In general, I felt that Lally’s crosses tried to elicit the same results as Jackson/yanetti, but he seemed to lack receipts. It’s been a few days, so I’m forgetting exactly where that happened, other than the 18 month subscription (which seemed silly of all things)
So with regards to tech savvy and the search, it doesn’t really apply here. I say this as an experienced IT professional. At the end of the day the knowledge required to make an informed analysis of this particular issue is so INCREDIBLY specialised, that even most very tech savvy people would come up short. What all the specialists said could make sense, but who is right can only be taken on faith for anyone without experience with analysis of data from this exact part of iOS, for this exact version. That’s the problem. So were I in the jury, I too would say: This is almost completely irrelevant to the question of Karen’s guilt, I’m gonna ignore it.
21:29 - Just so you know... You were referring to the 2:27.am search from Jen McCabe's phone but you referenced it as John's phone. Just a little mistake that could cause some confusion. 😉
Also with Lucky, Lally tried to impeach him on the timing of the other passes, like the first one being earlier, and Lucky said no we didn't even get the call till later so that would be wrong. It felt like to me Lucky was like having his feelings hurt that Lally was insinuating that he lied or was wrong.
he showed the jury how a genuine witness behaves when they have nothing to hide! especially on cross, it's been own goal after own goal from Lally since they tested! 😂🤦🤭
@@confused86996 you're all over in the comments here, you got a dog in this fight? You can't be watching the entire trial and come to the conclusion that the prosecution has proved anything. So either you aren't watching it, or you've got ulterior motives. Which is it?
Your Recaps are the best anywhere. They are quick, sharp, succinct and packed with relevant information. Better than anything we can get online FAR better than anything we can get on Court TV (or TV in general). Fantastic, thank you.
Thank you so much!! I really try to get everything in that I think is important to get a well-rounded view of what happened each day, so I really appreciate that!!
I audibly gasped at the end, when you mentioned the deleted google search for an attorney. I’ve rewatched this several times and didn’t pick it up. Absolutely disgusting behaviour.
I also didn’t pick up on it but I saw it as a way to discredit the witness. As in of course you didn’t scrutinize the defendant’s phone as you were hired by the defendant so all of your analysis is biased and therefore shouldn’t be trusted. And to be honest that kind of worked on me but I also didn’t know that what was deleted was just Read deleting hiring a lawyer. So yeah it was very much a dirty tactic by Lally that I think in most part worked.
I didn't like Lally trying to use an article from 2008 about bite ID. You cannot identify an indivual person biting another, but you can say a human did bite. He was misconstruing the research and article there. The same applies to dogs and other animals - you can determine likely size and creature but not the exact breed.
Unfortunately the evidence of matching bite marks to individuals is still admissible evidence in court. It's also been so perpetuated in the media thanks to cases like Ted Bundy that I would say most of the public doesn't realise how inaccurate it is or the context of why its accurate in some cases and some not. Very sneaky of Lally
The monotonic clock is almost certainly the worst clock to rely on for the purpose of forming a timeline. It can only count upward (hence monotonic) and is therefore used primarily for calculating durations of time, rather than telling you the time. For example, you wouldn’t want a 15-minute timer to run for 1 hour 15 minutes just because of daylight saving time. I’m glad this was brought up.
To be explicit: a phone with a fast internal clock could result in the monotonic time drifting apart from the display time. The display time will be corrected periodically by cellular and other networks, but the monotonic time will not (since it by definition is not allowed to go backwards).
I caught that with Lally asking about any deleted searches. I thought it backfired in that she (read) didnt delete anything whereas the prosecutions witness (mccabe) had deleted stuff.
Love these recaps. For many trials I have the time and mindset to follow along with the live streams. However, this case was soooo long. The only time I was engaged in the live streamings was when the defense was doing their cross. Before this case, a part of me was looking forward to jury duty, but this case made me apprehensive about it actually happening. If I was on this jury, I don't know if I'd be able to stay awake and focus. These recaps are the main reason I've stayed engaged in this case. EDBs recaps are short and sweet but I enjoy the length and detail of your recaps. Great job!
You are kind. I am a peaceful man, but at different points listening to Lally go on and on… I thought that if I were on this jury, even I might have considered homicide: against him! I would’ve considered it self-defense-because I’m afraid he might have bored the whole jury-to death. I do have jury duty coming up next month, and now I have no idea how I’m going to feel about it.
Might I just say, thank you so much for not dragging the intro to your videos??? I LOVE it. So many channels just sit and yap for a solid 1-2 minutes before getting to the point.
The ARCCA report was made available to the Commonwealth MONTHS ago and the district attorney didn't like the truth. So they ignored it and went ahead with this absurd prosecution. It's mind-boggling. It's an utter disgrace.
You have THE BEST commentary recap on Karen Read by far!!!! I enjoy watching your channel and your collaborative commentary on other channels as well!!!! Awesome job! I totally agree with everything stated 100%❤
I love watching your channel. You give great commentary and you don’t talk non stop over the live trial. I appreciate that! Some UA-camrs don’t even try to pause the feed when commenting and It’s hard to hear anything at all. Especially when you have ADD like I do.
I've been watching your channel since Depp v Heard. You just keep getting better. If I ever needed a lawyer (and I've made it 65 years thus far without), it would be one like you 🌺
This site is hands down the best site for review of the day's testimony. Thanks for documenting testimony segments with a time stamp. Having watched the complete trial, I find it hard to believe this case was ever brought to trial.
Lally’s a disgrace. Admittedly I have only this case to go on, but the man is a poor lawyer, his approach to some of the evidence has either been incompetent or deliberately misleading, he has no charisma or ability to connect with people on the stand, his questions read like a rambling Reddit reply, and apparently he couldn’t give a toss about people’s right to search for an attorney. Man’s a disgrace.
Mabe Colin bashed him with a fire extinguisher. After watching their gang accost turtle boy recently, they all seem prone to extreme outbursts . ....Great job on your videos btw....
I agree but I genuinely think his bitterness came from the entire internet making fun of his intelligence and how outmatched he is against the defendant’s Hollywood team. I should say this has nothing to do with why on earth he prosecuted KR and his dirty tactics but just an observation.
Just the fact that he brought this case to trial and is wasting resources that could have been used elsewhere make me question his ethics. Jon O'Keefe does deserve justice, but Lally should have known this wasn't going to get him that justice.
Your commentary is top tier!! I have been watching the trial on a few different channels and I have enjoyed what each analyst has to say. I do look forward to your recaps the most. Thanks for your efforts!
I am so curious about how Trooper Proctor has processed and analyzed evidence and data in past investigations or how he's testified in any previous cases compared to his performance in this case 🤔
I had a lot of questions after the CWs experts testified. They didn’t use the same operating system, they didn’t have access to the whole phone, and they both spent time discrediting Mr Greene. Mr. Greene however, answered honestly, in terms easily understood, and conclusive. The CW spent way too much time and resources to discredit that search, I am apt to think it did happen, and Mr Greene solidified that for me. I knew nothing of this case before it started, and I have been not guilty since Matt McCabe was on the stand.
Loved Dr Russell. Eminently qualified and experienced. From the first time I saw the photo of the arm wounds I thought dog bite. I’ve seen a few dog attack patients in my years as an Emergency RN, and that was my first thought seeing those wounds. Dr Russell was able to explain why, especially the small roundish ‘punctate’ marks from the point of a tooth. I can’t wait for the ARCCA experts. I’ve also seen and cared for pedestrians hit by all manner of motor vehicles at varying speeds. I have never ever seen such localised injuries. Ever. Nothing else other than severe head injuries, arm abrasions and another minor abrasion on one knee. Rib fractures consistent with active CPR (have felt that happen myself, it’s not pleasant). I know I’m not an expert, but this just hasn’t been my experience with vehicle v/ pedestrian injuries.
LYK tried to say that at the end the forensic expert looked bad because he agreed with Lally's "people can misinterpret celebrite data like you have now". But I agree with your assessment about how in the end he looks credible. The witness seemed like a sweet old man who is trying to answer the question without taking offense at the small digs from Lally. His explanation that with the different celebrite updates was good, but still in the end I don't care if Jen made the search at 2:27 nor does it matter. All the witnesses on that point cancel each other out in my mind.
Exactly. I thought at first that the 'hos long to die in cold' search was a big deal but it's not really that relevant in the grand scheme of things. Having said that, if it wasn't really such a big deal, why has Lally spent so much time trying to prove she didn't make that search at that time?
The other thing that really stood out to me with this witness for non-tech me was that he did all his things with the same phone and same iOS. The CW tech experts each used different phones/OS. That resonated common sense with me - apples compared with apples. Much more credible imo.
it will be a great injustice if Reed is convicted - it’s an injustice she had to pay high dollar attys and suffer through being charged in the first place! Shame she can’t SUE
She may be able to bring a civil suit IF the real story comes out and the real perpetrator gets charged. If it comes out that it was colin and everyone is covering for him, she could probably file a civil suit against the parties that lied. One would think she'd be aloud to at least recoup some of what she spent to defend herself
Green plainly enjoyed his work on this case . Dr Russell was getting annoyed with Lally’s rudeness . I could see her jaw pushing out and she went into a very professional mode . She was very impressive .
@Alyte, did you get a chance to see the videos of @Turtle boy in Canton yesterday? He went there to do an experiment on the "ascending/descending" theory on Oakdale Rd? after he debunked it (as it's "the flattest surface in the world") in his words, he went to the bar/restaurant where KR & JOK were (to have dinner) & basically pictures were taken, suddenly he & Melissa were ambushed/ had phone smacked out his hand, then taken from him. He was threatened & lots of bad words & accusations were made but all caught on multiple phones. Not sure if it's all over UA-cam but im sure it will be. Sorry for long message, just wanted to know your take on the whole thing?
Waze, for security reasons has a 5 min delay on people’s GPS location. If you use Waze you can see other Wazers on the road. There is a delay so you cannot stalk someone. I believe Waze has this on a FAQ page
Jen's search doesn't matter to me, either way. I've thought all along Lally doing all the direct and cross extremely unusual. Especially in a case this long and complicated. Now I think it was so the CW could control all the witnesses to stay the course. Another prosecutor, especially from a different DA district might have viewed the "evidence" differently and raised the red flag. Or maybe the other prosecutors were smart enough not to get involved. Just saying!
When I first saw lucky loughran come up to the stand I was quite concerned and then he started speaking and I thought oh my goodness I'm really worried for this guy Lolly is going to be so mean to him and the cool part is is that he really held his own even with the basketball hoop thing I was so impressed with his testimony when he was done but the best part of all was absolutely when he said that God forbid any animals, I cried out with joy that he was such a kind person because it seems like there are a surprising number of kind people in Canton in spite of some of the ugliness that goes on. Of course that's everywhere but after watching the whole thing with Turtle Boy last night in Canton at CF McCarthy's when the entire family was harassing him and two of them assaulted him by snatching and hitting his phone out of his hand the best part is is that at the end when it was all over there was like the last half of the video was like the whole town of Canton showing up and waiting in this huge line and in the parking lot with all these people waiting to take pictures with turtle boy he was signing teenage boys chests and all kinds of stuff it was great there were so many people out there in support of him. It really said a lot
Ultimately the defense’s witnesses so far seem much more credible as a whole than the slew of witnesses the prosecution presented. I think they came across as open, not defensive, not evasive as if they had something to hide, and not manipulative as if still in the act of hiding something. If there was a major problem with their testimonies, I think it resides more with Lally’s questions than it does with the substance of their testimony. If I were a juror and had to do a side-by-side by what I saw from the witness stand from these three as compared to, say, Proctor, Paul, and Jen McCabe, for example, those experiences are worlds apart.
When you take a fact-based approach, it’s always appropriate to consider a different conclusion when you encounter more facts that might change the story.
@@LegalBytesMediathe other day you seemed really swayed by the prosecution tech witness, while I still felt mystified. I was still mystified with defense tech but wondering how you'd see it. Was glad for your response...as a juror, there are far more important points to ponder, so I'd probably not concentrate on this one so much
If it’s Alan Jackson doing the closing (which I’m about 99% certain it will be), you know he’s going to punctuate all the worst words with passion and disgust.
Huge difference when you have witnesses lying and being confrontational while trying to defend their narrative and then then witnesses who are being truthful and honrst come across polite and helping.
Lally citing an NAS report which strictly analyses human bite mark impressions only was absolutely ridiculous. Whilst the premise could be considered similar, at no point did Dr. Russell ever claim she could match the impressions to one particular dog and when she attempted to say she’d read an abstract of the report Lally ‘barked’ 😂 her down about never reading the whole thing. Why would she Lally, dogs are not humans and she has never published a paper on matching dog bites to a particular dog…all in all entirely irrelevant and she despatched his buffoonery with grace IMO. The jury will certainly remember his tone with her however…he’s not scoring any points there!
I appreciate your recaps if not for your channel I would have trouble following this case. Btw I found your channel by searching for Karen Read case updates. I subscribed 😁
Lally ought to be ashamed of himself!! He knows the world is watching, yet he continues to pull sleazy moves! Talk about not having any integrity!! Imagine what he’s capable of when no one is looking!
I'm not sure whether this stood out to anyone else, but when asked whether she /felt/ pressured to deliver a certain finding, Dr. Scordi-Bello unequivocally answered that she didn't. When asked a hypothetical question to the effect of "What would you have done if someone tried to pressure you," her answer started with something like "I told them...," not "I would have told them..." So, the question was hypothetical, but the way she answered it wasn't hypothetical. I think most people believe Dr. Scordi-Bello testified honestly. I believe that, too. All of her answers make sense if she recognizes that MSP tried to pressure her, but she didn't feel pressured.
It is unbelievable how many people do not see the impossibility of Karen doing it . She was at John’s house when they said he was hit . Plus lots of other evidence including the dodgy manner of evidence given by most of the prosecution.
It doesn’t have to be binary, you can back the blue, the good blue and still be disgusted by Proctor, Higgins etc. Their supervisors allow this to happen and should be fired.
I totally missed that Lally had tried to introduce that someone was looking for a lawyer as proof of guilt. If that arguement was allowed in cases, then everyone would be guilty of just showing up to court with a lawyer representing them.
Just getting into this case today. Best clip was the first with the cheer from the crowd. From the little I know just watching the defendant Karen, today w last 3 witnesses, she's innocent and being vindicated. I know as I've been in her place.
Pokémon go uses distance walked. If you don’t turn on step counter through the health app it will give you distance walked if just have the app open. Idk if they fixed that but that’s why I don’t trust gps to be that precise.
I love this channel so much you are like our lawyer BFF , I adore your animals and the look in your face the first time you picked up n showed us the clear cat container with the kitty in it was absolutely precious and priceless. I think you are really someone special and I'm grateful I found your channel. I bet mr bytes is as handsome as you are stunningly beautiful and your babies are going to be absolutely gorgeous. Sending my love your way I hope you and baby are doing wonderfully
I think Lucky and Lally got their wires crossed, he looked down Fairview while going to another road to make sure he didn’t need to clear it again. He’s seen going back along Cedarcrest? at 6:10 by the troopers cam. He passed Fairview often but only made three passes I think.
I know who I’d rather have on my team and for me, it comes down to who has prepared better for trial, whose case makes way more sense and who doesn’t come across like this isn’t “just” a point scoring game but rather for justice for a fallen Officer and his family. But I do have a bit of a soft spot for Lucky and Mr Green!!
I think if the defense had just rested without calling any witnesses, they'd still get a not guilty verdict because the state failed to prove their case. I get why they didn't do that, but it would have been a big balls move.
The jurors don’t have any say as far as dismissing a case. They decide if she’s Guilty or Not Guilty… ! At this point, the case will not get dismissed. If it results in a hung jury, a mistrial will be declared. They will more than likely try the case again !
The judge asked Lally how long it would take to find someone to give rebuttal to Dr Russell's testimony and he said it would take about a week. Then she testified just a few days later. Now that the CW have rested does that mean they can no longer bring someone in, or can someone still be brought in under special permission due to Dr Russell entering the trial so late on?
Was there another article about this case between a year and 18 months ago, by which he would want to argue that the expert first got involved? Can he prove she read any such article?
I would've been lost on day one if it weren't for LegalBytes' analysis. During opening arguments it sounded at first like 3 couples were involved in the who, what, where and then all of the sudden it was somebody's cousins' boyfriend and some neighbors' kids and some other person's kid who was the godchild because the dad died. Then 2 adult couples were at a house, but wait it was actually 10 random people who didn't know each other, and before that the adults were at a bar, but something about somebody's uncles' pizza parlor and they had met at the waterfall, but it really all started in Aruba where siblings were vacationing but didn't see each other because they were on opposite sides of the island and some of the people in Aruba were at the waterfall. How could anyone follow any of that? I would've been so frustrated if I were a juror. I need a diagram of who these 50 people are and a timeline on day one, then tell me what matters. Lally never did that, he just threw information, relevant or not, at the jury for 29 days. He has spent all this time throwing every strand of spaghetti he has at the wall and none of it is sticking. If I were a juror I would be so angry that I had spent over a month listening to all of this and there's no evidence of a motive, how he was hit, where he was hit or that he was even hit at all! They can't even prove that she hit him! Before this case started I thought they would be able to prove that and it would be a question of if it was accidental or intentional. But this is like looking for a smoking gun when there's no bullet. Unbelievable. 🤯
based on all the things that Lally (sp?) is not doing well, it makes me wonder if he is doing that on purpose. I wonder if he personally doesn't believe she is guilty, but has been told he has to prosecute her.
The waters are basically just muddy but I personally believe that she did. Prosecution has a few people who claim that it somehow retroactively logged the data. Defense has a person who says that that WAS the browser state at 227AM and performed an experiment with a similar phone to duplicate the results.
Yes. She did. An actual expert explained why. The prosecution tried to muddy the waters. But just look at the pattern of deception and lies from most of the CW witnesses. They’ve shown that they can’t be trusted. Especially any of them in law enforcement.
According to the defense expert yes. He texted it with the same IOS she used, and found it would have to be don’t at 2;27am. It’s irrelevant at this point but does point to a third party. It also explains the multitude of butt dials and deleted calls. The McAlbert’s behaviour was very strange.
Maybe the defense can file a complain with the Boston bar about Larry that tried ti impeacv base on search for lawyer?? Maybe they can try to disbarr him???
Twenty-seven what if questions per witness. Including the defense’s. I’d like to know how long he spoke compared to Ajax and Yanetti. Aww we’ll hopefully it’ll be over today with a logical, rational NG verdict. Let Mass fix their rotten apples.
21:15 John's phone didn't search anything at 2:27 a.m. I think you meant to say Jen? Or was this a clever ploy to increase engagement from people like myself?
Lally made some crosses and comments that I believe he was pulled up on by the judge, " ask in a way where you will get a response." I believe were her words. his comments where dripping with undeserved sacasum and very unpleasant. He was coming off as extremely unlikable. i think he knows he's lost and is somewhat humiliated at this point. hence the taking it personally and increased bitterness. what I cant understand is his lack of any self awareness seemingly doubling down on a case so flawed it should never have been brought to trial. imaging being angry that your evidence is exposed as flawed, weak and the investigation corrupt. To me that makes him complicit in the corruption. if you can look at what trooper proctor has said and how the investigation was carried out and still be enraged when your 'evidence' is destroyed then sir you are as dirty and unaware as the cops that carry'd out this 'investigation'. He would do far better to just be professional and treat witness with respect regardless. it should be about the truth not personal. Seems like everyone in the case from day one hasn't ever been aware of this most basic principal. sorry rant over... Lally is the worst.
What do you think? Was Day 29 strong for the defense, or did you see weaknesses I may have missed?
In general, I felt that Lally’s crosses tried to elicit the same results as Jackson/yanetti, but he seemed to lack receipts. It’s been a few days, so I’m forgetting exactly where that happened, other than the 18 month subscription (which seemed silly of all things)
So with regards to tech savvy and the search, it doesn’t really apply here. I say this as an experienced IT professional.
At the end of the day the knowledge required to make an informed analysis of this particular issue is so INCREDIBLY specialised, that even most very tech savvy people would come up short.
What all the specialists said could make sense, but who is right can only be taken on faith for anyone without experience with analysis of data from this exact part of iOS, for this exact version. That’s the problem.
So were I in the jury, I too would say: This is almost completely irrelevant to the question of Karen’s guilt, I’m gonna ignore it.
21:29 - Just so you know... You were referring to the 2:27.am search from Jen McCabe's phone but you referenced it as John's phone. Just a little mistake that could cause some confusion. 😉
Guilty
Also with Lucky, Lally tried to impeach him on the timing of the other passes, like the first one being earlier, and Lucky said no we didn't even get the call till later so that would be wrong. It felt like to me Lucky was like having his feelings hurt that Lally was insinuating that he lied or was wrong.
The snowplow driver definitely seemed genuine and honest.
He seemed pretty unintelligent and easily swayed by a kind word or two
He was! He is! Loved watching him testify! Honest, to the point, unflappable! Salt of the earth!
he showed the jury how a genuine witness behaves when they have nothing to hide! especially on cross, it's been own goal after own goal from Lally since they tested! 😂🤦🤭
And color blind
@@confused86996 you're all over in the comments here, you got a dog in this fight?
You can't be watching the entire trial and come to the conclusion that the prosecution has proved anything. So either you aren't watching it, or you've got ulterior motives.
Which is it?
You tracked the ‘what if any’s’? Wow that’s a labour of.. well, not love, but a labour for sure!
She had to do SOMETHING to keep herself awake while Lally droned on...
@@pillettadoinswartsh4974She could have had a competition like guessing the number of jelly beans in a bottle .
A labor of masochism.
Lally was definitely angry on Friday. He was not respectful to anyone. He knows he lost this case. Thank you for your recap. On to another day.
He was so rude and spoke very clearly which he did not do for the weeks before .
Your Recaps are the best anywhere. They are quick, sharp, succinct and packed with relevant information. Better than anything we can get online FAR better than anything we can get on Court TV (or TV in general). Fantastic, thank you.
Thank you so much!! I really try to get everything in that I think is important to get a well-rounded view of what happened each day, so I really appreciate that!!
I audibly gasped at the end, when you mentioned the deleted google search for an attorney. I’ve rewatched this several times and didn’t pick it up. Absolutely disgusting behaviour.
I also didn’t pick up on it but I saw it as a way to discredit the witness. As in of course you didn’t scrutinize the defendant’s phone as you were hired by the defendant so all of your analysis is biased and therefore shouldn’t be trusted. And to be honest that kind of worked on me but I also didn’t know that what was deleted was just Read deleting hiring a lawyer. So yeah it was very much a dirty tactic by Lally that I think in most part worked.
I didn't like Lally trying to use an article from 2008 about bite ID. You cannot identify an indivual person biting another, but you can say a human did bite. He was misconstruing the research and article there. The same applies to dogs and other animals - you can determine likely size and creature but not the exact breed.
when you've got nothing, try anything !
it was SO dishonest
How many types of humans are there?
Unfortunately the evidence of matching bite marks to individuals is still admissible evidence in court. It's also been so perpetuated in the media thanks to cases like Ted Bundy that I would say most of the public doesn't realise how inaccurate it is or the context of why its accurate in some cases and some not.
Very sneaky of Lally
That was outright misinformation.
The monotonic clock is almost certainly the worst clock to rely on for the purpose of forming a timeline. It can only count upward (hence monotonic) and is therefore used primarily for calculating durations of time, rather than telling you the time.
For example, you wouldn’t want a 15-minute timer to run for 1 hour 15 minutes just because of daylight saving time. I’m glad this was brought up.
To be explicit: a phone with a fast internal clock could result in the monotonic time drifting apart from the display time. The display time will be corrected periodically by cellular and other networks, but the monotonic time will not (since it by definition is not allowed to go backwards).
I caught that with Lally asking about any deleted searches. I thought it backfired in that she (read) didnt delete anything whereas the prosecutions witness (mccabe) had deleted stuff.
Love these recaps. For many trials I have the time and mindset to follow along with the live streams. However, this case was soooo long. The only time I was engaged in the live streamings was when the defense was doing their cross. Before this case, a part of me was looking forward to jury duty, but this case made me apprehensive about it actually happening. If I was on this jury, I don't know if I'd be able to stay awake and focus. These recaps are the main reason I've stayed engaged in this case. EDBs recaps are short and sweet but I enjoy the length and detail of your recaps. Great job!
You are kind. I am a peaceful man, but at different points listening to Lally go on and on… I thought that if I were on this jury, even I might have considered homicide: against him! I would’ve considered it self-defense-because I’m afraid he might have bored the whole jury-to death. I do have jury duty coming up next month, and now I have no idea how I’m going to feel about it.
Might I just say, thank you so much for not dragging the intro to your videos??? I LOVE it. So many channels just sit and yap for a solid 1-2 minutes before getting to the point.
The ARCCA report was made available to the Commonwealth MONTHS ago and the district attorney didn't like the truth. So they ignored it and went ahead with this absurd prosecution. It's mind-boggling. It's an utter disgrace.
And what law school did you graduate from?
You have THE BEST commentary recap on Karen Read by far!!!! I enjoy watching your channel and your collaborative commentary on other channels as well!!!! Awesome job! I totally agree with everything stated 100%❤
I'm not sure if she did it but they sure didn't prove it. NOT GUILTY!
Yes, and yes! We will never know what truly happened!
I’m convinced of her innocence beyond all doubt. I don’t know exactly what did happen, but I’m very confident about what didn’t.
I love watching your channel. You give great commentary and you don’t talk non stop over the live trial. I appreciate that! Some UA-camrs don’t even try to pause the feed when commenting and It’s hard to hear anything at all. Especially when you have ADD like I do.
To me, the two experts about the timing of Jen McCabe’s Google search just cancelled each other out. 🤷🏻♀️
I've been watching your channel since Depp v Heard. You just keep getting better. If I ever needed a lawyer (and I've made it 65 years thus far without), it would be one like you 🌺
This site is hands down the best site for review of the day's testimony. Thanks for documenting testimony segments with a time stamp. Having watched the complete trial, I find it hard to believe this case was ever brought to trial.
Cops need to realize if their blue line gangs will do this to one of their own gang just how loyal they are to each other.
💯 They operate exactly like gangs, even taking one their own out and lying about it.
Lally’s a disgrace. Admittedly I have only this case to go on, but the man is a poor lawyer, his approach to some of the evidence has either been incompetent or deliberately misleading, he has no charisma or ability to connect with people on the stand, his questions read like a rambling Reddit reply, and apparently he couldn’t give a toss about people’s right to search for an attorney. Man’s a disgrace.
After seeing his closing arguments I'm convinced that it's not incompetence but indeed straight up malice.
Mabe Colin bashed him with a fire extinguisher. After watching their gang accost turtle boy recently, they all seem prone to extreme outbursts . ....Great job on your videos btw....
I saw that today . They were shocking and most of those people were in their forties but behaving like bratty teens .
They certainly showed their true colors.
They are unhinged and know what’s going to happen after this not guilty verdict.
The more I see Lally the more I dislike him and question his integrity and ethics
God forbid he tries to get the only woman driving a car around the man who died from a car smashing into his head to go to prison lol
Exactly
I agree but I genuinely think his bitterness came from the entire internet making fun of his intelligence and how outmatched he is against the defendant’s Hollywood team. I should say this has nothing to do with why on earth he prosecuted KR and his dirty tactics but just an observation.
Just the fact that he brought this case to trial and is wasting resources that could have been used elsewhere make me question his ethics. Jon O'Keefe does deserve justice, but Lally should have known this wasn't going to get him that justice.
Your commentary is top tier!! I have been watching the trial on a few different channels and I have enjoyed what each analyst has to say. I do look forward to your recaps the most. Thanks for your efforts!
Thank you!
I think the plow guy knows now they were going to try and frame him.
I am so curious about how Trooper Proctor has processed and analyzed evidence and data in past investigations or how he's testified in any previous cases compared to his performance in this case 🤔
The defense could literally call nobody and win!
Thanks for all your recaps. I really appreciate that they are super detailed so I get the info I missed (on days I miss the live feed)
Love your highlights. You are totally on point and I agree with your comments and views. So fun to listen. Thanks for what you do!
I had a lot of questions after the CWs experts testified. They didn’t use the same operating system, they didn’t have access to the whole phone, and they both spent time discrediting Mr Greene.
Mr. Greene however, answered honestly, in terms easily understood, and conclusive.
The CW spent way too much time and resources to discredit that search, I am apt to think it did happen, and Mr Greene solidified that for me.
I knew nothing of this case before it started, and I have been not guilty since Matt McCabe was on the stand.
Loved Dr Russell. Eminently qualified and experienced. From the first time I saw the photo of the arm wounds I thought dog bite. I’ve seen a few dog attack patients in my years as an Emergency RN, and that was my first thought seeing those wounds. Dr Russell was able to explain why, especially the small roundish ‘punctate’ marks from the point of a tooth.
I can’t wait for the ARCCA experts. I’ve also seen and cared for pedestrians hit by all manner of motor vehicles at varying speeds. I have never ever seen such localised injuries. Ever. Nothing else other than severe head injuries, arm abrasions and another minor abrasion on one knee. Rib fractures consistent with active CPR (have felt that happen myself, it’s not pleasant). I know I’m not an expert, but this just hasn’t been my experience with vehicle v/ pedestrian injuries.
do wonder - after 2000 what if any - how many sorta were in there as well?
LYK tried to say that at the end the forensic expert looked bad because he agreed with Lally's "people can misinterpret celebrite data like you have now". But I agree with your assessment about how in the end he looks credible. The witness seemed like a sweet old man who is trying to answer the question without taking offense at the small digs from Lally. His explanation that with the different celebrite updates was good, but still in the end I don't care if Jen made the search at 2:27 nor does it matter. All the witnesses on that point cancel each other out in my mind.
Exactly. I thought at first that the 'hos long to die in cold' search was a big deal but it's not really that relevant in the grand scheme of things.
Having said that, if it wasn't really such a big deal, why has Lally spent so much time trying to prove she didn't make that search at that time?
The other thing that really stood out to me with this witness for non-tech me was that he did all his things with the same phone and same iOS. The CW tech experts each used different phones/OS. That resonated common sense with me - apples compared with apples. Much more credible imo.
feels like Lally is there for proove the innocent of Jen and her family, not to proove KR is guilty. 🤦🏻♀️
@@gacktist00 precisely! He's like a defence attorney for Jen and Chloe
I agree with LIK though. Ideally the witness should have responded with "I didn't misinterpret anything".
That first clip was hilarious! We all felt the same way and I missed the first few days . So many dubious testimonies .
A recap and a live in one day? We are fed.
It's refreshing listening to actual intelligence, backed up with facts. For you to make your own opinion..🙂
The driver of the Ford Edge would have seen the body if there was a body there at that time.
Your dog was like, 'alright.. I'm gonna head out.'
Great analysis, as always!
it will be a great injustice if Reed is convicted - it’s an injustice she had to pay high dollar attys and suffer through being charged in the first place! Shame she can’t SUE
She may be able to bring a civil suit IF the real story comes out and the real perpetrator gets charged. If it comes out that it was colin and everyone is covering for him, she could probably file a civil suit against the parties that lied. One would think she'd be aloud to at least recoup some of what she spent to defend herself
Green plainly enjoyed his work on this case . Dr Russell was getting annoyed with Lally’s rudeness . I could see her jaw pushing out and she went into a very professional mode . She was very impressive .
Awesome recap! You’re very good, knowledgeable and very easy on the eyes! 👍🏻
You are awesome❤ so glad I found your channel. You break down the important facts and so pleasant to watch for updates.
Excellent work!!! Thank you 🙏 ❤️
@Alyte, did you get a chance to see the videos of @Turtle boy in Canton yesterday? He went there to do an experiment on the "ascending/descending" theory on Oakdale Rd? after he debunked it (as it's "the flattest surface in the world") in his words, he went to the bar/restaurant where KR & JOK were (to have dinner) & basically pictures were taken, suddenly he & Melissa were ambushed/ had phone smacked out his hand, then taken from him. He was threatened & lots of bad words & accusations were made but all caught on multiple phones. Not sure if it's all over UA-cam but im sure it will be. Sorry for long message, just wanted to know your take on the whole thing?
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Love your channel ! Very good observations!🎉
Love the content, been watching avidly, great work! Sorry if I'm wrong, but isn't 'what if anies' a typo? 😅
Jen's search doesn't matter to me, either way. I've thought all along Lally doing all the direct and cross extremely unusual. Especially in a case this long and complicated. Now I think it was so the CW could control all the witnesses to stay the course. Another prosecutor, especially from a different DA district might have viewed the "evidence" differently and raised the red flag. Or maybe the other prosecutors were smart enough not to get involved. Just saying!
Your opening was fire 🔥 you made me want to buy merch 😂
You did a great job explaining the difference between spicy and bitter and I 💯 agree 🤘🏻
I am convinced that use of "what if any" is an immediate red flag and indicator of how inept an attorney is likely to be.
When I first saw lucky loughran come up to the stand I was quite concerned and then he started speaking and I thought oh my goodness I'm really worried for this guy Lolly is going to be so mean to him and the cool part is is that he really held his own even with the basketball hoop thing I was so impressed with his testimony when he was done but the best part of all was absolutely when he said that God forbid any animals, I cried out with joy that he was such a kind person because it seems like there are a surprising number of kind people in Canton in spite of some of the ugliness that goes on. Of course that's everywhere but after watching the whole thing with Turtle Boy last night in Canton at CF McCarthy's when the entire family was harassing him and two of them assaulted him by snatching and hitting his phone out of his hand the best part is is that at the end when it was all over there was like the last half of the video was like the whole town of Canton showing up and waiting in this huge line and in the parking lot with all these people waiting to take pictures with turtle boy he was signing teenage boys chests and all kinds of stuff it was great there were so many people out there in support of him. It really said a lot
Ultimately the defense’s witnesses so far seem much more credible as a whole than the slew of witnesses the prosecution presented. I think they came across as open, not defensive, not evasive as if they had something to hide, and not manipulative as if still in the act of hiding something. If there was a major problem with their testimonies, I think it resides more with Lally’s questions than it does with the substance of their testimony. If I were a juror and had to do a side-by-side by what I saw from the witness stand from these three as compared to, say, Proctor, Paul, and Jen McCabe, for example, those experiences are worlds apart.
It's good of you to admit that you can be wrong.
When you take a fact-based approach, it’s always appropriate to consider a different conclusion when you encounter more facts that might change the story.
@@LegalBytesMediathe other day you seemed really swayed by the prosecution tech witness, while I still felt mystified. I was still mystified with defense tech but wondering how you'd see it. Was glad for your response...as a juror, there are far more important points to ponder, so I'd probably not concentrate on this one so much
There's people on other channels completely one sided, if you eve question their opinion? You'll be banished to the great beyond...🙃
can't wait for closing arguments. Me thinks the defense will use Trooper Proctor's own words as many times as possible when describing KR..
If it’s Alan Jackson doing the closing (which I’m about 99% certain it will be), you know he’s going to punctuate all the worst words with passion and disgust.
@@LegalBytesMedia absolutely. Jackson has nothing but contempt for Proctor.
Surprisingly he hardly did that, though.
Snow plow guy doesn't look like he can tell a lie maybe be confused about some details but not a liar. That would be Collin and his family.
Huge difference when you have witnesses lying and being confrontational while trying to defend their narrative and then then witnesses who are being truthful and honrst come across polite and helping.
Mystery Solved: Those BITE MARKS ARE jennifer's😮 😂
That is funny Jennifer . 👍😁
The way I cackled when you called Lally a dirty bastard lol
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Lally citing an NAS report which strictly analyses human bite mark impressions only was absolutely ridiculous. Whilst the premise could be considered similar, at no point did Dr. Russell ever claim she could match the impressions to one particular dog and when she attempted to say she’d read an abstract of the report Lally ‘barked’ 😂 her down about never reading the whole thing. Why would she Lally, dogs are not humans and she has never published a paper on matching dog bites to a particular dog…all in all entirely irrelevant and she despatched his buffoonery with grace IMO. The jury will certainly remember his tone with her however…he’s not scoring any points there!
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I wonder, could the prosecution have held their tech experts about Jen McCabe's text for a rebuttal? Is that allowed?
I appreciate your recaps if not for your channel I would have trouble following this case. Btw I found your channel by searching for Karen Read case updates. I subscribed 😁
Lol I love that opener!
Lally ought to be ashamed of himself!! He knows the world is watching, yet he continues to pull sleazy moves! Talk about not having any integrity!! Imagine what he’s capable of when no one is looking!
Don't be surprised if Lally is just letting things play themselves out while making sure he doesn't get included in the DOJ investigation.
I would say not guilty for KR. I wish a judge would say she is innocent.
Lally seems to have the exact same level of ethics and professionalism as the CW police department.
I'm not sure whether this stood out to anyone else, but when asked whether she /felt/ pressured to deliver a certain finding, Dr. Scordi-Bello unequivocally answered that she didn't. When asked a hypothetical question to the effect of "What would you have done if someone tried to pressure you," her answer started with something like "I told them...," not "I would have told them..." So, the question was hypothetical, but the way she answered it wasn't hypothetical.
I think most people believe Dr. Scordi-Bello testified honestly. I believe that, too. All of her answers make sense if she recognizes that MSP tried to pressure her, but she didn't feel pressured.
I blame the sheep that continue to be pro law enforcement
That statement is literally sheep minded though.
You should take each case in itself and judge on its merits
It is unbelievable how many people do not see the impossibility of Karen doing it . She was at John’s house when they said he was hit . Plus lots of other evidence including the dodgy manner of evidence given by most of the prosecution.
@@BlackStump172 You watch the trial?
It doesn’t have to be binary, you can back the blue, the good blue and still be disgusted by Proctor, Higgins etc. Their supervisors allow this to happen and should be fired.
I totally missed that Lally had tried to introduce that someone was looking for a lawyer as proof of guilt. If that arguement was allowed in cases, then everyone would be guilty of just showing up to court with a lawyer representing them.
Since defense didn't call Allie to explain that JOHN WAS AT THE HOUSE, then maybe they'll wait for the charges to be filed against Albert
Just getting into this case today. Best clip was the first with the cheer from the crowd. From the little I know just watching the defendant Karen, today w last 3 witnesses, she's innocent and being vindicated. I know as I've been in her place.
18:18 6-12-18 months? was Lally trying to make it sound like Dr. Russell has a bad memory (from just 2 days ago)
Is the motion to dismiss done in the presence of jury?
Pokémon go uses distance walked. If you don’t turn on step counter through the health app it will give you distance walked if just have the app open. Idk if they fixed that but that’s why I don’t trust gps to be that precise.
I love this channel so much you are like our lawyer BFF , I adore your animals and the look in your face the first time you picked up n showed us the clear cat container with the kitty in it was absolutely precious and priceless. I think you are really someone special and I'm grateful I found your channel. I bet mr bytes is as handsome as you are stunningly beautiful and your babies are going to be absolutely gorgeous. Sending my love your way I hope you and baby are doing wonderfully
I think Lucky and Lally got their wires crossed, he looked down Fairview while going to another road to make sure he didn’t need to clear it again. He’s seen going back along Cedarcrest? at 6:10 by the troopers cam. He passed Fairview often but only made three passes I think.
I learned about the request for dismal at this point from the book Presumed Innocent
I know who I’d rather have on my team and for me, it comes down to who has prepared better for trial, whose case makes way more sense and who doesn’t come across like this isn’t “just” a point scoring game but rather for justice for a fallen Officer and his family.
But I do have a bit of a soft spot for Lucky and Mr Green!!
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22:30 I'm with you about the Jen McCabe search. If you throw that out, the McCabe crew still seems pretty shady, IMO.
Is the Judge allowed to pick the Jury Foreman ?
I think if the defense had just rested without calling any witnesses, they'd still get a not guilty verdict because the state failed to prove their case. I get why they didn't do that, but it would have been a big balls move.
Are bumpers supposed to be the same height as other bumpers? I mean, what’s the point of a bumper if it doesn’t protect people and vehicles?
If all jurors say the case should be dismissed(?), but for different reasons. Would that still be a unanomous decision?
The jurors don’t have any say as far as dismissing a case. They decide if she’s Guilty or Not Guilty… ! At this point, the case will not get dismissed. If it results in a hung jury, a mistrial will be declared. They will more than likely try the case again !
The judge asked Lally how long it would take to find someone to give rebuttal to Dr Russell's testimony and he said it would take about a week. Then she testified just a few days later. Now that the CW have rested does that mean they can no longer bring someone in, or can someone still be brought in under special permission due to Dr Russell entering the trial so late on?
I think he can bring in an expert for that specific expert for rebuttal, don't qoute me tho.
She was the only expert who is qualified to give a rebuttal when he looked for one lol
Was there another article about this case between a year and 18 months ago, by which he would want to argue that the expert first got involved? Can he prove she read any such article?
With all the blatantly open and seemingly normalized corruption, I don't have much faith for a good outcome. Expect the worst, hope for the best 🤷🏻♀️
Snowplow driver said he didn’t see a body at 5:30am.
I would've been lost on day one if it weren't for LegalBytes' analysis. During opening arguments it sounded at first like 3 couples were involved in the who, what, where and then all of the sudden it was somebody's cousins' boyfriend and some neighbors' kids and some other person's kid who was the godchild because the dad died. Then 2 adult couples were at a house, but wait it was actually 10 random people who didn't know each other, and before that the adults were at a bar, but something about somebody's uncles' pizza parlor and they had met at the waterfall, but it really all started in Aruba where siblings were vacationing but didn't see each other because they were on opposite sides of the island and some of the people in Aruba were at the waterfall.
How could anyone follow any of that? I would've been so frustrated if I were a juror. I need a diagram of who these 50 people are and a timeline on day one, then tell me what matters. Lally never did that, he just threw information, relevant or not, at the jury for 29 days. He has spent all this time throwing every strand of spaghetti he has at the wall and none of it is sticking. If I were a juror I would be so angry that I had spent over a month listening to all of this and there's no evidence of a motive, how he was hit, where he was hit or that he was even hit at all! They can't even prove that she hit him! Before this case started I thought they would be able to prove that and it would be a question of if it was accidental or intentional. But this is like looking for a smoking gun when there's no bullet. Unbelievable. 🤯
based on all the things that Lally (sp?) is not doing well, it makes me wonder if he is doing that on purpose. I wonder if he personally doesn't believe she is guilty, but has been told he has to prosecute her.
Ok im confused. Does this mean it was in fact, confirmed that Jen McCabe DID make the "Hos long to die in cold" @ 2:27am?
The waters are basically just muddy but I personally believe that she did.
Prosecution has a few people who claim that it somehow retroactively logged the data.
Defense has a person who says that that WAS the browser state at 227AM and performed an experiment with a similar phone to duplicate the results.
Yes. She did. An actual expert explained why.
The prosecution tried to muddy the waters. But just look at the pattern of deception and lies from most of the CW witnesses. They’ve shown that they can’t be trusted. Especially any of them in law enforcement.
According to the defense expert yes. He texted it with the same IOS she used, and found it would have to be don’t at 2;27am. It’s irrelevant at this point but does point to a third party. It also explains the multitude of butt dials and deleted calls. The McAlbert’s behaviour was very strange.
Maybe the defense can file a complain with the Boston bar about Larry that tried ti impeacv base on search for lawyer?? Maybe they can try to disbarr him???
hopefully they bring charges on Colin Albert byan Albert Jennifer McCabe that's what I heard .
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Twenty-seven what if questions per witness. Including the defense’s. I’d like to know how long he spoke compared to Ajax and Yanetti. Aww we’ll hopefully it’ll be over today with a logical, rational NG verdict. Let Mass fix their rotten apples.
21:15 John's phone didn't search anything at 2:27 a.m. I think you meant to say Jen? Or was this a clever ploy to increase engagement from people like myself?
Lally made some crosses and comments that I believe he was pulled up on by the judge, " ask in a way where you will get a response." I believe were her words. his comments where dripping with undeserved sacasum and very unpleasant. He was coming off as extremely unlikable. i think he knows he's lost and is somewhat humiliated at this point. hence the taking it personally and increased bitterness. what I cant understand is his lack of any self awareness seemingly doubling down on a case so flawed it should never have been brought to trial. imaging being angry that your evidence is exposed as flawed, weak and the investigation corrupt. To me that makes him complicit in the corruption. if you can look at what trooper proctor has said and how the investigation was carried out and still be enraged when your 'evidence' is destroyed then sir you are as dirty and unaware as the cops that carry'd out this 'investigation'. He would do far better to just be professional and treat witness with respect regardless. it should be about the truth not personal. Seems like everyone in the case from day one hasn't ever been aware of this most basic principal. sorry rant over... Lally is the worst.