Um, no. He no one believes he "butt dialed." As Runkle said, what are only your butts leaking evidence? Or something close to that. That comment was just so amusing. Thanks for bringing us all up to date. Glad to have you back.
222am two butts call each other,then a third butt googled hos long to die in cold... at one point got a zinger on Higgins and the flash of rage on his face is telling... How does the cameraman know to zoom in on KR before the question is asked??? Or am I crazy?????
💯 true and I can’t believe they continue to prosecute. I’m not from there, but aren’t they wasting valuable resources on behalf of the people who also believe that KR is innocent?
@@KO_IslandGirl even if she is guilty, the inept investigation, the cartoonish evidence collection, the close connection to the Albert's, trying to hide relationships connecting many of the "witnesses"... is so shady that it creates way too much doubt. "Beyond reasonable doubt" ‽ The whole case is nothing but doubt created by PD and the surrounding circus.
Not sure about you guys but after a night of drinking with buddies I always head into the office for abit of administration work in the morning. It’s when I feel the most fresh
I think he had some Jamieson in his desk drank it & slept at the CPD😮 Long day to NY & back, drinks, snow, back to CPD then W. Roxbury, more drinks, & back in Canton by 7AM ish! Don't buy it!
Same! I also drive around town with trash bags in my car and then conveniently discard them at the military base, I heard they’re good at recycling personal belongings and evidence? 🤔
The fact that he and Brian Albert both inexplicably butt dialled each other on the day of the murder, and they both conveniently destroyed their phones on the SAME day, one day before the court order came through, is absolutely batshit insane. No one could possiblt conclude this isn't foulplay.
I’m a big fan of the OJ Simpson-esque answer Higgins gave. “Did you remove the SIM card from your phone” “Well I don’t know, but if I did, here’s what I would have done with it” Like damn dude, tell me you’re full of it without telling me you’re full of it.
I think that they cast doubt on the jury very well, and that’s enough to free her. I also find it weird that all parties involved say they can”t remember anything. But they remember everything karen did.
@@netinbra They are also all very adamant that John never went into the house, which I find strange that any one person, given the fact that people were in different parts of the house and came and went at different times, can be so sure of that, which would require the supernatural ability of omnipresence in order to make that claim.
@@ss5286 I agree with you about the lack of faith in people. There is literally no evidence against KR. How anyone can think there is not a mountain of reasonable doubt, I will never understand.
Well, I think they thought she would "cave" to lesser charges and then when KR fought back, the "odd behaviour" started, and they had to start to expend a lot of energy. This explains all the delays in interviews etc. However, I agree that it is truly astounding. It is also a bit depressing that they really had no idea who KR was as a person. She had been in their "friend group" for years.
Amazing how many people remember clear as a bell, without any problem with their recall, the glass KR had in her hand, and what was in the glass, when she walked into the Waterfall w/ her boyfriend... but so many details about what has happened regarding the death of a friend
I had a hard time believing this was a conspiracy/coverup... until I saw one witness after the next lying and getting selective amnesia on the stand. Unbelievable.
The amount of sustained objections during Brian Higgin's cross is absolutely staggering. There is nothing there that should have warranted an objection being sustained. The judge is heavily favoring the persecution and they all know it.
If she is found guilty after this circus, she will def have grounds for an appeal. I doubt she will be found guilty based on how inept the investigation was performed and "evidence" was collected.
Based off available evidence there is absolutely no chance I would find Read guilty if I was in the jury. And I do feel that the judge's tone towards the defense has been a bit snarky. But I assume your comment is mostly in relation to the line of questioning at around the 29:15 timestamp. Sustaining each one of those objections was valid: - Regarding the 0227 Google search, that objection was for improper foundation (he would not be able to recall McCabe Google searching since he was not with McCabe at the time). - calling Higgins a "liar" is argumentative. He may have gotten away with it using different language, but Jackson intentionally asks objectionable questions and doesn't care about the answer. He just wants the jury to hear the objectionable question and think about it. - would you tell us if you lied is again argumentative. The point was made and at this point it is badgering - jumping forward to 31:50, the first question about how to make phone calls on an iPhone was a compound question. Which is why the judge said Jackson could break it down. - jumping to 36:27 the objection was for the tone of the question. It was argumentative. - jumping forward to the entire conclusion at 38:45, it was a line up of argumentative questions, asked and answered questions, and possibly (depending on what exactly happened with the order to maintain the phone), misstating or improper characterization of evidence. - Jumping back to 19:45 it is once again argumentative, as well as asked and answered. Both valid objections. I have disagreed with several of the questions for which the judge sustained objections. I disagree with her sustaining the objection at 36:32. I'm not really sure why she did so, but Jackson rephrased the question and then she allowed the question overruling the prosecutions objection. The way this was done makes me think the judge maybe viewed the original objectionable question as being compound, but she does sustain a lot of questions with the word "destroy" in it so maybe she sees the phrase as argumentative. Again, I don't agree but she's a judge and I am not. I also don't see why the question at 37:08 was answered. Maybe the judge saw it as calling for speculation, but with his experience I think he should have been allowed to answer. But besides these two outliers, each sustained objection in this video during defense questioning of Higgins are valid objections in my book.
@@phantomsplit3491 Those are very good points. I was mostly talking about the objections relating to destroying the phone, which in my opinion were very straight forward questions with clear answers that they were simply trying really hard to dodge responding to. Like in every roundabout way he could he said that he did in fact destroy the phone, but refused to say yes or no directly to the questions about it.
I’d have to go back and double check the testimonies, but I wonder how many of the non-expert witness pool has lost, sold, broken, etc. their cell phones. It seems to be a pretty high percentage.
Watching this back, I realized that this is at least the second witness who “just so happened” to get a new phone exactly one day before receiving an order to preserve their existing phone. Sounds like someone was warning them.
@@mackenziedubs4175 someone said one of the daughter works in a da office. Lol If true no wonder this family is so powerful. They have family every power an friends Albert's with aunty bev
She was frustrated with John. Whether she really had feelings for Higgins is not relevant, they are both single people and this is life. The butt dials are well, ridiculous lies that just show how this should not be a trial. I am glad it is as it calls out just how bad the corruption is in the town. That is my opinion.
The butt dial thing seems like some boomer shit, like they are so incompetent with technology that they still think it’s super easy to accidentally do that
Except I don't believe that *anyone* is coincidentally incompetent enough to boomer butt dial back. That kind of cutesy accident is beyond their ineptitude, their attempt at ability, or their luck.
That and how it is so hard to remember what steps you need to take to call someone. Even doing it on autopilot it doesn't take much thought to work it out.
Thank you for putting together these recaps for those of us that cannot follow the trail live. For my part the recaps actually allow me to pop in to some of the live streams when I have time and keep caught up when I do not have time to watch live.
Am I just misunderstanding something here?? I thought he said he left the keys to the vehicles on his desk so they could be moved while he was gone, if they needed to be, and he wasn't even expected to be back until the next day. Right?? He wasn't even supposed to be back, and the keys were on his desk so the cars could be moved, he didn't need to go move them. He wasn't even expected back yet
And he had been drinking, and as he said, he doesn't drive gov't vehicles under the influence, even to the point that he *anticipates* drinking and switches to his civilian vehicle.
@SleepySuperhero right! According to him, over the course of about 4 or 5 hours he has had at least 8 whiskey drinks according to his testimony. He was supposed to be in New York until the next day so he wasn't working the next day. He gets too drunk to go home so he drives to the PD to rearrange cop cars? Then he goes home anyhow and drinks some more before going back to the office? All day? With nothing to show for what he did, what was so important to go to work on his day off? No reports filed or work computer activity to show?
I agree with why are these people, these LAW ENFORCEMENT people, acting so weird! They should know how stupid butt dials and getting rid of your phone the day before the order to keep it would look at trial. They look like fools!
Together with the texts it shows that Karen was being the better parent in the relationship. Which is crazy considering the kids weren't her family. John wasn't the angel some say he is. I think Karen flirted with Higgins to get back at John and to get some confidence back. But you only do that if you want to stay in the relationship. If she wanted out she could have packed her bags the day they came back from Aruba. There's no motive for murder here, yet. Prosecution claims to have more, including the kids' testimonies and the hospital ER personnel. We'll find out if that sticks.
Agree, all of the prosecution witnesses seem to remember certain things vividly and other things they totally forget. And why would you say I think tall man with dark hair might have showed up? It’s like he’s trying to lead them down a rabbit hole or them to think that this tall, dark haired man was the one that committed the crime.
We've gone through 3+ weeks and 43 witnesses and I'm still not seeing Karen as homicidal or even a plausible explanation of any intentional act on her part to harm John. However, on the other side I'm seeing a lot of evasive answers, deleted calls, searches, and sketchy texts. At this point I'm wondering how this came to trial.
He wouldn't be able to ID Colin, but he went to the twins party, a family function, andnpossibly other gatherings, parties, etc. And during this trial, Camden locals have photos of all the witnesses (co-conspirators?) vehicles at the Alberts house together? Including the McCabe's when Jen was technically still on the stand?
The more he picks things apart when it really just needs yes or no answers makes him sound more and more untruthful. It is weird that these people can't seem to just answer simple questions.
Makes no sense that Higgins would have to move those cars. Wouldn’t that be the responsibility of Canton police Department? He’s not a camp police officer
I think Karen just needed some attention while her and John were fighting. And when things got better or smoothed out… She no longer needed his attention. Ghosted
I've pocket dialed people a coupe of times in a row before, but not at 2am when the phone is on the nightstand, and not at the exact same time Jen McCabe just happens to be googling 'hos long to die in the cold' as John O Keefe lay on the Alberts' front lawn...
There are still so many obvious, simple questions that have yet to be answered with this case, and of course, you will hear them towards the end of the trial
I put my stopwatch on just to see how long "22 seconds" was.. i said out loud "hey, oops didnt mean to call you, ok? Ok. Bye. Bye" nowhere near 22 seconds..22 seconds doesnt sound like much, but you could have a short conversation...
Why does the prosecutor keep falling into the same trap of not bringing up the stuff that looks bad for these witnesses, while he’s still doing direct examination? Every. Single. Time. They fail to bring up all this shady, inconsistent, or downright suspicious stuff that the witnesses are hiding, and the defense gets to be the ones to introduce it to the jury and not only does it have more of an impact but it also makes it looks like the prosecutor is hiding it too!! I just don’t get why they keeeeppp doinnngggg that…
Higgins was shown that a call was made on his phone to Brian Albert, and simply says “I did not make that call”….. man stop it. Going back to Canton PD is also funky. To move cars? He said he was exhausted and just wanted to go home earlier because it was a long day…. But nooo theres time for that. So many holes that didn’t make sense. I have a feeling that this is put doubt in the jury already.
From the convo. I read "most couples don't even like each other" as "couples don't like spending time with other couples" from the context - not that the two individuals in a couple don't like each other.
The fact that it’s screenshots of texts, and AJ mentioned that they were “highly curated,” I’m left wondering if they’ve been selectively deleted to look worse than they are
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I'm confused. BH used some sort of federal machinery to pull up the messages with KR and JoK off his phone, but in the end he provided screenshots. Soo is that the format the sophisticated federal kiosk produces? 🤔
Also, whether or not the judge is being favorable to the prosecution, she is definitely sustaining quite a bit. Whether that be favoritism or not, who knows. But her sustaining is def noticeable.
I can agree to Karen being out of line for txt him knowing he was known to John! But that doesn’t mean she did it! I understand his family maybe being mad at her for getting involved with Higgins , and possibly causing tension between them and provoking a confrontation but these cops are soooo covering up each other!
Believe me, this crew of murderers is, long-term, going to be so sorry they got involved in the murder of John O'Keefe. A major part of this horrible story is when the O'Keefe family comprehends that their beloved 7:28 son, brother, uncle, cousin, nephew, et c was murdered , not by Karen, but by "other cops... by some of their own."... Another aspect of this tragedy.
No they won’t. Nothing will happen to them. Ever. Even IF they were investigated, it would be their own departments investigating and they would find no evidence. Even if they did. Nothing will ever happen to any of them. Karen might get pulled over a whole lot more though. Or there might be anonymous 911 calls about disturbances at her house.
I wish you wojld have watched the whole thing with us! I have rewatched a ton of days since i found you just bcuz i enioy your POVs! Oh well, just DON'T miss anymore! 😂
I have a Samsung so I'm not sure how an iphone works but I can go into my settings under 'Auto Lock' and hit the amout of time that i want my phone to lock after I use it, up to 30 mins. There's also another setting which allows me to never have my phone locked. Does the iphone not have these settings?
The prosecution is really grasping at straws with this nonsense. There wasn't even an affair & we're supposed to believe this is proof that she killed him???? Absolutely insane!
35:16 Someone needs to create timelines of the texts/phone calls. Read burned Higgins in text - Higgins needs to get over himself. I'm starting to get a picture of a bunch of people who had issues with John and Karen - a group fueled by alcohol/egos, a perfect storm, and a desperate cover-up. Lesson - too many egos involved in a coordinated game.
Definitely interesting that the Albert's exchange a call to Mr atf, and only 5 minutes later, Mrs McCabe is googling how long it takes to die in The cold, who funnily enough is the one person who said Karen said 'I hit him' Must be a coincidence, huh
Yeah it’s called a butt dial. But in this instance it’s completely implausible. They called each other and BH is lying on the stand. His reaction if “I ALWAYS tell the truth” when asked if he lied in testimony was enough for me to doubt every word he says
So Brian was butthurt that night, said something to John at the house and things got heated, Colin Albert saw an opportunity to do some punching, the dog joined in…they dumped him outside then yeeted his shoe out of the front door. “How long to die in the cold”
If these prosecution witnesses were smaht, instead of using the “butt dial” excuse, they could say that they got a notification that they got a call, they unlocked their phone to see who it was, they clicked on the notification and it automatically called them back. I accidentally do that all the time. In today’s technology, butt dials no longer exist.
What do you think about the spicy texts between Brian Higgins and Karen Read? Do you believe he butt-dialed Brian Albert at 2:22 am?
I think Karen gave Higgins the Irish goodbye
Um, no. He no one believes he "butt dialed." As Runkle said, what are only your butts leaking evidence? Or something close to that. That comment was just so amusing. Thanks for bringing us all up to date. Glad to have you back.
The only spicy part of those texts is the indigestion it gives me because of how stressed out I get listening to them.
As much as I believe Jen McCabe butt searched "how long to die in snow" at 2:27am.
222am two butts call each other,then a third butt googled hos long to die in cold... at one point got a zinger on Higgins and the flash of rage on his face is telling...
How does the cameraman know to zoom in on KR before the question is asked??? Or am I crazy?????
It's weird that they all remember what Karen did but just can't recall their own actions, 🤔?
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💯 true and I can’t believe they continue to prosecute. I’m not from there, but aren’t they wasting valuable resources on behalf of the people who also believe that KR is innocent?
@@KO_IslandGirl even if she is guilty, the inept investigation, the cartoonish evidence collection, the close connection to the Albert's, trying to hide relationships connecting many of the "witnesses"... is so shady that it creates way too much doubt. "Beyond reasonable doubt" ‽ The whole case is nothing but doubt created by PD and the surrounding circus.
Funny how everyone is fixated on Karen's clear liquid, but they can't account for themselves 🤦🏼♀️
Wow Higgins IPHONE doesnt have a lock screen, it just sits open on contacts awaiting his ass
And it also butt dials people even when the phone is on the night stand.
Yet when someone gets his number he cuts the SIM card in half and drives to a military base to dispose of it because SECURITY
This dude is fuming when defense cuts him off. It’s hilarious! 😆
We might as well call this the *”Butt Dial Trial”*
That's what EDB deemed it 🙂 Definitely fitting
Those butts weren't just dialing each other, they were having conversations. "I'm having a bad day, he ate habanero peppers last night."
I have to commend Karen's lawyer for his god tier level of patience when he is cross-examining because these witnesses are infuriating
Not sure about you guys but after a night of drinking with buddies I always head into the office for abit of administration work in the morning.
It’s when I feel the most fresh
I ALWAYS do it. ESPECIALLY on Saturday mornings, while in a blizzard. Call me Mr. Butt Dial king of dedication.
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I think he had some Jamieson in his desk drank it & slept at the CPD😮 Long day to NY & back, drinks, snow, back to CPD then W. Roxbury, more drinks, & back in Canton by 7AM ish! Don't buy it!
Same! I also drive around town with trash bags in my car and then conveniently discard them at the military base, I heard they’re good at recycling personal belongings and evidence? 🤔
@@rubiirae that's great! 😂🎯
The fact that he and Brian Albert both inexplicably butt dialled each other on the day of the murder, and they both conveniently destroyed their phones on the SAME day, one day before the court order came through, is absolutely batshit insane. No one could possiblt conclude this isn't foulplay.
Removing a SIM card and breaking my phone would never cross my mind when I’m getting a new phone lmao
Never!! Trade it in, sell it on Facebook, donate it, recycle it, sell it in that little box at the mall...
He didn't throw in the dumpster, he dropped it the dumpster.... 😂😂😂😂
Therefore, he’s being truthful. 😂
I’m a big fan of the OJ Simpson-esque answer Higgins gave.
“Did you remove the SIM card from your phone”
“Well I don’t know, but if I did, here’s what I would have done with it”
Like damn dude, tell me you’re full of it without telling me you’re full of it.
I don’t understand what he was thinking. Did he think his answer was clever? To me, it makes him less credible.
Karen is also lucky to have such great lawyers, I can't see any jury convicting her.
I think that she would have been found guilty already if she had a bad defense team
I think that they cast doubt on the jury very well, and that’s enough to free her.
I also find it weird that all parties involved say they can”t remember anything. But they remember everything karen did.
@@netinbra They are also all very adamant that John never went into the house, which I find strange that any one person, given the fact that people were in different parts of the house and came and went at different times, can be so sure of that, which would require the supernatural ability of omnipresence in order to make that claim.
I'm not so sure. I'm still reading lots of "Karen's guilty" comments. It doesn't give me much faith in people 🤷🏻♀️
@@ss5286 I agree with you about the lack of faith in people. There is literally no evidence against KR. How anyone can think there is not a mountain of reasonable doubt, I will never understand.
The amount of energy that went into incriminating Karen is just astounding.
Well, I think they thought she would "cave" to lesser charges and then when KR fought back, the "odd behaviour" started, and they had to start to expend a lot of energy. This explains all the delays in interviews etc. However, I agree that it is truly astounding. It is also a bit depressing that they really had no idea who KR was as a person. She had been in their "friend group" for years.
Amazing how many people remember clear as a bell, without any problem with their recall, the glass KR had in her hand, and what was in the glass, when she walked into the Waterfall w/ her boyfriend... but so many details about what has happened regarding the death of a friend
I had a hard time believing this was a conspiracy/coverup... until I saw one witness after the next lying and getting selective amnesia on the stand. Unbelievable.
Brian Higgins put his phone in his back pocket and his ass triggered facial recognition
I was looking for this type of comment! lol
The amount of sustained objections during Brian Higgin's cross is absolutely staggering. There is nothing there that should have warranted an objection being sustained. The judge is heavily favoring the persecution and they all know it.
If she is found guilty after this circus, she will def have grounds for an appeal. I doubt she will be found guilty based on how inept the investigation was performed and "evidence" was collected.
Based off available evidence there is absolutely no chance I would find Read guilty if I was in the jury. And I do feel that the judge's tone towards the defense has been a bit snarky. But I assume your comment is mostly in relation to the line of questioning at around the 29:15 timestamp. Sustaining each one of those objections was valid:
- Regarding the 0227 Google search, that objection was for improper foundation (he would not be able to recall McCabe Google searching since he was not with McCabe at the time).
- calling Higgins a "liar" is argumentative. He may have gotten away with it using different language, but Jackson intentionally asks objectionable questions and doesn't care about the answer. He just wants the jury to hear the objectionable question and think about it.
- would you tell us if you lied is again argumentative. The point was made and at this point it is badgering
- jumping forward to 31:50, the first question about how to make phone calls on an iPhone was a compound question. Which is why the judge said Jackson could break it down.
- jumping to 36:27 the objection was for the tone of the question. It was argumentative.
- jumping forward to the entire conclusion at 38:45, it was a line up of argumentative questions, asked and answered questions, and possibly (depending on what exactly happened with the order to maintain the phone), misstating or improper characterization of evidence.
- Jumping back to 19:45 it is once again argumentative, as well as asked and answered. Both valid objections.
I have disagreed with several of the questions for which the judge sustained objections. I disagree with her sustaining the objection at 36:32. I'm not really sure why she did so, but Jackson rephrased the question and then she allowed the question overruling the prosecutions objection. The way this was done makes me think the judge maybe viewed the original objectionable question as being compound, but she does sustain a lot of questions with the word "destroy" in it so maybe she sees the phrase as argumentative. Again, I don't agree but she's a judge and I am not. I also don't see why the question at 37:08 was answered. Maybe the judge saw it as calling for speculation, but with his experience I think he should have been allowed to answer.
But besides these two outliers, each sustained objection in this video during defense questioning of Higgins are valid objections in my book.
@@phantomsplit3491 Those are very good points. I was mostly talking about the objections relating to destroying the phone, which in my opinion were very straight forward questions with clear answers that they were simply trying really hard to dodge responding to. Like in every roundabout way he could he said that he did in fact destroy the phone, but refused to say yes or no directly to the questions about it.
There is no way , no Fukin way she is getting convicted ! Not a chance
I think she's been neutral, objections were reasonable
The “butt dials” and both of them destroying their phones looks extremely sus to me!
I’d have to go back and double check the testimonies, but I wonder how many of the non-expert witness pool has lost, sold, broken, etc. their cell phones. It seems to be a pretty high percentage.
It's at least 4 plus JM deleted a bunch of text msgs before her phone was extracted!
Watching this back, I realized that this is at least the second witness who “just so happened” to get a new phone exactly one day before receiving an order to preserve their existing phone. Sounds like someone was warning them.
@@mackenziedubs4175 It was reported to be the witness advocate who would have no legal authority to do that. State employee 🤷♀️
@@mackenziedubs4175 someone said one of the daughter works in a da office. Lol
If true no wonder this family is so powerful. They have family every power an friends Albert's with aunty bev
She was frustrated with John. Whether she really had feelings for Higgins is not relevant, they are both single people and this is life. The butt dials are well, ridiculous lies that just show how this should not be a trial. I am glad it is as it calls out just how bad the corruption is in the town. That is my opinion.
Somebody wrote: Higgins puts the A in ATF😂
The butt dial thing seems like some boomer shit, like they are so incompetent with technology that they still think it’s super easy to accidentally do that
This!
Yes!!
Except I don't believe that *anyone* is coincidentally incompetent enough to boomer butt dial back. That kind of cutesy accident is beyond their ineptitude, their attempt at ability, or their luck.
That and how it is so hard to remember what steps you need to take to call someone. Even doing it on autopilot it doesn't take much thought to work it out.
Right? We don't use button phones anymore, how are the butts using touch screen phones?
Where you on planet earth? I can't recall. But I do remeber the buble pattern on Karen's Cup
Kinda surprised Canton p.d. can get through their day without a drink
The texts that have come to light- shows that they can’t! They drink during the day/on duty all the time!
Thank you for putting together these recaps for those of us that cannot follow the trail live. For my part the recaps actually allow me to pop in to some of the live streams when I have time and keep caught up when I do not have time to watch live.
Am I just misunderstanding something here?? I thought he said he left the keys to the vehicles on his desk so they could be moved while he was gone, if they needed to be, and he wasn't even expected to be back until the next day. Right?? He wasn't even supposed to be back, and the keys were on his desk so the cars could be moved, he didn't need to go move them. He wasn't even expected back yet
Yes!!!! I keep thinking about this
And he had been drinking, and as he said, he doesn't drive gov't vehicles under the influence, even to the point that he *anticipates* drinking and switches to his civilian vehicle.
@SleepySuperhero right! According to him, over the course of about 4 or 5 hours he has had at least 8 whiskey drinks according to his testimony. He was supposed to be in New York until the next day so he wasn't working the next day. He gets too drunk to go home so he drives to the PD to rearrange cop cars? Then he goes home anyhow and drinks some more before going back to the office? All day? With nothing to show for what he did, what was so important to go to work on his day off? No reports filed or work computer activity to show?
He wasn't on duty Friday night or Saturday!
Oh my, everyone sure had a good look at that glass in Karen’s hand 😂
Seriously!!!! So absurd
Probably matched a set at the house. They got a good look at it before disposing the rest.
Brian was (and is) in such denial about his own feelings and Karen’s rejection.
I don’t think he’s in denial, he’s lying on the stand.
I agree with why are these people, these LAW ENFORCEMENT people, acting so weird! They should know how stupid butt dials and getting rid of your phone the day before the order to keep it would look at trial. They look like fools!
I just don’t get Aruba as a motive, it’s so stupid.
If that’s the best they could find to make it seems as if their relationship was bad that mean a they really couldn’t find anything lol
If anything, it was an easy pass to leave the relationship.
lol. Why not.
Together with the texts it shows that Karen was being the better parent in the relationship. Which is crazy considering the kids weren't her family. John wasn't the angel some say he is. I think Karen flirted with Higgins to get back at John and to get some confidence back. But you only do that if you want to stay in the relationship. If she wanted out she could have packed her bags the day they came back from Aruba. There's no motive for murder here, yet. Prosecution claims to have more, including the kids' testimonies and the hospital ER personnel. We'll find out if that sticks.
IMO the Aruba sisters were jealous! They embellished their stories imo😮
Their butts have made more calls than me in 2024 🙄
Gosh, I really love Jackson’s style. He nailed the ghosting bit!
He came for that man's *soul*
He came for that man's *soul*
Thank you for your brief overview & commentary on The Karen Read Trial.
It’s crazy how much Higgins remembers sometimes but totally forget other things. It makes him look so suspicious. Not a good look.
Agree, all of the prosecution witnesses seem to remember certain things vividly and other things they totally forget. And why would you say I think tall man with dark hair might have showed up? It’s like he’s trying to lead them down a rabbit hole or them to think that this tall, dark haired man was the one that committed the crime.
They also seem to have weirdly specific memories when they were admittedly drunk, but then no memories when sober.
Like none of them remember time at all, like at all? They could at least know if the sun was out or not....
His face when told he was chopped liver... priceless... 🤣
This case is held together with duck tapes and bunch of butts that like to call people at the exact same time on the same date....
We've gone through 3+ weeks and 43 witnesses and I'm still not seeing Karen as homicidal or even a plausible explanation of any intentional act on her part to harm John. However, on the other side I'm seeing a lot of evasive answers, deleted calls, searches, and sketchy texts. At this point I'm wondering how this came to trial.
At this point the jury must already have plenty of doubt. Which means they cant convict.
Julie McCabe didn’t know who googled on her phone at 2:30 am. Brian Higgins doesn’t explain how his phone unlocked and dialed the most awkward person.
Spicy texts?? That’s a bit reaching! They read more like a high school crush 😂😂 come on salacious ??
Exactly what I said. I was expecting more steamy text.
There was nothing spicy about those texts. Not surprised she gave up on him.
A sprinkle of hyperbole… 😂
Who the fk throws away an iphone? Even if it's 3 years old. You chuck it in a drawer, or you give it to someone
Thanks so much for these recaps, Alyte! Can’t keep up with full stream, but this case is wild. Much appreciated!
What a “coincidence” how many of these witnesses all got new phones right before the order to preserve them.
Spicy Texts & Butt Dials is a wonderful title 😄
He wouldn't be able to ID Colin, but he went to the twins party, a family function, andnpossibly other gatherings, parties, etc.
And during this trial, Camden locals have photos of all the witnesses (co-conspirators?) vehicles at the Alberts house together? Including the McCabe's when Jen was technically still on the stand?
The more he picks things apart when it really just needs yes or no answers makes him sound more and more untruthful. It is weird that these people can't seem to just answer simple questions.
Massive W for LegalBytes for not kicking Nick while he is down considering your falling out years ago.
Great point.
What's the context here?
The water in Canton must be causing dementia… no one can recall anything.. how convenient!
Who throws out a perfectly good phone, you don't trade it in, sell it, donate it, give it to a little kid who wants a phone??
Makes no sense that Higgins would have to move those cars. Wouldn’t that be the responsibility of Canton police Department? He’s not a camp police officer
They are ALL so shady!!! How could a Juror get passed this?
When someone kills their lover, do they maul them with a large dog?
No but big dogs who are poorly trained might mouth aggressively on a dying man.
Butt dial from the bedside stand?
Maybe he sleeps in weird angles 😂
I think Karen just needed some attention while her and John were fighting. And when things got better or smoothed out… She no longer needed his attention. Ghosted
All because she wouldn't give up that cookie to this creep!
My ex-husband is from Canton, MA and he butt dialed me a couple of times.
I've pocket dialed people a coupe of times in a row before, but not at 2am when the phone is on the nightstand, and not at the exact same time Jen McCabe just happens to be googling 'hos long to die in the cold' as John O Keefe lay on the Alberts' front lawn...
I’ve never seen “innocent” people tell so many lies before.
There are still so many obvious, simple questions that have yet to be answered with this case, and of course, you will hear them towards the end of the trial
I put my stopwatch on just to see how long "22 seconds" was.. i said out loud "hey, oops didnt mean to call you, ok? Ok. Bye. Bye" nowhere near 22 seconds..22 seconds doesnt sound like much, but you could have a short conversation...
jennifer: 2:27 a.m. THOU SHALT NOT FORGET THAT HOUR😂
Why does the prosecutor keep falling into the same trap of not bringing up the stuff that looks bad for these witnesses, while he’s still doing direct examination?
Every. Single. Time. They fail to bring up all this shady, inconsistent, or downright suspicious stuff that the witnesses are hiding, and the defense gets to be the ones to introduce it to the jury and not only does it have more of an impact but it also makes it looks like the prosecutor is hiding it too!!
I just don’t get why they keeeeppp doinnngggg that…
Agree 100% with your analysis...
Higgins was shown that a call was made on his phone to Brian Albert, and simply says “I did not make that call”….. man stop it.
Going back to Canton PD is also funky. To move cars? He said he was exhausted and just wanted to go home earlier because it was a long day…. But nooo theres time for that.
So many holes that didn’t make sense. I have a feeling that this is put doubt in the jury already.
From the convo. I read "most couples don't even like each other" as "couples don't like spending time with other couples" from the context - not that the two individuals in a couple don't like each other.
I Always tell the truth even when I Lie!
I agree. She got back at John to feel better. She didn’t want to kill or need to kill anyone.
I love your recaps.
The fact that it’s screenshots of texts, and AJ mentioned that they were “highly curated,” I’m left wondering if they’ve been selectively deleted to look worse than they are
We will never know because he threw away his phone, which is the biggest red flag ever. I hope the jury is able to appreciate that.
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Crazy how they all remember exactly what karen did and say, but yet can't recall anything they did. This is weird asf
Five mins after the butt dial was when Jenn googled the die in cold😮
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I'm confused. BH used some sort of federal machinery to pull up the messages with KR and JoK off his phone, but in the end he provided screenshots. Soo is that the format the sophisticated federal kiosk produces? 🤔
Also, whether or not the judge is being favorable to the prosecution, she is definitely sustaining quite a bit. Whether that be favoritism or not, who knows. But her sustaining is def noticeable.
I can agree to Karen being out of line for txt him knowing he was known to John! But that doesn’t mean she did it! I understand his family maybe being mad at her for getting involved with Higgins , and possibly causing tension between them and provoking a confrontation but these cops are soooo covering up each other!
39:00 OMG the judge finally get fed up of him too
All of these people got new phones after this incident.
Believe me, this crew of murderers is, long-term, going to be so sorry they got involved in the murder of John O'Keefe. A major part of this horrible story is when the O'Keefe family comprehends that their beloved 7:28 son, brother, uncle, cousin, nephew, et c was murdered , not by Karen, but by "other cops... by some of their own."... Another aspect of this tragedy.
No they won’t. Nothing will happen to them. Ever. Even IF they were investigated, it would be their own departments investigating and they would find no evidence. Even if they did. Nothing will ever happen to any of them. Karen might get pulled over a whole lot more though. Or there might be anonymous 911 calls about disturbances at her house.
cant butt dial a locked phone.
Specially if its on the nightstand…
Ummmmmm, well?
You dirty dog! That is perhaps the single most flirtatious line I've ever read.
They did get him monologuing!
Lol😂
It's ridiculous youtube is just letting that slide on their site. This should be banned and on onlyfans.
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I have a Samsung so I'm not sure how an iphone works but I can go into my settings under 'Auto Lock' and hit the amout of time that i want my phone to lock after I use it, up to 30 mins. There's also another setting which allows me to never have my phone locked. Does the iphone not have these settings?
They do.
The prosecution is really grasping at straws with this nonsense. There wasn't even an affair & we're supposed to believe this is proof that she killed him???? Absolutely insane!
objection sustained THIS JUDGE seems to be part of prosecution team ?
Did you remove the SIM card?
“Your honor, I, if I would, I, could I explain? I didn’t, if I would do, I would cut it, or break it” 🙄🙄🙄
They are lying about that phone call for sure 100%
“I’m not sure of the timeframe. It would’ve been….while I was there.”
They all claim to have butt dialed each other after being butt dialed is absolute nonsense 🤣🤣
@@ss5286yeah, what’s up with peoples’ butts in Canton?
@@greeneyedsoutherngirl6468 lmao!! 🤣🤣
Please pronounce it correctly, it’s officer bukkake.
35:16 Someone needs to create timelines of the texts/phone calls.
Read burned Higgins in text - Higgins needs to get over himself.
I'm starting to get a picture of a bunch of people who had issues with John and Karen - a group fueled by alcohol/egos, a perfect storm, and a desperate cover-up.
Lesson - too many egos involved in a coordinated game.
He is SO Red in his face 😀
Definitely interesting that the Albert's exchange a call to Mr atf, and only 5 minutes later, Mrs McCabe is googling how long it takes to die in The cold, who funnily enough is the one person who said Karen said 'I hit him'
Must be a coincidence, huh
I’m not sure Andrew Jackson knows how iPhones work. Love him but I’m laughing rn 33:34
I would like to.
Know if internal affairs is investigating the massachusetts state troopers the whole department needs to go
Is Butt dial a normal expression for mistakenly making or answering a call? In Swedish it is called pocket dial.
Yeah it’s called a butt dial. But in this instance it’s completely implausible. They called each other and BH is lying on the stand. His reaction if “I ALWAYS tell the truth” when asked if he lied in testimony was enough for me to doubt every word he says
It seem like those text messages made it look like Brian Higgins had the motive to her john
So Brian was butthurt that night, said something to John at the house and things got heated, Colin Albert saw an opportunity to do some punching, the dog joined in…they dumped him outside then yeeted his shoe out of the front door. “How long to die in the cold”
his demeanor was believable until the records pretty much uncovered the lie....and the phone was destroyed
I’ve never seen a policer that will sit with their back to a door.
This guy is a pure liar and that's horrible. How does he sleep at night?
If these prosecution witnesses were smaht, instead of using the “butt dial” excuse, they could say that they got a notification that they got a call, they unlocked their phone to see who it was, they clicked on the notification and it automatically called them back. I accidentally do that all the time. In today’s technology, butt dials no longer exist.
That would be MUCH more plausible. But they think we’re all idiots