NB1 vs NB2 Mazda MX-5 Miata | ALL THE DIFFERENCES!
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- Опубліковано 28 чер 2021
- Considering a NB1 or NB2 Mazda MX-5 Miata? This video is the ultimate comparison between the two versions of the NB Miata! I go over everything that is different between the earlier cars (99-00) and the later Miatas (01-05). My car is 1999 Mazda MX-5 Miata with the popular equipment package and leather package. The silver car is a 2002 Mazda MX-5 Miata Special edition. Let me know which you'd choose!
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Updates to the info in this video!
-NB1 was available with a 6 speed and 3.9 for the 1999 and 2000 Special editions
-NB1 has VICS (Variable Intake Charge System) to help make power across a wider RPM range
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oh shit i was wondering about the 6 speed bc i have a 2000 nb and i was like wait did he say there isnt a six speed on 😅 like bro im driving it rn, nice to know mine is a special edition:,)
@@briancalderon5650 love my 2000 SE
Great video. I didn't know that the NB1 and NB2 were so different. I have an 2003 "Special Edition" (NB2), and I love it. More "cool" than the NA I had originally, but just as much fun (and better audio system). I only drive it about 3500 miles a year, so I'll be leaving it to my kids when I die. I'll never sell it. I'm 73 now.
I prefer the Nb1, it's slightly more old school and the face doesn't laugh too much. Love it💪🏻
Mazda does make their cars look happy, don't they... :)
@@mattf8246 I love that about them.
Don't forget that the NB1 10th Anniversary Editions had the 6 speed in them as well. That one also had the 3.9 ratio.
I did forget despite having driven one a few years back, thanks for the clarification!
I have the 10th year anniversary edition. Still required at least 3.5k rpm before it powers up
I love the look of nb1s compared to nb2s but the inside interior of a nb2 is definitely nicer
Yeah that NB2 interior is great. The NB1 is growing on me a lot, I’m really enjoying mine!
I have a 2003 nb2 I bought about 3 months ago. I had a 2000 nb1 about 6 years ago but I got t-boned in it. Had it fixed but never was quite the same so I traded it. Loved the car. Didn't know there was a difference until I bought this one and started noticing differences in the two cars. Then stumbled across your video. Very informative. Both mine are white with beige interiors. My nb2 has a hardtop and a soft top which I've never put back on it. Still debating that one. Love the cars. Thanks
Man I love the NB1 gauges and “infotainment”. Properly 90s. More character than that 2000s fake aluminum look that was so popular (my 350z will filled with it)
I’ve been looking at Miatas and I was not aware that there were 2 variations of the NB! Great video and explanation. I’d say I’m a fan of the NB2 because of the more aggressive front bumper and the projector headlight design.
Glad it was helpful, thanks for watching!
Thanks for the video . I didn’t knew most of them.
I have an 01 SE and I love it so much!
I like my Mazdaspeed Miata. It has a lot of add ons specifically for it. Crazy how it only costed another 1k from the dealer when it was launched. I also used to have a nb1 and it was great as well.
You're a lucky guy to have the Mazdaspeed. Enjoy that!
Your Channel is one of my favorite on UA-cam, I lovvvvveee miatas
:) thank you very much! Miatas are the best!
Just bought a 99 nb1 to replace our low k 2003. flood event unfortunately got what was a mint one (2cm of water in t foot-well in NZ means it’s a write-off). t 99 is a beaut, 6 speed, leather seats, Naardi wood bits,+ t 1840 motor....loving it. Really enjoy having one of these brilliant babes in t garage!
I think the single most important advantage for both the NAs and the NBs is that they have four wheel double wishbone suspensions. This is much better for keeping the wheel flat against the surface and so much better road holding and absorption of curves and bends. One generally doesn't buy a Miata for speed, but for tactile handling. I would think that the engine that is most reliable and easy to maintain would be the preference. And of course, don't buy an automatic transmission - if you do that, then you might as well buy any other convertible that comes along, provided it has good quality.
People who buy wimp shifts don't deserve to drive sports cars.
Awesome video
Video is actually perfect, dayum.
I appreciate that!
Awesome Chanel man. You are very through and know your stuff. New subscriber, and thank you
Welcome my friend! Thanks for the kind words
Thanks for all the info I'm planning on getting a nb1 turbo miata soon here
Great video. Both NB are top!
The sway bar on my NB1 looks like a beast and is adjustable.
Defi army have to go with the nb2 because that what I got. The car just looks more modern and polished. With just a few upgrades these cars are fantastic!
I have owned both - personally prefer the look of the 5 spoke NB1 allows even though smaller rims - the VVC has better top end power and is a little more refined indoors
Both a great choice
nb2 definitely has a more premium looking interior but I kinda like how the nb1 is like an na8 without pop ups. Not that I don’t like pop ups
Yeah, the NA6 is like the NB1 since it’s lighter and more rev happy than it’s later counterparts!
Projector and HID retrofit on NB1 makes a huge difference at night!
I’ll have to drive my friends at night! I’m actually quite happy with my NB1 lights after more night driving
NB2..... Bought one two weeks ago 30000 on the clock.... Awesome driver..... Makes Driving fun
One thing you missed is that the nb1 has VICS (variable intake charge system) where as in the nb2 it has been replaced with the vvt and the intake was changed due to emission regulations
You’re right, I totally forgot to mention it. Thanks for throwing in the info!
Nice comparison.
Better headlights would be welcome, but they do the job. Same for the brakes. And seats, though I did add a lumbar cushion. And power.
I prefer the more subdued simpler NB1 interior and gauges to anything I've seen in later models. Less distraction, especially with the top down and sun.
Agreed about the center console -- pretty useless cup holders, though a good amount of space. The latch broke so I have a magnet to hold it closed instead -- much better.
If the motor had any ignition issues they were dealt with before I got it at 60k, and haven't shown up so far at close to 240k.
Thank you!!
Thanks for this! very informative. I had a 99 sold it with 200K miles and got a 2001 SE with 43K miles and a hard top. Both are fun cars but the NB2's headlights are so much better and the VVT / 6-speed (SE) really do make it a more fun car to me. My 99 had a cast iron exhaust manifold, in 2000 they went to a tubular header which I did retrofit to my 99. Not really and NB1 VS NB2 difference but it was a nice change from 99 - 2000
The only issue with the 03s is the tochigi fuji diff which was used in 03 and not used after ...apposed to the torsen
Spot on! I had an NB1 1st edition new April ‘98 for 11.5 yrs w/155k miles till body rust 2nd time came back. ❤️ the car.
They’re amazing cars!
Awsome video
Thank you!!
Makes me want to buy an NB some day. Honestly cant decide between the two!
Buy whichever comes your way for the right price, you won’t be disappointed. I found my NB1 for sale fifteen miles from my home. I love it! ❤️
You got a nice NA it seems, I'd stick with the one you have if it were me.
I have 99 NB1 but It has swapped 1.8 vvt engine, nb2 interior (center tunnel with cup holders and seats) and momo prototipo wheel. So for me it’s perfect ;)
I have a NB1. First time I have heard the reference 1 vs 2. Mine is a 99. My Mother purchased it new. She was 78 at the time. I am now the caretaker of it. About 70k miles. It is an Auto which is understandable. Very smooth shifting. Taking it out of overdrive does make a big difference.
Very nice, enjoy it!
Awww, schucks!
The nb2 has a taller surf board looking headrest.
I like the NB2 because it came in British racing green as the 2001 se. But the 2000 se is really beautiful too. I like the wood trimmed tan interior/polished wheels/tan top look.
The nb1 came in BRG as well. I have a '99 BRG, with the Tan leather package. Best part about mine is the odometer, sitting at 22,800k.
Where are you located? At least here in the states BRG was only a factory color on the NB2 SE
@@Funckinnutcase 99 came in emerald green I believe
@@daviewavie112 i have a 99 nb1 in BRG too. I’m in the uk and from what i know they came like that here
My 1999 nb1 is in for renovation at the moment, sills and a spray job in bronze/gold , it's 1.6 57000 miles and drives really well , it would be nice to have electric windows though.
Just subscribed 🙂
Appreciate the lightweight car any extra weight is bad my 1.6 1999 bronze 58000 now is a wonderful drive , roof down in all weather's 👍👍
Got a 2003 with upgraded headlights, roll bars, cold air intake, and some other stuff I don’t understand but boy, it sure is purdy and fast!
Enjoy it!
That Phoenix steering wheel is mint. Need to replace the leather on mine.
Yes it is, that’s a very nice and low mileage car!
Thank you for all this. 1999 nb
You're welcome, enjoy it!
I Owned aNB2 and love it 🙂
some of those differences are trim levels and probably local versions.
My austrian nb1 has the white dials with the chrome rings around it too.
nardi wooden steering wheel and knob.
and a 6 speed.
In the NB1 only special editions got the white dials whereas NB2 had them as standard. 6-speed and Torsen LSD was either an option or restricted to limited editions depending on your location. As far a i know you could get 6-speed as an option in japan. In germany 6-speed was only available for the 10th anniversary and an other special edition (i think the miracle with a 1.9 liter engine, but not sure).
I haven't read a lot of the comments so maybe somebody's already said this? But it seems this would have been a tad easier going back and forth between the interiors if the tops were down.
Miata is always the answer. I love all years for different reasons. I have a 2012 NC
I prefer the NB1 all day. Premium not needed. Better style and feel all around. Better drivability. Had both the 5spd and 6spd NB2 Wasnt a fan.
I prefer the NC for the legroom over the NA and NB, and hydraulic steering over the ND
Good video 📹 👍 👌 👏
I myself own a 2004 MSM MX5 Miata. Very recently I purchased an Honda S2000, and I'm trying to sort out the difference between the two cars.
Both great cars. Which do you prefer? I’ve been eying S2000s but they’re quite pricey
@@CashedOutCars I really can't say at the moment. Just because I haven't tracked the S2000 yet, I'm a little scared to track the S2000 because it has 227,000 miles.
But i can tell you this much, the S2000 chassis feels a lot stiffer. The stock S2000 suspension feels stiffer than my stock MSM Bilstien struts. The S2000 shifter is top notch quite possibly the best shifter I've experienced by far.
As far as power and performance is concerned. It feels like my MSM has more bottom end power and has more usable RPM's on the street as opposed to the S2000. The fun starts at 6k RPM's for the S2000 😃
As far as driving feel/performance/experience. The MSM feels like you are wearing biker shorts vs the S2000 feels like you are wearing cargo shorts. The steering feed back on the S2000 feels very different, I prefer the steering feedback on the MSM. But the S2000 chassis is very impressive and responsive.
Im from Germany and I am planning getting an MX5 NB2 probably. i Might do modifications but in a sleeper look. should look stock.
This is a great video! I didn’t know some of these difference, especially the cup holders. One question I had though: I thought the NB1 had the much shorter seats and the NB2 had the taller “surfboard” seats. Does your NB1 have non-standard seats or something?
These are the stock NB1 seats! The NB2 ones certainly hold you in a bit better and may be a bit taller, but it's not a huge difference
Great video. Thanks for posting. I thought NB1 seats are the same as NA
I have the 2000 SE. It has the 6-speed, white gauges ( like the 2002 SE in your video) and 15” wheels. The paint and interior tan are bomb! All wood Nardi steering too. Mines too nice to seriously mod but I do have the Fox coilovers, and aftermarket exhaust and air intake. About to do a radiator swap before it starts to leak. 55k original miles. And the sweet aventi bronze wheels to match the paint.
Enjoy that thing, sounds like a nice car!
I also have a low mile 2000 se..put that mazda speed intake cam in you will love it ...
another great video, thanks ! so what do you do for the NB1 cupholder breaking, is there an easy fix, have you done a video of it ?
I'd recommend putting a NB2 one in if possible! You can DIY a fix with epoxy and some reinforcement but I haven't personally done it
I just bought an NB2, so I’m a little biased. But I do love the facelift of the NB2 better. I would’ve taken either though. I just love the MX5 in general.
Like em both to be honest, but NB1 for me...everything on it looks kinda old school in compare with NB2...Head lights, tail lights, bumper, gauges, seats... So you have a kinda old school miata but with some basic comforts and safety...like AC, air bags, ABS, el.powered windows. So i couldnt ask for more. I love my NB1 and wouldnt swap it for an NB2. Cup holders on NB2 are so much better tho, but its a 5 min job to install it on the NB1. So an NB1 with NB2's cup holders/console part is a win win for me :D
That’s the exact setup I have now! Can’t complain :)
Those buddy clubs P1s 😍
Kosei K1s here in the US :) but yeah I love em. Matt’s got them on his K-Swapped NA, and I’ve got a set on my Turbo NA too!
@@CashedOutCars oh that’s interesting, TIL
NB1 FTW! I love both cars. but in the UK the NB1 is quite unusual to see. lots of people over here move to the newer headlights and bumper. but personally I prefer the original look of the NB1. With time i think the NB1 will be one of the rarer MX5's and potentially they may appreciate in value as a result. I'm by no means a classic car expert. - but its far easier to get an NA or an NB2 than it is an NB1 in good condition these days
That’s a good point, with just the two years of them they are certainly more rare!
There are a few NB1 6 speeds. The 99 10th Anniversary and 2000 Special Edition.
Thank you for that correction, I totally forgot about those despite driving one a few years back😂
You’re welcome, 10AE owner so that info stands out 😊
Enjoy it!
Thanks for the info on that! Im not familiar with non US cars
I wish I could've sent you my car for the comparison! I have a silver NB1 with fog lights.
I just replaced the center console lid too lol. I'll probably replace it again down the line.
That would have been awesome, enjoy yours!
Most of the differences I like the nb2.
As a night person the red lighting in the dash would be more comfortable on my eyes.
One good comparison that matters to some of us would be curb weight differences. The lighter car would obviously mean better if you plan to mod the engine for power.
Lighter is better for many things. The NB2 is a heavier car by about 100 lbs, in general
@@CashedOutCars That's good to know. I like the way the NB2 looks more but the NB1 is more of a classic Miata look.
I have a 1999 10th anniversary NB1 and it does come with a 6 speed
Nb2 add a little bit of comfort of suspension and weight a bit more. They are very comfy but a bit less sporty.Perfect for cruising I love my nbfl
Agreed, they're very nice cars!
Dunno if anyone else has this, but the Miata I have was built in October 2000. Has the full interior of an NB1 but the full exterior of an NB2.
Should talk about how different they drive, vvt versus not
And I think maintenance on non vvt is cheaper and easier
I'd take nb2 but knew nothing of a subdivide amongst nb miatas. This shows how little I know. Maybe I am warming up to nb, I loved na for so long, I never wanted to look at anything but.
Both of you guys have to sand those headlight lenses! I like the NB1 front bumper, gauge cluster and steering wheel better, but overall the NB2 is probably what I’ll get for it’s improved creature comforts and engine
I sold my NB1 long ago, maybe the new owner did the lenses! I currently have a V8 90 and a turbo 93
Of course I prefer the NB1, as that is what I drive 🙂Good video, thanks.
That's how I made my pick too! Thanks for watching!
Does the nb2 centre console fit in the nb1?
I got a 1999 10th year anniversary edition i have the same centre console issue
Question, just bought a 04 , Have you done a video on Change into halogen lights?
I have to admit ignorance - I didn't know there were NB generations. I own a 1991 NA6 and owned a 2003 Shinsen. I bought the latter with the thought of replacing the '91. I owned both for a few months. Ended up selling the Shinsen and deciding to go all in on the '91. (Have been recording hours of work I've done on it that I plan to post on my YT channel at some point.)
Two big things I didn't like about the '03: the white gauges with red lighting and the fat 3-spoke steering wheel. I like how I can rest my left hand in the spokes of the NA wheel. Biggest complaint I have with my '17 Ram is the 3-spoke wheel. Can't find a comfortable spot to hold it when just driving along.
I'm planning to eventually turbo my '91. Took a long time to come to that decision because I really have a desire to put a V8 in a Miata. I am researching the NBs now with the thought of doing an LS swap in one later on down the line. So stock engine/trans means nothing - I'm interested in how the body looks and how it handles. Thus far, after 5 minutes of Google and this video, I'm undecided. But it's a great video to start the ideas flowing.
I've got a timing belt to change in my '91 for now, so I'll dream of V8s another day.
Honestly your issues with the nb sounded pretty fixable and it’s shocking to me that you prefer the na over a shinsen. The shinsens are beautiful cars. IMHO
@@d3admaub938 It was gorgeous. If I get an NB, I would look into installing an NA steering wheel and switching out all the red bulbs.
As to NA over NB, to each his own. I owned.
I have an NA8 but tbh I think if i were to make a frankenstein miata out of mine I'd take more parts out of the NB1 vs NB2. However both have their benefits, y'know?
Sheeeshhh i got the nb 2 good to know i dont usually get the good version of a car
They're both very good versions of the car :) enjoy it!
I know it’s not relevant to this video but a year ago you uploaded doing the cam cover gasket, just wondering if it went alright without putting any sealant on?
Just responded on the other video :)
Have NB1, I think Mazdaspeed NB2 is best bang for the buck if you have 10 racks. I hope this comment doesn't take some off the market. I want one. I think bigger injectors and a tune will have them hungry for smashing on S2000s.
4:03 uhm i have a nb1 and nb2 both have power locking but none of them have that button
they just do it autoatically when i lock the drivers door
European versions
next video i want to see the review video between you vs your friend
We'll make it happen! Stay tuned :) We're finishing a K Swap on his NA first
I heard that A/C comes standard in NB2 whereas it was an option in NB1, but maybe that was here in Europe
What does the ratio refer to, final drive (6th) you didn’t mention about LSD
only problem is what you said about the engines.
VVT is in no way more restrictive, the ports and valves are the same.
non vvt is preferred for spec miata as it the lowest weight chassis, with the most relative power.
its also the preferred engine for builds over the stock 7200 rpm, because the vvt system doesn't work well above that.
Thanks for the clarification on that. It seems like a major area of confusion on forum posts and it confused me too. The Spec Miata team I used to crew for avoided VVT cars like the plague
@@CashedOutCars no problem, for spec Miata racing, I could see why they avoid vvt. As it’s a lot more to go wrong compared to non vvt, for not a huge benefit, especially once everyone is already moving off the start line.
The vvt block is my preference for street car build.
As it has a main bearing support plate, making it stronger than any previous.
as well as a wider oil pump gear that flows more
The VVT is the best NA/NB engine, period. Some avoid it because they don't want the added complexity and some other racing restrictions you face when having a swapped engine with a VVT. It is the best engine especially for turbo because the higher compression and VVT make the turbo so much more responsive.
I own an NB2 and couldn't be happier with it. One change I made was to swap my stock black leather wheel with a mahogany rim wheel from the 10th anniversary NB1. It also came with a matching wood shift knob and handbrake lever, all of which I refinished and were a bolt on fit. That set is very nice and really sets off the interior. I also reupholstered my seats with new leather, putting black centers and tan outers in place of the tan to match the black and tan dash it came with. Washing the stock floormats with Dawn made a huge difference too. Mechanically it's stock as I don't do more than basic daily driving, but it's easily the best car that I've ever owned.
I don’t know if you guys have it in the states but there’s also an NB2.5 that’s a mix of both
No single person needs cupholder in an miata :D Btw: The NB (1) is what i choose after i could test them all for short time.
i think its difficould to get all teh info correct in a video like this cause of all thee spec differances but it whas pretty good i think. my nb2 came with all the uppdates except it has the nb1 engine as stock. no vvt but it has abs power steering and remote key locks
My se as five speed box brittish racing green 1999 can you tell if limted of reg
I like the nb2 better but the na is my favorite miata with pop-ups and quirky door handles
I like em all, it's so hard to decide!
NB1 but wish it had 3.9 for cruising.
I never knew there were 2
They’re subtle differences, but they make a difference for sure!
The 99 doesn’t require premium fuel, but 2000 models (maybe years to follow?) do recommend premium? That would make the pre 2000 desirable, to me.
If I am buying mazda miata mx-5 special edition 2003 is 182,000 miles it is to much?
Is the nb2 also named as nbfl ?
I've got nb1 brittish racing se 1999 England apparently only 500 hundred made is this this true
I have a 99 and a 2002 SE hardtop in yellow.
I have my 99 up for sale but it sure is fun to drive. Almost like it a little better than the SE. It's a 5 speed but seems to accelerate a little faster than the SE. The SE may be due for a tuneup.
Nice! Enjoy em. I've since sold my NB since I have my turbo NA!
Do the hardtop miata leak water inside?
I'm into the nc1. But popularity makes them hard to find for a reasonable price $.
Considering a nb2 but I'm of the opinion that it looks too cute or something.
NB2 is the way to go, way more of a modern look and better performance. On a side note I have the same SE in the same color and your friend did a dishonor by putting after market wheels the y spoke enkei’s that come on the SE are the best looking stock wheels Miata have ever come with they look like the spirit R wheels on the FD actually the whole car looks like the spirit R down to the color lol
The stock wheels are nice on those for sure, but I'm a big fan of the K1s personally :)
@@CashedOutCars yeah it comes down to personal preference, I’ve always liked y spoke they’re my favorite type of wheels, so when I was on the market for an NB I was so glad I was able to get an SE with factory y spokes
Interesting, my NBFL Phoenix doesn't have the lock switches on the door handles, though it has power locks. Maybe its because mine is an EU spec and yours is a US spec (I assume)
Would like to see a 1.6 vs 1.8 comparison video
For the NB specifically? I did a video on my channel comparing the engines and drive trains in 1.6 vs 1.8 NA cars!
@@CashedOutCars Not specifically but I would wanna know if it really makes a big difference. Also do the NA models use the same engine as the NB?
i thought the first gen. with pop-up lights were nb1's. without pop-ups were nb2 neither of the cars in video has pop-up headlights? driven '02 since new...
VVT is not like VTEC. VVT can only change the cam angle, whereas VTEC can also switch cam profiles to a higher lift cam.
They're both methods variable valve timing which is why I made that comparison in the video. But yes, in practice they do it in very different ways and like you mentioned. Once we finish Matt's K swap we can do a nice comparison between the two!
@@CashedOutCars I'm not referring to how they work. The Mazda motor simply cannot switch to a high lift cam because it doesn't exist in the motor. The switching to a high lift cam is what enables Honda motors to achieve high output in their 4 cylinder naturally aspirated motors.
@@CashedOutCars vtec is in no way similar. Vvt is vvt, all engine manufacturers call it vvt. Vtec, VVTL-i, and Neo-VVL are all incomparable. All of these have dual grind camshafts, which as the name suggests, have two grinds on the cam. At a certain rpm, the engine switches to a higher lift and duration cam lobe to promote power, by opening the valves further, and for longer. Vvt simply changes when the valves open and close. I've driven cars with vvt, and vvtl. Vvtl pushes you back in the seat, vvt doesn't.
The nb2 tries to resemble the rx8 more while the nb1 takes design queues from the rx7
Is it possible to have features of both? I have some of the 1 and some of the 2 it seems..
Yes nearly all parts are interchangeable, with a bit of work