Gor-Rok Immortal Empires Campaign Review

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  • @Dark40061
    @Dark40061 Рік тому +135

    I did what you say and it did work and thank you so much for this video and the info

  • @Santi_Nell
    @Santi_Nell Рік тому +214

    I'd even argue that Gor-Rok is a great campaign for new players, given he gets a ridiculously overpowered legendary hero slann from the start. It's so easy to just throw Gor-Rok solo into a fight and make the A.I stack multiple units on top of him making it textbook-level easy to spam aoe spells (i'd get like 1k+ kills on Kroak in turn 8-9 battles sometimes)

    • @mattandrews2594
      @mattandrews2594 Рік тому +41

      This. In fact most of the Lizard campaigns should be recommended in-game as beginner friendly, while The Empire should be taken off. CA aren't gonna do it though, which makes me believe they don't understand their own game.

    • @connerair3520
      @connerair3520 Рік тому +13

      ​@@mattandrews2594 it's not that they don't understand, it's that they just don't give a fuck. They are busy creating more DLCs so they can get more of your money. You already bought the base game, no need to waste time there improving it when it's of no monetary benefit to them.

    • @loveluclins
      @loveluclins Рік тому +3

      @@connerair3520 It's not like they don't care, it's that there's a lot of technical debt. We still get reworks, we got immortal empires for free now... etc.

    • @Grivehn
      @Grivehn Рік тому +10

      @@mattandrews2594 Beginner factions remain the same, cuz theyre human (-like, in case of Tyrion), have diverse armies closer to what historical TW players might have got used to. Thats all. You also dont want to set DLC factions as beginner-friendly, that would look pretty bad on CA. Also, with all the faction changes between WH1-3, difficulty changes, and whether you turn in endgame or not, you'll get vastly different results at who is easy and who isnt. They are just not willing to put in the work - of even listening to campaign players - to change a simple recommendation people care about as much as about Terms and Services.
      Putting Kislev as beginner-friendly was definitely a mistake though, even lorewise they are in a horrible place geographically, and thats well translated into the game. Gor-rok on the other hand was easy in WH2, but now he is surrounded by enemies. I fought tooth and nail for like 70 turns (granted, in SFO) to grind down Pestilens, and I still had Delves, Khorne, Tomb Kings and even Vcoast who literally resurrected at Awakening a turn after I finally wiped them out the first time. That was the hardest early game I ever had in any campaign. Id argue Tehenhauin is at a much better place to start off with to the south. Itza is in the middle of Lustria, surrounded by enemies.

    • @Nr4747
      @Nr4747 Рік тому

      Lord Kroak is simply ridiculous. I just started playing Warhammer 2 after playing Warhammer 1 for over 300 hours and despite doing everything to beat Gor-Rok's army with my high elves on normal difficulty, Lord Kroak still got over 300 kills - despite the AI being bad at using magic correctly.

  • @lukeottaway5660
    @lukeottaway5660 Рік тому +87

    One of my funnest campaigns in Warhammer 3, had a blast with Gor-Rok. Lustria is so much nicer to fight in compared to Warhammer 2.

    • @peterhardie4151
      @peterhardie4151 Рік тому +7

      I failed multiple Legendary Teclis campaigns in Warhammer 2. Some nasty stuff happened down there.

    • @WhatsleftofTom
      @WhatsleftofTom Рік тому +3

      @@peterhardie4151 Teclis was my first Helf legendary campaign in 2, second ever legendary run. A tough spot down there, so many mistakes

  • @doktarr
    @doktarr Рік тому +15

    The "trick start" part of these guides are great.

  • @gagepresbury7200
    @gagepresbury7200 Рік тому +106

    I really do love this series, it was a great idea and honestly I like it more than your streams at times

  • @Gralic600
    @Gralic600 Рік тому +11

    Legend reviewing each LL campaign:
    "So you can cheese this by simply doing that (...)"
    Please, never change!

  • @philipadubose
    @philipadubose Рік тому +8

    That strategy was awesome!!! It was insanely easy. Playing on legendary and having a blast. This will be my first lizardmqn campaign. Thank you so much for all the awesome information in this series!!

  • @highfalutinman
    @highfalutinman Рік тому +13

    Gor-rok's my favorite lord hands down, and Kroak's an absolute juggernaut. His campaign is so easy I actually allow Skrolk to get stronger before marching into his territory outnumbered like Alexander wolfing down Persia

  • @zaxxis7177
    @zaxxis7177 Рік тому +2

    Thanks for video. I had diffrent start (maybe they patched something) so i will give me advice to people with same problem. I did the same with nurgle which was very helpful, but Skrolk wasnt in Oyxl. I took Oxyl only using heroes and dino and then used Kroak to scout Subatuun, there will be new lord starting to recruit. Skrolk will be in Time Guardian full stack with extra army so u should make ambush in trees, he will go take back Oxyl and with one point in ambush u should have 86% of doing it good, then u kill him and easy cake.

  • @mage6325
    @mage6325 Рік тому +10

    i love these reviews short and fun, hope you could come up with some other series where you discuss units and or lords

  • @marcus1116
    @marcus1116 Рік тому +5

    I played this capaign recently and what suprised me is how fast the number of your enemies start to grow. It was like turn 10 when I have consolidated the two starting provinces (Itza and Oxyl) and I was already at war with Harkon, Bordeleaux, Wulfhart and Rakarth + like three minor factions ( clan spittel for example). Also funny thing is that i didn't manage to confederate oxyotl, nakai or tahanuin since all three of them died while refusing to join me. Itza also haw pretty easy conditions for short campaign victory (i did it by accident at around turn 40).

  • @VDarksteel
    @VDarksteel Рік тому +5

    CA must have seen this video, got down there and turn 3 and Skolk is no where to be seen.

    • @Tharrel
      @Tharrel 3 місяці тому

      yeah, I don't think it works anymore

  • @11---------
    @11--------- Рік тому +1

    man, played a gor rok campaign last night, hes so damn fun, having an army of boosted sauros warriors and then gorok himself being basically unkillable with his items is so fricken fun, and then having some skinks to catch any fleeing enemies bc theyre so fast, i love the lizardmen.
    oh and not to mention the giant nuke flinging frog wizard that follows behind.

  • @iboral5432
    @iboral5432 Рік тому

    First of all many thanks for reviewing all these campaigns. I can confirm that in June 2023, your start suggestion still works to a huge degree. I did not find skrolk in turn 3 but I still took their main settlement away and caused a huge issue to their recruitment. However, I recommend NOT doing this to people looking for a challenge. I play VH/VH and after I crippled clan pestilens in turn 3, there was no more challenge left in this campaign. Just been straight sailing. Regardless, many thanks for all your hard work Legend!

  • @thebweadguy3028
    @thebweadguy3028 Рік тому +9

    started a normal Gor-Rok campaign yesterday, didn't fight the rats till they attacked me with 2.5 stacks, still won cause Kroak got 3k kills

  • @pantheon6522
    @pantheon6522 Рік тому +1

    I played a Lizardmen army way back when and my leader was always Gor-Rok with a cohort of Temple guard at the core. Now so many years later I get to see that minature I painted come to life and smash up Skaven by the hundreds. He might not be the best legendary lord, he might not be the most fun legendary lord, he might not be the most skill based legendary lord, but he is the legendary lord that I waited on ever since warhammer 1 got announced, and ever since warhammer 2 I fell in love with that big murder block all over again. I just wish Temple guard were a bit more stronger for a viable late game melee grind build.

  • @scarletcroc3821
    @scarletcroc3821 Рік тому +2

    I think this campaign is perfect for new players. New players tend to be more defensive and Gor Rok is all about defense. Additionally he also starts the game with an insanely powerful legendary hero. HE are easier to use, but Gor Rok just gives so many good defensive bonuses

  • @akantor0811
    @akantor0811 Рік тому +8

    Liking these guides but still miss your saving battles some of those were just shockingly impressive cheese

  • @joshbruess8849
    @joshbruess8849 Рік тому +1

    Love the lizardmen. I ran gor-rok on the table top solely cause I love him as a character. He was my first campaign in total war. Though I think cha'xak should be in his role being he's the ultimate slann body guard. Gor'rok should still be in the area but he was all about repelling anyone dumb enough to go to lustria as well as stomping deamons

  • @dzav8909
    @dzav8909 Рік тому

    Interesting start will try it thanks for the great videos Legend 👏

  • @amilldr
    @amilldr Рік тому +3

    Keeping with the lizards, would like to see Tehenhauin next.

    • @SpiceCh
      @SpiceCh Рік тому +1

      I think rotating between factions might be wisest. That way he gets the broadest coverage of the player base instead of catering to the players of one faction at a time :)

  • @justashibainu
    @justashibainu Рік тому

    Gor-Rok is a lot of fun, an easy campaign where you can just sit back and crush your enemies with the insanely OP magic of Kroak. In my recent Gor-Rok campaign I had 8 doomstacks of Temple Guard, Carnosaurs, Stegadons, and other elite units stomping all over Ulthuan and the Empire just because I wanted to.

  • @liammccabe05
    @liammccabe05 3 місяці тому

    Looking forward to trying this! Was at a total loss on how to deal with Skrolk, as I kept getting to turn 15 or 20 and they would declare war and hit me with 4 full stacks. Hopefully this alleviates that 😊

  • @evanescentdoom2629
    @evanescentdoom2629 Рік тому +2

    yea lord Skrolk isn't sitting in Oyxl on turn 3 anymore both times I did this start on very hard hard he hasn't been in there. Maybe I'm unlucky but still just saying it's still pretty easy just he isn't sitting in there anymore.

  • @BlackHawk21ification
    @BlackHawk21ification Рік тому +1

    The tips for the campaign start no longer work as the rat won't be at OYXL recruiting anymore he'll be even further below at chupayotl or time sentinels

  • @SamuraiMorshu
    @SamuraiMorshu Рік тому +10

    Nurgle recently getting an MP buff but still on life support on campaign lol

    • @ReaperOfSaltyTears
      @ReaperOfSaltyTears Рік тому

      I love pvp Nurgle, campaign is painful.
      Even modding it to a different start location results in that "watching paint dry" feeling. So sloooooow, in literally every aspect.

    • @KorsAir1987
      @KorsAir1987 Рік тому

      Hopefully they got some changes to the campaign side too.

    • @Morris_Minor
      @Morris_Minor Рік тому +2

      Just make their buildings fucking normal 😂 I hate the merry go round building wait time, yeah it's a cool gimmick but just lemme build it.

    • @thunderball11111
      @thunderball11111 Рік тому

      @@ReaperOfSaltyTears Honestly I didn't enjoy nurgle all that much when I played him but he's definitely the most powerful lord I think i've ever played on campaign. Once you have even a small base of say 5-10 cities there's genuinely nothing in the game that can beat the combo of give them all attrition plague before declaring war, then throw 0 upkeep nurgling 20 stacks at them on loop until they die.

  • @stonefolk2778
    @stonefolk2778 Рік тому

    I love this campaign. It might be my favourite campaign.

  • @Masquerade1200
    @Masquerade1200 Рік тому

    Not watched you for a good 18 months. Really liking these reviews especially cause I'm not great with the starting moves

  • @Cypress77
    @Cypress77 Рік тому +1

    I have thousands of hours played across all 3 Total Warhammers, but I've still never played a single turn as Gor-Rok for some reason. I'll play him next.

  • @thetaleofzulu3693
    @thetaleofzulu3693 Рік тому

    Yes my fav LL! Thank you Legend

  • @Fortexx200x
    @Fortexx200x Рік тому

    I'm curious how Lord Skrolk is doing in warhammer 3. Love this serious a lot Legend! Keep it up!!

  • @mawortz
    @mawortz Рік тому +2

    Its the best campaign in my opinion

  • @Nobdythere
    @Nobdythere Рік тому

    Gor Rok was my first full map conquest in Warhammer 2. First and last haha.

  • @watermelon1339
    @watermelon1339 Рік тому

    I just started a Gor-Rok campaign and couldn't find a video from you about him lol

  • @TisTheWay
    @TisTheWay Рік тому

    Looking forward to the Boris overview

  • @jabloko992
    @jabloko992 Рік тому +1

    Karak Kadrin
    I swear it's up there with Kislev on the pain scale. 3 annoying af grudges in 3 different directions, constant enemies across vast distances, trash economy and last patch the slayers were bugged (not sure if that's fixed yet)

  • @Mellenium
    @Mellenium Рік тому

    Nice, i liked Gor-Rok. Now Wulfric

  • @Sentinel2k6
    @Sentinel2k6 Рік тому

    I love the Lizards way to much in Total war. Gor-Rok is one of my Favorites

  • @retro3564
    @retro3564 Рік тому +1

    Gor-Rok is insane strong when he is level up correctly...he is a one man doom stack just vanilla...in early game, i just put him up on then enemys walls, and he kill everything...and i help out with krolk of course.. Sieges is the most diffecult in early game in the lack of catapult of any kind for the lizzard men..your army get smashed by the towers.

    • @hooktraining3966
      @hooktraining3966 Рік тому

      In Warhammer 2 i just always leveled up his personal combat tree and rushed him to the sword of Kaine. With that kind of power he could not be defeated by the AI

  • @isaacgorski6054
    @isaacgorski6054 Рік тому

    Aw yes. Gor rok. The "control all of lustria by turn 35" start

  • @sim.frischh9781
    @sim.frischh9781 Рік тому

    I still haven´t played Gor-Rok even a single time in TWWH2, i kept going for Ikit Claw over and over again... and the Dwarfs, i LOVE the Dwarfs.
    But i do want to play more Lizardmen. Hopefully i don´t forget that when choosing Lord and end up playing Ikit Claw again... -.-

  • @Squilliam2314
    @Squilliam2314 Рік тому +1

    Love the series

  • @Zucca2011
    @Zucca2011 Рік тому +5

    Lizardmen as a faction just needs some more interesting campaign mechanics and they would be perfect. Either make Geomantic Web interesting and/or introduce a Great Plan mechanic

    • @kvltofsobek90
      @kvltofsobek90 Рік тому

      Recruitment should be based on increasing capacity by restoring spawning pools too

  • @SenorRed
    @SenorRed Рік тому

    i did this, but it did not end out as you said it would-- skrolk didnt turn out to be in oyxl, and turned out to be miles away from it when i took his two settlements. After that the dwarves took xhotl from me, so i couldnt get the river quetza province

  • @007whiterussian2
    @007whiterussian2 Рік тому +2

    I am playing as luthor harkon rn and gor rok is such a bitch to deal with I allied with the skaven and they can’t beat him and I don’t have enough monies to make a strong enough army to take itza yet with harkon away north so it’s been a back and forth for like 60 turns haha

  • @TheRealSlimTeddy
    @TheRealSlimTeddy Рік тому

    Thanks!

  • @eduardoribeiroucv9630
    @eduardoribeiroucv9630 Рік тому

    I personally prefer Temple Guards over saurus warriors because they have cool hats 😊

  • @Vandelberger
    @Vandelberger Рік тому

    Been role playing as Oxyatl and I am giving basically all of Lustria to Gor Rak, as he is launching a great tide into dark elf lands. My main Oxyatl armies are in the northern waste conquering everything.

  • @andrerodon3921
    @andrerodon3921 Рік тому +1

    I feel the campaign starts off fun but have never finished it although I have started it many times...

  • @SamSam-bk7dz
    @SamSam-bk7dz Рік тому

    Frigging Gorok soloed my whole Cathay jade warrior army, I killed all his other units (5 stegadon and other things). 4 canon shot and he is still full hp at the end.

  • @rabgix8805
    @rabgix8805 Рік тому

    I love my photos shield lizards.

  • @aprinnyonbreak1290
    @aprinnyonbreak1290 Рік тому

    A FROGGE IS A SMOL BEASTIE

  • @LordSevarg
    @LordSevarg 6 місяців тому

    They must have buffed the Skaven because turn 3, they are coming back from taking a city to the South, and have a full stack, while training another stack in their new city

  • @hooktraining3966
    @hooktraining3966 Рік тому

    ROK AND STONE

  • @LordPratticus
    @LordPratticus Рік тому

    ❤❤❤

  • @87mc12
    @87mc12 Рік тому

    Anyone else noticed how he doesn't say "cya next time, fuckers" anymore? 😂

  • @male_maid5951
    @male_maid5951 Рік тому

    multiplayer campaign - the defensive sieges is far more important here. i understand this is nott part of the video, but thought it should be noted

  • @billbaggins7355
    @billbaggins7355 Рік тому

    Yeah if you don't deal with Skrolk early like that you're gonna be chasing like four of his armies around while he absolutely ravages your territory.

  • @marleysouza3205
    @marleysouza3205 Рік тому

    for some reason I didn't get enough experience after the first fight to level up

  • @Haromour
    @Haromour Рік тому

    as a skrolk main my biggest concern was Gor-Rok, WHII he was a pain, but in WHIII he just is so passive and easy to bait it's lame.

  • @Wrathful_Scythe
    @Wrathful_Scythe Рік тому +2

    My current empire campaign is nearing its end and I was thinking to give the lizards another look. This made my choice quite easy.

    • @Jaann1919
      @Jaann1919 Рік тому +3

      Don't sleep on Oxyotl and Tehenauin

    • @morgothbauglir8706
      @morgothbauglir8706 Рік тому +2

      sleep on oxyotl and thenauin and embrace big frog go boom and lizard too stubborn to die

  • @magnussthered
    @magnussthered Рік тому

    Everyone is saying this campaign is easy yet here I am getting my base attacked by rakath, luther harkon, bretonnia, and beastmen all at the same time at like turn 10......

  • @benjaminleuze8575
    @benjaminleuze8575 Рік тому

    Can you do skrolk next?

  • @ChewySmokey
    @ChewySmokey Рік тому

    tried opening strat by killing rats to the south by turn 3, 2 full stacks of rats come knocking by turn 6 and start rolling my shit as more come each turn. not sure how I'm struggling with Gor-Rok so damn much

  • @senshibat8920
    @senshibat8920 Рік тому

    Itza Great.

  • @trishgellam6516
    @trishgellam6516 Рік тому

    Great starting advice.

  • @fatwe1992
    @fatwe1992 Рік тому

    Skrolk review next? Nasty lizard things die!

  • @brickphone8069
    @brickphone8069 7 місяців тому

    Ok why tf is my Gor Rok’s health so low, he started at 2500ish health and hasn’t gone up since, I don’t understand how you increase your units in this game

  • @taurvanath
    @taurvanath Рік тому

    I got there and Skrulk wasnt there.

  • @Boingy420
    @Boingy420 Рік тому +1

    I dunno if it's been said or done. But did Legend consider doing a campaign review for Settra?

  • @Slycarlo
    @Slycarlo Рік тому +5

    Do Settra next, he is the most difficult to play without any mods, youre sorrounded by other factions which has much better starting roster like Skarbrand in the north and less than 20 rounds Arkhan will blitz you with good full stack while you are busy dealing with Vlad in your southern border

    • @maximcharest
      @maximcharest Рік тому +5

      Turn 3 get rid of Mannfred. After that blitz for Volkmar. Get ready for Arkhan and his 2 fulls stacks of thrash units. After that Skarbrand should arrive and bit later TikTaqTo and a bit after that Repanse. Never forget that you are Settra King of Kings and everything should go well.

    • @benjaminleuze8575
      @benjaminleuze8575 Рік тому +1

      He already did settra

    • @Romczy
      @Romczy Рік тому +3

      Settra does not surf

  • @forsenlevel2425
    @forsenlevel2425 Рік тому +8

    Rakarth next maybe?

    • @holdinmcgroin8639
      @holdinmcgroin8639 Рік тому +5

      certified forsenLevel campaign

    • @forsenlevel2425
      @forsenlevel2425 Рік тому +5

      @@holdinmcgroin8639 we are reaching max level soon

    • @mattandrews2594
      @mattandrews2594 Рік тому +1

      Legend decided the order probably months ago, and they come out in all likelihood on a predetermined schedule. You do then realise comments like this are pointless?

    • @forsenlevel2425
      @forsenlevel2425 Рік тому +1

      @@mattandrews2594 I am leveling so hard right now forsenLevel

    • @googleandsusansucks
      @googleandsusansucks Рік тому +1

      @@forsenlevel2425 Ranrok Dragon PepeLaugh

  • @FraLoddo98
    @FraLoddo98 Рік тому

    Still waiting for the player anti-Bias, just absurd

  • @vladdrakul7851
    @vladdrakul7851 Рік тому

    What do I think?? I think Legend comes from *'a land down under, where women glow and men thunder!'* G'day to all you Bruces and Sheilas and my Sydney living uncle Digby! Gore Rocks!

  • @Nemesisboonta
    @Nemesisboonta Рік тому +4

    rock hard

  • @davidhenriksson285
    @davidhenriksson285 Рік тому

    You forgot his magic items

  • @Christian2k02
    @Christian2k02 Рік тому

    have you made one for Nakai?

    • @arnehenkler8391
      @arnehenkler8391 Рік тому

      Did you know that UA-cam has a search function?

    • @Christian2k02
      @Christian2k02 Рік тому

      Did you know it’s not illegal to ask a simple question inside of a place where you can legit comment any thing you want?

  • @sobmadrox
    @sobmadrox Рік тому

    sEventee dubbl3d iz wun hundrid an fyftee

  • @Agarrus2530
    @Agarrus2530 Рік тому

    cant make it there on turn 3 even with route marcher

    • @Agarrus2530
      @Agarrus2530 Рік тому

      NM i made it there. Skolk was already out though

    • @NeptuniumNecromancy
      @NeptuniumNecromancy 10 місяців тому

      How did you make by that time, I wasn’t able to (I was also using route marcher)

  • @zkyrus1873
    @zkyrus1873 Рік тому

    LMAO LORD KROAK

  • @valeclaw1697
    @valeclaw1697 Рік тому

    Dealing with early Skaven as Kroq and Gor has frustrated tf out of me given they're just better at moving around the fucking jungle than you

  • @MrPink-qe1rm
    @MrPink-qe1rm Рік тому

    Wasnt much of a miss but gor roks weapon.....really its not much to talk about.

  • @TalosLordOfNight
    @TalosLordOfNight Рік тому +1

    I would argue this is the easiest campaign in the game

  • @pascaldifolco4611
    @pascaldifolco4611 Рік тому

    I think Gor Rok should recruit Kroak a bit later (say level 5 to 10), as it is it makes the early game super easy, Kroak just kill all the enemy chaff

  • @cosmicowl42069
    @cosmicowl42069 Рік тому

    lmao while I appreciate the trick start tips, Itza is already the easiest campaign in the game

  • @shaner1912
    @shaner1912 Рік тому

    Huzzah

  • @loboxthy2040
    @loboxthy2040 Рік тому

    hello

  • @omarahmedx
    @omarahmedx Рік тому

    It's no wonder Legend gets bored with his campaigns at around turn 40 or so. By doing that start and eliminating one of your main threats as early as turn 3 you've essentially taken out a lot of the early game challenge from this campaign. While it's useful to know things work under the hood I feel like this type of gameplay hurts your campaigns and therefore your overall enjoyment of the game more on the long run.