A legend to never go to the playoffs, or a Superbowl. He had some amazing skills for a QB. He was running for his life. His offensive line was so horrible.
So true. He was one of those unfortunate talented athletes who were kept down by terrible teams. I see athletes like Mike Trout, and can't help but lament all that wasted talent.
The Saints had perpetually terrible defenses every year Archie played with them. You would think with their bad record every year they could draft some decent players. Bit not the case.. 😮
The owner of the Saints was asked why he wouldn't hire Archie an offensive line to protect him and some receivers who could get open and catch a football. He replied, "Why spend all that money? Archie will fill the stadium every home game." I grew up 20 miles from Ole Miss and watched him play college ball 4 years. He was amazing!!
If there had been unrestricted free agency and salary cap in his day he'd have moved on to a good team and won championships before his rookie contract was up. He was a thrill to watch, and as a Rams fan back then I used to hate him because somehow he'd always find a way to beat us when the Rams' win % was in the 70s and the Saints' was in the 20s. The teams he was on were so terrible I felt sorry for the guy even though at the time the Saints were in our division. Just his poor luck that that talent was wasted by the Saints' owner, whose only concern was butts in seats. I know he's proud of his sons but it's gotta kill him that he was never on a championship team in his career and isn't in the HOF with Peyton as a result.
Jim Plunkett, the only player to be drafted ahead of Archie Manning in 1971, had the good fortunate of being traded to San Francisco, and then to Oakland (where he blossomed). If only Archie had been traded to either the L.A. Rams or Chicago Bears in 1976 -- both of whom were clearly hurting at the QB position at the time. He'd probably be in the Hall of Fame.
Imagine Pat Mahomes with better footwork but similar creativity playing on the worst team in football with no o-line and trash receivers. That's Archie Manning. He was my favorite QB as a boy, I really looked forward to the weeks where the Saints played, even though I wasn't a fan. I was an Archie fan. I'd have rather had him on my dream team of the 70s than Staubach, Griese, Stabler or Bradshaw. The only guy as good was Tarkenton. Some of his greatest plays ever will never make the highlight reels because in a typical game at least once he'd make an unbelievable scramble, break out of three tackles and then throw a 40 yard dime on a dead run...and the no good receiver would drop the ball.
Ive been a die hard Saints fan since even before Archie - but I loved #8 - he had some damn good numbers considering he NEVER had a decent O-Line blocking for him
Crazy play starting at 2:39 where Archie (8) throws an underhand pass to Mike Renfro (82) on a broken play. That game was in ‘82, the strike shortened year and Archie was playing for Houston.
The name "Ed Biles" will never be remembered in lists including Belichik, Ewbank, Shula, Noll, Walsh, etc. He supposedly played a part in Bum Phillips' controversial firing. That and the Oilers becoming a doormat under Biles didn't quite endear Biles to "Luv Ya Blue" fans.
I remember that play very vividly. Also, as an Oiler where he was sacked 4 straight times for about a total of 30 yards lost resulting in a safety against the NY Giants. I think that was '82 as well. Oilers couldn't win more than 2 or 3 games in a season that era. Archie was right. The Oilers were even worse than the Saints during that post- Luv Ya Blue era.
Makes me sad. My late father used to cut Archie's hair at his dad's shop in Eastgate shopping center in Oxford. At Ole Miss Archie was almost like a God. Tiny little Oxford, Ms, had a claim to fame.
The one other thing about Archie; he is also a good man. He started the Ronald McDonald house in New Orleans, given of his time to charities, and infused that into his sons who have carried on good works.
Terry Bradshaw and The Steelers started out from the same exact place as Archie Manning and The Saints: In Bradshaw’s rookie year, the Steelers were 5-9, then they were 6-8. That was 1970 and 1971. In 1969, the season before Bradshaw joined The Steelers, Chuck Noll and Company was 1-13. Yet The Steelers GOT THE PLAYERS, and BUILT A DYNASTY. The Saints could have done the same thing, but didn’t. Bad Decision-Making. Bad Management. Losing Team, Losing Philosophy.
Archie Manning had a powerful arm, but he should have been a Hall of Fame, if he won a Super Bowl or played with excellent offensive line. The Saints back then when he played was very terrible and couldn’t get his team to win games.
Lowest lifetime winning percentage among NFL QBs with 100 or more games played. Most times sacked. An entire career with minimal or no supporting cast, it's a miracle that Archie wasn't left mentally broken.
I've seen people call him overrated, but that doesn't make sense because he's only though of highly by Saints fans. Everyone else knows him as Peyton and Eli Manning's dad
What happens if Archie is a rookie in 86 when Jim Mora arrived? What happens if Manning is the QB instead of Bobby😮 Hebert? ... Just wondering out loud!
You can blame ownership and general management to not built a team around a star had 10 years to do it so it shows you the people that ran the saints had no type of knowledge and understanding of football and how to draft and organize a winning team
Thats time period of The BROWN PAPER BAGS with letters AINTS.. ARCHIE was a great QB with misfortune of BAD TEAMS.. OILERS & SAINTS. Bur his two sons Eli & Peyton M. Brought home 4 SBOWL titles home to DAD..😅😅😅😅
A legend to never go to the playoffs, or a Superbowl. He had some amazing skills for a QB. He was running for his life. His offensive line was so horrible.
Yeah his whole team was terrible around him; definitely had the physical tools that his sons didn't have.
So true. He was one of those unfortunate talented athletes who were kept down by terrible teams. I see athletes like Mike Trout, and can't help but lament all that wasted talent.
The Saints had perpetually terrible defenses every year Archie played with them. You would think with their bad record every year they could draft some decent players. Bit not the case.. 😮
It must've been a real relief to Archie that his sons were on good teams and able to reach their full potential.
He made sure of that with Eli.
The owner of the Saints was asked why he wouldn't hire Archie an offensive line to protect him and some receivers who could get open and catch a football. He replied, "Why spend all that money? Archie will fill the stadium every home game."
I grew up 20 miles from Ole Miss and watched him play college ball 4 years. He was amazing!!
If there had been unrestricted free agency and salary cap in his day he'd have moved on to a good team and won championships before his rookie contract was up. He was a thrill to watch, and as a Rams fan back then I used to hate him because somehow he'd always find a way to beat us when the Rams' win % was in the 70s and the Saints' was in the 20s. The teams he was on were so terrible I felt sorry for the guy even though at the time the Saints were in our division. Just his poor luck that that talent was wasted by the Saints' owner, whose only concern was butts in seats. I know he's proud of his sons but it's gotta kill him that he was never on a championship team in his career and isn't in the HOF with Peyton as a result.
Jim Plunkett, the only player to be drafted ahead of Archie Manning in 1971, had the good fortunate of being traded to San Francisco, and then to Oakland (where he blossomed). If only Archie had been traded to either the L.A. Rams or Chicago Bears in 1976 -- both of whom were clearly hurting at the QB position at the time. He'd probably be in the Hall of Fame.
hey do you have a source or do you know where the owner said that?
Louisiana loves Archie
Imagine Pat Mahomes with better footwork but similar creativity playing on the worst team in football with no o-line and trash receivers. That's Archie Manning. He was my favorite QB as a boy, I really looked forward to the weeks where the Saints played, even though I wasn't a fan. I was an Archie fan. I'd have rather had him on my dream team of the 70s than Staubach, Griese, Stabler or Bradshaw. The only guy as good was Tarkenton. Some of his greatest plays ever will never make the highlight reels because in a typical game at least once he'd make an unbelievable scramble, break out of three tackles and then throw a 40 yard dime on a dead run...and the no good receiver would drop the ball.
Ike Harris used to drive Saints fans crazy. Good catches but would drop the ball on the most critical play of the game.
The reason why i think Archie, despite the greatness of his sons, is the greatest Manning.
Great description of what was going on. So true.
Ive been a die hard Saints fan since even before Archie - but I loved #8 - he had some damn good numbers considering he NEVER had a decent O-Line blocking for him
You've been die hard saints fan for like 6 decades? are you older than Archie himself?
Nope, I'm 63 Archie is like 75.@@justinsm
…and the above video shows folks where Arch Manning got his ability to scramble. His Grandpa,Archibald Manning…👍👍👍
Crazy play starting at 2:39 where Archie (8) throws an underhand pass to Mike Renfro (82) on a broken play. That game was in ‘82, the strike shortened year and Archie was playing for Houston.
The name "Ed Biles" will never be remembered in lists including Belichik, Ewbank, Shula, Noll, Walsh, etc. He supposedly played a part in Bum Phillips' controversial firing. That and the Oilers becoming a doormat under Biles didn't quite endear Biles to "Luv Ya Blue" fans.
I remember that play very vividly. Also, as an Oiler where he was sacked 4 straight times for about a total of 30 yards lost resulting in a safety against the NY Giants. I think that was '82 as well. Oilers couldn't win more than 2 or 3 games in a season that era. Archie was right. The Oilers were even worse than the Saints during that post- Luv Ya Blue era.
@brasspick Has nothing to do with the OC...quit yapping
Should have hired Eddie Robinson. If race wasn't such an issue back then Coach Robinson would have made the Saints a winner.
He was always running for his life. The one year that he got a little protection-1978- he was the league MVP.
Makes me sad. My late father used to cut Archie's hair at his dad's shop in Eastgate shopping center in Oxford. At Ole Miss Archie was almost like a God. Tiny little Oxford, Ms, had a claim to fame.
Archie Manning is one of the greatest football players of all time. In some ways, he was better than his sons.
i can assure you that he would not trade his career for the success of his boys!
The one other thing about Archie; he is also a good man. He started the Ronald McDonald house in New Orleans, given of his time to charities, and infused that into his sons who have carried on good works.
Had never seen Archie's highlights before but Drake Maye reminds me of him a lot.
Terry Bradshaw and The Steelers started out from the same exact place as Archie Manning and The Saints:
In Bradshaw’s rookie year, the Steelers were 5-9, then they were 6-8. That was 1970 and 1971.
In 1969, the season before Bradshaw joined The Steelers, Chuck Noll and Company was 1-13.
Yet The Steelers GOT THE PLAYERS, and BUILT A DYNASTY.
The Saints could have done the same thing, but didn’t.
Bad Decision-Making. Bad Management. Losing Team, Losing Philosophy.
His grandson...Arch Manning...has the same mobility and playing style...😮😮😮...amazing...😮😮😮...
saints fan, not even gonna sugarcoat it, saints weren't that good back then, archie manning was fighting for his life 😭
Archie Manning had a powerful arm, but he should have been a Hall of Fame, if he won a Super Bowl or played with excellent offensive line. The Saints back then when he played was very terrible and couldn’t get his team to win games.
Lowest lifetime winning percentage among NFL QBs with 100 or more games played.
Most times sacked.
An entire career with minimal or no supporting cast, it's a miracle that Archie wasn't left mentally broken.
Archie Manning was a master of the underhand pass.
Can't wait to see Arch get drafted to the league. I'm calling that he's going to be better than his dad, uncles and grandpa.
How come the audio is like 3 or 4 minutes out of sync with the video?
He would be top 5 ob in this era , you can’t deny he better than his son
Archie took a beating for the majority of his career. He probably has a much greater career if he had a few more helpers around him to win games.
He was incredible with the ball to pass it.
The Taints is wild disrespectful hahaha
I've seen people call him overrated, but that doesn't make sense because he's only though of highly by Saints fans. Everyone else knows him as Peyton and Eli Manning's dad
If Roger Staubach said he was great?. Then he was period
Man I believe it
What happens if Archie is a rookie in 86 when Jim Mora arrived? What happens if Manning is the QB instead of Bobby😮 Hebert? ... Just wondering out loud!
He walks with a cane now. I wonder how much of the Saints lack of success was due to the other players living it up in the French Quarter.
Archie Manning was similar to Fran Tarkenton on a lousy team. You never really knew if it was athleticism or sheer survival.
Shame he had no good players to be a hall of famer.
Imagine if he had the same quality of Saints players that Drew Brees had in his career in New Orleans.
@@davissinclair4945 well, BREES playing in his sons era.
Archie wasn't peyton, or even eli, but he was much tougher. He got his ass kicked regularly and still played a long career in the nfl
Wonder what Archie could’ve done had he played now in the modern era and on a good team
“The Taints” 😂😂
His throwing motion is a lot like CJ Stroud.
I would say that he had a more agility then Peyton and Eli but we shall see how Arch does
Pete Maravich of NFL?
You can blame ownership and general management to not built a team around a star had 10 years to do it so it shows you the people that ran the saints had no type of knowledge and understanding of football and how to draft and organize a winning team
Could you imagine him throwing this many 50/50 balls in 2024 ? Wed all call him carson wentz 😂
Mahommes without the cheifs
Thats time period of The BROWN PAPER BAGS with letters AINTS.. ARCHIE was a great QB with misfortune of BAD TEAMS.. OILERS & SAINTS. Bur his two sons Eli & Peyton M. Brought home 4 SBOWL titles home to DAD..😅😅😅😅
IluMISEPY
A winner on a team of losers!
That is bad news for a player with legendary skills.