Used Jaguar XF review - Is there more to it than just the sexy looks?
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In the market for a used Jaguar XF? In the used car review video we break down everything you need to know if you're looking for a Jaguar XF, including what goes wrong? What features it comes with and whether you should buy a used Jaguar XF.
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00:00 - Intro
00:28 - What is it?
03:19 - How's the interior?
06:50 - Tech & safety?
09:09 - What's it like to drive?
10:37 - Pricing, fuel use & warranty
11:17 - What goes wrong?
17:58 - Should you buy it?
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My Dad has the 2015 XF 3.0 litre Diesel with about 150k on the clock. It's a fabulous car! Barely any issues to speak of, extremely comfortable and that engine is just brilliant. Heaps of power for a fang out in the country and gets 1000km to a tank. I've told him It's mine when he upgrades next. 🤞
good for u
I have a 2013 XF 3.0 liter AWD with all the bells and whistles. No major issues at all. Love the car.
If it was horribly neglected, I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole.
If it was greatly looked after, I'll put it in my bucket list as my next purchase.
I refuse to believe that people who can make such a good car, can't make it last. I suspect the lack of reliability is by design and it's the same with all those fancy Euro cars. I mean, plastic water pump, etc...
Planned obsolescence!
Exactly. And why they should be ignored.
Some plastics are very good. A shame they make nasty stuff which could be much better in plastic.
No
There are loads of old ones left on the road
Had an XF 2013 3.0 D V6 Portfolio for two years and never had a single issue with it. Bought with 92k miles (148K km) with good history and it never missed a beat with me doing 500 miles a week.
Great car with a lot of character and really moves when you want it to.
15:58 Thanks for the fun fact Jim! I've searched for pictures of "Jaguar AJ126 engine block" and I can say that they made my day. Cheers!
I've owned a 2010 3.0D XF S 275 Premium Luxury for three years now, bought with just one previous owner and 42k miles on the clock. I paid such a low price for it I was able to afford to get the cambelt and pumps changed and the gearbox serviced as soon as I bought it. Love the shape and interior styling, classic and modern simultaneously. Lots of features that were ahead of its time when launched. Also, 'look after your car, she'll look after you' is my mantra for faultless performance and motoring. This cat loves long journeys and positively purrs all the way. And, no, parts aren't necessarily expensive to come by if you do need them - certainly not in the UK. But, my mantra is to keep on top of maintenance (as with any vehicle), deal with any niggles before they become actual issues; rigorously change the oil and filter every 6k miles, occasionally use Wynn's diesel power 7 on a long run to give the engine and other components a spring clean, and only use Shell V-Power diesel fuel. Join the Jag forums so you can learn from others' experiences of the vehicle [and also to learn to check for potential common faults, to ensure you're not going to experience them]. Compared to my previous ultra modern vehicle, I'm now 50% more fuel efficient, carbon offset the fuel I do use and intend to run this Jag until I'm forced by law to no longer have an ICE vehicle - though, hopefully before then, we'll be able to fill with diesel replacement fuel directly.
Hi Jon, have also just bought a 2010 3.0D Premium Luxury. Only 46k on the clock (Isle of man owner). it goes in for full service and timing belt change Friday. Just wondered about your mention of the gearbox being serviced, is this recommended? Also do you have plans to change the infotainment system or is it already upgraded? Thinking of getting this done. So far loving this car.
@@simac8640I have the 2010 XFS 3 TD here in Australia, there was a South African guy who did videos on upgrades to Android auto etc. let me know how you go
Hi I've cheated and got a 10 quid bluetooth aux connector :-) lets me play my moby through it now, all I need really. I might get round to totally replacing the system when I have a word with the local car audio guy in town though..once i've recovered from the cam-belt, fuel belt servicing bill!..@@tonybooth4
Definitely a heart over head choice. I've owned a 2013 XF for four years and counting. Love it!
The bottom end failure claims are not true for the 3.0 V6.
The 2.7 V6 is the bearing spinner.
Most of the electronic failures are due to the looms, a boot loom is £150 and takes 20 mins to swap, the overhead interior lights just need a clean and regrease on the contacts to fix, takes 30mins and cost less than a fiver!
I own a 2010 3.0 TDV6 and it’s glorious, it’s age is hidden by the Black exterior and Black interior.
Servicing is key to reliability. I change my oil every year and I do less than 6,000 miles a year.
The belts are an expensive job but a good local tech did mine for £700 and I’ll probably never have to do them again, it gets 35-55mpg and goes like a scalded cat.
Most people won’t buy em and that’s fine with me cos with a little knowledge and a little work these are fantastic cars.
Keep the prices low by slagging them off so is that know how to look after a car can enjoy our XFs a little cheaper to buy 😉
I have a 2008 XF 3.0 NA with 61k km on it. Never had an issue with it but then again, I regularly get it serviced. The one issue I do have is with the chrome window trim. It has gone milky and I remedied this by getting it wrapped. Now it just looks incredible. Still very sharp and sexy for a 15 year old car. I highly recommend this car!
Lots of folks here talking about experiences have actually never owned a jag.
If ever my XF needs to be replaced, I'm opting for another Jag. My first one has gotten me hooked. It's sad that Jag is moving away from building coupe and sedans though. I think I will stick with used and never experience being an owner of a new Jag.
the what goes wrong section is hilarious in this one, insane !!
Stunning looking car still ! Great review - cheers from Brisbane
For a DIYer, best car around. Cheap af to buy, cheap to maintain if you do it yourself. When it comes to comfort and that sort of stuff, one of the best cars ever built. I got mine for 4000 euros and it nearly has 450000km, perfect.
I have had two XF's, both 3ltr diesels, never had a problem with either. My first was written off in a rear end crunch. My insurers gave me a new BMW 2ltr petrol M sport. I hated it with a vengeance, found it bland in comparison to the Jag. Now in an XJ Portfolio for the past four years and still love it!
I think you're a jag man and rightly so 😂
I have been driving an Jaguar XF 3.0D 75th anniversary everyday for the last 2 years and so far it's been decent in reliability.
The biggest issue with this model in my opinion is the electronics.
On my car the infotainment reboots randomly, the led on my rpm needle is flashing and weaker in brightness and the overhead light sometimes turn on and off by itself.
Atleast Jaguar made the modules plug and play so if you get issues with them on your car you can just buy a used part and replace them quite easily and quickly.
The bluetooth module is known for causing issues with the infotainment because of water damage/corrosion.
I think a bypass loop is the best way to deal with it because the module is so old and you don't lose much functionality.
I have also seen that some companies have started selling a complete replacement for the entire infotainment system for the Jaguar XF.
It gives the car modern connectivity options along with a much bigger touchscreen and it controls everything the original one does, adds support for other higher quality backup cameras and will work with the built in buttons is the steering wheel.
Since these infotainment systems basically are android devices that are modified to interact perfectly with the Jaguar XF they could be had for a very reasonable price.
My car starts and drives perfectly fine everyday even in the winter when it was -30 degrees outside for many weeks.
I had mine at the EU control a few days ago and the only repairs required was a single wheel bearing and 1 of the bulbs by the license plate was not lighting up.
Which is not bad at all.
I'm in UK and I have XF-S Premium Luxury V6 3.0 Diesel from 2009, same colour like in the vid but with black interior. Love it ! Wouldn't give it away now. Only issue had with it was a DPF and now a front lower forward wishbone arm bushes. I have it for 2.5 years and it made 125k miles already. Love that car
400.000 km and still strong. No issues, nothing. No oil consumption. just keeps going. And this is the S type..
Yes, that's my choice of Jag ...
Love mine, 8 years and up to 160,000 miles still going strong
I have an S-type and no way I'm ever changing it for an XF...
@@mariopizzamanmario8563the xf is superior to the s type in every single case.
*Correction RE V6 petrol normally-aspirated:* The AJ-V6 AJ30 n-a engine is based on the Ford Duratec V6 that was originally a Porsche design. It is a traditional 60 degree V6 design, not a 90 degree V6 derived from a V8.
Rather, it is the supercharged V6, the AJ-V8 AJ126 90 degree V6, which uses the AJ133 V8 engine block with the rear two cylinder bores blanked, and reduced bore sizes.
I have a 2011 supercharged 5.0...it absolutely rips yet is a smooth quiet ride. The front end style is outdated but from the back it resembles a modern Tesla. I would recommend it to someone who doesn't want to look too flashy but still have the power to put most modern sport cars to shame.
I had a RR vogue SE, I struggled to find a replacement, then after 6 months I found the XF Sportbrake with the Portfolio spec, it was 4 years old and after 5 minutes of driving it I loved it. I have had it 4 years the 2.2 is pretty bullet proof, as for leaks, none seen, ok the door actuator went. I have one of the lowest powered smaller engines, I find it ideal. This is my first Jag, I can’t imagine going to another Marque, I love it. A lot say on paper the BMW 5 series is a better car, but they still prefer the Jag.
And MANY MORE actually buy the BMW 5 series because it IS a MUCH better car in every way, and love it.
Facts from reliability surveys show Jaguar and Range Rover are by FAR the most unreliable vehicles on the road. Jaguars lag behind BMW and the other competitors in every area, from handling, performance, fuel efficiency quality, etc.
People who buy Jaguars are doing it with the hearts, because they think they are buying into that 'British' image and history (even though modern Jaguars are made by Tata an Indian company), people who buy BMW are doing it with their heads, because it is by far the much better car in every way.
I bought an XF 2012 2.2 Diesel in Nov 2012 still runs like new with no problems, other than sticky buttons which is a common problem in cars of that era including BMW Merc etc. Serviced it every 12 months done 78000 kms. Just traded it for a BMW iX EV.
I had a 3 litre "S" diesel from new (2009), for 9 years 96,000 on the clock when i sold it and apart from 2 new batteries in that period, tyres and regular servicing, never any problems. One of the best cars I have ever owned. (and surprisingly quick in the "S" form).
Mine is a 2010 model, same engine, no problems at all. I'm a member of 3 different Jag forums and have never heard most of those supposed issues ever come up.
This car broke my heart. Such a lovely place to sit and the drive was wonderful, but it was just issue after issue. Biggest problem I had was that the wheels were prone to cracking. Watch out for this, especially if you opt for an example with large alloys.
Of the 8 jags I have had. Not 1 alloy cracked.
As always great video guys. I will say this again & again, reliability is mostly down to how the owners treat their vehicles. If they service them & cherish them & spend money as it needs it without compromising they will last a long time. As soon as you start to skip services or save a few dollars on running costs then it will go down hill very fast. As a reputable mechanic myself I find it very frustrating when customers try & put off maintenance to save $$. You have to spend money to keep your vehicle in good condition otherwise it will cost you a lot more later when something does go badly wrong.
could not agree more, by the way it's my car being shown on this video.
@@karlfarrugia1204 well I admire how well you presented your car.
@@anakinskywalker4113 thanks mate appreciate that
I'm in total agreement here. People buy used euro for the 'look at me' factor and either can't afford or don't understand maintenance. Two mechanics I knew in my NZ home town liked euro cars and one was adamant that BMW electronics were the best to deal with and the other that you have to know how to work on them and where/whom to get parts. Neither were dealers but specialist mechanics.
A mate who is a Holden mechanic swears people off Captiva and Cruise but also consistently comes across other mechanics work or DIY that he has to fix because he knows all the tips.
About that shifter: Land Rovers and Range Rovers used that shifter for most of the 2010s, especially the facelift L322 and the LR4s when they got the 8 speed automatic transmission. I'm not sure if they still use it currently though.
I have a 16 plate 3ltr sport. Had it 3 years and it’s faultless. Amazing car
I have the exact same color and interior trim here in the south of England. Has been trouble free other than the gear selector needing a refurb once. The drive is superb and the 3L V6 twin turbo diesel is smooth and scarily fast !! Its a 2009 model with 93k miles on the clock but I am worried an upgrade to a BMW or Merc later will not be this satisfying !!
Just bought a 2017 XF 35t. Love the car, hope it doesn’t fail too soon
Have owned xf 3.0d for good few years, looking after it its at 180k miles at the moment and its the best car i ever had , dont want to sell it ever and if have to get rid i will buy another one of them or mercedes cls...
If I was being sensible and needed a reliable daily, Lexus. But a part of me just says buy the jag and put a barra in it.
I have a 2009 XF with the V-8. It just turned over 100,000 relatively trouble free miles. I did have to replace the plastic radiator overflow tank. It is very fast and corners extremely well.
Have my jaguar xf portfolio for 6 years , absolutely no problems , never let me down, looks snd drives beautifully. Love it!
Classy choice 👍.
got one over two years ago. love it. but at 63 it is my 9th jag. got the 1st one (xj12) at 21. better looking than any other car.
Jag should be giving you the next one , for that loyalty...
Good review. I have a SVR from 2009. Yes there have been a few expensive problems...but over 12 years I may have spent $30k in servicing and fixes. When you think I bought this for $110k (was $220k brand new), its been a great pleasure to drive. Another thing is that I got a trade in value last year of $7k...yes just $7k. Forget it I will drive this until its end. cheers
7 grand is an insult, like you said just drive it into the ground until it just stops going. Thats what I have done with my 90s Mercs.
My XF is currently on 160K miles and drives fantastic. The key factor is that I purchased with full service history. Just like any car, if well maintained it will stick by you. Fantastic to drive. Great car!!
Look at that wonderful tyre sidewall, no super low-profile wheels in sight. That ride must be great
Have a 2011 XF V8. Garage kept and drive every once in a while on weekend. Drained wiper fluid tank and will keep it empty due to possible issue it can cause. Dome light comes on randomly 👻. Passenger window will roll down randomly when trying to roll up. Serviced regularly and no other issues.
My local dealer has one of these on their lot and it looks super. Thanks for pointing out the issues with this car. No way I will ever purchase one of these.
Always have fun with the Jaguar! 😸
Still have an XF-S 3.0d 2014 from new, have covered 100thousand miles and 0 problems apart from basic servicing, take care of it and it’ll take care of you.
The V8 is what I’m after. I own Lexus and nobody beats them regarding the older LS 430. But the design on this. f Luxury V8 is wonderful. Thankyou Mr Aussie man. Appreciate honesty. I still may buy if it’s had good maintenance.
Bloody fantastic video mate! Personally I prefer the early, round headlight, model cars as you have n the video. If you think those buttons are poor I'd say the rubbery "bean counter enhanced" versions are worse in that they give a low quality feel
Like Adam said.
There is another option 😏
I have owned a 2012 Lexus GS350 for the last 7 years. It just clocked 248,000kms last week and, aside from general wear and tear, it has not given me ANY trouble at all.
I had a 2005 Lexus GS300 for a 3yrs before my current one and it didn’t give me a single issue either.
I do truly love the XF. In 2008 when they came out, I’d drool and hoped to someday own one.
But just like with luxury watches; the Japanese tend to do a far more reliable and often product, for far less $.
I love my GS 🖤
The other people here are mad praising their Jaguars.
I'd have the Lexus anyday
I love my 2013 Jaguar XF. And also love my Omega Seamaster 300m. Both gorgeous and fairly reliable.
@@azcarter4389 Why is it mad to praise your Jaguar when it has been perfectly reliable and a great car all round? A friend of mine bought the GS at the same time, same year and it's a nice car but utterly boring comparted to the Jag. I'd stick with the Jag any day, all that stuff about what goes wrong is garbage.
@@severnsea I don't know man, I just say things. I don't think you're mad to praise any car that you enjoy really. Everyone has their own taste.
I disagree with that the stuff about reliability being garbage though.
I know someone who has had many problems with his XFR Jag and quite expensive and long turn around fixes aswell. Some models are worse than others the XFR being one of the worst, but statistically speaking an XF late 2000's jag vs a Lexus GS of similar vintage are in 2 different ball parks. One has engine/transmission combinations of some of the most reliable ever produced (Lexus) and the other simply doesn't and doesn't normally bode well in reliability surveys.
I'm happy for you that you've had a great experience, but keep it another 10 years and get back to me.
@@azcarter4389 Odd that, on the owners forums the XFR is the most recommended. It's the diesels that seem to be problematic because of the DPF filters, but most cars have DPF issues because they're not fit for purpose - the stop the engine from breathing which is the opposite of what it needs. I can't disagree with the Lexus having a good reputation but they just so boring to drive, they don't have the character that the Jag has. Maybe it's because they're not as popular in the UK, but you don't see many older Lexus around. There are probably more pre-2000 Jags than anything as they are popular with enthusiasts, but that's because they are a British car. But most of the unreliability reports come from the older models. People read about them being unreliable and assume that applies to the current ones too. In 2010 the XF actually came top in the JD Power survey so they can't be that bad!
I have ownd a Lexus IS 350 F sport 2014 from new.
Nothing, absolutely nothing has ever failed.
Great car, luxurious, comfortable, handles incredibly well you could not get a better car
Bought my XF Sportbrake 3L V6 2014 model two and half years ago as a six month stop gap!!!. My normal cars were up to that point A6 Quatro,A5,A4, BMW, Mercs etc and this Jag was cheap and available, I have to say its been one of the best cars I have owned. I was shocked as I expected poor quality but it now has 172,000 miles on the clock and no issues and beats the GmbH equivalents with ease in so many ways. I get 60 mpg (=50 USA Mpg) with Cruise control set at 65, if I'm at 50mph its hit 71 mpg (=60 USA mpg).
I bought a 2013 XFS D sportbrake in portfolio trim in the uk.
This has way more character than a BMW, Merc or Audi hence why I chose it.
I really wanted the sunroof but opted out in the end for the exact reasons in this video. Also with the gear selector if it fails to rise usually means moisture has got in there either someone spilt a drink at some point someone with wet hands or got in the car wet and got water over the controls. There’s a circuit board right under there for the button panel near the gear selector, really stupid place!
Also the water wicking issue with the washer bottle is more common in the facelifted versions and tends to come from the headlamp washer pump.
'Character' is not a measureable factor, so to say one car brand 'has more character' than another is absolute bullsheet.
You think you are being smug by buying into the British image, yet Jaguar is owned by Tata an Indian company.
Many MANY more people buy cars based on facts, reliability surveys, and handling, performance, efficiency, and quality advantages, and that is why many MANY more people buy BMW's.
Your unreliable, ugly, boat-handling, oil-burning, heap of blandness, doesn't even come close to the character of my BMW M2, and it most certainly doesn't come close in handling, reliability, performance, and quality.
I've never heard Jim talk so long in my life. Wow. I even forgot that's it's a team show
Owned a 2015 XF Premium Luxury with the 3 ltr supercharged. I loved the car. My favorite, it was lovely inside and out, and drove amazingly well. Engine replaced at 30k, and aircon compressor about 2 months later. Jaguar covered the engine,I paid for the compressor. So yeah. Favorite car I've ever owned, and lived up to its reputation. Still miss it.
Needing an engine replaced after only 30k is just plain ridiculous.
@@b.schmidt3701 Yet it can happen to any car. I know people with Kia's with less mileage than that which are on their third engine.
New engine at 30K...says a lot. I once viewed an S-type which was 5 ys old and then the seller told me that the engine already replaced 56k miles. Jinxed it all.
Of course, my brother bought a 2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee and at 4400 km the engine has crapped out and has been sitting for a month at a dealer awaiting availability of a new engine. So Jag isn't alone with serious quality issues. At least the Jag would happily wag it's tail with a liberal application of throttle... if I had to choose between crappy cars, the Jag still wins.
@@mickadatwist1620 It doesn't say anything, there are countless XFs around that have covered 5 times that distance. Mine has covered 64000 miles and drives like new. It depends how it was looked after for one thing. I've heard of everything from Ford, BMW, Mercedes and countless others that have had new engines after just a few thousand miles. One of the Kia models is reported as having engine seizures after 10,000 miles and one owner reported having to get a new engine installed for the third time at 16,000 miles.
Part of the problem these days is they are so finely tuned to meet emissions standards, if they are not looked after they soon start to deteriorate but the vast majority of drivers don't do anything until it's too late, and those that do use the cheapest oil they can use and so on. Howe many women do you know who check their oil regularly, or at all?
I have owned a 2000 Jaguar XJ8 for now going 24 years. No major issues,
I bought a 2016 Jaguar XF Prestige in Hawaii in July of 2019. I loved it at the beginning. The first problem I had was the rims were 19" and scared up so I did lots of research and found the rim and tires I wanted. There were 18" and the tires I wanted came in the correct size. I bought the rims and made my appointment at Jaguar of Honolulu. When I took the car in they told me that they can not swap out the rims because I did not buy them from their dealership (The ONLY Jaguar dealership in Hawaii). I explained that I spent $2,000 US dollars on the rims and basically begged them, but they were firm and did not do the work. I took my Jag to GoodYear in Pearl City and begged them to switch the TPS sensors from the old rims to the new rims and do a wheel alignment. They agreed to switch the TPS sensors but told me they can not do work on Jaguars (At all not even oil changes). In fact, I quickly learned that no shops of any kind will do any work on a Jaguar (Fast Lube, Jiffy Lube, No one will do oil changes). Jaguar of Honolulu charges about $900.00 to service the car and do an oil change (information I found out after I was already STUCK with the car). I scheduled another appt with Jaguar to do the wheel alignment and fix the doors which were suddenly not locking anymore. At the appt I was told that the reason my doors stopped locking was the door actuators went bad. They replaced them on (2) doors and I paid the $2,000 bill making my Jaguar start to leave a dent in my wallet. This brings my investment to over $4,000 dollars plus the (4) new tires and I just bought the car! I should also say that I bought the car with 25,000 miles just for complete understanding. Door locks should not be breaking at 25k miles. That is insane!!!! Ok, so after paying the bill I walk out to my car and there is a huge 5 inch long area of scratches and missing paint at the bottom of one of the doors they fixed. I got so mad it was difficult to contain my rage after the bill I just paid. They did NOT discount the work after admitting they damaged my car. They could not even fix it that day because they had to schedule with an outside vendor for paint repairs. So I had to bring it back in a few weeks. In the meantime every time it rained my doors they started filling up with water or when I washed the car too.!!! At the next appt they (sort of fixed the paint damage). I could tell where they damaged it and they cleaned out the doors so they stopped filling up with water. This bill was no charge (Thank God!!). That was all in the 1st year of ownership. Now fast forward to now in Nov 2023. My Jag started leaking coolant. I made an appointment to Jaguar of Honolulu and the quote for the repair was $7,000 US dollars. I am not even finished making payments on the car and I have only driven the car 28,000 miles since I bought it!!! The Odometer is at 53,000 miles!!!! Explain to me how it has a 7,000 dollar coolant at 53K miles??? I own a 2006 Toyota Tacoma (I am the only owner) with 160,000 miles and only paid for breaks, oil changes, and a couple of battery replacements. How on Earth is Jaguar built so BAD????? I called Subaru and told them my 2016 Jag was in perfect condition and asked them how much they would give me to trade it in and you know what they said? Sorry, we won't take Jaguar for trade-ins. You have to sell it on your own. Are you freaking kidding me here!!!!!! I hate Jaguar and I will never ever have anything good to say about them ever again. I have to find a way to get out of this nightmare car!!!!! Any thoughts???
What a review, a load of crap, l've owned Jags for the last 24 years, after having loads of other marques, l'm now 82, the Jag, is the only car l have continuous bought. I suppose, if you ask everyone in the world as it appears you have done, you will get the type of referrals which seem to go with your BIAS. KEEP SAFE 🙌 Love to Australia 🇦🇺.
I've had my 2013 Jaguar XF for five years. It's been reliable, I had oil changes done at multi-brand service centers and the cam belt replacement at a Jaguar dealership. No worries.
My old man had a Jaguar XF S Portfolio, god dam that was a nice car! Only issue was the PDF always needing to burn off, which would force the need for a unscheduled long drive. He upgraded to a C63 S AMG after this, and I think the Jaguar was the nicer car!
Nicer ?
How can an unreliable, boat-handling, shitbox Indian made Jaguar be 'nicer' than a luxury, massive performance, great handling, amazing sounding, reliable and desirable Mercedes.
It can't and it isn't, you're talking rubbish.
@@DjNikGnashers What a strange comment, from a seemingly strange individual. lol.
1. It never had a reliability problem (neither did the AMG).
2. It was an S model, and it handled very well, while being dramatically more comfortable over the AMG.
3. The build quality and materials felt and looked better, they just did!
4. It was a UK made model.
5. How can a Jaguar XF not be considered luxury? It felt more "Luxury" compared to the C-Class, and it wasn't really close.
Yeah sure, the AMG V8 sounded far better, and handled well, but nothing that could really be utilised on public roads, making the Jaguar the nicer daily driving experience.
Perhaps instead of basing opinions mainly on the badge, you can save yourself from talking rubbish? Go away and enjoy the "reliability" and "luxury" of your entry model BMW.
@@killertaxi100 Your opinion of a strange comment is valid, as your opinion, but your judgement of my character as 'strange individual' is offensive and based on zero knowledge of me personally, so I think you're best keeping that to yourself.
Everyone can type 'my car was 100% reliable' without any factual back up evidence, it means nothing. The facts are, in every major trusted vehicle reliability survey, Jaguar and RangeRover always have several entries in the most unreliable top 10, every year, for decades. This isn't opinion, it is fact. Just because you were lucky does not mean the vehicle is reliable, it just means yours was and you were lucky.
An S model Jaguar handles ok, and it might have been more confortable and an AMG S, but an AMG S is a sporty variation of the model and is not designed to be comfortable, it is designed to be great handling. All of the road tests of the time, put the AMG S handling way above any Jaguar competitor. Am I to trust dozens of motoring journalists, or one random fanboy on the internet ?
Feeling 'luxury' is your perception, maybe you love fake wooden old man interiors, and see that as 'luxury', I wasn't just talking about opinions and preferences, I was talking the whole vehicle and it's parts too.
Your opinion the AMG couldn't be utilised on public roads therefore the Jaguar is a better daily driver is crap. You are saying, just because you can't drive a powerful RWD sports variation to it's true potential on the road, then it must mean a lesser handling car is better, you're ridiculous and silly.
I'm talking from both facts from years of surveys, and also from personal experience of working in the motor trade for years, and I'd say that counts a LOT more as a valid opinion than your fanboy bullsheet.
As for my 'entry level' BMW, I think my OG M2 is worth more, and is MUCH more desirable than your car, and held in much higher esteem for handling and drivability, and also FUN.
@@DjNikGnashers Oh dear, hahaha. Yes, you are indeed very very very strange. I think you need to go back and read my original comment again, and understand it's context.
I've never owned a Mercedes or a Jaguar, these were my fathers vehicles, which are no longer in the family (he also once owned a E36 M3 3.2L, very unreliable btw). I was only commenting based on the duration of his ownership, nothing more. I never claimed Jaguar's were reliable vehicles, and wouldn't do so. I'm not a fanboy of any car brand.
The ride in the C63 AMG S is the worst ride I've ever experienced, and that was in comfort mode. I don't think it was expectable, even for an AMG. Says a lot that the later models were released with revised suspension that was much more compliant.
The XF had real wood. The leather in the Jaguar was higher quality, and there was more of it. The plastics looked and felt nicer, everywhere. The controls and buttons were nicer to use, and felt higher quality. Particular the sound system in the Jaguar was miles better than the AMG. The cabin was more quiet as well. The Jaguar interior was easily the nicer place to spend time, more luxurious, but yes the AMG was more fun!
I don't believe how well a car handles and how fast is goes, makes for a better vehicle overall. Particularly if used for the daily commute. I'd prefer to keep my drivers licence personally. Driving like the public road is a racetrack, is pretty anti-social. The C63 AMG S could be doing 100km/h in 4 seconds, not a useful feature in traffic.
I don't think you need a mountain of power to have fun, having personal previously owned a Polo GTI and i20N, where your able to use all of the power more of the time. I also worked in the Automotive industry for 5 years, with a multi-franchise dealership in the fleet department. I sampled MANY different brands of vehicles, and if you want to talk about powerful RWD vehicles, we sold Ford Performance Vehicles (FPV).
Lastly, weird comment to make about "my car", when you don't even know what it is. BMW 1/2 series, is entry level BMW. At the time of purchasing my current vehicle, I could have easily purchased a nice OG M2 for less money if desired, and I also did seriously consider purchasing a new 128ti. By the way, I'm well aware of how special that model of M2 is, but it's not something that personally interests me. Speaking of which, I currently own a Cupra Formentor VZx (and looking into adding a Honda S660 in 2024), which doesn't really mold well for most of your arguments I think. Go on, tell me how crap my car is if you like! This is entertaining! 😄
I have a 2014 3 litre turbo diesel with 23000 miles on it it's lovely hope i don't get problems just yet.
Back looks like a fgx falcon(or vice versa) front has shades of commodore and or mondeo.
Still a damned good looking car.
I have had 2 XFs. A 2009 3l V6 diesel and then a 2014 3l V6 diesel sport brake. Absolutely the best cars that I ever owned and would buy another. I was lucky to buy Jaguar used approved. The 2009 had the boot loom fail, real door lock issue and required a new gearbox at 60,000 miles - all fixed under warranted. The 2014 had a door lock issue and when I sold it an oil leak from the rocker cover (jag estimate £1600 to fix). And rear tyres lasted only 10,000 miles.. Fabulous cars, buy one and keep aside a healthy maintenance budget.
How were you driving it? I've had over 16000 miles from the rears on P Zeros (known to be a softer than average tyre), with plenty of tread still left on them.
The best car you have ever owned, yet the boot loom failed, it needed a new gearbox, rear door lock, before 60k lol, oil leaks, rear tyres every 10k ffs.
I owned a BMW for 144,000 miles and all it needed was a crank position sensor and two rear shocks at around 120,000 miles.
You're deluded, or stupid, or both.
My turbo failed for no reason. That also lead to a certain noise at lower speed. That is probably a tapit noise.
Overall, until now I am still enjoying.
we had an XF with the 3.0 diesel, did over 300k miles (480k km), and they can be very reliable. the 2.2 and 3.0 diesels are reliable, the 2.7 diesel is the one that has all the issues mentioned. the petrol V6 and V8s are also pretty tough with timing chain issues being few and far between. electrical issues mentioned also only really affected the early models, so if you get a facelift, it shouldn't affect you. with the facelift you also got much better tech than the prefacelift car in this video, and the creaky interior is somewhat resolved as well.
The 2.7 is the more reliable of the 2 engines 3.0d. the 2.7 does not have the manifold issue the 3.0d does.
Back here, the XF is a little infra-dig, for the average Jaguar enthusiast - I for example have an XJ portfolio JLWB. It has done nearly 50,000 miles, & I have hardly spent anything apart from the usual wear & tear + a new cam-belt at 45,0000 just for the extra confidence. The last two MOTSs have passed with no advisories. There is one thing to be said fore the XJ - it’s extra length and comfort make it look a lot sleeker & give you ridiculous luxury e.g. massage seats etc.
I miss my XF will get another one day
I have a 2011 XF 3.0 Diesel turbo from new and done over 150k miles. NO MAJOR PROBLEMS at all. Usual regular services. Replaced a leaky coolant expansion bottle at 130k and at the same time replaced the pump an the rubbers and seals just to be on the safe side. Timing belt changed at 140k. Recently replaced the boot cable and Bluetooth card under the passenger seat. 12 years of safe and reliable driving. I recently bought a Tesla but still kept and love my XF.
I really like the XF. The video certainly brings it down the right question. Are you prepared to put with the faults and dramas? Jaguars really gorgeous cars but are a commitment.
This is gold
I purchased a 2015 2.0 l I'm an over the road truck driver trying to rebuild my credit the car was super cheap 16k with 75 miles it won't be driven much and sell probably after 1yr but definitely this car is sexy
Mate, great reviews, new subscriber
"Or maybe it's because the car's haunted".
Priceless
I currently have A 2014 XJ.
Most reliable, comfortable Car I ever owned…
As you do address reliability & cost & then say about those who are prepared for it in the name of emotion, when you mention Jaaaaaaag vs BMW, Audi & Mercedes, you need to add the other....... Maserati!
The ultimate heart over head purchase.
Hi from Jhb, SA. Excellent channel. My next car is going to be a Lexus, thanks to your advice. Are you going to review a used VW CC at any point? I will be glad to send you a list of my 2013 TDI's gremlins.
I live in the UK, never see these on the roads anymore, wonder why lol. Love the F type.
Same here, in and around Nottingham and Mansfield I see very few.
There are hundreds, if not more.
I live in UK there ever where
Compared to a few years ago, not that many.
Don't agree with that at all. See them all the time in the UK. I own a facelift XFS so I'm always looking out for them.
They really are a great looking car and the interior looks like a cigar lounge. A high spec 2014-15 mazda 6 would also be a more sensible alternative. Can I request a volvo S60 review the 2012-17 T5 and T6. Yes I'm a sucker for terrible cars that have personality.
Cant compare mazda 6 to jag xf...yes i do agree mazda is a nice motor but never can live up to jaguar...just a different class altogether , if there was 3.0d almost 300hp and Rwd option of Mazda then i would consider 😅
@@lukasznowak8873 I really wish Mazda did make the 6 rwd! As much as I know it's not sensible I could be very easily tempted to throw caution to the wind if a reasonable 4.2 XF came up on the market.
@@cthorno2991 spot on ! :)
I had a neighbour with one of those. So many electrical gremlins & a wire harness burnt out. No idea if they still have it as they moved to Gosford.
in the uk i love my 2011 pre facelift 3.0d xfs portfolio with de cat and remap to 340bhp black on black 150.000 miles and does not miss a beat had it 5 years paid £5000 for it only put upgraded breaks and disks all round on it it cost £200 its only cost me £500 in service and upgrades in 6 years parts are dirt cheap
I own a Jaguar xf but I didn’t know if the washer pump fails it can leak onto module operating central lines locking… £2000
I struggle with this video. I've owned 3 XFs - two first gen, a 3.0 V6 petrol and the 4.2 SV8 - and then the second gen 3.0 supercharged V6. I had to have a radiator flush on the SV8 (it had a poor service history prior to my ownership so I forgive it that) but, that aside, I've had no issues at all with my XFs. Easily the most reliable cars I've ever owned. Diesels are a different matter and, by all accounts, I wouldn't touch one with a barge pole. But petrols? Pretty solid.
ffs, spent hours upon hours narrowing down my next car and I was ready to jump into the XF! Now look what you’ve done!
Stop standing in front of it!!!! Lol. Great video
I bought a used XF-S. Its always a lovely treat to drive one, especially with 300bhp and 460lbft of torque. I pitty all the muppets that drive around in VW clone Audi's or some drug dealer in a BMW 320d
I've had my XF since 2019, but looking down on some VW or BMW owners is not something to write home about tbh ...
No thankyou, im extacticly happy with my x350 4.2 v8 no major issues in 4 years it is beautiful to drive and easy on my eye, i recently tried out a 2015 xf 3ltr petrol for a day, it was great! and i could afford it but there was just something lacking? It felt so good to get back into my 350 again, like coming home to a beautiful home, she just felt right, not everyone's cuppa but out of all the cars in this class ive tried out (out of sheer curiosity😂) my old girl has just got that something, im saving my money and if i need to spend it on "JJ" ill do that before i go buying something else, my verdict is im very happy with what ive got, she has everything i could possibly want and more and she still looks very sexy in her BRG! 😋❤
We have a 2012 XF v 8-great car
Interesting. Got a 2014 XF 3.0 V6 TDI sportbrake. Bought at 45kms and now got 190kms on it, seven years later. Only issue has been when I changed the battery and easily solved using an Autologic scan tool. Do long trips, like 650kms in a day, 5.6-7.0l/100kms. Goes and handles really well. I hear all the issues but I am convinced, long trips, drive it like you stole it and it should be good. Like any good car, if you can't afford the bits, don't buy it. The best car I've had and I've had GT W12, Mercs, BMW, Mitsi, Lotus blah blah. If you get a good one, brilliant. If you get a Friday arvo one, opps!! For me, I love it, but like all modern cars, electrics are a bastard. Next car? A classic with no 'kin electrics!!
Your mechanic was correct - the Ford engineed variety are often looked at here, as Jaguar badged Mondeos. I should think that from what I experienced of the Australian climate; I don’t think European cars reall take this into account. And yes, the electricalsc issue is just as much a problem with any modern cars. As I said, I went instead for the XJ Portfolio, but as you recommended, buying a heavily depreciated luxury vehicle requires a reserve of funds for any maintenance issues that will come up. Over here, they are a a lot less expensive than in Australia - but & and it’s a big one; you would need to have pretty deep pockets if you were going to buy the modes with supercharged V8 engines. Mine does a reasonable 36 - 50mpg on the road, depending on how I drive it, having twin turbo 3 litre v6 gives me just under 300bhp. Because since the XJ 350 models were introduced, the all aluminium body means that it’s not as heavy as it looks & it will hit 60mph in a shade under 6 seconds, which isn’t bad for a four door luxury car - on the roof lining is suede leather - but I don’t like those pop-up selectors! Any you’re right if in Australia, buy a Lexus.
The "Jaguar badged Mondeo" has always been the S-type, because that's exactly what it was - a Jaguar built on the Mondeo platform. The XF is completely new from the ground up, nothing to do with the Mondeo at all.
I used to think these were a much sexier looking Falcon fg...They sound incredible with V8 and the XFR-S is nuts...
I like cars from the Euro/Jap/Korean/US market...
(The Lexus LFA is one of my all time favourite cars)
Everyone that says get a Lexus...The reason more people don't buy the IS series is because they look like a Camry with an upgraded grill and sleeker lights...The interior is fantastic 👌...Just my opinion...But I want to feel alive when I am driving and my favourite sedan would be an Alfa Giulia GTA...
The sound ! I dropped into a local gas station with my xf 4.2 v8 gasoline ,with custom exhaust and the attendant ran inside to get his co-worker " Come listen to this car !" .
In 2014 my wife and I looked at a new XF S sport with 3 litre twin turbo diesel. We almost bought it but, the salesman was one of the rudest people I have every met - and not punched in the mouth. Anyway, it looks like he did us a favour and we bought a Lexus IS 350 F sport which we still have and I'm happy to say it has not missed a beat. I can honestly say though, the Jaguar is one good looking car.
King off the road mine is the 3.0d 190k on her still going Beautiful brilliant machine ive had bmws and Mercedes never buy anything again only a jaggg. Beautiful machines 💙
I'm moving the France to live but first going to the UK to pick up a car. First I was looking for a Range Rover with the Jag V8 Yes I know what your going to say, I've own a Discovery and I know how expensive it to fix but that's because it's Australia ! Where all car mechanics assume that you are rich because you own a Land Rover car,so they charge you immensely! But in the UK there are parts galore and basically every UK mechanic can fix them and not charge you big bucks ! Then while looking for cars over there I discovered the Jag XF OMG ! What a beautiful car inside and out and you can pick many up for $5000-9000 AUD unlike here where they sell between $15,000-20,000 ! These cars can easily tow a english caravan and I will buying one of these as well,you can pick up a decent 4-5 berth for only $3000 AUD So I will be spending just under $10,000 AUD for a Jag and caravan try and do that here in the Land of the Buck Australia !
This XF Jag kind of reminds me of how the FG Falcon could have evolved in terms of styling.
Yeah, the last Falcon (FG X) reminded me of the Jag XF and I entertained getting one of the 2.0T petrol models. Noice.
It's funny how some videos can really hook you - when I first saw Top Gear's XFR review, I was smitten. Though it was out of my price range to buy new, I had to test drive one and was hooked by that engine. Sadly the rest of the driving experience didn't quite do it for me, though I do wish I had the chance to try the facelifted version, or even better, the XFR-S.
@Adam Same :)
Can you do a video on a W204 C63. Love the videos
Owned one for a year and the engine blew. Completely my fault the dealer said get an oil change every 5k miles and I asked a shop to do it after 10k and they didn’t do it blew a few weeks later. Overall though if you take care of it this car really will treat you well. Only cheap mechanical issues that in most cases you can do yourself but i only had a couple.
Haha, the comparison of the XF interior to Helen Mirren is perfect! That is an indelible comparison, and rather apropos. Actually, I don't think the XF interior looks aged, but is always attractive, straightforward without pretensions, and absolutely timeless....just like Helen Mirren!
Thank god I bought a Mercedes, Love the XF great design, but should have been a Hatchback , Another Great Video
No, it shouldn't have. Being a sedan/saloon is perfect.
Very nice, but...can i choose to close those vents up again?
2008 XF SV8 still going strong.
Had to scrap my old reliable X type diesel due to London’s ULEZ charging….
Replaced with a supercharged XE. Hoping this would be as reliable….
Nice Seiko Turtle
Hi Guys, can you review the Mercedes SLK 3rd generation too? Thanks
European cars and electrical issues are inseparable. It happens across all their brands. If reliability is on the top of your list (and it really should be), get the Lexus GS.
I love the but was told it has lots of electrical fault
Which of them do you advice
@@irishwealth007 Mercedes-Benz is usually fairly better than their European counterparts when it comes to reliability, so if I really wanted to go for European brands, I'd pick a W212 E Class (E350 or E550). Otherwise, get the Lexus GS (350 or 430).
@@damilolaakanni thank you very much
That comment is to general...yiu can't compare British, German cars compared to.french and Italian....I've had Japanese cars with lots of problems
I am about to buy one for $16,000 3.0 TD which has been well serviced the 3.0 can be chipped to a much higher spec, the timing belts have been done and 2 other samples well looked after. I would not go for the 2.7 which was not as reliable. The motor was also used in high spec Citroen C5/6 and some peugeots. Ford in the US used it in the F150
I got oe we love it
Hold on a second! So the rain wipers are moving and are mounted on the same position as on right hand driving? This means that when it's raining heavily, the first move of the wipers will simply flood the driver's side of the windshield with water, thus rendering the driver virtually blind?????????
Those 70 odd thousand dollar examples are now $30 thousand :D