New Rule: A Unified Theory of Wokeness | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)
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It's time to stop judging everyone in the past by the standards of the present.
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I've been saying this for years. Judging pre-industrial man on his survival from the air conditioned comfort of Starbucks on your 1000 dollar smartphone sipping on 6 dollar coffee is ludicrous.
Well said!
For all of Alex Jones ' faults he is not an anti-semite. Jones is actually a supporter of Israel, so that's where the joke falls flat.
They're 'weakest links '
Not to mention that practically everyone criticising historical people and figures would have thought and behaved no differently if they had lived in that time and culture.
Yeah except there are still crappy people and good people throughout history.
The biggest slave owning states fought to keep slavery.
Those were classical crappy people.
As a teacher of AP US History for over 20 years, I fight the battle against presentism on an almost daily basis. On most days I come home so drained and depressed that I question whether it’s a battle worth fighting.
Thank you for fighting the good fight. Hang in there. You will get thru to some of the kids.
Please keep going, Dan.
@@pbajnow A two party system and allowing corporations to be considered people.
I’m surprised you weren’t canceled
Please keep going, your advocacy is valuable!! I'm no woke lefty!
Great monologue Bill. Thank you for the courage speaking out that so many of us think.
Why don't you have courage to speak out?
@@johnmason1648 I do whenever I have the chance.
He's got no courage, more of an opportunist, he started pointing out the woke cancer after the pendulum started swinging back.
Judy I get that you don’t care about anyone’s history but your own and you think that the black plate should be forgotten what it all comes out in the end darling
@@rubylee98201my dude… no
I'm pretty far on the left, but Bill says perfectly what I've been trying to formulate for a while now. Not prosecuting people for who they love is not the same as blindly denying both history and biology.
A piece of paper isn't required to love someone. I loved Marcy Whitaker in the 10th grade, we didn't protest or r lack of joint health coverage. First it was "we just want to get married"...it's legal in all 50 states.
Now it's "oh we meant we wanted all the other shit everyone else got that has nothing to do with (loving who we want to love), figure out what you want, don't snowball it just to be a perpetual victim. The end
When Bill Maher starts sounding perfectly fair, balanced, and reasonable, you know society is going off the rails.
Just as "Ann" Rand predicted it would....
Exactly, I never thought I'd value his sketches, as he had always been quite biased himself. But when society gets so subjective that even Bill won't follow, his sensible insights are appreciated...and funny!
he nailed it
I agree - I totally enjoy his rants!
He's got good writers no doubt; but I'm suspicious. His views never were quite as we see here. Somethings up but I sure wouldn't trust him.
"These days when the truth conflicts with narrative its the truth that has to apologize." ...damn that's a quote to look back on for future generations.
that's true genius - it made truth a living thing
Although to be accurate this is not a recent phenomenon. The truth has always been pushed aside when it didn’t fit the narrative.
Don't wait, vote out the Democrats, or any liberals in your own country, and we can start to be normal again.
Yah, to be used AGAINST Billo Marr, not fór him.
Truths like .... trump orchestrated a coupe, but as with everything, he #EpicFail'ed at it??? Yup...yup, you got it, cobber.
That's such a great quote: "Women never get enough credit for the things they didn't do."
I majored in history 30 years ago. One of the first things we were taught was to judge people within the context of their era. Now, it seems students are taught the exact opposite. I suspect this contributes to the arrogance we see in todays student attitudes, they are told they're better than everyone who ever preceded them, just as Bill said.
These students ought to look at themselves through the eyes of someone living in 3022 and wonder if they are truly as great as they believe they are
You studied history and they taught you to JUDGE people? I'd ask for my money back.
@@Giby86 don't be obtuse... there. i judged you
@@Giby86 exactly
Maher is wrong in his interpretaton of "presentism".
He is trying to wipe the lines between morals and mores.
Moral values and the Golden Rule have been known for more that 2000 years.
If you do to others what what won't find acceptable oneself if in the own shoes, then that is not "presentism".
Does evey single crime of the past have to have consequences today? No.
Do we have to acknowledge that terrible crimes were committed in the past, for own gain? Yes.
I taught US history for 19 years and always told my students that you cannot judge the past by today’s thinking.
Yes, you can. Otherwise, you would still validate and perpetuate all the genocides of the past.
@@carloscappellini1687 You don't get it, Carlos.
We're not saying that you shouldn't try to learn from the past and try to be a good person, we're saying that you shouldn't judge the people from the past, because they lived their lives with the knowledge and moral compass of their time.
@@carloscappellini1687 When you look at past and say "Today that is not acceptable", you are judging with present thoughts, you are transposing the past to the present.
However, it is you that need to go back in time.
That is History.
What you are defending is that we always used present ideas, but anti-slavery, civil rights, pacific change in govern are all modern idea.
Shouldn't Western raised those ideas, and spread them all over the world and we wouldn´t be invalidating nothing. We don´t validate genocides because we growth and become wiser. Also, we invented machines that made us all richer, without starvation, more healthy. In a pre-capitalist world, we would kill to see one more sunshine if necessary.
Ruanda had a genocide not many years ago, China is making one, Birmânia also.
It is in our DNA, we are, by far, the most cruel animal and it is culture that constrains it, the same that wokes wants to destroy.
@@AdelaeR We should not judge people from the the past because they lived their lives with the knowledge and moral compases of their time?
If you are not talking about murder, slavery, theft, incest, etc; then what is so morally inportant from those wonderful human attributes?
If I don't get it well, you really have lost your "compass"...
@@carloscappellini1687 Morality is relative and thus is different from every time/place. Therefore, viewing a historical period's morality through the lens of current morality limits our understanding of history. Look at how quickly entire historical periods and figures are written off based on today's standards. That leads to an inaccurate understanding of history and thus lends itself to the sort of ignorance that causes history to repeat itself.
This is someone I watched occasionally on "Politically Incorrect." But couldn't stomach his bias on "Real Time..." But to think how much he speaks the truth now with no fear makes me happy that he is looking at things from a broader angle and with such perfect sense.
He hasn't changed much. You just disagreed witb his point of view.
Bill Maher has become the voice of America & COMMON SENSE. Yes there is the funny sarcasm that is Bill Maher, but underneath it all there is the seriousness & the reality of it all. You go Bill!
He's right about slavery, this needs to be taught in every school
Ask a black man in the US when the WHITE man was set free in Europe.......then ask for your reparation FROM HIM!
that sht wont fly because every institution whether education, marriage or fill in the blank is all owned entirely by the oligarchs who own the corporations, the media of course being its most dangerous institutional tool by which they enslave the masses Through hypnosis, mind control subliminal messages.
Yes, it is so important to teach about how bad the exploitation of historical slavery was .as well as how bad present-day slavery is, even in today's United States.
One the best Anti-Wokeism monologues ever!
What is your inturpretition of being woke.??
@@user-uv6oq8mz5c- Woke = The religious-like belief in the theory of Intersectionality; Anti-Truth; Mass hysteria
@@user-uv6oq8mz5c - fyi: it is spelled "Interpretation"
@@user-uv6oq8mz5cI hate what they did to the word woke. They can have it, it's dirty and nasty.
Bill Maher is freaking awesome. I have disagreed with him on many things over the years. Him being more “liberal” leaning than myself. But I have always found him funny. We need more people like him who aren’t afraid to tell it like it is. Love him or hate him, Bill always brings it!! Your killing it Bill! Keep it up!
My favorite history teacher always said we must judge those by the standards of the time they lived in, not by the current standards of the time we live in.
How about we just not judge them in the first place? Learn from history to better understand the present.
There were always people against the status quo who saw what was good from what was bad. We fought a whole war over it.
@@ZeeCaptainRonYES!!!!!
The R Kelly joke had me howling
If every high school history class in the US had to watch this monologue at the beginning of the semester I would feel much better about the future of the USA.
Problem is, the kids wouldn’t listen nor would it sink in.
Or teachers LISTEN
I imagine most religious people and aspiring autocrats would agree with you....
It’s funny we celebrate black history month, but try to change 200 hundred years of history
Black people got screwed on Black History Month anyway. It's in FEBRUARY, the shortest month of the year.
"People make being offended these days their main personality trait"--Bill Maher
Bill is literally offended. How do people not see the ridiculousness of his message
@@hunterjones592 Because it isn't ridiculous, no matter how much you want it to be.
@@charlesajones77 just ignore the point I made and claim otherwise without any argument?
@@hunterjones592 You mean exactly like you just did?
@@charlesajones77 and what point did I ignore?
As a fellow history major, thank you Bill.
As always, thank you Mr Maher for telling the truth and not even apologizing once🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Seek help and have your emoji addiction treated.
I teach in the public schools. Maher is right on point here. Glad Maher isn't backing down. Don't apologize for what you said, Mr. Maher. Hold your ground. You're speaking truth and people need to learn to deal with it.
Maher is wrong. He's ignoring the victims entirely. They knew it was wrong and there were more of them. If you don't want it done to you you shouldn't be doing it to others. That's uncomplicated and uncontroversial. People with money and weapons simple profited from exploitation and cruelty. This hasn't changed. Democracy has just given voice to the oppressed.
Good thing that Ministry of truth thing hasn't materialized yet, otherwise Bills voice would be canceled by the cancel culture and labeled as hate speech.
Glad to hear a teacher is willing to listen to open-minded points of view,,, as you should hold as a standard in your class room😉 keep it real and fight the good fights🙏
We need more teachers like you who actually have a backbone
@@305donkryder8 : Backbone to rationalize and justify abuse and cruelty any child knows is wrong? Humanity didn't discover human decency and morals 100 years ago. Everyone who was being abused knew it was wrong. These people weren't children, they knew what they were doing which is why they had to enforce their abuse with weapons. The people they were abusing knew it was wrong... but they aren't even taken into consideration. What a whitewash.
This monologue should be shown in every history class.
what?
"The Holy Bible is an owner's manual for slaveholders."
~~B. Maher
exakt
No. Professor Thomas Sowell should be taught in ever school.
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True humor!!!!! You're educating people at the same time!
“Being woke is like magic moral Time Machine were you judge everybody against what you imagine you would have done in 1066 and you always win!”
That quote should be on a billboard on every highway in America….
See, I'm an actual historian. And I have to say Presentisim and wokeness are definitely my least favorite mind set. When I wanted to learn about Julius Ceasar and his rise to power, first thing I did was go and study the entire of Rome history until that point, their culture, their religion, their daily life, their politics. Then studied his life up until his political rise. THAT WAY I COULD UNDERSTAND THE WORLD HE LIVED IN AND HIS STATE OF MIND. Then I was finally ready to study his rise to power. . . . . .but if I'm a presentist, all I have to do is read a quick snippet, then judge the hell out of him, through the lens of my own experience. Its fake history, its fake study.
Lol. That is not being woke... Woke or to awaken means to be well informed on injustices you did not know. What your describing is something else. In a way, your woke, since you now understand how an empire like Rome treated the ones they conquered and how an empire runs on the backs of others. Then you also know how they destroyed Carthage and all traces of it and how much knowledge was lost from it.
@@RickBeacham do you know why they destroyed Carthage?. . . . .
It’s not presenting. It’s Marxism being applied.
Do you think Hitler was a bad person?
@@RickBeacham
Wrong, wokeness is a group think cult
I’m not typically a fan of Maher; but I’ll give credit where it’s due. This was a great monologue, and I appreciate his honesty.
Right?! I am surrounded by very strong, conservative ideals, and people. I was really glad that I stuck around to hear him out. Well worth the listen.
@@youniquelyerika7003 I'll be honest when I say I have no earthly idea what "conservative ideals" even means. If it means lying constantly, continually screwing over everyone who isn't rich, convincing millions of hard working Americans you support them while scheming to destroy social security and medicare, lying for decades about how the economy and foreign policy functions and claiming you "support law and order" while pretending an insurrection didn't happen where cops got bludgeoned with flag poles and fire extinguishers then I guess I get it? Go forth proudly brave conservative! Don't worry the adults in the room will correct the moronic mistakes your morally bankrupt political party makes when given the chance.
Check him out on Ben Shapiros podcast. That explains it all. He’s done with the woke . Even he said it’s gone too far .
I don't like him either, but he seems to be the only prominent pundit on the left speaking sensibly about this issue.
#Me too ✋️
Every once in a while Bill Maher beautifully speaks the truth and this is one of those times
Many of Bill's New Rules would make a convincing polemic if printed in a book (minus the audience applause). Go for it Bill.
"The capacity for cruelty is a human thing" - well said
ever watched a cat with a mouse?
@@GaZonk100 or a pod of killer whales with a seal?
*Ever seen chimps with other chimps. They can be pretty horrible sometimes. The ape called Man isn't any different.*
"Nature is cruel--we (humans) don't have to be." ~Temple Grandin~
Yeah, because we are part of nature.
Glad to have Maher addressing a few of the absurdities that are going on these days. He’s a brave man to try and reason with the insane mob who used to embrace him.
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SCOTt. he's not dealing with absurdities. He's dealing with things even less important...the mundane. Sure change can be irritating, so TRY HARDER lazy ass Maher who just sits there and snipes at everyone. You can see the bitterness set in his face.
Brave?dude this guy had all the info on Biden and he told you he was a solid guy.48 years of tax payer funded plagiarism.dude gave a eulogy for a klan member dint bother bill marr.bill knew the hunter biden laptop was real just like we did and he lied.biden gave 60 billion 2 ukraine where he makes his money with hunter through the government not a problem for bill even tho only 30 percent went to the war .but still cant be honest about trump and Jan 6th and the video evidence that shows the police waving them in.and he never will be, because he's a spinless actor
Real Liberals still embrace him...not everyone's a nutty far leftist...
Agreed! More speed and strength to him.
Bill, as we all age, our views change. We wise up and learn that history is real. Thanks for many thoughtful REAL insights and balanced observations of TRUTH and actual tolerances.
Dead On 100% nailed it! And so funny too! Humor is back!
“The most effective way to destroy people is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history.”
― George Orwell
"The Holy Bible is an owner's manual for slaveholders."
~~B. Maher
@@martykayzee8398 read it and you will know. The Word slave in the biblical refers to mostly wage workers and indentured servamts. They were prohibited by God to misteat them.
These were mostly people who came into debt and had to work to repay or prisoners of war. Either way sooner or later the would be freed.
@@martykayzee8398 Olson wells was a socialistas. What he said has nothing to do with the bible
@@ereceeme Lies, lies, and lies again. Your apologies are NOT accepted. You READ it and YOU will know.
@@ereceeme The bible has nothing to do with anything except for lies, lies, and more lies.
“It’s amazing how much panic one honest man can spread among a multitude of hypocrites. ”
― Thomas Sowell
Oh how I wish Sowell was younger and in the mainstream - he’d be annihilating the woke left
these days it doesn't take much to start a panic.
Here, let me try:
1) The sky is blue.
2) The world is round.
3) We are descended from ape-like creatures.
4) There is no god.
That should do it.
It worked in the 19th century, it should work now.
No surprise that this historically illiterate monologue attracted fanboys of the historically illiterate Sowell.
@@themaskedman221 Really? Explain how the monologue is historically illiterate and then explain how Thomas Sowell is historically illiterate. And for someone who thinks lowly of Bill Maher you spend a lot of time watching and commenting on his videos.
@@thegabrielfrost Claimed Columbus was a typical example of someone from 15th Century Europe. Ignores (or isn't aware) he was imprisoned for human rights abuses against the natives, namely torture.
Then the trope about slavery. Comparing racial chattel slavery in Early Modern Europe to slavery in antiquity implies a profound ignorance of the subject and is exactly the sort of thing Sowell does.
Bill Maher is a national treasure. It's just that simple.
This is really helpful about thinking about one's own past, like in highschool, etc
"Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past."
-George Orwell 1984
Testify!!!
Rage Against the Machine
I mean, it was true in George Orwells imagination, therefore it must be true in reality too.
Cope
It therefore follows who controls the present controls the future. Which is true regardless.
As a longtime history geek, I couldn’t agree more😊
He was right on huh? I was thinking he might drop the fact that the first three countries to abolish slavery were England, France and the United States. That should be more well known. Also have you read where one third of the lynchings in the South were of White Republicans. Candace Owen said that. I don't know where she got it from. Would you?
So geek, you must of had comparative studies at your junior college, right? Then you should know that everything Maher said was FALSE ! He is a RACIST.
One thing people should know about history that while it is sometimes subjective, it mostly comprises of objective facts.
Now pardon me while I play CIv6...
Has Bill ever read a history book?
@@eltopo71 He majored in history at Cornell University.
I agree with everything he says because it is the very same thing I have been telling my woke friends all along. 🤣 Much respect from the Philippines.
Spot on Bill. Keep on keepin' on.
This is excellent. Thank you Bill for bringing some sanity to the craziness.
Pointing it out after voting for all of it.
@@90swerethebest10 Everyone should be allowed to see the light.
@@90swerethebest10 well... the other side are FULL FASCISTS, so yeah... he vote for it.
@@90swerethebest10 How about this. The Rs kick out this "MY FAITH....... therefore MUST be law!" crowd.
@@Iansco1 I agree
Bill is so clever. He's able to mix heavy info, gut punches and real laughs and keep a nice pace. Masterful, really.
While I agree on Bill generally being a genius, this was child's play compared to what some conservative commenators are able to pull (and stay factual). You really should open your mind.
You know he has writers don't you?
@@creativitysubs9935 A genuis? More like idiotic copycat, riding the pop culture wave of discontent. Find some original material.
In past never paid much attention to Bill and especially his agenda. But my how things have changed for the better. Guess he is a good example how common sense comes to most of us as we get older and wiser to some of the nonsense that is being pushed by current trends. Not all present thought is wrong or silly but some things are laughable as Bill and his writers point out. After all he is an entertainer and is making a living now at trying to make us laugh.
Not so much. He had no consideration for the MAJORITY who were the abused. They all knew it was NOT NORMAL and was wrong.
I’m new to watching Bill and he seems to call out everyone on their BS. I love it.
Yes. He has changed
@@jazura2Well, he got tired of people getting away with their BS.
As a side note, I sometimes think some movies only go straight to streaming so they can't flop in theaters. And I think that ballooning one that tried to rewrite documented history would have bombed HARD.
On topic: well said, Bill, and it feels like what I've been saying for years: human beings in any place and any time have the potential to totally suck.
"Women never get enough credit for the things they didn't do" 🤣
Yeah, but they'll take it. And act like a princess as they do...
Don’t try can’t be blamed 👏🏿
"Humans are NOT good people."
I award Bill +10 Internet points for that one.
He’s not a good person either.
If you want, read "The Better Angels of our Nature" by Steven Pinker. He goes into a lot of historical detail about the nasty things people considered normal and fun centuries ago.
Eh…. Nah , no points for quoting what the Bible has been saying for 4000yrs plus ?
In that case, since I’m not a good person, I will steal those points to buy an illegal baby panda which I will use as paper weight.
Humans are the best people. There are not any better.
I called presentism out in a history class I had a year or two ago in uni - I could see the gears turning in my profs head as if he never heard of such criticism.
Thank you for being logical and really trying to be honest.
Every now and then Bill has a monologue that really rings home. This is definitely one of his best monologues.
*...if you're over 60 and should probably retire already... from general society.* Maher tries to be George Carlin. He's not.
@@hulkhatepunybanner Boomers will be in charge of your world for another 30 years, kid. And then it's GenX's turn, for another 20 years after that. Deal with it.
@@Tessmage_Tessera *Deal with it? I'm voting in Gen X to get the Boomers out of politics.*
Fix your mixed metaphors- It's either rings true or hits home. Amateur.
@@allisonrogers1409 Well done Allison. Great great contribution. God bless you goddamnit god bless you you hero you!!! Fuck you're amazing god bless again!!!
I never thought a day would come when Bill Maher and Ben Shapiro would start sounding the same. Just shows you how far gone our society is. Thanks Bill for standing up for common sense.
Except that Bill Maher helped put Wokeness into power. It’s too bad present Bill was the smart one, while past Bill had not even a tiny clue. Most of us saw this coming a long, long time ago.
He's just getting a jump start on the changes that are coming.
He’s always done this.
@@neckbone3943 🤞
@@neckbone3943 you're right about the changes. Unless Dems keep House and Senate the US will become a dictatorship very similar to Russia and Turkey. America is a backwards thinking and Extremely corrupt country.
Bill you hit the nail on the head. 😂 loved it!
You damn well know Meryl Streep would pull an Oscar out of that role of Seabiscuit like no other God bless her.😅
Bill Maher has been on fire lately. I swear I haven't laughed this hard to the point that I had tears in my eyes
Honestly, there isn't anything to laugh about... it's insanity of our nation in a way that won't further propagate a successful nation. He's correct about the things that are making this world a joke.
Bill Maher has been on fire lately. I swear I haven't laughed this hard to the point that I had tears in my eyes
He and Greg Gutfeld !!! 👍👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸👍👍👍
Ever since he somehow manged to take the red pill and wake up out of his leftist coma, to the beauty of reality.
@@Stew282 People copy paste that comment in every video but it makes no sense. How is he different now to any time?
I’ve gotten criticism from both sides of the aisle the past few years as a history teacher. So many people think that they can bend the historical narrative to their liking just to fit their own political agenda.
Yeah... Funnily enough I USED to be that type of person. Thankfully I'm not anymore.
I hear what you’re saying, but I don’t think it’s “presentism” to be critical of slave owners at the time, especially when abolitionism was also so prevalent. Certainly these people were of their time, but they also had agency, and they made conscious decisions to enslave, torture, and brutalize in order to make a profit.
And when things like that happens, as a history teacher, you should know you're on the verge of a regime.
@@DABIGDAWG001 - Whether or not the owning of slaves was "understandable" in that era, the real issue with regard of the history/mythology of the United States was that it was supposed to be a nation "conceived in liberty" yet retained slavery for political and economic reasons nonetheless. It's not slavery, per se, so much as the hypocrisy of the revered Founding Fathers which followed from it.
A bunch of wealthy white guys complaining about how they were being "oppressed" is pretty comical in the context of their having their misbehaving human property chained and whipped at home.
@@ndesdsadfd We had one for four years: Trump's fascism!
😂😂😂😂😂 Bill and his team do a great job telling it as it is and keeping it funny. Great comedy!
As a history major, if I could make every adult in America watch this video I would…. Thanks Bill, keep up the good work.
50% of them will accuse Bill of racism. I am afraid we are beyond repairs. When I vote these days, I mark everybody with a letter "R". These crazies must go.
When in your studies were you first taught about the Tulsa Oklahoma Massacre where 35 city blocks of Americans were murdered and their homes and businesses burned to the ground simply because they were black? This included veterans of World War 1. That 1921 AMERICAN history. Please let us know.
As a non american, it actually started to piss me off how some of your countrymen go on about something as though it's an isolated incident, as though it never happened anywhere rise before, & I'm not even a history buff, didn't even take it for the last three year of high school
@@porscheoscar what's that got to do with their statement?
@@porscheoscar --
Great point, but here Bill is admitted the whitewashing of history. He's spoke & written about that before. His criticism here is directed to historical censorship which is being committed largely by the left. And since most public & University educational systems are run not by conservatives but by "progressive" Democrats, u need to direct ur criticism towards the left leaning teachers unions, administrators & curriculum coordinators at the public & University level for that issue, instead of some random commentor here in UA-cam land
Thank you!! I’m a nobody. Just a lowly useless white male with 12th grade and trade school education. I have been saying this for as long as I can remember. The most ignorant thing a person can do is judge people from the past on todays standards. It never ceases to amaze me people do this. It’s a form of self righteousness that can’t be imagined by anyone with common sense. Of course you are going to cringe when you hear about the things people did, you live in the moment. But to persecute them, that’s a level of arrogance I can’t fathom. Unfortunately the people that do this have been given too much credibility and are warping the minds of the youth. It feels like irreparable damage.
the only ones who don't wanna judge the people of the past by todays standards are the ones who have a vested interest NOW to not be associated with the evils of the past. A (large) minority of whites doesn't wanna say outright "slavery was an evil thing" because they feel connected to the slavers and sometimes admire them, as well for their ungodly slaughter of 30 million Native Americans. Which was a genocide. more than a 100 different cultures and tribes have been eradicated by white Americans. To say: "Oh thats not a bad thing, you have to judge them by their own standard", THATS the real arrogance.
Slavery and genocide was and is always an evil thing. ESPECIALLY in the form white Americans did it. And spare me all the "indentured labor" analogies. That's just an evil group's justification for their evil actions.
You are not a nobody, mate, you are a person and you have value to many people.
Why bother posting if you are a nobody? Obviously no one is going to take it seriously.
It's just manipulation...Trying to make you feel guilty so that they can have their way.
Dont EVER start a statement with "I'm a nobody". You are as valuable as anyone. You make a difference in this world. Your voice is as important as anyone's. Do not apologize or belittle yourself.
Other than having to say that to you... I enjoyed your comment. Have a great day!!
"Representation is important. That's right! Its about time women get credit for shit they didnt do" ROFL Love it!!
Bill, this is one of my favorites! Thank you.. so true
I love how he holds his own to task. He's a liberal and he's calling them out. Very rare, on either side of the aisle, for someone to do that.
He has to. The left's censors are coming after him and his profession. Besides, he lived at the Playboy Mansion...
Stop that crap...It's VERY RARE that anyone from the "so called "ball bag right" says or does anything, but as far as Leftist's go on any subject, you may as well hunt polka dot Unicorns you flaming nitwit....All of you BASTARDS are burning in your Own Hell of your Own Making, you just haven't woken up on the other side yet, but a couple more Whaxxine Booster Loving Morons like you oughta solve all your hopes and dreams for you and ALL of your Ilk, you assclown NitWit!!
Eff this platform, as You Tube has become the ONLY AUTHORITATIVE PLATFORM OUT THERE IN THE WHACKY WISTFUL LIBBY DOUCHEBAG CULT OF STUPID-ALITY!!
He STARTED this crap!
@@sheikyerbooti2325 Maher was never some woke punk.
@@sheikyerbooti2325 Just like Trump was an 80s Democrat, Maher is an early 2000s Democrat. Its the only members club where the longer you're a part of it the more you hate being a part of it.
A friend of mine bit my head off when I told her that slavery existed across all races. And there were black people who benefited from slavery by selling other black people to white. In fact they traded them for things like umbrellas. She almost killed me for telling her that.
Wow. I guess people don’t like it when the facts ruin their narrative
You need to find new friends. Ones who actually bothered to read history will do.
But not all slavery was the same the Trans Atlantic was very different from other forms of slavery
@@DHDivineONE no, it wasn’t
@@hsmd4533 prove it
"Abuse history to control the present." Well put, Bill. That describes exactly what I see in America right now in 2023.
R Kelly .. was priceless 🤣
There is a difference between judging history and understanding it. In order to truly understand, you have to put aside the standards of the world that you live in and instead put yourself in the shoes of people who lived in the past. As hard as it may be, you have to attempt to understand the standards of the past. But instead, many people today are much more focused on simply judging history through the lens of presentism in order to push a narrative. This also leads to an oversimplification of history.
History is a complicated expance with fallen people, some who try and do good, in an evil world.
Soon they'll be blaming the cave men from 57,000 BC for our current year 2022 problems.. Watch.....
Africans did not sell their slaves. As Mr. Maher points out His-story is written by the victors. In the case of the trans Atlantic slave trade, and un-fought war. History?? Not! Current? Yes. US law clearly states that slaves and their offspring are not human. but mere animals.
Great comment.
Jefferson advocated for abolition, thinking it was morally repugnant and also would lead to bad economic results, He knew it was bad, like we all do. Yet he kept his slaves and annecodatly spoke of how they were better with him than the Deep South. We can talk about how thats gross and how that compromises him as a human while also talking about how is Americas best president and without his influence we wouldn't be the amazing nation we are today. We have to understand though the systemic pressures he lived within, society and systems had it that we had slaves during his time, he had a small part of that system but while being was not as powerful as the system. He advocated for it and failed one of the best politianas ever didn't do it, the system pushed on he and he accepted. We should see these people and question there morality or speak of there compromises the same we should think about ourselves in relation to sweatshops, homelessness, and environmental destruction. We have a hand on the wheel and should be judged, but its all our hands and the systemic powers that guide the ship.
*From Brazil:* We need heroes, defenders of truth and logic, like you, sir! Lots of respect ♥
The past? As perpetually validated by EEO-1s, EEO-4s, and countless independent research studies, except for more strategically placed "window dressing" of more token women and minorities in sports and entertainment, absolutely NOTHING has changed. Bill Maher is WRONG. He missed the point; the USA was founded on the statement, "We hold these truths to be self evident that all men are created equal," but at absolutely no point has this "principle" been practiced in the USA. In 1776, elite, well-educated, slave-owning, God-fearing White men began and have always made "the rules" and unilaterally continue to make exceptions to the "rules." If these smart, elite, slave-owning White men truly believed it was "self-evident" that all people, including women, are created equal, they would have said so, but they did not. They knew the meaning and value of words, and they elected to omit a specific timetable to officially establish a so-called "egalitarian" democratic republic from both the Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution. The
aforementioned is the "truth," and has absolutely nothing to do with playing the race card or the sex card. tripoetry.com/Letters/reynoldsrap-systemic.htm
Bill , you rock!! Appreciate you speaking all truth!!!
Nailing it just one line after another. Well Done Bill Maher.
When Bill Maher sounds conservative, you know we are in it pretty deep.
It's called logic & common sense...
The world has gotten so retreaded and delusional it has reached the point of critical mass . Hes just been around long enough to see it built up .
So, so true. I don't agree with him on everything, but he speaks a lot of truth. Plus, he is hilarious!!
@@chark4734 Conservatism has NOTHING to do with slavery. Democrats do. I don't understand your question.
Liberals stopped thinking Bill Maher was liberal a decade ago. Conservatives are finally listening to him enough to notice.
It's a wonderful thing to see when Bill has a moment of crystal clarity
It was wrong. Humanity didn't learn right from wrong in the last century. People knowingly chose to be abusive and cruel for profit. They were not children. They were malicious elites. It's a shame Maher never considered the perspective of those who were demeaned, exploited, enslaved, raped, and murdered. They were the majority and they knew it was wrong.
I have a suspicion that when you feel he isn't clear he's probably saying something you disagree with.
@@oobaka1967 I don't agree with anyone 100% of the time, just ask my wife
@@oobaka1967 I have a feeling you just put yourself on a higher moral plane over Kwatt-engineer, because his comment and this video make you feel threatened.
@@oobaka1967 Bill Maher can be objectively wrong too. He isn't all-knowing God. There are things that I know to be true that he doesn't.
I watch all the time. This is your Best yet.
One of your best, Bill Maher! Thank you!
It is terrifying that we even need to have this conversation about history and the fact that Bill's stand on this is brave rather than simple common sense.
You can say that "that is how it was then" and "that was wrong in the end" without contradicting. The problem I see every so often is WHO is complaining. And the "who" is usually the Elders. Who want "how things were" taken into account. Because if they are not "Back in my day" cant apply to "now".
The elites. Not the every day people
Good point.
@@Iansco1 Yes. Problems arise when context isn't taken into consideration. Columbus may have enslaved the Caribs, but it's also worth noting that the Caribs were believed to be warlike cannibals. And human sacrifice was a widespread practice among the Central and South American natives encountered by other explorers. It was an ugly and messy time. But 'presentists' allow their bias to blind them to key historical facts that don't reinforce the 'rightness' of their bias. That's how you end up with dishonest narratives like, "The natives were innocent people living an idyllic life and the evil white men came and destroyed that perfectly harmonious existence forever."
It's virtually impossible to study history without rooting for or against certain players. Having biases when studying history isn't a problem as long as you are aware of it, maintain perspective and don't try to excuse bad acts because they were committed by 'your team'. History is a mess of tragedy, atrocity and brutality sprinkled with occasional bright spots of progress and hope.
Dare I say....Brave AND stunning.....
As a US History teacher, I bring this up with my students. Still, every year it gets worse and worse, to where I am scared one day I am going to be called out as a racist or slavery apologist just because I want the kids to understand that while it was happening it was normal, it was what everyone at the time was doing. Sure, there were some abolitionists, but the majority were not. Now that in no way means I condone it today, just we have to cut the people back then some slack because they were just following the status quo...
I assume you're a lefty. The bleeding hearts started this shit.👌🇺🇸
Dont ever stop telling the truth friend. Your students will understand down the line.
Move to Texas and help them ban and burn books.
Except that the form of slavery performed in America, chattel slavery, was *not* normal. It was *magnitudes* worse than even the kinds of slavery performed by other imperialist colonial powers, because those other countries (like Spain and Britain) eventually let people out of slavery. They had *some* way to get out. It wasn't *inherently and purposefully* tied to race. That's literally why American slavers wrote their laws the way they did, to include "black" as a concept tied to slavery rather than "christian" or "muslim" like those other slaving nations did.
Pretending that American chattel slavery and *all* slavery are equivalent, tells me you're not qualified to teach the history of slavery in American at a complex level.
@RusaForever It’s just objectively false to say the Arab slave trade was worse. You could literally just convert to Islam in MANY of those cultures and they would no longer consider you a full slave. THAT is why America added a racial competent rather than the RELIGIOUS and CULTURAL components used before chattel slavery. You don’t fucking know what you’re talking about, kiddo 🤣🤣
I've come to really quite enjoy the Bill you've become!
Refreshing to hear honesty on slave history. I've been enjoying the new rule clips on the channel for months now. Ty
Presentism...I'm glad to finally know the word for this phenomenon. I've been saying this same thing for years. Judging people in the past based on today's moral standards is ridiculous.
It's a very ugly word though. As ugly as "ableism"
+Tim O How is it "ridiculous"? It may be invalid or misguided, but how is it "ridiculous"?
@@vadimastprojects8770 I'm not sure I get your point. How is "presentism" ugly? It is because we are discriminating against people in the past? I'm pretty sure they will not complain.
@@highroller-jq3ix It is ridiculous because people are wasting their time worrying about things that are long past instead of focusing on how to make things better in the future.
@@timo5838 Are you a Christian? If so, you seem to be an extreme hypocrite on this point. Regardless, doesn't everything we learn about everything always derive from the past? How can we make things "better" if we don't assess how they have been and determine some sort of standard to strive for based upon that? It just doesn't seem like you've thought this through very well.
''Women never get enough credit for the things they didn't do'' - Bill Maher. Well put.
Um just because you don’t know about women’s accomplishments doesn’t mean they didn’t occur.
@@mpoharper Um, because we know that some accomplishments were done by men, then we shouldn't women-wash them.
@@Antropovich not what I said!!
@@Antropovich I never said that male accomplishments should be unfairly given to women. I am thinking about Watson and Crick, for example, not giving credit to Rosalind Franklin. There are many developments by women that people never discuss. It is a fact that many men assume women will fail to compete that makes it especially hard in the workplace. I know I have sat on search committees in academia, industry, and government.
''Women never get enough credit for the things they didn't do'' neither for things they did.
'Miguel Vizcarra
I am a conservative, Bill I think you are spot on with this monologue!
Why is this guy so friggin' brilliant?! If common sense had a face it would be his. I may not agree with everything he says but he sure knows what he's talking about.
Bill has been on fire with these New Rules. He is saying what everyone knows but cannot easily say in public. I love history for the stories we as humans need to know about who we were and who we might become. Whatever was done in the past that was for the well-being of others, learn about it and do more of it. Whatever was done in the past that harmed others, learn about it and avoid doing it. That is how I deal with history.
That was the old saying about the importance of history: we need it to learn from it mistakes. I'm afraid people are just reading what happened & not analysing & dissecting it properly, it's just talk nonsense & complain after only looking at the surface, & then do the same thing again
if EVERYONE would say it in public... we'd be fine.
@@kurtsudheim825 Winston Churchill wrote: "Those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it." To be honest I read basically the same sentiment written by an ancient Roman author.
@@dag_of_the_west5416 God Bless HBO. Let's hope Larry David sticks it to 'em a little more on this season of Curb, too.
ooo dem urban stronghold? or uppity white suburbs? because who cant say these things irl?🧐 i find its usually usually the latter where they lose their ish 🤣 like omg i cant handle the realness of it 😱 im just karen drink more wine ull be OK 😒
obv u dont talk that stuff at work etc but i never been that type even pre culture war. less they know about me the better. ill never get down hiding natural facial reactions considering my face betrays _exactly_ my thoughts since expressionative af 😅 but im polite and cordial/deal what i got to where i have to be for cash then outside that tf i will deal w any basic Becky ish. and there is a reason im equating 👱♀️👩👩🦰 to the woke libs. but helen keller knows why beyond the data on it 💅 if they *really* cared about race and orientation groups were theyd learn what a muzzle was 🥤👀
Thank you Bill for standing for Truth, Justice and Integrity.
Maher is in the vote blue no matter who group. Google Marhers interview with Dr. Phil on the subject of Trump. Maher has Trump derangement syndrome.
He went on and on about his hate for him. And Dr. Phil was just trying to have a reasonable conversation.
@@billted3323 So your saying lets judge Maher on one point of view. So because he doesn't like Trump, everything else he says is no good? Wow, what derangement is that called?
@@cp9642 Judge someone on their words and actions.? Yeah , I'm deranged.
Maher isn't deranged for having a point of view. It was how he justified that point of view that was gross. Go watch the interview. Or not.....
@@billted3323 Hes old school Democrat. I may not always agree with them, but they are just as up in arms about this woke shit as we are.
@billted3323 It's not a Democrat and Republican thing. It's society as a whole. He's allowed to be left leaning and for there to be balance, we need both. It's the complete whackjobs that need to be dealt with. What these "progressives" are pushing is just as stupid as what the David Duke crowd is selling. The reasonable left needs to be heard more.
Insightful with a touch of humor I'm glad that I stopped by.
Love him or hate him but you have to admit it- he’s BRILLIANT AND SO FUNNY 😂
My wife and I have been aware and critical of presentism for years. We called it retro-shaming.
Retro-Shaming👏🏼👏🏽Love the word. Congratulations to you two on the creativity. I'll have to add that to my vocab
It's been a dumb idea since it started getting popular. If we all were flamed for the mistakes of our past we'd all be guilty and miserable. Grow and move forward people!
Nothing wrong with retroshaming and we need more of it i.e. LEARN from your mistakes of the past as a society, you people are so lame.
I f-ing retroshame myself every time I make a mistake which is how we learn from our mistakes. For those that want to say in their eulogy "I have no regrets" then anyone that says that or wants that said after they are dead is a f-ing moron, if they have no regrets then they never lived at all so that is impossible and a down right lie.
I studied sociology at high school where I learned about Ethnocentrism (using your country's values/customs as a yardstick by which you judge other people's customs and traditions) and I've always wanted a word to describe how people judge the past by today's standards. I think Presentism is a good term to use.
I’ve always used “modernity bias” but I may switch to Presentism
I learned two words today: Ethnocentrism from you and Presentism from Bill.
It is, but just now i'm thinking... Chronocentrism?
@@bearer0975 will look up the definition for that word a little later.
Which does not change the fact that it was wrong, no matter how long ago.
Excellent: Well said Bill!
Great stuff!! Really funny and absolutely truth!
Finally someone put in words what’s needed to be said for a long time. Well done, Bill!
Bill is simply echoing what conservatives have been saying for years now
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I too am a history major. As a most of us are. Because our great and grands pass down knowledge. Songs and there meanings. Your history is just that, His-Story. There is no argument from me against that. The issue arises when you try to compare the kinds of slavery. I am a native. And slaves were and still are most common in the world. But not the sick form of slavery that the American Colonizers brought about. Small pox blankets. Slaves even in the scriptures were treated humanly and as human beings. with the option to be set free after a time. Not selling tickets for family gatherings and cookouts with their children to watch brutality, beatings, burnings and dismemberment. And fighting over body parts to take home and display on the mantel . Using black pre-toddlers binding them. And using their cries as alligator bait. (That is where the term comes from). Even to this day by the laws established in this land (NOT THE PAST) descendants of slaves are legally "by law " not considered %100 human. This is the current law. Which makes it STILL legal. No you (if you are a descendant of colonizers-forefathers, as I am under the laws against me given to my forefathers) do not get a pass to make yourselves seem as though you did nothing different. When the law is current. Mr. Maher bends the facts as your forefathers did in their own inimitable ways. Ther are nuances to this. And while you may think you have facts, our greats & grandparents tell us all. And we know truth. My great grands were chattel. And I knew them before they passed. And I tell my children all.
Africans did not sell their slaves. As Mr. Maher points out His-story is written by the victors. In the case of the trans Atlantic slave trade, and un-fought war. History?? Not! Current? Yes. US law clearly states that slaves and their offspring are not human. but mere animals.
@@mrjackson2067 it’s not a conservative or liberal view, it’s a common sense view.
I’m thankful for Bill. I don’t always agree with him but he’s genuine and has enough courage to stand up for things he believes in. I respect that.
It's only taken him a few decades, how brave of him.
Oh please his writers do it all
I like Bill too, and I don’t always agree with what he says or thinks....and thank goodness for that! How boring would things be if we all agreed all the time!?
Sorry, David, but Bill lost his courage a long time ago. I only listened to 40 seconds of this. I hope I don't need to explain why, and I hate it when people just criticize and offer nothing to back it up, but I'm tired of this. That's why I rarely listen to him anymore. Check out some old "Politically Incorrect" clips, and you might see what I mean.
@@sharonmassey2923 You don't like that he is now criticizing the left and its silly views on gender, race, wokeism? As a conservative, it's refreshing to see Bill call a spade a spade... oops, that's going to be taken as racist when it's not. It's just an expression and kinda what Bill is talking about.
Bill annihilated this! What an amazing comedic expression and Truth
Thank you Bill
I have always thought of myself as being pretty conservative and Bill Maher as being very liberal. Although I do not always agree with him, I find a lot of common sense in his presentations. Even in areas of disagreement, I find that he makes a lot of sense and causes me to rethink my own view. His presentations are witty, funny and thought provoking. I have become a big fan.
I'm with you 100%
Name ONE person, you always agree with.
I'll be waiting...
I think part of his appeal is the fact that he’s always given conservatives a platform to speak their minds, even when he strongly disagrees with them. Conversation is important and it is seldom practiced in today’s woke mindset.
Of course you have. That's the plan... he's switching teams in front of our very eyes... why... why would he do that if fascists aren't about to be the main power in this country? He's railing about puppies when he could be talking about Grizzlies... but hey, he's gotta cover his own ass and that tells us all we need to know about what's about to go down in the USA in 2024. FKFKFKFKFK.
I’m conservative too, but I like how Bill tries to be fair.
Best Bill Maher I’ve ever seen!
Who knew I would add Bill Maher to my list of people to watch. 😳 the world really is upside down. 😏😂😂. Love it. Keep it up - common sense with a side of humor 💪🏻
I think Bill Maher is my favorite social commentator, probably because I disagree with 30% of what he says, so I always know that he will challenge my thinking. At least he is honest about what he believes and why. That kind of honest dialogue is how we will all come to understand each other, instead of just hating the straw men that we have constructed. I hope Bill will dedicate an episode to how ridiculous the strawmen are that are built by the far left and the far right about their political opponents.
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Yea, I disagree with a lot of Bill's takes and opinions. That is a good thing, though. If you are listening to someone that you agree with 100%, chances are that you are either in a cult or your lying to yourself. Either way, not much there to learn if you already agree with them on everything.
Where was this attitude when Obama was in office lol
@@mdillinger2010 if you are listening to someone you agree with all the time you could just be very similar or the guy you listen to is just the lowest common denominator
@@mdillinger2010 and he will talk with people he disagrees with. It's important to listen to the other side. Maybe you'll change your mind, maybe they'll change their mind, however even if nobody changes their mind it improves understanding on both sides of the issue. And that can be a place to start for progressing the debate.
Bill, I could listen to these monologues all day long! Thank you!
Just put it on repeat.🙂
I've binged his monologues before. Especially on days when the world feels ultra crazy and I just want to feel some sense of normalcy...And I'm a Conservative! 😂
And thanks to the magic of UA-cam... you CAN. :)
I'm betting a thousand bucks you can't!
"Presentism"? That's good, but I have been calling it "era-shaming" for years. 😂
Finally, someone on "the other side" that actually thinks and speaks on it.. I have a new and growing respect for B.M.
Might have been Bill's best monologue
My son of 12 wrote this after listening to Bill:
"It's so good that Bill can rip the Left but go further. Get more balls and take on AOC's every lie or half-truth. “There’s no debate as to whether we should continue producing fossil fuels. There’s no debate,”. Just take her to task on occasion. Climate change is real but Leftist comments and predictions exaggerate and end up wrong most of the time. Rip the Left on the expensive Green New Deals they want; entertain the idea that we aren't ready to sink so much money into that now. Ask your guests why aren't more interested in a greener economy too. Discuss how the Left and their partners in the crime, the Media, are often wrong and despicable.
Next up to bat: If only Tucker Carlson would modify his views too. You don't need to make the Jan 6ers into victims of the Left though they were in some ways. Tucker should have Atheists on his show debating some bad Biblical views and letting your audience realize what wretched dogma is in the good books might help them say have less stupid ideas. What are you so afraid of? The truth is that there is no proof of good, and there is probably no moral god (ideas in the bible are just reflections of what the brain trust then thought were good ideas to keep order. It's mostly a fable. And why not support increasing taxes on the most wealthy? However, we don't want them to leave this country so don't come up with burdensome taxes that will do that. Not that the lobbyists would ever allow that.
I think Greg Gutfield and Bill had a UA-cam video that was a joy to watch. We need to see more movement toward the rational middle ground of so many issues so that I can stop hating both the Left and the Right. That's my selfish reason. Let's have a tv show every week where the Left and Right debate and moderate views are supported and the moderator is moderate."
I’m not a huge fan of Maher, but this was brilliant! Thanks, Bill, for speaking the truth
Please understand that the size of your fandom of Bill Maher is unrelated to his ability to speak truth with intelligence and humor.
Time to become a fan then
This was ok, but hugely boring, like everything he delivers.
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Michael Schroeder has more like than you do, so you lose
I generally don't like Talk Shows or their hosts, with the exception of Craig Ferguson. But I did laugh at the Joan bits, this script was done well enough.