WARNING! READ THIS BEFORE GOING OFF THIS VIDEO!! Just a heads up…. That “pop” you were hearing was not your cams or phasers…. That “popping” noise is your chain skipping down lower due to bad Hydraulic tensioner(s) and or worn sprockets. If you look, your cams weren’t doing anything to make any noise. There’s nothing they can do to make a popping noise like that….To anyone that hears this noise, listen closely or use a stethoscope and you will hear that the noise is coming from down lower and when you remove the front cover go a head and spin tue engine clockwise again and you will see the chain slip…. I’ve done a ton of these and 99 percent of the time you will watch the chain slip on the bottom gear. This isn’t anything negative to the content creator as he’s trying to help…. When doing this job since you’re this deep replace all of the tensioners, sprockets, chains oil pump and if needed valves and valve seals.
Yea do yourself a favor and replace all cam phasers and oil pump. It’s an extra 300 but better than rebuying everything all over again. Learn from me, my cloyes set lasted 15k because of a bad phaser. Broken the yellow plastic guide on bank 1 and bent all intake valves. 1200 later I’m up and running again all because of a 67 dollar cam phaser.
I just changed my crankshaft, rod bearings, oil pump, cam phasers, and timing chains kit, exhaust solenoid and my engine is at 10 psi oil pressure which is the minimum. Any idea why it’s so low? It’s a 2010 Camaro 3.6
drill out pvc holes are too small and cylinder one in rocker cover blocks up and gunk block timing chain and oil pump look at difference in rocker covers and each head one side is clean other side is gunked up because of pvc to small and cannot breath
Change your oil every 4 to 5 thousand miles, and check your oil level, use a good quality synthetic oil, Delos standard, and you will not have problems.
DAMN! That engine & Cam-phasers look awfully varnished in the Cam-Valleys!! Dear Lord...... On my 2015 LTZ (70,000 mi now), I've added a Cup of Seafoam to my Oil about 500 miles before I get it changed. ALWAYS Mobil-1. NEVER more than 5,000 mile intervals either! My baby runs smooth & STRONG. Also use SF in the gas once a month. Used regularly over time, SF really helps keep things clean in an engine like an LFX. Regular use will help you AVOID issues like this in the first place!!!
ive changed mine with mobile 1 every 5k miles and always checked and topped off if needed , still need to replace my chains. the mechinism that feeds oil to the chains on the ltt just sucks, gm even put out a bulitin and special kit specific for this known issue.
@@markbaumgartner7261 yeah, supposedly they fixed the issue on the 2012 and newer v6 models. Other then that the engines are pretty good. 110k miles till it needed new chains isn’t bad in my opinion, that’s about when most cars start having a ton of issues
@@jamesgamerguy3 Funny how the 5.0 in my 2019 Mustang Gt is a multi valve engine and it doesn't have timing chain issues. Even the Northstar Cadillac didn't have chain issues. It had head bolt issues but once you put the studs in it it was fine , had the occasional oil leak. You would think GM could made the chains better. The 3.6 was developed by Cadillac.
Did 3.6 rockers & push rods ..lock cams in with tool everything is lined up as before ..But When I turn crank @ 1 spot on left side bank chain get a little slack not as much as yours. is that normal..again everything is lined up .this on a dodge 3.6
when replacing the cam phaser did you reuse the washer behind it or not . Im replacing camshafts and cam phasers and want to know about these washers /spacers
This question isn't about timing but what is the sensor down by the oil pan and harmonic balancer? I can't find the wire but the senor is in the front which is facing the passenger side
This is the truth. Dorman simply doesn't have the technology to recreate cam phasers. Same with the Ford 5.4.. do NOT buy generic cam phasers- only O.E.M. or you will have problems. Or should.
The other thing if you look at one side of the motor it's all black built-up black crap motostuff oversized ill clean need to do the little clickers on the valve drill it out like 1 mil
@@tonytony279 How long does the job take for in car job? I'm about to do a 2008 Pontiac Torrent. And have you ever tried any of the lower price kits on Amazon and Ebay?
@@houptee Mine was RWD so that's probably easier than FWD but it took about 12 hours total. I'd stick with the Melling sets, the others are most likely chinese
Hi corey, are u sure about the stage 2 timing removing all the chains and not doing it in two stages ,my mechanic done it all in one stage ,stage 2 now i have multiple misfires and he says it was done corectly which doesn't make sense as the car was running fine before it, exept for a code that came up a p0008 .
@jimmys1164 another common issue is changing the chains without changing the sprokets and phasers , often times causes the chain to jump as the old teeth are worn out and cause timing difficulties
What was the codes shown? I have same problem but the engine light is on and the codes are p0089, p0300, p0302,p0304,p0306 did you have the same codes ?
s there a way to adjust the timing without marks? I took the chain out and my stupidity allowed me to turn the the sprocket s individually, which turned the cams. Now I have no idea where I am at. Call me an idiot because I am. 2015 Chev malibu 2.5
He replaced Bank 2, exhaust cam phaser. (he said Bank 1 and Bank 2 wrong in the vid) B1 is cyl 1 3 5, B2 is cyl 2 4 6 In the video, while facing the engine, Left is B1, right is B2. Though B1 is named RightHand (RH) and B2 is LeftHand (LH) (from drivers seat) In all wheel or front wheel drive vehicle, the engine is sideways so B1 is along the firewall blanket, while B2 is near radiator. Any car problems? Just yell. Stay safe ! : )
My Great Great Grandfather before my time always said, "Do it right the first time because when oh when are you going to have time to do it right the second time."
WARNING! READ THIS BEFORE GOING OFF THIS VIDEO!! Just a heads up…. That “pop” you were hearing was not your cams or phasers…. That “popping” noise is your chain skipping down lower due to bad Hydraulic tensioner(s) and or worn sprockets. If you look, your cams weren’t doing anything to make any noise. There’s nothing they can do to make a popping noise like that….To anyone that hears this noise, listen closely or use a stethoscope and you will hear that the noise is coming from down lower and when you remove the front cover go a head and spin tue engine clockwise again and you will see the chain slip…. I’ve done a ton of these and 99 percent of the time you will watch the chain slip on the bottom gear. This isn’t anything negative to the content creator as he’s trying to help…. When doing this job since you’re this deep replace all of the tensioners, sprockets, chains oil pump and if needed valves and valve seals.
Yea do yourself a favor and replace all cam phasers and oil pump. It’s an extra 300 but better than rebuying everything all over again. Learn from me, my cloyes set lasted 15k because of a bad phaser. Broken the yellow plastic guide on bank 1 and bent all intake valves. 1200 later I’m up and running again all because of a 67 dollar cam phaser.
Bank 1 is passenger side brother
thanks for sharing .. got the same problem and I didn't replace the phaser just chains and didn't fix....
first video in my channel
Thanks tho good vid. Timing marks explanation was good too. I was definitely looking for those
I just changed my crankshaft, rod bearings, oil pump, cam phasers, and timing chains kit, exhaust solenoid and my engine is at 10 psi oil pressure which is the minimum. Any idea why it’s so low? It’s a 2010 Camaro 3.6
Removed R chain with engine on stage two, rotate to stage one and removed bottom and left and done deal sr.
Suppose to replace the little flat washer things behind the phasers
drill out pvc holes are too small and cylinder one in rocker cover blocks up and gunk block timing chain and oil pump look at difference in rocker covers and each head one side is clean other side is gunked up because of pvc to small and cannot breath
Change your oil every 4 to 5 thousand miles, and check your oil level, use a good quality synthetic oil, Delos standard, and you will not have problems.
DAMN! That engine & Cam-phasers look awfully varnished in the Cam-Valleys!! Dear Lord......
On my 2015 LTZ (70,000 mi now), I've added a Cup of Seafoam to my Oil about 500 miles before I get it changed. ALWAYS Mobil-1. NEVER more than 5,000 mile intervals either! My baby runs smooth & STRONG. Also use SF in the gas once a month. Used regularly over time, SF really helps keep things clean in an engine like an LFX. Regular use will help you AVOID issues like this in the first place!!!
ive changed mine with mobile 1 every 5k miles and always checked and topped off if needed , still need to replace my chains. the mechinism that feeds oil to the chains on the ltt just sucks, gm even put out a bulitin and special kit specific for this known issue.
Sorry about that I heard they improved the later 3.6 engines.
@@markbaumgartner7261 yeah, supposedly they fixed the issue on the 2012 and newer v6 models. Other then that the engines are pretty good. 110k miles till it needed new chains isn’t bad in my opinion, that’s about when most cars start having a ton of issues
@@jamesgamerguy3 Funny how the 5.0 in my 2019 Mustang Gt is a multi valve engine and it doesn't have timing chain issues. Even the Northstar Cadillac didn't have chain issues. It had head bolt issues but once you put the studs in it it was fine , had the occasional oil leak. You would think GM could made the chains better. The 3.6 was developed by Cadillac.
Did 3.6 rockers & push rods ..lock cams in with tool everything is lined up as before ..But When I turn crank @ 1 spot on left side bank chain get a little slack not as much as yours. is that normal..again everything is lined up .this on a dodge 3.6
when replacing the cam phaser did you reuse the washer behind it or not . Im replacing camshafts and cam phasers and want to know about these washers /spacers
I have been told to replace those washer with the correct one, i believe there are 2 thickness types. Check with the dealer.
Hey, do you need a special tool to replace phasers if you replacing the chains, sprockets, tensioner, oil pump and all?
Seems to me your hydraulic chain tensioner might be the problem, my engine it seems to be sticking and letting chain slip I saw it with my own eyes
This question isn't about timing but what is the sensor down by the oil pan and harmonic balancer? I can't find the wire but the senor is in the front which is facing the passenger side
replace all the cam phasers? or just affected side?
Please use only GM VVT Sprockets And Chain Kit.... Don't Use Dorman VVT Sprockets Or You Will Have Trouble.
Why??
Hopefully you didnt mess up.the valves.
This is the truth. Dorman simply doesn't have the technology to recreate cam phasers. Same with the Ford 5.4.. do NOT buy generic cam phasers- only O.E.M. or you will have problems. Or should.
@@dustinbaumgart2820 there's about a 50° margin of safety here, hard to F it up
The other thing if you look at one side of the motor it's all black built-up black crap motostuff oversized ill clean need to do the little clickers on the valve drill it out like 1 mil
Today FJ cruiser
you can put all three chains on in stage 1 timing. look for the Melling video that shows you how.
@@DevJB I have done 5 3.6 timing chains all with Melling parts and following Melling's stage one timing. They all worked fine.
@@tonytony279 can't find the video. Can you share the link?
@@tonytony279 How long does the job take for in car job? I'm about to do a 2008 Pontiac Torrent. And have you ever tried any of the lower price kits on Amazon and Ebay?
Not phase one but TDC
@@houptee Mine was RWD so that's probably easier than FWD but it took about 12 hours total. I'd stick with the Melling sets, the others are most likely chinese
Hi corey, are u sure about the stage 2 timing removing all the chains and not doing it in two stages ,my mechanic done it all in one stage ,stage 2 now i have multiple misfires and he says it was done corectly which doesn't make sense as the car was running fine before it, exept for a code that came up a p0008 .
@jimmys1164 another common issue is changing the chains without changing the sprokets and phasers , often times causes the chain to jump as the old teeth are worn out and cause timing difficulties
How much he charged you?
What's your torque spec on the phaser?
What was the codes shown? I have same problem but the engine light is on and the codes are p0089, p0300, p0302,p0304,p0306 did you have the same codes ?
Nice video. What is the torque setting for the cam phaser bolt? Thanks!
43 ft lbs
How many miles on this engine?
how many miles were on it when you replaced the timing chain?
s there a way to adjust the timing without marks? I took the chain out and my stupidity allowed me to turn the the sprocket s individually, which turned the cams. Now I have no idea where I am at. Call me an idiot because I am. 2015 Chev malibu 2.5
Hi when u rotated from stage 2 to stage 1 timing to instal stage 1 timing chains did u go clockwise or antyclockwise
this is a variable time engine never go counter clockwise always clock wise
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You always rotate an engine clockwise (clockwise when standing in front of the engine.)
What does state 1 stage 2 mean
Hi stage 1 is that 5 oclock and 8 oclock stage 2 , also do u start off at tdc.?
Replace all cam phasers and all ways replace oil pump while doing chains
What year is that one
It’s the sprockets,they are worn..replace them
Yeah, umm... see that Dorman logo on there? Don't buy those.
How did you find top dead center?
both sets of cams should have the rear flats face up , thats how you know
So which cam phaser you replace
He replaced Bank 2, exhaust cam phaser.
(he said Bank 1 and Bank 2 wrong in the vid)
B1 is cyl 1 3 5, B2 is cyl 2 4 6
In the video, while facing the engine, Left is B1, right is B2.
Though B1 is named RightHand (RH) and B2 is LeftHand (LH) (from drivers seat)
In all wheel or front wheel drive vehicle, the engine is sideways so B1 is along the firewall blanket, while B2 is near radiator.
Any car problems? Just yell. Stay safe ! : )
If your gonna do something do it right the first time!
My Great Great Grandfather before my time always said, "Do it right the first time because when oh when are you going to have time to do it right the second time."
What in god's name are you blathering about?