have found Methanol for my stove. I will also give bio ethanol try.
not all bioethanol liquids are equal. using my Des Cattys stove I've experimented with both a Biola (from Amazon) and the Fire Dragon. The Biola was over 2 mins quicker to boil 500ml (8 min 15 / 10 min 35
Next time, dont do this on a table again, when sitting on the table!
If a open fuel bottle flips over close to a burning stove!
Privite parts hurt extra when fried!
Im a beginner backpacker!
But on my job i had emergency drills 2 times a year ( fire & chemical burn + advanced first Aid) on a petrochemical plant, famous for PVC and dynema
You know where my alcohol comes from ( the 99% kind)
How is meths at £2-29 for 1/2 litre, cheaper than Bio-Ethanol at £8 for 2 litres? 🤔
Excellent vid. Now I know. Never used an alcohol stove camping. Don't own one but will. It's dangerous. You can't see it burn. Respect, knowledge water. See you tomorrow. Hope you got up with Mr. Beavers.
Re the soot on the bottom of pans with methylated spirits - i happened to be talking about this and someone said the methylated spirits obtained via a chemist is different to that from a typical hardware shop. I tried it from the chemist and it definitely burnt without the soot 🤷♂️. Alcohol Brulee is the equivalent of meths in France and is readily available in most supermarkets . 👍
I have always used meths and, even when diluted, the sooting is a bit of a pain. Will be visiting B&Q for some bioethanol tomorrow.
The B&Q bio ethanol works well in my ever faithful Triad stove but in windy weather it can burn much hotter than meths and overheat the stove causing the fuel to boil and flare up.
Showed us the methylated spirits burning in the trangia but not the bio-ethanol ?
Never used bio-ethanol, would have liked to see it in action, in the trangia, before I try it .
Great video though, 👍.
Sadly, bioethanol is stupid expensive in Canada. Something like $25/L (or maybe 500mL, I forget). Almost impossible to find too. They used to sell it as fuel for small "fireplaces", but those are almost impossible to find too.
I get 91 percent isopropyl alcohol from Walmart in the drug store section. I saw a test and it was the cheapest per boil by far. It does leave the pot a little black. I use a penny pop can stove in a dryer vent pot stand. I've found it to be the most efficient. Not the fastest by any means, but the most efficient.
Bad smelling! I've tried it and learned to keep the pot 1/2" above the flame for NO soot but the smell i can't get used to it but a nice hot blue flame & if all other fuel isn't available give it a try
@@IAMGWH1 It's not much cheaper than buying fuel alcohol from Amazon in the one gallon size. I just ordered some.
@@fire7side
Ok thanks I’ll look into that
why does the methylated spirit have a color additive? Seems unnecessary.
I've used la hacienda for years now, but lately been using the meths more. The home bargains stuff burns cleaner than others and is close to the b and q price. I always take too much out with me though
Meths gives off Carbon monoxide as it burns where bio ethanol does not which makes it a way safer fuel if you use it in a tent vestibule.
Purell hand sanitizer also makes a great fuel! It's clean, not soot. It's a mimic of sterno stove fuel.
When I tried that hacienda bio-ethanol I noticed a purple and green layer form on top of the water, similar to a petrol spill on water. At first I thought it was something on my new toaks pot so I tested it on gas and then back on the bio-ethanol it left a film again. For that reason I wont use it and prefer Meths.
Liked your explanation, everyone has their favourite but good that you showed the different fuels.
Its odd that your metho (methylated spirits) are dyed - I would guess that the dye being burnt is causing the soot. I use Trangia's (25 & 27 series) in Australia with metho and there's only the very slightest soot when the burner isn't warmed up - once warmed up, the flames are blue and there's no soot. Our metho is clear like your bio-ethanol. In Australia the bio-ethanol doesn't burn as well as metho and costs a lot more than metho. In Australia only Kerosene is dyed (usually blue). The metho is Australia has no smell when burnt.
I was toying with the idea of buying some 72% absinthe, what I don't use for cooking I can add a dash of water and drink, but it's very expensive and not sure 72% is strong enough for cooking or if it'd clog jets in burner. Has anyone tried this?
Commonly called metho in Australia, and it's perfectly clear with no colour
Here in the US I prefer Heat gasoline treatment in the yellow bottle (methanol). Burns cleaner than ethanol or other alcohols.
In South Africa, I use Methylated Spirits.
Here in Switzerland, I use the 'Brennsprit', obtainable from my local Supermarket and almost anywhere else.
'Sooting' .. how much depends inter alia, on how well ventilated the burner is and height of pot from the burner. For me, nothing to fuss over.
Spillage / leaking .. I've filled my Trangia Burner (and most of my other Alcohol Burners) with Ceramic / Glass Wool and Carbon Cloth. Burner efficiency does not appear to be overly compromised .. and it lights much easier in below freezing temps and one does not need to wait for the 'bloom' (in case the 'cold flame' is snuffed) to put the pot onto the pot stand.
'Simmering' and Flame Control .. the fuel will burn at a temperature. 'Hot' aka 'heat output' is regulated by the area of the burner surface. There are many ways to work with this .. even down to making an omelette 😏.
'Gel Fuel' .. a great option, although it does burn slightly cooler than the liquid stuff .. which in itself, is not necessarily a bad thing.
Very safe to use and the Gel Fuel available at my local Supermarket ('Sicherheitsbrennpaste' / 'Safety Burn Paste'). It burns absolutely clean. Not a mark on my pots.
'Invisible Flames'. I keep a wet cotton face cloth at hand when cooking. Many uses .. including ensuring that the flame is actually out before handling / refilling the burner and obviously, cooling it down before putting flesh to hot metal.
Pure methanol (widely available because it is used to make biodiesel) burns the cleanest and is very cheap. Methylated spirits can be a cocktail of alcohols some of which burn with a yellow flame which is sooty. Pure methanol solves this problem.
My nearest B&Q is 35 minutes away on public transport and Homebase, which is much easier to get to, doesn't sell bioethanol. Meths isn't an option for me - one whiff of the smell and it triggers an instant migraine As a non-driver, I really miss the old-fashioned local ironmongers that sold everything under the sun. These days, if you don't have a car and want something that you can't buy in Asda or Tesco, it's a lump of your day gone to get one item. It's the trusty gas stove or my wood gasifier for the foreseeable.
You can always get bioethanol via the internet e.g. Amazon and then it's delivered to your door.
@@elizabethconvey3242 Cheers - I'll check that out
8 fruckin quid for a jug of bio ethanol... the world has gone insane
Yeah but it was 2 litres. I think Paul said the meths was 500ml. If it was th n the bio ethanol worked out cheaper than the meths which was more than 2 quid a bottle.
Loving your content Thank you so much! ... I am new to the trangia stove, what do you think about white gas? I have white gas as fuel for it and also 90% isopropyl alcohol...I know the alcohol will be ok, but what about the white gas? Is it ok and clean to use to cook with it together? I appreciate your help! 🙏🙏🙏
I see Jose Cuervo back there Paul that's some expensive stove fuel😂😂
We Aussies have a tendency to add the letter "o" to abbreviate words Hence, we do no have "metho" instead of "meths."
I'm not very good at quizzes but i'll have a crack at answering if i may - ferret ear cleaning solution ?
Very well explained. You are really good at this! Thank you ☺️
you read my mind, i just got back from a 4 day hike/camp, i took a alcohol stove instead of my usual heavy gas cannister after watching one of your videos and my god was i impressed, this video couldnt have come at a better time, i used methylated spirits and was wondering if there was anything that would burn longer
Here in 🇨🇦 it's methyl hydrate aka paint thinner that is easily acquired, tho not good to get on ur skin, absorbable poison 😮
Evernew stove lets you slimmer
Good when ur on a diet?
I bought my first, and only, Trangia in 1987 for rock climbing days/day hikes and for backpacking the UK’s National Trails and cycle tours. To keep weight down it was the Mini Trangia. Although I use different cook vessels now, I still have the the battered lid and bowl (it got accidentally dropped on a rock climbing day at the base of a rock face, and it rolled/ bounced it’s way down a scree slope in the Lake District) and I still use the burner for base camps. For lightweight burners and backpacking trips/overnighters, I build them from pop/beer cans.
My tips for the Trangia burner is to get a non-sharp syringe 💉 (available online, or from computer printer cartridge refill kits). That way you can measure the fuel accurately to use just how much you need to make a brew etc. If you use the syringe to put some fuel in between the base of the burner’s screw thread and the raised rim of the base, before filling the reservoir, then you light that first. This heats the burner ring, transfers to the main fuel and the burner is quicker to bloom.
If you’re out in cold weather, temperatures down to freezing temperatures or below, carry the burner with fuel in it in an inside pocket to keep it warm, then it will light as normal no problem.
Mostly I use meths as fuel as it’s more readily available, but if I can’t get some or to preserve fuel, my stoves can burn twigs instead or even fire lighter blocks.
The reason meths makes soot is the purple dye. This can be reduced by diluting using 10% water of meths volume. No noticeable drop in burn times and your fuel will go 10% further.
Personally I just wipe looser soot off on grass and keep my cooking vessels black rather than scour them shiny again. Shininess reflects heat, black absorbs it 😉
It doesn't have the dye in Australia. Also, it needs to be pre-heated when its very cold.
B&Q bio is my choice for my Trangia. I'd planned a wildcamp for tomorrow, the forecast was scorchio when I looked on Monday, now it's a 90% chance of rain for the whole evening. Bugger.
Not sure what you're using but the bioethanol I got definitely produces a fair bit of soot
If you get "meths" in the States you get something else entirely!
I laughed as soon as he said it.
I buy methylated spirits without the purple dye in it, it does reduce the soot
I got meths for 5 pounds for 2 litres from a building supply shop
Great video".
Thank you for sharing.
Ive found if you add fiberglass insulation inside the trangia it stops spills
I stayed at the Crow Pub..imagine my surprise 😉