Nikon Z7 vs Nikon D90 | Do we really need the best camera gear?
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- Опубліковано 5 лип 2023
- In this video I do a comparison between the Nikon Z7 and the Nikon D90. Just a quick test in the field. Is the new Z system better than the old F system. Well, yes! But HOW much better is it?
This test isn't really done in a "correct" way. Think of it as a quick comparison from a photo shoot in beautiful nature.
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The kit lens that I used in this comparison was not a good match for the D90. I'm absolutely sure that the D90 itself would have performed much better with a better lens. :)
I would have used a 17-55 2.8 i'm sure with this lens the D90 would have put the Z7 in difficulty...Also remember 45 mp vs. 12...😏
Thanks for the nice comparison. You cannot imagine how the gap is reduced if you use a lens like the AF-S DX Zoom-NIKKOR 17-55mm f/2.8. With the D90, the perfect couple.
of course, it's like a guitar amp with a better speaker! The big advantage of the D90 is: you get a good cam for little money (I paid 50$ for the body) and then you can invest in a better used lense...which still makes the whole package a bargain
The D90 did a fantastic job considering:
1) 18-105 kit lens vs 24-70 & 70-200 lenses
2) 12mp on an old crop sensor vs 45mp on a new FF sensor.
So I think the lesson here should be, this is not a comparison if the glass is not equal.
Despite the kit lens, I prefer the D90 images. Recently I've been using my D300 (same sensor as the D90) much more than my modern cameras, because I find the pictures more pleasing. I'll only regret this if I wish to make any really large prints (which I seldom do). On the screen I don't bother zooming into corners anymore, because pixel peeping is a complete waste of time.
It's true. Most of the time we don't need new gear. I wish I could adopt your way of see it. But I'm hooked on new camera gear. Every 5 or 6 years I want to have a new camera. :)
Oh, but for a dedicated photographer like you, every 5 or 6 years isn't too bad. You don't suffer from serious GAS at all.
Of course, there are many improvements in the new cameras, but the final result does not always show a significant difference. I also have a mirrorless camera, but I prefer my old Nikon D80/D300. All the buttons and dials are in place and the tank-like, solid feel is like nothing else.
Nice comparison! With good lenses the d90 is still quite good camera. It’s slow and not too many megapixels but the image quality from that sensor is great
Thank you! I agree. The D90 would have performed better with a better lens. :)
@@ThomasRaskPhoto any good lense reccomendations?
I'm terribly sorry but I can't recommend a lens for you. It was a very long time ago I used the D90 on a regular basis.
@@ThomasRaskPhoto it's realy a shame we cannot use new (very decent) AF-P lenses with D90. Maybe we should sign a petition to Nikon to persuade them releasing a firmware update at least for their two „landmark” older models, like D90 and D200?
Of, course the D90 will loose this battle. But does it matter? If the photo will show a memory or express a mood, maybe the two are equal.
Yes, you are right. Image quality isn't always the right way to go. There are ofc. artistic things to consider as well. :)
6:05 if you focusing on a dslr AF sensor the lens need to be at least checked for proper focus if not fine tuned. Dynamic range is definitely better on Z9 but i would prefer D90 image for warmer colors 🤗
That was fun! The D90 was my second Nikon camera. I had a Canon 10D, my first "real" digital camera. I traded it for a Nikon D60 and then went from that to the D90. I had so much fun shooting the little D90. It was a very well made camera that took excellent photos for the time.
Thank you for making that very interesting comparison video Thomas. The D90 has had its day, but, it is still a viable camera for some uses today.
It's amazing to think of how far digital cameras have come since we first got our D90!
Hi Mike! I also remember getting my hands on the D90 back in 2009. It was a big upgrade from the compact camera I had (brand and model unknown). And it's nice to see that picture quality have improved over the years. I wish you a great weekend! 😀
@@ThomasRaskPhoto Thanks Thomas, have a great weekend as well!
@@ThomasRaskPhoto I am still using my D90. I didn't get it when it was first released so I think I've had it maybe 10 or 12 years at this point. It was my upgrade from a point and shoot. Well, I did have an old Nikon film camera (don't ask me what model/body.. I can't remember it was over 25 years ago) and even took a photography class where we learned dark room techniques. Sadly, that camera got damaged in a car accident. Anyway, my D90 has been a trusty companion over the years and while I'm still a complete amateur I've learned a lot with it. I'm still happy with the image quality of my D90 photos but the new mirrorless systems are whispering in my ear. Less weight, smaller body (at least with the Z7ii), live view, and of course all the other upgrades. The Z7ii might be my Christmas gift to myself. But it's nice to know the D90 still gets some love. Edited to add the obvious... I'm a complete amateur (although photography enthusiasist sounds nicer) and only shoot for myself, friends, and family.
@@Hoodat_Whatzit Nice to hear that you still enjoy shooting with your D90! I think you would enjoy photographing with a mirrorless camera as well. :)
D90 looks better. Nicer colours.
@@ditch1776 Nikon D90 uses Sony IMX038 CMOS sensor.
@@ditch1776it's not CCD
Excellent video, greetings from Cuba, I'll buy a d90 tomorrow n i have just a 35mm 1.8G ... I happy to see that today reflex can work good
Hi there! That sounds like a good combination of lens and camera. I guess you can get a really good price on the D90. Happy shooting! 😀
Very good choice of lens for that camera. You will probably get fairly good results because it lets in much more light than the lens used in this video. I am curious how you like it. Have fun with the camera. Greetings from Germany. o/
The 35mm lens is another perfect match for the D90. It is incredibly sharp and provides a beautiful bokeh. Looking forward to hearing from your experience after the purchase.
Nice video. Beautiful lake and forest.❤
Hi Christian! Thank you. Yeah, I love that location. 😀
Really enjoyed that! Yes, as you know, you can set the D90 self-timer to 2, 5 or 10 seconds, I believe.
Thanks for the tip! :)
you made a really nice video. I liked it. I also have the Z7, previously a Nikon D700. If I want to have photos in paper form, you have to have a graphics screen so that the photos can be transferred one to one. but the comparison you made is very interesting. But overall I like today's Nikon Z7 better.
Thank you! The Z7 is without a doubt the better camera. It comes down to what you really need. Or want to have. For that matter. It's fun to have a new camera! 😀
Very nice video Thomas :)
Thank you Kenneth! 😀
Interesting comparison!
Thank you! Cheers! :)
I have a D90 to take shots at my local INT airport it seem to still hold up and was a amazing entry into the hobby what makes it even better it was a free hand me down from my mother as she does photography as well, pretty lucky😅
Med 18-105 må du bruke f 8 til 11 for å få skarp bilde. Hva brukte du? Jeg har tatt masse bilder med D200 og den linsa i det siste og bildene blir fort grumsete noen ganger når jeg fotograferer landskaper. Det virker som om det kamera har mest problemer når jeg fotograferer ting på avstand. Jeg har mange gamle kamera . Jeg tar bare jpegs fordi jeg vil at kamera skal vise meg hva det kan.
I still have my D90 and have took some fantastic shots with it , especially the 50mm 1.8 lens and a sigma 105 mm macro , it’s still a fantastic camera and a great tool that’s cheap for anyone starting photography
Hi Thomas, that is as expected indeed. There are a few things to keep in mind.
(1) When you look at a rendition of your raw images in, say, Lightroom Classic (LrC), then that is not “raw’, but the result of “raw processing”. In the case of LrC and Photoshop (Ps), it is Adobe Camera Raw (ACR) that does the actual raw processing. As a raw file consists of monochrome data elements that either represent a digital EV in red (R), or in green (G), or in blue (B), raw processing must convert each of these into RGB pixels. That process has boatloads of uncertainty and issues, but over the past decades has become a lot better with progressively better AI and with increasing resolution, uncertainty may become less. ACR has been improved too, but in details (noise, detail preservation or prevention of detail loss) it may underperform. When you open your raw files in LrC then LrC starts ACR as plug-in and ACR does the raw processing. ACR places that result into LrC’s workspace that is based on the ProPhoto colour space. But rendition on your display/monitor is converted to 8 bits per channel (R, G, and B as reach a channel in this jargon, so 8 bits per channel means 24 bots RGB). In my prejudice, ACR is nearer "quick and dirty" than "lean and mean" - but as we always need PS, it's what we use.
When we talk about resolution, we generally mean detail resolution, but with bit depth we discuss gradation resolution.
When ACR processes your image while you set LrC to Adobe Standard, then ACR uses a profile that tweaks the raw processing and colour rendition towards Adobe’s opinion of what should be a neutral image. The profile however is camera specific. In a Windows PC you’ll find it as follows: go to directory C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Lightroom Classic\Resources\CameraProfiles\Adobe Standard\ and see that there are two versions for the Z 7: "Nikon Z 7 Adobe Standard v2.dcp" and "Nikon Z 7 Adobe Standard.dcp" (the Z 7ii has its own separate one) and the D90 has "Nikon D90 Adobe Standard.dcp" for profile.
If you go to the folder C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Lightroom Classic\Resources\CameraProfiles\Camera\Nikon Z 7\ then you’ll see the “Picture Profiles” that Adobe created to try to match Nikon’s original and v2 in camera profiles. For the D90, go to the folder C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Lightroom Classic\Resources\CameraProfiles\Camera\Nikon D90\ and you’ll see Standard, Neutral, Landscape, Portrait, Vivid, plus 3 profiles mimicking the D2X.
(2) As the D90 is a 12MP camera, it likely has a “fuzzy filter” (my nickname for the Anti-Aliasing - AA - or optical low-pass filter). This filter was invented to make raw processing easier in the early days when compute power was expensive, big, heavy, and energy hungry. That fuzzy filter is no big deal under 24MP, but it reduces low light sensitivity, reduces colour space, reduces dynamic range, reduces contour sharpness, and increases vignetting. Coming up with a fuzzy filter that retains Leica optical quality of their old lens designs caused Leica to be the last to go “full frame” on their 24MP M cameras. Nikon Eliminated it from the D800E version of the D800 about 10 years ago.
My recurring rant with ACR is that Adobe took 10 years to start to adapt to this new reality and hence I needed to buy 3rd party software from DxO (PhotoLab or PureRAW) or Topaz (DeNoise AI, Sharpen AI, Gigapixel AI) to visibly get the best results in large prints or when pixel peeping.
The noise in blurry and darker zones of the 45MP shots is simply put “failed raw processing”. ACR now has “AI Denoise” and applying this option makes for a lot better resulting image. For the best detail recovery we still need Topaz Gigapixel AI.
(3) In line with (1) and (2) we now know that comparing images in LrC means we are comparing Adobe’s raw processing profiles in the first place. The D90 images having more vivid green simply is explained by this - at least for the most part.
(4) For large prints, I try to upsample my images so as to get as close as possible to the print size in “dots” derived from the DPI applied to the print. Topaz Gigapixel AI (TGPAI) does a great job here and for images I tested, a lot better than LrC or Ps. Ps has two algorithms and these give different qualities. But can only go to 200% whereas TGPAI goes to max 32,000 on the long image side. This reflects my experience in the past 3 years or so and yesterday I found out that Ytoober Keith Cooper actually wrote about this on his Northlight Images website. The versions he used then are replaced now.
(5) If in printing you want to go really big, then you could try multi-row panoramas with a Z 35, 50, or 85 prime lens. The Z 85/1.8S may be the sharpest lens out there. But for multi-row you need a 3D panorama head and then shoot with the lens rotating in its nodal point. For a single row you only need an Arca-compatible nodal slide rail if you already have an Arca compatible L-bracket or quick mount and an Arca compatible quick release on the tripod head. For depth of field you may need to focus-shift-shoot and focus-stack these before stitching the panorama. Upsampling a single image to 32,000 on the long side then gives about 680MP for a frame. Imagine a panorama stitched from 3 or 3*3 like that.
(6) As to the Z 7, note that it has two “amplification levels” that it switches between near ISO 400. If you want low noise, shoot either in the 100-200 zone, or 400-800. And, again, note that most noise is failed raw processing in cases where the subject was in a light level in the camera’s “Contrast envelope” (the dynamic range available to a single shot). Where the camera switches to high amplification, the noise floor drops almost to 100 ISO again, so it is better at 400 than at almost 400.
(7) Human perception of detail resolution and the effect of magnification follows “linear” lines, not “area” numbers. This is age old knowledge and the reason why we express detail resolution in LinePairs per millimetre - a length or linear unit. This contrasts megapixels that represent an area. People can be excited about the difference between 60 MP and 45.7 MP, assuming 60 is a lot better. But it is only marginally so. If you have a 6,000 * 4,000 = 24MP sensor and want to double or half its resolution (ignoring the fuzzy filter that actually is a big deal) then this is how linear works: doubling a sensor of X*Y=MP gives 2X*2Y=4MP and half means that X*Y=MP becomes 0.5X*0.5Y=0.25MP. In that sense, the Z 7 is almost twice as good as the D90, but because the fuzzy filter is gone, the Z 7 has much more contour sharpness provided that does not get ruined by ACR.
That was the longest comment I have ever seen. Do you teach photography at an university? :)
@@ThomasRaskPhoto - retired - school for professional photographers (that's an applied BSc today) with 10 years as a pro, then computer science with AI and teaching, then consultancy.
But, was it TLDR?
No, no, I read it all. But you have to understand that I'm just a photography enthusiasm. This type of knowledge is way over my head. Not that I don't appreciate your comment. I'm just having a hard time processing the essence of what you wanted to say. But that is on me. My base knowledge of everything technical and software related is just very low. And I'm not sure understanding it to the fullest would help me becoming a better photographer.
Thanks for this comment. Very elaborated, now I can understand what I always felt when comparing my D90 to my D5300... and of course very nice video!
Fint reportage från Järssö Thomas. Men skillnaden mellan de två kamerorna är inte stor när man tittar på din video. Men jag förstår att din Z7 presterar på topp. Jag skrev ut en A2 idag på min Epson SC P800 föreställande Ejder på Stora Karlsö, Nikon D7100 Nikkor 300 f4 PF +konverter 1,4. Pappret var Hahnemule Torcon, man blir lycklig när bilden tittar fram från skrivarens inre. Jag ser fram mot din nästa video Thomas.
Hej Roland! Nej skillnaden var mindre än jag trodde. Speciellt om man tittar på en mindre bild, på en mobil eller liknande. Kul att du skriver ut dina bilder! Det vill jag också göra mer. 😀
Beautiful! I never thought of it, but I noticed your camera settings are in Swedish. I guess the camera makers have to put a lot of different languages in their cameras.
Hi Karen! Yes the D90 was set to Swedish in the menu. I'm not sure if I use Swedish menu on my Z7. I just don't think about it. 😃
Many thanks Sir for sharing; I just purchased a D90 and absolutely love it !!! ($250 AUD with a Tamron 17-50 F2.8 Lens !!!) Selling all my modern versions as there is a certain "Vibe" to the D90 image sensor !!!!
I hope you will have a lot of fun with your D90! :)
hi thomas im glad to find your channel ,what camera you used in bonus clip,.
Hi! Welcome to my channel! 😀 I used a Nikon Z6. 👍
D90 var min första också, därefter D700 - D750 - D500..... numera kör jag Fujifilm XT-4 med en 33mm f/1.4.
Beställer ibland större printar,senaste var på aluminium 70x50. Jag tycker glaset är viktigare än uppgradering av hus.
Tack för en till trevlig video!
Hej Magnus! Kul att du gillade videon. Du har helt rätt. Objektiven är viktigare än kameran. Vilket jag tycker den här videon visar tydligt. Innan jag köpte Nikon Z var jag väldigt nära att köpa Fujifilm. Dom gör ju riktigt bra grejer. :)
Excellent video! I have been doing these comparisons over and over myself. I keep all my cameras in plastic containers and if I want to buy a new camera. I take one out of the container and then it is all new to my and better than the others. If I ask others they can't see the difference. So I have 2 X D200, 1 D300 1 D700, 2 X canon 40 d, 1 X 100d, 1 X 7d, Panasonic FZ 1000 and so on. These I bought 2nd hand. Sold the canon 80d and Nikon z5. Bought these new but was disappointed in the improvements for the money spent. Would have sold the Z7 too, I assume for the same reason lol
Cool! I'm not going to sell my cameras going forward. I'll also save them! 😀
The comments say it all. The lens is the thing, not necessarily the body. I am sure the Z7 will wipe the floor of the D90 on the tests. But day to day, if you had a D90 only with good lenses, you would be fine. I don't have the newest currently. I think my Sony a6400 is the newest camera I have. I had a D90. I enjoyed very much. I think today for starting out, the D90 and all those F lenses you can use, and I mean all because of the pin drive on the lens mount on the D90, you would do very well. It might be on the very extreme instances you might want say a Z7. Allot more money though. I buy used or open box. Never new. I bought a Tamron zoom for $35.00 used, and love that lens. My big guns are the Canon 1DX, and 1D mk.4. Both incredible cameras. For the price or less than a new APS-C, I got each of these used that are like new, plenty of life left in them. These are pro bodies, made to take it. My Sony a7 mk.2 and a7Rii get it done without costing a fortune either.
I also adapted EF Canon glass for my Sonys. Keeps costs low, and makes it a 1 lens system. MPB.COM, and Used Photo Pros is where I get most of my gear. Authorized Dealers, warranty, and selection, especially MPB. You would be amazed what you can get for almost nothing. People want new. Their reasons. So I buy their older stuff. Works out well.
I’have a d90 since 2011, it’s still a great camera, the real big difference with new mirrorless camera is the autofocus capabiltiy, but for still or low moving subjects is still great. In my opinion in photography 70% is the brain, 25% is the Lens and 5% is the camera.
If you want compare you have to use the same objective. D90 is still good camera - sometimes less is more. If you want do pictures family or so, then D90 is very good choice for the money, special with 50mm f1,4 objective give you nice soft looking pictures. But it depends also on your art skills.
It would have been interesting to see more of an "apples to apples" comparison - the D90 with equivalent quality glass, rather than the kit lens. There are a huge number of good quality lenses that will work with the D90, including all of the Nikon-compatible full frame DSLR and (35mm) film SLR lenses. I'm not sure if they have a reverse adapter to use the Z lenses on DSLRs, but there really isn't a need for that, since there are so many lenses that fit with it, and someone buying an older model like the D90 will probably be getting mostly older used lenses anyway.
One small nitpick with the conclusion: I would say that with the D90 (& ideally good lenses), one can actually make very good prints. The higher megapixel count of newer cameras is of course an advantage if you want to crop out a smaller area of the picture and print it large. But for standard size prints (around 4x6 inches or 10x15cm) of the whole picture, the D90 with a decent lens is gonna be plenty.....And actually arguably for much larger prints too, since typically the larger the print is, the farther away it's viewed from.
But yeah, there are certainly useful features with the newer mirrorless cameras that photographers to take advantage of to improve their results in a number of situations. I still like the D90 though because it gets great shots, and since it's so cheap these days, I don't have to worry too much about it potentially getting damaged when I'm tramping through the forest 🙂
Hi.
I don't think the huge price difference is reflected in the quality of the images, the focus here is only on the user experience. With a better lens, there wouldn't even be such a big difference in quality.
Great video, really like that black side bag you have (link?). As far as the review goes I think it is just more for fun as you mention since the difference in the lenses is so extreme.
Thank you! Yes, it was just a fun thing to do for my own amusement really. :) The side bag is a Lowepro. But I can't see what model it is. It's really old. Might not even be on the market anymore. :)
Cool video. Was great to see a bit of the nature there in Sweden 🙂
BTW - That plant actually isn't called "clover" in English....In German it's called "Sauerklee" ("sour clover"), and it sounds like the Swedish name is similar, but in English it's called "wood sorrel." My kids and I like to eat it, as it has a nice sour flavor, a bit like lemon.
Thank you very much! Thanks for the correct name of the plant. My English is not that great. 😀
@@ThomasRaskPhoto - Your English is pretty good. As someone who's learned a couple foreign languages though, one thing I've noticed is that even if I think I've learned the language pretty well, there will still sometimes inevitably be certain topics that I just haven't discussed in that language, so I won't know some of the words.
Yep it's clover in english as well!
Сейчас 2023 год. Просто по приколу купил себе данную камеру. Короче, это "Dark side of the moon" на виниле... Она рисует реально шикарные снимки, которые по качеству (благодаря какой-то мягкой "ламповой" матрице) затыкают за пояс современные супер-инновационные камеры за хреналион денег. Очень похожая матрица стоит на d300 - там тоже прямо из коробки снимки такие что по цветам тянуть ничего не хочется. Короче я прозрел. Nikon d 90 - это реально очень крутая камера, особенно для художника. Особенно сегодня - современные, бездушные камеры так рисовать уже не умеют. Если найдёте в хорошем состоянии с малым пробегом - возьмите! Пусть она лежит у вас на полке для коллекции - она как масляные краски.
Hi there! I had to google translate your comment. It's cool that you enjoy your D90 :)
Hej Thomas! Har en Canon R5 som gör ett riktigt bra job. MEN den första kameran en Canon 20 D var fantastiskt bra för sin tid mvh Hans-Olof
Hej Hans-Olof! Jag har hört mycket bra saker om R5:an. Ibland kan det vara roligt att titta tillbaka och se hur kameror och objektiv har utvecklas genom åren. Ha en trevlig helg! :)
Mårten Hilmer och Thomas Heaton får se upp nu, du kommer starkt Thomas.
Oj, tack! Att ens nämnas i samma mening som dom. Kul att du gillar mina videor! 😀
It looks more natural... might be. However, there are also people who loved Kodachrome film and it wasn't because it looked natural.
Well, i had been led to believe the human eye sees to sbout 30 to 35 mega pixel so anything above is a waste unless you blowing up pictures above the size of wall art or bill boards, and if you are doing that then you should be using a hasselblad 🤷♂️.
There are so many vidios out there trying to compare a 20 year old D90 trailblazer, im still using mine, first of all i cant see the point in wasting money on this new expensive kit just for a part-time hobby, and secondly i haven got that kind of disposable income, and Thirdly i came from the world of 35mm film and still prefer it.
So my conclusion is no you dont need the best camera gear. Thanks for a good vidio.
if they fight
Fun fact the D90 was so well engineered it never got a firmware update. Still 1.00
No piękne porównanie, gdyby jeszcze porównać d90 12mp do z7 12mp (można to włączyć w manu mniejszą ilość pikseli) ale i tak dobrze widać d90 to król, szkoda że w menu z7 nie włączyłeś mniejszej ilości pikseli to porównanie miało by sens. Teraz widać że jak wyciągnę mój smartfon i z7 to telefonem zrobię lepsze zdjęcie bo ma więcej pikseli i będzie ważna liczba pikseli podczas powiększenia zdjęcia. I jeszcze obiektywy jeden za 5 dolarów drogi 500 dolarów to słabe porównanie.
What language is this? I need to google translate it :)
Well, a beautiful comparison, if you compare the d90 12mp to the z7 12mp (you can turn it on with a smaller number of pixels in the menu), but you can still clearly see the d90 is the king, it's a pity that you didn't turn on a smaller number of pixels in the z7 menu, the comparison would make sense. Now you can see that if I take out my smartphone and the Z7, I will take a better photo with the phone because it has more pixels and the number of pixels will be important when enlarging the photo. And also lenses for $5, expensive for $500 are a poor comparison.
@@ThomasRaskPhotoPolisch😂 I wrote it straight away, YT translates it for me and I can see everything in Polish
@@mariusz7213 Polska to mały kraj w środku Europy. Małp kto wie gdzie leży 😃😃
„Nikon Z7 vs Nikon D90 | Do we really need the best camera gear?” Yes - that's why we use Nikon D90. 😄
Нужно присоединить стекла от Z и делать сравнения.
И все-таки 45 мп и 12 мп есть разница.
Но даже при таком тесте разница не сильно видна
У меня есть D90 и не собираюсь от него отказываться.
Хотя есть еще и D3S.
И с этой связкой фотоаппаратов можно прекрасно фотографировать
I feel like such an idiot because I HONESTLY thought the D90 looked better, I asked my wife to come and look and she HONESTLY thought the d90 was the better-looking picture as well. Well ignorance is bliss.
I totally get it. New cameras and lenses are very sharp. A softer look from older gear can actually be more pleasing to the eye.
No comparison!
The D90 was a good camera, I purchased it new and had it for about three years.
But it does not compare to your Z7. That Z7 is a monster of a camera.
Enjoy!
Yeah, the Z7 is a great camera. Perfect for landscape photography.
Bang for your buck, the D90 is a better option for an everyday shutterbug.
I paid less than the lens you were using on your Z7 for my entire kit of D90 with the two kit lenses and a 35mm f1.8 prime...
Pixel peeping isn't an artistic expression in photography - opinion.
You bought the D90 new in 2009 and couldn't remember if it takes RAW images? I still remember most of the menu options of my D100, D200 and D90 as well as my current D7500.
You have both good memory and good hearing! Nice!