How to Model a River or Stream bed
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- Опубліковано 27 лип 2024
- How to Model a River Bed
This episode looks at how to model a river bed. When you are modelling an upland or small river in the countryside, it's normally clear and easy to see the rocks beneath the water. In these cases, it is necessary to fully detail the river or stream bed. This is easy enough to achieve using commonly available materials.
I've included some prototype photos to give you some inspiration. In all of them you can clearly see the rocks and pebbles at the bottom of the river, even if the water isn't entirely clear. In most cases the rocks are quite light but they can be any colour to match your existing scenery.
Tools and Materials
All of these materials are commonly available in either a DIY store or art shop. Online shops will also carry them. The Amazon links are all items I have either bought or bought something similar for myself. Clicking on any links to Amazon will give me a small affiliate income which I use to produce more videos. Every little helps!
Rock materials eg Woodland Scenics Talus
Isopropyl Alcohol and Water mix (30:70) (amzn.to/2BJh6OR)
White Glue and Water mix (30:70) (amzn.to/2ouvu3O)
Cocktail sticks (amzn.to/2Lts0Yp)
Epoxy resin
Mixing cup and stirrer
Paint - white and river colours eg Tamiya brown (XF-72 amzn.to/2NixuHf) and olive green (XF-58 amzn.to/2MOlXCI) and Vallejo white (amzn.to/2Nop2qg)
Acrylic Gloss Medium (amzn.to/2MU9VYk)
Cotton Wool (amzn.to/2wpvt4P)
Index
00:21 The Real World
00:40 Tools and Materials
02:14 Method
09:48 Final Result
10:25 Mini Kathys
11:22 Close
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Thanks Les!
This is SO effective, can't wait to have a bash myself!
Good luck! Hope you get great results.
Como siempre te quedo fabuloso.
Excellent video on what is a difficult area to look good. Thanks Kathy.
Thanks a lot! This is an oldie but I still do my rivers this way.
One more great video Kathy :)
Da Costa Thanks a million!
Extremely well done, informative video presentation. Beautiful modeling. I have made a few stream beds of my own on my train layout. It never occurred to me to paint all the rocks of dissimilar initial colors to get them all within the same tone, as you have done here. I always thought I had to select rocks of all the same approximate colors for a given scene to look realistic. This simple technique really frees things up in my pea brain! Thank you so much for sharing, Kathy. This is inspirational work.
Thanks David, sometimes it's the simple things that make the light bulb come on!
Nice ! Thank you for the video. Great idea using Gloss medium to give the water a more life like - flowing effect. This actually helped me a lot, again thank you !
Thanks! Glass it was useful.
Very nice job Kathy. Well worth the watch.
Mark Brown Thanks Mark, glad you enjoyed it.
Been watching your videos for a good part of the day. Dont think I have learned so much all at one sitting. Awesome stuff! Thanks for all what you do. Marty
Thanks Marty!
another awesome video.. thanks for sharing.. vinny
Thanks Vinny
Nice....👍👍👍
Just came across your channel Kathy. Very timely as Im about to start on a water effect for a diorama and have picked up loads of tips! Keep up the good work!
Thanks a lot. Glad you like it!
Amazing as always!
Thanks a lot!
happy to have found you! the videos are excellent - your artistic talent and humor are wonderful, and have inspired me to "take the plunge" and attempt to model a stream on my layout project. Thank you!
+mike sorendo Hi Mike,
Thanks for the compliments! I'm really glad to have helped and would love to see how your own stream comes out.
Kathy
I just love your videos!!!!
Thanks!
love the work you have done in this video ,you have gave some great ideas thanks.
+Alan Goodley Thanks a lot.
Fantastic
Thanks!
You are very good at what you do..
+Terence Minto Thanks, I appreciate the comment.
found this useful again thank you
Thanks!
Great video Kathy! Really appreciate all the great hints and insight. I'm going to be making a large table top Endor forest diorama involving a stream. Hopefully all these great tips will help!
Thanks for sharing!
+DanimalsDioramas Glad you found the videos useful. An Endor forest sounds really interesting. What scale are you doing?
Kathy Millatt The Star Wars figures I use are 3.75in. I believe thats 1/18 scale?
+DanimalsDioramas That's large enough to get some really nice details in. I'd live to see how it turns out.
Kathy Millatt Should be fun! It'll be a project I'll be undertaking over the next few months. Please feel free to sub if you'd like to see all m latest work. 8-)
+DanimalsDioramas I have done!
You know, if you want a slightly less fast flowing river or stream, you can take some fine green flocks and work it in behind the larger rocks and places it blocks the flow for algae...
I love modelling boggy areas and scummy water. That green scum is so easy to do isn’t it!
Very cool I'm working on a stream diorama for my merkava 1 tank build it has a stream and a Mountain and a low hill on the other side wear the tank will set up and be firing across the stream into the mountains were a few isis are setup.
Hope the video helps with your diorama.
Hi Kathy I am just about to build my model railroad river. Is it ok to build it over a plaster base or do I need to add blue foam? Thanks
Either base is fine, foam or plaster. If you already have plaster then stick with that.
Nice video! I'm planning on doing a diorama with a cut away water effect and will need to do a barrier as you did here. Did you notice any leaking from the Magic Water?
+LizardLandscapes All resin will leak if you let it. It's the consistency of water so if you think water can get out, then resin will too. I have had some major resin leaks in my life so I over dam now if anything.
Ok, just wondering how to get that clean look to a water cut away. I guess hard plastic? And is there a sweet spot as far as time goes for when you remove the barrier? Do you wait just enough to let the Magic Water set before removing the barrier, -meaning too long and the resin will have stuck to the sides of the barrier?
+LizardLandscapes Hi, you will need rigid plastic to get a smooth side. As to how long, I think it will either stick or not so I would let it set before peeling. It always stays slightly rubbery and if you take it away too early then it can slump a little.
I think experimentation is key and how rigid your sides need to be will depend on the depth of pour. Deep pours will need reinforcement.
Ok, thanks!
Wonderful river bed - do you think that any air bubbles could get trapped in the little spaces between or under rocks?How was the envirotex for bubbles this time around?Great work Kathy !V
I used Magic Water for this pour do didn't have a problem. When I've used Envirotex Lite in the past then it's not been a problem either. It does seem to creep into all the gaps and the bubbles normally rise to the surface. Kathy
Hi Kathy, did you seal the base of the river before the build so that you wouldn't get any leaks? I'll be using woodland scenics murky water on regular plaster.
I find the paint seals my base enough as long as you have good dams. If your plaster is even with no holes then you should be ok. If you have foam or plastic in there, remember, murky water gets quite hot as it goes off.
@@KathyMillatt thanks so much Kathy. Really appreciate that. Love your work. I'm at @superglue_modeler on Instagram 👍
Great video! I was wondering if it would be possible to use Woodland Scenics Realistic Water instead of the resin?
Sorry, I haven't personally used it so I would do a test piece first before committing to a large expanse.
OK thanks!
Hi Kathy, really like your videos, very informative and helpful. Question re the dilute pva you spray. I have been finding it hard to get it to mist properly out of the spray bottle, it comes out in more of a narrow jet than a fine mist. I figure its because its too thick ie not enough water but if I add too much water it will lose its adhesiveness? What ratio do you use? Any tips?
Also, what colour did you end up painting the talus?
Hi, I mist dilute IPA isopropyl alcohol and water but drip diluted PVA from a bottle for that reason. I find mist bottles just clog up.
I dilute both about 30:70 to water.
The colour was a mix of several acrylic paints, raw umber being the main colour but it's a bit dark on its own so I added a little bit of burnt umber, yellow ochre and natural.
Hope that helps.
Thanks!
Great video, thanks! Do you have any advice on how to model frozen stream/river. Just pour in a water solution (like Vallejo Still Water) mixed with a tiny bit of white?
Halkomahooli I am planning to do a video on it but probably not soon enough. The trick is to get the ice right.
Halkomahooli I would add a little white put probably think about the texture more. It's something I need to work on to perfect I'm afraid.
Thanks for a quick reply. I'll stay tuned for the video. Other idea I though was to just use clear water solution and the drybrush just a tiny amount of white and then use gloss varnish or another layer of water solution. How do you think that would work? Just that my scale is 15mm so there won't be that much ice or water anyway.
That's quite a large scale so I think you will need to experiment to see what looks best. I've not done an icy river with much water in but I have done icy ground. I use icy sparkles by Deluxe Materials for that and they add a great ice effect. Perhaps play around with a few heaps of them on the water?
I find 15mm scale very tiny compared to 1/72 or larger scales. 15mm figures are somewhere close to 1/100. But yeah propably best to just experiment. Thank you anyway :)
Hello Kathy, can you do a video on different methods of Ballasting model railway track and what is most realistic etc. I always find it difficult to achieve a good result and would like your expertise on this matter. Many thanks
Check out Marklin of Sweden’s excellent video on it. I’m not sure I could top that.
Does the white glue not make the fake water cloudy? I am referring more towards woodland scenics realistic water since I have heard horror stories about that.
Not if it’s dry when you put resin on. Resin doesn’t rewet the glue to make it go cloudy although I imagine there are other water products out there that might.
good job !! What kind of color is at 7:49? thank's
Hi, that's acrylic gloss medium that dries clear to give the ripple effect.
Hi - after watching effluent pipes and toxic oil puddles, I am suddenly happy with life...!
+dave glover That's the great thing about models - you can just put them back on the shelf when you're done!
Hi Kathy great video, just wondering what you use currently for water in this type of scenario. Kinda new to this :)
I use Magic Water for resin water.
@@KathyMillatt Hi Kathy, for some reason I'm finding it hard to search for. There is 'Aqua Magic' but I think that's a different product???
RicheUK very different. Try NGTains.com. They have it listed in the left hand menu.
@@KathyMillatt many thanks
@@KathyMillatt Have you tried Woodland Scenics Realistic Water?
How long does it usually take for that amount of resin to dry?
It depends on the brand and the temperature. Resin cures through a chemical reaction which is quicker when it’s warmer. Some resins I’ve used are about 18 hours, some are more than a day. You can get quick setting ones but they put out more heat which can melt surrounding scenery!
@@KathyMillatt Ok, this is good to know. Thank you! I also want to say, I am glad to see there is another lady who has a model railway. If you are interested, you can check out my instagram page regarding my model train hobby, it's @letson_trains on Instagram.
Thanks. I’ll check your page out! Women in railway modelling are a select bunch.
This would look great with an oo gauge heritage railway
It looks great with any model...
@@KathyMillatt that is true but i can just imagine a class 47 in BR green going over it on a bridge in a diesel gala
Nice image!
What is that foam base material called
+Nathan Whalen It's blue craft foam but you can use house insulation foam too with similar effect.
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