It’s obvious Peter hasn’t actually been watching all of the testimony. Nick and Kevin have. Any attorney featured should speak with knowledge of actual testimony, not reckless bloviation.
I'm still mad about what Proctor said about Karen Read. He better get fired. Each comment he said was worse than the previous, he is the lead detective, he no credibility! Proctor is Suss! I believe he is a woman hater. I'm sure he has planted evidence in the past. PROCTOR didn't do his job objectively . Too much reasonable doubt in this case, you must acquit Karen Read.....then Karen can sue!and get all the money she spent on an awesome defense.......Proctor is most hated.....yep, most hated!!!!!!
So if you wanna know the truth, look under the freshly port concrete in the basement of the house and locate the dog that list those bite and scratch marks all over his upper torso there you go that’s it and that’s all
@@Krystal_Kleerthe only thing disgusting is that narcissist Karen read who almost killed a man and then let him freeze to death. Nothing else disturbs me in this case. Only killing an innocent man and now she smiles about it. Monster.
I didn’t know she had a colonoscopy, I heard medical issues I never heard what was said until now. Highly offensive from a Mass.Trooper, just sickening.
He is such a vile ignorant man. Who could possibly choose to associate with let alone employ this guy. He brings shame to law enforcement, the state of Massachusetts and his family.
Getting drunk and driving around with an Albert who lost his gun and badge in the squad because they were SO DRUNK together....but he said earlier they were not acquainted.
@@hopingforanswers7376why did you put a bunch of those one hundred emoticons as you’re comment? “One hundred one hundred one hundred one hundred one hundred one hundred” is what you said. What does that supposed to mean?
Wow! The more I listen to this case the more I feel this poor woman is innocent and being plotted to take the fall for a crime she did not commit. Something happened to that man but by the people in that house and they are all lying. And if they can lie like this then I'm concerned for all the people they have arrested over the years. They need to do a eternal investigation into whats going on at that police department.
They literally said in opening statements that Karen was FRAMED. They have yet to prove that. Also, Alan Jackson did nothing to prove/show that Proctor planted tail light pieces. Focused solely on Proctors texts. Oooof.
This case is over. Not guilty. It's ridiculous that they never even knocked on the door of the cops house where a cop was found injured on his front lawn. Not Guilty.
@@udhehfhehcuw9169You mean the solo cup evidence in the shopping bag, or the evidence found using the leaf blower from some dude's garage after we see on video one of the investigators fingerings some of it in the snow or the chopped up video played in mirror image to the jury without any mention from witness or prosecutor that the video was flipped and missing large amounts of time, or the fact that two people in law enforcement connected to the victim the night of his death completely destroyed their phones of any digital evidence to diwtance themselves from Officer okeefe, or the fact that an officer not associated with Canton Pd or MSP contradicted the condition of Karen reeds rear right tail light?
@@udhehfhehcuw9169 You know damn well what I mean. The absolute cuckup of evidence collection and lack of chain of evidence and a lead investigators with an ax to grind.
I agree. I think they did a very bad job of investigating John O'keefes murder. But I think she's guilty. She said it herself and she was pretty drunk when she was dropping him off.
@@sunshine22723the only thing that the evidence doesn’t point to is to a car accident. How the lesion on the back of his head? How come there is no other i jury below the neck?
When the verdict comes back not Guilty, if I was Karen Reed I would file a civil suit & get Trooper Proctor & the rest of them all who were involved. All that she went through She should be compensated, Can't even imagine all the stress & money she paid to fight for her innocence. This investigation was corrupt from the start & lead Investigator Trooper Proctor should of been fired immediately for all those texts & name calling Proctor made, To a person he don't even know, & Proctor didn't even go inside the house that should of been a part of the investigation. Proctor is married but joking with his fellow partners in making comments that were clearly inappropriate about Karen Reed. All of them on the investigation should be fired & the albert & McCabe should all be charged for conspiracy of a cover up. Karen Reed is not a whack Job, She fought for her innocence
This pathetic excuse for a police officer is not fit to polish Karen read's shoes. What an absolute disgrace. He's not going to be able to get a job collecting shopping carts in a supermarket
The video of Karen Read backing out of the drive, hitting John's car was what did it for me. NOT because his car moved, but because of the BRIGHT RED glow of when she hit her brakes! Snow or no snow, a missing taillight cover would show a bright white beam. Corruption is evident, in my opinion.
Ya, no. She didn't hit JO SUV. The video shows that it was broken if you look closely. There was no opportunity for Proctor to run over to JO house after he's dead, smash the light, in the garage pick up all the pieces, go back to the scene, plant the evidence under the snow. You can't explain how that's possible after conspiring with everyone else to frame RK.
@smacdonald5142 well after watching today's testimony, I'm going to be curious as to how that taillight transfered 3 and 4 other male DNA unknowns on John's bloody clothes 🤔
Really with her car? Makes no sense. My lexus will alert mt if something is like 10 feet away from me. Her car data will tell that. Where is the photo of that smashed light. And where is the information from the black box
The sensors will go crazy and the car will automatically engage the breaks, well this feature is in my wifes VW Polo so i'm sure this Lexus would be a lot more sophisticated which makes it even more difficult to kill someone by reversing over them. At the very least u will be able to injure but a grown ass Policeman that has all the skills to ensure his safety, come-on!!!!!! Smell like a set up!!!
If Proctor is found to have tampered with the case and evidence to target Karen Read, he should be held liable for ALL court costs, to include both the defense’s and prosecution’s legal fees. Additionally he should be forced to pay back EVERY dollar collected as a State Trooper from the State of Massachusetts from Jan 29, 2022. If he can’t afford it, seize his assets.
IF Karen Read was guilty, these investigators did a fantastic job of freeing her by incompetence, tunnel vision, and a completely biased investigation. Proctor's behavior is disgusting! And thanking the jury was proof that he is oblivious to his impact! I was embarrassed FOR him! I foresee many new appeals in criminal cases in Massachusetts, as well there should be !
Yes how many people sitting in jail are innocent just because Proctor didn't like them or because he made his determination seconds after he was on the scene of a crime!!!!
Is Proctor a sociopath? He has no remorse or shame over anything he did. And lied about Yanetti bothering his sister at school, when Yanetti was near by in a parking lot to talk to another witness.
Lucky the plow driver will clear that up for the defence. That’s who Yannetti and Karen’s hired detective were meeting in the parking lot to get a tour of the route he plowed that night.
He’s a pos. But… he may have gotten the wrong information from his seemingly also disturbed sister. No doubt he is capable of spinning yarns, but they can’t prove intent because she could very well have told him that info. Disgusting representation to the amazing men and women in blue. But it’s a well-known fact that the good old boy system is still alive and well in New England
I didn’t know you could go to prison for bad words said in texts to friends ?? When was this law brought in? I know you can go to jail for killing a man. Or you should.
@@stevenprice6957If you’re a police officer and you’re acting corrupt in your police investigations, yes you need to be fired and charged especially if you’re lying or skewing the truth in said investigations. It can ruin lives.
"Not completely damaged it was cracked and a piece was missing and not completely damaged. Nicholas Barros on what he observed of the SUV right taillight at the Reads Dighton residence."
Proctor, The Narcissist truly believes he's trustworthy and that we totally believe his every single word. He's a douche, deserves to be exposed, and his career in ANY capacity of law enforcement should be terminated indefinitely. This fawking bias judge should be charged for not recusing herself and for corruption. The jury isn't stupid nor ignorant. They're another Karen Read, another you, another me. They must acquit.
There’s one narcissist in that room. It’s the killer that smiles away on front of the victims family. It’s the one that spin doctors the media. She’s pathetic
@@stevenprice6957 actually, Dr. Ramani, a behavioral psychologist stated that even though only 1 to 5 % of narcissists have been diagnosed as such .... by manner of what this disorder is, the person with it, doesn't see it. They refuse accountability, have little to no empathy, entitlement, etc ... Most people will live and die without an official diagnosis because they don't have a rock bottom. Even when someone calls them out, they find a way to deflect or gas light, to play victim. Dr. Ramani made a bold statement that she feels it's more like every one in six people that would be high on the spectrum (and she gave one example: domestic abuse. Someone capable of domestic abuse IS a narcissist. This person began charismatic, charming, romantic, loving ... and then became controlling and abusive. Domestic abuse, alone, encompasses a high percentage of people and no, domestic abusers aren't going into therapy to be confirmed as narcissists). So I doubt it's only one person in that entire room. But one thing we know about narcissism ... helping fields like police, medical, fire departments, etc ... attract them. A clean image matters to them ... They love accolades and validation. I don't know if Karen did, or didn't, run over John. I think it's plausible that an accident may have occurred. People were drinking, having a great time. But what the videos from the bar that night show ... is a lot of affection between John & Karen. The problem is, Proctor and his cronies were so focused on proving murder ... and because of that, John O'Keefe will never have real justice. It's their fault if no one is convicted. The entire case is a clown show. But honestly, I think Proctor's texts are the nail in the coffin of this case.
Need evidence to search the Albert’s home. How about the dead guy was seen drinking at a bar with the home owner. How about that. This trial is a disaster for the state.
They didn’t search the house even AFTER they knew John was invited over for drinks. It hey disregard the basement floor that was replaced and a source of generational wealth sold at a loss.Let’s all trust the guy that called Karen every dirty word in the book.
Trooper Barros testified that the taillight was cracked but not completely broken when they were putting it on the tow truck. Trooper Proctor also mentioned that Colin Albert was there different times, first he said Colin Albert wasn’t there when the party/ gathering was happening then he said Colin got there after so it wasnt raising questions in his mind he didn’t find it important ???? 🤔🤨
@@50LOVESIT The Ring video was from Officer John O'Keefe's residence. Trooper Michael Proctor had access to O'Keefe's Ring account. During the trial so far, it was discovered that another investigator notated the 12:41am video of Karen Read arriving back at O'Keefe's home, but according to Trooper Proctor, there was no video at 12:41am. In my opinion, he deleted the video because it exonerates Karen Read. Brady Violation
@@stevenprice6957 He didn't "try". He had full access to Officer O'Keefe's Ring account. No one said Karen Read had full access to O'Keefe's Ring account. Also, TROOPER PROCTOR HAD KAREN READ'S PHONE AND PUT IT ON AIRPLANE MODE SO THAT SHE COULD NOT ACCESS ANY OF HER ACCOUNTS.
But that would require to be documented and they didn’t want anyone to have a photo of the intact taillight. I wonder why Karen never took a picture either. And all the videos that would show that tail light are missing
@@francescawilliams8177because she was in complete anxiety and panic mode, immediately followed by immense grief. It was the furthest thing from her mind.
Procter & Albert were working on a Cold Case together" ... yea, a cold case of beer 🍺 ...these officers were so drunk they lost their shield and badge, and driving drunk in the police cruiser. !
If that is another factor besides his comments and bias , it best be included in his firing...he used his work vehicle to go bar hopping....Proctor is disgusting!!
What a 💩 show this was. Proctor and Lally are the most evil besides the ones who actually murdered this poor police officer and frame it. Absolutely a barf fest……SHAME ON ALL OF YOU!
Someone really needs to investigate this judge. She’s biased and uninterested in the truth. I guarantee innocents are imprisoned due to her lack of professionalism and integrity.
Certainly, they haven't endorced their son John's Killers! Maybe they are very simple people that don't want to believe their son could belong to a group of cops who could be so vile! Folks, open your minds up. Your son was killed by other cops and their wives and probably a 20 yr old nephew!
As a fellow police officer, why No one came out of that house to check what was going on.on their front lawn he was a fellow officer and they knew he was there.
Hey Kevin you didn’t mention all the minutes missing from the video or the dighton trooper who has no skin in this game say there was only a piece missing in the tail light at her fathers place. The fact that that they had the ring camera from John’s house where Karen came home, it was in the notes then it disappeared after it hit proctors hands. You don’t mention any of that!!!
He has such a difficult position to defend that he has chosen to ignore evidence, and his personal evidence is incredulity. His whole argument is "if this is a frame job, it would mean that a large number of corrupt people, part of a corrupt organization, are capable of lying to protect themselves". Gee! I'm flabbergasted at such a thing!
When she is found not guilty Karen needs to be taking legal action against law enforcement. What an absolutely disgraceful person and an embarrassing day for police.
"Hi Kevin, do you still think Karen read is guilty" "100% Vinnie ,, I think she is also guilty of making trooper Proctor become corrupt , she is so guilty it threw trooper proctor off his normal exemplary duty, she's going to jail vinnie"
There are many like Kevin when it comes down to law enforcement even if Proctor would confess to planting evidence Kevin would be heartbroken and it still would be hard for him to believe that so many are involved in a cover up.
You are ridiculing Kevin. I think he is the kind of person who has the ability to say he is wrong if the evidence convinces him. He hasn't been convinced yet. He has a lot of common sense. 👍👍
Kevin is the type of juror the prosecution hopes for - that when they pretend to be all official by putting on their little gloves and holding up "evidence" in court that it means they actually have a case 😂
This man is so vile he shouldn't be a cop. Why would Julie Albert want to get Proctor a gift? Because he kept Colin's name out of it? Proctor covered for Colin and Brian Albert. Did they kill him and did Chloe scratch & bite JO arm as he tried to fend Chloe off. Why did it take so long to interview all those involved and why no recordings? Collection of evidence in solo cups and then worst of all the text message. If I were on this jury I would find Karen Read NOT Guilty. The CW hasn't proven KR was involved. I have a friend whose grandchild is mentally challenged. We don't call him retarded that is so offensive, so very offensive. We all know someone who has MS or has Crohn's Disease. Proctor should be FIRED.
tunnel vision, plus the hard evidence and interviews would not fit his narrative, he didnt look coz he knew what he would find...Didnt even go inside the house? Lazy Lizzard
Disgrace to every State Trooper who has worn the uniform with honor. The MSP is full of honest decent men and women. Proctor needs to be fired without any retirement benefits. He will be allowed to retire and our tax dollars will be spent so he can live comfortably absolute travesty of justice. He is dirty and a disgrace.
How many instances of “missing video “ are we supposed to accept? There are now FOUR instances where we could see Karen’s backlight completely in tact or slightly cracked and all 4 videos are “missing”. She is innocent.
Aside from the absolutely disgusting and unacceptable way that the lead investigator proctor (who clearly had an agenda from early on) conducted himself there are so many holes in the prosections case that clearly this jury will have more than ample reasonable doubt. Vinnie- why dont you point out these key facts - 1)John Okeefe did not have ANY injuries to his body that are consistent with being struck with a vehicle 2)no one saw a 6 foot body on that tiny lawn after KR left 3) the material that the taillight is made of is extremely difficult to shatter in the 47 pieces by hitting a human by the vehicle going backwards and that are claimed to have been found AFTER the SUV had been taken into custody 4) at the time of the initial investigation when there was light snow cover not ONE single taillight piece was found even though officers had a leaf blower and searched the area 5) no one can explain why there are so many minutes missing at a key time in the sallyport when it could have been a perfect opportunity for proctor to remove pieces of taillight 6)WHY would they have brought the lexus SUV to a sallyport almost an hour away to a police department that had recused themselves when there were facilities so much closer to where they picked up the vehicle ?? 7) why is the video of KR returning to johns home at 12:41 missing ??? 8) why is the video from the library missing at the key time that KR drove past there? 9) why did Jen Mccabe do a google search at 2:20 am in the morning "hos long to die in the cold?" And then delete it? Why do other police investigations rely on celebrite data such as this on every other investigation and now suddenly celbrite is wrong ? I could go on and on and on with the MASSIVE holes in this investgation however even wuth just a few of these this trial should NEVER have happened and some of those involved including Proctor and Higgins have perjured themselves so badly that i cannot imagine that in the federal investgation they wont be charged with something.
Officer Okeefe was slammed in the face by his glass, the dog attacked- John lost balance, fell and fractured skull. I don't think anyone wanted to kill him, that was an undesired outcome but there was a fight, so there goes the coverup
If he's letting his emotions get the best of him, he can't lead a fair investigation. He obviously didn't take any measures to counteract or take his bias into consideration. If he actually did not think Brian Albert had anything to do with the death, why wouldn't he take actions to rule him out? Why wouldn't he go into the home and show there's no evidence inside the home? The very best case scenario for Procter is a bad case of tunnel vision and he decided to 'help' the evidence, as opposed to an active cover up.
Yannetti talked to about why he was at the school. He didn’t know Courtney worked there and no one told him he couldn’t be there. Proctor committed perjury and that’s why he had that reaction. He went there to meet up with Lucky because that’s where he asked him to meet him. He went to talk to him and prepare him with his investigator bc he will testify if not from the prosecution he will testify under the defense. He wanted Lucky to show him his route when he plows the streets.
. How did he get knowledge of her illnesses? 16 hrs into hisso-calledd investigatio, he made up his mind that Karen did it. 3 witnesses mccabes and 1 Albert. Owe and then the EMT. Really dude
Vinnie, I love and appreciate the way you cover your cases. You and "Lawyer You Know" are the best out there with objectivity and easy to understand interpretation! Thank you for what you do!!
Proctor was supposed to help JOHN find justice. He failed. He failed miserably. Dear John, I’m so sorry. Lots of people see you even tho the people investigating your murder didn’t.
@@RichardZabielski-ql9ss yea, probably money then. Cops tell themselves they work hard. They don’t. They work *long* because they get insane over time pay. And during overtime, they get to be away from the wives and kids they secretly hate and talk about women suspects they want to hate-f*ck.
To get a search warrant you need evidence he was in the house, ... how do you prove he was not in the house ? ... going on heresay? ... eat about he was invited to be there ? ... how do you know he wasn't in the house? ... heresay???
Kevin... Karen doesn't have to prove ish because the prosecution holds the burden so you obviously don't know anything about what you're talking about. Karen doesn't have to prove anything and can have as many theories as they want. Weak!
So if JO was laying on the front lawn in a less affluent area, where the occupants were not police..... would this case had been dealt with in the same way?? 🤔
It is VERY suspect that Proctor is the one who found multiple pieces during the week after the body being found. "he happened to be driving by and happened to see (from his car) pieces of tail light. Seriously!!!!
Also,,,if she was mad at him,,, thats the LAST PLACE SHE WOULD WANT TO HARM HI!!!!!! PERIOD!!!! RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIS COP BUDDIES HOME!!?????!!! YEAH, SHES GONNA DO IT THERE!! GMAFB!!!🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
A lot of cops when they think x person did it they don’t look at other possibilities. I have seen so many documentaries about this. Very scary that’s why I always tell my family never talk to cops always ask for a lawyer
Nick is 1000% right. Why no picture of Karen's taillight from Dighton? How do we know the timestamps are even authentic at the sallyport? They could have cracked off a large piece + headed straight to 34 Fairview.
How do you explain the large piece of taillight missing at 8.42am from the wellness check footage. That footage showing a large piece missing is approximately nine hours before the SUV ever got to the Sally port. That wellness check footage is before Proctor ever got involved.
@@kerrygold6494 No video exists, because no large piece was missing. Nice try though. The Dighton cop even sad it had a crack + a SMALL piece was missing.
When I started watching this trial a few weeks ago I thought she was just overcharged but did it. Today I‘m convinced she is innocent - and this is still the state’s case …
#CourtTV - What do YOU think?
It’s obvious Peter hasn’t actually been watching all of the testimony. Nick and Kevin have.
Any attorney featured should speak with knowledge of actual testimony, not reckless bloviation.
I'm still mad about what Proctor said about Karen Read. He better get fired. Each comment he said was worse than the previous, he is the lead detective, he no credibility! Proctor is Suss! I believe he is a woman hater. I'm sure he has planted evidence in the past. PROCTOR didn't do his job objectively . Too much reasonable doubt in this case, you must acquit Karen Read.....then Karen can sue!and get all the money she spent on an awesome defense.......Proctor is most hated.....yep, most hated!!!!!!
Yeah, she's going to run him over, right outside of his" COP FRIENDS HOUSE"??!!!!! GTFOH! RIDICULOUS! 🙄
Even if she was frikin passed off as he'll. NOT in front of his friends "cops" home????? Give me a break!!!
So if you wanna know the truth, look under the freshly port concrete in the basement of the house and locate the dog that list those bite and scratch marks all over his upper torso there you go that’s it and that’s all
Any investigator who can talk like that is completely capable of planting evidence.
Exactly what i said and believe!
And deleting evidence ...
Such a disgusting human being 😡
BIG TIME
I totally agree
I can’t believe he’s still employed as a state cop. Imagine him being involved in another case? He’s a liability. Among other reasons.
And seems like he is leading another case now.
And he said he is still lead investigator of THIS case!!😠
I wonder if they’ll force him to quit after this public humiliation
Huge case Brian Walshe his lawyer is filing motions soon. He's guilty but proctor is the investigator that town is pissed with the MSP
@@allochicaI think they have to after he admitted to driving his police vehicle drunk
Proctor never investigated anything, settled his target on Karen from the start
Maybe because all roads pointed to Karen.
@@stevenprice6957 There were no roads taken. He put it park and made a decision. Absolutely disgusting.
@@Krystal_Kleerlol
@@Krystal_Kleerthe only thing disgusting is that narcissist Karen read who almost killed a man and then let him freeze to death. Nothing else disturbs me in this case. Only killing an innocent man and now she smiles about it. Monster.
"All roads"? You mean the shoe that was found or the "facts" that Jen McCabe and Brian Albert told him?@@stevenprice6957
Did anyone else notice whenever Proctor said "absolutely not" versus a simple "no". It was very telling.
That’s what the body language experts say!!!
Reminds me of Wendy Adelson and her ABSOLUTELY NOT!
Yes Jenni agree. Whenever he says that he is LYING to the Jury and people present and WATCHING ON LIVE MEDIA
Great comment by you.
That's what alot of the "witnesses" have said. I never want to hear that again after this trial .
Also the rapid blinking
Yes, he has 2 tells which I've noticed. The one you mention, and the drinking of water. He never needs to drink when the questions are comfortable.
My husband has a colostomy and I’m appalled that they were making fun of her condition.
I didn’t know she had a colonoscopy, I heard medical issues I never heard what was said until now. Highly offensive from a Mass.Trooper, just sickening.
So sorry🥲
Im appalled too! I'm still mad about his comments about Karen
Yes Brandi, absolutely disgusting!!🤮
He is such a vile ignorant man. Who could possibly choose to associate with let alone employ this guy. He brings shame to law enforcement, the state of Massachusetts and his family.
Getting drunk and driving around with an Albert who lost his gun and badge in the squad because they were SO DRUNK together....but he said earlier they were not acquainted.
💯💯💯💯
WOW THATS BAD A LITTLE KID COULD OF FOUND HIS GUN THEY ALL NEED TO GO FOR SURE AND DRIVING DRUCK COME ON
@@hopingforanswers7376why did you put a bunch of those one hundred emoticons as you’re comment?
“One hundred one hundred one hundred one hundred one hundred one hundred” is what you said. What does that supposed to mean?
@@OneHunnitNoCapStannitOnBidnisz maybe..'yes, yes, yes, yes!' 100% YESSSS!
@ginosko_ it's agreeing, like a 100%
Wow! The more I listen to this case the more I feel this poor woman is innocent and being plotted to take the fall for a crime she did not commit. Something happened to that man but by the people in that house and they are all lying. And if they can lie like this then I'm concerned for all the people they have arrested over the years. They need to do a eternal investigation into whats going on at that police department.
You just took the words right out of my mouth, Thank you
Karen is a killer. Don’t ever say poor Karen. Imagine the family reading that comment
Proctor needs to get fired. I would never trust him. Not even from the desk
Cronyism and nepotism
If Karen Read gets away with murder, this guy should be embarrassed and ashamed of his prosecutorial career.
If Karen Read gets away with murder, this guy should be embarrassed and ashamed of his prosecutorial career.
How does this crack pot still have a job???
@@mistrjt9213well he better prepare to then because this case is over already.
Defense does not need
to prove Proctor framed KR, they are proving reasonable doubt.
And reasonable doubt, we have plenty of.
True, but remember the feds are watching this trial...I'm looking forward to THAT investigation and what transpires 😊😉
They literally said in opening statements that Karen was FRAMED. They have yet to prove that. Also, Alan Jackson did nothing to prove/show that Proctor planted tail light pieces. Focused solely on Proctors texts. Oooof.
@@LaurieDean-wy3xbnothing has transpired. Otherwise, we wouldn’t be here right now. Yikes people. Use your brain.
I had at LEAST 6 red solo cups full of reasonable doubt. This testimony made them overflow.
This case is over. Not guilty. It's ridiculous that they never even knocked on the door of the cops house where a cop was found injured on his front lawn. Not Guilty.
@@udhehfhehcuw9169😂🤓🤡🤡
@@udhehfhehcuw9169You mean the solo cup evidence in the shopping bag, or the evidence found using the leaf blower from some dude's garage after we see on video one of the investigators fingerings some of it in the snow or the chopped up video played in mirror image to the jury without any mention from witness or prosecutor that the video was flipped and missing large amounts of time, or the fact that two people in law enforcement connected to the victim the night of his death completely destroyed their phones of any digital evidence to diwtance themselves from Officer okeefe, or the fact that an officer not associated with Canton Pd or MSP contradicted the condition of Karen reeds rear right tail light?
@@udhehfhehcuw9169what evidence? Blood test under her truck? Wasn’t there. A taillight would not bust apart it 47 peices on a body. What evidence?
@@udhehfhehcuw9169 You know damn well what I mean. The absolute cuckup of evidence collection and lack of chain of evidence and a lead investigators with an ax to grind.
@@udhehfhehcuw9169Proctor could have planted evidence....possibly!! There is reasonable doubt...
What they never expect is that Karen Read will fight back like she is doing it. The corrupted police department say " another citizen more"
I agree. They never expected this. They were so used to getting away with whatever it was They have done in the past. This threw them for a loop
This makes so much more sense now
All evidence points to her.
I agree. I think they did a very bad job of investigating John O'keefes murder. But I think she's guilty. She said it herself and she was pretty drunk when she was dropping him off.
@@sunshine22723the only thing that the evidence doesn’t point to is to a car accident. How the lesion on the back of his head? How come there is no other i jury below the neck?
When the verdict comes back not Guilty, if I was Karen Reed I would file a civil suit & get Trooper Proctor & the rest of them all who were involved. All that she went through She should be compensated, Can't even imagine all the stress & money she paid to fight for her innocence. This investigation was corrupt from the start & lead Investigator Trooper Proctor should of been fired immediately for all those texts & name calling Proctor made, To a person he don't even know, & Proctor didn't even go inside the house that should of been a part of the investigation. Proctor is married but joking with his fellow partners in making comments that were clearly inappropriate about Karen Reed. All of them on the investigation should be fired & the albert & McCabe should all be charged for conspiracy of a cover up. Karen Reed is not a whack Job, She fought for her innocence
Pay back time, the lies cover up putting her threw emotional duress, due yhem
Agreed!
Proctor needs to be in Jail!
For what ?
what for, naughty words?
@@stevenprice6957 planting evidence. perjury.
Sure do
@@kerrygold6494.. it’s not the words alone, it’s why he said those words.. he is covering up for his friends..
This pathetic excuse for a police officer is not fit to polish Karen read's shoes. What an absolute disgrace. He's not going to be able to get a job collecting shopping carts in a supermarket
I hope not, he is pathic
The video of Karen Read backing out of the drive, hitting John's car was what did it for me. NOT because his car moved, but because of the BRIGHT RED glow of when she hit her brakes! Snow or no snow, a missing taillight cover would show a bright white beam. Corruption is evident, in my opinion.
Ya, no. She didn't hit JO SUV. The video shows that it was broken if you look closely. There was no opportunity for Proctor to run over to JO house after he's dead, smash the light, in the garage pick up all the pieces, go back to the scene, plant the evidence under the snow. You can't explain how that's possible after conspiring with everyone else to frame RK.
@smacdonald5142 well after watching today's testimony, I'm going to be curious as to how that taillight transfered 3 and 4 other male DNA unknowns on John's bloody clothes 🤔
Really with her car? Makes no sense. My lexus will alert mt if something is like 10 feet away from me. Her car data will tell that. Where is the photo of that smashed light. And where is the information from the black box
Excellent point. Wouldn't the vehicle's computer reveal whether an object was hit? My Acadia Denali keeps track of all sorts of driving details.
Exactly, why didn’t they photograph the damage to the car before they towed it?
We should hear this soon. They have the information from the Lexus
@@ritaagopian4150 Exactly. Every single tow truck driver does that nowadays before towing. Especially when its considered evidence for a murder.
The sensors will go crazy and the car will automatically engage the breaks, well this feature is in my wifes VW Polo so i'm sure this Lexus would be a lot more sophisticated which makes it even more difficult to kill someone by reversing over them. At the very least u will be able to injure but a grown ass Policeman that has all the skills to ensure his safety, come-on!!!!!! Smell like a set up!!!
If Proctor is found to have tampered with the case and evidence to target Karen Read, he should be held liable for ALL court costs, to include both the defense’s and prosecution’s legal fees.
Additionally he should be forced to pay back EVERY dollar collected as a State Trooper from the State of Massachusetts from Jan 29, 2022.
If he can’t afford it, seize his assets.
He won’t be held liable in that court situation. He’s probably probably sleeping with a judge.
I agree 1,000 percent! Especially Karen Reed. Her attorney fees must be enormous!
He should be in prison!
FBI is going to get him, as soon as this case wraps.
That would need the prosecution to have basic human decency and they don’t
I have NEVER seen a Corrupt Cop get totally annihilated by an Attorney like this 💋💋💋
and its the Lawyer that u absolutely hate...talk about bitter pill...
@clints2148 Genety is the Lawyer that Procter hates ... Jackson is the Lawyer who is cross examining him
He’s screwed!
@@New_Zealand_1 lol my bad thanks for setting me straight NZ!
@clints2148
Don't be apologizing to me ... becos I managed to spell Yenneti's name wrong !!! 😂😂😂
Please stop bringing Kevin on
Kevin gives me the ick 🤮
Yellow Cottage CHEESE
He's not too bright
@shailaja6788 Yep.. A real PEANUT
Even if he wants to have different opinions, Kevin isn’t it
IF Karen Read was guilty, these investigators did a fantastic job of freeing her by incompetence, tunnel vision, and a completely biased investigation. Proctor's behavior is disgusting! And thanking the jury was proof that he is oblivious to his impact! I was embarrassed FOR him! I foresee many new appeals in criminal cases in Massachusetts, as well there should be !
Yes how many people sitting in jail are innocent just because Proctor didn't like them or because he made his determination seconds after he was on the scene of a crime!!!!
Is Proctor a sociopath? He has no remorse or shame over anything he did. And lied about Yanetti bothering his sister at school, when Yanetti was near by in a parking lot to talk to another witness.
Yes, absolutely a psychopath
Wow.
He is just mad because he was caught.
Lucky the plow driver will clear that up for the defence. That’s who Yannetti and Karen’s hired detective were meeting in the parking lot to get a tour of the route he plowed that night.
He’s a pos. But… he may have gotten the wrong information from his seemingly also disturbed sister. No doubt he is capable of spinning yarns, but they can’t prove intent because she could very well have told him that info. Disgusting representation to the amazing men and women in blue. But it’s a well-known fact that the good old boy system is still alive and well in New England
Proctor for Prison 2024
I didn’t know you could go to prison for bad words said in texts to friends ?? When was this law brought in? I know you can go to jail for killing a man. Or you should.
Framing someone for murder yeah they should go to jail.. it's not about bad words.. have you been watching this case or are you a Mc Albert?
Karen first
@@stevenprice6957If you’re a police officer and you’re acting corrupt in your police investigations, yes you need to be fired and charged especially if you’re lying or skewing the truth in said investigations. It can ruin lives.
Proctor planted the evidence!! This man is evil & there's no telling how many men & women he's put behind bars. He is sickening & a disgrace .
How could he plant the evidence without a Time Machine ? Are you saying the search team are in on it too are you ?
Procor belongs in prison
Proctor is most hated. I'm still mad at him
What about Karen read not having an ass on her like he said. Does how hot she is play a part in whether she gets off or not ?
What about Karen read not having an ass on her like he said. Does how hot she is play a part in whether she gets off or not ?
For what ? Bad words 😂
Is that worse than killing is it ?
The evidence was planted, and Proctor needs to be fired.
Read doesn't have the facts and evidence on her side.
@@sunshine22723exactly there's NO facts or EVIDENCE against her or anywhere near her side
Hogwash.
Stevie and Sunshine McDimbutts, a couple trolls, pay them no attention. They haven't had their frozen donuts.
exactly!
"Not completely damaged it was cracked and a piece was missing and not completely damaged. Nicholas Barros on what he observed of the SUV right taillight at the Reads Dighton residence."
Proctor also said "a piece" and then quickly said "pieces"
Agree!!
I thought they admitted to busting the taillight when removing it hence where all of the pieces actually came from
Proctor, The Narcissist truly believes he's trustworthy and that we totally believe his every single word. He's a douche, deserves to be exposed, and his career in ANY capacity of law enforcement should be terminated indefinitely.
This fawking bias judge should be charged for not recusing herself and for corruption. The jury isn't stupid nor ignorant. They're another Karen Read, another you, another me. They must acquit.
There’s one narcissist in that room. It’s the killer that smiles away on front of the victims family. It’s the one that spin doctors the media. She’s pathetic
@@stevenprice6957 😭🤣😭🤣😭 Funniest joke ever
Tell your friends to plan a going away party because the ACTUAL killers are going away@@stevenprice6957
@@stevenprice6957 actually, Dr. Ramani, a behavioral psychologist stated that even though only 1 to 5 % of narcissists have been diagnosed as such .... by manner of what this disorder is, the person with it, doesn't see it. They refuse accountability, have little to no empathy, entitlement, etc ... Most people will live and die without an official diagnosis because they don't have a rock bottom. Even when someone calls them out, they find a way to deflect or gas light, to play victim. Dr. Ramani made a bold statement that she feels it's more like every one in six people that would be high on the spectrum (and she gave one example: domestic abuse. Someone capable of domestic abuse IS a narcissist. This person began charismatic, charming, romantic, loving ... and then became controlling and abusive. Domestic abuse, alone, encompasses a high percentage of people and no, domestic abusers aren't going into therapy to be confirmed as narcissists). So I doubt it's only one person in that entire room. But one thing we know about narcissism ... helping fields like police, medical, fire departments, etc ... attract them. A clean image matters to them ... They love accolades and validation.
I don't know if Karen did, or didn't, run over John. I think it's plausible that an accident may have occurred. People were drinking, having a great time. But what the videos from the bar that night show ... is a lot of affection between John & Karen. The problem is, Proctor and his cronies were so focused on proving murder ... and because of that, John O'Keefe will never have real justice. It's their fault if no one is convicted. The entire case is a clown show. But honestly, I think Proctor's texts are the nail in the coffin of this case.
@@chilenitaprotrumpyou think it’s funny like Karen do you ? Killing a cop is ok in your world? Is that what you are saying ?
It would be such a shame if the real killers walk free...
Arrogant ‘Cover up’ Cop !! Make me so angry. I have now switched Sides ….Thank god she is able to fight this!! Worth every cent
Turtleboy interviewed Yanetti after court today regarding Proctor's allegation on the stand. Proctor lied again.
Need evidence to search the Albert’s home. How about the dead guy was seen drinking at a bar with the home owner. How about that. This trial is a disaster for the state.
They didn’t search the house even AFTER they knew John was invited over for drinks. It hey disregard the basement floor that was replaced and a source of generational wealth sold at a loss.Let’s all trust the guy that called Karen every dirty word in the book.
Trooper Barros testified that the taillight was cracked but not completely broken when they were putting it on the tow truck.
Trooper Proctor also mentioned that Colin Albert was there different times, first he said Colin Albert wasn’t there when the party/ gathering was happening then he said Colin got there after so it wasnt raising questions in his mind he didn’t find it important ???? 🤔🤨
Is this Kevin guy serious? He seems desperate to support the prosecution.
He wants relevance and to appear on court tv. He’d never be on there if he wasn’t a stooge for MSP and the McAberts. It’s gross the crap he says.
He is desperate
@@sethfroman7044 Totally agree!!!
he is an attention seeker
He has a pathetic UA-cam channel and he knows he will lose his 2k audience if he admits it.
How about the inverted video from the prosecutor, these cops are crooked
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Trooper Proctor 1000% committed a Brady Violation when he deleted the Ring video at 12:41am.
1000% Read should be acquitted.
He actually tried to get the ring footage. Karen deleted it and we know why
Wait…what? I’m so sorry I’m late to this, obsessed now! There was Ring video at the Alberts?? 🤯
@@50LOVESIT The Ring video was from Officer John O'Keefe's residence.
Trooper Michael Proctor had access to O'Keefe's Ring account.
During the trial so far, it was discovered that another investigator notated the 12:41am video of Karen Read arriving back at O'Keefe's home, but according to Trooper Proctor, there was no video at 12:41am.
In my opinion, he deleted the video because it exonerates Karen Read.
Brady Violation
@@stevenprice6957 He didn't "try".
He had full access to Officer O'Keefe's Ring account.
No one said Karen Read had full access to O'Keefe's Ring account.
Also, TROOPER PROCTOR HAD KAREN READ'S PHONE AND PUT IT ON AIRPLANE MODE SO THAT SHE COULD NOT ACCESS ANY OF HER ACCOUNTS.
Aren’t they supposed to photograph the car that they confiscated
Yes, they are, but that would be proof Karen didn’t hit him.
But that would require to be documented and they didn’t want anyone to have a photo of the intact taillight. I wonder why Karen never took a picture either. And all the videos that would show that tail light are missing
@@francescawilliams8177Probably because she had no reason to believe she was gonna be framed. How was she supposed to know?
@@francescawilliams8177because she was in complete anxiety and panic mode, immediately followed by immense grief. It was the furthest thing from her mind.
Procter & Albert were working on a Cold Case together"
... yea, a cold case of beer
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...these officers were so drunk they lost their shield and badge, and driving drunk in the police cruiser. !
If that is another factor besides his comments and bias , it best be included in his firing...he used his work vehicle to go bar hopping....Proctor is disgusting!!
@mickymitts3031 yes he testified to it today, send an email asking if he left his gun and badge in the car...
🤣🤣🤣🤣 EXACTLY
@@SHADOWBLACKs650 WOW! he should be held accountable
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7:46 Proctor started a lie, but then realized it was so unbelievable, that he switch mid-sentence to say the truth. What else is he lying about?
What a 💩 show this was. Proctor and Lally are the most evil besides the ones who actually murdered this poor police officer and frame it. Absolutely a barf fest……SHAME ON ALL OF YOU!
Someone really needs to investigate this judge. She’s biased and uninterested in the truth. I guarantee innocents are imprisoned due to her lack of professionalism and integrity.
THIS CASE IS OVER ! SOMEBODY TELL VINNIE !
And stop getting the "Yellow Cottage" on he's the one with tunnel vision!!!
I can’t stand that guy
They framed her 💯💯💯💯💯💯
I think yellow cottage tales is watching a different trial altogether. I don’t know why court tv gives him a platform
He’s a sad depressed individual looking for attention, living in parent’s basement. Vinnie needs to stop giving him air time, it’s embarrassing.
well they need the other side, even the ridiculous one.. do you want every guest parroting the same opinion? btw i think karen should get Not guilty!
@@slanigrad Yeah, TV shows yearn for debates to increase views. It's part of the show.
O'Keefes mother sitting there smirking and laughing is incredibly tacky and classless 🙄😳 NOT a good look at all
Grief can make people act odd
Are you serious ? You are talking about the mother of the victim who’s dead. Why don’t you focus on the smiling assassin Karen read.
@@stevenprice6957 Yes that's EXACTLY who I'm talking about....and why don't YOUfocus on going outside and touch grass....maybe getting some meds 🙄
Certainly, they haven't endorced their son John's Killers! Maybe they are very simple people that don't want to believe their son could belong to a group of cops who could be so vile! Folks, open your minds up. Your son was killed by other cops and their wives and probably a 20 yr old nephew!
why was brian higgins, a prime suspect in this murder, allowed in the sally port near read's vehicle?
As a fellow police officer, why No one came out of that house to check what was going on.on their front lawn he was a fellow officer and they knew he was there.
Hey Kevin you didn’t mention all the minutes missing from the video or the dighton trooper who has no skin in this game say there was only a piece missing in the tail light at her fathers place. The fact that that they had the ring camera from John’s house where Karen came home, it was in the notes then it disappeared after it hit proctors hands. You don’t mention any of that!!!
That doesn’t get them ratings.
He has such a difficult position to defend that he has chosen to ignore evidence, and his personal evidence is incredulity. His whole argument is "if this is a frame job, it would mean that a large number of corrupt people, part of a corrupt organization, are capable of lying to protect themselves". Gee! I'm flabbergasted at such a thing!
@@amacuroa large group of People yucked it up at Karen’s expense in the text messages. So it’s not really a stretch.
I mean really? What a disgusting detective. Crooked as can be along with all his little friends. Karma
When she is found not guilty Karen needs to be taking legal action against law enforcement.
What an absolutely disgraceful person and an embarrassing day for police.
Kevin, "indisputably" is INCORRECT.
You are not paying attention to the facts.
"Hi Kevin, do you still think Karen read is guilty"
"100% Vinnie ,, I think she is also guilty of making trooper Proctor become corrupt , she is so guilty it threw trooper proctor off his normal exemplary duty, she's going to jail vinnie"
Haha perfect!
There are many like Kevin when it comes down to law enforcement even if Proctor would confess to planting evidence Kevin would be heartbroken and it still would be hard for him to believe that so many are involved in a cover up.
You are ridiculing Kevin. I think he is the kind of person who has the ability to say he is wrong if the evidence convinces him. He hasn't been convinced yet.
He has a lot of common sense. 👍👍
Kevin is the type of juror the prosecution hopes for - that when they pretend to be all official by putting on their little gloves and holding up "evidence" in court that it means they actually have a case 😂
Love your comment 😂
This man is so vile he shouldn't be a cop. Why would Julie Albert want to get Proctor a gift? Because he kept Colin's name out of it? Proctor covered for Colin and Brian Albert. Did they kill him and did Chloe scratch & bite JO arm as he tried to fend Chloe off. Why did it take so long to interview all those involved and why no recordings? Collection of evidence in solo cups and then worst of all the text message. If I were on this jury I would find Karen Read NOT Guilty. The CW hasn't proven KR was involved. I have a friend whose grandchild is mentally challenged. We don't call him retarded that is so offensive, so very offensive. We all know someone who has MS or has Crohn's Disease. Proctor should be FIRED.
tunnel vision, plus the hard evidence and interviews would not fit his narrative, he didnt look coz he knew what he would find...Didnt even go inside the house? Lazy Lizzard
I was stunned when he said they don’t record interviews on a case. WTF
Why’s he vile cause he don’t think she got a booty on her?
SHAME ON YOU JEN McCABE👎😢💯
Imagine how many times he has done shady things if he is this blatant and careless about it all. He thought he was untouchable 😡
Talk about tunnel vision, Kevin has the biggest sets of horse blinders I've ever seen!!
Disgrace to every State Trooper who has worn the uniform with honor. The MSP is full of honest decent men and women. Proctor needs to be fired without any retirement benefits. He will be allowed to retire and our tax dollars will be spent so he can live comfortably absolute travesty of justice. He is dirty and a disgrace.
lol he wrote the wrong time on the affidavits and calls it a typo. wow wow. 6 times that typos were repeated.
Good to know how women are talked about amongst males who supposed to serve and protect us.
How many instances of “missing video “ are we supposed to accept? There are now FOUR instances where we could see Karen’s backlight completely in tact or slightly cracked and all 4 videos are “missing”. She is innocent.
It's definitely a cover up, the amount of people who have been on the stand and lied is terrible, shame on them.
Aside from the absolutely disgusting and unacceptable way that the lead investigator proctor (who clearly had an agenda from early on) conducted himself there are so many holes in the prosections case that clearly this jury will have more than ample reasonable doubt.
Vinnie- why dont you point out these key facts - 1)John Okeefe did not have ANY injuries to his body that are consistent with being struck with a vehicle
2)no one saw a 6 foot body on that tiny lawn after KR left
3) the material that the taillight is made of is extremely difficult to shatter in the 47 pieces by hitting a human by the vehicle going backwards and that are claimed to have been found AFTER the SUV had been taken into custody
4) at the time of the initial investigation when there was light snow cover not ONE single taillight piece was found even though officers had a leaf blower and searched the area
5) no one can explain why there are so many minutes missing at a key time in the sallyport when it could have been a perfect opportunity for proctor to remove pieces of taillight
6)WHY would they have brought the lexus SUV to a sallyport almost an hour away to a police department that had recused themselves when there were facilities so much closer to where they picked up the vehicle ??
7) why is the video of KR returning to johns home at 12:41 missing ???
8) why is the video from the library missing at the key time that KR drove past there?
9) why did Jen Mccabe do a google search at 2:20 am in the morning "hos long to die in the cold?" And then delete it? Why do other police investigations rely on celebrite data such as this on every other investigation and now suddenly celbrite is wrong ?
I could go on and on and on with the MASSIVE holes in this investgation however even wuth just a few of these this trial should NEVER have happened and some of those involved including Proctor and Higgins have perjured themselves so badly that i cannot imagine that in the federal investgation they wont be charged with something.
His family laughing back there as he reads the texts is gross
Which is his family .
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I saw that too and was disgusted. But it only shows what garbage people they are to laugh at someone’s dire health issues
Officer Okeefe was slammed in the face by his glass, the dog attacked- John lost balance, fell and fractured skull. I don't think anyone wanted to kill him, that was an undesired outcome but there was a fight, so there goes the coverup
Why did Jen Google Hos long to die in cold?
Exactly…
And they were all drunk and not thinking clearly. Why is everyone so hyper focused on a back tail light and not John’s injuries.
because Karen asked him too. The app was already open. That will be shown.
@@stevenprice6957 that’s already been debunked. And just ignore the cellphone and the SIM card being destroyed. Karen is innocent.
If he's letting his emotions get the best of him, he can't lead a fair investigation. He obviously didn't take any measures to counteract or take his bias into consideration. If he actually did not think Brian Albert had anything to do with the death, why wouldn't he take actions to rule him out? Why wouldn't he go into the home and show there's no evidence inside the home? The very best case scenario for Procter is a bad case of tunnel vision and he decided to 'help' the evidence, as opposed to an active cover up.
Please please stop bringing Kevin on!!!! Nobody wants to hear his opinion !!!!
The "insider" Kevin in the blue shirt looks like The Iceman Richard Kuklinski.
How the hell is he still assigned onto the case? How ?!?
My jaw nearly dropped when I heard he’s still the one making decisions in regards to the case and Karen Read’s life and freedom. HOW
Yannetti talked to about why he was at the school. He didn’t know Courtney worked there and no one told him he couldn’t be there. Proctor committed perjury and that’s why he had that reaction. He went there to meet up with Lucky because that’s where he asked him to meet him. He went to talk to him and prepare him with his investigator bc he will testify if not from the prosecution he will testify under the defense. He wanted Lucky to show him his route when he plows the streets.
Yenetti didn’t even know it was his sister’s school. It’s where the tow truck driver wanted to meet him!
Let's see if she takes the stand..she keeps saying she doesn't know. If you had nothing to hide then you will
Man I hope a juror agrees to an interview after the trial will be so interesting
Still Waters pisses me off right now that he can't tell the truth of the matter because he's a cop protecting another cop
Yes exactly
Group chat quote "The guy didnt come inside, okay?"
What I love of this show is that I can have a sneak peek of the jurors expression 😆 😊
I’m glad the Jury can see through the negligent judge.
. How did he get knowledge of her illnesses? 16 hrs into hisso-calledd investigatio, he made up his mind that Karen did it. 3 witnesses mccabes and 1 Albert. Owe and then the EMT. Really dude
I think the murderers destroyed their phones... offer immunity to whoever breaks first and turns states evidence...
Vinnie, I love and appreciate the way you cover your cases. You and "Lawyer You Know" are the best out there with objectivity and easy to understand interpretation! Thank you for what you do!!
Sir, your SISTER should have minded her own business
Proctor was supposed to help JOHN find justice. He failed. He failed miserably.
Dear John,
I’m so sorry. Lots of people see you even tho the people investigating your murder didn’t.
Agree with nick… abundant reasonable doubt !!!!! Acquit
If his wife hasn’t left him yet, it’s because she’s afraid of what he’ll do to her if she does.
100%
She's been a loud and proud supporter. Probably likes the money bc it can't be the personality.
@@RichardZabielski-ql9ss yea, probably money then. Cops tell themselves they work hard. They don’t. They work *long* because they get insane over time pay. And during overtime, they get to be away from the wives and kids they secretly hate and talk about women suspects they want to hate-f*ck.
Do Massachusetts lawyers not have to actually state the KIND or type of “objection” they’re making-they just yell out ‘objection’?
This biased judge didn’t want them to explain the objection in front of the jury.. she also has no idea what overruled means
To get a search warrant you need evidence he was in the house, ... how do you prove he was not in the house ? ... going on heresay? ... eat about he was invited to be there ? ... how do you know he wasn't in the house? ... heresay???
PROCTOR RUINED his own reputation period! He’s disgusting
I don't know if I should google " leaking balloon knot"...
His character is very telling about evidence planting 😮
May God keep you strong Karen in your fight against disgusting corrupt Police sadly lacking in morals and integrity. Unbelievable 😮😮😮😮😮
Kevin... Karen doesn't have to prove ish because the prosecution holds the burden so you obviously don't know anything about what you're talking about. Karen doesn't have to prove anything and can have as many theories as they want. Weak!
How many jurors needs to vote for a conviction?
@@francescawilliams8177all 12
The professional comments of the retired detective from Hawaii seem to all align with his past police affiliations backing the police.
I can’t listen to Kevin
So if JO was laying on the front lawn in a less affluent area, where the occupants were not police..... would this case had been dealt with in the same way?? 🤔
It is VERY suspect that Proctor is the one who found multiple pieces during the week after the body being found. "he happened to be driving by and happened to see (from his car) pieces of tail light. Seriously!!!!
The only question these people answered honestly over the last 23 days is “ what if any sort of precipitation was there that night”
Also,,,if she was mad at him,,, thats the LAST PLACE SHE WOULD WANT TO HARM HI!!!!!! PERIOD!!!! RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIS COP BUDDIES HOME!!?????!!! YEAH, SHES GONNA DO IT THERE!! GMAFB!!!🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
She was drunk...so they never should have charged her with murder
When u are drunk and angry you dont think logically
Exactly
A lot of cops when they think x person did it they don’t look at other possibilities. I have seen so many documentaries about this. Very scary that’s why I always tell my family never talk to cops always ask for a lawyer
Nick is 1000% right. Why no picture of Karen's taillight from Dighton? How do we know the timestamps are even authentic at the sallyport? They could have cracked off a large piece + headed straight to 34 Fairview.
Nick is dumb not a bright guy lol
How do you explain the large piece of taillight missing at 8.42am from the wellness check footage. That footage showing a large piece missing is approximately nine hours before the SUV ever got to the Sally port. That wellness check footage is before Proctor ever got involved.
@@kerrygold6494he can’t and nobody can. Yet they believe she was framed. Americans have lost their brains
@@kerrygold6494 No video exists, because no large piece was missing. Nice try though. The Dighton cop even sad it had a crack + a SMALL piece was missing.
@@stevenprice6957 Explain a 6000lb vehicle that hits a man at 24mph yet he has zero injuries to his torso, hips or legs?
Folks like Proctor are out there serving and protecting America. Thoughts?
Very scary
When I started watching this trial a few weeks ago I thought she was just overcharged but did it. Today I‘m convinced she is innocent - and this is still the state’s case …