Alaska 2017 Debrief, How did the Yamaha Super Tenere do?
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- Опубліковано 11 лют 2025
- Alaska 2017 Debrief, How did the Yamaha Super Tenere do?
This video is a little long, but I had a lot of things to cover. Long story made short, my 2015 Yamaha Super Tenere did great on our almost 12 thousand mile trip from Boston, MA to Anchorage, AK and back. Of course, there were a few small bumps on the way. All the details can be found in the video.
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Just wanted to say that this is one of the videos that inspired me to get a Super Tenere.
A mechanic came into the store I work at, and upon learning I was looking for an ADV bike mentioned his friend was selling one. I jokingly asked, "Is it a Yamaha Super Tenere?" and he said he thought it was. The rest, as, they say, is history. I could not be happier with my Super Ten.
Thanks, glad it was helpful!
I’m jealous haha
I really enjoy listening to Craig. Very clear English, easy to understand everything for a non-native English speaker. Good info, Super Tenere is so reliable, one of my favorite bikes. Thanks for the video.
Thanks!
Used your input as important consideration - taking possession of 2017 ST ES with under 1,800 miles this coming week.
Seller also follows your channel - and he has outfitted the bike with many of the same adds you made.
I intend to do Alaska in 2019 - from Lincoln NE to Deadhorse and back, taking 60 - 75 days to do so.
Thanks again for your work. You helped awaken some inner adventure seeking vibes !!!
Thanks, I love hearing that my channel is helping to awaken your inner adventurer. The Tenere is a great bike, I am sure you will enjoy it! Have fun planning and ride safe!
I’m seriously considering one of these as my next bike.Your very comprehensive and informative video may very well have persuaded me!
Glad you had a safe and enjoyable trip!
Thanks!
37000 miles on my 2012 Tenere an no problems. The Tenere is a tank/pack mule.
+John G, I agree, is is a rock solid bike.
John G , how is it off-road?
Hugely underrated bike bike of choice for problem free touring.
Engine sounds like a bag of nails though.. I found it very clunky.
Mines nearly 20,000 miles now 2012 model, trips from UK to Austria, Germany, Switzerland with no issues at all. Best mod was cheapest, changing rubber seat buffers to make front seat angle flat. No desire to sell it
First off... I was raised a Masshole,,,,, but born in Ireland... now live in the Mid-Atlantic region....
Congratulations on your trip. I've got a FBMW 800ST and have been doing 7-8hr trips around the mid Atlantic region, camping in state parks and on the beach. I strive to do a trip length similar to what you just completed. It will happen some day.
Thank you for ALL the information. It's been a great resource.
Derek
Thank you, I appreciate your kind words. I started doing the same kind of rides you are doing, then started taking some week long trips and eventually started planning longer trips. Once step at a time...
I Hate Masshole's
Too many....not judging you Masshole
Masshole here
Craig I enjoy your comments and particularly like the modifications you show. I think each rider and motor can use modifications to make the ride easier, more comfortable for the long haul. Sorting the bike/rider is also a safety issue. If you are sore because the seat isn't working or is down right painful your attention is removed from the ride and focused on your bottom. The same goes for other parts of our anatomy. Thanks for your wisdom.
Chuck (GS rider)
+Charles Hof, Thanks! I agree 100%
I'm on my second Super Tenere. First a 2013, second a 2015 ES. Have over 40,000 miles between the two and can also report, zero oil consumption for those miles and I change oil at 5,000 miles. And Craig is spot-on about being impatient to start them. You do need to wait a second or two for the computer to boot up and keep your hand OFF the throttle while it does so. Then they start without a problem but tweaking the throttle during boot up seems to piss them off and they get stubborn. I can't imagine a better machine for the motorcycle camping / cross continent touring I love to do.
I agree, it is a great bike.
You say the video is too long. I think it’s not long enough. Epic. Love this. Amazing. Can’t wait to get a Super ten soon. Trying to hold out to see if the 2023 changes or if I should grab a 2015 or newer.
I wish it could get near 50 mpg but I understand the weight and power
Thoughts? Ride on!
If you want 50mph you will have to go down to the T700, which is not a bad option, especially if you want to do a lot of off-road riding. The Super Tenere is a great bike and it is very capable. It is very good sport touring bike and can handle dirt and gravel roads, as long as you have the skills.
Are they going to upgrade it? That has been rumored, but given that they are getting rid of older models that do not meet the new Euro standards, I would not be surprised to see it discontinued. Maybe a new 900T is in the works using the same engine at the MT09? But that is just a guess.
Wait to see what is done for 2023, but a 2015 S10 ES or later would be a great buy.
@@LivingOffTheSlab thank you for your time, input, and knowledge. Very appreciated. Ride on!
Thanks for your great videos Brother! It’s nice to listen to someone who speaks clearly and stays away from the unnecessary bombastic BS. You do a fantastic job of giving us the facts and I really like your mods. I’ve been riding for over 40 years and am preparing to trade my FLHT on a ST, with your great tips I know exactly how I can tailor it to fit and perform I. The manner I require. Ride On.
Thank you very much. I am glad my videos have been useful. Ride safe!
One comment on gas mileage. I have a Triumph Trophy. The windscreen is electronically adjustable. When completely down, my mileage is generally about 45-48 MPG at 70 mph. When in the fully up position, it will drop at least 5 MPG. So you can see that wind resistance is very important and perhaps the reason you did worse MPG than your riding partners with smaller screens.
However, the protection from bugs and stones is more important than gas mileage, in my opinion. Thanks for the videos!
+Gordon McLeish, No doubt the bigger screen is not as aerodynamic, but as you said the trade off is worth it. Thanks!
Craig. Thanks for a great, well-rounded review. And thanks for giving us some ideas for minor improvements. I am a US Air Force veteran and finally pursuing the things I defended all the years. I rode a Harley, but being in New Mexico, there are just too many roads here that a Harley can't handle. I am actively looking for a S10, and your review has given me the confidence that it is the bike for me to ride here. Jeff
Thank you sir, and thank you for your service! Be careful, you will end up three bikes like me. A touring bike, an adventure bike and now a dual sport. Too many ways to have fun!
@@LivingOffTheSlab Not likely Craig, I've a family of guitars to support as well!!! ;)
did you drop many bombs on women and children while protecting your freedom
I don't know if any one else commented on this, but in my experience the bigger the windshield the worse the gas mileage. For the main part the better the protection, the less aerodynamic the bike. I have seen profound differences at the pump from changing up to a large shield. Always a trade off. And the greater the effect of strong headwinds and crosswinds. A little few less mpg is worth it for minimizing the bugs hitting you and minimizing the fatigue that comes from a constant wind blast. Good job on the ride, very inspiring, good job on videos.
Thanks you very much! The shield size could make a difference, especially in winding conditions. I am sure the side winds catch it like a sail.
You get to take a trip to Alaska, then get outta going to a wedding? I'm doing something wrong!
+Son of Dad, LOL...I have a great wife!
Yes you do! And I have a feeling she'd say she has a great husband.
Lol
7:23 - 7:26 _"..over a hundred miles per hour.."_ Whoa. :O
Wow. Those 20 minutes went by fast. Love this video report. Thank you, Mr. Ripley. Glad you made it back safe. Looking forward to your weekly videos afterwards, whenever you get the chance to make them.
+huyked, Thank you!
Went to Alaska in July! My 2015 Tenere was flawless. 8700 miles on K60 tires.
This was a ride of a lifetime...
I agree, a must do ride and the Tenere is a great touring bike.
I did a 300 miles trip on the day I got it as it was far from me. 5,5 hours in the saddle and all I got out of it was a bit of bum pain but that's normal sitting for 5 hours anyways... and even that was gone in almost 2 minutes after I got off the bike.
My dream bike lived up to all the hopes I had for it!
The standard wind shield on the '11 model in its tallest setting is baaaaad for a guy like me - 6'4"- as all the air hits the visor... need to get a screen extension for this bike if you're this tall. - I had mine from my 660 Tenere when I rode the bike back home - .
Managed to get 50mpg out of it at the speed of 80mph. This might gonna drop to your mpg when loaded with a bit more weight.
Don't forget that this guy has 6 gears so use it!
I don't feel the need for cruise control thx to the fly-by-wire throttle, so if it is not standard on newer models from the '11 then might should skip it, as it doesn't require any effort to keep it at a constant speed as you have to keep your hand somewhere anyway...
I do 20mph@2500rpm in 2nd, 30 in 3rd same rpm, 40 @2200rpm in 5th, 80 @4000rpm in 6th, 90mph comes at about 4500rpm...
If you want a twin exhaust on it , look up NONE exhaust here on YT. Costs about £870.
It feels great even while filtering through traffic between cars.
I don't really understand this power issue with this bike... from 80-90mph is about a sec... that's already well over the speed limit in maaaany countries... 80-100, maybe 2 secs... It's just silly what they're talking about... also, their bike will be serviced more than the Super10, so thus will make more miles;))
Heard about a guys summary about this bike: He did about 160 000 miles on his, without any major mechanical failure... this is what I bought in for and no fiddling with the chain...
Wide roads to everyone!
Thanks! I agree, the Tenere is a great bike that is often underrated. Enjoy and ride safe!
I can verify losing mileage in the Dakotas thanks to wind. I've run into 50 MPH headwinds before there and watched my fuel drop faster than I had ever seen. The news that night let me know I'd been duking it out with a 50 MPH headwind all day. I knew it was strong, but that strong surprised me.
+V Star 1300 Adventures, Glad I am not the only one...lol.
V Star 1300 Adventures reminds me of Mojave 😡
Really glad to hear the trip went well. Enjoyed the daily updates. A comment about your gas mileage in the wind. Without a doubt, the worse gas mileage I've ever gotten on my FJR1300 was riding back from the Black Hills to Mitchell, SD on I-90. Fought a SE wind the whole way. Probably loss 25% in MPG. Like you, running a larger than stock windscreen too. That thing can act like a sail in strong winds. Not saying your tires didn't add to the affect, but that SD wind doesn't care what type tread you're running. LOL. Ride Safe!
Absolutely, I agree. The wind was the biggest issue with the gas mileage. The windscreen and the big square bags I had on the back did not help matters. I have never had this kind of issue with my Vision (being that is is 900 pounds and has all that bodywork), so I was not expecting it...it caught me by surprise.
I really appreciate this review. I have the same windscreen setup except I have the 20 inch Madstad screen. I have also added the MRA x-creen spoiler which has made a MASSIVE difference in my buffeting problem. I am going to look into a seat replacement. Glad you enjoyed your trip!
Thanks, sounds like you have a nice setup.
Fellow MA Super T owner here. I too average about 44 mpg on my older 2012 Super T with 50/50 (Shinko 804/805) tires, winglets and a 21 inch windscreen. I've recently gone to the height adjustable Givi Airflow windscreen and in the lowest position I'm getting a mile or so better mpg.I look forward to more videos.
Thank you sir, appreciate the feedback from a fellow S10 owner.
Very comprehensive review Craig. I think the Tenere was the perfect bike for your trip (and most trips for that matter).
+AdventureswithMe, I agree. It does not have all the fancy bells and whistles, but it is a rock solid bike.
I ride a XT660R, and I was never a big fan of Yamaha, but I chanced my mind. They are indeed built like tanks. My bike might not be as comfortable as the ST, but still like to do longer trips than the normal commuting. I haven't done 1000's miles trip, but racked up over 4000 miles in less than 5 months. I might just upgrade to the ST when I feel it is time to up the game regarding my bike choice. And I also want to try out this long motorcycle trips at some stage, when my daughter is a bit bigger, as she also enjoys riding with her daddy :-).
Thanks for sharing! Hopefully we will get to check out the T700 later this year. Keeping my fingers crossed.
I must admit, I had a look at the T7, and not a fan. Looks too much like an off-road bike than an adventure bike. I can't see how you can fit panniers or bags to the bike. And I like the ST shaft drive. Chain maintenance is a bit of a drag for me 😁
@@LivingOffTheSlab I bought my XT1200Z a week ago, and love the bike. Beautiful pearl white with red and black decals.
The S10 is a proven workhorse. Thanks again for all the videos you publish. I hope you get the guys to talk about their bikes as well.
+Augusto Saviatto, Thanks!
Great Video on Alaska Trip, but you got to give me some more juice here:
1. What was the biggest distance between gas stations? Did you bring extra gas with you?
2. What was the hours of operations on most gas stations? I’ve heard that some close during daylight :)?
3. Tell us more about your camping equipment, sleeping bag, pad, what weather you had during nights? Was it cold?.. etc. What was the ratio between camp/hotel nights?
4. How many days you didn’t drive? Any unexpected days, like being sick in Fairbanks?
5. If you traveled together, did you use Scala or some other RF communication?
6. Any type of navigation on this road trip? GPS or maps? What was the phone reception on this road trip?
7. How many times did you have to wash your clothes? Was it hard to find laundry rooms in motels? What was your inventory on socks, t-shirts, etc.?
8. Did you reserve your motels/hotels in advance? If not, on how many spots did you hit “no vacancy!” sign?
9. How much did you pay for: gas, hotels, campsites, food, and what was the grand total?
Much appreciated!
Wow, that is a lot....but they are good question. I will try to answer all of those in upcoming videos, but you are going to have to be patient. Some of them I have already answered in the videos I made running up to our trip. I have not yet calculated my final costs and compared them to my budget, but I will do so
Planning Part 1:
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Planning Part 2:
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Budgeting:
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Communication System Part 1:
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Communication System Part 2:
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Camping 1:
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Camping 2:
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Camping 3:
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Final Packing:
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I am sorry for asking so many questions, but I did it for a reason. I know it is hard to make a good and detailed video about the road trip after the road trip is finished. Before the trip, an excitement and Adrenalin kicks hard, so we can talk about planning ALL day long. But after that trip is over, excitement is gone too. Therefore, digging videos and talking about it now can be a hard work and pain. Ruthlessly, yes I am asking for it now. I want to hear the story that is not a plan any more, but the real lifetime experience. And that’s the reason I asked so many questions ... And yes, we’ll all wait for it … Thank you for sharing your road trip with us.
No need to be sorry, as I said they are good questions and I intend to answer them.
I HAVE A TENERE AFTER 1200 MILES BOUGHT A 27'' WINDSCREEN AND AIR HAWK SEAT I LEARNED THE HARD WY ON THE INTERSTATE LOVE THE TENERE!!
+reinhardt roofing, Yes the stock shield is not the best, same with the seat. But the money you save on the bike makes up for it.
Glad you guys made it back safely. I just completed a 4 day tour through MT, ID, WA, BC & AB on my 2016 Ducati Multistrada, and it was fantastic. The only issue we had were that the deer were out in abundance last weekend and we came a little too close for comfort a couple of times.
+dinonoce, Sounds like a great trip. We did have several animals cross in front of us, but luckily we always had plenty of room. Thanks!
65.000 Miles on a 660 Tenere en no problems at all. The Super Ten is my big dream.
I am very interested in the new T700. I hope we get it here in the US. Thanks!
I just got 2018 S10 ES and I love it! Thank you for great info. It made my decision easy.
Awesome! I know you will enjoy it.
Great video, I knew a couple that drove a Honda 350 from West Point, NY to Alaska, down to California, and back, both on that one bike. They did get married, so I guess it was a good trip.
Very cool!
Glad to hear this bike served you really well.
Thank you!
Great inspiration to do one trip like that, from Costa Rica to Anchorage. I bought a Yamaha Super Tenere, with the long trip idea on my mind. So, I don't know, maybe one day. Thanks for your tips...! ✌️
+Jadrick Solís, Thank you! Keep your dream, it will happen.
Do you still have the Super Tenere? How would you rate it after a few years?
Alaska looks incredible. Thoroughly enjoyed this vlog.
+Graham & Pie, Thank you!
Very informative review. You would love traveling through South Africa & Lesotho. I'm considering a Super Tenére or Africa Twin. Thank you for supporting our Vet's. I was an army ranger in South Africa. Becoming a citizen of these great United States in 2020. Trump 2020!
Thank You! It would be great to travel in South Africa, maybe one day.
You rode more on your trip than I do in a year these days. Thanks as always for your work.
That is more than I rode most years as well. Thanks!
This video was a lot of fun to watch and hear all the details. Looking forward to the other videos that you will put out about the trip. Good stuff.
+Brad C, Thank you!
Thanks for the reply. My friend Ron and myself are taking a "gold panning" tour this coming summer, to Colorado, Utah, Wyoming and Montana. I'll be riding a new Triumph 880 Tiger, and Ron a Kawasaki Versys 650. We've been in these areas several times on our Harley's. Looking forward to our new tour. Your videos have been a great help.
Sounds fun. I know Peter would love to do some gold panning himself. Thanks!
Really neat to have spent time with you in Anchorage Craig. I think you might like Anakee Wild tires. I'm not sure what's going on with your mileage. My ST gets 48 regularly, 54 on slower group rides. Then again, I have the full suite of upgrades. I'm not sure if that's the difference or not. Darned glad you made it home safely. Perhaps some year you guys could ship your bikes up and see more of the state. Ken
+Propelled, I have reached 50 once on an all day back roads ride. The wind was really impacting the mileage. We would love to come back and do some of the roads we could not fit into the schedule. It was great meeting you as well, I appreciate the mini tour! Thanks again!
Mileage difference is likely the larger windscreen..
Propelled 1
Well done. I was this close )( to go on an adventure ride myself. Bought a KLR650, upgraded equipment, then I was diagnosed with Hydrocephalus. I had to quit my job and sell all my adventure stuff. Sucks I know. At least I have people like yourself that can give a well-rounded idea of what it's like out there. Thank You.
Sorry to hear about your Dx, but glad I can help at least a little bit.
Had the shunt put in and feeling a little better each day. Hopefully, get another bike. I really liked the Yamaha, a little pricey though. I did find my KLR650 more suited for dirt than the street. I used to own a 1979 XT500. But an old school Harley guy once told me "Keep a wench handy at all times" Because of vibration. That '79 Yamaha was a lot of fun.
@@buaidhnobas1ify , glad to hear you are feeling better. Hope to see you back on the bike soon!
Really enjoyed all the updates. Great trip. And update.
+Nor-Cal Refrigeration & H.V.A.C, Thanks!
God gave me a 2013 S-10 w/11,000 miles on the clock through a friend last July. I've put 1600 miles on it and really like it. Hope I get to do some epic adventures like you. I've dropped it a couple times off road, I live in the CA Mojave Desert, once in a 6 in deep mud puddle, took me 20 min to pick it up! Then once while climbing a hill dropped it on one side then picked it up (15 min later) proceeded 10 yards up the hill and dropped it on the other side, don't want it to be unsymmetrical you know. I think I had the traction control in "1" which appears to be a mistake for climbing hills, it kind of ran out of poop on the the way up the hill.
Adventure riding is a learning experience, but it is a lot of fun! Enjoy!
God Bless... truly inspirational 👏
Thanks for this review. Doing my research on ADV bikes and liking the Tenere. Glad to see someone talk about it that's actually done with the bike what it was meant to do.
Thanks! The Tenere is a great bike and I think under-rated. Does not have all the bells and whistles that the GS has, but is a solid, reliable bike.
Great video, must admit I love my Super Tenere on my third, ride safe matey Gaz 😎
Great touring bike Craig. As you've found out. Very reliable and capable machine. I'm glad you had a smooth tour machinery wise! It may not be a GS but clearly served you just as well. For me the Ducati just edges the Tenere, only for the fun factor the extra performance brings.
Thanks for sharing your journey Craig.
+Sleepingdragon 1, Thanks. There are a lot of great bikes out there.
Good talk through on the bike. Congrats on your epic adventure. ATB Gez.
+Crafty Bush Prepper, Thank you!
Happy to see that things are going well and safe. Awesome!
+Joe Rosado, Thanks!
Followed this whole trip, how awesome. I was waiting for the bike story, it is a must do for me now.
+GTFiorano, It is a must do for sure. Thanks!
Damn, I like that brake platform/riser!
+2 Wheeled Rider, I am very happy with it. Looks like you have been on a great trip too.
Enjoy your videos greatly. Trying to decide on a bike, so looking forward to hearing about the Ducati and Triumph too.
+Ernest Ross, Peter just told me he is working on some talking points about his Tiger.
Thanks.
Nice video. Looking forward to all the debrief videos. Thanks Craig.
Thanks!
It is not a video of a good adventure, it is a scientific report !!! Ah ah ah! A trip of three friends with three different bikes is pure motorcycling. Thanks for sharing.
Making the average consumption is always difficult to calculate, sometimes gasoline of poor quality makes the difference, like the wind, the temperature, the altitude, for example here in Portugal, the fuel is good, in neighboring Spain is already weaker, it is I need more acceleration, then the consumption is higher, arriving in France, we already have better fuel, and everything goes back to normal, the oil companies themselves make different fuels, for the altitude or not, it also affects, you see?
I may never know exactly why I had just a dramatic change. The wind is the prime suspect, but there could have been other factors, including bad gas. I did add a stabilizer to the tank after the really bad day...did that help...how knows. I will track the mileage now that I am back home and see what happens. Thanks!
Glad to hear the bike did really well. I just might be looking at one for my next bike.
I am very happy with it. It is not fancy, but it is rock solid.
It looks good, I don't see where it needs to look any fancier. But it sure does seem like it will be one bike that fits every riding style I want to do. All I can see myself doing right now is commuting to work, weekend trips and some dirt / gravel roads. I don't plan on doing any serious off roading.
Just came across your trip and thought I'd let you know I found a GREAT tire pressure and temperature monitor on amazon called CAREUD. I've been using it for 2 mo and just absolutely love that I always know the pressure and temp of my tires. Its a simple set up of putting on new valve caps.
Thanks!
Craig, you've done a great job of comprehensively documenting your ADV riding choices and experiences. One topic that I wasn't sure if you addressed was the electronic suspension on the ES version of the Super Tenere. How often did you adjust the settings during your Alaska trip and how often do you adjust them for your normal, everyday riding? Does the ability to make adjustments while riding make a substantial improvement to the the ease, comfort, and safety of different riding conditions of road type (asphalt, gravel, dirt), surface quality (potholes, ruts, washboard), weather conditions (dry, wet)? Thanks in advance and keep up the great videos!
I think I have answered similar questions via comments, but you are correct I have not done a specific video on the subject. Having the ES is nice, but in truth it does not get adjusted very much. I have one setting that I use for normal riding and another when loaded down. I prefer the suspension a little stiff, so when not loaded, I will run preload at rider and gear and the damping at standard +1 or +2. Then when loaded I will switch the preload to either two up, or two up with gear depending on how much I am carrying. The damping I will turn up to Hard +1 or +2. Once I find a comfortable setting, I just leave it there. I cannot remember the exact setting I used on the way to Alaska, but once we got up into the Yukon where there were a lot more ruts and pot-holes, I stiffened it up a bit and it helped greatly. Thanks!
Thanks for the quick and detailed reply. I've been interested in the Super Tenere for a while and am trying to determine if the convenience and functionality of the electronic suspension and the heated grips of the ES version are worth the extra cost, weight, and complexity versus the standard one.
I hear ya. When I was looking, being able to adjust the suspension electronically seemed like a good idea, and I definitely wanted the heated grips. So far I have not had any trouble with it, so I would probably do it again, but it is not as big a feature as I thought it would be. In either case the Tenere is a great bike.
I recently got back from Alaska (June-July 2017) on a Super T. I had to have my forks rebuilt in Anchorage. I also had the luggage carrier break completely off the bike taking my top case along with it. My extended warranty took care of the fork rebuild. Yamaha and my dealer refused to do anything about the luggage carrier and top case.
+Aki Kazeta, Wow...one thing I should have mentioned is that I added some neoprene fork guards to protect the lower seals. I was told that damage to the lower tubes and thus the seals, was very common on the gravel roads. Sorry to hear about your top bag. Was it the stock rack and case?
I also added some neoprene Seal Savers to my forks... after the rebuild. I had no idea that inverted forks are so vulnerable to gravel dust. The Super T is sold as an adventure bike but it definitely has its weaknesses. Seal Savers are a MUST if you're taking inverted forks on gravel or off-road. A day trip from Fairbanks to the Arctic Circle resulted in a $750 USD repair bill. Fortunately, my extended warranty explicitly covered fork seals.
Yes, my Super T luggage was the stock side cases and the matching Top case. There is a serious design flaw with the top case luggage carrier; it is only secured by two bolts along the back side. Even though my case was not overloaded (I was very careful to stay below load ratings) the rack snapped off at the bolt sites. Apparently, whenever I hit a pothole or dip in the road, it would case the rack/top case to bounce which created torsional stress at the bolt sites. Eventually the plastic luggage carrier simply failed due to the stress.
I just traded my 2016 Super T in on a 2017 BMW R1200 GSA. I really liked my Super T but the lack of service/support that I got from my dealer and Yamaha forced me to dump them both.
PS... love the videos. Keep 'em coming!
Aki Kazeta:::: That plastic thing they call a tail rack is a POS..
I replaced mine with sheet aluminum and modified a Stop sign for a luggage platform.
I have had 80+ pounds on it and taken down some rough roads.
Use it when i go off foraging for fire wood along side the forestry roads.
I saw one clip and thought, Idaho? Nice! Truly a trip through God's country! I've been day dreaming of a long trip! I appreciate the videos and they have helped alot on my upcoming selection of bike! Being 6"7' 220lbs the Tenere is gping to be a pretty good fit.
+j.house013, Idaho was awesome, as was everywhere else we went. Thank you for watching, glad you are enjoying the videos. The Tenere is a great bike, let me know how it works out.
You have to get a screen extender or a touring screen with an extender on top of it. I'm 6'4" and the standard screen on the '11 model at its highest setting throws alllll the air in the world in my face...
Thank you Dr. Slab....Great review...especially appreciated the review of your seat modifications and modified brake lever. Evidently a great outing that gave you a chance to review the Tenere'.
Thanks, yes it was a great test ride.
I'd love to hear your thoughts on those panniers that you have. I am buying a 2016 and it does not have any. Those SW Motech's seem to be one of the best aftermarket options, but they're pricey!
The SW Motech Adventure cases are excellent. I really liked the quick release racks too. I now have Givi bags on my Triumph. They are nice as well but if you force me to pick one, I would go with the SW.
Sounds like you made some excellent choices with your modifications and additions.
+Len Scapoff, Yes they worked out well.
Just got back from a 7k mile round trip from NYC to the west (Co, Wy, etc.) on my SV650. Thinking next time I do a big trip or even a medium trip, it might be nice to be on something shaft driven, and maybe even something with wind protection! Like the idea of the Tenere. Thanks for the high mileage review of this bike. Helpful.
Maybe I'll make a high mileage review of the 3rd gen SV, could be useful to someone. Thank you!
Thank you, glad the video was helpful. I think one on you SV650 could also be helpful to someone out there.
I bought one of these about 4 years ago. It is a 2014 that only had 375 miles on it. I have taken it almost across country, and had lots 200'300 mile days with it. No regrets! Nice machines for all around touring! Who do have do your valve adjustments on this thing?
Mine is coming up soon. I will take it to my local dealer.
I live in Eastern SD, and the wind is always blowing. My '14 ST gets low 40's MPG when I set the cruise on 80mph down I-90, a bit less when it's real windy/gusty.
I don't know, my was getting really bad mileage. There may have been multiple factors involved. Thanks!
I could easily copy this review and apply it to my 2013 ST from my AK trip. Great bike!
Yep, the Tenere is a great bike. It does the job. Thanks!
I have 18,000 miles on my 2017 S10. Its been completely bulletproof so far and I have no plans to upgrade until like you said YAMAHA makes something better. The chain drive T7 doesn't appeal to me, but a new S10 adding cornering abs, lean sensitive traction control and a tft display like on the Tracer GT would be great. You're right 95hp is enough but bikes like the super adventure are more of a hoot due to their 160hp motors, so maybe yamaha will grace us with another 15-20hp in the next version.
I agree, the extra HP is fun. I too like the shaft drive, but a lighter bike is also appealing...one of each? Thanks!
Yep cutting the weight is high on my list too, she's tough to pick up off road in the mud with little traction. Don't ask how I know.
LOL...been there too!
Well Done Craig! Look forward to the Alaska videos!
+lonestarrider, Thanks!
Great video! S10s are awesome bikes....love mine. Looking forward to all your debrief vids. Great job.
+Michael & Colleen Doherty, Thanks!
Windy? Yes you are! Happy trails!
I am curious to know, now that you have the bmw experience, which of the two would have been better to go to Alaska?
A lot of people do it on GS's so they would be the one to do it on, but for me, I would take to the Tenere any day.
@@LivingOffTheSlab thanks for the reply
I am familiar with the Tenere, I ride a FJR now. I am very curious of what Sleeping Bag & Tent u used for this trip, Very informative video, Thanks.
Thank you! I used the Sierra Designs Flash 2 FL. I believe I had a Mountain Hardware spelling bag, but have since changed to a Sierra Designs Front Country Beg, which is zipper less. Much more comfortable. If cold, I have a quilt that I throw on top.
Suzuki v storm 650s worst was 42mpg and best was 62mpg. I averaged on the Alaska trip with about 48-50mpg. I was sad to see you didn't make it up the Dalton highway. I'll post a video soon enough of the Dalton.
+Eric Fling, Thanks. We just did not have the time to do it all. This was a long trip and so much of it was used traveling from Boston and back. Not complaining, that is just the way it was. At some point it would be great to go back and rent bikes in Alaska, so that we can do all the things we could not on this trip.
Really comprehensive and great explanations.
Thank you!
My friend Craig thank you for your review of the Yamaha Supertenere, the next year the friends I met on the trip to Prudhoe Bay wants to go down to Tierra del Fuego, I am thinking of doing this epic trip on a Yamaha Supertenere, two of my American friends will be riding on BMW1200, the third is still to decide his bike, I am seriously thinking about the Supertenere
Thanks so much Jorge. Tierra del Fuego sounds like a great trip. The Super Tenere is a great bike and I can enthusiastically recommend it, but there are a lot of great bikes out there, so I would suggest trying out as many as you can. Ride safe!
thanks for the effort and the sharing. as someone looking at used teneres, i'm psyched! thumbs up.
My pleasure!
I agree with you review on the Mitas E07 Dakars, they are awesome tires.
Thanks!
This bike made the final 3 of my list for my next bike along with the Triumph Tiger and the BMW. However, it's really a tie between the Yamaha and the Triumph. The BMW is just a bit out of my price range, unless I want to save up a bit longer.
All three bikes are great options, as you mention there are big price differences. I have enjoyed the Tenere and think it is underrated as a ADV bike. It does not have all the bells and whistles, but does the job very well. The Tiger 800 is also a good option. My buddy Peter loves his.
I can n't wait to watch rest of the trip videos. I have a question about the direct drive shaft vs chain? I read a lot about it and how the dds do better compared to belt and chain in power transmission wise. Have you experience any issues with that ? And do anyone on the trip had issues with their chain drive?
+Suresh Vkumar, My understanding is that the chain is the lightest and best system for power transfer. The shaft is heavier, and because it must go through a differential, has a greater amount of power loss. The chain however, does require a lot of routine maintenance where the shaft is relatively maintenance free, other than changing fluid ever 16,000 miles. Neither Peter or Steven had any issues with their chains. Peter used an oiler so he did not maintenance on the trip. Steven cleaned and lubed his chain twice over 6500 miles. I am not sure that would be recommended, but it worked for him. Thanks!
Thanks for sharing an overview of your experience and also how the bike went.
Really like your hat, can I ask where you bought it or what brand it is please?
Thank you! I got the hat up in Nova Scotia from a local seamstress, the shop is called Sew Inclined. She does hats by order the model is the Che Guevara. www.sewinclined.ca/
@@LivingOffTheSlab Thank you
Thanks Craig for the excellent video. This made up my mind to buy a S10.
Thanks!
Really useful stuff, thanks. And what a trip! Am very interested in this bike. I think it really holds it's own against the competition even today. I would still rather have this than a GS or KTM which are way more expensive.
Glad you got something out of the video. The Tenere is a often overlooked, not very flashy and extremely reliable motorcycle.
I am looking for the madstad windscreen. Can't seem to find it.Dis-continued maybe?
Forget it... I found it.... Thanks anyways
Ok, cool!
I'm looking at a motorcycle trip from Texas to Juneau. I have family up there. Its 3555 road miles from me. 7110 round trip. I hope I get to do it.
Sounds great, hope you get to do it!
86,000 km on my 2015 KTM 1290 SA...Only had a switch replaced under warranty. I’d hope that the S10 is durable, as it’s only putting out ~100 ponies from a 1200cc engine - it’s gotta be pretty under stressed
Lol...I will keep an eye on it.
great detailed debrief..... love that bike.
+Dirt Hammers Off-Road Media, Thank you!
Love your videos chief!! I just picked up two days Ago anniversary edition yamaha ST ! I saw ur bike’s headlights you got protectors on it what brand would you recommend also PIAA accessories lights any pacific models? TIA
The headlight guard is from Alt-Rider and I did this video on the PIAA lights and installing a PDM60. ua-cam.com/video/OT1ii0KphCM/v-deo.html
Craig. Nice videos. I stumbled on your VLOG by accident and have really enjoyed your Alaska, Bike and equipment videos. I never considered the Tenere, but you have me thinking about it. Keep up the good work!
Keith.
2014 BMW R1200RT
Thanks!
Hey Craig. Have you considered a episode on what video equipment you used on the road and your editing process? Your videos are done very well and I am sure people would be interested in your thoughts. Thanks again!
Yes, I will try to do that over the winter. Thanks!
Great vid and i can only imagine what a great adventure your Alaska ride was.
Thanks!
Great review. Did this Yamaha have torque down low in the rpms? ..and do you remember the rpm when going 80 mph on the hwy? I had the Yamaha FJ 09 but the rpms where screaming high at 80 mph and the seat was very hard. So not a good touring bike. Lol
Thanks!
Thank you! I. 6th gear at 80 it is probably around 3500 to 4000. The sweet spot is at 4 to 5000. There is plenty of low end torque, but you really need to ride in that 4000 plus range to get the most out of of the engine. If you are looking for a something that will ride in the 2 to 3000 range, I suggest looking at a cruiser. These bikes (ADV) are made to be ridden in the upper RPM range.
How was the Mitas on the grooves on metal bridges and on wet roads. I have heard that the Mitas are not real good on the wet surface. I have had three sets of K60’s and like the life of them but the front tire will fade on you when on gravel or dirt. Did not like that.
We rode in a lot of rain and never had an issue with slipping. The bike moves a bit on metal bridges, but just stand up let it move under you. One place where I did not like them was on grooved concrete roads. Had to keep the speed around 70.
Good evening Craig!
Its time to put tires on my very first tenere!😃
I mainly use my bike for commuting.
I plan on doing a 3000 mile round trip mostly highway & light dirt road & forest service roads.
I wanted to as what tire would you recommend?
Thank you!
Right now I am using the Dunlop Trail Smart tire and using the Tenere in a similar manner to what you describe. So far the Trail Smart is very good on road and seems to be good on well maintained dirt and gravel roads. Next time I may try the Dunlop Trail Max Mission which is supposed to be a 50/50 tire. I have read mixed reviews about it's off road capabilities, but as an 80/20 tire, it sounds like it would work great. For venturing into the dirt and mud, I have used the Mitas E07 and have been very pleased.
Very good video thanks for your time great info will be looking at one of these thanks
Thank you, glad it was helpful. The Tenere is a great bike and very good value in this category.
I have seen your videos of the trip to Alaska, and also seen videos of people riding cruisers up there. My question to you is because of your detailed planning, what was it in your planning for Alaska that made you decide to buy an adventure bike?
We could have ridden our big touring bikes up there. Most of the roads were paved and even the ones that were not could be done on a big road bike, just maybe a little more slowly. The one acceptation was the Top of the World Highway. As long as the weather is good, a big bike would be ok, but I would not want to do it in the rain. I think the biggest reason to take the adventure bike was to experience something new, to have a lighter more nimble bike that is better suited for camping and unexpected conditions. After doing the ride, I think we made the right choice, an adventure bike is the best option for this kind of ride, however, as I said you could easily do it on any bike.
Nice video & a nice bike. I'm 71 (yoa) & went to Alaska (from Florida) back in July of 2015 & am going back in June of 2019. I have two bikes & went in 2015 on a 2014 FJR & will be going this year on a Honda NC 700X which is a GREAT little bike & which I have done part of the TAT out in Colorado with. However - saying all that I really like this bike. Have always liked it & at this time am thinking of trading in both my bikes on a used one that already has a ton of after market equipment on it. My problem here is that I'm 5'7" with a 29 inseam & although I can flat foot both the bikes I own now I would not be able to do it with the ST. I don't want to lower the suspension so do you have any suggestions. In closing may I say your video has made its viewers some very well informed riders.
First, thanks for the kind words! I made a video a while back on riding a tall bike, I will link to it below, but the bottom line is that you have to learn to ride it differently than you do a lower bike like a cruiser. rather than trying to put both feet down, you have to learn to handle it with one foot. It is very easy once you get used to it, just takes a bit of practice. By the way I am 5'9" with a 31 inch inseam.
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Thank you sir. This was helpful.
I just got back from a week long motorcycle camping trip in north Georgia/North Carolina area and was blown away by all the adventure/dual sports bikes I saw in the campgrounds. I have a 2012 Vulcan Nomad 1700 and have always owned cruisers (since the 80's). Looking to add an adventure bike. I'm 6' 4", would this bike be a good choice?
You would probably ride the bike in the high seat position and might need to make some modification like I did to accommodate my lack of height, but yes it could be a good choice. I would suggest finding a dealer and taking a test ride. Check out as many different bikes as you can and find the one that works best for you. There are a lot of great bikes in this category. Thanks!
The KTM adv bikes are really tall, you might want to check those out.
I'm just shy of being 6'4" tall. I ride a KTM Super Adventure T. The KTM and BMW's just seem to be built for tall people.
I remember you were considering a Parabellum windshield and a Madstad. I have always used Parabellum and found them to give me excellent protection in bad weather as they are a bit wider. I recently purchased the Madstad hinge/windshield package. I am sure you did a lot of research and I am wondering why the Madstad was better than the Parabellum? Thanks. Joe
I looked at several shields and finally decided to go with the Madstad primarily because it was made to work with their bracket. Not being able to try each one, I just kept it simple. I am sure the Parabellum would work just as well. Thanks.
...that’s when those tire pressure monitors can come in handy. My KTM came with them, and sometimes they’re a little bit annoying when the low pressure alert flashes on the screen (the first few times they scared the hell out of me), but overall they’re a great thing to have on a touring or adventure bike. You would have known you had an inflation problem way before the tire bead unseated.
I hope you can comment on your SWMotech Trax Adventures...were they water tight, dust proof, big enough and convenient?
I have thought about adding TPMS to the Tenere. I might look into it again, as it would be nice. The Trax Adventure bags worked great. No problems or leaks. Where they big enough? Yeah I think so. The bike is already 38 inches wide with then on, so would not anything bigger.
I'm glad the trip went well and I hope to try the same thing in a couple years. As you post more vids about the trip, could you give us the low down on how the other two bikes did on the trip? Thanks for the vids and information. :)
+jhezbeat, Thanks! I will try to get the other guys to talk about their bikes, but overall they did great.
REAL life videos...keep them coming ...ride safe !!!!
Will do, thanks!
Great review and what a trip!! Makes me want a super ten.
Thanks, it is a great bike.