A 22 seconds gap on a very short track is extremely telling. Their upper hand on the development wars has been ridiculous. Their chink in their armor is how badly they do on dirty air without mentioning Lando's starting woes.
@@hilroydaniels5109I think Lando could have finished 30 seconds ahead purely if he felt like it. He set fastest lap on the last lap, he was holding back a lot of pace the whole race.
Mclaren is the only team that consistently brings upgrades that work. I wonder if bringing big packages instead of smaller pieces every other race like the others plays a part in that
@@fabianmok2206 I think even if Sergio does sort himself out, it's over for red bull. They need to sort out the car development (something traditionally they've been pretty good at in the past)
I wonder if Lando can have a crack at the drivers championship. I would love to see Maxipad implode and who knows what other juicy secrets will come out.
I think the drivers will also go to mclaren assuming redbull continue to cover their ears and pretend they don't need upgrades whilst the mclaren keeps getting faster and faster
Despite the "Lap 1" issues that some may focus on, Lando clearly manages his tyres really well - more often than not he seems to be able to ping back, brining the tyres in easy and then going for it. Also, awesome last lap, old tyre, fastest lap. Re RB upgrades, yes, they need to install a Sergio upgrade package.
Its almost like they baited Max to push and try to create a gap in the first 5 laps by staying back out of drs and not pushing/saving tires. Soon as Max backed off and started to settle, Lando pushed. And at that point, Max couldn't take out more tire to defend or keep up because he still had a bunch of laps until his pitstop.
@randallvargas4457 Yep, it's not like he won the MSA formula championship in 2015, Toyota Racing Series and two Formula Renault 2.0 Championships in 2016, Formula 3 in 2017, and finally a 2nd place finish in Formula 2 in 2018. Obviously just a bad driver, sure.
Compared to verstappen? Absolutely, the gap in skill is so wide he shouldn't even be allowed on the same track as max. Maclaren just have the faster car
I'm a little confused why you had such a bad performance score for Ferrari. Their quali pace was, indeed, not great, but their race pace seemed similar to Red Bull and Mercedes. You can see it very clearly in the animation you made at 7:57. Not sure it makes much sense to have the Ferrari so close to the Aston Martin, when they kept up with the Red Bulls.
british channel needed to mitigate how bad of a weekend it was for merc with quali, pace, and strategy all failing so they ignored ferrari's race pace to help 🤷♂️
It is Zandvoort - you can’t overtake except in turn 1 - Ferrari is truck that used strategy to get ahead and hold on. Keeping pace with cars that are fading in a race is not good.
Ferrari had the 2nd fastest car in Zandvoort. Once Leclerc wasn't stuck behind the slow Russell, he was matching, then gaining on Verstappen, he was also keeping Piastri behind very easily, it wasn't just that Zandvoort is tough to pass at, he couldn't stay in DRS range. Sainz easily passed Perez from a poor qualifying position, and looked considerably faster than Russell before he pitted. Ferrari might have messed up qualifying, maybe due to setup, maybe driver error, but their race pace was second only to Mclaren.
Wasn't there a rumour going around where Wache and the rest of the RB aero engineers ignored Newey's advice to NOT go into the current RB20's development direction. Looks like Newey was right lol.
The aero was still fine at the start of the season. Listen to Max on the radio, he can no longer rotate the car and tyres are being chewed because Red Bull lost their (probably illegal) asymmetric braking.
Looking into this matter reveals that this rumor might actually have some truth to it. According to a Facebook post by "This Is Formula 1", the upgrade in question came after Miami and was aimed at improving pace in low and medium-speed corners. Pics of the upgrades in question on RaceFans dot Net actually seem to line up with this: the top flap of the front wing has more angle and Red Bull's own description of their floor edge change states that it is meant to "extract more load locally". This is a fancy F1 tech way of saying "more downforce". Motorsport dot com also had an article on the matter, noting that the rear bodywork had been modified to improve cooling - something else that "This Is Formula 1" mentioned. So then, Red Bull DID introduce an upgrade, and it WAS pretty dramatic by the standards of modern F1. Did Newey really have a problem with it? Well, nobody's asked him, as far as I can tell, but Red Bull's rivals aren't idiots, and it's kinda funny how Mercedes's the talk of Red Bull's big upgrade being a downgrade started after Imola _specifically._ Granted, it's Mercedes, who love having a laugh at Red Bull's expense, but James Allison isn't usually the one talking shit, and in light of recent events? He might've been onto something. The Red Bull Racing RB20 is a car that, like its predecessor, relied on its prodigious aero efficiency coupled with a safe suspension setup to generate a healthy balance of straight-line speed and downforce with a wide-ish setup window. More load likely eats away at the efficiency of the whole package, especially when you're adding downforce via wing flaps. The cooling-focused changes can't have helped the lift/drag ratio either. Lastly, extracting more load from the floor puts more emphasis on riding low, which might've narrowed the setup window considerably. The RB20's upgrades seem to have been devised by a team that might not have fully understood the car's strengths to begin with. Now, I AM just some dipstick on the internet, but ex-F1 designer Gary Anderson wrote in an article for The Race that the upgrades confused him too. That was after practice for the -San Marino- Emilia Romagna Grand Prix, and there's been a lot of food for thought since then...
Despite the huge winning margin, for Lando to be champion it needs at least one Max DNF in a race Norris wins. A 25/6 point swing would really put the pressure on Red Bull, but just taking 5, 6 or 7 points out of their lead here and there won't be enough and there's no way Lando is winning every race remaining. Of course, 1 Norris DNF and a Max win all but finishes it off.
This also requires Lando to win basically every single race in the season, which isn't likely. Lando is gonna win 9 more races in a row? Come on, Hamilton couldn't do this in a car that was far more dominant than this McLaren. Lando has TWO wins, and one of them is due to a safety car mistake. He needs to string together consistent weekends before we start talking about him winning the title this year.
@@doghat1619 I put in my comment "there's no way Lando is winning every race remaining". It needs the DNF/race win swing plus other factors. Ferrari and Mercedes are both too inconsistent - just when you think they've cracked it, one or both put in a stinker. Yesterday it was the Mercs. So Max will cruise to the title _unless_ reliability hits him hard and Lando becomes a winning machine. At least with one DNF/Lando win it would make it closer and more interesting. Max wouldn't be able to risk anything too aggressive in wheel to wheel battles. Most likely scenario is he'll win the title by around 50 points.
0:22 the maths appears to be lando vs max not McLaren vs Red Bull as described. The actual figure for team comparison would 0.43%. Neither delta would be considered statistically significant.
I have a feeling that Red Bull might be giving up on the constructor's championship and focus on Max's championship, so they can got more allowance to make better car for next season
@@dontbesocool1991 i think FIA just thought that a verstappen dominance will steer fans away and wanted to throttle redbull. so they just went ahead and made it illegal. they've done it in the past with mercedes and ferrari. if the car starts running away, they always step in to throttle the team
Apparently on paper the January Rb20 was faster than Rb19. So no. Mclaren has just taken it up a notch. Don't think max will win another race this year. If the car doesn't respond, you fuct. Imagine neo in the matrix, but he has no input. Man would be full of holes
lando had upgrades that piastry didn’t have I thought? Plus piastry was dealing with other drivers, not saying he’s better but I don’t think the gap is as big as it seems.
Max really needs to up his game. Checo can't carry him any longer... Edit: Despite their many differences, one thing unites Team LH and the Max Fanbois, their sense of humor.
@@Reznor_Meeks Wache was carried by Newey, end of. Wache compared to Newey is still a Junior who's had the Key to a project which was the best when he took it, and now is going downhill pretty fast. When you dont have the knowledge that's what happens. Wache upgrades were a joke, so much that he's now saying that they "REACHED" the CAP of the car performance so his ass is well covered.
I think all of the progress for other teams has 100% to do with Checo crashing and showing the underside of the RBR car multiple times over. "Look, this is how we prevent the bouncing issue!" - Perez
that was a great race. McLaren are mighty again. Norris drove perfectly. Piastri will have his day. if they keep this performance up, they'll be contenders for the drivers championship and constructors too.
Piastri had his day. McLaren are really going to need to prioritise their driver who has the clear lead over the other in the driver’s championship at some point or neither of their drivers will win it
@@itsmatt517 true. only nine races left. Norris is the clear leader at McLaren. hope the team is behind Lando. at the end of the day, F1 is a business where winning is the goal. The outcome I foresee is the McLaren wins the constructors, but the drivers championship isn't so easy to predict. Max is incredible.
Redbull really downplayed the loss or Rob Marshall and made a bigger deal over Dan Fallows. It’s looking like Marshall was a bigger influence than Fallows.
What was interesting in everyone struggled with tires other than McLaren with Norris posting the fastest lap with 44 lap old hards. Did McLaren find something that has little to no tire degradation?
no, they (just norris) were just that fast that he probably was barely pushing at all for the entire second stint, so he couldve gone quicker anyway. he had enough left for the last lap. also he said he used all of his deployment
Love to see RBR getting punished for their arrogance in keeping Perez, basically saying "we can win with just one car in the fight". It looks like McLaren will easily win WCC, with WDC needing some luck on their side.
Everyone said Red Bull should sack Perez for this year or else their WCC would be under threat. They didn't listen. Now it's too late. Checo didn't score enough when he could, and it's far too late to experiment with a mid season swap for Tsunoda or Lawson. As a McLaren fan though, you won't hear me complaining...
for wdc they doesn't need SOME luck they need Multiple DNFs from max and max to finish outside of top5 everytime and norris winning each race with fastest lap
@@pepepopo8367what are you on about? If max has 2 dnfs then Norris is only 20 points off. That means just 2 races with Norris in p1 and max in p3 to tie it all up. It won't happen so easily but lando could be leading the championship in 4 races with those outcomes.
@@edbr2379one or two more wins for Max and he basically can come P2 every race to win WDC comfortably. But Redbull definitely are losing to McLaren in the WCC.
@@soundscape26 I mean winning by 20s is what set the advent of Max' dominance. We literally went from Hamilton wiping the grid to Max wiping the grid to now Norris wiping the grid. I'd prefer it if we all stopped winning by a landslide and have an actual fight for the win down to the line where margins are actually thin. Because its clear now that this McL is the new RB19 going forward.
@@soundscape26well Lando was seemingly dominant in that 1 race, wasn't he? I was really excited for this race after all the battles before the summer break but I really didn't enjoy this one.
@@ThaCampinDutchman Not quite confirmed, I think this race's winning margin will be an outlier rather than the norm, but I share your sentiment if they go on to dominate the rest of the season.
Max still has a comfortable 70 lead. Even if Lando wins all of the remaining races, if Max finishes 2nd he just needs a 3 fastest laps to win the WDC. Unless Max gets some more DNFs, McLaren gotta work on getting those 1-2s.
Monza, Azerbaijan and Singapore are three circuits that should suit the Ferrari. In addition, new parts will be fitted to the car in Monza, which should further improve performance. So it could well be that Ferrari will be among the front runners and can also take away important points to make the title fight really exciting again. If Ferrari is second behind McLaren in each of the next 3 races and takes important points away from Verstappen, the drivers' championship could also become really exciting
Just a few months ago every other video on the Race was about how aerodynamically efficient the RedBull was, how the anti-dive suspension here, the sophisticated floor this, the powerful DRS that and a very stable platform were all combining to make the RedBull invincible. What happened to all the stuff that made RedBull beat the pants off everyone? There are still on the car isn't it, but suddenly do not work? How does The Race explain that? Instead, they are now the Race is jumping ship to the McLaren bandwagon. LOL
Oscar needs to beat Max if Lando has any chance... and McLaren needs to prioritize Lando.. which they sure didn't do before and that few points missing will be needed if this keeps up
Assuming Lando will drive at the front everywhere 😂😂😂😂 Vegas, Baku, Singapore… so many different tracks. You ppl are over generalizing. Zandvoort isntany of the other tracks….
Mercedes had a good car; the problem is that they usually improve during FP3, and since Logan had crashed and made it impossible for everyone to do runs, Mercedes could not run to fine tune their overnight changes. The next race will be different for Mercedes. Max might have to settle for finishing P4 or P5 the next race with Mercedes in the Mix.
Mercedes has the lowest top speed among others , I think they can't be in top 3 this week in Monza, they are good in tracks similar to Silverstone and spa
@@HotWheelsFan06 they should have been dominating already, Imola , Spain , Canada, Silverstone were all missed chances , they could have been leading the WCC and within striking distance of the WDC
"Norris down by 70 points w/ 9 races left". You--"They're going to regret not letting Lando win that one race!" Truly, it's comical. Very very comical. You watch, Norris will win maybe 5 out of the 9 remaining races and finish around 50 points out of the championship.
@@vzwson4995who knows, if piastri can secure p2 and lando manages a fastest lap for 6-7 races - it could come down to the wire. The car's got the pace and piastri's comfortable. Just needs to work on his overtakes
The summer break has benefitted Llando. He has his mojo back and the McLaren wind tunnel is obviously confirming what the engineers have designed as improvements in the aero department. Fingers crossed McLaren win the constructors championship, at least !
Lando had NO MOJO on Thursday in interviews…… Lando had a fast car in Quali and race yes. It has nothing to do with summer break at all. Look at Lando in interviews on last Thursday… he was incredibly down beat
This dude rlly hates Ferrari. Charles had pace the same as Norris for a lot of the second stint even with old tyres and managed to gain on max from 9 seconds to 2 second gap and kept the other mclaren behind. I’d say that’s in the fight for second places not way out of the fight.
@@DarkPhoenixDack125 buddy Brunel said multiple times Charles was matching landos pace in the second stint. Norris obv wasn’t pushing but leclair was faster than Oscar Russel Lewis Carlos Perez and in the last 20 laps he was faster than max as he was having gradual gains. All with having bouncing issues in high speed. If he had maybe pitted slightly later then he would have been second but he was also busy defending against Oscar and not pushing to catch the car in front.
@@renancristyan0099 looking back at 1998 season review Mclaren also had a revolutionary brake system removed from their car allowing Ferrari to catch up 🤔 Newey is a recurring factor in both that snd this years…
This is exactly why these newbie f1 fans need to understand and respect that exact point, Lewis did have the best car for however many years but he still had to drive it, just like max. People that play the achievements of both these drivers down because of the car beneath them are talking nonsense
Piastri is considered as a number 2 driver by mclaren it's no surprise. As long as Piastri is in front of Norris he manage the race better than him... Quite strange
@@sanandreasgd7148 Nothing strange. This is true for all drivers. When they are behind, they push their cars, they waste their tires, it's hard to pass, etc.
Incredible performances by McLaren recently, this coming from a RB and max fan. Their driving also seems effortless, like almost easy. Maybe Adrian removed something as a final FU before leaving haha. However, I still have a feeling that RB will bounce back soon and at least compete. They might still have something up their sleeve
Max didn't need to race Lando as he is just managing his position with a slower car against every one else behind him so the gap didn't represent anything since max isn't chasing!
Last year red bull +20 sec this year complete swap to Lando. Incredible I'm a max fan but to see Lando get his first race win and now potentially first constructors chip and drivers chip is insane
Lando's race management was on a different level from what we've seen from him previously. If he could improve his starts from pole, he would dominate with that car. As a team, I can see McLaren winning the constructors championship this year. Lando and Piastri are likely to score points in every race, whereas it's hard to see Perez doing that.
Crazy how mclaren are already this far ahead and are still making upgrades. At this rate, either their concept stalls by 2025 and mercedes catches up, or in a year it turns out they breached the cost cap.
RB shouldve done a mechanical upgrade rather than focusin on aero, their main weakness is kerb riding doing merc like upgrades like heave dampers would've improved kerb riding performance rn theyre way to stiff
As a Max fan I realy appreciate and respect The McLaren achievements and Lando’s talent and Skills. I do hope Red Bull will find ways to have the RB20 gain more pace to give way to a fantastic race battle between fantastic race talents in which the best should win. Offcourse I hope it will be Max, but as a sportsman I find it should be the one performing the best. May we have a spectacular hard, clean and fair battle.
Because of his subdued radio messages and general demeanour? After those bursts of anger in Hungary this is a sign of maturity on his part, that attitude was not sustainable.
I mean he's just facing the straight facts. McLaren has not only closed the gap to RB, they have surpassed them. I think RB should just accept the fact that McLaren is unbeatable right now and focus on 2026. I don't think you can defend the constructors championship anymore. The wdc is still possible for next year but 2025 is gonna take a miracle upgrade for RB
Funny how Ferrari are discounted, even though they were running a fair bit quicker than Perez, and at the same pace as Max. Sure, quali is a bit of a pain now, but that race pace shouldn't be ignored, and they can definitely throw a wrench into the plans of Mclaren and Red Bull.
Since Miami, McLaren and Red Bull are the constant 1 and 2, but Ferrari and Mercedes often takes turn on being no 3. And they often have pace good enough to disrupt McLaren and Red Bull. Both Max and Lando always have the threat of at least 3 other drivers eating their points on each weekend.
It's starting to look like Norris will be needing those points Zak gave to Piastri. I wonder what will happen when Lando does miss out on the WDC by 1 point.
RB won't be the only team very worried, infact 1 team should be worried to the limit. Mercedes is regularly thrashed by both maclaren, and the customer teams shouldn't be able to outlet the constructor team
This is the first car that Newey had very little involvement with. He's stated how he was basically sidelined for most of its development and his advice fell of deaf ears. The car's been crap from the start, it's just more noticeable now other teams have smoothed out the kinks in their cars. Max has been fighting the car all season so far, he's stated it was "like driving a go- kart" due to how harsh the ride was and how unresponsive it is under heavy load.
And it's only his 2nd win ever, too. How many races have gone past? This guy wouldn't be able to cut himself out of a paper bag if you gave him scissors, let alone win a world championship with a car 10x better than everyone else's.
Is it just me or is it crazy how little Red Bull knows about their baseline this year? I’m sure upgrades have pretty diminishing returns compared to the past seasons but damn they really don’t know what to make better this year. All around balance is worse with the changes they make. I can understand the problem from a design standpoint. Hard to beat your best work
@@itsmatt517 Thats not what the OP was saying. The OP is saying Lando needs Piastri to outscore Max to take away potential points from Max. If Lando is first and Max is second every race Max is the champion.
Lots of If's there. For Lando to win you are looking at him potentially finishing P1 every race from now on with Max having a considerable decilne. Its possible sure, but very improbable.
This was only Norris's 2nd race win, and suddenly you all proclaim him to be world champion! Keep dreaming, he will be lucky to finish championship in 2nd place.
mclaren were unserious. they should have prioritized lando from the moment the car pace turned around. strategic errors on top of that have potentially caused them to lose almost 20 points for lando, which wouldve made this a legit wdc fight season. what a waste
I don’t know what you were watching with regard to characterising Ferrari and Mercedes’ weekends. BOTH teams struggled in qualifying and Ferrari were clearly significantly faster than Mercedes in the race. Bearing in mind that Ferrari still haven’t solved their (not its) problems with the Barcelona upgrade - and has a run of races upcoming that are historically their strongest - the summary that Mercedes will be more influential in the constructors title fight than Ferrari is baffling.
Over 22 seconds clear of the rest of the field, WOW I would leave the car as it is lol, just tweak for each track, one thing about McLaren is the car is good at all tracks, 2nd and 4th at Monaco, 3rd at Silverstone etc, F1 suddenly interesting again after the last 7 races, long may it continue.
McLaren really did put it on Max level as soon as Lando passed Max
Bump
The illegal car did well.
@@tubularcandy812Illegal car? What on earth are you talking about?
@@tubularcandy812 oh cope harder
@@tubularcandy812 spot the disgruntled fanboy.
I had a feeling McLaren were going to prevail but by this wide of a margin? 20 seconds?? Jesus what a statement
A 22 seconds gap on a very short track is extremely telling. Their upper hand on the development wars has been ridiculous. Their chink in their armor is how badly they do on dirty air without mentioning Lando's starting woes.
If Lando didn't bottle his start, he would've finished the race over thirty seconds in front of Max. Redbull should be worried.
McLaren dominance could bore fans
@@yerriff8115At least it’s better than Red Bull dominating again for another season.
@@hilroydaniels5109I think Lando could have finished 30 seconds ahead purely if he felt like it. He set fastest lap on the last lap, he was holding back a lot of pace the whole race.
Mclaren is the only team that consistently brings upgrades that work. I wonder if bringing big packages instead of smaller pieces every other race like the others plays a part in that
I think having upgrades that actually work are more significant than big upgrades that make the car slower like redbull.
Dont underestimate the power of knowing what you have too. Whatever McLaren are doing its working.
VCARB brought a substantial upgrade package to Barcelona, and it didn’t go well for them.
It's all about correlation
The new McLaren wind tunnel has started paying dividends!
with only a 30 point gap, as long as both Mclarens can beat Perez every race they will have the points at the end
If they both finish every race McLaren winning the manufacturers is inevitable IMO.
@@adambritain5774constructors, not manufacturers
As long as? It's definite.
Not exactly hard to do
constructors is so on, i would say they can attack the driver championship
Congrats to the entire McLaren team. The transformation over the past 18 months is nothing short of incredible.
Its actually since 2012….
I’m talking about adapting the car to the current rules.
22 second gap at the end meclaren are definitely taking the constructors championship
If Sergio doesn’t buck up its almost certain
@@fabianmok2206 I think even if Sergio does sort himself out, it's over for red bull. They need to sort out the car development (something traditionally they've been pretty good at in the past)
I wonder if Lando can have a crack at the drivers championship. I would love to see Maxipad implode and who knows what other juicy secrets will come out.
@@DJN4CERcan you imagine the RPM video?
I think the drivers will also go to mclaren assuming redbull continue to cover their ears and pretend they don't need upgrades whilst the mclaren keeps getting faster and faster
I’ve basically forgotten the Dutch national anthem
Bet you know the Italian one though, it’s such a jolly tune!
Oh you poor thing having to endure that all of 2022 and 2023.
Bring it back
@@chinwyianno it's time for a change
@@talkietime6856 you had to and still have to listen to the British anthem 😂😂
Despite the "Lap 1" issues that some may focus on, Lando clearly manages his tyres really well - more often than not he seems to be able to ping back, brining the tyres in easy and then going for it. Also, awesome last lap, old tyre, fastest lap. Re RB upgrades, yes, they need to install a Sergio upgrade package.
That problem is known as a skill gap. Let's see how long Lando's car can last; it's his only chance.
Its almost like they baited Max to push and try to create a gap in the first 5 laps by staying back out of drs and not pushing/saving tires. Soon as Max backed off and started to settle, Lando pushed. And at that point, Max couldn't take out more tire to defend or keep up because he still had a bunch of laps until his pitstop.
@randallvargas4457 Yep, it's not like he won the MSA formula championship in 2015, Toyota Racing Series and two Formula Renault 2.0 Championships in 2016, Formula 3 in 2017, and finally a 2nd place finish in Formula 2 in 2018. Obviously just a bad driver, sure.
Compared to verstappen? Absolutely, the gap in skill is so wide he shouldn't even be allowed on the same track as max.
Maclaren just have the faster car
@@Sbinnnala about as narrow-minded as the edge of a piece of paper.
I'm a little confused why you had such a bad performance score for Ferrari. Their quali pace was, indeed, not great, but their race pace seemed similar to Red Bull and Mercedes. You can see it very clearly in the animation you made at 7:57. Not sure it makes much sense to have the Ferrari so close to the Aston Martin, when they kept up with the Red Bulls.
british channel needed to mitigate how bad of a weekend it was for merc with quali, pace, and strategy all failing so they ignored ferrari's race pace to help 🤷♂️
It is Zandvoort - you can’t overtake except in turn 1 - Ferrari is truck that used strategy to get ahead and hold on. Keeping pace with cars that are fading in a race is not good.
typical British channel
@@mattbilello6229Ferrari's truck finished 3s behind Verstappen after Russel slowed them down a lot in the first stint.
Ferrari had the 2nd fastest car in Zandvoort. Once Leclerc wasn't stuck behind the slow Russell, he was matching, then gaining on Verstappen, he was also keeping Piastri behind very easily, it wasn't just that Zandvoort is tough to pass at, he couldn't stay in DRS range. Sainz easily passed Perez from a poor qualifying position, and looked considerably faster than Russell before he pitted. Ferrari might have messed up qualifying, maybe due to setup, maybe driver error, but their race pace was second only to Mclaren.
Wasn't there a rumour going around where Wache and the rest of the RB aero engineers ignored Newey's advice to NOT go into the current RB20's development direction. Looks like Newey was right lol.
Newey PR
The aero was still fine at the start of the season. Listen to Max on the radio, he can no longer rotate the car and tyres are being chewed because Red Bull lost their (probably illegal) asymmetric braking.
@@ab8jeh maybe coz Max not having the confidence to attack those corners.
Looking into this matter reveals that this rumor might actually have some truth to it. According to a Facebook post by "This Is Formula 1", the upgrade in question came after Miami and was aimed at improving pace in low and medium-speed corners.
Pics of the upgrades in question on RaceFans dot Net actually seem to line up with this: the top flap of the front wing has more angle and Red Bull's own description of their floor edge change states that it is meant to "extract more load locally". This is a fancy F1 tech way of saying "more downforce".
Motorsport dot com also had an article on the matter, noting that the rear bodywork had been modified to improve cooling - something else that "This Is Formula 1" mentioned.
So then, Red Bull DID introduce an upgrade, and it WAS pretty dramatic by the standards of modern F1. Did Newey really have a problem with it? Well, nobody's asked him, as far as I can tell, but Red Bull's rivals aren't idiots, and it's kinda funny how Mercedes's the talk of Red Bull's big upgrade being a downgrade started after Imola _specifically._ Granted, it's Mercedes, who love having a laugh at Red Bull's expense, but James Allison isn't usually the one talking shit, and in light of recent events? He might've been onto something.
The Red Bull Racing RB20 is a car that, like its predecessor, relied on its prodigious aero efficiency coupled with a safe suspension setup to generate a healthy balance of straight-line speed and downforce with a wide-ish setup window. More load likely eats away at the efficiency of the whole package, especially when you're adding downforce via wing flaps. The cooling-focused changes can't have helped the lift/drag ratio either. Lastly, extracting more load from the floor puts more emphasis on riding low, which might've narrowed the setup window considerably.
The RB20's upgrades seem to have been devised by a team that might not have fully understood the car's strengths to begin with. Now, I AM just some dipstick on the internet, but ex-F1 designer Gary Anderson wrote in an article for The Race that the upgrades confused him too. That was after practice for the -San Marino- Emilia Romagna Grand Prix, and there's been a lot of food for thought since then...
We need you writing the opinion pieces on F1 sites because that actually sounds plausible and was good to read.
Despite the huge winning margin, for Lando to be champion it needs at least one Max DNF in a race Norris wins. A 25/6 point swing would really put the pressure on Red Bull, but just taking 5, 6 or 7 points out of their lead here and there won't be enough and there's no way Lando is winning every race remaining. Of course, 1 Norris DNF and a Max win all but finishes it off.
Well if they get Oscar ahead of Max and it seems RB might struggle at tracks like Singapore and potentially Baku , they might not need crashes
This also requires Lando to win basically every single race in the season, which isn't likely. Lando is gonna win 9 more races in a row?
Come on, Hamilton couldn't do this in a car that was far more dominant than this McLaren. Lando has TWO wins, and one of them is due to a safety car mistake. He needs to string together consistent weekends before we start talking about him winning the title this year.
@@doghat1619 I put in my comment "there's no way Lando is winning every race remaining". It needs the DNF/race win swing plus other factors. Ferrari and Mercedes are both too inconsistent - just when you think they've cracked it, one or both put in a stinker. Yesterday it was the Mercs. So Max will cruise to the title _unless_ reliability hits him hard and Lando becomes a winning machine. At least with one DNF/Lando win it would make it closer and more interesting. Max wouldn't be able to risk anything too aggressive in wheel to wheel battles. Most likely scenario is he'll win the title by around 50 points.
He will need MV to DNF at least twice.
Hearing the RB20 has a narrow performance window all of a sudden is wild
0:22 the maths appears to be lando vs max not McLaren vs Red Bull as described. The actual figure for team comparison would 0.43%. Neither delta would be considered statistically significant.
bros appeared out of nowhere. hi bro. wen r u next uploading a vid
im a big fan
Lmao, dude don’t destroy the “journalists”
Can you get statistically significant differences when the gaps are literally 10th of a second over a base of 75s?
Hope you're doing well CY! If you're not burned out, we'd love another video!
I have a feeling that Red Bull might be giving up on the constructor's championship and focus on Max's championship, so they can got more allowance to make better car for next season
I'm just saying... Someone check the cost cap
McLaren will win the championship without breaking the cost cap, unlike Red Bull.
Still shocking cus that RB20 was a rocket 🚀 beginning of the season. Can they swap to RB19 instead 😅
Nah coz that RB19 does have assymetric braking system on it. Not allowed. 😊
Also that car is still slower than this year's car. Everyone improved.
@@dontbesocool1991 i think FIA just thought that a verstappen dominance will steer fans away and wanted to throttle redbull. so they just went ahead and made it illegal. they've done it in the past with mercedes and ferrari. if the car starts running away, they always step in to throttle the team
Apparently on paper the January Rb20 was faster than Rb19. So no.
Mclaren has just taken it up a notch. Don't think max will win another race this year. If the car doesn't respond, you fuct. Imagine neo in the matrix, but he has no input. Man would be full of holes
@@tycondero1647not but that much, RB went backwards also
That McLaren is a rocketship.
Piastri didn't seem great which was weird in comparison to Lando
Iffy race pace is a fairly common problem with Oscar.
He was in dirt air. Also, Landos just a better driver than Piastri.
Lando is a much more experienced driver than Oscar more like.
He's been in F1 for 1& half seasons, he's only just left rookie status
lando had upgrades that piastry didn’t have I thought? Plus piastry was dealing with other drivers, not saying he’s better but I don’t think the gap is as big as it seems.
Mclaren definitely winning constructers now
Max really needs to up his game. Checo can't carry him any longer...
Edit: Despite their many differences, one thing unites Team LH and the Max Fanbois, their sense of humor.
The fk u on about, Max is driving the RB to the absolute maximum but it's just inferior to Mclaren pace.
@@MultiMandarijn He was joking mate. Chill the FO.
@@MultiMandarijn I also don't like it when people make jokes on the internet
Lando is miles better than LH
@@MultiMandarijn Checo is clearly the stronger driver at RB. He's the only reason they have any hope of getting the WCC.
Nah man 20 sec gap in the end is insane
You're absolutely right. Max pushing his car to the absolute limit the entire race. He was trying to catch Norris, I swear!
Would be interesting to see who the key people are behind these upgrades
🤔 ummmm, Rob Marshall 😁😂
Red bull claimed Newey doesnt make a difference. I guess it does now huh.
Well if you want use this logic, where was the brilliance of Newey between 2014-2020?
You see how your logic is flawed ?
@@Reznor_Meeks in 2014-engine was shit. Remind me when did they get Honda?
@@Reznor_Meeks Wache was carried by Newey, end of. Wache compared to Newey is still a Junior who's had the Key to a project which was the best when he took it, and now is going downhill pretty fast.
When you dont have the knowledge that's what happens.
Wache upgrades were a joke, so much that he's now saying that they "REACHED" the CAP of the car performance so his ass is well covered.
@musiccd1896 Newey stood down from a lot of design work when thr hybrids came in. Didn't want his name attached to them.
I think all of the progress for other teams has 100% to do with Checo crashing and showing the underside of the RBR car multiple times over.
"Look, this is how we prevent the bouncing issue!" - Perez
that was a great race. McLaren are mighty again.
Norris drove perfectly. Piastri will have his day.
if they keep this performance up, they'll be contenders for the drivers championship and constructors too.
Piastri had his day. McLaren are really going to need to prioritise their driver who has the clear lead over the other in the driver’s championship at some point or neither of their drivers will win it
@@itsmatt517 true. only nine races left. Norris is the clear leader at McLaren. hope the team is behind Lando. at the end of the day, F1 is a business where winning is the goal. The outcome I foresee is the McLaren wins the constructors, but the drivers championship isn't so easy to predict. Max is incredible.
As a long suffering McLaren fan, this was so awesome to watch 😜
McLaren haven t won the constructors championship since 1998 or 1999, and haven’t been a constant winner since 2012 season.
@@alx.972 I know 🤷♂️
Hence long suffering
Redbull really downplayed the loss or Rob Marshall and made a bigger deal over Dan Fallows. It’s looking like Marshall was a bigger influence than Fallows.
I think key engineers in Red Bull have become fed up with the politics and gone to a better team with a more conducive working environment.
@@chrisfarr2114i mean when you poach engineers from merc..seems more like karma to me
The cost cap and CFD/wind tunnel testing limitations have worked then
What was interesting in everyone struggled with tires other than McLaren with Norris posting the fastest lap with 44 lap old hards. Did McLaren find something that has little to no tire degradation?
Something ILLEGAL ???.....😏😏
no, they (just norris) were just that fast that he probably was barely pushing at all for the entire second stint, so he couldve gone quicker anyway. he had enough left for the last lap. also he said he used all of his deployment
Fastest lap on old ass tyres? Sure thing…
Finally, there's some competition.
I am new to f1 racing. Started watching this year, and this channel is amazing. Thank you for all the great videos you keep posting.
Rebuild also had a 4.4 sec pitstop for Checo ☠️
If only there were a few more races left. The end of the season is going to get spicy but Piastri is going to have to play his part
"You can't build a championship contending car as a customer team"
Love to see RBR getting punished for their arrogance in keeping Perez, basically saying "we can win with just one car in the fight". It looks like McLaren will easily win WCC, with WDC needing some luck on their side.
Perez lives rent free in that empty head of yours😂
Everyone said Red Bull should sack Perez for this year or else their WCC would be under threat. They didn't listen.
Now it's too late. Checo didn't score enough when he could, and it's far too late to experiment with a mid season swap for Tsunoda or Lawson. As a McLaren fan though, you won't hear me complaining...
for wdc they doesn't need SOME luck they need Multiple DNFs from max and max to finish outside of top5 everytime and norris winning each race with fastest lap
@@pepepopo8367what are you on about? If max has 2 dnfs then Norris is only 20 points off. That means just 2 races with Norris in p1 and max in p3 to tie it all up. It won't happen so easily but lando could be leading the championship in 4 races with those outcomes.
@@edbr2379one or two more wins for Max and he basically can come P2 every race to win WDC comfortably. But Redbull definitely are losing to McLaren in the WCC.
the red bull hate machine back on track.
The Race must be loving it
Dont even know why we allow these brexit people to be among us.
Apparently now we should appreciate dominance and question the second place team for not bringing up the fight.. wonder what has changed....
British winning lol
A dominance of 1 race? We'll complain when Lando wins 10 races in a row.
@@soundscape26 I mean winning by 20s is what set the advent of Max' dominance. We literally went from Hamilton wiping the grid to Max wiping the grid to now Norris wiping the grid.
I'd prefer it if we all stopped winning by a landslide and have an actual fight for the win down to the line where margins are actually thin. Because its clear now that this McL is the new RB19 going forward.
@@soundscape26well Lando was seemingly dominant in that 1 race, wasn't he? I was really excited for this race after all the battles before the summer break but I really didn't enjoy this one.
@@ThaCampinDutchman Not quite confirmed, I think this race's winning margin will be an outlier rather than the norm, but I share your sentiment if they go on to dominate the rest of the season.
Max still has a comfortable 70 lead. Even if Lando wins all of the remaining races, if Max finishes 2nd he just needs a 3 fastest laps to win the WDC. Unless Max gets some more DNFs, McLaren gotta work on getting those 1-2s.
forgot to add the sprint races to the equation
Monza, Azerbaijan and Singapore are three circuits that should suit the Ferrari. In addition, new parts will be fitted to the car in Monza, which should further improve performance. So it could well be that Ferrari will be among the front runners and can also take away important points to make the title fight really exciting again.
If Ferrari is second behind McLaren in each of the next 3 races and takes important points away from Verstappen, the drivers' championship could also become really exciting
Just a few months ago every other video on the Race was about how aerodynamically efficient the RedBull was, how the anti-dive suspension here, the sophisticated floor this, the powerful DRS that and a very stable platform were all combining to make the RedBull invincible. What happened to all the stuff that made RedBull beat the pants off everyone? There are still on the car isn't it, but suddenly do not work? How does The Race explain that?
Instead, they are now the Race is jumping ship to the McLaren bandwagon. LOL
it'd be good to see McLaren get both titles
Christian horner should wait outside neweys house with a boombox begging for him to comeback.
Ever heard of the term "ego" 😂😂😂
@@theligerloverman Newey is good, but the idea that one person alone can determine the outcome of the performance of car is ridiculous
Or he can fix his f**king car
Oscar needs to beat Max if Lando has any chance... and McLaren needs to prioritize Lando.. which they sure didn't do before and that few points missing will be needed if this keeps up
Assuming Lando will drive at the front everywhere 😂😂😂😂 Vegas, Baku, Singapore… so many different tracks. You ppl are over generalizing. Zandvoort isntany of the other tracks….
I hope they bring back RB18/RB19 philosophy design back in 25
Andrew Newey got exposed in 2024.
finally this league has some action
Mercedes had a good car; the problem is that they usually improve during FP3, and since Logan had crashed and made it impossible for everyone to do runs, Mercedes could not run to fine tune their overnight changes. The next race will be different for Mercedes. Max might have to settle for finishing P4 or P5 the next race with Mercedes in the Mix.
Mercedes has the lowest top speed among others , I think they can't be in top 3 this week in Monza, they are good in tracks similar to Silverstone and spa
Even Lewis commented about this the car slower than last few races@@No-Name360
@@lionheart650 it depends on the upgrades they bought, sometimes it might be as expected sometimes not
Nice to see Max was overtaken by Lando, which was opposite previously
They need to fix the race starts. I don't know if it is a traction problem, clutch, but they need attention asap!
There's nothing to fix. Lando is just incompetent.
@@haniotis3421 Well their reaction times were same and if you managed to see the onboard you would've noticed how there was no traction for Mclaren
@@aravindhdeivag111 it's comical that Norris can't start well, it really is
So proud of Norris he is doing a great job Piastri is shaping up nicely too just a shame this weekend he couldn’t get the podium.
it was super nice to see mclaren in front again, and beat the great rb in this new concept car.. finally f1 good to watch again
They had the best car for the last races but managed to get only 2 wins.
True, they have been wasting the car and will always waste it.
So F1 is only bad to watch when Red Bull dominates? If it's any other team it's good?
@@iLeventemclaren isn’t dominating yet and everyone loves an underdog
@@HotWheelsFan06 they should have been dominating already, Imola , Spain , Canada, Silverstone were all missed chances , they could have been leading the WCC and within striking distance of the WDC
Every team on the grid has to be very worried. I can't believe the margain of victory.
I know! The way Max was holding the car back--rather than lose by 8 seconds he chose to lose by 20!
Mclaren are going to regret forcing Lando to give up the win to Oscar.
"Norris down by 70 points w/ 9 races left". You--"They're going to regret not letting Lando win that one race!" Truly, it's comical. Very very comical. You watch, Norris will win maybe 5 out of the 9 remaining races and finish around 50 points out of the championship.
RedBull can still have a mechanical failure man it's not because they let Piastri win that it will make a difference
Norris is too far out of the hunt. Max will need multiple DNFs and Lando needs multiple wins to even have a remote chance.
@@vzwson4995who knows, if piastri can secure p2 and lando manages a fastest lap for 6-7 races - it could come down to the wire. The car's got the pace and piastri's comfortable. Just needs to work on his overtakes
@@haniotis3421 calm down mate 🤣
The difference in pace is crazy. Almost unbelievable…
The summer break has benefitted Llando. He has his mojo back and the McLaren wind tunnel is obviously confirming what the engineers have designed as improvements in the aero department. Fingers crossed McLaren win the constructors championship, at least !
Lando had NO MOJO on Thursday in interviews……
Lando had a fast car in Quali and race yes.
It has nothing to do with summer break at all. Look at Lando in interviews on last Thursday… he was incredibly down beat
This dude rlly hates Ferrari. Charles had pace the same as Norris for a lot of the second stint even with old tyres and managed to gain on max from 9 seconds to 2 second gap and kept the other mclaren behind. I’d say that’s in the fight for second places not way out of the fight.
You're dilusional if you think Ferrari have any chance at the constructors.
If he really had the same pace as Norris, he would have been in 2nd. The fact he couldn't do that in the first stint either speaks for itself.
@@blueguy12345 did I say that 🤡🤡🤡
@@DarkPhoenixDack125 buddy Brunel said multiple times Charles was matching landos pace in the second stint. Norris obv wasn’t pushing but leclair was faster than Oscar Russel Lewis Carlos Perez and in the last 20 laps he was faster than max as he was having gradual gains. All with having bouncing issues in high speed. If he had maybe pitted slightly later then he would have been second but he was also busy defending against Oscar and not pushing to catch the car in front.
Ferrari had pace for 3rd place
The impact of newey exiting RB slowed them down..
Go McLaren!!
So awesome to see them with the fastest car again.
Expect some more "racing incidents" from Max as Lando closes in for the title. Go on Lando!!
Lest's hope for a windy Monza race! Seems that's RB's kryptonite
I wonder if Adrian Newey leaving Red Bull had an effect on their current performance
It did 😅
@@MooNwALKER....amazing how they have slumped as soon as the announcement
Pops probably put a killswitch for the rocket mode in his cars
@@renancristyan0099 looking back at 1998 season review Mclaren also had a revolutionary brake system removed from their car allowing Ferrari to catch up 🤔 Newey is a recurring factor in both that snd this years…
It’s never just the car, it’s the driver too. The same car in other hands finished p4, 30 seconds down the road.
This is exactly why these newbie f1 fans need to understand and respect that exact point, Lewis did have the best car for however many years but he still had to drive it, just like max. People that play the achievements of both these drivers down because of the car beneath them are talking nonsense
@@azamatbagatov7486Exactly. Those same people use the ‘anyone would win at that car’ excuse. Like no, not anyone would win in said car.
Are you sure it's always the same car w/ exact same upgrades and car features every race?
Piastri is considered as a number 2 driver by mclaren it's no surprise. As long as Piastri is in front of Norris he manage the race better than him... Quite strange
@@sanandreasgd7148 Nothing strange. This is true for all drivers. When they are behind, they push their cars, they waste their tires, it's hard to pass, etc.
Incredible performances by McLaren recently, this coming from a RB and max fan. Their driving also seems effortless, like almost easy. Maybe Adrian removed something as a final FU before leaving haha. However, I still have a feeling that RB will bounce back soon and at least compete. They might still have something up their sleeve
Not only thrashing redbull but also fastest lap on the last lap with a 44 laps old hard compound tyres.
Statement with an exclamation point🤯
Anyone blaming Max is dumb. After Lando pass Max, other drivers doesn't close the gap that much to Max, the car is at its limit.
Max didn't need to race Lando as he is just managing his position with a slower car against every one else behind him so the gap didn't represent anything since max isn't chasing!
😂@@mannjoya68
no one blamed max. he was in the second fastest car and he finished second. the best he couldve done.
@@mannjoya68 Yeah also you know why Perez didn't push, because he could've easily overtook Max and cost him points 😂
Last year red bull +20 sec this year complete swap to Lando. Incredible I'm a max fan but to see Lando get his first race win and now potentially first constructors chip and drivers chip is insane
As a Max and Red Bull fan I'm glad to see this. No matter who I pull for I don't want them winning multiple back to back championships.
Lando's race management was on a different level from what we've seen from him previously. If he could improve his starts from pole, he would dominate with that car. As a team, I can see McLaren winning the constructors championship this year. Lando and Piastri are likely to score points in every race, whereas it's hard to see Perez doing that.
Great scraps on track loading. Awesome season.
It’s over for Max Lando will be crowned in Abu Dubai
No DNFs will decide. If Lando get a DNF he will never catch Max and If Max gets 1 or 2 DNF he will likely lose
Crazy how mclaren are already this far ahead and are still making upgrades. At this rate, either their concept stalls by 2025 and mercedes catches up, or in a year it turns out they breached the cost cap.
No one else notices that the downfall started when Newey announced there he was leaving? Take a look before v after his announcement.
it's irrelevant.
Yup i noticed that. I think thats whats happening
@@GameOver-nm2us Its very relevant. It means that it was more Newey and his design than Max and his driving.
@@1BadPrixGoing by that logic, doesn't Lando's win be more on the McLaren's upgrade on the car rather than his driving?
@@mangatom192 yes.
Mclaren took the head engineer from red bull and head engineer from ferrari,not newey and now they got 2 top engineers for perfmormance
This season definitely got more spicy.
They really pulled a Verstappen on Verstappen
Was really hoping that after max got passed he would come back at Lando and they would have an inchident. Allowing my goat lance stroll to win the GP.
RB shouldve done a mechanical upgrade rather than focusin on aero, their main weakness is kerb riding doing merc like upgrades like heave dampers would've improved kerb riding performance rn theyre way to stiff
The whole issue is they ignored newey advise as wache states maybe theybshouldnhave stayed woth the rb19 concept
There’s a pretty good chance the rules updates closed a loophole that RedBull were leveraging
As a Max fan I realy appreciate and respect The McLaren achievements and Lando’s talent and Skills. I do hope Red Bull will find ways to have the RB20 gain more pace to give way to a fantastic race battle between fantastic race talents in which the best should win. Offcourse I hope it will be Max, but as a sportsman I find it should be the one performing the best. May we have a spectacular hard, clean and fair battle.
What’s astounding is the hit it’s taken to Max’s confidence. He’s resigned himself to having the slower car and there’s nothing he can do about it.
Nothing wrong with his confidence, if he didn't have that he wouldn't be in P2 with that dog of a car.
i mean, that's the only practical answer?
What is he supposed to do in your eyes?
Because of his subdued radio messages and general demeanour? After those bursts of anger in Hungary this is a sign of maturity on his part, that attitude was not sustainable.
Dog of a car? My brother they are still 1st 😂 @@alicekoppenol-pitti6257
I mean he's just facing the straight facts. McLaren has not only closed the gap to RB, they have surpassed them.
I think RB should just accept the fact that McLaren is unbeatable right now and focus on 2026. I don't think you can defend the constructors championship anymore. The wdc is still possible for next year but 2025 is gonna take a miracle upgrade for RB
What happened to Mercedes? They looked really quick but somehow just went backwards
Funny how Ferrari are discounted, even though they were running a fair bit quicker than Perez, and at the same pace as Max. Sure, quali is a bit of a pain now, but that race pace shouldn't be ignored, and they can definitely throw a wrench into the plans of Mclaren and Red Bull.
Since Miami, McLaren and Red Bull are the constant 1 and 2, but Ferrari and Mercedes often takes turn on being no 3. And they often have pace good enough to disrupt McLaren and Red Bull. Both Max and Lando always have the threat of at least 3 other drivers eating their points on each weekend.
WDC is to play for.
If redbull cant roll out any significant developments, this championship could go to the wire!
It's starting to look like Norris will be needing those points Zak gave to Piastri. I wonder what will happen when Lando does miss out on the WDC by 1 point.
RB won't be the only team very worried, infact 1 team should be worried to the limit. Mercedes is regularly thrashed by both maclaren, and the customer teams shouldn't be able to outlet the constructor team
Imagine Lando's starts and McLaren strategies being as good as their car development team...
Might just have a prober title fight this year.
This is the first car that Newey had very little involvement with. He's stated how he was basically sidelined for most of its development and his advice fell of deaf ears. The car's been crap from the start, it's just more noticeable now other teams have smoothed out the kinks in their cars. Max has been fighting the car all season so far, he's stated it was "like driving a go- kart" due to how harsh the ride was and how unresponsive it is under heavy load.
WOW McLaren is so fast and keeps getting faster. Going to make for a great Constructors title.
This is Lando's best season ever
oh really
More like the teams best season ever
By being 70 points behind Max while sitting in the clear fastest car for most of the sesson? Delusional.
@@Loki-ew6gg bro, the late 80's- early 90's with Senna are the best McLaren years. Wtf are you talking about.
And it's only his 2nd win ever, too. How many races have gone past? This guy wouldn't be able to cut himself out of a paper bag if you gave him scissors, let alone win a world championship with a car 10x better than everyone else's.
I wonder if at the end of the season McLaren will regret that "let him pass" instruction?
If Lando loses out to Max by less than 7 points ...
Is it just me or is it crazy how little Red Bull knows about their baseline this year? I’m sure upgrades have pretty diminishing returns compared to the past seasons but damn they really don’t know what to make better this year. All around balance is worse with the changes they make. I can understand the problem from a design standpoint. Hard to beat your best work
If Piastri can remember how to drive and Ferrari keep matching RB in race trim, I don’t see Max winning the championship.
It’s not Piastri who has the best chance of stopping Max from winning the driver’s championship this year
@@itsmatt517 Thats not what the OP was saying. The OP is saying Lando needs Piastri to outscore Max to take away potential points from Max. If Lando is first and Max is second every race Max is the champion.
Lots of If's there. For Lando to win you are looking at him potentially finishing P1 every race from now on with Max having a considerable decilne. Its possible sure, but very improbable.
@@1BadPrix Hopefully he can do that without Lando having to give up 1st place again to let him win
This was only Norris's 2nd race win, and suddenly you all proclaim him to be world champion! Keep dreaming, he will be lucky to finish championship in 2nd place.
mclaren were unserious. they should have prioritized lando from the moment the car pace turned around. strategic errors on top of that have potentially caused them to lose almost 20 points for lando, which wouldve made this a legit wdc fight season. what a waste
Double it because Max gained as much
Im starting to believe that the technical directive was put in for red bull all i can hear is Vestapen complaining about the car not turning
What happened to Piastri's McLaren? Let's give Lando some credit here.
Imagine if Lando does come within 7 points of catching Max by the end of the season in the Driver’s Championship
Mclaren will be kicking themselves although that is very unlikely
I don’t know what you were watching with regard to characterising Ferrari and Mercedes’ weekends. BOTH teams struggled in qualifying and Ferrari were clearly significantly faster than Mercedes in the race. Bearing in mind that Ferrari still haven’t solved their (not its) problems with the Barcelona upgrade - and has a run of races upcoming that are historically their strongest - the summary that Mercedes will be more influential in the constructors title fight than Ferrari is baffling.
mclaren I saw few video expanding with of tire and axle in back by inch or so
Over 22 seconds clear of the rest of the field, WOW I would leave the car as it is lol, just tweak for each track, one thing about McLaren is the car is good at all tracks, 2nd and 4th at Monaco, 3rd at Silverstone etc, F1 suddenly interesting again after the last 7 races, long may it continue.
Right, 3rd at Silverstone, 4th at Spa....it's a great car worthy of being 40-50 points behind in the driver's championship....lol