4 Types of Shower Valve Assembly Installations
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- Опубліковано 11 чер 2018
- Regardless of skill level there are different ways to do everything, shower plumbing is no different. That being said there are options and Jeff explores DIY methods to do your own plumbing. Here are 4 different types of shower valve assembly installations.
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Don’t stop making videos. I’m watching all of them.
No problem, we have committed to at least another 5 years!
Your videos are excellent and you have a "born teacher" way of explaining things. I will try and complete my master bath reno from jacuzzi/tub combo to walk in shower (rain head and hand held combo). Did the demo work last week and have been learning from your videos since. Feel brave enough now to give it a go. Thanks so much.
I really appreciate your video's! You really make it look so easy. I can't afford a plumber, so after watching your video I think I can do it myself . You explained it all so well in detail thank you so much!
Just a suggestion for people planning to teach themselves to sweat any pipes at home - invest in one of those small flame proof or fire proof protective cloth/mat they sell in Home Depot in the plumbing section, (for sweating pipe) and keep a fire extinguisher nearby.. you might amaze yourself how easy 2x4’s that have spent 40 years drying - or cobwebs covered in sawdust (if you’ve been working in the house) might catch on fire once you start holding a torch to them.. (ask me how i know ) . at the very least it’ll stop burn marks on the wood with joints really close to the wall.. and buy some clear safety glasses.. melting solder and eyes dont exactly like each other. Even some thin latex gloves will give you minimal protection too. I had to learn from someone trying to explain how to do it on the phone - so you guys have it much easier with videos now.. here’s a tip - you’re trying to gradually HEAT the inside of the fittings - not burn them. If you’re pipes are turning black - its too much heat too fast. You need to pull the flame further away. Just like cooking a steak, you’ll burn the outside before the inside cooks.. Propane (blue tank) takes longer to heat fittings then map gas (yellow tanks) so you need to allow extra time to heat before you apply solder. With butane anyway - you dont want the hottest part of the flame touching the fittings. You want the very tip of the flame to slowly ‘heat’ things up instead of burning the pipe. Just count in your head how long it takes - and after a couple you’ll know how long to keep the torch on the joint before you can apply solder. Brass fittings take much longer cause they’re thicker. I think i use to count to about 30 with the brass before applying solder, maybe 10 or 15 with regular copper joints. Clean and flux EVERYTHING before trying to solder joints. Another tip - you can assemble almost everything with freshly cleaned and fluxed joints - this way you’ll know if something doesn’t fit right before you solder stuff. Plus - with everything prepped and assembled, you can solder it all at once, instead of constantly picking up the torch and putting it down. You also dont really need to wipe joints after you solder them, all thats doing it making it look better, so dont go crazy trying to make it look pretty. Personally - I’d never use that plastic shit or quick connects behind my (especially) shower wall - but I’m no expert so what do i know other than theres house’s with 100 year old copper pipes still working.. leaks seem to develop in joints - and its from movement over years breaking the joint free and forming a leak. You have all those shower parts anchored properly - it ain’t gonna move, and it ain’t gonna leak. Contractors like the plastic stuff cause it cheaper, faster, and no thought or skill involved. Not cause its “better”. If they were better, they wouldn’t have so much ‘warranty work’ now would they???
man you make the best videos. lucky kids to have a dad like you teaching the trades and passing it on. nice work! and actually showing people they can do it themselves. Thanks for the video!
Thanks for that. we appreciate the love. Cheers!
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY thank you very much for such a good videos. What are the 2 pipes coming out of the valve, and going up about 18 inches?
@@BelleRiverHeating Could you please give me more details ? If i am putting a thermostatic valve, you would put them at both inlet ? It's good for...ever ? I mean... the wall will be close. Yes i do have an access door but still not easy to replace if defect...
Thank you for the step by step instructions. I am going to attempt to upgrade my shower plumbing etc. I am certain that I can do it myself now. Much appreciated
Excellent video. It gave me the confidence to do the plumbing for my bath renovation on my own. The only thing I wish you would dive into is how to measure the depth of the support cross-beams. I get the impression that's somewhat important.
You are THE BEST!! Did the Copper to PEX for my 1950 Rental. Saved 400$ (plumber price.) Gladly pay my 5$ a month
Great video. I'm always afraid to it that way and I windup cutting the pipes and then connecting them with couplings. But gonna try it this way from now on. Thanks for the great video.
I would do the same as you, not confident with old soldered joints.
And that's exactly the way to do it Bravo
Thank you for your VERY helpful videos. We had a copper pipe shear off as we removed a valve and its darn hard to get a plumber over the weekend. First we learned enough to remove the old valve and installed shark bites. As we were still struggling to get a plumber we learned to solder and did it oursleves. We did discover soldering takes a bit of practice with heating all around the joint helping us. We got there in the end. Thanks! Impossible without excellent videos from you and others.
The very best DIY on UA-cam. Thank you!
Great video. I learned a lot about sweating copper and using PEX even though I've done quite a bit of copper. Thanks!
22:23 Use the emory cloth to sand the copper pipe clean BEFORE cutting the pipe, it's a lot easier with the pipe being held in place.
Awesome footage Jeff! Thanks! Just one detail to add: It is always worth to cleat the burr after using pipe cutter on copper tube. If left in place, turbulence occurs around the burr, which in turn causing deep pits.
thanks!
What I like from him is he does do most things by himself full package of skills.
Man - first time home-owner as of about 10 days ago. Bought something that needs a little bit of love, as a grew up with a father who would walk me through steps on projects just like you are now. PVC was the extent of my plumbing experience, but someone converted the house to PEX. I need to fix a shower faucet that wouldn't turn off, tried to go cheap and get replacement parts, no luck. Bought a new fixture and valve as I have access to the backside of the shower wall, nothing a piece of drywall, mud and paint can't fix. I tore the galvanize pipe out and saw the build up inside that galvanized in notorious for. Decided I'm going to continue with PEX and do this right - if I do a bigger reno later, it'll pay off. Anyways, thanks so much for the most thorough tutorial I have seen on UA-cam. Saying things like "go backwards until you feel it sit right..." at 41:48, what a tip! I'm a self proclaimed (not very good) handyman and I instinctively do that all the time, being able to narrate instinctual things is the sign of a great teacher! I legit typed up notes while watching this LOL!
Watching this video gave me a reason to call my Dad and share a memory and gratitude to him for showing me things I wasn't always interested in - Thanks for that! Subscribed, liked, can't wait to use this channel for all my projects. If all your videos are like this, I will quickly make this channel the first one I have 'Joined'.
Hi there. I do most of my handyman work around my house and neighbors but not much plumbing repairs because of the soldering but now you’ve made it very easy with all the different tips. When I first saw the 1:10 minute long video I was like no way too long but after watching the first few minutes I got hooked like a shark bite clamp. Awesome the way you talk through the entire video and explain in detail the dos and don’ts. Keep it up. I just had to subscribe because you made me want to learned more of the plumbing skills. Thank you for sharing your videos and your thoughts.
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Great video ! I have been in commercial construction / property management for 25 plus years and I continue to learn new things after watching your presentations. You are easy to follow and very informative. I have recently started to renovate my new retirement home in Austin , Texas and you are a top shelf daily resource. My hat goes off to my Northern neighbor. Oh it is a great to see that you are teaching your son skills that will serve him a life time. You are a good Dad!
Thanks Gene, we are really having fun doing this channel. And I love working with my kids. Cheers to Austin
Just a helpful tip for anyone sweating pipes. Place a cloth or towel down on the tub, especially if it's fiberglass. Molten solder dripping off the pipes can burn pits into the fiberglass.
And above all always use a heat shield between the joint being soldered and the area around the joint being soldered.
So keeps close joints from unsoldering.
Wet rag for joints you dont want to unsolder
@@nelsonechevarria7009 why worry about it as long as you stay away from the wood studs?
**get heat shields. they are worth their weight in gold
Love the PEX system and the adapters from copper to PEX makes life easy. I just wish that there were more valve styles available like there are in copper or brass. Great videos, thanks for the effort.
many manufacturers make pex ready valves, they just don't sell them at the major building stores yet! You need to go to a plumbing wholesaler supplier. They can help you out with options. Cheers!
Great video. I followed your directions for replacing a shower valve attached to copper pipes. Worked like a charm!
There are many ways to solder. This is a new way for me. I was taught to remove all fittings and all pipes and start fresh reusing new fittings . I like your video. Thank you.
Hi Jeff, I watched your videos for the first time great job with ideas I didn't think of! Here's one for you prior to cutting the copper you plan to solder at sand it first it's easier that way, then touch up if needed. I also enjoyed that you DID NOT have a monotone boring voice as others do. You were enjoyable to listen to. God bless!
Thanks, Jeff, you are an excellent teacher, because you make the soldering look easy (not scary).
Can I change my old Delta Monitor shower valve without changing the tub-faucet since it already corresponds with a separate drain stopper? Or should I get the complete universal kit and change out everything?
This dude is many things...hardcore, straight up, and hands on!
Thank You for your videos, you gave me the confidence to tackle a project on my own. Details are important and you do cover the necessary.
Thanks Wayne, I am sure you will be fine.
I hope your week is off to a fabulous start!
Thank you so much. I bought a Moen two handle replacing what was there. Personally I like two Handles better. Next time I will look for the valve body, maybe separate. I bought the whole kit valve body and faucet, spout and shower head. After watching this video I will now buy pex fittings for the valve body since it didn’t come that way.
Thank you! Working on my Courage to soldier. I love the way you explain how the heat sucks the soldier.
Thank you.
Hi Jeff! Thank you for your teaching, and just a personal request that will help all the cheapskates saving plumbing money thanks to you!, please include the code height on the valve, water supply for the tub, etc, etc.
Thanks again and keep up the good work!
I really appreciate your videos. With no major experience I've literally helped my sister renovate her basement into a one bedroom apartment with a fully functional bathroom and kitchen. Your videos are what made the project so successful, thanks allot for help. Btw thanks for introducing me to a hawk! Drywall taping and mudding have been a breeze. Keep the videos coming!
Glad to hear we were some help. Cheers Anthony, send us pics so we can show the job on instagram to help inspire others!
Your instructional videos have made me a more confident DIYer. I'm sure we all love the way you explain Everything. I don't think you leave anything out. Camera angles are excellent. Simply amazing! Just amazing Jeff. Thank you so much for all the great videos. There is simply no need for you tubers to look anywhere else! Cheers.
What an amazing video, step by step instructions. Thanks making it. It help with my project
What I love like about you your easy going, no tools fly across the room and using the French word. Nothing against the French.! Thanks
I’m a plumber and I work with pex. I couldn’t help but see that on the cold side 90 the you crimped you didn’t crimp the ring all the way and you left a belly on it. That for sure will be a leak with time. On the last diverter of this video. The 90 you crimped on the cold side, you didn’t push the pipe all the way in the fitting and when you crimped the ring, you left too much space so just by seeing that, the ring didn’t catch the bridges on the fitting and didn’t make a water right seal.
I like your videos, I do, a lot, and you helped me a lot with two wood projects. You have a nice voice that is not boring and a great personality, but you worried me for the first time sweating those pipes, haha!
MAPP (yellow can) gas is hotter so its good for that thick brass...but please, do not clean with flux! you hurt the copper in the long run and you also make all that "pretty silver" attach outside the connection, worse, you may be retrieving the one that was already inside back out. And, picture the liquid solder inside and drag it along the entire circumference, like the torch was a magnet. The solder will follow the heat. And, stop as soon as it runs in, don't let it bubble inside because it can leak.
Great demonstrations on methods. They mystery on crimps is solved.. I am as green in plumbing as possible and I look forward to replacing my bath/shower assembly. I will watch this video as I go.. and I will let you know how I did.. the great camera work .. will lead the way !!
I I always find myself coming back to this video. Awesome job , Jeff!
Fantastic!
i learned to sweat copper a couple years ago,but never knew to flux the joint after it accepts the solder.priceless info,thank you. i'm a sub and love your channel.i've learned enough to rebuild my master bath from scratch.it's very rewarding to do a $25,000 job for about $3000.thanks again.
EXCELLENT VIDEOS, THANK YOU! I had a great deal of trouble with the shark bite and flex hose that is used with it. My plumber installed a new water heater for me and used those for the connections. About 2 years later I started getting black flecks and soot out of my bathtub - grossed the wife out. I could not find a plumber in my area could figure it out (or maybe they were not interested and wanted to sell me a new water heater), all of them said it was probably flaking from the vent or was a bad water heater...So did some googling and found out that this soot can be caused by those connectors. I replaced them with copper and the black specks went right away! Apparently, over time the inside layer of those shark bite lines can get weak and break off cause the black flecks. I will stick with copper for now.
They are sealed by rubber o-ring, and all rubber breaks down over time. Something to think about when trying the crimp-on copper joints.
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Wow! Thank you so much for this. Now I know what’s gone wrong at my place too! I’m with your wife - totally gross.
Seen a couple of your videos and just subscribed....keep up the good work!!!! your explanations are beyond accurate and simple to understand. Thanks for sharing your experience!
Cheers Erik!
I love that you used the toilet to cool the pieces and your blacksmithing comment was awesome! Thanks for the video helped us gain confidence and do the project ourselves!
Cheers Amy, sometimes you need to use what is handy. Cheers!
The tips you help us learn is pretty helpful when I never did this kind of stuff before.😏👍😊
Slip a small piece of sheet metal behind the pipe while soldering. That way you don't char the studs behind the pipe. Great video, thanks for sharing.
But charring brings out the flavor..
Old license plate works great
@@Brian_P Yep - usually there's quite a few cars around you can take one from -- best not to take it from customer's car though :)
Great video, my only recommendation would be not use sheet rock screws to anchor the top joint going to the shower head. The first time someone changes a shower head the head of the sheetrock screws break off and now you have a new job.
Tip use the diameter of pipe
To measure the amount of solder mark
With a 90 degree bend.
1/2 in pipe use 1/2 of solder make bend to mark it. 3/4 bend at 3/4 in.
great video thanks for posting as i have yet to do this and i have a lot more confidence to preform the task at hand....many thanks charles
Sweating is the term for connecting copper pipe, sweating the joint ,wiping your joints after you sweat them prevents the copper turning green do to flux oils deposits. You do a great job!!!
This video was SO useful. Thank you!
Beautiful production and content. Takes the fear out of tackling a project like this and gives confidence to viewers.
Thanks Shane , we are here to help if you have questions along the way!
Thank you for the extremely helpful and informative video. Now I am certain that I want to use Pex in my shower value upgrade!
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Had fire at my old house needed to repair, replace elect, plumbing, plus. Very glad i found your site. Your my one site info place.
Killer vid! Thanks for sharing your trade and teaching us knuckle heads!
“Heat up the joint where you want the solder to got to”. That short sentence informs whether you’re soldering up, down, all angles in between. Thanks.
Or I was taught "The solder goes where the heat flows"
thank you for sharing, very helpful to see different systems. It helped to see the similarities in different installations. solidified the plumbing essentials. thanks!
Glad to help. Cheers!
Hey Jeff, Love your videos. Please do a video on how to solder ball valves to copper. Whenever i solder the two i end up cracking open the valve.
I’ve been intimidated by soldering plumbing but now that I’ve seen this wow game changer! Thank you
Cheers!
Thank you for videos and teaching Also, thanks for Canadian man who knows Canadian systems and coding. I love to watch your videos.
saved me $600 for valve install and upgrade from just a tub to a shower. Thank you.
Great video just like the others! Any recommendations on selecting the shower components for new construction of a basement walk-in shower? There seem to be so many options brand wise I’m not sure where to start. Components include a rain shower, handheld and possibly body sprays.
Turn your roll of Teflon tape around when putting it on the threads and you will have an easier time keeping tension on it.
Good common sense. Thanks, I enjoy freshing up on old school practice. Retired general contractor review.
Your Videos are the best. Please keep up the good work. Thank you!
Yes sir I got it..I like u ,you take the time to really show what's goin on
I'm a handyman for long time now and have many years in construction.so I know exactly what's goin on..
I feel like I'm gonna have to send him pictures of our bathroom when we are done like parents send pictures of their baby to their OBGYN. I've already spent hours watching his videos and will be rewatching them as we go along. I love how he always gives you more than one way to do things depending on price, skill, and whatever your home has depending on age and installation.
Same, just bought a 1974 tri-level that was finished out by a diyer sometime in the late 80's and not touched since. So much to do.
Im working on my Master Bathroom in my 1947 craftsman style 3/2 home thanks to Home renovision.....crazy part is I come from a family full of expert carpenters 3 generations deep( my career is cars, not building lol) , but I wanted to show my dad that I can do it w/o calling him or my uncles ( they are all retired) he smiles when he comes by & sees my work.... like Im a newborn again lol..thank goodness for people like him and UA-cam (dad grandpa uncles brother didnt have youtube to learn from :) )
Great Video. You have given me the confidence to do it myself. Cheers buddy.
Came here looking to figure out if I need to mount the valve to the horizontal 2x4,... the all 4 holes being tapped in the body of the valve really threw me off. Thank you for covering that!
Thanks for your time to make this videos man, helps me a lot blessings
Thank you very much for this instructional video it really helps me to know the products better.
Our pleasure Mark. Cheers!
Dear Jeff: Thank you so much! Splendide info. Question: why going to copper sometimes and sometimes PEX? In general, it is possible to go with PEX with the valves (thermostatic or diverter) by putting brass adaptor. But i don't know which ones is the best. Naturally i can solder... Cheers
As always another great video. Thanks for sharing your expert ideas. God Bless You.
I really love your work style.
You are very passionate to what you are doing. A great man or contractor.
Wish that I had seen this compilation a few weeks ago! I renovated our bath and used 1/2 inch pex throughout. I was bitten by the water coming from the shower head when the diverter was in the tub position. I had to open the wall back up and replace the drop to the tub spout with 3/4 pex -- problem solved.
You have an awesome personality, I really enjoy watching your shows.
Have you thought of getting sponsorship from the tools you recommend?
Thanks for all these wonderful "how to" videos.
Maybe someday but our goal is to remain in charge of everything on this channel, so we are not looking for people to want something from us when it comes to any business arrangements.
Love your videos , you give us a lot options. Thanks and God Bless
lovin' it! thanks for the video.
very helpful information. thanks for making it so easy and clear. now down ti work
Excellent information. Love to learn from the expert like you.. I will give you 10 stars.
I'm not the best plumber,but regarding to the way you try cooling them pipes,even i'm doing it sometimes,we should never cool down apupe solder with flux,or wet rag,it violently cools the solder,that contracts it and cracks may appear in it,causing leaks...lovely video though.
excelent demostration you helped me to improve my skills. thanks
Our pleasure Omar! Cheers!
This is making it easier for the next home owner. The PEX option saves $$ and is way easier.
Thank you for the great video, please note (at ~ 1:03) that although the OD of pex and copper is the same, pex has a smaller ID by virtue of the thicker plastic pipe walls.
Great channel. A trusted source.
Merci beaucoup ,j'adore vos video..!
Merci Eric, we appreciate your comment. Cheers!
Thanks for this video. I will be changing one in the next two weeks, and I am considering switching from the copper,
Copper(quality copper) is still a more permanent and long lasting pipe compared to any iteration of plastic. It will pretty much last forever. The pin hole leaks you might hear about is usually from cheaper thin walled copper. Copper also adds rigidity to the system which is important when you have to pull out a stuck cartridge. PVC shatters when it fails in 10 years and PEX leaks at the joints quite often. When plumbers say plastic is better they mean it's better for them because it's easier to install. However plastic is not better for the homeowner in terms of longevity.
Hi Jeff. I don't know if you're still checking the comments on this video - I'm hoping you do because I have a question: the control module for the Danze tub/shower kit includes a black plastic depth guide to ensure correct installation. Is this necessary? I ask because it covers the holes on the back plate and I can't see another way to mount it. I'm currently attempting to DIY renovate my bathroom nightmare and this is the only thing I haven't seen you cover in your videos. Everything else is going really well thanks to your DIY tips. Thank you so much.
Just want to say I am enjoying your videos. learning alot. I'm a mechanic bg profession buth I am a handy man but I have learned alot from your videos.
Hands down the best video on this subject.
Thanks - helped a lot
Tank's for this video. Do you need 2 T to make air colums that prevent water to make noise (bang) when you shut off valves ?
Used to use electrical tape on cuts. Now always keep el cheapo insta-glue handy. Quick clean of the wound and seal it up. Apply few more times during the day and the following days as well. Skip any infections and I guarantee in 4 days or better it'll be just like new and possibly no scar. I swear by it.
Jay Bud , haha, you noticed that tape huh
BEAUTIFUL VIDEO..THANK YOU.
Thank you for you videos. Very valuable. Watching from Aus. Great job.
Very helpful, many thanks!
Awesome Video. Very Well Explained. Hats off
Jeff, this is one of the best (maybe the best) videos on mixing valve installation on all of UA-cam. What was the model number of the Riobel all PEX mixing valve that you showed in the 3rd video. I cannot find a supplier on line that has one like this. Who carries it?
Great visual information, it really is as easy it looks.
I wish I could give you more than one Like, great job sir.
Thank Mr. Jeff. Good info and good videos. I really appreciate.
My fav home renovation channel