1-That always happens 2- That happens even quicker when you get a job as a teacher 3- Ben is sure very far from his best shape. And I don't mean only his chess shape.
@@kensanity178 he was 2563 at one point. The last time he was over 2500 was mid 2016. Obviously he's not been competing very much for quite a long time now anyway
Yeah, I was surprised when Finegold said the computer didn't think much of the exchange sac because it gave a score of almost zero. If the computer doesn't like your exchange sac, it scores it -2 or worse. Any time it says you're about equal when you're down on material, that means you have a ton of compensation and you're in a good place and, typically, your opponent has to play very accurately to maintain that near-equality. I'm sure Finegold knows all of this!
I'm a chess player. I make a sacrifice if in my analysis I'm going to gain some positional advantage. Judging positional advantage should be the kind of thing Finegold is teaching. Not comedy.
Interestingly, lc0 finds 17. Rxb2! almost instantly and says it is the best move! stockfish doesn't find it on its own, but after you play the move, even it agrees now. Guess this Kasparov guy was pretty good!
Regarding the sacrifice, the real trick is the distance black's knight needs to travel in order to challenge white's on d5. The deceptive proximity ordeal is an important concept for beginning players to understand.
karpov/topalov, 1994, 1-0 topalov/shirov, 1998, 0-1 kasparov/topalov, 1999, 1-0 topalov, idk what you're doing with your life, but you need to stop getting immortal gamed on.
Topalov/Kasparov 1994, 1-0 Olympiad Topalov/Kasparov 1996,1-0 Euwe Memorial Topalov/Kramnik 2008,1-0 Wij kan Zee Тоpalov/Anand 2005,1-0 MTel Masters Topalov/Carlsen 2008,1-0 Bilbao Topalov/Nakamura 2015,1-0 Sinquefield Cup yor are right chess is clearly not his thing :D:D:D:D
ohhh he is bad bad for losing against 2 word champ and a top player? i wish i can play like topalov... imagine that you manage to win against kasparov in 1994!!!!.... anand in 2005 ...kramnik in 08!!!!Carsen in 08!!!! and Nakamura in 2015...!!! Oh yes he is bad he is the worst.... If you want to win to those Word class champions you will lose many times.... he doesn't play for a draw... like most hight ranked GM against top GM
@8:05 I think Nd7 is pretty good for white. After the only answer Qa7, then white can castle and his game is actually good actually he might be slightly better than black because of the knight on d5.
When I first saw GM Finegold he reminded me to an enemy of mine. He's been so mean to me. So I got a prejudge against GM Finegold, but really liked his lecture, very pedagogical style, the way he points out things are so good, that even a child would get something of all the exposition. Very understandable material, very fine. And the theme was so important. Excellent job!
SF17 in 2024 instantly sees Rxb7. Thinks it's one of the better moves, but not the only good move. Eval floats around +0.2, which drops down to around +0.1 as we approach very high depths (~60).
3:26 Rxb7 top engine move , but it's equal(+0.42) and it's not an only move Wait eval is slowly growing(+0.64) +0.70 +0.74 +0.61 so about equal and better for white
I wonder, what happens if you put stockfish play against itself (or some super grandmaster) in the position after the sacrifice? Has anyone tried that?
I'm not really a strong chess player, but I think after g5, white can play g4 to win the knight as a compensation. if Ng7 then the black bishop now has a safe square, and if Nf6 then the bishop not only has a safe square but it can also capture g5. btw I might be wrong.
Vinícius Borges Well, obviously white is better, it came as no surprise :P In theory White have material compensation as well as a better position. The point would be to find a better option then Qxa6 as in the game or Bxf2+ as suggested earlier.
For a beginner, it doesn't really matter. You just need something that will run through your game and point out the tactical errors, and any engine can do that. And, for now, ignore any suggestion that changes the evaluation by less than about 0.5 -- essentially, it's saying "Well, this move is better, as long as you then start playing like a grandmaster" and you're not gonna do that. (Yes, I know this comment is six years old, so you're probably not a beginner any more. But maybe my response will be useful for somebody else.)
As soon as you learn to analyze who has a positional advantage, you will know when to sacrifice. Look at the 'game of the century'. Its not clear, but Bobby knew he had a solid position advantage and it was set up by the queen sac on move 17.
I agree. Obviously knowledgeable about chess, not funny. Show us a game where you're a piece down, but you have two connected passed pawns. Show us the correct way to win a game like that.
People underestimate the value of a bishop because the value of controlling a diagonal is not valued properly. A bishop can challenge a queen on a diagonal while a rook cannot. Rook 4.6 Bishop 4.3 Queen 9.0 "Chess Secrets The Value Of The Pieces" on you tube. Great video, thanks Mr. Finegold.
Well, a rook can challenge a queen on a rank/file while a bishop cannot, and last time I checked, there are 8 ranks and 8 that both have 8 squares to control, while there are only two long diagonals, both only 7squares. Sorry, but it should be Queen: 9.0, Rook: 5.0, Bishop, 3.1, Knight 3.0, King, 3.5.
Terrible vs Horrible Even though these two words are used interchangeably, they are not synonyms. In fact, their meaning are quite different. Simply put, horrible is associated with a feeling of outrage; while terrible is associated with a feeling of dread or terror.
Usually, yes. The one case I read about used a tiny earpiece which is very popular amongst certain students (i.e. those cheating in exams). A walk-through airport detector would not find it, and a hand-operated scanner would need to be set to high sensitivity and directly scan the ear. Plus, the device could always be planted at the scene in advance.
Does a lecture on positional long-term exchange sacrifices, manages to turn it into a comedy routine.. I swear to god this man is a treasure to chess.
I've watched this lecture probably 20 times by now and I just keep coming back, this plays like a comedy routine so well.
I've seen this lecture 3 or 4 times and I always find information I missed. Tooth hurts.
Same… Its borderline weird.
"Shirov has an excellent record against Kasparov. He didn't want to blemish it by ever winning."
Haha.
Haha.
Haha.
"King E8... setting up for the next game"
Great line.
This aged like fine gold
00:59 Garry Kasparov vs Alexey Shirov, Credit Suisse Masters (1994), Sicilian Defense: Lasker-Pelikan. Sveshnikov Variation Chelyabinsk Variation (B33)
13:33 Anatoly Karpov vs Ulf Andersson, Milan (1975), Sicilian Defense: Paulsen Variation. Modern Line (B44)
26:20 Anatoly Karpov vs Veselin Topalov, Linares (1994), English Opening: Symmetrical. Anti-Benoni Variation Spielmann Defense (A32)
As of 9/14/2023, Stockfish 14 with NNUE says the Kasparov exchange sacrifice is +0.8, about a pawn up for white, at depth 33.
Great lecture. Ben Finegold makes for a good chess teacher.
Bens rating dropped below 2500. I hate when that happens!
1-That always happens
2- That happens even quicker when you get a job as a teacher
3- Ben is sure very far from his best shape. And I don't mean only his chess shape.
hahahahaha---3.
It never was over 2500.
@@kensanity178 he was 2563 at one point. The last time he was over 2500 was mid 2016. Obviously he's not been competing very much for quite a long time now anyway
5:34 How did a dolphin get into a chess lecture?
GM Ken West approves of this lecture
I'll never forget it :-)
But Kanye West does not. He's too damn dumb to play chess.
Thx alot for putting these videos online, they are really great!
What a legend! Best chess educator ever. He makes the lecture fun(ny), and keeps it very instructive
If you're down the exchange and the game's almost equal, I would call that a successful sacrifice.
Yeah, I was surprised when Finegold said the computer didn't think much of the exchange sac because it gave a score of almost zero. If the computer doesn't like your exchange sac, it scores it -2 or worse. Any time it says you're about equal when you're down on material, that means you have a ton of compensation and you're in a good place and, typically, your opponent has to play very accurately to maintain that near-equality. I'm sure Finegold knows all of this!
I'm a chess player. I make a sacrifice if in my analysis I'm going to gain some positional advantage. Judging positional advantage should be the kind of thing Finegold is teaching. Not comedy.
ben is fking hilarious and he kinda grows on you..at first i didnt like him so much but after 2-3 vids i cant get enough :P
me 2
HOW TRUE! I JUST CAN'T GET ENOUGH OF SWINEGOLD EITHER! HIS JOKES ARE SO GOOD I CAN'T STOP LAUGHING! EVEN NOW! AHAHAKRAAAHAHAHA!
"swinegold" holy shit hah
IT was the same for me.
I dont agree that he is hilarious. He is ignorant. Not funny. Chess, not ignorance, ok?
Another entertaining lecture by the 40 year old GM. Many thanks.
"and he gets the dark squares ooOOooh"
When you're ahead, get more ahead. When you get more ahead, get more aheader. Then lose on time like a gentleman/lady.
It's not a sin to lose a chess game. But too lose on time is dumb. Cant you see your opponents clock?
Interestingly, lc0 finds 17. Rxb2! almost instantly and says it is the best move! stockfish doesn't find it on its own, but after you play the move, even it agrees now. Guess this Kasparov guy was pretty good!
Rxb7*
Black weaknesses on the light squares makes up for the saced quality :) Love this match so much, watched on it several times :)
5:30 was that a dolphin?
Who does the "advanced lecture" target (approximately what ELO rating would it correspond to)
9:30 Instead of playing the knight to e8, I think Q:g6 immediately wins as well in a more beautiful way.
Nice spot
oops, typo. Meant Rd6.
Regarding the sacrifice, the real trick is the distance black's knight needs to travel in order to challenge white's on d5. The deceptive proximity ordeal is an important concept for beginning players to understand.
At 5:35 I think I heard a dolphin.
Damn, I was two years late to that joke
what did he say at 33:14?
at 33.04, what happens if Rd4 instead of Qd6? White cannot move the knight, and he has no more checks.
Ne4, Qb6, Qxd6+ etc.
I just put it through Fritz, it's roughly .6 worse than Qd6.
Nice Job
Didn't know Luca Brasi Gave Lessons LOL
What? You didnt get the dead fishes? It's a Sicilian message, Ben's comedy sleeps with fishes.
karpov/topalov, 1994, 1-0
topalov/shirov, 1998, 0-1
kasparov/topalov, 1999, 1-0
topalov, idk what you're doing with your life, but you need to stop getting immortal gamed on.
Topalov/Kasparov 1994, 1-0 Olympiad
Topalov/Kasparov 1996,1-0 Euwe Memorial
Topalov/Kramnik 2008,1-0 Wij kan Zee
Тоpalov/Anand 2005,1-0 MTel Masters
Topalov/Carlsen 2008,1-0 Bilbao
Topalov/Nakamura 2015,1-0 Sinquefield Cup yor are right chess is clearly not his thing :D:D:D:D
Topalov is terrible. Worst GM ever.
Very competent statement indeed :D
one of the most obvious trolls right here, ladies and gentlemen
ohhh he is bad bad for losing against 2 word champ and a top player? i wish i can play like topalov... imagine that you manage to win against kasparov in 1994!!!!.... anand in 2005 ...kramnik in 08!!!!Carsen in 08!!!! and Nakamura in 2015...!!! Oh yes he is bad he is the worst.... If you want to win to those Word class champions you will lose many times.... he doesn't play for a draw... like most hight ranked GM against top GM
@8:05 I think Nd7 is pretty good for white. After the only answer Qa7, then white can castle and his game is actually good actually he might be slightly better than black because of the knight on d5.
When I first saw GM Finegold he reminded me to an enemy of mine. He's been so mean to me. So I got a prejudge against GM Finegold, but really liked his lecture, very pedagogical style, the way he points out things are so good, that even a child would get something of all the exposition. Very understandable material, very fine. And the theme was so important. Excellent job!
Surely you jest.
SF17 in 2024 instantly sees Rxb7. Thinks it's one of the better moves, but not the only good move. Eval floats around +0.2, which drops down to around +0.1 as we approach very high depths (~60).
At 11:48 why didn't he play knight c7 check and then queen f7 mate..??
Nonsense, Queen can't play f7, there's a pawn on g7.
what's the name of this software?
ChessBase 12.
3:26 Rxb7 top engine move , but it's equal(+0.42) and it's not an only move
Wait eval is slowly growing(+0.64)
+0.70
+0.74
+0.61
so about equal and better for white
I wonder, what happens if you put stockfish play against itself (or some super grandmaster) in the position after the sacrifice? Has anyone tried that?
Mr finegold u always give the best and most instructive lecture u are a great teacher
First game: Sveshnikov; Second game 13:33 Hedgehog
The king is permanently weekend. Right, Arjen?
Ben should be doing standup Chess Comedy
To play chess, or to pretend to play chess. That is the question.
This is the best chess grand master ever
26:58 Doesn't g5 win a bishop?
I'm not really a strong chess player, but I think after g5, white can play g4 to win the knight as a compensation. if Ng7 then the black bishop now has a safe square, and if Nf6 then the bishop not only has a safe square but it can also capture g5. btw I might be wrong.
The h5 knight's hanging
5:53
why not ...a4 here for black?
Old comment I know, but i think white's threat after a4 is either knight to b6, winning the pawn.
At 31:40, after white plays Rd1, can't black safely play Bf2+ and take the rook?
Octo Pusish Oh, I see now, thank you.
Bf2+ isn't working for said reason, but c4 or Qxb2 might?
perkalov Houdini says C4 is +2,41 for white (Bd5 and if you take f2 you are -5 after Kxf2)Qxb2 is +2,41 for white after Bb7
Vinícius Borges Well, obviously white is better, it came as no surprise :P In theory White have material compensation as well as a better position.
The point would be to find a better option then Qxa6 as in the game or Bxf2+ as suggested earlier.
perkalov The best continuation is Rf8, then white is a pawn and a half ahead. White is probably winning no matter what.
Great humor!
4:40
i would have shouted "AFTER"
karpov got 11/13 in the linares 1994
At 30:25 Finegold curses
Rxb7 is really intuitively
16:25 "The king is weakened" I guess when he said "king", he meant karpov
Wow this was really cool
33:32 Why not Rd1+, Qc6+, Rh1 (check if not mate) and comtinue to harass the king until mate? The bishop can possibly be taken too.
Daniel Jesús Valencia Sánchez Bishop takes rook
9:31 Qxg6!!! other than Ne8
What is some good software for a beginner not trying to be a GM just get decent!
A chess book.
Fritz Chess 13 - www.amazon.com/Viva-Media-V01001-Fritz-Chess/dp/B00604IFBQ
For a beginner, it doesn't really matter. You just need something that will run through your game and point out the tactical errors, and any engine can do that. And, for now, ignore any suggestion that changes the evaluation by less than about 0.5 -- essentially, it's saying "Well, this move is better, as long as you then start playing like a grandmaster" and you're not gonna do that.
(Yes, I know this comment is six years old, so you're probably not a beginner any more. But maybe my response will be useful for somebody else.)
I also know how to make exchange sacrifices but it doesn't work
As soon as you learn to analyze who has a positional advantage, you will know when to sacrifice. Look at the 'game of the century'. Its not clear, but Bobby knew he had a solid position advantage and it was set up by the queen sac on move 17.
RAWR!!! 2023!!!
Setting up for the next game hahahhahahagaha 11:07
25:50 - 26:15
made me lol 10 sec irl
10:30 "He's so mean"
20:47 😶
5:34 🐬
f3 ? Terrible!
25:35 "Man, Ivanov, I don't want to say anything on the camera - He's the biggest cheater ever!" What happened to not saying anything on the camera 😂
Big Ben is always precise when beating grandmasters.
second game, white makes mistakes after the sacrifice, with an accurate move, hes far in front.
Aaaaand controling b6 ? Terrible.....Horrible
Good
Why does he cheat? I didn't know about it until this moment.
lol i said the same thing in every video of him BEN IS THE MAN !!!!
"But that's a porn night"
is this guy a comedian or a grandmaster
Both! :-)
Ben is a funny guy.
3min "Terrible...Horrible"
DIIIINGGGG!! DOOOONGGGG!!
Always sac the exchange
Bteo..... ishop to e 1 BTEO beteo means bite off y teeny toe...
Ben Finegold , a great chess player, a terrible comedian. haha... jk we love you Ben.
I agree. Obviously knowledgeable about chess, not funny. Show us a game where you're a piece down, but you have two connected passed pawns. Show us the correct way to win a game like that.
i cant believe there actually 6 disikes. there should be like, -1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Ok, I'll add another right now!
People underestimate the value of a bishop because the value of controlling a diagonal is not valued properly. A bishop can challenge a queen on a diagonal while a rook cannot. Rook 4.6 Bishop 4.3 Queen 9.0 "Chess Secrets The Value Of The Pieces" on you tube. Great video, thanks Mr. Finegold.
Well, a rook can challenge a queen on a rank/file while a bishop cannot, and last time I checked, there are 8 ranks and 8 that both have 8 squares to control, while there are only two long diagonals, both only 7squares. Sorry, but it should be Queen: 9.0, Rook: 5.0, Bishop, 3.1, Knight 3.0, King, 3.5.
See my video "Chess Secrets The Value Of The Pieces" and then make an informed decision. Thanks for your comment.
My Diametrical u are silly
Terrible vs Horrible
Even though these two words are used interchangeably, they are not synonyms. In fact, their meaning are quite different. Simply put, horrible is associated with a feeling of outrage; while terrible is associated with a feeling of dread or terror.
If they're used as synonyms then they're synonyms. Language is not prescriptive. However people use it is what is correct.
In my opinion Ben qualified to be called both.
.... checkmate is annoying
And final!
lmaoooo
LOL i can stand right here, all blacks pieces are over there. Instant classic
Bb7 and Nb8 just looks ugly. Usually black plays 0-0, Bg5 and meets a4 with ba4 and Rb8.
lol
Finegolds pistol
Finegolds Folley.
how do you even cheat in chess? ..lol...
Wireless communication with someone operating a chess engine to recommend the optimum move.
+arbitterm But where to hide the receiver? Aren't they checked for gadgets before the matches?
Usually, yes. The one case I read about used a tiny earpiece which is very popular amongst certain students (i.e. those cheating in exams). A walk-through airport detector would not find it, and a hand-operated scanner would need to be set to high sensitivity and directly scan the ear. Plus, the device could always be planted at the scene in advance.
The way I've seen used most frequently is when your opponent makes a move that isnt legal or possible. You sit there in shock wondering what to do.
too american for me xD
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