You are correct, completely devastating. It is so sad to know how these so-called “honorable men” are objectifying women. I am a man and would never abuse my power that way. Trust me, his internal thoughts are much darker than what he texts.
Because of this and many more instances of reasonable doubt that have been exposed in this case. You don't need secret meetings of conspiracy when enough of the players have the same agenda. Police protect police all too often. Hopefully, the body camera will have just as significant impact on yhst as it has in catching cops in lies. Laws should be passed in every state, making body cameras necessary in every encounter.
So based on proctor text exchange, he is testifying that by January 29th, 10pm when he is texting his buddies about what happened, he had "gathered" enough evidence to be convinced she was guilty?? They hadn't even "collected" most of the evidence of "tail light" yet by his account. His bias and tunnel vision is so obvious and super unprofessional, and now he is trying to back peddle.
He took the word of Jen McCabe and then made the pieces fit. Thats why Colin never came up in any of the witness statements. The tow truck driver will be called in for testimony in Karen’s case in chief and that’s going to tie it all together. He’s the smoking gun.
"Of course it was undetermined. She's a wack job." The conversation was about the medical examiner, not Karen Read. Clearly a lie. I believe that Proctor was hiding the fact that he not only talks trash about suspects, but about his colleagues as well.
The tow truck driver is the smoking gun in my opinion. Cracked and missing a piece is not how I would describe that taillight. It's very clear that Canton PD has interfered with this case in order to make sure Karen is found guilty. How evil are these people? How evil do you have to be to set someone up and lie in court after swearing to tell the truth? Hopefully the feds investigation will result in some true justice for John .
Yez absolutely 💯! That's my thinking exactly. The feds were already investigating Canton PD for corruption when this happened and I hear that they are testifying for the defense as well! They need to aquit this woman so the REAL trial can start & finally get justice for this man! And I bet Karen will be testifying against these scumbags as well!
Agree but that guy was actually a cop not the tow truck driver (who hasn't testified, not sure if he will). Notably, he was a cop from a different jurisdiction, called in only because Karen's parents house was in his town, not Canton PD or one of these MSP people we've been hearing from.
@@turtletruthabuse of police? Proctor is getting what he gives. Every one of his cases should have a second look; he has zero integrity and even less professionalism or morals. Maybe he will get lucky and end up w an illness that requires his colon to fail, if that will somehow teach him empathy. Did he really match hah looks & accent‽ He goes too fah and acts like he has some personal past issue w Read.
I was outright laughing at quite a few parts like this. The other one was him taking about integrity being doing the right thing when no one is watching.... Then goes on later to say the investigation was performed with integrity.... Sure bro. The worst part? I'm not sure this guy even really sees where he was wrong. Or he's really good at playing like "what? So yeah I know of (and have family close to some) Alberts', doesn't mean I'm conflicted.". Which could very much be the case with many of the LE in this case and probably others in this area which is why this all got as far as it did. I'd write them all off as idiots and incompetent, but they do seem to understand how procedure should be and how to investigate things when it comes to other ppl. Lastly, all I hear in Proctor's "apology" (?) was him saying words are regrettable cuz he got caught and they're being exposed. Regrettable is probably accurate, he regrets texting that on his personal phone (or other things which makes his phone able to be searched). Wishes he didn't do it, not that he's sorry about it. Bet if we could see current texts or calls from him, he's still saying the same kind of things about defendant and now Jackson too I'm sure. I could excuse some swear words and saying he hates Yanetti and his client. The "c" word is just like wow, and your this person? Doesn't seem impartial. But the giving out of her medical info in reference to her hotness or not was just over the line in human decency! So beyond even juvenile. Just so scummy and vile. And I feel like there is a high possibility there are jurors who know someone with similar health issues or other chronic issues and probably have as little tolerance for such talk as I do. On top of all that, he's taking about all this with buddies.. An active case with ppl outside the department. They think they are above the law and will never have to face the music, that's why he has no shame doing this.
Even worse, he decided within hours that Karen did it, it was murder, & case closed. Before all the evidence was collected, before all the interviews, before they knew how he died, or the manner of death. That is clear confirmation bias. He also did everything he could to protect the McCade family & friends.
I don't wanna hear "it was unprofessional, I regret it" from him. In the words of judge V from child support court, "Don't be sorry, just don't do it". Just wow...
Though as disgusting & disturbing as his texts were, that's not the main problem. The problem is that no one that shows that level of contempt, disdain, & (in his own words) HATE for this defendant & her lawyer CANNOT be an impartial, unbiased, and un-prejudiced investigator. You don't have to like someone to treat them fairly & act professional, but you CANNOT have so much hate and disdain for someone that you are willing to state it in an open group message that includes your superiors officers.
And other health issues. So messed up. Just scummy human behavior. That was so beyond for me. And I see no actual sorrow or apology, just didn't like it's all found out. Doubt he's changed his ways, I'm sure he's still taking about ppl like this now.
@@PsychNurseExplains - There was NO CONFESSION. The people that claim they heard a so called: I hit him, I hit him, I hit him were not credible. No one said they heard that until now. It was never said during the Grand Jury testimony or to any of the investors during their interviews. The defense read Jen's original statements & she never said "I hit him." Karen was hysterical & drunk asking a question: "Could I have hit him" , did I hit him', etc. You should watch Jen McCabes cross by the defense. It was very telling & she changed her story from what she originally said. She lied... Beyond the changed stories, Karen was going crazy, yelling random things, drunk, & was admitted to hospital because they were afraid she was going to hurt herself. That's hardly reliable. No confession...
I think he is leaning on the fact that he is only an asshole to people who kill cops (according to him). But obviously he just hates women who don’t do exactly what he wants.
@@lenser.competition They are expected to be presented Today or Tomorrow as Evidence in upcoming proceedings. If u search they r out there I have heard them.
This is absolutely vile. Not only have the prosecution failed john Okeefe, but they deserve to be sued for every penny. I hope proctor, boston PD, local PD and everybody involved in the prosecution are named and sued by both johns family and karen.
Proctor is a prick! He’s only saying he’s not proud of himself because he got caught had to read texts out loud . Awful that her family had to hear those texts. Also horrible for the O’Keefe family and the horrible way the investigation was handled. This guy needs to be fired along with all the other officers involved.
I just don't understand the thought process behind charging Karen Read with murder. If they had kept it at vehicular manslaughter and called it a tragic accident, they probably could have flown it in under the radar and saved themselves the embarrassment of publicly shitting the bed like this.
This smells like a giant conspiracy. I think they(the police involved and maybe the prosecutors) thought they could frame her for this and she’d plead to a manslaughter charge.
His response to bad texts was so scripted. He kept repeating "it has nothing to do with facts in evidence and integrity of the investigation". I know you have to figure out what to say, but he sounded like broken record
@@kathymazzola1200the definition he gave to, I think, Jackson was amazing "doing the right thing when no one is watching". Providing the kindling to burn all his credibility. Personally, I don't trust much from him. A lot of evidence I hear now is filtered through "could proctor have messed with this, touched it, planted it, etc."
And he’s completely wrong that it has nothing to do with the “facts or evidence” it’s calling his character into question. Or rather, for me anyway, denying its existence entirely.
Cops do this all the time. They don’t have a case. They overcharge and hope the defendant will plea. That’s how innocent people end up in prison. Thank God Karen had the funds to fight this. This was never supposed to go to trial.
They called about confiscating her SUV on Jan 29, before driving out to interview her, so all they had at that point was initial info about his injuries, that a clear glass was found near his body, that he was missing one shoe, and the casual, unrecorded interviews with the Alberts and McCabes. That's all they had when they decided she must have hit him with her car.
It was clear confirmation bias. The case was closed before they even knew how he died or the manner of death. Before they interviewed everyone & collected evidence. But this case was not compromised & done with the utmost integrity... YEAH RIGHT! 🙄🤔
Not only that but it is the prosecution who is kind of at fault. Judge met with the lawyers to figure out how much time they needed but apparently the prosecution failed to inform the judge of the motion taking more time, or failed to calculate the time it would take to voir dire the experts, etc.
@@TheLuceon Over a month in and they *still* haven’t called the medical examiner. 60 witnesses deep and the DA hasn’t even established the manner and cause of death. To me it seems like you should definitively establish pretty early on in a murder trial that someone was murdered.
Excellent recap! ❤️ Proctor sunk this case, IMO. They never looked to anyone else besides Karen and his blatant disdain for her. All I could imagine this turns into is a “Deprevation of Rights Under the Color of Law” in a case brought by the Feds.
OMG, I am so disgusted. There is no way the jury is not impacted by this. I am sorry KR and JO. Seriously, the ME should not be bullied into her or his findings. No one can eat after this testimony.
Imagine being the defendant. You're hearing some guy seriously trashtalk you. On the other hand, it's really good for your defense. How would you feel?
Nailed it. I think Proctor is also misleading as far as damage to Officer O’Keefes car however as his evidence photographs do not focus on the correct area of impact. Proctors ‘close up’ photos are of the cars bumper and not the middle of the boot door which would’ve been the impacted area if the tail light has hit it. You can see how far the car backed up due to the tire marks in the snow, then taking into account the distance from the tires to the actual taillight and then how high this is from the ground then I would have liked to have seen more photos of the boot door area to be sure of no damage as he claims. Lally yet again zoomed over important testimony regarding Officer O’Keefes phone and how this came to be in the possession of the police. Last we heard Kerry Roberts handed it over to an EMT now Proctor collects it from Goode. As we all know the Ring footage could be accessed from this phone and Lally was pushing this point until Kerry’s testimony and then Lally seemed to drop the point all together. More questionable antics that make me wonder, is Lally really searching for the truth or just a truth that fits??
"I don't have an explanation" for his messages. You know, it wasn't just one statement in one text that was unprofessional, but a pattern of speech in many emails to different people. I wasn't just being unprofessional in a moment, but he is simply, and completely, unprofessional in general. THAT is the explanation.
Absolutely true! At best this brings so many cases into question. Worse this corruption could have major ramifications. Money, Time, lives all wasted or egregiously mishandled
Trooper Proctor is a disgrace. He should be fired. Wow. Talking to his sister and his wife and other friends about the case he’s investigating? Is he trying to establish an alibi? Has he been ruled out as a suspect? I hope he loses his job. He deserves to.
How on earth does the judge not declare a mistrial and ask to see the D/A in her chambers immediately??? The wrong doing by all of the investigators hits you in the face daily. These people should all be investigated at the highest level!!!!
You nailed it especially at the very end!! As a Bostonian, Proctor really is an embarrassment to the Mass state police. Mass state police were investigated as well for an overtime scandal, it really makes you question their trust. It’s a shame these cops make the good cops job harder.
As a NYer, I don't have much respect for our State Troopers. To many negative experiences, the power really seems to go to their heads and throw their weight around trampling on rights. I wonder how it is in other states or if we see similar issues perhaps with supervisors etc.
The sad thing is that his children are going to see how their father is garbage. Also, JOK is never going to see justice because of Proctor being a POS.
I just wanted to congratulate you on a brilliant synopsis of a very difficult day.🎉 I love your reviews. ❤. I think they're great and with good humour.In very difficult circumstances.❤ Thank you.
Let’s all remember John Okeefs life was taken. Regardless of Proctors part, we still owe to find the truth as much as possible. What that is is still up in the air.
I'm half way through day 23, and I can't believe it was actually worse than day 22. There is absolutely no chance Karen is found guilty at this point. This is the most insane case I have ever seen. Such a clear case of corruption. I hope proctors eventual trial is televised too!
What a disgrace the MSP and the Norfolk County District Attorney’s office, is their an ounce of integrity anywhere in government anymore what an embarrassment this whole shit show the cops the D A and most of all the judge
There is two things I would like to know. How often the C word appears in his text messages. Was it a word commonly used by him, or just reserved for mrs Read. And second: the amount of texts with sister was huge, much more than with wife. Is it comparable to other timeframes, or was it only that often during the case?
This judge makes me remember how much I loved living in Boston and how I found some Bostonians too harsh and direct … no beating around the bushes… speak louder, read the word… I would not wanna ever face her 😅
We had a sheriff here (in western Oregon) who was abusing his power to hurt women, selling guns and drugs from lock up etc... they just moved him to a more rural area. I love our local cops and most of our sheriff's. But it's hard to back the blue when there are so many awful ones and they cover for each other. Proctor is a creep and they should fire the entire group of them. Anyone who knew and said nothing too
@fafafohigh69 yeah, that whole union thing needs to go I think. I see why it started but it's an absolute monster now with too much power. If it keeps cops who are committing crimes (the thing they are supposed to be literally fighting, their only job) from facing consequences? It needs to go
When the prosecution rests, can the defense safely rest and hand it over to the jury to get it over with, because there's no need to drag out the trial any further? Or do they want to stake the vampire and scatter the ashes?
I think law enforcement in this case should all be held accountable for their disgusting and blatant abuse of power. This case STINKS to HIGH HEAVEN and I hope the Good Lord smells it and intervenes. I’ll be praying for it 🙏
It is horrible that Karen and her family has to hear these disgusting texts. I would not be able to contain my emotions if someone spoke of my daughter in this way. John would not have been fine with behavior.
What about the O'Keefe family? Can you imagine hearing this BS & realizing how bad the investigator's screwed up this case. If the police convinced them that Karen intentionally did this, I wonder if they have changed their mind? The entire investigation was full of mistakes, many conflicts of interest, & there was blatant confirmation bias. With every new prosecution witness, the defense's case get stronger. The poor family isn't going to get the answers they deserve.
I’ve lived in dighton my whole life, the cops in dighton are honest peeps, I believe him when he says that it was cracked with a small chunk missing not a big chunk that is clearly missing now.. dighton wont lie for them!
All these guys need to go back to junior high. Actually I don't even know that junior high school boys talk like that. How embarrassed his family should be.
The defense needs Mona Lisa Vito to come and reveal another model of SUV with the same taillight. However, I don't really think this would alter the fact that reasonable doubt has been established many times in the case except in the drunk driving case.
Proctor is horrible. He needs to be fired. He shouldn't even be behind the desk. AND I think they should use this case for training purposes for the police dept. Don't be like this guy!!
The only person that attempted to save John was Karen, she gave mouth to mouth which was effective since the Hospital gave a 10% chance of recovery. If John pulled through his testimony would be crucial as to what happened on that day. Unprofessional comments, BS he should have never sent his buds any sort of message concerning a police investigation EVER, that alone she get him fired forthwith, and if his union had any morals would not fight for him to keep his job he should be lucky to hang on to his pension.
I have absolutely no doubt seeing him plant that taillight all of his cases should and must be re-examined I truly hope his parents are seeing what kind of son they really have
I just don't see any universe he keeps his job here. He not only put this case in jeapordy but every case he's worked that he talked about to buddies and family. You just don't walk away from something like this.
@@Katosepewell with his superiors liking his messages and knowing for years about all of this and even knowing the FBI is investigating he still seems to have his job now so i don't think they'll do anything to him sadly! Plus, i think that whole department is pretty shady its looking like so they think he's done nothing wrong! They don't see the problem with any of the things any of their officers had done in this case! Really, makes me wonder and worry what they've done in the past with their other cases! Exp if it involved an"outsider" or someone they simply didn't care for! Idk if she is guilty or not yet but i do feel so badly for her and even more so for John O Keefe and his family This is def the craziest case I've ever seen! Sorry this is so long lol had to get it out 😂 Have A great day whoever takes the time to read my rant lol
@@heatherwelch7190 You could be right. Never can fully trust the system. That said, if I were a betting man, I'd guess he's on administrative leave (still employed) because firing him would cause a lot more problems for the trial and federal investigation. Doubt he'll be employed after that point but hey, like you said, the whole department is shady so what do I know? Fingers crossed though!
A lot of those messages where in a group text with his superiors. Not once did they reprimand him for the way he was handling the case, speaking about Karen, his clear confirmation bias, or possibly compromising the investigation. If the FBI wasn't investigating this, we wouldn't even know about all these issues. It's scary to think about how many other cases he might of mismanaged. Are there innocent people in jail because of him?
This judge should have completely recyses herself as she's close to the Alberts & McCabes and their kids even call her auntie. We can inly hope that the jury also sees how bias this judge is. Its so bad that i believe some charges should be brought against the jusge after this sham trual is over. Hiw tf is it ok for the prosecution to bring withess after witness with their testimonies going clise to 30 days now but the defense has to sum up his case with whatever time is left in June? Hiw is that even a thing thats allowed? What gives this judge the right ti tell the jury they'll be done by a certain time when the prisecusion isn't even finished calling THEIR witnesses! This is a kangaroo court from beginning to end & i oray the jurors that are their arent part of this whole corrupt system as well!
Very hard to prove perjury, usually doesn't happen. Easy excuse is I don't recall/ remember. BUT the jury sees what we see and can judge for themselves what amount of credibility to give to any, all, or non of a person's testimony... And judge their possible bias. I really hope Proctor will lose his job and others looked into even more. But salt, in sure yes not the only one like this, just the stupid one that got caught.
There may be 10 women selected for jury duty in this trial, but surely we won’t know the final makeup of the jury until both sides rest and the alternates are selected, right? Some of those women will likely end up as alternates.
Just cuz there are men didn't mean they won't have issues with how Proctor talks about a female. I know quite a few guys who would be so disgusted, and they joke around with each other plenty!
Did anyone notice that Proctor said karen Reads tail light was 'CRACKED', then later on in his evidence he said her Tail Light was BROKEN', The first time it was CRACKED, The second time it was BROKEN, I think thats worth of defence Clarifying, or bringing to the Jury's notice at the very least.
So when trooper Proctor is talking about the morning and afternoon of January 29, he reports that there was one shoe at the hospital and one shoe at the scene. Then later, a third shoe shows up?
What does it say about Lally that he 1) brought this case to trial, even if he was pressured to do so, pretty sure I'd quit my job before argue this and ruin my career 2) he faced the texts head on but didn't do it with an ounce of humanity, it felt like a canned PR statement when he really deserves Karen the biggest of apologies, at the VERY least. This is an insane embarrassment to many people, in many ways. Not only did Proctor say these things, but Lally made him read it into record. And I think he SHOULD face the absolute garbage he said, but I hate that he had to for Karen's sake.
I don't know if defense counsel was prevented from asking him to elaborate on words used as to their meaning, e.g. " Detective, what did you mean when texting whackjob, c¥nt, b*tch... Are these everyday words for you?" If someone called his wife or sister that vulgarity, and tried to charactetize that as regrettable, juvenile, joking.. would he then let it go as excusable? Additionally, his claim that the 'homeowner' is exempt from investigation because he's LEO, screams of cover-up, whether it was or not. Throw in failure to secure crime scene, I cant see a murder conviction coming from this. Proctor has lost all credibility. It's almost irrelevant whether Read hit him or not; the Defense only needs to get the jury to see reasonable doubt to find her not guilty (which doesn't mean "innocent ", but not proven by the evidence presented. Investigation is tainted, therefore evidence obtained is suspect.
How do you singlehandedly tank a case? Be like Proctor here. He's sinking it all and taking the entire police department and investigative integrity with him.
What do you think? Was this as devastating a day as I think it was?
You are correct, completely devastating. It is so sad to know how these so-called “honorable men” are objectifying women. I am a man and would never abuse my power that way. Trust me, his internal thoughts are much darker than what he texts.
Yes!
Yep
Absolutely... disastrous.
I believe 10 of the jurors are women, who most definitely will not look kindly at Trooper Procter's text messages.
Absolutely devastating!
I believe 10 of the jurors are women, who will most definitely not look kindly at those horrific text messages...
THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO WAY SHE CAN BE FOUND GUILTY AFTER THAT. No wonder so many destroyed their devices.
I agree 100%!
Because of this and many more instances of reasonable doubt that have been exposed in this case. You don't need secret meetings of conspiracy when enough of the players have the same agenda. Police protect police all too often. Hopefully, the body camera will have just as significant impact on yhst as it has in catching cops in lies. Laws should be passed in every state, making body cameras necessary in every encounter.
So based on proctor text exchange, he is testifying that by January 29th, 10pm when he is texting his buddies about what happened, he had "gathered" enough evidence to be convinced she was guilty?? They hadn't even "collected" most of the evidence of "tail light" yet by his account. His bias and tunnel vision is so obvious and super unprofessional, and now he is trying to back peddle.
Great point! It’s clear he was framing her. I can’t believe how dirty these Police Officers are acting! Gross
He never searched the house even when he KNEW John had been invited in for drinks.
He took the word of Jen McCabe and then made the pieces fit. Thats why Colin never came up in any of the witness statements. The tow truck driver will be called in for testimony in Karen’s case in chief and that’s going to tie it all together. He’s the smoking gun.
@PamelaH_HappyVibes He told Deighton PD that they were seizing a vehicle used in a homicide, while he was on the way to Mr. Read's house.
This case is simple if you remove the FKR lies.
"Of course it was undetermined. She's a wack job." The conversation was about the medical examiner, not Karen Read. Clearly a lie. I believe that Proctor was hiding the fact that he not only talks trash about suspects, but about his colleagues as well.
@@swcomer I was wondering if anyone else caught that or if I had misheard something. Thanks for bringing this up!
The tow truck driver is the smoking gun in my opinion. Cracked and missing a piece is not how I would describe that taillight. It's very clear that Canton PD has interfered with this case in order to make sure Karen is found guilty. How evil are these people? How evil do you have to be to set someone up and lie in court after swearing to tell the truth? Hopefully the feds investigation will result in some true justice for John .
Yez absolutely 💯! That's my thinking exactly. The feds were already investigating Canton PD for corruption when this happened and I hear that they are testifying for the defense as well! They need to aquit this woman so the REAL trial can start & finally get justice for this man! And I bet Karen will be testifying against these scumbags as well!
Agree but that guy was actually a cop not the tow truck driver (who hasn't testified, not sure if he will). Notably, he was a cop from a different jurisdiction, called in only because Karen's parents house was in his town, not Canton PD or one of these MSP people we've been hearing from.
Police abuse is an addiction, repeated!
- USMC (Semper Fidelis) SGT E-5 (5811)
@@turtletruthabuse of police? Proctor is getting what he gives. Every one of his cases should have a second look; he has zero integrity and even less professionalism or morals. Maybe he will get lucky and end up w an illness that requires his colon to fail, if that will somehow teach him empathy. Did he really match hah looks & accent‽ He goes too fah and acts like he has some personal past issue w Read.
How many other people have they framed?
“I would never share specifics of a case with friends or anyone”
*proceeds to share specifics of the case*
I was outright laughing at quite a few parts like this. The other one was him taking about integrity being doing the right thing when no one is watching.... Then goes on later to say the investigation was performed with integrity.... Sure bro. The worst part? I'm not sure this guy even really sees where he was wrong. Or he's really good at playing like "what? So yeah I know of (and have family close to some) Alberts', doesn't mean I'm conflicted.". Which could very much be the case with many of the LE in this case and probably others in this area which is why this all got as far as it did. I'd write them all off as idiots and incompetent, but they do seem to understand how procedure should be and how to investigate things when it comes to other ppl. Lastly, all I hear in Proctor's "apology" (?) was him saying words are regrettable cuz he got caught and they're being exposed. Regrettable is probably accurate, he regrets texting that on his personal phone (or other things which makes his phone able to be searched). Wishes he didn't do it, not that he's sorry about it. Bet if we could see current texts or calls from him, he's still saying the same kind of things about defendant and now Jackson too I'm sure. I could excuse some swear words and saying he hates Yanetti and his client. The "c" word is just like wow, and your this person? Doesn't seem impartial. But the giving out of her medical info in reference to her hotness or not was just over the line in human decency! So beyond even juvenile. Just so scummy and vile. And I feel like there is a high possibility there are jurors who know someone with similar health issues or other chronic issues and probably have as little tolerance for such talk as I do. On top of all that, he's taking about all this with buddies.. An active case with ppl outside the department. They think they are above the law and will never have to face the music, that's why he has no shame doing this.
Even worse, he decided within hours that Karen did it, it was murder, & case closed. Before all the evidence was collected, before all the interviews, before they knew how he died, or the manner of death. That is clear confirmation bias. He also did everything he could to protect the McCade family & friends.
I don't wanna hear "it was unprofessional, I regret it" from him. In the words of judge V from child support court, "Don't be sorry, just don't do it". Just wow...
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These are only regrettable because he was caught and having to read them aloud!!
Though as disgusting & disturbing as his texts were, that's not the main problem. The problem is that no one that shows that level of contempt, disdain, & (in his own words) HATE for this defendant & her lawyer CANNOT be an impartial, unbiased, and un-prejudiced investigator. You don't have to like someone to treat them fairly & act professional, but you CANNOT have so much hate and disdain for someone that you are willing to state it in an open group message that includes your superiors officers.
Proctor can't be something his not, which is a real law enforcer, what we are seeing and hearing is who he really is!!!!
Completely agree. You can see he doesn't even see where the problem is. Even if appearance of conflict, he's like nah, it was fine. Cuz I say so.
Dehumanizing the victim to justify his obviously corrupt behavior.
Wow, he made fun of her Multiple Sclerosis symptoms. That's pretty fucked up. Outside of this case, that is a big sign of someones character. Gross.
And other health issues. So messed up. Just scummy human behavior. That was so beyond for me. And I see no actual sorrow or apology, just didn't like it's all found out. Doubt he's changed his ways, I'm sure he's still taking about ppl like this now.
Dehumanizing someone makes it easier for a victimizer to justify their own behavior towards their victims.
Proctor testified through his texts that he had the entire case solved on day 1. Wow 😮
Police abuse is an addiction, repeated!
- USMC (Semper Fidelis) SGT E-5 (5811)
It’s simple w multiple Confessions like this case
Imagine the case solve rate of his department! They've got time to spare. To look for nudes.
@@hkr667 I think he said none have been seen, he has to look at ever picture so if nude in there it has to see it or he is not doing his job
@@PsychNurseExplains - There was NO CONFESSION. The people that claim they heard a so called: I hit him, I hit him, I hit him were not credible. No one said they heard that until now. It was never said during the Grand Jury testimony or to any of the investors during their interviews. The defense read Jen's original statements & she never said "I hit him." Karen was hysterical & drunk asking a question: "Could I have hit him" , did I hit him', etc. You should watch Jen McCabes cross by the defense. It was very telling & she changed her story from what she originally said. She lied...
Beyond the changed stories, Karen was going crazy, yelling random things, drunk, & was admitted to hospital because they were afraid she was going to hurt herself. That's hardly reliable. No confession...
I’m convinced by the context he’s calling the ME a “whack job” and tryna somewhat salvage his reputation by saying he was referring to KR
Because it’s sooo much better if he’s only referring to one woman in a derogatory manner 🙄
I think he is leaning on the fact that he is only an asshole to people who kill cops (according to him). But obviously he just hates women who don’t do exactly what he wants.
@dunkinqueen2831 and his wife is standing by him.
I wonder how much he abuses her to have her so brainwashed.
Agreed
His credibility is shot everyone could see he lied sitting next to a judge
I've said it before, but people need to be fired, and charged over this! It's gone from farcical to criminal
Those are tame next to her Voicemails left immediately after she hit him 54 VILE and Untrue Lies or VM or messaged to him
@@PsychNurseExplains Hi, sorry, who ? And where are these messages ?
@@lenser.competition They are expected to be presented Today or Tomorrow as Evidence in upcoming proceedings. If u search they r out there I have heard them.
This is absolutely vile. Not only have the prosecution failed john Okeefe, but they deserve to be sued for every penny.
I hope proctor, boston PD, local PD and everybody involved in the prosecution are named and sued by both johns family and karen.
Proctor is a prick! He’s only saying he’s not proud of himself because he got caught had to read texts out loud .
Awful that her family had to hear those texts.
Also horrible for the O’Keefe family and the horrible way the investigation was handled. This guy needs to be fired along with all the other officers involved.
It's funny how people only think their comments are inappropriate if they become public
These were “jokes “ to them.
We ALL COULD LEARN THIS LESSON!
Kindness costs nothing. Why would anyone speak on anyone this way😢😭💔
I guarantee you if you went through my phone, you wouldn't find anything close to this 🤷♀️
@@SweetMelissa1775 because you’re a decent human being.
Ironically, as much as Proctor trashed Karen and her medical issues, he ended up being the one sitting himself.
Lol😂, he's the living embodiment of Cartman but w a Bahstahn accent. RESPECT MY AUTHORITAHHH!!
What exactly is her medical condition?
And possibly setting her free! If she was guilty of anything, he effectively set his case against on fire. So frustrating!
She has MS- multible surgeries, an ostomy bag. More I suspect. Suffice to say she has been through a lot
MS and Chrons disease. I feel for her
I just don't understand the thought process behind charging Karen Read with murder. If they had kept it at vehicular manslaughter and called it a tragic accident, they probably could have flown it in under the radar and saved themselves the embarrassment of publicly shitting the bed like this.
This is a conspiracy and the medical examiner wasn't on board, so he called her a whackjob too
This smells like a giant conspiracy. I think they(the police involved and maybe the prosecutors) thought they could frame her for this and she’d plead to a manslaughter charge.
His response to bad texts was so scripted. He kept repeating "it has nothing to do with facts in evidence and integrity of the investigation". I know you have to figure out what to say, but he sounded like broken record
proctor is a joke and a disgrace to police everywhere
He definitely was prepped by an attorney
Integrity! I almost choked when he said that word. Does he even know what it means?
@@kathymazzola1200the definition he gave to, I think, Jackson was amazing "doing the right thing when no one is watching". Providing the kindling to burn all his credibility. Personally, I don't trust much from him. A lot of evidence I hear now is filtered through "could proctor have messed with this, touched it, planted it, etc."
And he’s completely wrong that it has nothing to do with the “facts or evidence” it’s calling his character into question. Or rather, for me anyway, denying its existence entirely.
Why did they think that they had a case against KR? This is gross. I’m done with this prosecution.
Cops do this all the time. They don’t have a case. They overcharge and hope the defendant will plea. That’s how innocent people end up in prison. Thank God Karen had the funds to fight this. This was never supposed to go to trial.
a dead cop?? they had to frame someone and this poor lady was unlucky enough to fall into Proctors web?😮
They called about confiscating her SUV on Jan 29, before driving out to interview her, so all they had at that point was initial info about his injuries, that a clear glass was found near his body, that he was missing one shoe, and the casual, unrecorded interviews with the Alberts and McCabes. That's all they had when they decided she must have hit him with her car.
@@meganriley253 he is never going to get past the house not being searched.
It was clear confirmation bias. The case was closed before they even knew how he died or the manner of death. Before they interviewed everyone & collected evidence. But this case was not compromised & done with the utmost integrity... YEAH RIGHT! 🙄🤔
He and his supervisors should get axed. The incompetence of how the system uses our tax dollars.
The judge being mad that the jury can’t deliberate yet as if the prosecution hasn’t gone 20+ days???
Not only that but it is the prosecution who is kind of at fault. Judge met with the lawyers to figure out how much time they needed but apparently the prosecution failed to inform the judge of the motion taking more time, or failed to calculate the time it would take to voir dire the experts, etc.
@@TheLuceon Over a month in and they *still* haven’t called the medical examiner. 60 witnesses deep and the DA hasn’t even established the manner and cause of death. To me it seems like you should definitively establish pretty early on in a murder trial that someone was murdered.
They were beyond recovering 2 weeks ago, an absolute fiasco....
Proctor bringing out the tail light thing really felt like when they tried to make OJ put on that glove…
Hey, if it don't fit...lol
I love how he tried to act like he was careful with the evidence. Like he's so profesh 😂
Having Trooper Proctor present the headlight felt a lot like put the gun in a shooters hand.
Excellent recap! ❤️
Proctor sunk this case, IMO. They never looked to anyone else besides Karen and his blatant disdain for her. All I could imagine this turns into is a “Deprevation of Rights Under the Color of Law” in a case brought by the Feds.
You're joking right? Or you really have faith in cops investigating other cops. The thing blue line is thicker than you think
How do these Police Officers still have jobs after these text messages came to light? There has only been 1 honest Police Officer on the stand!
Proctor, the gift that keeps on giving!
Ever watched a man and knew that you were watching the single worst day of his life?
Even the friend thought the people in the house were implicated but no one surched the house....😮
OMG, I am so disgusted. There is no way the jury is not impacted by this. I am sorry KR and JO. Seriously, the ME should not be bullied into her or his findings. No one can eat after this testimony.
Imagine being the defendant. You're hearing some guy seriously trashtalk you. On the other hand, it's really good for your defense. How would you feel?
Only just starting the video and I’m already embarrassed for these clowns.
Nailed it.
I think Proctor is also misleading as far as damage to Officer O’Keefes car however as his evidence photographs do not focus on the correct area of impact. Proctors ‘close up’ photos are of the cars bumper and not the middle of the boot door which would’ve been the impacted area if the tail light has hit it. You can see how far the car backed up due to the tire marks in the snow, then taking into account the distance from the tires to the actual taillight and then how high this is from the ground then I would have liked to have seen more photos of the boot door area to be sure of no damage as he claims.
Lally yet again zoomed over important testimony regarding Officer O’Keefes phone and how this came to be in the possession of the police. Last we heard Kerry Roberts handed it over to an EMT now Proctor collects it from Goode. As we all know the Ring footage could be accessed from this phone and Lally was pushing this point until Kerry’s testimony and then Lally seemed to drop the point all together. More questionable antics that make me wonder, is Lally really searching for the truth or just a truth that fits??
We also have no idea when that picture was taken or if it was doctored in any way, because we really can't put it past them.
"I don't have an explanation" for his messages. You know, it wasn't just one statement in one text that was unprofessional, but a pattern of speech in many emails to different people. I wasn't just being unprofessional in a moment, but he is simply, and completely, unprofessional in general. THAT is the explanation.
It’s worse!! This can potentially have effects on numerous of cases.. this is a shit-storm with no end in sight!
Absolutely true! At best this brings so many cases into question. Worse this corruption could have major ramifications. Money, Time, lives all wasted or egregiously mishandled
Exactly.
It won't wait and see. The feds will say this was an isolated incident
I can't wait until the defense attorney gets hold of this guy.
I can't believe none of these cops have been fired yet. Explains the FBI presence.
Between this judge sighing into the microphone at the defense attorneys and Proctor’s texts, this case is a sham.
Trooper Proctor is a disgrace. He should be fired. Wow. Talking to his sister and his wife and other friends about the case he’s investigating? Is he trying to establish an alibi? Has he been ruled out as a suspect? I hope he loses his job. He deserves to.
What an awful person. Those texts and the way he talked about a MEDICAL condition is beyond disgusting.
Thank you for the recap! Absolutely need it to stay current with the case. Appreciate the clarity.
How on earth does the judge not declare a mistrial and ask to see the D/A in her chambers immediately??? The wrong doing by all of the investigators hits you in the face daily. These people should all be investigated at the highest level!!!!
You can tell she's mad while doing this recap 😂.
If you think I seem mad at the beginning, be sure to watch the last like 10 minutes for sure 😅
LB going Momma bear? a sight to behold😊😊
Even the judge was mad. And we all know bev is in the states pocket- but even she couldn't hide her disgust.
You nailed it especially at the very end!! As a Bostonian, Proctor really is an embarrassment to the Mass state police. Mass state police were investigated as well for an overtime scandal, it really makes you question their trust. It’s a shame these cops make the good cops job harder.
As a NYer, I don't have much respect for our State Troopers. To many negative experiences, the power really seems to go to their heads and throw their weight around trampling on rights. I wonder how it is in other states or if we see similar issues perhaps with supervisors etc.
I believe the women in the group hated KR and were behind framing the narrative to throw her under the bus 😊
The sad thing is that his children are going to see how their father is garbage. Also, JOK is never going to see justice because of Proctor being a POS.
I just wanted to congratulate you on a brilliant synopsis of a very difficult day.🎉
I love your reviews. ❤. I think they're great and with good humour.In very difficult circumstances.❤
Thank you.
Love your recaps! Love your legal insight in this case
Let’s all remember John Okeefs life was taken. Regardless of Proctors part, we still owe to find the truth as much as possible. What that is is still up in the air.
I'm half way through day 23, and I can't believe it was actually worse than day 22. There is absolutely no chance Karen is found guilty at this point.
This is the most insane case I have ever seen. Such a clear case of corruption. I hope proctors eventual trial is televised too!
What a disgrace the MSP and the Norfolk County District Attorney’s office, is their an ounce of integrity anywhere in government anymore what an embarrassment this whole shit show the cops the D A and most of all the judge
There is two things I would like to know. How often the C word appears in his text messages. Was it a word commonly used by him, or just reserved for mrs Read. And second: the amount of texts with sister was huge, much more than with wife. Is it comparable to other timeframes, or was it only that often during the case?
This judge makes me remember how much I loved living in Boston and how I found some Bostonians too harsh and direct … no beating around the bushes… speak louder, read the word… I would not wanna ever face her 😅
He doesn’t regret what he said. He regrets getting caught.
Bingo!!!
We had a sheriff here (in western Oregon) who was abusing his power to hurt women, selling guns and drugs from lock up etc... they just moved him to a more rural area. I love our local cops and most of our sheriff's. But it's hard to back the blue when there are so many awful ones and they cover for each other. Proctor is a creep and they should fire the entire group of them. Anyone who knew and said nothing too
Well they can't be fired because of the union agreement
@fafafohigh69 yeah, that whole union thing needs to go I think. I see why it started but it's an absolute monster now with too much power. If it keeps cops who are committing crimes (the thing they are supposed to be literally fighting, their only job) from facing consequences? It needs to go
Sallyport video: you can see the officers leaning down and taking photos at the rear of the car. Where are those photos?
His wife must be really proud of him.
Oh, such a web 'we' weave!! Such a warm and fuzzy work culture 😮
I'm only 1:30 into this video and I'm shook. That intro was fire.
When I was watching, I kept saying, "Dude, just plea the fifth already."
When the prosecution rests, can the defense safely rest and hand it over to the jury to get it over with, because there's no need to drag out the trial any further?
Or do they want to stake the vampire and scatter the ashes?
Jesus, this guy should not be in any position of power
If they had started with his testimony, this case would have been over already xD
Well, that one text clarified the audio that we couldn’t hear clearly about “my taillight’s cracked and John’s just pulverized.”
I think law enforcement in this case should all be held accountable for their disgusting and blatant abuse of power. This case STINKS to HIGH HEAVEN and I hope the Good Lord smells it and intervenes. I’ll be praying for it 🙏
I feel like the judge definitely hates Proctor 😂
Only because he screwed up the case
Appreciate the recaps.
Thank you for recaps❤ again, no idea why this went to trial. That guy is disgusting.
Love your recaps! Thank you
It is horrible that Karen and her family has to hear these disgusting texts. I would not be able to contain my emotions if someone spoke of my daughter in this way. John would not have been fine with behavior.
What about the O'Keefe family? Can you imagine hearing this BS & realizing how bad the investigator's screwed up this case. If the police convinced them that Karen intentionally did this, I wonder if they have changed their mind?
The entire investigation was full of mistakes, many conflicts of interest, & there was blatant confirmation bias.
With every new prosecution witness, the defense's case get stronger. The poor family isn't going to get the answers they deserve.
Thank you!
In the words of Ted from Scrubs “a good lawyer couldn’t win this!”
Unbelievable and frightening.
I’ve lived in dighton my whole life, the cops in dighton are honest peeps, I believe him when he says that it was cracked with a small chunk missing not a big chunk that is clearly missing now.. dighton wont lie for them!
I believe the Dighton officer. He even called his supervisor to inform. Smart move!
Compelling? Really, 3 people interviewed, and that was compelling? WOW
Really appreciate these daily recaps!
I like your style . I got much info in a straightforward manner 👍
All these guys need to go back to junior high. Actually I don't even know that junior high school boys talk like that. How embarrassed his family should be.
I believe that his inner circle has the same mindset, wouldn't be surprised if he learned that in his family.
The defense needs Mona Lisa Vito to come and reveal another model of SUV with the same taillight. However, I don't really think this would alter the fact that reasonable doubt has been established many times in the case except in the drunk driving case.
Proctor is horrible. He needs to be fired. He shouldn't even be behind the desk. AND I think they should use this case for training purposes for the police dept. Don't be like this guy!!
Still waiting to see that compelling evidence that he found within, what was it? 16 hours?
The only person that attempted to save John was Karen, she gave mouth to mouth which was effective since the Hospital gave a 10% chance of recovery. If John pulled through his testimony would be crucial as to what happened on that day. Unprofessional comments, BS he should have never sent his buds any sort of message concerning a police investigation EVER, that alone she get him fired forthwith, and if his union had any morals would not fight for him to keep his job he should be lucky to hang on to his pension.
Day 23 told Day 22 to hold its beer…
I have absolutely no doubt seeing him plant that taillight all of his cases should and must be re-examined I truly hope his parents are seeing what kind of son they really have
"Did Proctor's Texts END the Prosecution's Case?" No. They buried it.
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He hates her no matter what.....blind to anything else........i hope such a biased investigator gets the sack....
I just don't see any universe he keeps his job here. He not only put this case in jeapordy but every case he's worked that he talked about to buddies and family. You just don't walk away from something like this.
@@Katosepewell with his superiors liking his messages and knowing for years about all of this and even knowing the FBI is investigating he still seems to have his job now so i don't think they'll do anything to him sadly! Plus, i think that whole department is pretty shady its looking like so they think he's done nothing wrong! They don't see the problem with any of the things any of their officers had done in this case! Really, makes me wonder and worry what they've done in the past with their other cases! Exp if it involved an"outsider" or someone they simply didn't care for! Idk if she is guilty or not yet but i do feel so badly for her and even more so for John O Keefe and his family
This is def the craziest case I've ever seen! Sorry this is so long lol had to get it out 😂
Have A great day whoever takes the time to read my rant lol
@@heatherwelch7190 You could be right. Never can fully trust the system. That said, if I were a betting man, I'd guess he's on administrative leave (still employed) because firing him would cause a lot more problems for the trial and federal investigation. Doubt he'll be employed after that point but hey, like you said, the whole department is shady so what do I know? Fingers crossed though!
@@Katosepe that could def be true as well! 😊
A lot of those messages where in a group text with his superiors. Not once did they reprimand him for the way he was handling the case, speaking about Karen, his clear confirmation bias, or possibly compromising the investigation.
If the FBI wasn't investigating this, we wouldn't even know about all these issues. It's scary to think about how many other cases he might of mismanaged. Are there innocent people in jail because of him?
This judge should have completely recyses herself as she's close to the Alberts & McCabes and their kids even call her auntie. We can inly hope that the jury also sees how bias this judge is. Its so bad that i believe some charges should be brought against the jusge after this sham trual is over. Hiw tf is it ok for the prosecution to bring withess after witness with their testimonies going clise to 30 days now but the defense has to sum up his case with whatever time is left in June? Hiw is that even a thing thats allowed? What gives this judge the right ti tell the jury they'll be done by a certain time when the prisecusion isn't even finished calling THEIR witnesses! This is a kangaroo court from beginning to end & i oray the jurors that are their arent part of this whole corrupt system as well!
The only reason the defence doesn’t get more time is because Alan Jackson told the judge that they only needed 3-4 days.
Can you help me understand how they can just lie on the stand like that without any repercussions?
Very hard to prove perjury, usually doesn't happen. Easy excuse is I don't recall/ remember. BUT the jury sees what we see and can judge for themselves what amount of credibility to give to any, all, or non of a person's testimony... And judge their possible bias. I really hope Proctor will lose his job and others looked into even more. But salt, in sure yes not the only one like this, just the stupid one that got caught.
There may be 10 women selected for jury duty in this trial, but surely we won’t know the final makeup of the jury until both sides rest and the alternates are selected, right? Some of those women will likely end up as alternates.
Just cuz there are men didn't mean they won't have issues with how Proctor talks about a female. I know quite a few guys who would be so disgusted, and they joke around with each other plenty!
Did anyone notice that Proctor said karen Reads tail light was 'CRACKED', then later on in his evidence he said her Tail Light was BROKEN', The first time it was CRACKED, The second time it was BROKEN, I think thats worth of defence Clarifying, or bringing to the Jury's notice at the very least.
Absolutely insane that he still has a job
So when trooper Proctor is talking about the morning and afternoon of January 29, he reports that there was one shoe at the hospital and one shoe at the scene. Then later, a third shoe shows up?
How did the defense get access to Trooper Proctor's text messages?
What does it say about Lally that he 1) brought this case to trial, even if he was pressured to do so, pretty sure I'd quit my job before argue this and ruin my career 2) he faced the texts head on but didn't do it with an ounce of humanity, it felt like a canned PR statement when he really deserves Karen the biggest of apologies, at the VERY least. This is an insane embarrassment to many people, in many ways. Not only did Proctor say these things, but Lally made him read it into record. And I think he SHOULD face the absolute garbage he said, but I hate that he had to for Karen's sake.
I don't know if defense counsel was prevented from asking him to elaborate on words used as to their meaning, e.g. " Detective, what did you mean when texting whackjob, c¥nt, b*tch... Are these everyday words for you?" If someone called his wife or sister that vulgarity, and tried to charactetize that as regrettable, juvenile, joking.. would he then let it go as excusable? Additionally, his claim that the 'homeowner' is exempt from investigation because he's LEO, screams of cover-up, whether it was or not. Throw in failure to secure crime scene, I cant see a murder conviction coming from this. Proctor has lost all credibility. It's almost irrelevant whether Read hit him or not; the Defense only needs to get the jury to see reasonable doubt to find her not guilty (which doesn't mean "innocent ", but not proven by the evidence presented. Investigation is tainted, therefore evidence obtained is suspect.
The judge is awful, I was just watching the trial live and Auntie Bev is so obviously biased that I had to stop watching
This is such a kangaroo court that everyone but the defense should be embarrassed 😳
How do you singlehandedly tank a case? Be like Proctor here. He's sinking it all and taking the entire police department and investigative integrity with him.
When proctor was talking about the tail light he said THE broken piece and then broken pieces....did anyone else catch that?