Star Wars: Arquitens Class Light Cruiser - Ship Breakdown
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
- Spacedock looks into the venerable Arquitens Class Light Cruiser.
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A Star Wars ship that has the same number of guns on the ventral hull as the dorsal hull? We're breaking new ground here. :)
Well the Harrower-Class did it first.
With those sponson turrets, it looks as if she were intended to engage in broadside engagments, rather than going head-on like most KDY designs. It also means she can brig equally powerful broadside barrages to both sides of the hull symultaniously or engage targets from almost any arc around her except her rear arc. That said, she still has the large, obvious and highly exposed bridge that just screams 'Put Torpedos Here'
Evan Sadly the Harrower isn't canon..... :(
Who cares if it's canon anymore or not. We're just discussing the ships.
Besides, most Star Wars fans have effectively decided "forget what is or isn't "official" anymore just enjoy everything you enjoy". It's turned in the direction of Star Trek where people have just established personal canons now.
weldonwin From what I can tell from the limited images I've seen of KDY designs (ISDs, Victory SDs, etc) their side cannon emplacements (not the barbuttes, the ones in the edges though the original barbuttes were not shown as superfiring) were mounted age of sail broadside style with very limited firing arcs (22.5 deg to either side of perpendicular from the edge of the hull for roughly 45 deg total arc each). They don't look to have a wide enough arc to be able to focus straight ahead at a single target point, I think at best they could set up a volley line of fire forwards.
It actually takes three-dimensional space into account. Almost feels strange.
Erika Söderlund Almost. The only thing I hate about it is the stupid jutting bridge. Way too exposed. Otherwise a beautiful design.
Whoa, hiding the bridge is cheating. Where else would you put the glaring weak spot.
Comrade Taiwan all ships in Star Wars have exposed bridges.. kinda the norm
@@pacificstatesofamerica It's meant to show how exposed bridges moved on from the Republic era to the reign of the Empire.
@@tongtalks5123 I know. Justified or not, It's why I think the Republic ships might look cooler to me but I'd rather take command of, say, a Battlestar any day. It's just a stylistic choice that has a nice explanation.
And now the flagship of moff Gideon
So far. He could have a much larger flag ship hanging out there somewhere. Very exciting stuff.
Consider he's running a secret research program on board, it could also be a matter of convenient. A small light cruiser can hide in a remote region much easier than a Star Destroyer.
@@angry_eck There is nothing cannon on it's size. Right now it being ~400m+ is speculation. It has every hallmark of the Arquitans. It's an Arquitans.
Sure would be a shame if someone were to shoot it with a Proton Torpedo.
Speaking of Gideon's cruiser. I just realized that it may be a direct sister ship to that of the Thunder Wasp mentioned in this video. Since it is mentioned it carried a squadron of fighters on board. Kind of like Gideon's Cruiser.
I really love the Arquitens. It’s a brilliant looking ship and it’s effective too.
Agreed my friend!
For me ex aequo with the acclamator (one of my fav ship)
This is my favorite ship in Star Wars
It’s definitely not effective in Republic At War...
same, love it especially because it feels like it would be easier to retrofit than most; would definitely go with the Thunderwasp refit or at least something that would give a light precision strike with fighters/bombers then get out fast.
A small ship at 300+ meters. Roughly the size of a USN aircraft carrier just for perspective.
Or smaller, barring wookieepedia errors.
Which I am now VERY confident is the case...
With the Size of the ship compared the bridge, which I'm the top deck, I'm guessing roughly 25 Meters, potentially more, that would roughly mean that it's probably 150-200 meters. But hey, what do I know?
And it’s a light cruiser. Which means it’s the 2nd smallest ship in the fleet other than a destroyer
@@MrOliverLyons tecnically its a frigate.. tought Star Wars naming classifications is bananas (they have called cruisers corvettes and even an assault transport)
I just have to say that I'm loving the new thumbnails in your latest videos that shows the schematics of the ships/vehicles, it's simply amazing
Can you review Moff Gideon's Arquitens? His looks different / heavily upgraded compared to the standard Arquitens.
His seems much bigger than the Arquintens that we’ve seen in TCW and Rebels, since it has a decently sized hanger that can even hold a Lambda-class
It's most likely a newer version of the arquitens
@@otavio8566 arquintens 3.0
@@CmdrShepard95 Differently laid out and larger bridge as well.
Is it even an arquitens? I know they look highly similar, it's just that Gideon's cruiser is way too big to be one, and there's a hanger, I wouldn't be surprised if it was a new ship designed to either replace or work with the old arquitens.
Clone Wars designs are always the best.
They had the plot armor
@@Centaurus_L4 I believe they ment aesthetically, not raw strength, could be wrong though.
@@apassionatenerd.3564 If you think of it they may have had both.
Essentially the cis
Imagine if used these ships and simply hyper drived straight into the invisible hand
My favorite ship from my Favorite sci-fi channel what more could i want?
I suspect a certain, Imperial historian by the name of Arthur Prowse may be quite fond of this breakdown. Well done, Spacedock. Your service to the Empire is most commendable.
Any fond memories of the Thunderwasp there, Grand Admiral?
1:44 The side-mounted weapons were removed on Imperial versions.
It should also be noted apparently all the guns can be retracted on the Arquitens, hence why we don’t see all the guns sometimes
@@sirboomsalot4902
I’d assume they were just completely removed on the Imperial variants because we don’t see them anywhere in rebels
@@TheGibusDemo probably to spare some effort for the animators
@@TheGibusDemo (I don't remember where I read this so you're just gonna have to fact check me on this one) Some of the Imperial Arquitens have their side turrets replaced with hangar bays able to fit 2-4 TIEs. This is probably because since the turrets were designed to fully retract inside the ship, it became very spacious once the turrets are removed then Imperials repurposed these as hangar bays. If we add the additional 3 fighters that are able to be stored in the front of the ship, the Arquitens can practically serve as a light carrier, having 11-19 Starfighters in total.
Beautiful. An almost perfect vessel. And The Mandalorian introduces what might well be an entirely new refit the resolves some of the inherent issues of the original!
What I've always admired about these vessels was the clever arrangement of their armament. They have the casemate-mounted heavy turbolasers for ship-to-ship combat, in keeping with the Star Wars fancy of broadsiding each other. (Impractical in space? Perhaps... but it looks great!) And having versions with quad laser cannons or twin light rubolasers in turreted hull positions gives these vessels a surprisingly well considered range of anti-starfighter coverage. Concussion missiles complete the typical armament and really make this class stand out as something of the Oliver Hazard Perry frigates of their universe.
And with individual refits like the Thunderwasp and Moff Gideon's personal cruiser having internal hangar spaces accessible by the ventral hull and running the split prow, this class is transformed into everything an escort/patrol cruiser needs to be to police the untamed space of the Outer Rim or run convoys along their routes. What a lovely ship!
Did you notice that there were green turbolasers in the last episode but a red bolt destroyed the Razorcrest?
If I was in the empire/republic navy, this is the ship I’d want to command.
Shadow Star58, Same.
Agreed. It's impressive.
Yes it is not too big that it is hard to command but it has a large amount of fire power that can desolate rebel/seperatist forces
Same
I love these; beautiful ships that are also as practical and workmanlike as a Star Wars style ship can be.
(Gah, that exposed bridge, makes me want to open photoshop and paint it out every time I see it).
Thanks for covering this one.
The exposed bridges are part of the visual theme of the setting. Just like the gun turrets inspired by WW2 era bombers in smaller ships and massive manned cannons in bigger ones or the unnecessary deep pits in stations and buildings. It bugs me as well but it comes with the show and changing the ships into more "realistic" designs is something that is best left to a more realistic setting. SW is fun and at this point sticking to the aesthetic is better than trying to make exceptions to it.
What are you talking about? It ain't a Star Wars ship if it doesn't have exposed bridges.
This has held up surprisingly well after squadrons and the mandalorian
If I'm not mistaken, the Mandalorian Series may have just brought in this ship as part of Moff Gideon’s fleet
Not only as a part of his fleet. This was his flagship.
@@zilbal2367 it's too small as the Star Destroyer but big enough for Gideon for his purpose,
And this ship has made it into the Mandalorian.
I'd say not exactly this ship
Here's something that bugs me about the Empire and their supposed obsession with keeping to the Tarkin Doctrine: If they believe that being over-reliant on fighter superiority goes against the Tarkin Doctrine, why do they obsessively equip even their smallest ship classes, like the Dreadnought-class or the Arquitens (which logically shouldn't be able to carry fighters at all), with fighter docking/launching facilities instead of just using dedicated carrier ships?
Emiel Booth so they could have tie fighters in Rebels without spending money on a new carrier model
Because having small guns on a warship also goes against the Tarkin doctrine (point defense? what is point defense?) but you can't hit anything smaller than a corvette with a massive dual heavy turbolaser cannon so they had no choice... The Empire and logical space combat don't mix ^^
The small ships usually serve patrol duties and need to be self reliant with their own fighters if they are attacked
Here doing research on Moff Gideon
Man I love this channel. I remember these ships. I hated them trying to smuggle things in to planets...
Not a patch on the old Falcon then I take it?
Imagine if the Empire had at least 20 Arquitens and Raiders at Endor. They could've won easily
The fleet was ordered by sidious to hold position they could have crushed the aliance but that wasn‘t their task.
they probably had those.. along Interdictors and some battlecruisers
Tenno Shenaniganizer
No, they needed to replace a few ISD’s with a hundred Lancer Frigates.
lancer737
I disagree highly. It would be technically a heavy blow to the Empire if Palpatine dies, that is for sure (although that too could have been easily avoided if the Imperator was not misreading Vader mind), but if the Imperial Navy had been able to repell the attack on the Death Star by using another tactic and fleet composition there would have been after that no more Rebel Alliance to celebrate victory. The Empire would not have lost the many First Grade officers on board of the Executor and would have still have all the men and ressources invested into the Second Death Star, while its main enemy would be more or less whipped out. Surely Mon Mothma would be able to rally new support, but that would have needed time. And since the Imperial leadership would have been more or less intact besides Vader and Palpatine (no loss of Admirals or Grand Admirals) I think the Empire would have not suffered so much infighting after the death of Palpatine like in Canon/Legends. I think it is much more likely that a replacement group of high ranking officers would have kept the story of Palpatines and Vaders death secret for a while until they had secured their grip on power, hunting down rebel cells with the intel they gathered from captured terrorists and boarded ships. They also would have the DS 2 as a great tool to scare local systems into submission who may dare to think about revolting after finally the news of the death of Palpatine would become public. It may be that the Empire would have been collapsed later because of infighting, but surely the civil war would have been continued for much longer and the rebel alliances maybe never would have gathered the strength to re-vitalized thNew Republic. The last "new Jedi" and his sister the terror princess would have been either dead or captured, as would be Admiral Ackbar and most other high ranking leaders of the alliance, nearly all their Mon Cal ships gone...
And current canon says that with the death of Palpatine, the empire dies as well.....he actively set up a scheme to do as much damage to the empire as he could when he died. Legends says he was using battle meditation at Endor, so when he died the Imperial forces were in disarray. The second the Death Star is destroyed the Imperial forces as vast as they are were demoralized. Without a strong leader, even though they still had amazing resources, they panic. The entire Empire, in both legends and canon, is so top heavy that strong leaders didn't exist outside of Palpatine and Vader.
Well if it isn't Spacedock with their slick editing, superb scripts and the ever entertaining Alasdair hiding in the rafters to swoop in. Ha! Wait......this was meant to be insulting.....dammit!
One of my absolute favorite light cruisers/heavy corvettes, although I'm also a fan of the Charger c70 retrofit because of its ease of use as a hero ship, base crew of 9 for its abilities is very strong.
Moff Gideons ship!!!
Hands down my favourite star wars capital ship. It's a perfect suggestion of what a Republic era cruiser sized star destroyer would be, and with such versatility.
My third favourite ship from Star Wars
Acclamator class being 1st
Venitor being second
And now it's Moff Gideon's ship. Not a bad callback. Glad you made this because I was stumped trying to identify it in the show.
crew: 750... or about 10 guys in Rebels
Crew is actually listed at 100. No idea where they got 750.
@@iflyxwings still down to 10 in Rebels
@@sparrowlt i mean there is more for maintaining the ship like the engine, life support, monitoring ther cameras, energy and fuel, etc
@@skybot7091 agreed.. but in Rebels, probably due to budget restrictions , every time you saw one of this it seemed like barelly crewed.. same for the Rebel ships.. actually worst for those.. there is one incident where an Interdictor captures a corvette and when they escape they rescue the crew and its literally 3 guys..the same 3 guys seen before in the bridge
@@sparrowlt Maybe the rest of the ships are manned by AI or droids nobody cares for and they just left the droids behind due to some plot filled reason.
Probably my favorite ship that was made for the Clone Wars TV show.
Another excellent video Spacedock. If I were to improve on the Arquitens Light Cruiser, I’d add another 25 meters to the ship so that it can house extra turbolasers, point defense turrets, lower profile bridge area, defense turrets around the bridge area & around the engines to mitigate any attacks from enemy craft, escape pods, areas for troops & blasters, & that’s all I can think of that I would to to improve the Arquitens Light Cruiser.
I'd add to that a moving of the sponson mounted turbolasers in to a mounting with wider firing arcs as well, but beyond that, I agree.
Move the turrets to the centre line for better firing arcs. And an internal hangar bay.
I loved seeing this ship in Mandalorian, such a beautiful ship class
One of my favorite ships in the star wars series, great break-down
I NEED, desperately, a Ship Breakdown of the Arquitens Class Command Cruiser as presented in The Mandalorian. That is, if it is as different from the original Arquitens as its Wookiepedia article implies.
Larger has a hanger with forward launch tube (Gundam fan this makes me happy)
@@OrDuneStudios yep, after seeing the season finale, its pretty obvious it's nearly a different ship altogether.
2:05 In the episode he mentioned something about some vessels that were retrofitted to have a large internal hangar, such as the "thunder wasp." Could be one of those
Beautiful ship, Moff’s is apparently a modified larger version; the extra 4 engines, 2 hangar bays in the bottom rear of the wedge that appear to be 3-4 levels in height based on windows. The bridge is very large, in the scene when the hologram appears the bank of lights above the seated operators is actually another row of operations behind that closest group, briefly you can see an operator sitting down in the far background. Can’t wait to see more details of the vessel and new areas of the interior.
Out of curiosity do you have the source on this? I was under the impression is was the same ship, just more defined in live action or the MKII version.
@@ryanmadsen4063
The source was Wookiepedia but since last week someone went in and really changed everything, adding all this info from Rebels and I don’t know why but they removed a description in the TIE paragraph mentioning that Sector Moff’s and Imperial High officials would have a larger modified ship with more powerful engines and install a hangar bay in the lower aft hull for full squadron of TIE’s. They either weren’t paying attention or were going to create a new ship classification for Moff’s. Obviously the show runners were using the previous class description concerning the modified command variant when designing Moff’s.
In a fan blog I came across an argument with niche fans saying the Arquiten Class wasn’t near large enough to have an internal hangar let alone big enough for a full squadron, yet one fan pointed out in a Thrawn novel it mentions these larger command cruisers and why no one modifies Wiki to include this; we have proof of them being canon with appearance of Moff’s ship in Mandalorian.
I’m sure in the coming months someone at Lucasfilm will create a entry for Moff’s Command Ship.
@@tysonas1 I wouldn't think they would be larger, much how an ISDMKII is no bigger than the MK1. Better weapons(though it doesn't look like it), more armor, but the same hull ultimately. Arquitens' were always 325m IIRC, the hull design lasting through the clone wars and the empire. A large hanger bay is what I saw last episode. 325 meters is ample room to equip a modest hanger bay. And the way it was designed it looked like it didn't take over too much of the ship that would be used for other things. Assuming the hanger opening was 1/6th of the ships 325 meters you could still launch 6 ties wing to wing and have some room to spare.
One of my faverites ships because its a resonable size and good and looks good
Could you do more of the battle breakdown sort of videos? Because I found them very entertaining.
And apparently still in service to the imperial remnant.
As a teen. I found the Arquiten Class interesting and that interest hasn't faded.
A Venator, paired with multiple arquitens class cruisers. What fun!
Great video again One of my favourite Light cruisers If they could of have a Ton of these in the Battle of Endor it would of tipped the battle towards their Victory
How about more from this same era? Pelta class please?
The Arquitens is one of my favorite ship types. It and the Raider corvette are two very well versed ships that the imperials should have used way more then overly resources intensive star destroyers
And now we get to see a live action version in The Mandalorian (S2E4)
Which has four smaller engines located between the other main engine nacelles.
@@NewtypeCommander 25 years after production refits refurbs I assume
I never understand justify the counter argument of outdated ship in a galactic world. As i understand, technology in Star War are in a stand still and such a ship only "outdated" to the doctrine of the user and not by any technological means. Also how quick are ship build in SW ? A ship serving for 30 years is very short if you compare it on a galactic standard.
Technology does advance.
The empires tech is notably better than either the C.I.S or the Republic. Heck military tech actually advances faster than in real life.
When they say out dated in star wars what they actually mean is an old ship simply isn't worth using anymore when it is just easier to make a more advanced ship.
You can shove in as many upgrades as you want but in the end older ships simply cannot compete with the newer hardware on newer ships.
@@anthonyrodriguez6456 That's not entirely true. Take the real-world Perry-class frigates. Australia has maintained them far longer than they were ever _intended_ to operate, but that's because we appreciate the particularly resilient hull design and the relative lack of armament potential is not a problem to a nation leading the world in naval electronic system technology.
The only reason Australia is set to retire our Perry-class frigates is because we can no longer acquire spare parts for them at a decent price. This was the same situation which forced us to retire our F-111C and F-111G fleet ten years ahead of the projected retirement date -- we go shafted by the USA's military industry refusing to provide the spare parts they were contractually obligated to continue producing. Moreover, we were unable to secure the license to produce our own parts because of international patent laws.
The Arquitens hull has a lot of room for upgrade potential. As the penultimate light cruiser, it could easily be refitted with improved engines, avionics (or the exoatmospheric equivalent of the term) and weapon systems. While improved reactors would be difficult to adapt into an older hull, everything else can be.
Even if you retire all old Arquitens-Class hulls, there is plenty of reason to introduce an Improved Arquitens-Class designed around the new technology. The hull itself is the perfect form for a light cruiser.
It's one of the things that contrasts Star Wars with Star Trek. In ST, most spacefaring powers like the Federation or Klingons find effective designs and keep them for decades at the minimum (usually 50 - 70 years). In some cases, a design is used for well over a century, such as the Miranda-class and Excelsior-class. The ships are modular, so they could be refitted with newer torpedoes, newer phasers, upgraded shields, updated star charts and navigation computers, etc. Older ships are kept in reserve and are relegated to core world patrols, consular ships, science ships, auxiliary defense, etc.
ST approach to ship design, logistics, and politics is generally a bit more grounded than that of Star Wars.
So some people are asking about Gideon's ship and given the time period I dont think his is a standard model and is a heavily modified ship. I wouldn't surprise me if the ship was given to him by Thrawn
If it's good enough for Moff Gideon, it's good enough for me.
I really love this ship. It has one of the best designs I've seen in the Republic navy, and I love how it's a beautiful hybrid of the Venator class's wedge shape and the engine section of the Consular class.
Thank you somebody who actually puts into perspective they say this ship can hold one shuttle and a handful of Tie fighters but when you look at it in the Mandalorian show it is positively fucking massive
A heavy turbo laser canon fixed in the front docking clamp section would add some tactical usefulness to the design making them useful small and fast artillery in ship to ship combat or potentially as an small orbital weapon for ground invasions.
Great video! I love the Arquitens-class cruiser.
my bountyhunter gang in my headcannon uses an arquitens with the quads being updated to specially modified heavy quad turbolasers, still keeping the 4 dual turbolaser batteries
This is an awesome design- just the right size to be the setting for a TV show, too!
The interview with KDY must of went like this
KDY owner; “so, you want a perfectly useful ship that can not only carry 500+ star fighters, but can also land on planets, can help in invasions and has decent fire power, and you want to make it a freighter and replace it with a bigger worse version then it”
Palpatine: “yeeeessss”
KDY owner: “not ONLY that, you want to keep prediction on a small frigate that barely has any weapons, can carry 3 fighters and has a slower hyperdrive”
Palpatine: “yep”
KDY: “that’s just stu-“
Palpatine: “ *I have spoken* “
Beautiful design!
Would love to see some more Battlefleet Gothic ship videos. The dependable Lunar class cruiser, and the imposing Emperor class battleship from the Imperial Navy perhaps? Or maybe even a Tau ship?
Coming here after watching the Mandalorianm nice to learn more about Moff Gideon's ship.
I’ve always been a big fan of the “Imperial” style of ship designs, but I think this one might be one of my new favorites. It’s still recognizably an Imperial ship, but it looks far more sleek than most of the others. It’s the kind of design that looks like it’s going fast even when standing still, in a similar way to the Normandy SR-2 from Mass Effect. Absolutely love it.
my favorite ship in star wars, fantastic design
Love the ship, and the Star Wars Forced Unleashed music!! Keep up the great work Daniel and Spacedock crew
Sounds like this class of ship is this continuity's version of either the Victory Class Star Destroyer or the Strike Class cruiser (both from the old EU, now Legends). Sounds closer to the latter then the former, since Strike class cruisers could carry a squadron of ties & had roughly the same armament as this IIRC. I don't think the Strike Class cruisers go into the atmosphere of planets, while the older Victories (Victory 1s) could.
Gorgeous design.
Love seeing these beauties up close on Battlefront 2 at the Fondor Shipyard Battle.
Thanks for this video, love the Arquitens Light Cruiser, it's one of my favourite ships.
Have you ever played Space Engineers? If so, I’d want to hear your opinion on the best possible ship design.
Very Good ship video
This ship is one of my favorite vessels in Star wars.
Length: 325 Meters so that makes it 25 meters longer than a Nebulon B class frigate which doesn't seem consistent to me
SSG Apple Why not? Cruisers are usually larger than Frigates?
Foxhound Since Imperial Light Cruiser can fit in a ISD hanger bay like the CR-90 Corvette now picture a Nebulan-B class Frigate in a ISD hangar bay in a New Hope the hangar bay seems to be perfectly fit able for the CR-90 corvette and in the clone wars tv show a Light Cruiser was in a Venator's hanger bay so by the given Lengths Imperial Light Cruiser > Nebulan-B > CR-90 Corvette if you can imagine a Nebulan B fitting in a ISD hanger bay with a straight face then I don't know what to tell you.
SSG Apple Oh, thanks for clearing that up for me! 😅
SSG Apple
Are you sure that wasn't a Consular class corvette in there?
Feyascia Mercurial No Consular Class Corvette was like only shown once in the Phantom menace in a Lukrehulk battle station also when I said hanger bay I meant the hull or big empty square at the bottom of the ISD.
My precious Arquitens gunline in Armada thanks you for this video! :)
This is good ! I would like a personal on at just 45 Meters though . Vulture Droids for safety , small Shuttle , and capable to land on a planet. Nice interior , nice exterior paint job, and some ways to defend it.
Love how you have a battlezone 2 song as an intro you really should do more videos on the ships in that game
One of my absolute favorite Star Wars ships.
This ship is also in Squadrons, You destroy and defend them in the Story and in Fleet Battles supporting the Star Destoyer.
The Arquitens was one of my fav ships ever since I first saw it in Rebels.
my favorite light cruiser
is this what Moff Gideon was using? Looks pretty similar at least
He has a larger version
Been wanting this for a while, thanks spacedock
A very beautiful and effective ship.
Such a beauty
Ah, love this ship to bits. Great looking and actually makes some sort of sense, at least in SW terms
Great vid Daniel
Tbh this is my favorite design of a light cruiser. But the bridge needs to be modified so it'll be lower just like on the resurgent class star destroyer and close the front gap in favor of launching ships from the sides just like on Gideon's light cruiser.
Man the amount of people on Star Wars ships always makes me think about how many die due to the Rebels. I mean the Phoenix Crew blows up lots of Arquitens and Star Destroyers. And you're saying that there is max 850 people on one Arquitens? That is nearly 1000 dead, and they just blow up ship after ship willy nilly. Yet its a nice kids and Ezra isn't a mass murderer.
Well, of course there may be some who escape this bunch of terrorists (although you rarely see escape-pods), but that is the same sick fact you see in a lot of movies. If it are the "bad guys" than mass murder is no problem. The "heroes" could make their lame jokes the next moment or hugg their droids - never spending a single thought about all the brothers, sisters, mothers, fathers, sons and daughters they had killed - people who in most parts were never cruel nor "bad", just make their living by serving the government. But if the "bad guys" DARE to kill some "good guys" it is of cause often celebrated as it is the greates tragic...
It is called war, people die in such things. If you kill millions of unarmed civillians (lets say like aldreaan) that is a crime, killing the enemy soldiers? Thats everyday buisnes in war.
Like Marc Krieger said, it's war, the crew complement of a warship are considered soldiers, enemy combatants, and therefore fair game. This means they will die when the ship is destroyed or even badly damaged. Remember, the franchise is called Star WARS, not Star Let's-Hug-It-Out. Mass death of combatants on both sides will be a part of it.
The rebellion is not war, it is more guerilla/terrorism (who is a "freedom-fighter" and who a criminal depends on the point of view). And I have not the impression that the rebels did take the losses of their own man so lightly...
If destroying Alderan was a warcrime depends of course also on the defenition. Alderan was a world which was active part of a galaxy-wide conspiracy and main supply-hub for the rebellion. So you may argue (and the Imperials did so) that it was surely not innocent. There were Alderanian ships at Scarif...
Bail Organa himself said he wanted to return to tell "the people" that there would be "no peace".
His will was granted. Tarkin send him and Alderaan the same message.
That mean not that it was ok (destroying a planet or its population is stupid and cruel - of course also if the Jedi and the Republic did it, what they does), but it is also not the greatest crime in Star Wars History...
Well the Empire was depicted as bad guys in the Star Wars franchises and they did do a lot of bad. But they did bring a subtable order to the galaxy, and providing a Police Force to world's in need.
Hands down one of the coolest designs.
We see one of these in a Battlefront game, the 2nd one. It's pretty impressive. I like it as a design.
Awesome! Please do a review on the Subjugator-class heavy cruiser and the Recusant-class light destroyer.
It seams the Arquitens combines the shape of the Venator, the size of the CR-90 and the forked bow of the Harrower dreadnaught.
If this ship is really 325m long (which I'm not entirely sold on given how large or small it looks in the shot with Consular charger refit in TCW), I feel like the ship is a bit too under armed for its size.
This does not apply if it's much smaller though--if this is around or below 200m long, I think it's a pretty good upgrade over the Consular charger refit.
Anyway, it's got 4 ~~twin~~ (correction,) quad turbolaser turrets (2 each for top n bottom), and 4 twin broadside casemate-like turrets of presumably much more limited firing angles (2 on each side).
The turbolasers it has may be powerful, but it seems to lack weapons of smaller caliber like laser canons that can fend off small enemy crafts. Not too much of a problem for the Clone wars era one, perhaps, as it seems to be able to dedicate the ventral & dorsal turrets for anti-air defense (assuming that clone wars Arquitens can use them for AA defense like in Rebels) while using the side turrets for anti-(larger)shipping combat (I'm guessing they can fire forward like the trench turbolasers on ISDs)...... but for the Imperial Command Cruiser variant which doesn't have the 4 twin side turrets (I wonder if all Arquitens in the Imperial Navy lost their side turrets), it now has only 4 turrets, *only 4,* despite being almost three times as large as the Consular refit (which is around 116m long and has 6 turrets in its TCW appearence, albeit, I think, of much lower yields). That's just lacking in versitility, it seems to me. Imagine a WW2 cruiser, heavy or light, or hell, any surface-combat ships larger than a destroyer (I'm considering Consular as a real life ww2 destroyer equivalent for convinience sake) with four main turrets and nothing else--you cannot (just kidding), because that's freaking insane. No, even if these are dual purpose, you don't want to have just four of those and call it a day, especially when you are at least as large as a light cruiser. Where are the small/intermdiary AAA? Is the ship's targeting system so good that you can depend the life of a 325m long ship (which I think is not very small even by Star Wars standards) on 4 quad turbo lasers? Any thoughts?
This is all just based on my intuition though, not on hard data (it's Star Wara after all), and this subject of the numbers and varieties of armament per size may be a whole can of worms that we may not want to open... *cough cough* ISDs.... *cough* Venators
Really like this class of ship though, and doubly so if it's just a bit, or twice as large as a Consular.
One of my favorites
When I first saw this, I couldn't tell if this was from Kuat or Corellia because it had the engines of the Phantom Menace corvette.
In republic at war I've matched 4 arquitens up with 3 aclimators and usually am able to take down lucrehulk battleboats haha! Of course I take a few anti fighter cruisers with too
Thanks for the content.
Ngl…
Definitely my fav imperial AND republic ship, and potentially even in all of star wars. If not my fav in the universe, it’s definitely up there.
I believe you are confusing the Arquiten-class light cruiser with the Imperial light cruiser. The Arquiten was only 280 meters long on first design and refit to accommodate fighters on the forward forks after the formation of the empire. Extra armor was added to the hull to increase longevity but sacrificed its point defense weaponry. In addition to the two quad laser batteries on the dorsal and ventral hull the Arquiten was also armed with two dual turbolaser batteries on the left and right lateral line as well as 2 concussion missile launchers. These were later removed to increase crew compliment. The main role of the Arquiten was to move fast and punch hard through droid blockades and land troops on the ground then provide command and control and ground support for troops while the fleet battled above. After the empire took over they were repurposed as sector patrol ships.
Pfft where's the comments by Templin Institute and ErkhartsLadder
This is my favorite ship
I love that ship.
That last bit about being found in the hands of private forces or pirates is particularly prescient seeing it’s now been featured as the flagship of the fledgling Mandalorian fleet.
Probably my most favorite ship in the Star Wars universe.
I never understood why- I but just love this ship so much, it really seems like escort that is worthy of defending a Star Destroyer.
One of the all time coolest ships in Star Wars!!!!