I guess having white ram slots would have costed them another 2 dollars.... using white pcie slots but black ram slots makes zero sense.Thankfully Gigabyte is making truly full white boards.
@@frankwong9486 Sure but utilizing all 4 slots with DDR5 tanks memory speeds hard. Current gen CPUs be that Intel or AMD has pretty weak controllers when it comes to 4 dimm usage for example you will be lucky if you can achieve 6000mhz, 5600 is more likely to be the max
@@kerotomas1 basically all platform struggle to get high speed with 4 dimms Even t-top board If need high speed have to get a daisy chain board/ or board only have 2 dimms slot for better signal integrity , but unfortunately good overclock board in white is very rare always :(
@@frankwong9486 Nah this is only with DDR5 cpu generations. I had a 11900K build with 4 DDR4 dimms running at 3800Mhz CL14 in Gear 1 which was almost the best you can get. (By the way nowadays every single motherboard is daisy chain, T-topology died around the time of Intel 10th gen / Ryzen 3000, 2 slot motherboards can possibly yield better results but not necessarily as i tried the Z790 Apex and it couldn't do better than the Hero)
Why cant Asus make a Proper X670E/X870E White motherboard with all the features, instead they have to make None E white Board, most people would stick with Asus, but instead have to go to Gigabyte for a proper X870E white Board like the new X870E AOURUS PRO ICE.
Nice overview, but just 2 SATA ports and all that PCIe lane sharing??? I'd rather have just 1 PCIE 5.0 NVME + 3 PCIE 4.0 drives without all that bifurcation stuff.
Yeah the bifurcation stuff feels like a classic example of form over function, to be able to put it on paper that the board comes with two Gen 5 M.2 slots but at the expense of something else... That said, this lane sharing situation seems to be a thing with higher-end X870E and X870 boards from other brands too, and I'd say that this is due to chipset design limitations - with AMD making USB4 a compulsory feature, manufacturers have got to route some PCIe lanes to the USB4 controller, thereby contributing to this bifurcation situation!
Looking at the specs sheet, both boards are largely similar, though with the Gigabyte board you mentioned, you do get one more PCIe 5.0 x4 M.2 slot - but it comes with all that PCIe lane sharing stuff that will affect your graphics card slot's bandwidth. Personally, I'd prefer an all-white board for an all-white build, and the Gigabyte has white components too compared to the ASUS. In any case, I'd have to compare prices between both boards before making a decision!
Yup, if you already have a X670E/X670 motherboard, there's absolutely no reason to "upgrade" to a X870E/X870 motherboard, even though the X870E and X870 support faster DDR5 speeds too. Getting a X870E/X870 would probably be more for folks upgrading from older platforms such as AM4!
Yeap - have your first NVMe installed on M.2_1, and your second NVMe drive either on M.2_3 or M.2_4. Do note that if you have a drive installed on M.2_3, the full-length PCIe 4.0 x16 slot will be disabled entirely, which is important to note especially if you need to install say, a streaming/capture PCIe card etc.
Yup you can - this configuration of SSDs will not impact the GPU slot's bandwidth! But do note if you choose to install the PCIe 4.0 SSD on the third M.2 slot (M.2_3), the full-length PCIe 4.0 x16 slot will be disabled entirely.
Using a sound card in the second PCIe 4.0 x16 slot that operates at x4 mode won't affect the bandwidth of the primary PCIe slot for your GPU, but you will have to sacrifice the third M.2 slot, M.2_3, as it shares bandwidth with the said second PCIe slot!
@@napalmarsch it really depends - how many M.2 SSDs are you intending to use in your system? Granted, X670E boards seem to have no/little instances of PCIe lane sharing; in the absence of pricing info for X870E and X870 boards, I'm guessing that X670E and X670 boards are probably gonna get cheaper and could offer better value too, but do bear in mind you won't get features like faster memory support and USB4 support. Perhaps wait till 30 Sept for pricing details to be available, before making a decision!
@@napalmarsch I see! anyway the performance difference between running your GPU at x8 mode versus x16 mode is not going to be very big - there's some benchmark videos/articles out there that demonstrate the difference in performance when the PCIe lanes for a graphics card gets cut in half - by and large there is some performance degradation, but the percentage drop in performance tends to be in the low single-digit range or even negligible for that matter. For the everyday user/gamer, he/she is probably not going to notice any performance impact while gaming!
Keep an eye out for the upcoming Intel Arrow Lake motherboards with the 800-series chipsets, I'd think mobo manufacturers would have more white variants for these new Intel boards!
i have x670e for future upgrade it has x4 pcie 5.0... and i do not understand why i need x870 ? why they made do i get uplift FPS ? nope Can i get better latency on component? No one knows
As far as I can tell, the only reason to get a X870E/X870 board is if you need USB4, and you're upgrading from an older platform (e.g. AM4). Otherwise, a X670E board will suffice, seeing as it already supports Ryzen 9000 and potentially even Zen 6 (assuming Zen 6 is still on AM5)! I highly doubt that there will be any performance improvement at all when comparing X670 and X870!
Wifi 7 and USB4 that's it nothing more. Some higher end X670E boards already has USB4 like my ROG Hero so other than WIfi 7 it doesn't offer anything new for AM5. (and you can always replace your on-board wifi card later on so yeah.)
@@kerotomas1 yeah, I guess with the X870E and X870, it was about making USB4 available across the entire range, even for "lower-end" X870 motherboards. I personally think X670E and maybe even B650E boards will still offer better value for some time to come, until they go EOL and are no longer available new!
Check out the written review for this motherboard here: www.alktech.co/articles/review-asus-rog-strix-x870-a-gaming-wifi-am5-motherboard
I guess having white ram slots would have costed them another 2 dollars.... using white pcie slots but black ram slots makes zero sense.Thankfully Gigabyte is making truly full white boards.
Just grabbed the B650 Aorus Elite last week did a full white build no complaints
I have same question but best looking is to use 4 dimm and it is hard to see the slot if populated all4 dimms 😂
Anyway
@@frankwong9486 Sure but utilizing all 4 slots with DDR5 tanks memory speeds hard. Current gen CPUs be that Intel or AMD has pretty weak controllers when it comes to 4 dimm usage for example you will be lucky if you can achieve 6000mhz, 5600 is more likely to be the max
@@kerotomas1 basically all platform struggle to get high speed with 4 dimms
Even t-top board
If need high speed have to get a daisy chain board/ or board only have 2 dimms slot for better signal integrity , but unfortunately good overclock board in white is very rare always :(
@@frankwong9486 Nah this is only with DDR5 cpu generations. I had a 11900K build with 4 DDR4 dimms running at 3800Mhz CL14 in Gear 1 which was almost the best you can get. (By the way nowadays every single motherboard is daisy chain, T-topology died around the time of Intel 10th gen / Ryzen 3000, 2 slot motherboards can possibly yield better results but not necessarily as i tried the Z790 Apex and it couldn't do better than the Hero)
Why cant Asus make a Proper X670E/X870E White motherboard with all the features, instead they have to make None E white Board, most people would stick with Asus, but instead have to go to Gigabyte for a proper X870E white Board like the new X870E AOURUS PRO ICE.
Agree, X870 without the E in white is a bit useless. prime in white or silver is the budget non-E one but the A version got robbed!😂👍
asus is the only board with good 7.1 sound
Nice overview, but just 2 SATA ports and all that PCIe lane sharing??? I'd rather have just 1 PCIE 5.0 NVME + 3 PCIE 4.0 drives without all that bifurcation stuff.
Yeah the bifurcation stuff feels like a classic example of form over function, to be able to put it on paper that the board comes with two Gen 5 M.2 slots but at the expense of something else...
That said, this lane sharing situation seems to be a thing with higher-end X870E and X870 boards from other brands too, and I'd say that this is due to chipset design limitations - with AMD making USB4 a compulsory feature, manufacturers have got to route some PCIe lanes to the USB4 controller, thereby contributing to this bifurcation situation!
Will the gigabyte aorus white ice x870 be better than this one ?
Looking at the specs sheet, both boards are largely similar, though with the Gigabyte board you mentioned, you do get one more PCIe 5.0 x4 M.2 slot - but it comes with all that PCIe lane sharing stuff that will affect your graphics card slot's bandwidth. Personally, I'd prefer an all-white board for an all-white build, and the Gigabyte has white components too compared to the ASUS. In any case, I'd have to compare prices between both boards before making a decision!
How much is the price gonna be?
What the price of this board?
I like that screwdriver. Tell us about it.
It's a Xiaomi Precision Electric Screwdriver, and it comes with a pretty nice case and multiple replaceable heads!
@@ALKtech Thank you. My arthritic hand thanks you, too.
Tabloya göre X670E ile X870E arasında tek fark Usb 4.0 .Anakartı X870E yükseltmeye değmez.
Yup, if you already have a X670E/X670 motherboard, there's absolutely no reason to "upgrade" to a X870E/X870 motherboard, even though the X870E and X870 support faster DDR5 speeds too. Getting a X870E/X870 would probably be more for folks upgrading from older platforms such as AM4!
Good for a 9950x? I really like the design
A B650 Asus is good for 9950x.
should have onboard oc buttons, looks cool
theres power on at least
4 nvme slots perfect for me
realtek alc4080, wifi7, 20vrm, 2.5 gb lan, oh clear cmos and bios flashback, optical audio output, usb c's, damn
dont know which speed the wifi is, highend wifi6 can do 60ish mbps data transfer, which almost same as 2.5 lan
thats blazing fast wifi, try yours you prob will see 1.5mbps speed
500 bucks seems like a lot just to play bubble burst. Maybe I'll shop around.
So i should install my second NVME on the m.2_3 slot so it doesnt take bandwidth from the gpu right?
Yeap - have your first NVMe installed on M.2_1, and your second NVMe drive either on M.2_3 or M.2_4. Do note that if you have a drive installed on M.2_3, the full-length PCIe 4.0 x16 slot will be disabled entirely, which is important to note especially if you need to install say, a streaming/capture PCIe card etc.
can I install a 5.0 NVME in the first slot and a 4.0 NVME in the 3rd or 4th slot?
Yup you can - this configuration of SSDs will not impact the GPU slot's bandwidth! But do note if you choose to install the PCIe 4.0 SSD on the third M.2 slot (M.2_3), the full-length PCIe 4.0 x16 slot will be disabled entirely.
H much is it gonna cost?
The price hasn't been made public yet, though I'm guessing it's gonna be on the pricier end of X870 motherboard offerings...
How much will it costs?
Pricing info isn't available yet, though I suspect it'll be on the pricier side when compared to other brands of X870 motherboards!
So what do u expect tho? Like 400€?@@ALKtech
How much dude
ASUS hasn't released pricing info yet, though I suspect it's probably gonna be pricey...
Is it possible to use a sound card in the second slot or will it castrate the GPU?
Using a sound card in the second PCIe 4.0 x16 slot that operates at x4 mode won't affect the bandwidth of the primary PCIe slot for your GPU, but you will have to sacrifice the third M.2 slot, M.2_3, as it shares bandwidth with the said second PCIe slot!
@@ALKtech so better get an x870e or an x670e?
@@napalmarsch it really depends - how many M.2 SSDs are you intending to use in your system? Granted, X670E boards seem to have no/little instances of PCIe lane sharing; in the absence of pricing info for X870E and X870 boards, I'm guessing that X670E and X670 boards are probably gonna get cheaper and could offer better value too, but do bear in mind you won't get features like faster memory support and USB4 support. Perhaps wait till 30 Sept for pricing details to be available, before making a decision!
@@ALKtech i would like to use 3x m2 and an soundcard thats what i have with my current 11900ks and the z590
@@napalmarsch I see! anyway the performance difference between running your GPU at x8 mode versus x16 mode is not going to be very big - there's some benchmark videos/articles out there that demonstrate the difference in performance when the PCIe lanes for a graphics card gets cut in half - by and large there is some performance degradation, but the percentage drop in performance tends to be in the low single-digit range or even negligible for that matter. For the everyday user/gamer, he/she is probably not going to notice any performance impact while gaming!
Got the X870 ICE from Gigabyte full white for £250. Way better than this.
ITS SO PRETTY why is amd getting all the pretty boards :(
Keep an eye out for the upcoming Intel Arrow Lake motherboards with the 800-series chipsets, I'd think mobo manufacturers would have more white variants for these new Intel boards!
@@ALKtech i hope so, thank you for making these vids:)
i have x670e for future upgrade it has x4 pcie 5.0... and i do not understand why i need x870 ? why they made do i get uplift FPS ? nope Can i get better latency on component? No one knows
As far as I can tell, the only reason to get a X870E/X870 board is if you need USB4, and you're upgrading from an older platform (e.g. AM4). Otherwise, a X670E board will suffice, seeing as it already supports Ryzen 9000 and potentially even Zen 6 (assuming Zen 6 is still on AM5)! I highly doubt that there will be any performance improvement at all when comparing X670 and X870!
Wifi 7 and USB4 that's it nothing more. Some higher end X670E boards already has USB4 like my ROG Hero so other than WIfi 7 it doesn't offer anything new for AM5. (and you can always replace your on-board wifi card later on so yeah.)
@@kerotomas1 yeah, I guess with the X870E and X870, it was about making USB4 available across the entire range, even for "lower-end" X870 motherboards. I personally think X670E and maybe even B650E boards will still offer better value for some time to come, until they go EOL and are no longer available new!
8xx series motherboards are supposed to offer support for faster ram.
@@grizredford8407 oh yes, thanks for pointing that out too!
this m**f** looks more silber than other
We don't want x870 we want x870e