To those that doubt it, the story of seasons 1 & 2 being offered back to the BBC in the late 90's is absolutely true and has been verified. The employee told the Nigerian station that "they were all out on video" and to destroy the material. Why? Sheer and total ineptitude. The more you read into missing episodes the more you understand what a total shambles of an organisation the BBC truly is. The really sad truth is this kind of thing has probably happened a bunch of times with BBC employees willfully destroying or refusing material. I believe this had continued well into the 80's & 90's. Just remember we care, these people don't. Their just doing a job and probably quite half assed too. There's the story of the employee in the 80's who deliberately ignored the instructions to save the material and continued to destroy returned prints for years. Just because he was an asshole. That's all it takes for these things to be lost forever. Just think if that BBC worldwide employee had just bothered to make a phone call or even attempt to do his job properly we could have been watching Marco Polo, The Reign of Terror & The Crusade back in 1998 and re-watching them for the dozenth time now. It's a travesty we've all been robbed of our cultural heritage thanks to such carelessness and stupidity.
Absolutely true? Verified? Verified by whom? I have seen this tale reported as fact by a few places online (including a forum post by Ian Levine), but they never seem to cite a primary source or any evidence to back up the story. I don't doubt that such a thing could have happened (as you mentioned, there definitely was an asshole BBC employee in the 80s who continued to junk returned prints for no reason), just that the event would be known to us if it did.
@@christiancrowell4698 Richard Molesworth who quite literally wrote the book on missing episodes confirmed it, he had viewed the paperwork himself. He or Paul Vanezis are the ones to query for further info on this matter.
True, but i reckon every business or company has always employed somebody or some ignorant persons who don't really give a crap and they let their total ignorance's of their own work place dictate to them what decisions they personally make and not what the BBC generally would've done naturally. But yeah, in a decade which saw; Shada being release onto VHS tape (with a video narration from Tom Baker himself) in 1992. Along with the newly rediscovered Tombs Of The Cybermen in 1991. its hard to imagine in 1993 they'd turn down Marco Polo or The Reign Of Terror once it was offered to them so soon afterwards!
Allegedly. There's no rock-hard proof that there was any missing material in the films offered back in the 90s or the Telesnaps in Cura's collection. But it's quite true that they were both rejected, and the possibility remains.
@@KieranHighman Exactly. There may not have been proof, but it's still possible. And in the case of the telesnaps, it's material they didn't have then, even if they have it now.
I once listened to the entire audio book, during a car trip. I also got: 'The Reign Of Terror,' audio book, back when I was a completionist, and thought I would aim to get all of them. How silly I was!
The fans that saved the recordings of these episodes are the real heroes of this disastrous event. We wouldn't know even a bit of those stories if it wasn't for those lads. Thank you for covering this, it's a nice piece of very detailed history :)
As I've just mentioned on another post, worse than that, the BBC were still routinely WIPING stuff well into the early 1990s, as much as they try to play it down! Shocking.
One takes place in China, and then France, and then Palestine The fact that all of it, is in a way, a historical event, that actually happen, makes me want to watch it so much, So I can't choose between these three. I just hope it will be found! :D
Having actually worked for the BBC and at TV Centre. I heard a story that the last episode of the tenth planet William Hartnell's regeneration scene was being used By the Blue Peter production team. The tape a 2 inch quad was in their production office in East tower, it was left there over night waiting to be returned to the BBC archive then at Windmill Road. The next morning tape had gone. This most likely in the 1980's. Josh you do a fantastic Job, such high quality both in production and contents. Australia and the Dr Who community should be proud of you.
The problem with videotape back then was just the cost of the media ($200 a cassette or more) and the cameras (thousands of dollars for BOTH camera recorders and set-top players). That's the reason it didn't take off until the early 1980s, really. They had to come up with more economical consumer formats. They had home players as early as 1963 but they were just too expensive and over the years more companies came and went with their own machines and tape formats. The economical standardization didn't come until VHS and Beta arrived. They had videotape in the 1950s and there are number of TV specials recorded in the late 1950s on videotape that still survive. They were eventually digitized or transferred to film like the surviving color clips of the 1960s Carson Tonight Show episodes were. The thing is what they had (videotape-wise) for the original Doctor Who was BETTER than what we got for VHS. Way-higher resolution, at least two times VHS quality. VHS is crap, guys. It wears out and the quality is at best inconsistent. I never liked the format that much, TBH. I grew up with it and besides the color issues (NTSC = "NEver The Same Color TWICE!") the audio recording was often bad in store-bought tapes. I don't know how many tapes I bought of movies and TV shows (had half the original Star Trek on VHS!) that had that horrible humming on them and it wasn't the play -- it was the stupid tape and poor processing of it! I never bought that much on VHS. I've watched a few Troughton serials on DVD and now the last storyarc Hartnell appeared in as the regular lead. What survived is in pretty good condition considering they viewed this as disposable entertainment! Ah, if they only knew--! The only way we'll get the missing episodes this point is if they DO more animated reconstructions with the surviving audio. I don't think they'll find much else. Maybe 3-4 more missing episodes on 16mm transfers but I think they've found pretty much all they ever will of what survived the great BBC tape wiping.
Yeah that's true about home video being so costly. There was a copy made of The Ice Warriors in the 1960s by a university lecturer who had access to the equipment. He made them so his sick son could watch them while he recuperated from whatever he had wrong with him. Then of course as he didn't own the tapes and they were needed for their proper purpose they were reused. Including the 2 still missing episodes.
As someone only just in 2019 trying to put together as complete a collection as possible i find this series of mini documentarys an invaluable source of information. Thank you for all your research and dedication to detail.
It's a toss-up for me as to what I'd like to see returned the most between "Marco Polo" and "The Crusade" - I'm satisfied with the animated reconstruction for "The Reign of Terror". If I had a choice between the two, however, I'd go with "Marco Polo", just so that Season One could say that it had only incomplete stories rather than one missing and one incomplete. Anyway, great video! I look forward to the next installment!
@@hungrydragonvsfrightendhob7799 save the rest of The Quartermass Experiment and for that matter save all of it as the once that exist (ep 1 and 2 of 6) are in low quality
I've spent almost two decades looking for missing episodes here in Australia . My research has made me aware that Marco polo episode 4 is rumoured to be in the hands of a private collector not far from me....... I'll let you know how I go 🤞🤞 I've had many dead ends over the years.... So don't get too excited lol
Very good video! I really enjoyed it. It really bugs me that we have so much missing. It not only is a great show, but it also is, arguably, part of television history. I would like to see Marco Polo come back considering that it is missing so many episodes.
Your videos just get better and better, Josh!:):):) I understand that further audio recordings have come to light that Mark Ayres is working on and apparently they are so good that they'll be the default for future releases. I adore Marco Polo. It's all about the journey even though the destination is great fun. All the TARDIS crew get good material (possibly Carol Ann Ford's best performance). I love the idea of covering Hartnell's holiday episode by saying that the Doctor was sulking as it feels so true to the character. Thanks to the tele snaps we can see how well Waris Hussein shot it (not that I was ever in any doubt of that!). It's got a lovely score by Tristram Cary (so different from his Daleks score).
I think Marco Polo would B the best choice, as it's totally gone, an animated reconstruction would B nice, but I refer U to my previous comment for my other thoughts.
I’m just surprised @ how the BBC kept saying “No!” whenever footage of lost episodes were offered! I guess in a way it’s cathartic how they now go through such hell trying to restore the episodes!
All of them, although, if I had to pick one, it would be 'The Crusade'; having seen the surviving two episodes - frankly, they look magnificent, I'd like to see it in it's entirety.
@@JoshSnares If you did start from scratch, it'd be even better. O know it takes time to do...... No pressure....! The Savages is one story I'd absolutely love to see returned. Who knows? One day maybe.
I've just found your channel and I've got to say, I'm thoroughly impressed. Very well done! I've started making Doctor Who content myself but nothing near as well made as this. I wish you well for the future!
I would like to be able to go back in time with a device that could record all these old Dr Who - and other shows - now believed missing, bring them back to now and get someone to colourise them and tweak them to make them look like they are recent recordings! No reconstruction from Tele-Snaps, no need to create animations using the audio footage - could even put surround sound on them - be almost as if broadcast television was in full colour and surround sound from the start - effectively making them future-proof - but viewers at home initially only had black and white sets with a single speaker in them!
Conspiracy Theory: most episodes of Marco Polo exist in the BBC archives but they are waiting to obtain the last couple of episodes to get the highest sales possible when released - possibly in the Blu-ray collection sets before the DVD release
Maybe it’s like that for every missing episode. Just imagine, we have all of “The Daleks Master Plan” and “The Abominable Snowmen” but the BBC is waiting for a few more episodes to be found to announce the news to the public
@@TheDigitalApple It would be strange but if they’re waiting for a certain episode from a story that’s complete now that they have found I could see that happening at one point
That could be true, not only is the anniversary of dr who starting in 2023 but that happened to the web of fear in 2013, Philip Morris tried to find the web of fear ep 3 so the bbc did not announce the recovery until 2013.
I always look at this situation and think why they haven't taken this opportunity to do a remake of all the arcs that have missing episodes, and use the actors from An Adventure in Time and Space (David Bradley, etc etc) because if some of these episodes are most likely never going to reappear, why not honor it and use the same old techniques but with the docudrama cast, would be a fun project to see in my opinion.
I just noticed an editing error (or something else). At 8:46, the map thing said that Episode 1 of The Crusade was recovered from New Zealand in 1998, but at 9:04, you said it was returned to the BBC in 1999.
I have always wanted to see the episodes of William Hartnell from the beginning on. Is it greedy to want every single episode that was ever created!? 😍
I'd love to see Marco Polo be returned, although failing that, an animated reconstruction in colour as well as black and white. The coloured photographs make it look so beautiful, and I'd love to be able to experience that
Marco Polo was a tremendous production and I daresay a historical achievement. I had the pleasure of seeing the color telesnap reconstruction, which was marvelous. Maybe someone will be able to do a 3D animation one of these days.
By the way, second comment, but I can't understand how the BBC had The Invasion Ep. 4 and then suddenly it's missing. I was looking at the list and the episodes for The Invasion listed '2, 3, *4* , 5, 6, 7, 8', and then the episode goes missing along with the already missing Ep. 1. It's just so confusing.
Hell no. At least the missing episodes still have audio, they could be recreated (mission to the unknown), animated etc, all that and have endless doctor who in the future.
Marco Polo was re-released on March 7 2019 in the newly re-released 'The Lost TV Episodes Collection 1' with new Dr Who logo. LOVE all your parts in this series!
We have just submitted 2 reel to reel tapes with complete audio for many 1960's episodes. These have proved to be the highest quality audio found. They may be used in any future endeavours to reconstruct missing episodes. Kaleidoscope are working with the tapes right now and any statement of theirs may be found on their Facebook page.
Wow! Excellent work Josh! If I didn't know it was a fan production I'd believe it was an official video created by the BBC! Very informative and probably the best fan video I've seen talking about the missing episodes. I very much look forward to Part 2 and all future parts of this series.
Sadly, the highest quality ones that are available on Dailymotion, but I'm fairly sure higher quality encodes exist out there. Wouldn't have a clue how to find them, myself! Thanks for watching :)
Very well made and very well done! And great timing what with the recent discovery of the higher quality audio recordings. As for which one, it'd have to be Marco Polo. Waris Hussein's second time directing deserves to be seen in full. And the set designs look pretty lavish, at least from what the promotional photos show. If nothing else, I'd like to see the sword fight between Marco and Tegana.
Excellent work, Josh, a very professional feel! As to which story I'd like to see returned, well, since I'm content with the imaginative reconstruction of The Reign of Terror in 2013, I'd have to go with either Marco Polo or The Crusade.
Hi josh... Yes, they are the "Randolph" tapes. They where in my possession for years until I recently passed them on to my son who then loaned them to kaleidoscope for investigation. They apparently informed him that they are the most complete with beginning and end soundtracks, with narrative and superb audio quality.
@@JoshSnares yes, who knew that these old reel to reel tapes would cause a stir. I'm glad I have them to Rob, I actually suggested that he put them on eBay to see if he could make a few quid!
At 01'59" you mention there were eight photos taken off air by a fan in Australia. One of these images (the single shot of Hartnell) has since been identified as coming from an episode of The Aztecs. Otherwise I'm seriously impressed by the production values of this. You've done a great job.
The fact Nigeria wanted to give all of season 1 AND 2 to the BBC and they turned it down, absolutely baffles me. I mean, if this had happened in the 60's, alright. But in the mid-90's!!??!
As per usual, amazing work. I think the only constructive criticism I have would be to discuss more not just how you can watch each lost episode but what you really think is best. Obviously that might just stretch your time far too much and take away from the more objective/documentary style of the videos. Either way, please keep this series up, amazing to see a fan put this much care into the wonderful 1960s years of who.
What an amazingly produced video!! This is such a well done documentary type series! I look forward to seeing your future parts! Very impressive dude 👍🏾
i would save Marco Polo 100% although i really loved The Reign of Terror my favourite period setting their are only 2 missing episodes and the animation i thought wasn't to bad, i also enjoyed The Crusade which we also have half the story of.
I have to be honest, I never much cared for most of the historical stories, I always preferred the science fiction ones. I would love all the Dalek and Cyberman stories to be found, and any with Wendy Padbury in them. Interesting video, thanks.
Was hoping you were going to explain what happend in said missing episodes. Where can I find that? Just went through the jarring gap after season 2 into three and I wanna know what happened =(
Quite honestly, I would love The Crusade to either be found or animated for a Blu-Ray release of Season 2. I would love at least one episode of Marco Polo found though. Great video, can't wait for the Mission to the Unknown backstory!
@@JoshSnares I'm surprised that the BBC hasn't done that yet. Especially with all the news about the Classic Series being on Blu-Ray, Season 2 should really be up there alongside Tom's first, last and Peter's first.
A scary idea was how foolishly things were managed by BBC, a relative worked there in the 90's. They were could borrow anything that was in the archive, no charge! It didn't matter what it was if it was there they could take it out. At a time when it became easy to copy It's odd it wasn't stoped sooner, but sadly it also made it easy to loose things. They could borrow clothes too- It just shows how little was understood about the value of what was made there. Most was sold of, as the building I went to was but it seems crazy now to realise what a waste of tax payers money it was. I do like your review of how to see these old episodes as I've seen most of what is available already. Especially as new Who hasn't the spark of the old, it been fun watching the old & seeing how each Doctor brought something new.
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This was really well done. The BBC could stick this on a DVD and it wouldn't be out of place.
Harry Robins thanks! I was aiming for DVD feature level 😂
Oh, you accomplished it! :)
I agree!!
Josh Snares You have certainly have. Even a lifelong Doctor Who fan I’ve found out things of long forgotten - and things I’ve never known till now.
@@JoshSnares Can I download the full version of this and put it on a DVD?
To those that doubt it, the story of seasons 1 & 2 being offered back to the BBC in the late 90's is absolutely true and has been verified. The employee told the Nigerian station that "they were all out on video" and to destroy the material. Why? Sheer and total ineptitude. The more you read into missing episodes the more you understand what a total shambles of an organisation the BBC truly is. The really sad truth is this kind of thing has probably happened a bunch of times with BBC employees willfully destroying or refusing material. I believe this had continued well into the 80's & 90's. Just remember we care, these people don't. Their just doing a job and probably quite half assed too. There's the story of the employee in the 80's who deliberately ignored the instructions to save the material and continued to destroy returned prints for years. Just because he was an asshole. That's all it takes for these things to be lost forever. Just think if that BBC worldwide employee had just bothered to make a phone call or even attempt to do his job properly we could have been watching Marco Polo, The Reign of Terror & The Crusade back in 1998 and re-watching them for the dozenth time now. It's a travesty we've all been robbed of our cultural heritage thanks to such carelessness and stupidity.
Absolutely true? Verified? Verified by whom? I have seen this tale reported as fact by a few places online (including a forum post by Ian Levine), but they never seem to cite a primary source or any evidence to back up the story. I don't doubt that such a thing could have happened (as you mentioned, there definitely was an asshole BBC employee in the 80s who continued to junk returned prints for no reason), just that the event would be known to us if it did.
@@christiancrowell4698 Richard Molesworth who quite literally wrote the book on missing episodes confirmed it, he had viewed the paperwork himself. He or Paul Vanezis are the ones to query for further info on this matter.
@@zuniverse3218 thanks for the reply. Damn now my day is ruined haha.
Your passion is admirable.
Someone in the BBC turning down Seasons 1 and 2 in the 90s was news to me- they should have known better by then!
Considering the BBC's attitude towards Doctor Who at the time, I'm not too shocked.
you'd think Tom Baker's tenure, bringing the franchise into supernova status, and the home video market, would've changed that. Apparently not!
Well, I don't believe it. The BBC were actively searching for missing episodes by then. They wouldn't have turned these down.
True, but i reckon every business or company has always employed somebody or some ignorant persons who don't really give a crap and they let their total ignorance's of their own work place dictate to them what decisions they personally make and not what the BBC generally would've done naturally. But yeah, in a decade which saw; Shada being release onto VHS tape (with a video narration from Tom Baker himself) in 1992. Along with the newly rediscovered Tombs Of The Cybermen in 1991. its hard to imagine in 1993 they'd turn down Marco Polo or The Reign Of Terror once it was offered to them so soon afterwards!
@@MGSBigBoss77 I think you're right. If they did turn them down it could very well have been someone who didn't care or didn't know.
The BBC messed up and rejected the return of Marco Polo in the 1990s? God damn it!
AND THE TELESNAPS TOO? WHY BBC, WHY!?!?
Allegedly. There's no rock-hard proof that there was any missing material in the films offered back in the 90s or the Telesnaps in Cura's collection. But it's quite true that they were both rejected, and the possibility remains.
@@KieranHighman Exactly. There may not have been proof, but it's still possible. And in the case of the telesnaps, it's material they didn't have then, even if they have it now.
wait The bbc knew that they would make a bunch of money they real don't have self presservation instincts
Of the three, I want to see Marco Polo returned the most.
I assume that has something to do with the fact that it's entirely missing... :)
carealoo744 pretty much, I also heard that the sets looked very nice and it’s hard to tell in the reconstruction.
I'd love to see that one, too. Most of the historical serials were very boring judging by the recons, but this one I really enjoyed.
I once listened to the entire audio book, during a car trip. I also got: 'The Reign Of Terror,' audio book, back when I was a completionist, and thought I would aim to get all of them. How silly I was!
I had the novelization. 😢
The fans that saved the recordings of these episodes are the real heroes of this disastrous event. We wouldn't know even a bit of those stories if it wasn't for those lads. Thank you for covering this, it's a nice piece of very detailed history :)
We are forever in their debt. I talk about two of the more prolific recorders next episode in more detail :)
Very professional video, nicely done. Never knew that the BBC turned down footage in the 90s, them doing this that late is excruciating.
As I've just mentioned on another post, worse than that, the BBC were still routinely WIPING stuff well into the early 1990s, as much as they try to play it down! Shocking.
One takes place in China, and then France, and then Palestine
The fact that all of it, is in a way, a historical event, that actually happen, makes me want to watch it so much,
So I can't choose between these three. I just hope it will be found! :D
Having actually worked for the BBC and at TV Centre. I heard a story that the last episode of the tenth planet William Hartnell's regeneration scene was being used By the Blue Peter production team. The tape a 2 inch quad was in their production office in East tower, it was left there over night waiting to be returned to the BBC archive then at Windmill Road. The next morning tape had gone. This most likely in the 1980's.
Josh you do a fantastic Job, such high quality both in production and contents. Australia and the Dr Who community should be proud of you.
This makes me wish VHS was invented earlier just for Who to still all be here
Me too!
The problem with videotape back then was just the cost of the media ($200 a cassette or more) and the cameras (thousands of dollars for BOTH camera recorders and set-top players). That's the reason it didn't take off until the early 1980s, really. They had to come up with more economical consumer formats. They had home players as early as 1963 but they were just too expensive and over the years more companies came and went with their own machines and tape formats. The economical standardization didn't come until VHS and Beta arrived.
They had videotape in the 1950s and there are number of TV specials recorded in the late 1950s on videotape that still survive. They were eventually digitized or transferred to film like the surviving color clips of the 1960s Carson Tonight Show episodes were.
The thing is what they had (videotape-wise) for the original Doctor Who was BETTER than what we got for VHS. Way-higher resolution, at least two times VHS quality. VHS is crap, guys. It wears out and the quality is at best inconsistent. I never liked the format that much, TBH. I grew up with it and besides the color issues (NTSC = "NEver The Same Color TWICE!") the audio recording was often bad in store-bought tapes. I don't know how many tapes I bought of movies and TV shows (had half the original Star Trek on VHS!) that had that horrible humming on them and it wasn't the play -- it was the stupid tape and poor processing of it! I never bought that much on VHS.
I've watched a few Troughton serials on DVD and now the last storyarc Hartnell appeared in as the regular lead. What survived is in pretty good condition considering they viewed this as disposable entertainment!
Ah, if they only knew--!
The only way we'll get the missing episodes this point is if they DO more animated reconstructions with the surviving audio. I don't think they'll find much else. Maybe 3-4 more missing episodes on 16mm transfers but I think they've found pretty much all they ever will of what survived the great BBC tape wiping.
Yeah that's true about home video being so costly. There was a copy made of The Ice Warriors in the 1960s by a university lecturer who had access to the equipment. He made them so his sick son could watch them while he recuperated from whatever he had wrong with him. Then of course as he didn't own the tapes and they were needed for their proper purpose they were reused. Including the 2 still missing episodes.
Mate, this has got to be one of the best UA-cam videos about the missing episodes of Doctor Who. I can't wait to see the other episodes.
Thank you!
As someone only just in 2019 trying to put together as complete a collection as possible i find this series of mini documentarys an invaluable source of information. Thank you for all your research and dedication to detail.
This is wonderful Josh, beautifully and concisely presented. I enjoyed every minute. I can’t wait for the next one. Thank you for making this!!
SeaDevilLagoon thank you! Happy you’re enjoying it 😀
I remember in year 4 I was doing a Explorer project and I did Marco Polo because I loved Doctor Who so much
It's a toss-up for me as to what I'd like to see returned the most between "Marco Polo" and "The Crusade" - I'm satisfied with the animated reconstruction for "The Reign of Terror". If I had a choice between the two, however, I'd go with "Marco Polo", just so that Season One could say that it had only incomplete stories rather than one missing and one incomplete.
Anyway, great video! I look forward to the next installment!
EchoWing I feel the same! I’m happy with animations myself
I’d rather have The Crusaders be returned because then that would make Season 2 the only B&W era season of DW to have no affected serials.
Can I go back and make sure the bbc make copies
Jack Stevenson if you could, that’d be great!
That's the first thing I'll do when I invent time travel. After that, I'll go back in time and save the lost silent films.
@@hungrydragonvsfrightendhob7799 save the rest of The Quartermass Experiment
and for that matter save all of it as the once that exist (ep 1 and 2 of 6) are in low quality
I’m so glad that season 2 mostly still exists, can you imagine if the dalek invasion of earth and the chase were missing! That would be a nightmare!
I don't even want to think about that!
Or watching black and white duplicates of Tom Baker episodes.
I've spent almost two decades looking for missing episodes here in Australia . My research has made me aware that Marco polo episode 4 is rumoured to be in the hands of a private collector not far from me....... I'll let you know how I go 🤞🤞
I've had many dead ends over the years.... So don't get too excited lol
The fact that we prob’ly found all we’re gonna find hurts. The fact that animation is resurrecting lost Who eases the hurt.
Very good video! I really enjoyed it. It really bugs me that we have so much missing. It not only is a great show, but it also is, arguably, part of television history. I would like to see Marco Polo come back considering that it is missing so many episodes.
Shard1 I feel the same about television history, it’s a sad loss
@@JoshSnares There's one serial in particular that I really want to see in its completion, "The Faceless Ones."
Wow, this was an impressive video. Wonderfully crafted and edited, this is professional level.
Gareth thank you!
Your videos just get better and better, Josh!:):):)
I understand that further audio recordings have come to light that Mark Ayres is working on and apparently they are so good that they'll be the default for future releases.
I adore Marco Polo. It's all about the journey even though the destination is great fun. All the TARDIS crew get good material (possibly Carol Ann Ford's best performance). I love the idea of covering Hartnell's holiday episode by saying that the Doctor was sulking as it feels so true to the character. Thanks to the tele snaps we can see how well Waris Hussein shot it (not that I was ever in any doubt of that!). It's got a lovely score by Tristram Cary (so different from his Daleks score).
Darren79 thank you! I’ll be talking about the recently discovered Randolph Tapes in Part 3!
This is absolute quality right here. Wonderfully done.
I think Marco Polo would B the best choice, as it's totally gone, an animated reconstruction would B nice, but I refer U to my previous comment for my other thoughts.
I’m just surprised @ how the BBC kept saying “No!” whenever footage of lost episodes were offered! I guess in a way it’s cathartic how they now go through such hell trying to restore the episodes!
All of them, although, if I had to pick one, it would be 'The Crusade'; having seen the surviving two episodes - frankly, they look magnificent, I'd like to see it in it's entirety.
Beautifully made and I love your work in general. I'm still waiting for your reconstruction of 'The Savages'.......... part one was superb!!!! Thanks.
The Jacal oof! That was a looooong time ago! If I ever did it, I think I’d have to start from scratch! 😂
@@JoshSnares If you did start from scratch, it'd be even better. O know it takes time to do...... No pressure....! The Savages is one story I'd absolutely love to see returned. Who knows? One day maybe.
I love this! It's very informative. It's rather frustrating that BBC turned them down.
I've just found your channel and I've got to say, I'm thoroughly impressed. Very well done! I've started making Doctor Who content myself but nothing near as well made as this. I wish you well for the future!
Just discovered your channel as a Doctor Who fan who wants as many of the missing episodes returned as possible. Instant subscribe.
I would like to be able to go back in time with a device that could record all these old Dr Who - and other shows - now believed missing, bring them back to now and get someone to colourise them and tweak them to make them look like they are recent recordings! No reconstruction from Tele-Snaps, no need to create animations using the audio footage - could even put surround sound on them - be almost as if broadcast television was in full colour and surround sound from the start - effectively making them future-proof - but viewers at home initially only had black and white sets with a single speaker in them!
Brilliant video mate. Your animation and visuals makes it worth watching. Well Done 👊🏻
Excellent video Josh!
Thank you, Steve!
Conspiracy Theory: most episodes of Marco Polo exist in the BBC archives but they are waiting to obtain the last couple of episodes to get the highest sales possible when released - possibly in the Blu-ray collection sets before the DVD release
Maybe it’s like that for every missing episode. Just imagine, we have all of “The Daleks Master Plan” and “The Abominable Snowmen” but the BBC is waiting for a few more episodes to be found to announce the news to the public
@@TheDigitalApple It would be strange but if they’re waiting for a certain episode from a story that’s complete now that they have found I could see that happening at one point
That could be true, not only is the anniversary of dr who starting in 2023 but that happened to the web of fear in 2013, Philip Morris tried to find the web of fear ep 3 so the bbc did not announce the recovery until 2013.
I always look at this situation and think why they haven't taken this opportunity to do a remake of all the arcs that have missing episodes, and use the actors from An Adventure in Time and Space (David Bradley, etc etc) because if some of these episodes are most likely never going to reappear, why not honor it and use the same old techniques but with the docudrama cast, would be a fun project to see in my opinion.
Derren Nesbitt is a family member of mine, and has some great stories about the production.
David Dumbell oh wow! Derren is a brilliant actor.
I just noticed an editing error (or something else). At 8:46, the map thing said that Episode 1 of The Crusade was recovered from New Zealand in 1998, but at 9:04, you said it was returned to the BBC in 1999.
Marco `polo needs ro return
Ya they need to animate it
I have always wanted to see the episodes of William Hartnell from the beginning on. Is it greedy to want every single episode that was ever created!? 😍
Great video, Josh! Looking forward to more :)
Lewis thank you!!
I'd love to see Marco Polo be returned, although failing that, an animated reconstruction in colour as well as black and white. The coloured photographs make it look so beautiful, and I'd love to be able to experience that
This is sooo good! I love this keep up the great work:)
Marco Polo of course. But would love to see the Crusade complete.
You ARE the best way to watch them (when possible). Your recons are the best I've ever seen. Totally seamless.
10:26
Either Marco Polo or The Crusade
Brilliant video. Well made, well explained. Thank you. :)
How wonderful it would have been to see Zienia Merton in Doctor Who. The Space: 1999 actress was in Marco Polo.
Wow! I was going to do a video like this, but you did it way better! I can't wait for the rest of the series! :D
Fantastic stuff. Cannot wait for the next part!
Thank you! I hope you enjoy the rest of the series :)
Marco Polo was a tremendous production and I daresay a historical achievement. I had the pleasure of seeing the color telesnap reconstruction, which was marvelous. Maybe someone will be able to do a 3D animation one of these days.
By the way, second comment, but I can't understand how the BBC had The Invasion Ep. 4 and then suddenly it's missing. I was looking at the list and the episodes for The Invasion listed '2, 3, *4* , 5, 6, 7, 8', and then the episode goes missing along with the already missing Ep. 1. It's just so confusing.
God, Marco Polo please come back to meeeee
This is amazingly well done. Your format, explanations, animations, and content are exceedingly well researched and presented. Thank you!
Brilliant video, well produced. Very impressive.
Would you push the button?
Every missing episode of the 60s are returned in perfect quality. But the show will be canceled after 1 or 2 final seasons.
Hell no. At least the missing episodes still have audio, they could be recreated (mission to the unknown), animated etc, all that and have endless doctor who in the future.
Marco Polo was re-released on March 7 2019 in the newly re-released 'The Lost TV Episodes Collection 1' with new Dr Who logo. LOVE all your parts in this series!
Released two months after I published this video 😂😂
Terrific work, you've a very calming tone of voice the way you deliver, perfect to watch with a cup off tea!
Good Documentary friend. Keep mining those Doctor Who gems.
Absolutely brillaint video can’t believe I’ve not found this channel as of now it’s brilliant
The sets from Marco Polo are IN-CREDIBLE. Which makes the whole thing even sadder.
metalmugen they are so good!!
You know, for an amateur production, this was decidedly professional. Well done, man.
This is some high quality stuff.
We have just submitted 2 reel to reel tapes with complete audio for many 1960's episodes. These have proved to be the highest quality audio found.
They may be used in any future endeavours to reconstruct missing episodes.
Kaleidoscope are working with the tapes right now and any statement of theirs may be found on their Facebook page.
proudtobeated are these the Randolph Tapes? I discuss them in Part 2 :)
I would honestly like to see “The Crusade” returned, if only so that Season 2 would have no missing episodes!
Wow! Excellent work Josh! If I didn't know it was a fan production I'd believe it was an official video created by the BBC! Very informative and probably the best fan video I've seen talking about the missing episodes. I very much look forward to Part 2 and all future parts of this series.
Thank you! Next episode out very soon!
Really well made! Can someone tell me where the best place to view the more recent Loose Canon recons is? Jut UA-cam & Dailymotion?
Sadly, the highest quality ones that are available on Dailymotion, but I'm fairly sure higher quality encodes exist out there. Wouldn't have a clue how to find them, myself! Thanks for watching :)
Would like to see the myth makers restored as the story was good.Also less problematic should we say then the others.
6:36 Not a civil war, an invasion! Reign of Terror Episodes 4 and 6 were destroyed during the Turkish Invasion of Cyprus in 1974 🇨🇾
This absolutely fantastic!
Where can I find the older versions recons of Reign and Crusade?
TigerMan1995 they’re hidden in the depths of Dailymotion, sorry I didn’t keep links!
This will be a good reference. Thirty three parts?, cool!
I'll be doing three serials an episode, so only a 9-part series! 33 might make everyone a bit tired haha!
Lovely production! thanks for putting the time into making these
Thank you for sharing this 💜
Very well made and very well done! And great timing what with the recent discovery of the higher quality audio recordings.
As for which one, it'd have to be Marco Polo. Waris Hussein's second time directing deserves to be seen in full. And the set designs look pretty lavish, at least from what the promotional photos show.
If nothing else, I'd like to see the sword fight between Marco and Tegana.
conanfan1412 great choice!
Excellent work, Josh, a very professional feel! As to which story I'd like to see returned, well, since I'm content with the imaginative reconstruction of The Reign of Terror in 2013, I'd have to go with either Marco Polo or The Crusade.
Hi josh...
Yes, they are the "Randolph" tapes.
They where in my possession for years until I recently passed them on to my son who then loaned them to kaleidoscope for investigation. They apparently informed him that they are the most complete with beginning and end soundtracks, with narrative and superb audio quality.
proudtobeated very exciting!
@@JoshSnares yes, who knew that these old reel to reel tapes would cause a stir.
I'm glad I have them to Rob, I actually suggested that he put them on eBay to see if he could make a few quid!
At 01'59" you mention there were eight photos taken off air by a fan in Australia. One of these images (the single shot of Hartnell) has since been identified as coming from an episode of The Aztecs. Otherwise I'm seriously impressed by the production values of this. You've done a great job.
Brad Phipps that’s interesting, didn’t know that :)
very good job Josh!
Holy Shit! This is amazing. Too good to exist.
The fact Nigeria wanted to give all of season 1 AND 2 to the BBC and they turned it down, absolutely baffles me. I mean, if this had happened in the 60's, alright. But in the mid-90's!!??!
Learned something new from your video...and I'm old... so thank you...🐴
Alan Brown happy you enjoyed it!
As per usual, amazing work. I think the only constructive criticism I have would be to discuss more not just how you can watch each lost episode but what you really think is best. Obviously that might just stretch your time far too much and take away from the more objective/documentary style of the videos. Either way, please keep this series up, amazing to see a fan put this much care into the wonderful 1960s years of who.
James Crosse yeah I like to keep it subjective! I generally prefer animations, but many don’t. I like it to be up to the viewer!
What an amazingly produced video!! This is such a well done documentary type series! I look forward to seeing your future parts! Very impressive dude 👍🏾
The Who Collection thank you!
I'd love to actually know how popular Doctor Who is in countries like Nigeria nowadays.
Really enjoyed this. Well done.
JPR Guy thank you!
i would save Marco Polo 100% although i really loved The Reign of Terror my favourite period setting their are only 2 missing episodes and the animation i thought wasn't to bad, i also enjoyed The Crusade which we also have half the story of.
I want marco polo to come back the most
I have to be honest, I never much cared for most of the historical stories, I always preferred the science fiction ones. I would love all the Dalek and Cyberman stories to be found, and any with Wendy Padbury in them.
Interesting video, thanks.
Was hoping you were going to explain what happend in said missing episodes. Where can I find that? Just went through the jarring gap after season 2 into three and I wanna know what happened =(
Quite honestly, I would love The Crusade to either be found or animated for a Blu-Ray release of Season 2. I would love at least one episode of Marco Polo found though. Great video, can't wait for the Mission to the Unknown backstory!
I really didn't want to make an account that’s a good point, it’d be nice to have a “complete” season for Hartnell!
@@JoshSnares I'm surprised that the BBC hasn't done that yet. Especially with all the news about the Classic Series being on Blu-Ray, Season 2 should really be up there alongside Tom's first, last and Peter's first.
Great video - very informative and put together in a really interesting way. Subscribed and looking forward to the next one - thanks!
camdenguy thank you!
"So, how can you experience "the crusade" today.....
Please no...
I would love to see all of these, but my number one choice would be both Marco Polo and The Reign of Terror.
A scary idea was how foolishly things were managed by BBC, a relative worked there in the 90's. They were could borrow anything that was in the archive, no charge! It didn't matter what it was if it was there they could take it out. At a time when it became easy to copy It's odd it wasn't stoped sooner, but sadly it also made it easy to loose things. They could borrow clothes too- It just shows how little was understood about the value of what was made there. Most was sold of, as the building I went to was but it seems crazy now to realise what a waste of tax payers money it was.
I do like your review of how to see these old episodes as I've seen most of what is available already. Especially as new Who hasn't the spark of the old, it been fun watching the old & seeing how each Doctor brought something new.
Just finished the edge of destruction and went to purchase Marco polo only to find it missing. Disappointed as I love this original tardis crew.
Tyranniod it’s always sad when an episode is missing 😩
Brilliant video documentary :)
OMG.... this is fantastic..... well done.
Damian Karras SJ thank you!
Marco Polo, obviously. :)
Very good! Very informative
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