Timing Chain Replacement GM 3.6L GDI 08 CTS (part 2)

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  • Опубліковано 21 лип 2024
  • • Timing Chain Replaceme...
    Cloyes Timing Chain kit / No Gear www.amazon.com/dp/B00L99IZLC?...
    FEL-PRO Timing Cover Gasket www.amazon.com/dp/B07Z98LL57?...
    Permatex Ultra Black Max www.amazon.com/dp/B0002UEN1U?...
    NGK Iridium Spark Plug www.amazon.com/dp/B00J62NNAC?...
    • GM 2.8/3.0/3.2/3.6L Ti...
    0:00 Referencing Cloyes Gear & Products
    0:37 Stage 2 Timing
    2:09 Simplifying engine layout
    2:18 Bank 1 Cam Flats
    2:47 First chain removal
    3:14 Stage 1 Stage 2 Explained
    4:07 Stage 2 timing cylinder 2 TDC
    5:01 Stage 1 Timing
    6:23 Bank 2 Cam Flats
    6:43 Stage 1 timing cylinder 1 TDC
    7:04 Stage 1 chain' removal
    7:38 Theory sprocket replacement
    8:40 Cloyes Timing Kit
    8:40 Timing cover water pump seal
    9:09 Comparison chain stretch
    10:09 First Chain Install
    11:42 Modify color link
    12:32 Install chain tensioner
    13:13 Check Timing/Pull Pin
    13:24 Primary chain guide
    14:08 Install primary chain
    16:25 Rotate engine stage 2
    16:48 Bank 1 Timing marks/Install chain
    18:32 Install chain tensioner
    19:11 Check Timing/Pull Pin
    19:47 Reset chain tensioner
    20:42 Manual rotate engine
    21:56 Starter rotate engine .
    22:20 Timing cover prep
    23:23 Install timing chain cover
    24:37 Torque Pattern
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  • @thunderchild321
    @thunderchild321 5 місяців тому +3

    This by far is explained thoroughly step by step. Others say i already did this or that. Not him, just watching im getting brave to tackle 3.6 traverse. Wish me luck 😳

  • @Mobogli
    @Mobogli 4 місяці тому +2

    He is like the Bob Ross of car engines!

  • @generalmotors3876
    @generalmotors3876 10 місяців тому +3

    He explains very expertly 🫡

    • @wildwoodtop
      @wildwoodtop  10 місяців тому

      Generalmotor 👍 Awesome!

  • @mikev6379
    @mikev6379 7 місяців тому

    Thank you so much for this video 🙏 it helped me out and was real easy to understand!!

  • @IFixCrap2094
    @IFixCrap2094 2 місяці тому +1

    Awesome vid. Such a great teacher

  • @ChiCub83
    @ChiCub83 9 місяців тому +2

    This is excellent, thank you!

  • @swansboroautoandmechanical6164
    @swansboroautoandmechanical6164 9 місяців тому +1

    Buick enclave. Have done it 3 times now. All new parts including phasers . Persistent P0019. Have checked the crank clock ring as well. Welcoming insight and suggestions

    • @wildwoodtop
      @wildwoodtop  9 місяців тому +1

      Way too difficult to throw out an answer when there are so many scenarios that could be causing this malfunction. Example, let's say your timing cover for some reason is not in close proximity with the cam sensor as it used to be. That in and of itself would throw a P0019

  • @dronepontagrossa
    @dronepontagrossa 9 місяців тому +2

    I need help with the GM HFV6 engine, because I had to change the crankshaft, but there are 2 models where the accessory pulley key changes. I installed the new crankshaft with a different type of key and the car does not start and shows a timing error in the engine. Can anyone who knows this engine well tell me if there are any changes between the 2 crankshaft models that could be causing this problem or could it just be a mounting error at the point of the chains? thanks.

  • @samuelturner9452
    @samuelturner9452 10 місяців тому +2

    Very good video

  • @Hazzy238
    @Hazzy238 2 місяці тому +1

    When you cranked over the engine ( 22.01 in the video) the drivers side top tensioner moved in and out. Why does this happen?
    I'm in the middle of doing this job at the moment. I did the chains , finished the job, started the engine. Some knocking noises heard.
    Removed the front cover and cranked over the engine. The tensioners were moving in and out ( like yours did). We thought it was caused by lack of priming the oil pump ( also replaced) . Did all the installation over again. Ran the engine. Still some noises? Any ideas?

    • @wildwoodtop
      @wildwoodtop  2 місяці тому

      The tensioner moves due to tension on the cams (the added tension is released in tension movement) in other words it's normal but as far as the noise I'm not sure what that would be

  • @PinkyyyFloyddd
    @PinkyyyFloyddd Рік тому +1

    Loved your video. Learned a lot! I have to ask, how could the chains stretch in three years??

    • @wildwoodtop
      @wildwoodtop  10 місяців тому

      Could not agree with you more! Stretch changes in 3 years and in under 20,000 miles. Very puzzling 🤨 I have no clue why they Stretched (Changed oil regularly)

  • @maritzzajeronimo8428
    @maritzzajeronimo8428 2 місяці тому

    First time doing timing chains and I didn’t realize that even tho the timing marks line up, you could still be 360 degrees out. So luckily on the right side I successfully put it into the stage two timing position to remove the secondary chain on the right side but when I tried to move to stage one, I didn’t realize that the cams were off until after I took the chains off. I just wanted to know if there was a way to fix the cam positions on the left side without affecting the right side and not damaging the motor.

    • @wildwoodtop
      @wildwoodtop  2 місяці тому

      Perhaps cam holding tools might assist 🙂 also chain stretch can make the flats not be in exact alignment on your cams when the crankshaft and oil pump timing marks are aligned 💋

  • @jalton9416
    @jalton9416 Місяць тому

    Very nice video

  • @DECIFERTHIS09
    @DECIFERTHIS09 7 місяців тому

    So at first position cylinder 2 should be at the top and the cams flat right? Then when you turn the crank to the second position the cylinder 1 should be at the top and the cams set flat meaning valves closed? I say this because I'm starting from scratch with new heads and cams that lost timing with the cylinders completely.

    • @wildwoodtop
      @wildwoodtop  7 місяців тому

      That's correct (I use the term "Stage 2" (4:10) Referencing "First position" as you stated

    • @DECIFERTHIS09
      @DECIFERTHIS09 5 місяців тому

      @@wildwoodtop it worked out great

  • @user-uw9hn8ew5g
    @user-uw9hn8ew5g 11 місяців тому +1

    this is avery informative video I WANT TO KNOW WHY DOES THE LOWER TENSIONER CLICK EVERY 2 REVOLUTION.

    • @wildwoodtop
      @wildwoodtop  11 місяців тому

      That puzzled me as well but if you watch other videos there's click too

  • @ChrisLundgren
    @ChrisLundgren 22 дні тому

    Hello, I am looking for some urgent help. I had the bank 1 chains on, then I connected the primary chain (bottom) everything was lined up. Then when I went to rotate to install the bank 2 chains, the crankshaft rotated to far past the oil pump dot. I then tried to rotate a half dozen times to get the motor to get all spots to the chain and spokes to all line up. Is this the proper procedure or is there another way to do this or did I mess something up?

    • @wildwoodtop
      @wildwoodtop  22 дні тому

      Sounds like the engine took off on its own ? if that's the case you did not have the engine in the proper position and the cam was under stress and took off .. if this is what happened it's going to be difficult to get things lined up because this is an interference engine whereas the valves can kiss the piston and will stop the engine from moving. it's difficult to explain not being there in person, but if things are so out of whack you don't know what to do it's almost as if you're starting over with all the chains off, if that's the case I would line up the crank dots in stage 2 timing making sure cylinder number 2 piston is top dead center 4:07 then rotate the crankshafts until the flats are up on the back of the camshafts and install your first chain 6:23 (word of caution if you don't have an understanding of the mechanics of the engine it's might be best to have a friend or mechanic look at the engine Or keep reviewing this video and eventually things will come together for you)

  • @phillipMays-uz4wu
    @phillipMays-uz4wu 2 місяці тому +1

    Hey how's it going I was going by your video doing my timing on a 2008 Cadillac CTS and we have gotten to the point to where you put oil on the change to get ready to turn over your motor. Can you tell me, did you have to plug anything up in order to get power to your starter to turn your engine over? We did exactly what you said on the timing but when we try to turn the engine over and we got nothing.

    • @wildwoodtop
      @wildwoodtop  2 місяці тому +1

      Yes, Ya need to reattach plug in the ECM connectors and then the starter should work

    • @phillipMays-uz4wu
      @phillipMays-uz4wu 2 місяці тому

      @@wildwoodtop thank you!

  • @Hazzy238
    @Hazzy238 4 місяці тому

    Bank 1 drivers side, bank 2 passenger side. What about the countries that drive on the other side of the road? Would a simple left and right ( sitting in the car) be better?

    • @wildwoodtop
      @wildwoodtop  4 місяці тому

      Never thought about that expect 😋 Thank you ✌

  • @keananconnor4221
    @keananconnor4221 6 місяців тому

    Yaknow this was the best thing I did for my engine.

  • @bs57t
    @bs57t 3 місяці тому

    At 22:24 when you're spinning the engine over the three chain tensioners are moving in and out as the engine spins. Only one of mine moves (left side). Only thing different is I'm turning mine over by hand on the crank bolt. Your thoughts sir?

    • @wildwoodtop
      @wildwoodtop  3 місяці тому

      22:24 🤔 I do think I know what you're referring to and it has to do with the spring tension on the valves creating an area of need for relief which is notably visual in the tension guides 🙂

    • @bs57t
      @bs57t 3 місяці тому

      @@wildwoodtop Hmm! What you are saying makes perfect since. But is this telling me that there is a problem with the head. The car was running great. Just throwing a P0009 and I wanted to be proactive on the chain. What would you do at this point? Run it or try to figure this out?

    • @bs57t
      @bs57t 3 місяці тому +1

      Found the problem! The new tensioner on that side was faulty. I took it off for inspection and found that is was binding up (jacked) and would not go back in after releasing the pin. Easy fix installed the old one. All tensioners are free and maintaining tension in (moving in and out). Thanks for the help sir

    • @wildwoodtop
      @wildwoodtop  3 місяці тому

      🤟✌🤟

  • @cobrathewolf4357
    @cobrathewolf4357 7 місяців тому +1

    Im trying to do the timing on the drivers side of my 08 pontiac g8 abd i cant get one if my cams to go TDC how do i fix that?

    • @cobrathewolf4357
      @cobrathewolf4357 7 місяців тому

      Also where can I find the tool to make sure the cams are TDC both sides.

    • @wildwoodtop
      @wildwoodtop  7 місяців тому

      @@cobrathewolf4357 did you try Amazon www.amazon.com/Orion-Motor-Tech-Retaining-Alignment/dp/B083PZHXKF/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2G5ZP58MR08WZ&keywords=08+pontiac+g8+engine+cam+alignment+tool&qid=1702353482&replacementKeywords=engine+cam+alignment+tool&s=automotive&sprefix=08+pontiac+g8+engine+cam+alignment+tool%2Cautomotive%2C110&sr=1-1&vehicle=2008-52-6613------------&vehicleName=2008+Pontiac+G8

    • @wildwoodtop
      @wildwoodtop  7 місяців тому

      I'm not familiar with 08 pontiac g8 engine cam alignment but if it looks the same as this vid follow same procedure. Hope this helped

    • @wildwoodtop
      @wildwoodtop  7 місяців тому

      This should help 👍 ua-cam.com/video/fzTj7sWRZcs/v-deo.html

    • @cobrathewolf4357
      @cobrathewolf4357 7 місяців тому

      ​@@wildwoodtopI was hoping to find one in a store dont exactly have the time to wait for it to ship lol

  • @E93AZlivin
    @E93AZlivin 8 місяців тому

    Is this the LY7 engine? My 09 cadillac cts4 3.6 needs this job done.

    • @wildwoodtop
      @wildwoodtop  8 місяців тому +1

      My 08 CTS is the direct injection version so I'm assuming it's a LLT

    • @E93AZlivin
      @E93AZlivin 8 місяців тому

      @@wildwoodtop thanks for the reply. Is your vehicle awd?

    • @wildwoodtop
      @wildwoodtop  8 місяців тому +1

      Nah, RWD

    • @E93AZlivin
      @E93AZlivin 5 місяців тому +1

      Yeah its the same as long is the 3.6 engine
      I just got the timing chain done
      I órdered the timing chain kit online and i had it installed in mexico for 300 dlls
      Now the car runs great!

    • @wildwoodtop
      @wildwoodtop  5 місяців тому

      That's Awesome! 🤟

  • @RSAW73
    @RSAW73 8 місяців тому

    Excellent,.well described instructions. You must be an ex-instructor or GM tech?

    • @wildwoodtop
      @wildwoodtop  8 місяців тому +3

      Thx Dude! 👍 Nah I'm just an average Backwoods Backwards Ingenuity Shade Tree Mechanic ✌

  • @juanlanda2441
    @juanlanda2441 2 місяці тому

    I noticed the cam lobes are worn . Is that cheap metal . Even the V8 LS engines love to eat up cams.

    • @wildwoodtop
      @wildwoodtop  2 місяці тому

      cam lobes ate up 😲 I've never heard of such (lack of oil would definitely do it 🙂

  • @arealmaintenanceandrepairl1103
    @arealmaintenanceandrepairl1103 6 місяців тому

    Why do the guide tap like that

    • @wildwoodtop
      @wildwoodtop  6 місяців тому

      I know right 😲 but once they get oil pressure they stop 🤟

  • @Yahsharal864
    @Yahsharal864 18 днів тому

    I can’t line up the crank to the 1 cycle I need help

    • @wildwoodtop
      @wildwoodtop  18 днів тому

      Are you implying the engine is locked up, will not rotate if the engine is free to rotate it should line up.. The whole process starts with lining up the crank dot with the oil pump dot into Stage 2 before removing any chains 0:32

    • @Yahsharal864
      @Yahsharal864 18 днів тому

      Yes I’m trying to line it up but the cam marks in the back are flat and the crank dot is at 3oclock smh

    • @Yahsharal864
      @Yahsharal864 18 днів тому

      Either in bank 1 or bank 2 when the dot on crank it’s not flat or when dot on it’s not flat… I think I said that twice but I hope you understand

    • @Yahsharal864
      @Yahsharal864 18 днів тому

      By the way the engine is t locked up.. it turns freely bc I removed the spark plugs but I watched your vid maybe 5x and still can’t get it in the position needed to remove the chains… maybe I can email you pick of what I’m referring to. Thanks in advance!

    • @wildwoodtop
      @wildwoodtop  18 днів тому +1

      @@Yahsharal864 no email please 🙂 sounds like the chain has jumped time quite a bit Or the chains have stretched so much and that's why things are not lining up. Did the engine run good before you started this process

  • @williamhughey6875
    @williamhughey6875 5 місяців тому +1

    HATE THE UNRELIABLITY OF THIS ENGINE OVER THE LONG TERM!!!!!!

  • @milkyway6724
    @milkyway6724 Місяць тому

    look at me 😂

  • @user-yn7hb5po2f
    @user-yn7hb5po2f 7 місяців тому +1

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