It was a shame that there was no video reviewing this mainboard in Korea. This video was solved by supporting Korean subtitles. Thank you for making a good video👍👍
Glad you found this video useful! All videos on the ALKtech channel have proper English subtitles so that folks who might not have English as their first language can use UA-cam's auto-translate feature for more accurate subtitles.
Computer motherboards and cases should have been all-white ever since 1980. Even with the old beige cases, one was still left with hard-to-see black motherboards. Working on black motherboards inside black cases with black cables has been like working in a cave without a flashlight. I'll NEVER go back to black. White should be here to stay
Actually that's a good point - somehow it's completely slipped my mind that white/beige PCs were THE standard at some point in time...I remember from the Pentium 3 era, aluminium silver cases were a thing, and from the Pentium 4 era onwards, black PC cases started becoming more mainstream!
This seems really limiting on PCIE lanes for what is supposed to be an X870E board. You're basically limited to two NVME drives if you don't want to neuter your graphics card.
Yeah...it's because of mandatory USB4 support, where some PCIe lanes from the CPU have to be set aside for the USB4 controller instead, resulting in lesser lanes for M.2 drives and hence this entire lane sharing situation. That said, there are some benchmarks out there that demonstrate how having your graphics card run at x8 speed might not result in thaaaat significant a performance drop - of course, your mileage may vary with the type of GPU and of course the type of game in question.
@ALKtech Wait I'm confused, so can can I use the first two M.2 Gen 5 SSd and the third one for M.2 Gen4 , just not the last 4rth Gen4 M.2 slot if I want full PCIE Gen 5, did I get that correct or am I wrong??
@@PT-rg2vo I just had a look at the specs of the X670E AORUS PRO X, it doesn't seem to have any PCIe lane sharing at all, so yes, it would be a better option if your intention is to use multiple NVMe M.2 drives without impacting the primary GPU slot's speeds!
@@hdz77 if you wanna maintain your GPU slot at full x16 speed, you can only install one PCIe 5.0 SSD on the first M.2 slot (M2A_CPU), and one PCIe 4.0 SSD on the third M.2 slot (M2D_SB), for a total of two drives. As long as you have a drive installed on the second and/or fourth M.2 slot, the GPU slot will drop to x8 speeds. Hope this clarifies!
@@lucaverde126 could be a market demand kinda thing, though with the new X870 and Z890 motherboards that have been hitting the market, I'm seeing more and more of such white PCB motherboards!
Amazing review! One of the best reviewing channel i've seen. direct to the point, clear, informative. Convinced me to get it. Still tho, was hoping for a new GPU launch this autumn/fall that might take advantage of PCI 5.0, but nope. And the X3d Cache but but i really dont want to wait until late Q1, Q2. You think G.Skill Trident Z5 Royal Neo RGB DDR5-8000 would fit? I was thinking about getting Oloy Blade 5 Platinum first, but they only go up 7000mhz. ( g.skill ram config doesn't work atm with checking compatibility on this board)
Thanks for the kind words, glad you found the video useful! That said, your wish might come true sooner than expected - just read today that the rumour mill's pointing to a potential end-October 2024 launch for the 9800X3D 🤔 That said, I haven't had the chance to test high-speed DDR5 modules with any X870 boards just yet, so I can't really comment if the G Skills will have any compatibility issues with this mobo 😅
An update if you're curious. So i ordered this board: Ram: G.skill Trident Z5 Royal Neo DDR5 8000mhz 48gb Storage: a Crucial T705 NVME 2TB Case: Be Quiet Shadow Base 800FX - white cpu cooler: Be quiet light loop 360mm white psu: hard time finding a good one in whire initially was planning on getting Asus THOR III or a be quiet one(even asked their customer service if they had any plans for a white one but nope), in the end i went with Seasonic Vertex 1200w. 80+ gold. Cpu:, waiting for AMD to release but if it's correct on the 7th, the 9800x3d. Gpu: will use an old one and be gpu limit for a few months. I haven't upgraded my pc in i think 4 years.
@@Arcadiez sounds like a pretty solid PC build and thanks for sharing! I'm guessing you'll be getting a white GPU as well in due course? Just wondering too - any particular reason why you chose DDR5 8000 RAMs? Seeing as DDR5 6000/6400 still seems to be the sweet spot for Zen 5 processors!
@@ALKtech i dunno my self tbh... waiting for the new cpus.. probs 9800x3d with new fitting rams. hoping for 6400 support. Case will be a hyte. and Crucial t700 pci5 ssd.... want to make a "white" build.. but im not too sure about all of the parts to consider.. as my gpu my 2070 has to suffice until the 5'000 series
@@ALKtech yeah i hope so.. wanted to make a nice white build.. probably even use the hyte tower with the display.. even nzxt will release their new MoBos in q1 25' in clean white on X870e... im struggling to decide now that im writing about it 😀
@@Pingusirup well I personally think the Gigabyte in this video is the best-looking all-white X870E mobo on the market currently...there's no other brands with a similar aesthetic (i.e. with white-coloured slots, connectors etc)!
Yeah, you'll have to use the first Gen 5 M.2 slot (M2A_CPU) and the Gen 4 M.2 slot (M2D_SB) - populating these two slots will not result in any lane bifurcation that will cut the GPU to x8!
Glad you found the video useful! RAM wise, do you have any potential speeds/brand in mind yet? If you'd like a peace of mind, you can always check out the QVL list for this board to see what RAMs have been tested to work fine: www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X870E-AORUS-PRO-ICE/support#support-memsup
Check the online manual for supported ram. Corsair sell white vengeance 6000Mhz RGB but not sure if it's only for intel. Don't think there are any white branded AMD expo DDR5 from corsair.
If the 9950X3D does indeed come with 3D V-Cache on both CCDs, I sure hope they've managed to find a way to solve the latency issue between both CCDs, and can get their act together to sort out any potential thread scheduler issues. Barring these, I sure hope the 9950X3D turns out to be a beast of a gaming and productivity processor...we'll see!
Hello, it's actually a screenshot from Gigabyte's website on Sensor Panel Link so I don't actually know which brand/model of screen that is! That said, Gigabyte has a UA-cam video that has a close up of the said screen at 1:38, you can check out the video here: ua-cam.com/video/3BEU99yUclQ/v-deo.html From the video, it looks like an OEM 7-inch touchscreen panel that you could perhaps purchase from AliExpress or a similar platform. Hope this helps!
Yup - as long as you have M.2 NVMe drives installed on slots M2B_CPU and/or M2C_CPU, regardless of PCIe generation (e.g. PCIe 3.0 x4, PCIe 4.0 x4 etc), the GPU slot will still drop down to x8 mode. Hope this clarifies!
The ROG Crosshair X870E Hero is a more premium motherboard compared to the X870E AORUS PRO ICE just based on specifications, and will hence cost much more for sure! It'll really depend on whether you're gonna be needing all those premium features or not...
But if you're doing a white-coloured PC build (which I assume you are), might as well go all the way and get a proper all-white motherboard! What processor and GPU will you be using for your build?
The double digit debug LED is white in colour, you can refer to the written article here to see how it looks like when switched on, under the section "Other Features": www.alktech.co/articles/review-gigabyte-x870e-aorus-pro-ice-am5-motherboard
What are the differecnces with X870 VS X870E Boards by populating Nvme drives, does the lane avaliability remain the same? Im wondering if the Z890 have the same limitations.....
Z890 runs the exact same lanes as x870e. X870 has lower overall lanes available though. X870e has 44 total pcie lanes with 24 dedicated to pice 5.0 while x870 has 36 lanes total and 24 to pcie 5.0. So no difference really.
@@liekarts2936asus boards aren't all white. Just white coverings and ocb. It's still all black connectors, ram slots, accents etc. Honestly just lazy. Gigabyte know how to do the colour right.
@@prototypep4 yeah I do think it's kinda a missed opportunity that ASUS went with black connectors and hardware for their white motherboard offering - but hey, I guess there could still be folks out there who would still like some form of contrast and could be using say, standard PSUs and cables that are black in colour for their build 😂
@@liekarts2936 ah right! For the ASUS X870-A that I put out a video on, I suspect it might be a little cheaper than the Gigabyte though...this is because the Gigabyte uses the X870E chipset while the ASUS uses the pared-down X870 chipset! So it's not really a like-for-like comparison 😅
Unfortunately the STEALTH isn't available where I'm from (Singapore), perhaps due to the fact that such motherboards with connectors on the rear aren't really taking off here (yet)...but that said, I had a look at the specs - on paper, the B650E AORUS STEALTH ICE does seem to have a good set of features, with Gen 5 support for a graphics card and a M.2 drive, plus a pretty sweet-looking aesthetic to boot! Only downer is the fact that the WIFI 7 module supports 160 MHz channel widths and not the full-fat 320 MHz "true" WIFI 7 standard...
@@DefendYourGains yeah I do agree these boards look pretty damn clean! I'm guessing we should see more of such boards with the next wave of motherboard releases (perhaps AMD B850 come early next year)!
Does it share PCIe Lanes, even if you use the 5.0 ports with 3.0 or 4.0 NVMEs? Often it only limits if 5.0 is used and totaly fine if 4.0 or 3.0 gets used.
As long as you have a drive, regardless of PCIe 5.0/4.0/3.0 installed on the M2B_CPU and/or M2C_CPU Gen 5 M.2 slots, the primary GPU slot will drop down to x8 mode!
@@Lost_Souls_Gaming 😅 well to be fair...having the GPU slot run at x8 doesn't have thaaaaat huge an impact on FPS/performance for that matter...there are other reviews out there that test PCIe bandwidth scaling, and these tests tend to show that if there is any performance degradation, the performance loss tends to be very minimal, in the low single-digit range!
@@Lost_Souls_Gaming 🤣 but yeah regarding concurrent streaming and gaming...I highly doubt that would be able to saturate all 16 lanes of the PCIe 4.0 bus too 🤔
I have the X670E Taichi Carrara and am looking for a clean white mobo replacement. The Aorus Pro Ice looked promising until I read the fine print regarding the NVME slots halving the GPU bandwidth. That is such a bad design choice it borders on false advertisement. You lose half of the advertised SSD slots if you want to run your GPU at its stated specs. I use four SSD drives with a 4090. Aintnoway this mobo makes sense even if I like the pure white aesthetic. Manufacturers really do not capitalize on the appeal of white builds.
Unfortunately this is due to AMD's requirement to have USB4 support for X870E/X870 motherboards, where as a result board manufacturers have to set aside some PCIe lanes for the USB4 controller, leading to this lane sharing situation. That said, it's still worth noting that the impact on GPU performance (both gaming and productivity workloads) tends to be minimal when running a GPU at PCIe 4.0 x8 mode...but yeah, missed opportunity here for AMD to have done a proper redesign of their next-gen chipset rather than simply renaming X670E/X670 and tacking on USB4 support at the expense of GPU/M.2 PCIe lanes!
Ordered my board this morning! Do you think this ram would function in it? CMH64GX5M2B6000C30W It's intel XMP.. not EXPO, but there's not many Cl30 6000hz 64gb white ram kits.
The RAMs should function with the X870E AORUS PRO ICE - if you've already bought them, just pop them into the board, head over to the BIOS and select the XMP profile that you see for DDR5 6000, and you should be good to go!
Im ina serious aesthetic crisis. Wanted to try out an Asrock white motherboard, but this is much more white. I did not wanted Gigabyte anymore i have to consider what to do
I'm sure it doesn't help that the ASRock boards are probably much friendlier to your wallet too compared to the Gigabyte...but yeah I had a look at ASRock's white boards, the aesthetics of this Gigabyte wins hands down in my opinion. How big is the price difference that you're looking at, where you're from?
@@ALKtech Thansk for the answer, Im from hungary, products are not arrived yet. Price is not main factor because im going to use it for a long time thats why aestetics are important, ill have an open case
@@Betonoszlop I see! Out of curiosity, what open case are you using? And why were you not considering Gigabyte - did you have a bad experience with their motherboards previously?
@@ALKtech Ill get Thermaltake Core P3 white case, I used gigabyte motherboard since 2011 but ive heard about issues in the past few years basicly just wanted to try out something new like Asrock's Steel legend
@@Betonoszlop the X870 Steel Legend looks decent specs wise, though it's a pity the slots and other plastic hardware are black in colour and not white, like on the Gigabyte!
The ideal setup would be two SSDs - one Gen 5 SSD in the first Gen 5 M.2 slot (M2A_CPU), and one Gen 4 SSD in the Gen 4 M.2 slot (M2D_SB). If you have any SSD (regardless of Gen 5/4/3) installed on the other Gen 5 M.2 slots (M2B_CPU, M2C_CPU), the GPU lanes will be impacted. But that said, the performance drop from having the GPU lanes go from x16 to x8 isn't thaaaaaat big - there are some articles/videos out there that quantify the performance difference, and it seems to be in the low single-digit percentage range!
How big's the price difference between both boards where you're from? Not taking into consideration price, I'd personally go for the Gigabyte just because it has a full-white aesthetic and would probably look much nicer in a white AM5 PC build!
@@ALKtech I live in Italy and here the gigabyte costs 400$ and the rog costs 500$. I appreciate your opinion and thank you for your response and your videos.
@@johnnymanetta1925 oh wow. For a X870 board to be so much more expensive than a X870E board...the ASUS tax is real 😅I'd get the Gigabyte board in this instance and save the $100!
@@johnnymanetta1925 yup - as long as you have a M.2 drive (regardless of Gen 3/4/5) installed on the second Gen 5 slot, the primary graphics card slot will drop to x8!
Hello! With this board, you won't get any lane sharing with a sound card installed on the PCIe 4.0 or PCIe 3.0 slot. However, seeing as you have three M.2 drives in your system, you will still encounter lane sharing due to the fact that two of the three PCIe 5.0 x4 M.2 slots share lanes with the primary PCIe 5.0 x16 slot for a graphics card 😅 this means your graphics card will operate at x8 mode instead with three M.2 drives installed...
@@AlexisField there's some benchmark videos/articles out there that demonstrate the difference in performance when the PCIe lanes for a graphics card gets cut in half - by and large there is some performance degradation, but the percentage drop in performance tends to be in the low single-digit range. For the everyday user/gamer, he/she is probably not going to notice!
hey man quick question. i have the gogabyte x670e auros pro x and it keeps crashing everytime i run xmp into my 8000mhz ram. like boot crashing. do u think I have to flash update the bios or get this motherboard. because the one i have now (the one i mentioned) only sticks to its base 4800/3600 speeds. I dont wana get a new mobo but I think its the only way to get it to run correctly at the higher ram speeds. could this board u are showcasing handle above 7600?
Hey there, what processor are you using? Ryzen 7000 series or 9000 series? I personally have a 7800X3D on a Gigabyte X670E AORUS MASTER, and have never been able to run stably on speeds above DDR5 6000 on the stock EXPO profiles that my RAM has (I'm using DDR5 6400 CL40 memory running at DDR5 6000 - I'm lazy to manually tweak my memory timings) - the sweet spot for the Ryzen 7000 series is DDR5 6000. That said, what model of memory are you using, and are they EXPO or XMP RAMs?
@@jamesharisson8389 thanks for sharing. It sounds like more of a settings issue, seeing as the Corsair RAMs have XMP profiles that are suited for Intel platforms, rather than EXPO which is targeted at AMD. If you're keen to stick with your current set of RAMs, you may want to set your memory timings manually to try and find settings that work for your 9950X - based on reviews out there thus far, the sweet spot still seems to be DDR5 6000 or DDR5 6400 for Zen 5. Have you already tried running your RAMs at DDR5 6000/6400 (though I suspect your RAMs might not even have DDR5 6000/6400 profiles loaded - correct me if I'm wrong)?
@@ALKtech i have not yet but will be sure to give it a try! thanks for this info. and also i have the g skillz 8000mhz ram aswell to pair but didnt work at 8000 either. Do u think these newer 870e could run at 7600-8000?
Yeah that's right - the lane sharing will happen regardless of which PCIe gen of SSDs that you install; even if you install a PCIe 3.0 x4 M.2 SSD on the second PCIe 5.0 x4 M.2 slot, the primary graphics card slot will still drop down to x8 mode...
@@ALKtech this means we have actually 3 m2 usuable ports. Becease most user doesnt want to run gpu at x8 mode. And most of us use just first pcie x16 port for gpu. The other pcie will be disable with 3 m2 ssd usage but its not important. Am i right ? Right ?
@@eyluloktay9104 basically if you wanna avoid dropping your GPU to x8 mode, you can only install one Gen 5 SSD in the first M.2 slot (M2A_CPU), and one Gen 4 SSD in the third M.2 slot (M2D_SB), for a total of two M.2 drives!
@@eyluloktay9104 if you want to avoid having the GPU slot drop to x8 mode, the maximum number of M.2 SSDs that can be installed is two, one in M2A_CPU and one in M2D_SB. That said, it's worth noting that the performance difference between having your GPU operate at PCIe 4.0 x8 versus x16 mode isn't that big - there are several articles and videos out there that do PCIe bandwidth scaling tests, where the performance difference observed tends to be in the low single-digit percentage range or even negligible for that matter. What this means is that to the everyday end-user/gamer, he/she might not even notice the performance/FPS difference when running a GPU at x8 mode. Hope this helps!
@@ALKtech I bought the Asus X870 A board. Im going to use m2_1,m2_3 m2_4. Im not gonna use m2_2 becase this is share bandwith with gpu. And M2_3 share bandwith with bottom pcie slot and it will be disabled. Am i making mistakes? Thank you for your long answer btw ♥
All the affordable "E" motherboards from Gigabyte seem to be white (ugh) forcing myself to opt for the more expensive Gigabyte Master. Nice marketing move Gigabyte.
Great Overview! Really appreciate you showing this board! Kinda baffled though about the nvme slots. Like so what is the point of the second + fourth nvme slots even being there if they make the gpu slot go to x8 mode due to sharing cpu lanes. I understand for accessibility but basically if you want peak gpu performance for a current high end gpu or future pcie 5.0 one you really only have 2 nvme slots (first & third).
To be fair even the 4090 can barely use pcie 4.0 x16. X8 only drops performance by single digit fps. It's honestly not even worth worrying about at all. The PCIE bandwidth is already sufficient. If 50 series are 5.0 then I don't see x8 even really being a factor on performance.
Glad you found the video useful! The lane sharing situation seems to be more pronounced with X870E and X870 motherboards, and I suspect that this is due to the fact that AMD has made USB4 mandatory, where some CPU PCIe lanes have to be routed to the USB4 controller, leaving lesser lanes for other peripherals and connectors. That said, as @prototypep4 pointed out, while the performance drop might be negligible at times, my two cents is that it's still something to take note of, especially if I were to be caught unaware about this whole PCIe lane bifurcation situation, and be unknowingly leaving performance on the table - I'd feel worse especially if I had shelled out a good amount of cash for say, a RTX 4090 and would hence expect only the very best out of my GPU!
@ALKtech While I can appreciate the argument about leaving performance on the table, current gen is not maxing out 4.0 x16 and moving to 5.0 if it runs at x8 it'll be the same bandwidth as 4.0 x16 anyway. I don't think the 5090 is going to be such a monster to require it to gain more than even 15fps at the absolute most. For benchmarking? absolutely rip out any other drives and go for gold Me personally will be doing that just to push my overclocks as hard as I can but once I've got my numbers I'm shoving in a second drive. The performance drop will be negligible and I truly hope reviewers are responsible enough to test and show what the drop will actually be.
How big's the price difference between both boards where you're from? If the ROG STRIX X870-A is more expensive than this board, getting the Gigabyte would be a no-brainer!
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Check out the written review for this motherboard here: www.alktech.co/articles/review-gigabyte-x870e-aorus-pro-ice-am5-motherboard
rumor is that these aorus boards will be out sept 30, when the embargo on reviews lifts - any comments on that?
For me it is perfect... Let's see if the 9800x3d or 9950x3d are worth it now ..
Exactly!
shitty mboards, chipset Overheating, minimum temperate 63-65'C. Im stresses test over 90'C and cutoff !!!. I'm waiting for NZXT N9 X870E.
@@Games_and_Tech I went with Asus ROG Strix X870-A Gaming WiFi. Its got a little better IO and Looks nice too. It was quite expensive tho.
@@mightymartin6290 for the price it is not even a 870e 🥲
@@JanKowalski-sy4zh not sure where are you getting your information, Hardware Unboxed already did the testing, temperatures were good
It was a shame that there was no video reviewing this mainboard in Korea. This video was solved by supporting Korean subtitles. Thank you for making a good video👍👍
Glad you found this video useful! All videos on the ALKtech channel have proper English subtitles so that folks who might not have English as their first language can use UA-cam's auto-translate feature for more accurate subtitles.
this is the motherboard im gonna get when i build my next pc, cant wait
Have you decided on your processor and graphics card yet?
Just ordered it on Newegg 🥳
Did you get the x870 or the x870e?
Well I hope next gen Intel CPUs will have native support for PCIE 5.0 so no more bandwidth stealing.
We'll see in the next couple of weeks as we approach the supposed launch of Intel Arrow Lake CPUs and the Z890 chipset!
Computer motherboards and cases should have been all-white ever since 1980. Even with the old beige cases, one was still left with hard-to-see black motherboards. Working on black motherboards inside black cases with black cables has been like working in a cave without a flashlight. I'll NEVER go back to black. White should be here to stay
Actually that's a good point - somehow it's completely slipped my mind that white/beige PCs were THE standard at some point in time...I remember from the Pentium 3 era, aluminium silver cases were a thing, and from the Pentium 4 era onwards, black PC cases started becoming more mainstream!
This seems really limiting on PCIE lanes for what is supposed to be an X870E board. You're basically limited to two NVME drives if you don't want to neuter your graphics card.
Yeah...it's because of mandatory USB4 support, where some PCIe lanes from the CPU have to be set aside for the USB4 controller instead, resulting in lesser lanes for M.2 drives and hence this entire lane sharing situation. That said, there are some benchmarks out there that demonstrate how having your graphics card run at x8 speed might not result in thaaaat significant a performance drop - of course, your mileage may vary with the type of GPU and of course the type of game in question.
@ALKtech Wait I'm confused, so can can I use the first two M.2 Gen 5 SSd and the third one for M.2 Gen4 , just not the last 4rth Gen4 M.2 slot if I want full PCIE Gen 5, did I get that correct or am I wrong??
@@ALKtech So going for the X670E AORUS PRO X is better to populate all the NVME?
@@PT-rg2vo I just had a look at the specs of the X670E AORUS PRO X, it doesn't seem to have any PCIe lane sharing at all, so yes, it would be a better option if your intention is to use multiple NVMe M.2 drives without impacting the primary GPU slot's speeds!
@@hdz77 if you wanna maintain your GPU slot at full x16 speed, you can only install one PCIe 5.0 SSD on the first M.2 slot (M2A_CPU), and one PCIe 4.0 SSD on the third M.2 slot (M2D_SB), for a total of two drives. As long as you have a drive installed on the second and/or fourth M.2 slot, the GPU slot will drop to x8 speeds. Hope this clarifies!
When will this be available in the US?
It is currently if I'm not mistaken
For my next PC build I will use gigabyte just for the eagle it’s so cute
The AORUS Chibi figure isn't included with the motherboard if that's what you're referring to, Gigabyte sells it separately 😅
Aorus ice mobos are incredible
This board has the best aesthetics in my opinion for an all-white AM5 PC build!
@@ALKtech I agree. Still don't understand why very few board manufacturers use white pcbs
@@lucaverde126 could be a market demand kinda thing, though with the new X870 and Z890 motherboards that have been hitting the market, I'm seeing more and more of such white PCB motherboards!
Does this board have an external clock(BCLK)?
Amazing review! One of the best reviewing channel i've seen. direct to the point, clear, informative. Convinced me to get it. Still tho, was hoping for a new GPU launch this autumn/fall that might take advantage of PCI 5.0, but nope. And the X3d Cache but but i really dont want to wait until late Q1, Q2.
You think G.Skill Trident Z5 Royal Neo RGB DDR5-8000 would fit? I was thinking about getting Oloy Blade 5 Platinum first, but they only go up 7000mhz. ( g.skill ram config doesn't work atm with checking compatibility on this board)
Thanks for the kind words, glad you found the video useful! That said, your wish might come true sooner than expected - just read today that the rumour mill's pointing to a potential end-October 2024 launch for the 9800X3D 🤔
That said, I haven't had the chance to test high-speed DDR5 modules with any X870 boards just yet, so I can't really comment if the G Skills will have any compatibility issues with this mobo 😅
@@ALKtechamazing, not so much for my wallet, but amazing to future proof the build. Cheers
An update if you're curious. So i ordered this board:
Ram: G.skill Trident Z5 Royal Neo DDR5 8000mhz 48gb
Storage: a Crucial T705 NVME 2TB
Case: Be Quiet Shadow Base 800FX - white
cpu cooler: Be quiet light loop 360mm white
psu: hard time finding a good one in whire initially was planning on getting Asus THOR III or a be quiet one(even asked their customer service if they had any plans for a white one but nope), in the end i went with Seasonic Vertex 1200w. 80+ gold.
Cpu:, waiting for AMD to release but if it's correct on the 7th, the 9800x3d.
Gpu: will use an old one and be gpu limit for a few months.
I haven't upgraded my pc in i think 4 years.
@@Arcadiez sounds like a pretty solid PC build and thanks for sharing! I'm guessing you'll be getting a white GPU as well in due course? Just wondering too - any particular reason why you chose DDR5 8000 RAMs? Seeing as DDR5 6000/6400 still seems to be the sweet spot for Zen 5 processors!
I will order this one right now!
What are the specs of your upcoming build with this board?
@@ALKtech i dunno my self tbh... waiting for the new cpus.. probs 9800x3d with new fitting rams. hoping for 6400 support.
Case will be a hyte.
and Crucial t700 pci5 ssd....
want to make a "white" build.. but im not too sure about all of the parts to consider..
as my gpu my 2070 has to suffice until the 5'000 series
@@Pingusirup cool! If your RTX 2070 is enough for you, no harm just using it till RTX 5000 arrives perhaps early next year!
@@ALKtech yeah i hope so.. wanted to make a nice white build.. probably even use the hyte tower with the display.. even nzxt will release their new MoBos in q1 25' in clean white on X870e... im struggling to decide now that im writing about it 😀
@@Pingusirup well I personally think the Gigabyte in this video is the best-looking all-white X870E mobo on the market currently...there's no other brands with a similar aesthetic (i.e. with white-coloured slots, connectors etc)!
Would I be able to run 2 pcie 4 M.2 drives without cutting the GPU to x8?
Yeah, you'll have to use the first Gen 5 M.2 slot (M2A_CPU) and the Gen 4 M.2 slot (M2D_SB) - populating these two slots will not result in any lane bifurcation that will cut the GPU to x8!
@@ALKtech also i like to see pcie 2x16 gen4 for 2 gpus...but i can only dream :D
Or m.2 pcie card
I'm absolutely going for this motherboard. Confused what's the best ram for this though. Also I like your videos, super informative.
Glad you found the video useful! RAM wise, do you have any potential speeds/brand in mind yet? If you'd like a peace of mind, you can always check out the QVL list for this board to see what RAMs have been tested to work fine: www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X870E-AORUS-PRO-ICE/support#support-memsup
Check the online manual for supported ram. Corsair sell white vengeance 6000Mhz RGB but not sure if it's only for intel. Don't think there are any white branded AMD expo DDR5 from corsair.
@@RubenGugisroyal gskill
Any thoughts on the 9950x3D being V-cash enabled on both CCD’s?
If the 9950X3D does indeed come with 3D V-Cache on both CCDs, I sure hope they've managed to find a way to solve the latency issue between both CCDs, and can get their act together to sort out any potential thread scheduler issues. Barring these, I sure hope the 9950X3D turns out to be a beast of a gaming and productivity processor...we'll see!
Will i have to q flash with the 7800x3d on this board?
The 7800X3D will work with this board right out of the box - no need for Q-Flash!
@@ALKtech Thank you so much!
Have you tried the Gigabyte X870-E Aorus Pro Ice Motherboard (White) in UAE from GCC Gamers yet?
what was the sensor panel you had in the video? I havent seen one that size before and liked it.
Hello, it's actually a screenshot from Gigabyte's website on Sensor Panel Link so I don't actually know which brand/model of screen that is! That said, Gigabyte has a UA-cam video that has a close up of the said screen at 1:38, you can check out the video here: ua-cam.com/video/3BEU99yUclQ/v-deo.html
From the video, it looks like an OEM 7-inch touchscreen panel that you could perhaps purchase from AliExpress or a similar platform. Hope this helps!
what if you dont use pcie 5.0 m.2 and use 4.0 m.2 drives...would the gpu slot still go down to x8?
Yup - as long as you have M.2 NVMe drives installed on slots M2B_CPU and/or M2C_CPU, regardless of PCIe generation (e.g. PCIe 3.0 x4, PCIe 4.0 x4 etc), the GPU slot will still drop down to x8 mode. Hope this clarifies!
Is this one better than the asus rog strix crosshairs hero ? And WiFi white motherboard??
The ROG Crosshair X870E Hero is a more premium motherboard compared to the X870E AORUS PRO ICE just based on specifications, and will hence cost much more for sure! It'll really depend on whether you're gonna be needing all those premium features or not...
When using two SSD's, one in M2A_CPU and second in M2D_SB, there will be no lane sharing and GPU running at full volume in PCIE 5.0 x16?
Yup that's right!
Picked this up yesterday! Love it so far, although, I think I should have gone with the Elite, its 90$ cheaper
But if you're doing a white-coloured PC build (which I assume you are), might as well go all the way and get a proper all-white motherboard! What processor and GPU will you be using for your build?
@@ALKtech I have a 7800x3d, 4070 ti super, 011 vision, infinity fans, everything is white..
Can you say what color is the debug led light, is it the usual red or white/blue?
The double digit debug LED is white in colour, you can refer to the written article here to see how it looks like when switched on, under the section "Other Features": www.alktech.co/articles/review-gigabyte-x870e-aorus-pro-ice-am5-motherboard
When is the release date for purchase?
It'll be available likely from 30 September - just five/six days from now!
Hey guys where would it be best to plug in to aio pump header on the mb?
What are the differecnces with X870 VS X870E Boards by populating Nvme drives, does the lane avaliability remain the same? Im wondering if the Z890 have the same limitations.....
Z890 runs the exact same lanes as x870e. X870 has lower overall lanes available though. X870e has 44 total pcie lanes with 24 dedicated to pice 5.0 while x870 has 36 lanes total and 24 to pcie 5.0. So no difference really.
Confused about which one to choose for rog or gigabyte
Which ASUS model are you considering? For me, price would be an important deciding factor - I have a feeling Gigabyte might be cheaper 😂
@@ALKtech For the white rog x870 yesterday, yup gigabyte is better about the price😁
@@liekarts2936asus boards aren't all white. Just white coverings and ocb. It's still all black connectors, ram slots, accents etc. Honestly just lazy. Gigabyte know how to do the colour right.
@@prototypep4 yeah I do think it's kinda a missed opportunity that ASUS went with black connectors and hardware for their white motherboard offering - but hey, I guess there could still be folks out there who would still like some form of contrast and could be using say, standard PSUs and cables that are black in colour for their build 😂
@@liekarts2936 ah right! For the ASUS X870-A that I put out a video on, I suspect it might be a little cheaper than the Gigabyte though...this is because the Gigabyte uses the X870E chipset while the ASUS uses the pared-down X870 chipset! So it's not really a like-for-like comparison 😅
Can you do a review of the GIGABYTE B650E AORUS STEALTH ICE Motherboard? Stealth builds are becoming more popular.
Unfortunately the STEALTH isn't available where I'm from (Singapore), perhaps due to the fact that such motherboards with connectors on the rear aren't really taking off here (yet)...but that said, I had a look at the specs - on paper, the B650E AORUS STEALTH ICE does seem to have a good set of features, with Gen 5 support for a graphics card and a M.2 drive, plus a pretty sweet-looking aesthetic to boot! Only downer is the fact that the WIFI 7 module supports 160 MHz channel widths and not the full-fat 320 MHz "true" WIFI 7 standard...
@@ALKtechoh interesting, I didn’t know that about the WiFi. Such a shame it isn’t taking off in Singapore, I have no idea why as they look amazing.
@@DefendYourGains yeah I do agree these boards look pretty damn clean! I'm guessing we should see more of such boards with the next wave of motherboard releases (perhaps AMD B850 come early next year)!
Does it share PCIe Lanes, even if you use the 5.0 ports with 3.0 or 4.0 NVMEs?
Often it only limits if 5.0 is used and totaly fine if 4.0 or 3.0 gets used.
As long as you have a drive, regardless of PCIe 5.0/4.0/3.0 installed on the M2B_CPU and/or M2C_CPU Gen 5 M.2 slots, the primary GPU slot will drop down to x8 mode!
@@ALKtech So it's basically a downgrad of B650E Boards, amazing...
@@Lost_Souls_Gaming 😅 well to be fair...having the GPU slot run at x8 doesn't have thaaaaat huge an impact on FPS/performance for that matter...there are other reviews out there that test PCIe bandwidth scaling, and these tests tend to show that if there is any performance degradation, the performance loss tends to be very minimal, in the low single-digit range!
@@ALKtech I know, it's more a "you can bensh it, but not feel it"-thing.
But not sure if that counts for Streaming too.
@@Lost_Souls_Gaming 🤣 but yeah regarding concurrent streaming and gaming...I highly doubt that would be able to saturate all 16 lanes of the PCIe 4.0 bus too 🤔
Does this board have async Bclk mode?
I have the X670E Taichi Carrara and am looking for a clean white mobo replacement. The Aorus Pro Ice looked promising until I read the fine print regarding the NVME slots halving the GPU bandwidth. That is such a bad design choice it borders on false advertisement. You lose half of the advertised SSD slots if you want to run your GPU at its stated specs. I use four SSD drives with a 4090. Aintnoway this mobo makes sense even if I like the pure white aesthetic.
Manufacturers really do not capitalize on the appeal of white builds.
Unfortunately this is due to AMD's requirement to have USB4 support for X870E/X870 motherboards, where as a result board manufacturers have to set aside some PCIe lanes for the USB4 controller, leading to this lane sharing situation. That said, it's still worth noting that the impact on GPU performance (both gaming and productivity workloads) tends to be minimal when running a GPU at PCIe 4.0 x8 mode...but yeah, missed opportunity here for AMD to have done a proper redesign of their next-gen chipset rather than simply renaming X670E/X670 and tacking on USB4 support at the expense of GPU/M.2 PCIe lanes!
Ordered my board this morning! Do you think this ram would function in it? CMH64GX5M2B6000C30W It's intel XMP.. not EXPO, but there's not many Cl30 6000hz 64gb white ram kits.
My CPU is going to be the 7950x3d if it matters!
The RAMs should function with the X870E AORUS PRO ICE - if you've already bought them, just pop them into the board, head over to the BIOS and select the XMP profile that you see for DDR5 6000, and you should be good to go!
Im ina serious aesthetic crisis. Wanted to try out an Asrock white motherboard, but this is much more white. I did not wanted Gigabyte anymore i have to consider what to do
I'm sure it doesn't help that the ASRock boards are probably much friendlier to your wallet too compared to the Gigabyte...but yeah I had a look at ASRock's white boards, the aesthetics of this Gigabyte wins hands down in my opinion. How big is the price difference that you're looking at, where you're from?
@@ALKtech Thansk for the answer, Im from hungary, products are not arrived yet. Price is not main factor because im going to use it for a long time thats why aestetics are important, ill have an open case
@@Betonoszlop I see! Out of curiosity, what open case are you using? And why were you not considering Gigabyte - did you have a bad experience with their motherboards previously?
@@ALKtech Ill get Thermaltake Core P3 white case, I used gigabyte motherboard since 2011 but ive heard about issues in the past few years basicly just wanted to try out something new like Asrock's Steel legend
@@Betonoszlop the X870 Steel Legend looks decent specs wise, though it's a pity the slots and other plastic hardware are black in colour and not white, like on the Gigabyte!
Can I not use 2 Gen 5 SSD's or will it hinder my GPU performance? Or is it best to use 1 gen 5 and 1 gen 4 SSD?
The ideal setup would be two SSDs - one Gen 5 SSD in the first Gen 5 M.2 slot (M2A_CPU), and one Gen 4 SSD in the Gen 4 M.2 slot (M2D_SB). If you have any SSD (regardless of Gen 5/4/3) installed on the other Gen 5 M.2 slots (M2B_CPU, M2C_CPU), the GPU lanes will be impacted.
But that said, the performance drop from having the GPU lanes go from x16 to x8 isn't thaaaaaat big - there are some articles/videos out there that quantify the performance difference, and it seems to be in the low single-digit percentage range!
@@ALKtech Appreciate the comment! Deciding between this one and the 870 Rog Hero right now
@@TangerineAltoid happy to help. What's the price difference between both boards where you're from?
Do you recommend this gigabyte or the rog x870a?
How big's the price difference between both boards where you're from? Not taking into consideration price, I'd personally go for the Gigabyte just because it has a full-white aesthetic and would probably look much nicer in a white AM5 PC build!
@@ALKtech I live in Italy and here the gigabyte costs 400$ and the rog costs 500$. I appreciate your opinion and thank you for your response and your videos.
@@johnnymanetta1925 oh wow. For a X870 board to be so much more expensive than a X870E board...the ASUS tax is real 😅I'd get the Gigabyte board in this instance and save the $100!
@@ALKtech Thank you very much, one last question please. But if I use an m2 gen4 on the second gen5 slot will the gpu line still work at x8?
@@johnnymanetta1925 yup - as long as you have a M.2 drive (regardless of Gen 3/4/5) installed on the second Gen 5 slot, the primary graphics card slot will drop to x8!
its ne again ^^" can that board handle a soundcard or will it cut lanes away thanks for the review ^^
Hello! With this board, you won't get any lane sharing with a sound card installed on the PCIe 4.0 or PCIe 3.0 slot.
However, seeing as you have three M.2 drives in your system, you will still encounter lane sharing due to the fact that two of the three PCIe 5.0 x4 M.2 slots share lanes with the primary PCIe 5.0 x16 slot for a graphics card 😅 this means your graphics card will operate at x8 mode instead with three M.2 drives installed...
@@ALKtech Will lane sharing be an issue most users will even notice? or just the tech enthusiast/benchmarkers?
@@AlexisField there's some benchmark videos/articles out there that demonstrate the difference in performance when the PCIe lanes for a graphics card gets cut in half - by and large there is some performance degradation, but the percentage drop in performance tends to be in the low single-digit range. For the everyday user/gamer, he/she is probably not going to notice!
hey man quick question. i have the gogabyte x670e auros pro x and it keeps crashing everytime i run xmp into my 8000mhz ram. like boot crashing. do u think I have to flash update the bios or get this motherboard. because the one i have now (the one i mentioned) only sticks to its base 4800/3600 speeds. I dont wana get a new mobo but I think its the only way to get it to run correctly at the higher ram speeds. could this board u are showcasing handle above 7600?
Hey there, what processor are you using? Ryzen 7000 series or 9000 series? I personally have a 7800X3D on a Gigabyte X670E AORUS MASTER, and have never been able to run stably on speeds above DDR5 6000 on the stock EXPO profiles that my RAM has (I'm using DDR5 6400 CL40 memory running at DDR5 6000 - I'm lazy to manually tweak my memory timings) - the sweet spot for the Ryzen 7000 series is DDR5 6000. That said, what model of memory are you using, and are they EXPO or XMP RAMs?
@@ALKtech I have the 9950x and i think the same mobo and thats why my xmp system doesnt work cause im running it to high or is it just a boot failure?
@@ALKtech i have that cpu and 7600mhz ram corsair dominator platinum
@@jamesharisson8389 thanks for sharing. It sounds like more of a settings issue, seeing as the Corsair RAMs have XMP profiles that are suited for Intel platforms, rather than EXPO which is targeted at AMD. If you're keen to stick with your current set of RAMs, you may want to set your memory timings manually to try and find settings that work for your 9950X - based on reviews out there thus far, the sweet spot still seems to be DDR5 6000 or DDR5 6400 for Zen 5. Have you already tried running your RAMs at DDR5 6000/6400 (though I suspect your RAMs might not even have DDR5 6000/6400 profiles loaded - correct me if I'm wrong)?
@@ALKtech i have not yet but will be sure to give it a try! thanks for this info. and also i have the g skillz 8000mhz ram aswell to pair but didnt work at 8000 either. Do u think these newer 870e could run at 7600-8000?
i have 3 pcie gen 4 m2s. There is a still cut to the Gpu x8 mode ? Even with gen 4.0 ?
Yeah that's right - the lane sharing will happen regardless of which PCIe gen of SSDs that you install; even if you install a PCIe 3.0 x4 M.2 SSD on the second PCIe 5.0 x4 M.2 slot, the primary graphics card slot will still drop down to x8 mode...
@@ALKtech this means we have actually 3 m2 usuable ports. Becease most user doesnt want to run gpu at x8 mode. And most of us use just first pcie x16 port for gpu. The other pcie will be disable with 3 m2 ssd usage but its not important. Am i right ? Right ?
@@eyluloktay9104 basically if you wanna avoid dropping your GPU to x8 mode, you can only install one Gen 5 SSD in the first M.2 slot (M2A_CPU), and one Gen 4 SSD in the third M.2 slot (M2D_SB), for a total of two M.2 drives!
@@eyluloktay9104 if you want to avoid having the GPU slot drop to x8 mode, the maximum number of M.2 SSDs that can be installed is two, one in M2A_CPU and one in M2D_SB. That said, it's worth noting that the performance difference between having your GPU operate at PCIe 4.0 x8 versus x16 mode isn't that big - there are several articles and videos out there that do PCIe bandwidth scaling tests, where the performance difference observed tends to be in the low single-digit percentage range or even negligible for that matter. What this means is that to the everyday end-user/gamer, he/she might not even notice the performance/FPS difference when running a GPU at x8 mode. Hope this helps!
@@ALKtech I bought the Asus X870 A board. Im going to use m2_1,m2_3 m2_4. Im not gonna use m2_2 becase this is share bandwith with gpu. And M2_3 share bandwith with bottom pcie slot and it will be disabled. Am i making mistakes? Thank you for your long answer btw ♥
All the affordable "E" motherboards from Gigabyte seem to be white (ugh) forcing myself to opt for the more expensive Gigabyte Master. Nice marketing move Gigabyte.
There's a black version of this board called the X870E AORUS PRO!
Does this motherboard have wifi
Yes it does!
@ALKtech if I use one ssd will that mess up my gpu? Which spot do I use
@@JustinThomas-f5y nope - if you're using just a single SSD, make sure to install it in the first M.2 slot, which is M2A_CPU!
Great Overview! Really appreciate you showing this board!
Kinda baffled though about the nvme slots. Like so what is the point of the second + fourth nvme slots even being there if they make the gpu slot go to x8 mode due to sharing cpu lanes. I understand for accessibility but basically if you want peak gpu performance for a current high end gpu or future pcie 5.0 one you really only have 2 nvme slots (first & third).
To be fair even the 4090 can barely use pcie 4.0 x16. X8 only drops performance by single digit fps. It's honestly not even worth worrying about at all. The PCIE bandwidth is already sufficient. If 50 series are 5.0 then I don't see x8 even really being a factor on performance.
Glad you found the video useful! The lane sharing situation seems to be more pronounced with X870E and X870 motherboards, and I suspect that this is due to the fact that AMD has made USB4 mandatory, where some CPU PCIe lanes have to be routed to the USB4 controller, leaving lesser lanes for other peripherals and connectors.
That said, as @prototypep4 pointed out, while the performance drop might be negligible at times, my two cents is that it's still something to take note of, especially if I were to be caught unaware about this whole PCIe lane bifurcation situation, and be unknowingly leaving performance on the table - I'd feel worse especially if I had shelled out a good amount of cash for say, a RTX 4090 and would hence expect only the very best out of my GPU!
@ALKtech While I can appreciate the argument about leaving performance on the table, current gen is not maxing out 4.0 x16 and moving to 5.0 if it runs at x8 it'll be the same bandwidth as 4.0 x16 anyway. I don't think the 5090 is going to be such a monster to require it to gain more than even 15fps at the absolute most. For benchmarking? absolutely rip out any other drives and go for gold Me personally will be doing that just to push my overclocks as hard as I can but once I've got my numbers I'm shoving in a second drive. The performance drop will be negligible and I truly hope reviewers are responsible enough to test and show what the drop will actually be.
way cheaper than A strix
How big's the price difference between both boards where you're from? If the ROG STRIX X870-A is more expensive than this board, getting the Gigabyte would be a no-brainer!
Rgb so the gay tech community is happy. 😤