Dyno Testing 8 Of The Most Popular Mods For Miatas! [Project 2SJ Ep8]

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  • @grahamnelson5376
    @grahamnelson5376 3 роки тому +378

    We don’t deserve this level of content

    • @TheCarPassionChannel
      @TheCarPassionChannel  3 роки тому +34

      I appreciate you 🙏

    • @kurtbrown6876
      @kurtbrown6876 3 роки тому

      damn right we don't.... love you saint miata dad.

    • @munich_zpeed
      @munich_zpeed 3 роки тому

      This is the content I needed when I had my Miata days :) Makes me kind of wanna buy one :P

    • @R03333
      @R03333 3 роки тому +5

      @@TheCarPassionChannel Literally the only person to take decades of Miata forum guesses and estimations about mods & actually test them back to back logically. Half the people watching this video won't even realise how much of absolute hero move this video is. Miata dad is best dad.

    • @TheCarPassionChannel
      @TheCarPassionChannel  3 роки тому +3

      @@R03333 Just wait for round 2 😉

  • @NappMotorsports
    @NappMotorsports 3 роки тому +300

    What an absolute legend. Even 6 hour dyno days are absolutely draining, I can't imagine doing this. Always pushing the miata community knowledge, and it's much appreciated!

    • @taintdestroyer
      @taintdestroyer 3 роки тому +3

      u guys do a pretty good job too 😉

    • @maverickmoshe7457
      @maverickmoshe7457 3 роки тому

      I realize I'm kinda randomly asking but do anyone know of a good site to stream new series online ?

    • @neilkonnor4923
      @neilkonnor4923 3 роки тому

      @Maverick Moshe flixportal =)

    • @maverickmoshe7457
      @maverickmoshe7457 3 роки тому

      @Neil Konnor thanks, signed up and it seems like a nice service =) Appreciate it !!

    • @neilkonnor4923
      @neilkonnor4923 3 роки тому

      @Maverick Moshe no problem =)

  • @mtbiata
    @mtbiata 3 роки тому +157

    Greg: “I don’t think I brought the bathroom scale.”
    Me: “Haha that’s funny”
    Greg: *Pulls out bathroom scale*

  • @oldmancolin
    @oldmancolin 3 роки тому +177

    Can't wait to buy an official TheCarPassionChannel intake!

    • @leehaider6362
      @leehaider6362 3 роки тому +1

      Did he ever post exactly how he made that intake?

  • @ericsson_motorsports
    @ericsson_motorsports 3 роки тому +143

    Note to self: Buy the biggest possible air filter and cut a huge hole in the hood

    • @honzastrnad
      @honzastrnad 3 роки тому +4

      I think the velocity stack inside is the key.

    • @setra23
      @setra23 3 роки тому +4

      Biggest filter possible is always a good idea. I need to get a bigger one for my intake.

    • @SpartanRacing1989
      @SpartanRacing1989 3 роки тому +1

      Ehh I have been running without a filter on my turbo inlet for a year or 2 now. No issues

    • @ElPants21
      @ElPants21 3 роки тому +13

      A properly sized, good quality filter will be a nearly invisible restriction to the system. Pipe length, tube diameter, the bell mouth on the intake and heat management all play a roll and need to be considered

  • @Colman.Automotive
    @Colman.Automotive 3 роки тому +71

    the dedication is unreal, i like it

  • @nickszalardi3652
    @nickszalardi3652 3 роки тому +38

    But all the guys on facebook said these mods only lose power.

  • @mtbiata
    @mtbiata 3 роки тому +36

    Dad!! This is the best way to start my weekend!!

  • @daberin2630
    @daberin2630 3 роки тому +8

    Greg, it’s people like you that make me proud to be a part of the Miata community. Thank you for your dedication.

  • @4399daniel
    @4399daniel 3 роки тому +28

    Miata dad spending quality time with us, his children! 👊

  • @samvernon5748
    @samvernon5748 3 роки тому +54

    Would have liked to see the result putting the stock ECU back on with those mods to see if its worse or better than stock

    • @connorriebel8707
      @connorriebel8707 3 роки тому +5

      ^^^^^

    • @MiroslavPopov
      @MiroslavPopov 3 роки тому +7

      Must be the first test in the next session.

    • @TheCarPassionChannel
      @TheCarPassionChannel  3 роки тому +79

      This will be done in the next dyno video.

    • @hellfireclub86
      @hellfireclub86 3 роки тому +2

      @@TheCarPassionChannel This is very interesting! Maybe fewer gains, but a good start to run stock ECU? And what about safety? Will the stock ECU compensate and not run dangerously lean and hot? :D

  • @davidoutside
    @davidoutside 3 роки тому +1

    the only channel i turn my adblocker off for and just let ads play through. no lie. been subbed for like 6 years i think

  • @CashedOutCars
    @CashedOutCars 3 роки тому +53

    Those are bigger gains than I was expecting for those bolt ons and an ECU! I still prefer budget spoolie-bois for cost per horsepower, but it’s awesome to see real world results with these bolt ons! Great content as always!

    • @foamdataservices
      @foamdataservices 3 роки тому +3

      The ECU is not a surprise, the stock set up is designed to account for a variety of fuels, driving conditions and is pretty conservative as a result.

    • @CashedOutCars
      @CashedOutCars 3 роки тому +1

      @@foamdataservices yeah I know, I have a stand-alone in mine. Before I turbod it it made a noticeable difference. The combination of everything is what really surprised me

    • @ElPants21
      @ElPants21 3 роки тому

      Budget spooly bois will work that much better with a higher power NA engine, which he alluded to with the intake runner system tuning

  • @TheDart39
    @TheDart39 3 роки тому +62

    It would be interesting to see a video on how much advancing a Miata's timing from 10 to 14 degrees increases power.

    • @alexjohn5086
      @alexjohn5086 3 роки тому +3

      I think that's going to show the real value of standalone ECU.

    • @theluckycatcollective8788
      @theluckycatcollective8788 3 роки тому +6

      @@alexjohn5086 you can do it by rotating the cam sensor! It's a common Miata mod. All you need is a timing light. It makes it a little snappier

    • @psrb226
      @psrb226 3 роки тому +11

      i believe it just shifts the powerband to come on sooner. but then again, just info i've read before, not anything i've done or experienced

    • @ianfairbanks1318
      @ianfairbanks1318 3 роки тому +1

      @@psrb226 You are correct, but in reverse. it gives more top end. great for racing or autocross

    • @alexjohn5086
      @alexjohn5086 3 роки тому

      @@theluckycatcollective8788 yes I replaced my CC with latest one from Japan ,It was like driving a new car ,but didn't change timing on front damper using the light, my NB is in storage for the winter ,will try it this spring .

  • @Richard-vf6mr
    @Richard-vf6mr 3 роки тому +8

    Greg we need a video of the ultimate intake!

  • @TriggerHappyTurtle
    @TriggerHappyTurtle 3 роки тому +2

    I'm from the UK, getting my NB in a month and honestly this video makes me x10 more excited to get it. just found your channel, amazing !!

  • @philjones5728
    @philjones5728 3 роки тому +2

    How can ANYONE give this a thumbs down????
    Greg, your dedication to your followers is truly amazing - you are even more of a legend (yes, even more than you already were!!)

  • @MitchelYardley
    @MitchelYardley 3 роки тому +8

    Glad you didn’t burn down the dyno with that fireball!

  • @dustydog2009
    @dustydog2009 3 роки тому

    YOU ARE THE MAN!!!!! This is the best channel for unbiased information using basic tools. You have answered so many questions in one video. I thank you from the Czech Republic. MORE VIDEOS PLEASE,,,,,,,

  • @krisfarlee
    @krisfarlee 3 роки тому +14

    I wanna slap the 3 people who failed to see value in the best content creator on youtube's video...

  • @markpvn1
    @markpvn1 3 роки тому +6

    I love that you took all this time to make a usefull comparison! Great job!

  • @WigglingWaffles
    @WigglingWaffles 3 роки тому +14

    straight up dying for an exhintake video :(
    Everyone forgets thats a thing

    • @TheCarPassionChannel
      @TheCarPassionChannel  3 роки тому +26

      Good news: Exhintake cam is already installed. Full install video and dyno test coming.

  • @SXF_turbo
    @SXF_turbo 3 роки тому +3

    Greg, thank you so much for putting in the time and effort, thats crazy :D
    25whp gain op top is very good for easy bolt ons and I'm sure there is some power left with even better fuel

    • @thesilentgametestr
      @thesilentgametestr 2 роки тому

      good gains, but the cost to get those will be really high.

  • @diizfoo2265
    @diizfoo2265 7 місяців тому

    Just picked up a NB1 this month, thank you for all of this information 🙏🏻
    Got lucky, car came with the 4 to 1 headers, and racing beat muffler.

  • @JonBoehm
    @JonBoehm 3 роки тому +1

    Your energy is amazing. Took me all winter break just to do NB2 header, radiator and all the coolant hoses. Thank you. You are basically working on my exact model. This is fascinating.

  • @alexvaquero6884
    @alexvaquero6884 3 роки тому +6

    I fucking love the N/A tuning man. THANCK YOU SO MUCH

  • @garrydeimert7397
    @garrydeimert7397 3 роки тому +1

    The last intake was so effective probably because of all the other free flow stuff, it's really a measure of all the parts together each adding a little to gain a bit. That said great video, love your enthusiasm for the mx5 or as you boys in the US wrongly call it the miata. .......😂😃😄

  • @Thisious
    @Thisious 3 роки тому

    Just bought an nb 3 days ago. You're videos give me so much inspiration

  • @slightlyinsaneraf
    @slightlyinsaneraf 3 роки тому

    10:30 pop was so good, it sounded good too

  • @ExpiredFlame
    @ExpiredFlame 3 роки тому +1

    Very informative and nice video. Like these dyno comparisons a lot!

  • @of_lion22
    @of_lion22 3 роки тому +1

    Nice work Greg. Thanks for the dedication to educating us all.
    Quite impressive power increase, considering it's still a stock internal, high mileage, 20 year old BP.
    Can't wait for the next set of tests.

  • @doublemiata
    @doublemiata 3 роки тому +3

    Love how technical these vids get, best parts of a build 🙏

  • @albietbeck
    @albietbeck 3 роки тому +1

    You're like the Richard Holdener for Miatas, my favourite type of video! I never would have expected that kind of power.

  • @ianfairbanks1318
    @ianfairbanks1318 3 роки тому

    Wow dude. THANK YOU FOR THE WORK! Many folks here won't understand the work involved with dyno tuning.

  • @RobWhittlestone
    @RobWhittlestone 3 роки тому

    Brilliant Greg! Real practical mods that ordinary folks can do or have done. Awesome! Thank you for your dedication! All the best, Rob in Switzerland

  • @keviny7963
    @keviny7963 3 роки тому

    WOW, super imformative video. Thank you for your continuous contribution of real data for the miata scene

  • @IT-fr4wb
    @IT-fr4wb 3 роки тому

    Awesome days activity bro, big shout to your stickability

  • @MaxSpeedMike
    @MaxSpeedMike 3 роки тому +1

    10:30 i legit screamed. I'm about to install my isr exhaust on my nb1 and i can't wait to hear it!!

  • @brokeboycustom7655
    @brokeboycustom7655 3 роки тому

    Your intro puts a smile on my face every time

  • @alexanderarias8519
    @alexanderarias8519 3 роки тому

    This is the absolute best video on bolt ons ever. We don't deserve this attention to detail you provided us. Instantly subbed with notifications on great work!

  • @_GarageThings
    @_GarageThings 3 роки тому +6

    Swapping out my CA NB1 "boat-anchor" exhaust manifold was super satisfying

    • @otto_510
      @otto_510 3 роки тому +1

      Did you swap it with an NB2?

    • @_GarageThings
      @_GarageThings 3 роки тому +1

      @@otto_510 Yes.. paired with the Racing Beat O2 Sensor relocation kit

  • @mc1996
    @mc1996 3 роки тому

    Is this video for real? No way, its impossible!
    Awesome content. This is MVP level of research here.
    Thank you for all the hours of work.

  • @Alniemi
    @Alniemi 3 роки тому +1

    that vics is sooooo cool! I have a 99 miata and i always thought it almost sounded vtec'y near redline, ITS VICS!!! didnt know i had that. very cool. GREAT VIDEO!!!

  • @_jakebake
    @_jakebake 3 роки тому +2

    I am loving the NB videos !

  • @InitialB
    @InitialB 3 роки тому +2

    More legendary content. Greg you alone have shown me the full potential of the mx5 miata.

  • @suffolkrider7
    @suffolkrider7 3 роки тому

    Love the sum41 cap dude, long live all killer no filler !!

  • @josuedavid6584
    @josuedavid6584 3 роки тому +2

    let's take a moment to admire the amount of work that is involved in this video. Greg's Unmatched on youtube Miata content.

  • @heavychevy383
    @heavychevy383 3 роки тому

    as a nb owner, im lovin the project tsj! thanx

  • @patrickfargie1146
    @patrickfargie1146 3 роки тому +2

    He really took one for the team with this one.

  • @dangreenwood6755
    @dangreenwood6755 3 роки тому +2

    One of the best videos I've ever seen on UA-cam, the time and dedication put in for a 15 minute video is amazing!

  • @garageworm17
    @garageworm17 3 роки тому

    4,2,1 header. 64mm throttle body. And a VMS crankshaft pulley. And a good exhaust.

  • @Epiphonech
    @Epiphonech 3 роки тому

    Thanks a LOT for that approach, Greg! Respect for hot exhaust swaps, man.
    Eat that, Donut and MoneyPit. Performance vs entartaiment.

  • @88Frank
    @88Frank 3 роки тому

    Just made a cup of tea, one minute into the video I am hyped. Thank you for this!

  • @TankRust
    @TankRust 3 роки тому

    Toby put that same intake on my car when I was there as well! I think it picked up 3 hp over my J-bend, but I was already at a whopping 140 whp. Only difference to your car is the BP5 intake cam and square top. It’s still ripping years later!

  • @jozhfy
    @jozhfy 3 роки тому

    earned a sub, i have a corolla 1.8l and i tend to look at miatas for research purposes and this is what i was looking for, thanks bro

  • @honzastrnad
    @honzastrnad 3 роки тому +1

    Awesome work! You've settled up half of our pub arguments :) If you want to continue with intake testing, would be awesome to try different lengths, diameters, filters and try it with closed hood,.. HKS mushroom and RamAir are my favourites because of the internal velocity stack.

  • @ryantheoutdoorsmen2536
    @ryantheoutdoorsmen2536 3 роки тому

    Right at 10:30 when the dyno pull ended got the dawn dish soap commercial that goes and i feel better now doo doo toodoo

  • @ATomRileyA
    @ATomRileyA 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for this, that is a lot of work to get through.

  • @MikeMcDonoughUS
    @MikeMcDonoughUS 3 роки тому +1

    Hey, could you please share your AFR and ignition advance tables? I tuned an NB2 VVT engine running a Mega Squirt 3 ECU a couple of years ago. It definitely had more power with the standalone ECU combined with similar hardware (Racing Beat header, full exhaust, and intake). However, I never had a chance to tune it on a dyno. I would like to compare the shape of your AFR and ignition curves vs the tune that I put together.

  • @mathiasmang848
    @mathiasmang848 3 роки тому

    Awesome to see a comparison on the same car with the same dyno

  • @markc4768
    @markc4768 Рік тому

    I remember watching this when it was new and I was thinking about headers and an aftermarket intake... I chose to keep it stock --- but the difference between its baseline 96 hp and 108 based on recommendations from a bunch of his vids, going from 10* to 13* timing, a spotlessly clean throttle body, used set of cleaned and tested injectors, new plugs & wires + 91 octane on my original unmodified 290,000 mile '91 was huge, especially between 2000 and 4000 in 3rd gear where it now pulls a lot harder than the dyno horsepower might indicate. Next comes a valve job (slight hiss in intake #4 and in the tailpipe on #2) and a new clutch kit - just turned 195,000 miles on the fresh OEM replacement that was in it when I got the car 20 years ago - still holds, but the pilot shaft and TOB are getting a bit noisy...)

  • @seek4performance980
    @seek4performance980 3 роки тому

    One more thing that you can try for free. Is a back to back conparisson with and without power steering belt attached. It apeared to make a fairly notiecable difference in a frend's NA vvt swapped.
    Thanks for the video its really good content. Awsome dedication

  • @Itsmejanstand
    @Itsmejanstand 2 роки тому

    This is a great reference to what can make a difference. I'll be watching this and messing with some things with my mp62 nb1 on e85. I wish I had access to a dyno because I understand that with e85 you really should spend time doing dyno work to maximize any potential gains.

  • @desmondryan3847
    @desmondryan3847 3 роки тому

    legendary content and approach. need i say more? reference material for years to come.Thanks doesn't say enough

  • @irwin83r
    @irwin83r 3 роки тому

    NB8A boxed in PVC shorty cold side intake, best use of toilet plumbing outside the bathroom.

  • @hellfireclub86
    @hellfireclub86 3 роки тому +1

    A well tuned, full bolt-on NB is going to be interesting to see. As Greg says, the info is out there but scattered. Maybe an intake manifold mod, and a "Car Passion Cold Air Intake" combo :D

  • @computerfreak696
    @computerfreak696 2 роки тому

    That exhaust sounds very good!

  • @RaisinBran95
    @RaisinBran95 3 роки тому

    Car dedication channel. Awesome video.

  • @bilalelmalki7361
    @bilalelmalki7361 3 роки тому

    Respect! Doing that much in a single day. Looking forward to the next dyno video!

  • @mikeporch9138
    @mikeporch9138 2 роки тому

    Great video and info, would love to see something like this for the NA8!

    • @TheCarPassionChannel
      @TheCarPassionChannel  2 роки тому

      Just take all the figures and minus like 5-10%, that's tuning an NA8 motor 🙂

  • @AdinBriggs
    @AdinBriggs 3 роки тому

    20 horsepower out of an I/H/E and tune on a 110 HP stock engine is a *bunch* of power considering it's all bolt-ons. That's ridiculous. Thanks for the content!

  • @murray6188
    @murray6188 3 роки тому

    my miata is basically the exact same as what you have but much lower mileage, this is giving me really good incite on how much power i can expect from my car when i start doing some performance mods

  • @lukeaxcell
    @lukeaxcell 3 роки тому

    This is solid gold content. Thanks, man!

  • @supercarmio
    @supercarmio 3 роки тому

    great technical content my dude! loved seeing the back to back pulls + comparisons. looked like a hella long day, thanks for this!

  • @creativeexperience6388
    @creativeexperience6388 9 місяців тому

    I just got a clean clean 01 nb1 special edition last night same color as yours. Im in love

  • @steveschmidt5574
    @steveschmidt5574 3 роки тому

    Bad ass! Thanks so much for doing the hard work back to back. Intake smells like my next mod!

  • @jannevot8515
    @jannevot8515 3 роки тому

    All I can say is thank you for your dedication! 🙌🏼

  • @djisch
    @djisch 3 роки тому

    Miatas with cone filters just sound so amazing
    And thanks now i know why my miata gets such an angry sound from 4,800 or so

  • @ericmccolough2482
    @ericmccolough2482 2 роки тому

    Seeing the torque lift from that 4,2,1 Maxim was BRILLIANT. Finally some evidence.
    I know you're using the RB's, were you tempted to keep the Maxims?

  • @Satray01
    @Satray01 Рік тому

    The unicorn intake setup you filmed is a lot different the the emilio super miata diy intake. His had a U bend with the filter sitting in between the RF strut tower and the manifold. Yours is going back across the rad to the hot side of the car.

  • @taylorsouth1038
    @taylorsouth1038 3 роки тому +2

    Super hyped for this build

  • @j.w.motorsports
    @j.w.motorsports 3 роки тому +2

    What was your tuned AFR targets at WOT. would liked to see what you have found, confirms my targets.

  • @nickwild7
    @nickwild7 3 роки тому

    I cant remember where I saw/heard it but I want to say that anything under 10% isn't noticeable but you're looking at almost a full 21% gain so you should definitely notice it
    when we were tuning my car 190k 94 NA we couldn't get past the 120 mark...... Toby slapped an intake on it (dont think it was this one) and we made 127 so by freeing up that intake restriction is huge, its the main reason i wanna go from 2.5" silicone charge pipes to aluminum 3" lol

  • @fazehardcore_3472
    @fazehardcore_3472 3 роки тому

    Yay more content!!! We missed you!

  • @ghostpunkkilla
    @ghostpunkkilla 3 роки тому +1

    That afterfire was sweet.

  • @rockyhendrick8630
    @rockyhendrick8630 3 роки тому

    Great information thanks for making it available. Looking forward to part II.

  • @Procharged32
    @Procharged32 3 роки тому

    You put a lot of work in these videos well done.

  • @masonswoll-dier3700
    @masonswoll-dier3700 Рік тому

    Great videos man. Keep it up.

  • @glenjamindle
    @glenjamindle 3 роки тому +1

    Dads dad jokes are just next level. He pulled out a freakin bathroom scale 😂🤣

  • @koalaracing8948
    @koalaracing8948 3 роки тому

    Incredible content, the level of those kind of videos is insane!

  • @ReikoX7
    @ReikoX7 3 роки тому

    Man BIG THUMBS UP. :) I am really looking forward what will Emillios CAI do :). And are you gonna try square top manifold?
    I am planning exact same build but doing the engien OH, therfore forged pistons 11:1, billet pump, forged rods, tougher springs, to be able to safely rev till 7800rpm, bowl bend and port match. And other supporting mods. Hoping to get to 150whp :).

  • @HazardGarage
    @HazardGarage 3 роки тому

    great video daddy! appreciate the effort it took to make this video!

  • @shaoyang5650
    @shaoyang5650 3 роки тому +21

    Guy: Ha that intakes a joke
    Intake: makes more power than then one you bought for $350

    • @turbo_alice
      @turbo_alice 3 роки тому

      That's the exact reason why I straight up removed the air filter on my car (the intake isn't facing the road, so I'm safe from stuff getting in my engine) it's been 10K miles and it still runs great (for a 1985 4 cylinder diesel)

    • @proton001
      @proton001 3 роки тому

      @@turbo_alice lol.

    • @C.I...
      @C.I... 3 роки тому

      @@turbo_alice Enjoy your reduced engine life.

    • @turbo_alice
      @turbo_alice 3 роки тому +1

      @@C.I... it's an XUD, it can last forever, so I'm not that worried for it

  • @pietervanderwesthuizen9843
    @pietervanderwesthuizen9843 3 роки тому

    Been waiting for this Greg, love what you are doing!

  • @jakebradley6419
    @jakebradley6419 3 роки тому

    Awesome video man, loved every bit! So much information provided

  • @marcotine5847
    @marcotine5847 3 роки тому

    Yooooooooooo can't wait to see what you do with that intake!!! My NB2 is getting pulled apart soon for some work and i want to get as much done to the car while it's down

  • @hene6539
    @hene6539 3 роки тому

    Perfect! Looking forward for the next video

  • @djdoc36
    @djdoc36 3 роки тому

    Dude tyty I'm getting the ME442...I was curious about swapping my stock intake and 01 header with a RB header and you answered my question...I'm in a 99 10 AE with a BP4W Head ( BP5A cam) and BP6D bottom...borla exhaust FM midpipe.

  • @grzegorz9085
    @grzegorz9085 3 роки тому

    Awesome vid! Waiting for more!

  • @qwalters4
    @qwalters4 3 роки тому +3

    Any chance you could dispel some myths about the NB fueling, like how much the stock FPR can handle and how badly it drops pressure stock?