This feels like the real life equivalent of that Skyrim quest where you wake up after getting drunk and have to figure out what the heck you did while under the influence.
I think that happened to me the very first time I found one in FO3, it was scary and incredible. I managed to get all the way to Old Olney or whatever it's called without ever seeing or fighting one, and then one runs at me I'm thinking oh shit oh shit oh shit what is that and it just zooms up in to the sky. But it fell down and died, so that was lucky. "Tap tap tap" "What's that noise?" The second Deathclaw which instantly killed me. And then when I reloaded the most recent save the first Deathclaw was fine and didn't do it's magic trick so I had to run away from TWO. And that is why Fallout 3 is still my favourite. So much chaos.
also Jon: makes a shitty video kissing Bugthesda's ass regarding F3 so he could make it to a greenbriar event to playtest fallout 76, shitting on New Vegas, a game he loved in the process.
@@ptbunz2501 having played the 360 version recently, FO3 and NV actually hold up rather well vs PS3. I believe the 360 is 720p native with 4X MSAA, almost completely hiding the jaggies. A lot of people played the PS3 copy which lacked AA and it looked really bad from it.
To be fair to past Jon, one aspect about New Vegas is that it is constantly throwing quests at you. While trying to complete one, you wind up starting 3 or 4 more. He probably tried to complete side quests as soon as he got them, which meant the main quest had to be put on the backburner.
Surely, somebody out there could check by replaying Fallout 3 and help Jon in his quest to solve that mystery. Which brave hero will heed this call?🤔 Edit: Me five🤣
I think we've all woken up in a casino and concluded "I apparently chose to murder everyone in the building. I wonder why?" It's a modern rite of passage.
Watching Jon trying to figure out the casino situation is like that one episode of literally every sitcom, where the protagonist has no memory of something and tries to piece together what happened from clues. Except the only clue is that the whole casino is dead. And instead of figuring out what happened, Jon just freaks out.
My head-canon is that Fisto malfunctioned and violently...."Fisto'd" them all to death,Jon and Jamieson being the sole survivors who had to put him down....
I've still got my white PS1 memory card from the FFVIII collectors edition, got no PlayStation to check it on now though. I know there was a Pandemonuim save, a Metal Gear Solid save, a Destruction Derby save and obviously FFVII and FFVIII saves, but no idea how far each is or what else it may contain. I just know it's where I kept the backup saves for my favourite games.
am I the only one who meticulously keeps save files? I often transfer all that stuff when I build a new computer. Though I know I don't have saves from any games I played in the 90's, I probably didn't know how to transfer the files in those days.
Most of this video is you staring at a pipboy, deciphering your actions from 2010 and I'm still watching with fascination and intrigue. I love this channel so much my god.
Jon NV has achievements for killing (x) npcs with a certain weapon type. My guess is you wanted to get the unarmed one and went sicko mode on innocent casino people
I think I know why jon slaughtered the atomic wrangler!! Back in the day the 360 version had a game breaking bug where if you took francine Garretts quest to collect debts, and were told to get the hat from the fella out front of gommorah it would soft lock your game at the north vegas gate. Jon probbably read a online post, or saw it in some form of media that their quest creates that soft lock, so he slaughtered the quest giver, and all their alliesd npcs, to fail it, thus being able to enter vegas propper, removing the soft lock. I myself ran into that crash happy gate in my first letsplay and was a ludicrous level when I finally stepped foot on the strip, including at least one of the dlc.
Just imagine looking back through an old photo album, and there's one picture of you surrounded by corpses, holding a bloody weapon. You don't remember it at all, that would be horrifying.
Young Jon clearly knew the inherent joy in keeping everything all the time. What if you want to use that unique weapon at some point? What if you want to pick up literally everything not nailed down? Every character I ever made has gotten Strong Back and this will continue until the day I die!
My mistake in New Vegas was putting points in charisma, and being a gun character that didn't have very good gun perks. And I remember wasting a load of time by reloading and overwriting my save because I thought I locked myself into the House ending by upgrading the Securitrons. Also I played it on an unpatched 360 version which was a mistake in itself.
First time I played Vegas was a couple years after launch. My brother had been playing from launch and promised me charisma was the best to max... never forgotten never forgiven
At least it wasn't an unpatched ps3 version I suppose. I believe that's the only version that faced even further downgrades and is overall the most unstable.
@@theepicduck6922 I played FO3 on the PS3 with no internet connection and the original disk install only and never saw any glitches or crashes. Or course, it did not include any of the DLC content, either. I thought it was so good that I think I've become a total Fallout 3/NV/4 addict. :) And it seems that, on the Playstation's, the PS3 were stable, while Fallout 4 crashes some on the PS4 and crashes ALOT on the PS4 Pro.
You may be right - it's quite possible that I took an old Aria save, converted it for that purpose and then overwrote the original save without thinking...
YES! That was my first thought too! I remember watching that episode REALLY early after finding MATN and wasn't fully paying attention, and suddenly it was a girl, speaking French, and I was very confused. 😂
You make me so happy :) I can't express how much I appreciate you, the warmth and the comfort you bring me after a bad day; thank you for everything, man.
I feel this so much right now bud with my wife kicking me out and wanted a divorce because of another man and MATN is the only UA-camr I’ve been able to watch to make me feel better I appreciate you being able to help bring that out Waxkaz you’re a real mvp for that
@@andrewsmith8715 I started watching his series in 2015, when I had a long stint in the hospital. From his challenge runs all the way into the first FO4 playthrough (I basically learned how to play the game watching his first series on it).
I'm sorry you (and The gaming wanderer) are having such difficult times right now.. Jon's ability to make me smile when everything sucks is truly unparalleled. I've watched a lot of UA-camrs and he's consistently the best for rough days. I hope things look up a bit for y'all soon.
23:03 what we got here is a classic case of saving before an experimental massacre, doing said massacre, then accidentally saving again instead of loading.
@@tournesol99 lol yes. It got so bad he had to make multiple cuts during one ep where he was just getting rid of stuff. Then after many comments he triumphantly declared he took about 30 mins+ to clear some capacity for the rest of the game so people would stop telling him. He opens up the menu and everyone can se he cleared... 15 carrying capacity.
@@inkyGhosty If I recall correctly, he had to do that sort of thing a few times throughout his playthrough and it always had the same result XD For me, I carry one or two bows, the armour I am wearing, some gloves for pickpocketing and the dark brotherhood gauntlets, a few potions, and the black star. That is pretty much all you need when you set out. I appreciate he wasn't a stealth archer, but a battlemage has pretty much no reason to sit at 280-290 weight when they prepare for adventure.
I can't let go of items and very bad at inventory management in Fallout. I once made a build in NV to have the most carrying capacity, and even had Pack Rat. 128 Bighorner steaks in my inventory and that was like 1/8 my inventory
All I remember from my first playthrough was I somehow managed to bumble my way through to a Pimp Boy 3000 without looking up a guide or knowing how to do it at all.
The first time I heard you mention calling your old player characters "Aria", it immediately latched onto my brain and to this day I still find myself naming my characters Aria in Skyrim. No idea why, I just can't think of anything better I guess.
I would have thought, “Aria T’Loak” from Mass Effect 2, but that was still two years out yet. EDIT - John said he didn’t get F3 until after 2010, so maybe?
I often use silly names from back when I was 13 or 14 (this was back in the real old gaming days of the 80's). Not exactly mature names, but they are historical for me. My male characters usually have these names like Thrasher. Though for female characters I usually do try to use an actual name.
Jon goes back in time and captures past Jon, Present Jon: "What did you do in these past Fallout saves"? Past Jon: "You are me from the future and you are asking me about Fallout"? Present Jon: "Yes". Past Jon: "So nothing more important happened over the years"? Present Jon: "Claire Past Jon is being a Dick"! Past Jon: "You are still with Claire"? Claire: "Yes you are being a Dick"!
If I remember correctly. The 360 had an 'Interesting quirk' that if you unplugged it from the mains. The clock and calender reset to the day of the consoles release in 2005. Used to drive me up the wall as it would screw up the order of save files.
@@christopherconard2831 how?! I'm not that good at under the hood stuff but I've heard that most modern computers* don't go before 1-1-1970 so how did yours get 1968?
I still remember finding your channel through the first kotaku article. I have been watching ever since, thank you for the many years of entertainment Jon and Claire
I don't know which one was the first one, but I remember discovering the channel from an article about the no-kill New Vegas run. I think at the time I was looking for games that could be played as a pacifist (either by design or as a self-imposed challenge).
I started watching your channel with "Fallout 3 is Better Than You Think" and now here I am watching you recall your old Fallout 3 playthrough. I feel like I've come full circle.
Jon, there is a case for Strong Back in a first playthrough since you never know what you're going to find out in the world and you never know when you'll be able to get back to base to store it. No one wants to drop something just to come all the way back to retrieve it once the inventory is empty again. Also, Aria looks like she wanted a gun for every ammo type, just in case she ran out of one or wanted to use something different for a while; also a good reason for getting more carry weight.
I can distinctly remember my first New Vegas file. Even on the PS3, the game amazed me. I used the .357 Revolver and the Incinerator an awful lot. Clearly didn't know what I was doing, because I was perpetually running out of ammunition, and not having enough caps to buy more. I recall ending that file outside of the Strip, not able to pass the credit check.
Honestly, your NV playthrough with Aria makes a lot of sense thinking that you were coming from 3. I mean, the story was the least interesting bit of 3. You were taught constantly that if you want to find something cool, you should just ignore the beaten path and explore the map yourself. NV is great, but its more of a flowchart, where all exploration just leads you back to the path at some point. In short, you were trying to playing NV like it was 3, and it made what looks like in hindsight a very strange order of events.
I did exactly this, didn't follow the road and glitched into new Vegas early. Got hated by the NCR cause i didn't get it and never met the Legion once, did everything with Mr House, then killed him for Yes Man and ended the game... Can you believe I thought it was a bad game after that? I still feel dumb over this. I never bought a single gun (as in Fallout 3 everything good is found) never did any DLC, nothing, totally short changed myself for years.
I honestly feel you on your flowchart remark. In all of my playthroughs of NV, I inevitably give up on exploration because I just don't find anything really interesting (and not just in the way of items or weapons, the environment and locations tended to feel bland to me in comparison to the main tour). Additionally, though I haven't seen this come up, I also found that my cross country explorations had the unfortunate issue of being interrupted by oddly placed invisible walls every now and then--I could be crossing what feels like a sensible path that gets me to my destination and then--BAM! Invisible wall that forces me to go the long way around. I don't remember the name of the quest off the top of my head, but it was the one at Bitter Springs where you had to search nearby caves and I just recall finding a nice logical route that led me around the top of the hills only to encounter a wall that forced me down to the lower areas where I had to take so many detours (essentially go the way the devs wanted me to, it seemed). And the funny thing is, I never ran into the 'edge of the world' in Fallout 3 or 4; I was too busy running around the central areas.
@@BananaMana69 How did you do House/Yes Man without meeting the legion? You have to go to The Fort to get into the securitron bunker which is the first thing House tells you to do, you literally have to speak to Caeser as part of that quest
You can do the Yes Man playthrough (although he gets progressively more passive-agressive about upgrading the Fort securitrons) without ever stepping foot in the Fort.
@@StalkingYouMate I guess that was all I did then, i seriously don't remember doing anything with the legion, but i do remember releasing Mr House from his pod thing so I must have just met him the one time i guess. I was dumb, i wanted the fiends and Khans to be just raiders like Fallout 3 and i never realised I could just make them hate me lol. The last thing i remember was going to Jacobstown to get a unique super sledge cause i was still playing like it was Fallout 3 lol. I hated the game cause the NCR hated me and i didnt know I could side with the legion lol. Sorry for subjecting you to my stupidity. Im about ready to start a real playthrough all these years later tho after beating Fallout 1 and 2.
If I had to guess, is say that last save was what you used to go back and do each factions endgame. Like that was the point everything diverged so you could reload it to go through each one. Your saves past that point might have been overwritten as you tried new things
It's funny, just last week I started a new FO3 game because I realized I didn't have any achievements on it since I played it originally on PC so just decided to do the whole thing over and have fun doing them all. So much I had forgotten but also so much that subsequently got improved on from 3 to NV and from NV to FO4. Just a strange step back in time.
My first ever Fallout playthrough was Fallout 4 (I was a bit late to the party, don't judge me). I think I got to a point in the game where I was running into Super Mutants more frequently and I was just so squishy and poorly equipped to deal with them I just abandoned that playthrough and started a new character with some better starting stats. I believe I even used your guide for that!
34:32 It's funny you mention the lack of hotkeys, because I remember distinctly in Fallout NV: YOLO, you learned about hotkeys for the very first time in the middle of the video, back in Vault 11, I believe.
Fallout 3 is so nostalgic for me, The second I heard the sounds of the opening screen I want to replay it or at least watch your video about fallout 3 is better then you think
I'm at 16:45 right now. My guess on why he did the beginning of The Pitt and then gave up and decided to go to Moira's quest (ending up at Dukov's place on his way to Tepid Sewers) was that he decided he wanted to do the DLC (presumably due to the radio broadcast), got to the part just before heading to The Pitt and when told he needed to get a Slave Outfit to wear probably (more or less correctly) assumed he wasn't going to be able to take his armor with him and that caused enough panic that Jon gave up on The Pitt and decided to go do something else.
This video reminds me of my very first playthrough of F:NV. I had gotten the game as soon as it came out (having played FO3, though I don't remember my first playthrough on 3) and went to play. I had decided to play the game without any quest markers or map to tell me where to go (I had fallen in love with my first open world game in FO3) and went on my way. Now, looking back on it I have no idea how the hell I managed it but I went from Goodsprings, trekked across the desert for a few hours (all using only autosaves), and somehow ended up at Vault 34 without ever finding Primm or anybody I could talk to. I, somehow, snuck my way past the geckos into the Vault itself, made it deep within, and died. You need to understand, at this point I had no healing supplies, little armor or weapons/ammo, and I was stuck in a mid-late game area. Yet, somehow, I died not to dmg but to Radiation. I loaded my autosave. I'm back in the middle of the Vault with some 900 or so rads. I cannot leave without dying. I cannot progress without dying. My last actual, non-autosave was hours ago back in Goodsprings. I made a new game the week after.
Oddly enough the first time I played fallout 3 I didn't see a deathclaw until the end of the game in the enclave building. I never saw a single one out in the wild.
This video has made me so happy. It's nice to go back to old games but they're always tainted by what we know now. Mass Effect is a big one for me, wish I could play ME1 for the first time ever, all over again. The nostalgia of these old saves brings back some great memories.
My theory about the NV Brotherhood missions, is that you did There Stands the Grass right before, found the HEPA filters and looked up what they did, found out it was for the brotherhood's quests, and immediately went there
What an absolute treat! Just last night I was watching the MATN FO3 Kill Everything run! It's my favorite UA-cam series of all time and I can't believe you decided to revisit this today! :)
I remember getting this game back in 2008 and exploring the subway. And the DC area as I had lived in DC at the time. Just to see how accurate Bethesda was to real life.
Wasn't there a bit where you had Claire dub over some gameplay of this character doing Boone's mission in a No Kill Alternate Universe? If I recall correctly, its been some time, but Claire dubbed over it in French and I think it was "Episode 17 - Bleed Me Dry" and at the end of the bit Boone was wearing NCR armor. So you might have just saved over it when doing that bit before the finale. Edit: After checking, yes it seems like the timelines line up. So that Aria save file that's oddly places between Kill Everything and No Kill is probably your original Aria save file that was re-used for a bit, possibly to save time leveling a new character to the point they could have all of Boone's loyalty points and be ready to start Bitter Springs. Here's hoping Jon can see this for another great episode of All the Things Jon got Wrong. :)
And Jon, my guess when I re-load into a room full of dead people is usually a result of having botched a pickpocket or literally pressed the wrong button and accidentally shot someone...everyone goes agro and...well... bippity boppity boo, pile of bodies.
To be fair, you were told to end the guy's employment. If you failed the speech check and didn't have a save to load back to, killing the Garrets and everyone marked as hostile after would do it.
I had a deathclaw do that exact same thing in one of my FO3 playthroughs, but it never stabilized and attacked. I could walk right up to where it was appearing and then flying up into orbit.
I'm going to guess the whole mass of quests in New Vegas came from the mistaken belief that The Strip was the end-game, once you found Benny you were locked in and only a few quests short of finishing, so you went to do EVERYTHING else you could, more or less., and at some point ended up inside and realized "Oh, no, there's a whole lot more game left!" and other things including other Fallout projects drew you away.
I'm certain your more recent New Vegas Aria save is from the No Kill run where you alternate universe did I Forgot To Remember To Forget with Claire dubbing it in French. So maybe you didn't do anything with Boone originally and just used that file for the footage because it was the only non-endgame file that wasn't No Kill or Kill Everything. Young Jon making sure everything is a round number is a big mood.
I know I still have my first playthrough saves of 3, 4, NV, even Oblivion and Skyrim. I tend to get these games, go through and 100% them, exploring everywhere and doing everything possible, and then I shelf them and take a long time to go back unfortunately. But thanks to watching a hundred Jon runs, I feel like I played these games a dozen times over
That's too many guns, says Jon, not realizing the true treasure of New Vegas is collecting one of everything. Also the hotkey thing was really funny, since you're definitely guilty of setting up hotkeys and then still going into the menu to change guns and ammo. :P Also also, you can be wild child with the Khans if you kill the ones in the Boulder City Ruins and then make nice with the rest.
I'm pretty sure that the New Vegas playthrough was saved at Bitter Springs with Boone because that was the character you recorded with for the New Vegas No Kill run "alternate universe" where you did the Bitter Springs quest. Going back to the video and the character looks identical to Aria.
Seeing Evil Jon's save file gave me a huge rush of nostalgia. The NV Kill Everything playthrough is how I first found this channel, and it showed me just how much *stuff* there is in the game.
19:26 Evil Jon: reputation "moneygrabber". Yep, being a little greedy was apparently what Evil Jon was notorious for in the Mojave, not like, leaving a hecatomb of bodies strown around the desert 🤣
I sadly lost my first Fallout play-through; played before the DLCs came out -- Seymour Arkend made it passed the Waters of Life and was in the middle of doing the Rivet City history bit when I got trapped in the broken part of the ship when my game glitched and black screened every time I tried to leave. I only had one save, made when I was already inside. Lost that game. I still have my second save, Tiberius Zal, and he finished the game -- I initially thought I would find nothing new, but finding Agatha's Station and Oasis instilled in me a sense of wonder and adventure for the world of Fallout 3 and I explored it extensively. Comparatively, I remember little of my New Vegas play-through -- I never liked New Vegas, but I remembered I was named Solomon Abel and was so happy I could go Independent because New Vegas' marketing made it seem like only NCR (which I hate, having played Fallout 1 and 2) and the Legion (just up-jumped Raiders with good rhetoric) were an option. I remember I burned the NCR at Helios, and balanced my faction reputations so well I walked through all of Hoover Dam without either NCR or Legion attacking me -- they would latter patch this, forcing you to be vilified by at least one of these, but I was playing first release of the game. I used That Machine and Brotherhood Power Armor at the end, and killed Lanius in a one-on-one duel because I was head-cannoning it was too dangerous to let him live.
God, I got a tear in my eye when I saw Evil Jon. My brother showed me Fallout: New Vegas Kill Everything and that got me hooked on your channel. As for why you murdered everyone inside the Atomic Wrangler, it might've been that you had found out about the bug in one of the quests in there.
There's a locker in the Atomic Wrangler backroom containing some guns, maybe Jon tried to steal them, got caught, and decided to not save scum/didn't have an earlier save?
The fact that the genocide save is separate leads me to believe that Jon did what we all do at one point. Drop a save, kill everyone to see if you can and then go back to the previous save. I bet if he checks the bar in the later save everyone will be alive.
Fallout 3 was the first Fallout game I played. It was recommended to me by a coworker because of how much I talked about Skyrim. I restarted my first character twice. The first time was because I forgot to loot in the vault and had nothing to trade for caps once I got to Megaton. The second time was because I was terrible at guns and didn't want to use V.A.T.S because the weapon condition went down so fast and I kept dying. I then discovered the shishkebab and restarted with melee build. Then I did Operation Anchorage and was forced to figure out guns since the melee weapons in that DLC suck and was so excited that I figured it out that I started another character with a gun build. And I have learned so much from you videos and fell in love with the game and still play it!
I started with Fallout 4. Some of my first characters were absolutely pathetic. They'd make an interesting challenge today when I know way more about the game. But for a new player I was just grinding my way to my next suicide.
Fo3 was my first fallout game, second game ever played (1st was original assassins creed), so I did *not* understand how stats worked, how perks worked, nothing. I've recently pulled my 360 out of storage to put it in different storage, but im considering hooking it up and finding out just how bad my characters actually were.
This feels like the real life equivalent of that Skyrim quest where you wake up after getting drunk and have to figure out what the heck you did while under the influence.
Jon has to wonder why he slaughtered everyone.
A.) he was mildly offended by an npc
B.) he was bored
C.) no reason, he’s Jon
D.) all of the above.
E. He pushed the shoot button due to his perception.
Accidental autosave
To be fair, the Atomic Wrangler isn't exactly an upscale place of business. They even have an underage girl advertising for it out front.
F) He just wondered if he could. Resulting in Kill Everything?
E. He accidentally stole something, agro-ing the whole casino
What's more terrifying than a Deathclaw ... one that has the power to soar up into the sky & teleport back to the ground in milliseconds.
The deathclaw has acrobatics maxed out
I think that happened to me the very first time I found one in FO3, it was scary and incredible. I managed to get all the way to Old Olney or whatever it's called without ever seeing or fighting one, and then one runs at me I'm thinking oh shit oh shit oh shit what is that and it just zooms up in to the sky.
But it fell down and died, so that was lucky.
"Tap tap tap"
"What's that noise?"
The second Deathclaw which instantly killed me.
And then when I reloaded the most recent save the first Deathclaw was fine and didn't do it's magic trick so I had to run away from TWO.
And that is why Fallout 3 is still my favourite. So much chaos.
maybe the think-tank has been experimenting with splicing deathclaws and hellfire missiles.
Deathclaw -"I have to leave now. My people need me."
it's like using fly in pokemon
Young Jon: No, I won't kill Mr House, I'm a good person!
Also Young Jon: *murders a whole casino for no reason*
Based
Perfectly balanced, as all things should be
No difference between young Jon and old Jon then?
also Jon: makes a shitty video kissing Bugthesda's ass regarding F3 so he could make it to a greenbriar event to playtest fallout 76, shitting on New Vegas, a game he loved in the process.
I'm guessing he got caught stealing something
Well this is definitely an interesting version of 'everything Jon got wrong'
is he some how playing the save file on the pc? it dose not look like x box 360 graphics
@@awakeandwatching953 I may be the series S/X. If you have gold you can sync your saves through the cloud. Just a guess though🤓
@@ptbunz2501 This is on his 360, he says so in the video when he talks about how he found his old hard drive and popped it into his console.
@@kupokinzyt I heard that, I was simply guessing as the person above me asked why it looked so good.
@@ptbunz2501 having played the 360 version recently, FO3 and NV actually hold up rather well vs PS3. I believe the 360 is 720p native with 4X MSAA, almost completely hiding the jaggies. A lot of people played the PS3 copy which lacked AA and it looked really bad from it.
My guess: Jon lost a lot of money at the casino and decided to get revenge.
Or perhaps the idea was that you can't have a job if your employer is dead. That would explain the one survivor.
@@Dave5281968 I think you've got it. That'd be a very Jon thing to try
Or the drinks were water down just too much for Jon.
My theory is that he decided to save and murder everyone in the casino and then accidentally saved instead of loading
Current Jon lecturing Young Jon about inventory management is hilarious.
Yeah, I remember his Dust and Frost playthroughs...
To be fair to past Jon, one aspect about New Vegas is that it is constantly throwing quests at you. While trying to complete one, you wind up starting 3 or 4 more. He probably tried to complete side quests as soon as he got them, which meant the main quest had to be put on the backburner.
That's my first fallout 4 playthrough
Of all the channels to find watching MATN, it's the one I just found last week (and appreciate).
God, it's driving me crazy that you never actually went to that old placed map marker in Fallout 3.
Me too! >:(
Me three
Me four.
Surely, somebody out there could check by replaying Fallout 3 and help Jon in his quest to solve that mystery. Which brave hero will heed this call?🤔
Edit:
Me five🤣
I agree with the person above
Me six...
I think we've all woken up in a casino and concluded "I apparently chose to murder everyone in the building. I wonder why?"
It's a modern rite of passage.
Watching Jon trying to figure out the casino situation is like that one episode of literally every sitcom, where the protagonist has no memory of something and tries to piece together what happened from clues.
Except the only clue is that the whole casino is dead. And instead of figuring out what happened, Jon just freaks out.
My head-canon is that Fisto malfunctioned and violently...."Fisto'd" them all to death,Jon and Jamieson being the sole survivors who had to put him down....
The fact that you still kept all those save files warms my heart 😊. I wish kept mine...
I know some must have been deleted over the years - possibly just to save hard drive space, as the old 360 drives were pretty small.
I've still got my white PS1 memory card from the FFVIII collectors edition, got no PlayStation to check it on now though. I know there was a Pandemonuim save, a Metal Gear Solid save, a Destruction Derby save and obviously FFVII and FFVIII saves, but no idea how far each is or what else it may contain. I just know it's where I kept the backup saves for my favourite games.
am I the only one who meticulously keeps save files? I often transfer all that stuff when I build a new computer. Though I know I don't have saves from any games I played in the 90's, I probably didn't know how to transfer the files in those days.
@@jollybodger You can order converters to PC
I had mine on my old ps3 but i sold it 2 years ago ahhh wish i didnt.
Most of this video is you staring at a pipboy, deciphering your actions from 2010 and I'm still watching with fascination and intrigue. I love this channel so much my god.
"I can't remember where I am or what's happening"
Seemingly true in both 10+ year old save files and certain series from a week before
Jon NV has achievements for killing (x) npcs with a certain weapon type. My guess is you wanted to get the unarmed one and went sicko mode on innocent casino people
I think I know why jon slaughtered the atomic wrangler!! Back in the day the 360 version had a game breaking bug where if you took francine Garretts quest to collect debts, and were told to get the hat from the fella out front of gommorah it would soft lock your game at the north vegas gate. Jon probbably read a online post, or saw it in some form of media that their quest creates that soft lock, so he slaughtered the quest giver, and all their alliesd npcs, to fail it, thus being able to enter vegas propper, removing the soft lock. I myself ran into that crash happy gate in my first letsplay and was a ludicrous level when I finally stepped foot on the strip, including at least one of the dlc.
This is an interesting change of pace from the version of Jon who knows modern Fallout better than his hands.
Just imagine looking back through an old photo album, and there's one picture of you surrounded by corpses, holding a bloody weapon. You don't remember it at all, that would be horrifying.
37:25 Judging by Jon’s history on the channel it seems that young Jon’s form of therapy was digital genocide.
Young Jon clearly knew the inherent joy in keeping everything all the time. What if you want to use that unique weapon at some point? What if you want to pick up literally everything not nailed down? Every character I ever made has gotten Strong Back and this will continue until the day I die!
Same, just can’t help myself
Oh God your pfp is really annoying me. It's like when you put that blue thing over text by holding down your right cursor.
My mistake in New Vegas was putting points in charisma, and being a gun character that didn't have very good gun perks. And I remember wasting a load of time by reloading and overwriting my save because I thought I locked myself into the House ending by upgrading the Securitrons.
Also I played it on an unpatched 360 version which was a mistake in itself.
First time I played Vegas was a couple years after launch. My brother had been playing from launch and promised me charisma was the best to max... never forgotten never forgiven
At least it wasn't an unpatched ps3 version I suppose. I believe that's the only version that faced even further downgrades and is overall the most unstable.
@@theepicduck6922 Yeah, the 360 version isn't actually that unstable in comparison to unmodded PC and a lot better than PS3.
@@theepicduck6922 I played FO3 on the PS3 with no internet connection and the original disk install only and never saw any glitches or crashes. Or course, it did not include any of the DLC content, either. I thought it was so good that I think I've become a total Fallout 3/NV/4 addict. :) And it seems that, on the Playstation's, the PS3 were stable, while Fallout 4 crashes some on the PS4 and crashes ALOT on the PS4 Pro.
@@Dave5281968 I don't remember any glitches on PS3 F3 either, certainly no jumping deathclaws.
Feeling called out when he said all his stats are “aggressively rounded to the nearest 5” 😂
Definitely still do that 😅
I'm pretty sure the NV save is from when you used Claire to show how to do a no kill Bitter Springs quest
You may be right - it's quite possible that I took an old Aria save, converted it for that purpose and then overwrote the original save without thinking...
Part 17 in the No kill run about 30 minutes in
@@oswk9 10 JonHistory points to you if that's correct!
YES! That was my first thought too! I remember watching that episode REALLY early after finding MATN and wasn't fully paying attention, and suddenly it was a girl, speaking French, and I was very confused. 😂
I came down here to say this too. Damnit, I wanted those 10 JonHistory points. :(
You make me so happy :) I can't express how much I appreciate you, the warmth and the comfort you bring me after a bad day; thank you for everything, man.
I feel this so much right now bud with my wife kicking me out and wanted a divorce because of another man and MATN is the only UA-camr I’ve been able to watch to make me feel better I appreciate you being able to help bring that out Waxkaz you’re a real mvp for that
@@JknAvenger I've been watching MATN since 2016 he has gotten me through some hard times as well.
@@andrewsmith8715 I started watching his series in 2015, when I had a long stint in the hospital. From his challenge runs all the way into the first FO4 playthrough (I basically learned how to play the game watching his first series on it).
@@cartermariano I’m so thankful for MATN and thankful that I’m not alone in what I’m going through
I'm sorry you (and The gaming wanderer) are having such difficult times right now.. Jon's ability to make me smile when everything sucks is truly unparalleled. I've watched a lot of UA-camrs and he's consistently the best for rough days. I hope things look up a bit for y'all soon.
23:03 what we got here is a classic case of saving before an experimental massacre, doing said massacre, then accidentally saving again instead of loading.
"Young Jon was obsessed with carrying too much stuff, just manage your inventory better Jon" I mean...
I still remember that he spent almost all of his Skyrim playthrough about 10 units off his default capacity.
@@tournesol99 lol yes. It got so bad he had to make multiple cuts during one ep where he was just getting rid of stuff. Then after many comments he triumphantly declared he took about 30 mins+ to clear some capacity for the rest of the game so people would stop telling him. He opens up the menu and everyone can se he cleared... 15 carrying capacity.
@@inkyGhosty If I recall correctly, he had to do that sort of thing a few times throughout his playthrough and it always had the same result XD
For me, I carry one or two bows, the armour I am wearing, some gloves for pickpocketing and the dark brotherhood gauntlets, a few potions, and the black star. That is pretty much all you need when you set out. I appreciate he wasn't a stealth archer, but a battlemage has pretty much no reason to sit at 280-290 weight when they prepare for adventure.
I can't let go of items and very bad at inventory management in Fallout. I once made a build in NV to have the most carrying capacity, and even had Pack Rat. 128 Bighorner steaks in my inventory and that was like 1/8 my inventory
All I remember from my first playthrough was I somehow managed to bumble my way through to a Pimp Boy 3000 without looking up a guide or knowing how to do it at all.
That’s fallout new Vegas
@@dungeonmaster201 and?
Hell I remember reading up about the pimp boy and thought it was fake or a mod. And me being a console user didn't look into it much
The first time I heard you mention calling your old player characters "Aria", it immediately latched onto my brain and to this day I still find myself naming my characters Aria in Skyrim. No idea why, I just can't think of anything better I guess.
There's a good Elder Scrolls name generator for every race. I use it every time because I have no creativity of my own.
I would have thought, “Aria T’Loak” from Mass Effect 2, but that was still two years out yet.
EDIT - John said he didn’t get F3 until after 2010, so maybe?
I often use silly names from back when I was 13 or 14 (this was back in the real old gaming days of the 80's). Not exactly mature names, but they are historical for me. My male characters usually have these names like Thrasher. Though for female characters I usually do try to use an actual name.
I have a few names I cycle through. Aria is a beautiful name btw
We see the first steps of Jons journey to being a homicidal maniac
I wonder how young Jon would react to learning that he would, ten years in the future, become one of the most popular Fallout UA-camrs.
By murdering everyone in the ultraluxe this time. Gotta be classy
Jon goes back in time and captures past Jon, Present Jon: "What did you do in these past Fallout saves"?
Past Jon: "You are me from the future and you are asking me about Fallout"?
Present Jon: "Yes".
Past Jon: "So nothing more important happened over the years"?
Present Jon: "Claire Past Jon is being a Dick"!
Past Jon: "You are still with Claire"?
Claire: "Yes you are being a Dick"!
"Claire, Past Jon is being a dick!"
God, I can *hear* this.
If I remember correctly. The 360 had an 'Interesting quirk' that if you unplugged it from the mains. The clock and calender reset to the day of the consoles release in 2005. Used to drive me up the wall as it would screw up the order of save files.
PS4 has a similar bug. I've had the dates of my saves scrambled a few times. It likes to think it's 1968.
@@christopherconard2831 how?! I'm not that good at under the hood stuff but I've heard that most modern computers* don't go before 1-1-1970 so how did yours get 1968?
@@mirjanbouma Playstation had a weird bug recently with marking people's Chrono Cross license at 12/31/1969.
Maybe it's a similar error?
In my first playthrough of New Vegas I heard that Speech was OP, so I maxed it out as fast as possible and breezed through the whole game.
Jon: "I got a little frustrated with some of the game mechanics..."
Also Jon: (Throws the save file into a black hole out of rage)
I still remember finding your channel through the first kotaku article. I have been watching ever since, thank you for the many years of entertainment Jon and Claire
Me too. What a great article, rip useful blogs.
A kotaku article about him finishing the main quest in yolo brought me here. not sure if it was the first one
I don't know which one was the first one, but I remember discovering the channel from an article about the no-kill New Vegas run. I think at the time I was looking for games that could be played as a pacifist (either by design or as a self-imposed challenge).
Ah yes,possibly the ONE time in it's history that Kotaku ever did _ANYTHING_ noteworthy and of value....
it brought us HERE.
I started watching your channel with "Fallout 3 is Better Than You Think" and now here I am watching you recall your old Fallout 3 playthrough. I feel like I've come full circle.
Shed a tear at 19:11, great to see Evil Jon again.
Jon, there is a case for Strong Back in a first playthrough since you never know what you're going to find out in the world and you never know when you'll be able to get back to base to store it. No one wants to drop something just to come all the way back to retrieve it once the inventory is empty again.
Also, Aria looks like she wanted a gun for every ammo type, just in case she ran out of one or wanted to use something different for a while; also a good reason for getting more carry weight.
I can distinctly remember my first New Vegas file. Even on the PS3, the game amazed me. I used the .357 Revolver and the Incinerator an awful lot. Clearly didn't know what I was doing, because I was perpetually running out of ammunition, and not having enough caps to buy more. I recall ending that file outside of the Strip, not able to pass the credit check.
Honestly, your NV playthrough with Aria makes a lot of sense thinking that you were coming from 3. I mean, the story was the least interesting bit of 3. You were taught constantly that if you want to find something cool, you should just ignore the beaten path and explore the map yourself. NV is great, but its more of a flowchart, where all exploration just leads you back to the path at some point. In short, you were trying to playing NV like it was 3, and it made what looks like in hindsight a very strange order of events.
I did exactly this, didn't follow the road and glitched into new Vegas early. Got hated by the NCR cause i didn't get it and never met the Legion once, did everything with Mr House, then killed him for Yes Man and ended the game... Can you believe I thought it was a bad game after that? I still feel dumb over this. I never bought a single gun (as in Fallout 3 everything good is found) never did any DLC, nothing, totally short changed myself for years.
I honestly feel you on your flowchart remark. In all of my playthroughs of NV, I inevitably give up on exploration because I just don't find anything really interesting (and not just in the way of items or weapons, the environment and locations tended to feel bland to me in comparison to the main tour). Additionally, though I haven't seen this come up, I also found that my cross country explorations had the unfortunate issue of being interrupted by oddly placed invisible walls every now and then--I could be crossing what feels like a sensible path that gets me to my destination and then--BAM! Invisible wall that forces me to go the long way around. I don't remember the name of the quest off the top of my head, but it was the one at Bitter Springs where you had to search nearby caves and I just recall finding a nice logical route that led me around the top of the hills only to encounter a wall that forced me down to the lower areas where I had to take so many detours (essentially go the way the devs wanted me to, it seemed).
And the funny thing is, I never ran into the 'edge of the world' in Fallout 3 or 4; I was too busy running around the central areas.
@@BananaMana69 How did you do House/Yes Man without meeting the legion? You have to go to The Fort to get into the securitron bunker which is the first thing House tells you to do, you literally have to speak to Caeser as part of that quest
You can do the Yes Man playthrough (although he gets progressively more passive-agressive about upgrading the Fort securitrons) without ever stepping foot in the Fort.
@@StalkingYouMate I guess that was all I did then, i seriously don't remember doing anything with the legion, but i do remember releasing Mr House from his pod thing so I must have just met him the one time i guess. I was dumb, i wanted the fiends and Khans to be just raiders like Fallout 3 and i never realised I could just make them hate me lol. The last thing i remember was going to Jacobstown to get a unique super sledge cause i was still playing like it was Fallout 3 lol. I hated the game cause the NCR hated me and i didnt know I could side with the legion lol. Sorry for subjecting you to my stupidity.
Im about ready to start a real playthrough all these years later tho after beating Fallout 1 and 2.
If I had to guess, is say that last save was what you used to go back and do each factions endgame. Like that was the point everything diverged so you could reload it to go through each one. Your saves past that point might have been overwritten as you tried new things
That deathclaw at the beginning fit with jon talking about glitches so well, and the fact that he didn't see it all had had me dying!
SAME
It's funny, just last week I started a new FO3 game because I realized I didn't have any achievements on it since I played it originally on PC so just decided to do the whole thing over and have fun doing them all. So much I had forgotten but also so much that subsequently got improved on from 3 to NV and from NV to FO4. Just a strange step back in time.
seeing evil jon for the first time in about 5 years since i last watched the new vegas kill everything brings me warmth inside
My first ever Fallout playthrough was Fallout 4 (I was a bit late to the party, don't judge me). I think I got to a point in the game where I was running into Super Mutants more frequently and I was just so squishy and poorly equipped to deal with them I just abandoned that playthrough and started a new character with some better starting stats. I believe I even used your guide for that!
I’m incredibly amused by young john seeing a super deathclaw leaping into the stratosphere and going ‘maybe this game isn’t for me/I need a break’
34:32 It's funny you mention the lack of hotkeys, because I remember distinctly in Fallout NV: YOLO, you learned about hotkeys for the very first time in the middle of the video, back in Vault 11, I believe.
Fallout 3 is so nostalgic for me, The second I heard the sounds of the opening screen I want to replay it or at least watch your video about fallout 3 is better then you think
I'm at 16:45 right now. My guess on why he did the beginning of The Pitt and then gave up and decided to go to Moira's quest (ending up at Dukov's place on his way to Tepid Sewers) was that he decided he wanted to do the DLC (presumably due to the radio broadcast), got to the part just before heading to The Pitt and when told he needed to get a Slave Outfit to wear probably (more or less correctly) assumed he wasn't going to be able to take his armor with him and that caused enough panic that Jon gave up on The Pitt and decided to go do something else.
This video reminds me of my very first playthrough of F:NV.
I had gotten the game as soon as it came out (having played FO3, though I don't remember my first playthrough on 3) and went to play. I had decided to play the game without any quest markers or map to tell me where to go (I had fallen in love with my first open world game in FO3) and went on my way.
Now, looking back on it I have no idea how the hell I managed it but I went from Goodsprings, trekked across the desert for a few hours (all using only autosaves), and somehow ended up at Vault 34 without ever finding Primm or anybody I could talk to. I, somehow, snuck my way past the geckos into the Vault itself, made it deep within, and died.
You need to understand, at this point I had no healing supplies, little armor or weapons/ammo, and I was stuck in a mid-late game area. Yet, somehow, I died not to dmg but to Radiation.
I loaded my autosave. I'm back in the middle of the Vault with some 900 or so rads. I cannot leave without dying. I cannot progress without dying.
My last actual, non-autosave was hours ago back in Goodsprings.
I made a new game the week after.
Oddly enough the first time I played fallout 3 I didn't see a deathclaw until the end of the game in the enclave building. I never saw a single one out in the wild.
This video has made me so happy. It's nice to go back to old games but they're always tainted by what we know now. Mass Effect is a big one for me, wish I could play ME1 for the first time ever, all over again. The nostalgia of these old saves brings back some great memories.
“i think young jon may have been scared of numbers that weren’t round” yet still rounds off most of his numbers to this day 🤣🥺
My theory about the NV Brotherhood missions, is that you did There Stands the Grass right before, found the HEPA filters and looked up what they did, found out it was for the brotherhood's quests, and immediately went there
watching you playing FO3 makes me so happy. its how I found you and its my fav game of all time T__T
oh jon. never stop making videos. ive been silently enjoying your content for longer than i care to remember
What an absolute treat! Just last night I was watching the MATN FO3 Kill Everything run! It's my favorite UA-cam series of all time and I can't believe you decided to revisit this today! :)
Jon wondering what Aria was doing at level 34 has the same energy as waking up with amnesia covered in blood and surrounded by bodies.
I remember getting this game back in 2008 and exploring the subway. And the DC area as I had lived in DC at the time. Just to see how accurate Bethesda was to real life.
I remember evil Jon she was a ton of fun the puns were at their peak and humour was indeed also at its peak
What a cool look back at your earliest playthroughs.
Clearly young Jon's first and last experiment with chems was a hit of psychojet in the Atomic Wrangler.
I remember the days of you running the channel off of 360 content! Congratulations! We're old!
Wasn't there a bit where you had Claire dub over some gameplay of this character doing Boone's mission in a No Kill Alternate Universe? If I recall correctly, its been some time, but Claire dubbed over it in French and I think it was "Episode 17 - Bleed Me Dry" and at the end of the bit Boone was wearing NCR armor. So you might have just saved over it when doing that bit before the finale.
Edit: After checking, yes it seems like the timelines line up. So that Aria save file that's oddly places between Kill Everything and No Kill is probably your original Aria save file that was re-used for a bit, possibly to save time leveling a new character to the point they could have all of Boone's loyalty points and be ready to start Bitter Springs. Here's hoping Jon can see this for another great episode of All the Things Jon got Wrong. :)
If I ever played my original save files of games like this, I’d probably cry.
And Jon, my guess when I re-load into a room full of dead people is usually a result of having botched a pickpocket or literally pressed the wrong button and accidentally shot someone...everyone goes agro and...well... bippity boppity boo, pile of bodies.
best comment on here lol😂
Man Ive been subscribed to you since 2013 dang
NV Jon coming into his own: this is the Jon that took how many episodes to get to Ivarstead again
Little did you know you'd still be playing these games all this time later and you'd be making a living from doing so!
To be fair, you were told to end the guy's employment. If you failed the speech check and didn't have a save to load back to, killing the Garrets and everyone marked as hostile after would do it.
Thanks for the uploads Jon, always helps watching your channel.
I had a deathclaw do that exact same thing in one of my FO3 playthroughs, but it never stabilized and attacked. I could walk right up to where it was appearing and then flying up into orbit.
I'm going to guess the whole mass of quests in New Vegas came from the mistaken belief that The Strip was the end-game, once you found Benny you were locked in and only a few quests short of finishing, so you went to do EVERYTHING else you could, more or less., and at some point ended up inside and realized "Oh, no, there's a whole lot more game left!" and other things including other Fallout projects drew you away.
Would have loved to see Jon’s reaction if his FNV character had 10 Charisma
This makes me want to go digging in my old files now.
Same! And not with just Fallout, with any game I still own 10+ years later
"I wanted everyone to be happy and get along" ...including the massacred casino?
calling Boone a nuclear bomb that walks like a man is a bit of the pot calling the kettle black there Jon
I'm certain your more recent New Vegas Aria save is from the No Kill run where you alternate universe did I Forgot To Remember To Forget with Claire dubbing it in French. So maybe you didn't do anything with Boone originally and just used that file for the footage because it was the only non-endgame file that wasn't No Kill or Kill Everything.
Young Jon making sure everything is a round number is a big mood.
I know I still have my first playthrough saves of 3, 4, NV, even Oblivion and Skyrim. I tend to get these games, go through and 100% them, exploring everywhere and doing everything possible, and then I shelf them and take a long time to go back unfortunately. But thanks to watching a hundred Jon runs, I feel like I played these games a dozen times over
That's too many guns, says Jon, not realizing the true treasure of New Vegas is collecting one of everything.
Also the hotkey thing was really funny, since you're definitely guilty of setting up hotkeys and then still going into the menu to change guns and ammo. :P
Also also, you can be wild child with the Khans if you kill the ones in the Boulder City Ruins and then make nice with the rest.
This was so interesting. Thank you for sharing this!
Just to make you feel old, you started this save file before I had even left Primary School and now I'm working in finance and paying my own bills.
If you were going to invest 10k what would you do
@@JoshuaKevinPerry Start a show where you burn 10k in cash as the finale and sell 1000 tickets at £20 each.
I'm pretty sure that the New Vegas playthrough was saved at Bitter Springs with Boone because that was the character you recorded with for the New Vegas No Kill run "alternate universe" where you did the Bitter Springs quest. Going back to the video and the character looks identical to Aria.
Clearly, the Atomic Wrangler broke the only rule of Omega.
Haha!
I've been with you since your first fallout 4 playthrough, keep up the good work!
Seeing Evil Jon's save file gave me a huge rush of nostalgia. The NV Kill Everything playthrough is how I first found this channel, and it showed me just how much *stuff* there is in the game.
19:26 Evil Jon: reputation "moneygrabber".
Yep, being a little greedy was apparently what Evil Jon was notorious for in the Mojave, not like, leaving a hecatomb of bodies strown around the desert 🤣
Please finish some of these playthroughs I'm fascinated x
I sadly lost my first Fallout play-through; played before the DLCs came out -- Seymour Arkend made it passed the Waters of Life and was in the middle of doing the Rivet City history bit when I got trapped in the broken part of the ship when my game glitched and black screened every time I tried to leave. I only had one save, made when I was already inside. Lost that game. I still have my second save, Tiberius Zal, and he finished the game -- I initially thought I would find nothing new, but finding Agatha's Station and Oasis instilled in me a sense of wonder and adventure for the world of Fallout 3 and I explored it extensively.
Comparatively, I remember little of my New Vegas play-through -- I never liked New Vegas, but I remembered I was named Solomon Abel and was so happy I could go Independent because New Vegas' marketing made it seem like only NCR (which I hate, having played Fallout 1 and 2) and the Legion (just up-jumped Raiders with good rhetoric) were an option. I remember I burned the NCR at Helios, and balanced my faction reputations so well I walked through all of Hoover Dam without either NCR or Legion attacking me -- they would latter patch this, forcing you to be vilified by at least one of these, but I was playing first release of the game. I used That Machine and Brotherhood Power Armor at the end, and killed Lanius in a one-on-one duel because I was head-cannoning it was too dangerous to let him live.
God, I got a tear in my eye when I saw Evil Jon. My brother showed me Fallout: New Vegas Kill Everything and that got me hooked on your channel. As for why you murdered everyone inside the Atomic Wrangler, it might've been that you had found out about the bug in one of the quests in there.
This is pure gold!
It's definately bits!
I believe that the location of that custom marker is where the Alien crash site is at around 6 minutes
There's a locker in the Atomic Wrangler backroom containing some guns, maybe Jon tried to steal them, got caught, and decided to not save scum/didn't have an earlier save?
The fact that the genocide save is separate leads me to believe that Jon did what we all do at one point. Drop a save, kill everyone to see if you can and then go back to the previous save. I bet if he checks the bar in the later save everyone will be alive.
Seeing this video inspired me to go back and look at my old files and I'm also having the 2005 problem, it's so weird
omg that fallout New Vegas aria was for showing off Boones companion quest during the no kill run
that was a lovely brilliant story journey - Thank You! I really appreciate how well you share your experiences with us :-)
Fallout 3 was the first Fallout game I played. It was recommended to me by a coworker because of how much I talked about Skyrim. I restarted my first character twice. The first time was because I forgot to loot in the vault and had nothing to trade for caps once I got to Megaton. The second time was because I was terrible at guns and didn't want to use V.A.T.S because the weapon condition went down so fast and I kept dying. I then discovered the shishkebab and restarted with melee build. Then I did Operation Anchorage and was forced to figure out guns since the melee weapons in that DLC suck and was so excited that I figured it out that I started another character with a gun build. And I have learned so much from you videos and fell in love with the game and still play it!
I started with Fallout 4. Some of my first characters were absolutely pathetic. They'd make an interesting challenge today when I know way more about the game. But for a new player I was just grinding my way to my next suicide.
Fo3 was my first fallout game, second game ever played (1st was original assassins creed), so I did *not* understand how stats worked, how perks worked, nothing. I've recently pulled my 360 out of storage to put it in different storage, but im considering hooking it up and finding out just how bad my characters actually were.
I assume young Jon assumed that killing Benny was end game, rather than end of act 1?
yeah, that's definitely what I thought was the end of the game at the beginning of my first playthrough tbh