If the caliper has dual bleeder screws it definitely is able to be either a right or a left caliper. I feel like that would save on manufacturing expenses too.
Another vote for those welds. Beautiful. I know BleepinJeep isn't probably the right venue (or is it) but I wish you would do some welding / fab videos. Those of us that would like to up our game would love to see how you do it. I really enjoy Matt's fab ingenuity too.
We have some fab vids and some basic welding how-to videos. Is there something specific you'd like to see? Give me a few examples and I'll give it some thought! I appreciate the input and the compliments. Thank you! - Tim
i would love to see a good video on cheap diy weld on beadlocks for steel wheels !! you have a nice mix of jeep knowledge and great looking welds, so i would love to watch really anything tim is willing to video as he custom makes it or welds onto a jeep. keep up the awesome work and great videos!
I think I've caught all of the videos from BleepinJeep. Also I've been a subscriber to Welding Tips and Tricks for years. My cc no stranger to the Weldmonger store. Love the double tig finger. Tim as far as welding suggestions go. A great tutorial for me would be to duplicate how you did any of the welds on the truss to 9" axle. Those were just one example of the works of art you call welding. Thanks again for all of the videos.
thank you for posting the "make your own rock rings or beadlocks" video ! i am guessing that i just got lucky.?. but i feel special, like you made the video for me. THANK YOU TIM !
I'm enjoying these vids! That "kit" though. There's only one unique part, the mount, and if you've got the equipment to make it work then you've also fit the equipment to make it yourself out of steel plate.
Flash burn sucks. If you don't squint hard enough, it'll get you through your eye lids. I squint super hard. Nonetheless, I don't condone this act and I recommend wearing a welding helmet even when tacking. Its much better for your face... Even though I never seem to wear it until I'm welding.... Tim
Is there such a thing for the alignment on the rotor to the axleshaft... "centric rings"... ???? Or maybe two centric rings in one.... meaning, one side of the ring aligns the rotor to the axle shaft, and the outer most of the ring (the other side) will align the wheel to the axle shaft???
we would make a fitting to put compressed air in caliper while tac welding bracket to axel tube (Wich kept everything in place realworld conditions) also we would do more tac welds than in this video to hopefully keep things aligned before releasing air. Also squirt water on caliper & mounts to keep "O" rings and caliper seals cool when doing Tac/Partial welds before disassembly and finish welds. Over kill? probably, but pad placement on rotors and caliper alignment was dead on. (This for stock car racing where brakes have to be on the money)
The one thing about this kit that bothers me is you have to bend the bracket to offset it so it sits properly on the axle. Having that metal bender is convenient but most people won't have equipment like that.
brake rotor should have been on the other side of the axle.... inner side, then it would have fitted and brake disk would have been in place once wheel is removed. longer bolts and no issues.
Axle bearings now dickered ,It is a good kit if you have all the other tools .Other wise it is just 2 gm front calipers and a pre cut sort of fit bracket. The hardest part would be making the caliper bolts fit/align right otherwise. How do you get replacement parts now call ben dover.? Cheaper to make it yourself might take longer but just a couple of hours cutting up,drilling and taping a plate of steel. Using the rotor for centering the caliper you're now at the mercy of how well they were cut,some of the cheap one are FAR from drilled right. Beautiful welds and well done to make a one size fits all bracket work.
First off , Beautiful job here it looks perfect. Question though. Was the rotor made to go on the inside rather than the outside of the axle. Pulling the studs and putting them through the rotor first may have saved time bending the brackets and lowering the height at the same time.
Would rear disc brakes from a 8.8 Explorer diff bolt on? I fitted aussie late model falcon rear discs to a '65 aussie falcon diff. Almost a bolt on conversion That system had the bendix emergency brakes built in. Cheap.
From the flange of the axle shaft to the housing flange it looks like you have some sort of spacer is that to make up for the drum backing plate? Also what is the 4 bolts that hold the axle shaft in torque spec an the third member nuts torque spec please an thanks?!
i appricate the video and showing the kit and i will used this video as a reminder of what kit not to buy. i wont beat a dead horse and repeat what the others have already said below me, and i agree with them. the thing i see most trouble some is the rotor covered and renderd usless the centering ring for the wheel at the end of the axle. im sure theres a name for it but i dont know what it is. so now the studs have to carry the weight of the vehicle instead of the ring in the middle. that dosent seem to desirable when bounceing around off road. some one help me out here on the name,, if u know what im talkin about
There are generally two different ways wheels are centered. Hub-Centric, and Lug-Centric. Hub-Centric meaning there is an exact size hole in the center of the rim that matches the vehicle hub and achieves center by seating on the hub as you're describing, and then there is Lug-Centric, which nearly all aftermarket wheels are, which use the lug pattern of the vehicle to achieve center. If you're lug nuts are torqued down, either one is perfectly suitable for offroad, or any other conditions your vehicle will encounter. - Tim
I didn't want to go that route either. way too much work and that makes replacing rotors or a broken shaft on the trail a nightmare. I don't expect to have any issues with the way I set things up. Thanks - Tim
Definitely not a bad thing if you decide to go bigger later. I wouldn't consider myself under axled with d30/d44 and 33s, although I shouldn't go much bigger than 35s. But.. If I want to go bigger I might consider going your route so these videos should give me a idea
The truss should have been last as a 360 degree weld to the axle tube would be strongest then weld truss to bracket would have been a bullet proof install. Install a schrader valve on caliper to keep pressure on while welding. Who's rotor and caliper are used? Dodge it looks like to me..........if you ever run into trouble a parts store is closer than 3 days away from kit supplier.
Did you have to add a spacer to the bearings on the axle shaft for this kit? I'm looking to switch from explorer brakes to this kit and need to.know...
So reading the comments. Am I correct that this isn't even the correct way to use this kit, and he screwed up by bending and welding the bracket with the rotors on the front? I was wondering what was supposed to keep the rotor centered.
How is the stud going to keep it centered when you have a wheel in between? You show the rotor getting centered with the lugs. The lugs will not reach the rotor unless your running the shoulder style lugs that actually go into the wheel. Used on aluminum wheels. Sorry but that rotor is going to rock.
1 year later and 15,000 miles on this set up. No issues at all, brakes work great and I have yet to experience any rotor rock. I'm honestly very pleased with the set up! - Tim
Ruff Stuff parts are GARBAGE...300 bucks for brake calipers and rotors from AutoZone, and a Shitty made conversion bracket i could fabricate myself.. Terrible product
I disagree. RuffStuff has some of the stoutest parts available for serious offroad applications and thousands of people run their products year after year without failure. Primarily they make "builder parts" and have countless items available in that field. To say their parts are "GARBAGE" is simply not the case. They are one of, if not the most innovative and successful companies in the industry and they didn't get there with garbage parts. I did have some trouble with this particular kit on this particular axle, setting it up this particular way, however, I contacted them with my issue and concerns and without delay they gave me new brackets that addressed the problem. I decided to go this route instead of using the replacement brackets. Tim
no e brake,no good.9" axle not good bearings.light duty only.-----,,d60..kits all bolt up,no grind weld.no probs..i would of sold the 9" to some chevy guy,that would pay for 2 d60,s.YESSSS.
That axle is a work of art.
Thanks man! I'm excited to have it done and under the Jeep! - Tim
Probably the "VERY BEST" made Video's ever! This young man is a true "PRO"
If the caliper has dual bleeder screws it definitely is able to be either a right or a left caliper. I feel like that would save on manufacturing expenses too.
I've purchased these. They fit perfectly on the left or the right. Great quality as well.
Dude your total bad ass on the welds. Thanks for the video.
Thanks! Thousands of hours laying beads eventually pays off. Lol.
Tim
That looks like a sweet shop.
Another vote for those welds. Beautiful. I know BleepinJeep isn't probably the right venue (or is it) but I wish you would do some welding / fab videos. Those of us that would like to up our game would love to see how you do it. I really enjoy Matt's fab ingenuity too.
We have some fab vids and some basic welding how-to videos. Is there something specific you'd like to see? Give me a few examples and I'll give it some thought! I appreciate the input and the compliments. Thank you! - Tim
He's a master in his craft. - Tim
i would love to see a good video on cheap diy weld on beadlocks for steel wheels !!
you have a nice mix of jeep knowledge and great looking welds, so i would love to watch really anything tim is willing to video as he custom makes it or welds onto a jeep. keep up the awesome work and great videos!
I think I've caught all of the videos from BleepinJeep. Also I've been a subscriber to Welding Tips and Tricks for years. My cc no stranger to the Weldmonger store. Love the double tig finger.
Tim as far as welding suggestions go. A great tutorial for me would be to duplicate how you did any of the welds on the truss to 9" axle. Those were just one example of the works of art you call welding.
Thanks again for all of the videos.
thank you for posting the "make your own rock rings or beadlocks" video !
i am guessing that i just got lucky.?. but i feel special, like you made the video for me.
THANK YOU TIM !
If you have to do all that cutting and grinding then they need to make a better kit
@Rick P. some of us cant afford $800 brakes
Exactly! Need a caliper mount that bolts in with the four axle bolts, done!!
If the opening diameter is too small it should be corrected before halving the bracket plate.
Nice job,I went through the same thing with my late model circle track car.
Nice video... I wanna do this on my '78 F-150
I'm enjoying these vids!
That "kit" though. There's only one unique part, the mount, and if you've got the equipment to make it work then you've also fit the equipment to make it yourself out of steel plate.
RuffStuff also sells all these parts individually.
Nice vid my friend Man you guys do like HEAVY stuff! Best of luck.
Old video, but the way you guys grinded that axle flange and set the caliper in place by actuation of air is freaking pure genius. Well done sir!
I'm super jealous of your welding skills.
I love the safety squints lol
Flash burn sucks. If you don't squint hard enough, it'll get you through your eye lids. I squint super hard. Nonetheless, I don't condone this act and I recommend wearing a welding helmet even when tacking. Its much better for your face... Even though I never seem to wear it until I'm welding....
Tim
DJ goralski . I wasnt even paying attention. yes no helmet welds 😃😷👀perfect way to get blind.
adapt and overcome, nice work
great job Tim!
Is there such a thing for the alignment on the rotor to the axleshaft... "centric rings"... ???? Or maybe two centric rings in one.... meaning, one side of the ring aligns the rotor to the axle shaft, and the outer most of the ring (the other side) will align the wheel to the axle shaft???
there kit is sold out how about sharing the part numbers from the kit i’m shur the caliber is a gm
Nice job young man
I see a dual caliper setup in my future. I think the brackets come pre-bent now.
we would make a fitting to put compressed air in caliper while tac welding bracket to axel tube (Wich kept everything in place realworld conditions) also we would do more tac welds than in this video to hopefully keep things aligned before releasing air. Also squirt water on caliper & mounts to keep "O" rings and caliper seals cool when doing Tac/Partial welds before disassembly and finish welds. Over kill? probably, but pad placement on rotors and caliper alignment was dead on. (This for stock car racing where brakes have to be on the money)
You must be the smart one from Bleepinjeep... lol
Nice work
Nice job very perfect..skil full👍
Way cool video. Thanks
the stock 28/31 spline shafts will not take much abuse. Been there, done that.
@ 15:39 Portable band saw.
The one thing about this kit that bothers me is you have to bend the bracket to offset it so it sits properly on the axle. Having that metal bender is convenient but most people won't have equipment like that.
The rotor mounts on the inside of the axle flange. Can you make a video on brake lines and proportioning valve?
no,p/p valve,with disc.
brake rotor should have been on the other side of the axle.... inner side, then it would have fitted and brake disk would have been in place once wheel is removed.
longer bolts and no issues.
Axle bearings now dickered ,It is a good kit if you have all the other tools .Other wise it is just 2 gm front calipers and a pre cut sort of fit bracket. The hardest part would be making the caliper bolts fit/align right otherwise. How do you get replacement parts now call ben dover.? Cheaper to make it yourself might take longer but just a couple of hours cutting up,drilling and taping a plate of steel. Using the rotor for centering the caliper you're now at the mercy of how well they were cut,some of the cheap one are FAR from drilled right.
Beautiful welds and well done to make a one size fits all bracket work.
Very good
Nice disc conversion. But were is the hand brakes?😕
Who needs e brake?
First off , Beautiful job here it looks perfect. Question though. Was the rotor made to go on the inside rather than the outside of the axle. Pulling the studs and putting them through the rotor first may have saved time bending the brackets and lowering the height at the same time.
sure you got that rotor to slip on the shaft, but your axle registers are way off the same size. how or do you plan on addressing that?
You coulda got a disc brake Dana 44 off a Ford explorer.
Would rear disc brakes from a 8.8 Explorer diff bolt on? I fitted aussie late model falcon rear discs to a '65 aussie falcon diff. Almost a bolt on conversion
That system had the bendix emergency brakes built in. Cheap.
What did you do about the park brake.
Sweet
I'm surprised they don't include rotors with a deeper "hat" to prevent this from happening...
From the flange of the axle shaft to the housing flange it looks like you have some sort of spacer is that to make up for the drum backing plate? Also what is the 4 bolts that hold the axle shaft in torque spec an the third member nuts torque spec please an thanks?!
Brake rotor/drum must sit on the axle's center hub, not on the studs though. Did you install adapters?
Great job
i appricate the video and showing the kit and i will used this video as a reminder of what kit not to buy. i wont beat a dead horse and repeat what the others have already said below me, and i agree with them. the thing i see most trouble some is the rotor covered and renderd usless the centering ring for the wheel at the end of the axle. im sure theres a name for it but i dont know what it is. so now the studs have to carry the weight of the vehicle instead of the ring in the middle. that dosent seem to desirable when bounceing around off road. some one help me out here on the name,, if u know what im talkin about
if u read the description on ruffstuff's page, he should have put the rotor on the back side of the axle flange not the outside
Jew Bacca aaaaaaaaaaa ok,
There are generally two different ways wheels are centered. Hub-Centric, and Lug-Centric. Hub-Centric meaning there is an exact size hole in the center of the rim that matches the vehicle hub and achieves center by seating on the hub as you're describing, and then there is Lug-Centric, which nearly all aftermarket wheels are, which use the lug pattern of the vehicle to achieve center. If you're lug nuts are torqued down, either one is perfectly suitable for offroad, or any other conditions your vehicle will encounter. - Tim
I didn't want to go that route either. way too much work and that makes replacing rotors or a broken shaft on the trail a nightmare. I don't expect to have any issues with the way I set things up. Thanks - Tim
Good job
Is that light blue Wrangler a TJ? It’s gorgeous.
Nice video thanks for posting
Is that a 4in axel?
What welding wire is being used on this
and what welding settings are recommended?
What about emergency breaker?
NICE
Great vid.
By adding disc brakes how many inches should be gained if any at all?!
Not where I was expecting to see ford videos
seems like a lot of work just to run only 33s.
Yep! Sure is - but what the heck... I'm a believer in "over-axled" rigs.
Tim
Definitely not a bad thing if you decide to go bigger later. I wouldn't consider myself under axled with d30/d44 and 33s, although I shouldn't go much bigger than 35s. But.. If I want to go bigger I might consider going your route so these videos should give me a idea
The truss should have been last as a 360 degree weld to the axle tube would be strongest then weld truss to bracket would have been a bullet proof install. Install a schrader valve on caliper to keep pressure on while welding. Who's rotor and caliper are used? Dodge it looks like to me..........if you ever run into trouble a parts store is closer than 3 days away from kit supplier.
God i'm stupid. I closed my eyes and looked away for like the first 4 welds. Instincts take over too fast sometimes.
Nice...Thx👍
Don't cut the retainer bolt down.... cut the hole into a slot... Aussie ingenuity mate.
There are hundreds of disk brakes kits for 9 inch axles and this one obviously isn't the best
"hundreds"?
You said ruff stuff came down and had a solution but you came up with bending the brackets. What was ruff stuffs answer?
they started manufacturing the brackets like that as well.
How with hand rem?
Doin a conversion on a rear dana 60 8 lugs to a 5x51/2 ANY ADVICE
कौन सी गाड़ी के है भाई डिस ब्रेक
What Dewalt model impact gun is that please.
Why isn't the rotor hubcentric to the shaft flange ?
Hubcentric is for wusses
I'm SHOCKED !
I want that axle..
No way of knowing for sure but if he did not have that rear greased he could well have ruined the ring and pinion they do not like to be turned dry.
Did you have to add a spacer to the bearings on the axle shaft for this kit? I'm looking to switch from explorer brakes to this kit and need to.know...
Nope.
BleepinJeep awesone thanks! You guys are the best.
I have 1996 ford f250 7.3 I would like to know if I can find parts I wanna convert my brake drums to brake disc
It's pretty easy to just get the rear end out of a later model Super duty that came factory with disc brakes.
@@UsedEveryDay oh wow do you what year can be the same?
Elmer Simon check this arrival out.
Plenty of videos on UA-cam also.
wesleyhansen.wordpress.com/2012/10/21/94-97-rear-axle-swap/
Hell that kit don't even fit.
Amigo este disco de freno a que carro corresponde ósea para comprarlo como lo pido
Dis nigga can weld. Exalento
parking brake ?????
Who else automatically closes their eyes to welder flash? Bahaha felt silly but its reflex
At 15:48 somebody stole your saw
No hand Brake ? the rest is good .
To many mods . Indicates to me . Its not a bolt on kit. Im a welder. But have no brake to bend the metal bracket.
That kit sucks...I've done several 9 inch conversions and bracket should bolt to t bolts on back of axle retaining ring
I dont believe your eye lids provide enough protection for welding.
So reading the comments. Am I correct that this isn't even the correct way to use this kit, and he screwed up by bending and welding the bracket with the rotors on the front? I was wondering what was supposed to keep the rotor centered.
Lug-Centric. The studs keep them centered. I don't anticipate any issues with the way I set these up. Thanks -
Tim
How is the stud going to keep it centered when you have a wheel in between? You show the rotor getting centered with the lugs. The lugs will not reach the rotor unless your running the shoulder style lugs that actually go into the wheel. Used on aluminum wheels. Sorry but that rotor is going to rock.
1 year later and 15,000 miles on this set up. No issues at all, brakes work great and I have yet to experience any rotor rock. I'm honestly very pleased with the set up! - Tim
i say that is a chevy big car caliper .. looks very much like speed way eng. stock car stuff
GM half ton caliper basically.
Aye man why not put some new studs on it...
9 1/6.but then,why not fit a d60.??.or get full float for the 9".
specially made calipers,mmmmm,use chevy 5".same.
Spend some money and get a better kit .tight wod
numero uno
Ruff Stuff parts are GARBAGE...300 bucks for brake calipers and rotors from AutoZone, and a Shitty made conversion bracket i could fabricate myself.. Terrible product
I Used their 14bolt caliper bracket. It fit and worked perfect. But I bought my own rotors,calipers and lines.
I disagree. RuffStuff has some of the stoutest parts available for serious offroad applications and thousands of people run their products year after year without failure. Primarily they make "builder parts" and have countless items available in that field. To say their parts are "GARBAGE" is simply not the case. They are one of, if not the most innovative and successful companies in the industry and they didn't get there with garbage parts. I did have some trouble with this particular kit on this particular axle, setting it up this particular way, however, I contacted them with my issue and concerns and without delay they gave me new brackets that addressed the problem. I decided to go this route instead of using the replacement brackets.
Tim
300 bucks for a complete kit that's made for the fabricator is pretty inexpensive I think. most disc conversions run 2 to 3 times that price.
Autozone rotors? WTF man? Lucky if that shit lasts 1 year on a Civic.
Well I guess there is no comeback for that. hahaha
Life time warranty lol on my 3rd set no issues
Been a year now and 15,000 miles later. The entire rear brake set up including the rotors are still in great shape! - Tim
Way too much customizing for this kit... no thanks!!!!
An
Wow fuck that kit
no e brake,no good.9" axle not good bearings.light duty only.-----,,d60..kits all bolt up,no grind weld.no probs..i would of sold the 9" to some chevy guy,that would pay for 2 d60,s.YESSSS.
number two
That is an old Chevy caliper. Nothing special there
Looks like a GM brake caliper
Heck gym. You should have just fabricated the whole thing. Ruffstuff kit sucks