Peavey 6505 MH Sneak Peek
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- Опубліковано 28 січ 2015
- Taking a quick look at the new 6505 MH from Peavey. Shot on the floor at NAMM 2015.
The 6505 MH should retail for $499. Seriously worth taking a look at if you have a small budget & want to get into tube amps!
They couldn't find one of the 38,000 metal guitarists at namm?
I think this guy did a pretty good job
You are right... with Keith Merrow, Ola Englund or even Fluff in NAMM.... the target of this head is Metal Players.... not old school rock dads...
I play old-school-ish punk rock....but with some sort of thrashy sounding rhythm for a lot of songs, and yet when I want to hear what a high-gain amp sounds like, I want a metal player to demo it. Essentially, if it can handle "chugging" with an EMG loaded 7 or 8 string, it will be more than tight enough to "machine-gun" on my passive-loaded, standard tuned 6 string. This guy did an ok job, I just wish that he didn't have to keep dive-bombing when his guitar was already out of tune to begin with.
Adam Rainstopper It's being marketed as the same as a 6505, but smaller. Is there really any speculation as to what it's going to sound like? The 6505 is one of the most used amps out there right now...
Kyle Thompson Well....it's so new that really only NAMM videos are up, which obviously doesn't tell you much about how it actually sounds. The dude kept saying they didn't take "shortcuts" with it, but it has 3 12ax7's and a pair of EL84's. If it was really "the same preamp section" as the others, it should have 5 preamp tubes. It has 2 plus the PI, which would mean either 4 or 5 stages in the gain circuit (5 if it uses only half of the third 12ax7 as a "cathodyne phase-inverter"). I know the regular 6505 has one tube for drive and recovery for the loop, and so the loop on this one might be solid state, and the reverb would also probably be solid state.....I would hope, because that would mean it uses all 4 or 5 stages just in the overdrive circuit, which could realistically do high-gain with no diode-clipping and no loss of clarity/punch/attack. That's the only thing I'd fear, that they used a couple diodes and/or a "discreet" solid state first gain stage to make it dirtier, but I doubt they'd be claiming it was "the same preamp" if they did that. As for being a 20 watt output using a pair of EL84's, that does not mean it won't do massive high-gain. They managed to do it with the HESU Little Bastard, Boogie did it with the (insert famous Mesa-Boogie amp here)-25 amps, particularly the Mark V-25, which I actually like better for recording than the real Mark V, regardless of whether or not I COULD record a 90 watt amp without my neighbors shooting out windows. I always wished there would be a low-wattage version of the 6505 series, and wished (and still wish) they would make a stand-alone preamp that is just the preamp section of a 6505 too, and I REEEEAAAALLLLLYYYY hope this thing impresses the hell out of me. Gotta play it first though. I'll hit GC and try it. If I like it, I'll tell them I don't like it....then I'll go home and order it from a smaller store or ebay seller.=)
This is exactly what I want. $500 for a bedroom/small club practical version of the 6505?! FUCK YES!!
Been wanting a valve head in this price range, and holy balls this is absolutely beast. I'm digging this.
Glenn, you're a fucking life saver man, can't wait for the studio review.
Looking forward to your review of this amp Glenn. Love your videos
This looks pretty brutal! I would love to hear full on mic demos soon.
God, I've wanted a smaller 6505 for ages, this is awesome!
I know this video is 2 years old now, but would still love to see you do a demo of this amp!
I replaced the first preamp tube with a 12au7, and it's quieter but it makes it easier to get a clean tone. I recommend you try it out. Preamp tubes are safe to test out, it's the power tubes that you need to be careful with.
Looking forward for the in-house review
Hi Glenn!
I would love a review on the 6505 piranha micro head.
Greetings from Sweden.
Would love to see a full review on this.
Note to amp makers, when demoing your amp ALWAYS make sure the player is way above average and in tune!
If you could make a double-blind 6505 vs micro 6505 (y'know, same cab and everything to eliminate the size and wattage issue) that would be so awsome...
I'll see what I can do
Its quite refreshing to hear a 5150 playing something that isn't quite so heavy, even though I love that stuff and its perfect for that application but its nice to hear it play something similar to what EVH designed it for.
My local GC has one used in near perfect condition for $384. It does sound pretty damn good, and quite loud too. It sounds roughly the same as this demo. Pretty cool.
This is really interesting. But I would like to hear YOU playing this in your studio telling the differences between this and the big brother, and also the differences between miked cabs and the cab sim output...
Would love to get one of these, I'm just unsure how loud it will be able to get. My drummer plays pretty loud and i need something that goes over really good.
could someone help me a bit?
Does the "muting the speaker" and using head phones translate to, you can basically play with only the peavey head?
what do the different hz settings do exactly in terms of sound?
Just bought one and a Peavey 4x12 valve king cab for it and I think it sounds great on clean and Lead tons with my hi bucket equipped guitar. 20 watt mode is stupid loud too.
Great content on your channel! I'm really digging it and finding myself learning something new everyday. Question though. As a guitarist, when should you use quad tracking? Should they be for big choruses or can you get away with having the whole song quad tracked. I'm just curious because while I want my guitars to have a big sound, I don't know if sometimes the riff gets lost in it. Thanks in advance and keep up the great work, sir!
Looking forward to a full review on this amp from you.
Hey! I wanna ask a question because this man didn't say anything about the topic i will ask.
There is a switch on the left. It says 220V/230V and 110V. Is it about the different electricity systems?
For example, in my country, all amps 220V and their and also different HZ rates. But its different in UK or USA. When we buy an amp from an european country or usa, we have to use that amp with an device which changes the V and HZ rates. In this amp, they solve this problem by adding that switch or it has a different feature?
Did you use a Samson Q7 in this video?
Did you check out the Randall EOD88, if so what did you think of it?
Hey there! I got rather comfused with those cabinet impendance thing. I've read a couple of things about it but got even more confused. Could you do a video about it? Somthing like "What a dummie must know about"? Thx!
So you don't need a load box to run this amp without speakers correct?
Hi I have a question regarding those mini heads (mini rectifier, ironball 20W, etc). I am in the process of shopping for my first tube head, and I am interested in the Ironball 20W. People are telling me that 20W is not big enough because of saturation, headroom, etc etc etc. But I just play in my basement with a friend, record my own stuff for demo, but I don't play gigs or anything like that (at least not in a near futur). So, are the mini heads really not that good in terms of tones? Should I really buy something bigger if I want a metal tone that sounds professional?
what's the ground lift button? (i assume it's ground, since it says grnd)
It sound good but my main question is Why did they not stick with a 6V6 since its in the 6l6 family of tubes That the big Peavey heads use besides the 6534+?
When will this be out to the public? and follow question, I have a power amp, could I somehow bypass this amps internal power amp and use my own? so I can essentially crank it to 100 watts for live playing?
Glenn, can't wait for the studio review. I think I want one to balance out my 150W and 100W heads.
Very cool little amp.
Amazing! Man if they only updated the bigger ones as well...But for sure this is going to be a buy form me. Well done peavey!
Love your content! I can buy either this or the 120w for the same price.
I live in a townhouse and record there as well.
Which should I choose?
Thx
It looks good, and has a lot of surprisingly features like the ampsimulating and headphone jack with miked amp I hope. Also that power switcher looks sweet.
I think it's time for those micro amplifiers. It is very valuably on the market these days. Like Orange Jim Root's signature amp for example.
I was wondering what your opinion on revalver 4 is...you can get a 6505 and cabinet for around $20 in it. I would love to get the 6505 mh but i dont mind using amp sims (especially at that price).
hey what kind of cab was he running? Looked like a 2x12, are they going to be making 2x12 extension cabs now?
is it me or hes outta tune??
He was having some issues due to the fluctuating humidity.
Yes out of tune. I can hear it a mile away. Can this dude buy some Stay In Fucking Tune strings?
***** good string brand name idea though
+Analyzingfunny solid name I'd buy, SIFT STRINGS, strings that stay in fucking tune
alvarg
They DO make them. They are called Stay in Tune Strings. They are pre stretched and frozen in nitrogen, and never go out of tune, IF there is nothing wrong with your guitar. Nice stuff.
Definitely gonna pick one of these up...or maybe the EVH 5150III... Choices
I know what my next purchase will be. Do we have a release date for the thing?
Great preview! By the way, since peavey seem to be completely moving their production to the far East, do you think, that it will equal to the overall decrease in their amps' quality and reliability? Or they'll be made of the same components, just wired by chinese people?
awesome! would anyone know when itll be available this year?
The song name in the background?
Darude - Sandstorm
SpectreSoundStudios what about a video comparison between this mini head and the real 6505 ? That would very interesting :)
Nice video mate. That amp sounds spectacular
Could you do a segment on plexi style amps?
Looks a lot like the Valve King Micro Head, which I own. Had I known this was coming out I probably would have waited, but oh well.
Was there a major volume jump when switching between the two modes on the rhythm channel?
Can't say for sure. It was noisy as hell on the show floor
Sweet, I've been really interested in this, is the headroom a problem? I've never been a fan of the power section saturation on low wattage amps and does it start breeaking up pretty easily?
Anyway looks pretty awesome for the home. Also since it has EL84's wouldn't it technically be closer to a 6534 mini (since it has EL34's)?
It most certainly would! You can hear the amp is pretty tight in the bass b'cause of the 84's The head makes for a sweet preamp
I'd love to see a 6505 with the chean channel from the classic series as well as a boost for some light grit. then the rhythm chanell of the 6505 and then the lead. all with seperate eq.
You can get a really decent clean bluesy type sound on the "crunch/rhythm" if you roll off slightly on your volume knob plus dial the pre gain down a bit and boost the mids and go pretty heavy on the presence. I've tried with my guitar with active pickups and you can still achieve a delightful blues type sound with just a slight bit of grit and that's how I do it with the clean tone now
Did you check out the Vypyr Pro thing too ? Have they said anything about releasing a Vypyr Pro Head ? Thanks for all your awesome videos by the way !!!
Michael Smith whom is the vypyr manager/demo guy posted on another forum & then peavey's own yesterday .... They look to be only offering it in a combo unit & it looks like they will FINALY be in retail beginning of may ... Weither the amp's still gonna be $499 msrp is to be seen/determinded.
***** Thanks for the info !
Kazuhiro Matsumura np ..... I know its a shame they cant pack the vypyr pro into a head like this .... cause they'd probly sell more of them at the lower cost. But they developed the pro to be a all in 1 solution combined with the at-200 guitar (which I hear has issue's) & the sampera pro pedal as Michael smith has proclaimed in a few video's.
can't wait to see reviews of this amp by objective reviewers, as the company rep will always say the good things, bypassing the maybe not so goodies. the VK20MH seemed to be solid so I hope the same for this.
I love micro heads. I own a orange Jim root terror, mini rectifier and a mk 5 25, I need one of these.
Love the Mix out and USB out - every guitar amp needs to have these built in now -
however 20 W sound? doesnt compare to the 100W 6505 head
Why are the EQ knobs all the way down? haha oh well
cute. want one!
Speaker free headphone output on a 6505... lolololol. Demographics and expectations sure have changed since I was a teen. Pretty impressive stuff. I already have a 6505 head, otherwise I'd be buying this unit without question.
Why couldn't he tune up before the demo??? Haha
Why EL84's all of a sudden and not the classic 6L6 tubes?
2 6l6 provides 50-60 watts, el84 has lower wattage
I thought it could be something like that, but as mentioned by someone else, won't the EL84 has a characteristic more similar to an EL34? Could be wrong!
I guess 4 of them would be hard to fit in?
I would say the price. This is just a guess but it would cost more to do four 6v6 if they wanted to hit the $499 price point
I own the jca22h which runs 2 el84 and sounds great. Mike Soldano designed the amp and he saw fit to run el84 also.
Sounds like it could be why. Anyway, from what I've been told the real characteristics of the 6L6 tubes doesn't shine through in a 5150/6505 due to the bias being locked on "cold" or whatever, that could be wrong thoug. As long as the pre-amp is the same it should sound very much the same as the 120w.
Cool head.
Your video quality is great. What camera and lens do you use to record with?
Thanks.
And can i swap those power tubes for EL34?
No.
Hey whatever happened to this week in metal with MetalSucks,the 1st one was awesome!
Cool a high gain bedroom amp.
That thing looks sweet as fuck. SpectreSoundStudios, based on your limited time with it thus far, do you think it has the headroom for a gigging musician in ~300 capacity venues? I imagine that ideally the cabinet would be miced up, but I am interested in how loud this thing can get in practice.
Additionally, as it has an internal load, is it possible to get the raw, unemulated line out sound during silent recording to use with digital impulses? That would be incredibly useful.
I'll be waiting for your full opinion on it, as I am looking to replace the Blackstar combo I have with something a little more purpose driven like this.
Have a good 'un!
I don't even play guitar, but I want one!
Still no word of this coming out in Europe? I really don't want to have to import it and a full sized 6505 is not an option. I NEED THIS AMP IN MY LIFE!
I'm getting one as a home amp
I MUST HAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
on my wish list haha
Holy fuck dudes! that is the most awesome piece of equipment I've seen! You should have asked for the price Glenn, but that's ok I'll just look it up.
We did say the price. $499.
Ugh, just been informed these won't hit the UK until at least the end of this year. Might just bite the bullet and buy a damn full sized 6505. Or a Kemper or something.
sonicwingnut For anyone who can't wait for this I just got a Laney Ironheart IRT Studio - very nice amp so far, £245 on ebay. Has all the features the 6505MH has and a bit more. Also is a 2u rackmount amp.
Really want to hear it through the power section of an actual 5150. Also: el84s..... ew....
i find tuning helps
Never got one for the studio huh? This video is 2 years old.
Shat my pants with the tone that this thing still retains from the bigger head. Fuck!
its a nice head but it would have been epic if they made a 50w version of the head
I'm guessing they have to promote all Peavey products but seriously, could they not have used a guitar from a different manufacturer? I want to hear a Jackson crank through this!
It's a shame that recording out for the usb doesn't have an option to turn off the speaker simulation so you can apply your own IRs to it. I suppose you can just go out of the send/return into a mixer to that end or get a load box, but it would be nice because those emulated speaker outs never sound great and have no flexibility.
However, I find this amp absolutely adorable. :3
That's one thing I wish these amp companies would figure out. We have the ability to use impulses or other means to get a good cabinet sim. Having a single option kills this feature for me, and probably, many others.
***** Whoaa, no, you really don't want to be doing that. The speaker output is WAY too high powered for a line input. You need a power attenuator between the two.
***** Yeah... no. This will blow up the output transformer because you're not putting a load on the amp, plus your signal will be way too loud.
I think what you mean is, you plug the Effects Send into the input of your interface...
licensedinkaos Yes, I hope that's what he means. But the problem with that is that you don't get the power amp stage colouring your tone, which can be important.
heresjonny666 Sure, but all impulses already have the power stage of the amp it was ran through included.
cool
Why would they get a fabled and prestigious metal amp like the 6505, and not play metal on it?
How about you show off a lawn mower you've built by showing us all how it cooks toast with the heat coming off it? Peavy's completely missed the point.
I have a feeling this is a case of them trying to be everything to everyone and cash in on people wanting something similar to a Blackstar HT-20 (basically a 2 channel amp with half the power and hopefully half the weight of a ~45 watt amp).
Unfortunately, it seems like the amp is filled with features for novices (like the colored direct output, useless for recording if it is anything but a clean direct out). You can't find a good video of how it sounds closed miced.
My guess is its going to fall short and be price discounted later just because they cut corners in the pre-amp.
My new years resolution is to never buy a tube amp again that has less than 4 12ax7s in it. This amp is just too late to the party.
Ahh, well said!
I have a Jim Root Terror head with 3 12ax7's in it :p.
Rimfeldt I want to note that he is playing in the style that the original 5150 was desgined for which is 80s hard rock and halen style metal, being el84 it probably isn't as tight as the big brothers and possibly isn't great at tight moderrn metal. Would be interesting to see proper reviews once its released. The coloured outputs are stupid same with mesas speaker emulatiopn that can't be turned off, people use IRs now so a proper clean line out is a great idea!
+Rimfeldt its more like they built a small powerful ride on mower and then went to the smallest patch of grass.
alvarg
Hahaha.
Ever thought about comparing 6505+ head and 6505+112? It would be really nice, i have seen some major shitstorms about it. I have 6505+112 myself, thats why i ask. Nah, i wont give you this one for tests :p
lol
Im fckn serious :// You could run the sound though same cab and check how different the sound is.
noodlesO7
I would LOVE for someone to do this and settle this for once and for all. Especially since I am thinking about getting a 6505+ 1x12, but would consider a used head instead if I could find one (most likely cant.). SO its a 6505+ 1x12 or a Bugera 6262 or nothin.
Converting 6505 combo into head is pretty common technique, since stock speaker in it is kinda bad. I wanna know how big the difference is. I will probably do this in the future, I think original head it is way too expensive for me. In USA its so easy to get nice equipment :< Yep, once and for all. Glenn would nail it.
Want... that is all.
Made in China. I'll keep my USA made 5150s. I love this concept though, I've always wanted a 5150 in a smaller package so maybe I'll haave a look at one once it's available in stores.
Good lord, the Peavey rep couldn’t tune his guitar? At NAMM?!?
Peavey 6505 mh is good for hitting the bass player over the head with XD perfect size to deal devastating blows
Am I on acid?
499 ... *-* As always we'll get screwed price-wise here in Europe, but I'm looking forward to this little beast coming overseas
499 ? £ or $ ?
It said $ on their homepage.
Steel!
Please, purty please do a review of a Bad Cat Hot Cat ;_;
ERMERGERD, ERTS ER MINI SERXTY FERV ER FERV!!!
But I want mine to go to 11
Sup dudes, just got back from 'Nam **goes into post-traumatic flashback** gurglurrglrgurglurglughghhh CHARLIE EVERYWHERE FUUUUUUU
Definitely not a demo of the running stability or intonation of the Peavey Guitars line lol
He was stuttering cause he knows who you are glen
Close your eyes, listen to his voice and tell me you don't hear Ricky Gervais.
How fucking unlucky am I? I bought a 6505+ 112 combo a month ago for the sole purpose of a cheaper 6505, and then this comes out. If it's not that expensive, I might sell my 112 and get this instead.
The mini is only 100 bucks cheaper, lacks a speaker, and doesn't have the original tone circuit. Basically, it's an imitation that no one knows how good it will be. So if you wanted the 6505 sound, you did fine imo.
They gotta stop having company reps demo these amps for us. Some Brit with a Peavey shirt isn’t a worthy candidate. Give us a legit metal guitarist. This is a METAL amp.
Why didnt they do 20w 10w 5w? Like 1w! really?
You never got one did you lol
Sounds cool, never have been a fan of the 5150 or 6505, always thought from what i heard from the big bands out there, that it always sounds like a compressed chainsaw, with a poor crunch, especially on the sheffields and even on Made in China V30 (don't like them so much), You gotta look up for what the brand did back in the day 40 to 20 years ago, Peavey Butcher and Triumph for a growly and crunchy sound with beautiful low meds, the Ultra 60 for a punchy crunch and fat sound, Peavey Bravo which has an amazing sound (works good on V30/T75 etc ..)
Interesting example of how to use ( waste ) tubes to get that authentic buzzy solid state sound . Much wiser and cheaper just to get the mighty M Zone pedal for 40 bucks .