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"Spica asking his two Korean teammates" HUH?? This is not the funny part... It makes sense to ask the korean guys that because they'd feel the same. What's funny is the fact he even had to ask that...
The laughter/screams from Huni, Spica, and Tactical was so funny. The DOTA pros were making great plays X v 1. Would love to see the roles reversed. DOTA2 is wild.
@@topiastuomisto depending on which hero you're playing, yes it's far more challenging, riven, Lee sin etc are just easy in comparison to meepo, lone druid etc.
This was tons of fun ! As a DOTA and a league player they aren’t t a pick one up you’ll be good at the other kinda games . There is a bunch of mechanics in both and just the variety is insane
@@cosminenache124 Yurp mechanic could carry you far with league + the scaling. All the fancy popoff penta montage etc. Dota is more like chess, all the nitty gritty stuff really adds up since everything is "slower" it weighs more. To each its own, both a great game!
@@cosminenache124dude, pick some hero like legion commander, blink + ult is like faster than any league skill. Udk what ure talking about, even reflex time in dota is harder
@@cosminenache124 @noyce. Dota is not a slow game and if you go watch the pro games they are actually fighting almost all game. In League they just AFK farm.
@@kurapika75 the thing is every game evolves so when you stopped playing a certain game and focus on the other ones even if you have experience you will still get owned by the player who is playing that game consistently.
I like how they ask the question "Is dota harder than league?" And you can immediately tell the answer because they decided it would only be worth watching dota players attempt league not the other way around 😂 SHOW US THE LEAGUE TEAM FLOUNDERING AT DOTA
Yeah! I mean I've been looking for this comment. He used to be the best adc in south east Asia back then so now I'm so confused if he's just pretending not to know league or he became that extremely bad
He was also consistently ranking Top 1 on TW, SG, and Korean servers at some point. Ranking top 1 in Korea was his condition for being allowed to play in one of his Taiwanese teams.
@@geraldmanzon3715 He's still very good, chal caliber, but he's up against 3 challengers. Also he wasn't that serious, he was jungling without smite at some point then shuffling lanes, if you lose 1-3 mins of farm against master up players you're basically fcked.
As someone who has played both games and knows the 8 players this was so much fun, Spica being rude, Tactical just going psycho laugh, Huni being Huni, Dubu being 3000 IQ as usual, Timado having no idea whats going on... also, Dota is waaaaay harder than LOL, but that doesnt make it better, both games are good and bad at their own
It's not really harder but just more complex. It's like Call of Duty and Battlefield -> One is smaller, balanced, competative and fast paste while the other is more chaotic, bigger/longer, cheesy and more fun
people always cal dota harder, that isnt inherently true. complexity isnt difficulty, that is something people so often misunderstand. part of the difficulty with dota is just the osbscene number of niche mechanics and weird things you need to memorise. dota has so many more niche mechanics. it has hard counters, the wierd flying horse thing, lane shop and creep blocking/counter csing. it isnt fair to call league easier.
@@TheMagicianOfGaming its easier though im not saying league is easy but dota 2 way harder and dota 1 was harder than dota 2..... but its a different game who really cares u enjoy what u enjoy
Since most of these dota players never played it before, I would like a rematch after they got 1-2 weeks to train against a full team, so we can get a good comparison in each lane, would be interesting to see how far can the gap of dota pros to league ones, and ofc also do the reverse to dota
dota is definetely harder to learn, the map is huge there's way more things to keep track of and the items and abilities are overloaded as hell. I play league more but i've definetely found myself enjoying dota a lot more lately
Ist harder to learn, but one game isnt more difficult than the other. Theyre both PvP games where no one has reached skill ceiling or solved the game. Comparing difficulty im such games makes no sense. Is Go more difficult than chess? No. As with League and dota, it always depends on your enemy.
@@789blablajaja7 no, it's actually more difficult. And i mean to master it. You have to spend twice your time in league to even start understanding dota 2 on an average level. The always winning argument is "try invoker" for new players and then tell me how you feel.
@@alexvitov You can not tell me 'no Its actually more difficult', and then immediately say you mean to 'master' it. What does it mean to master a game? Objectively? (Hint: Its always subjective where on the scale you put the 'master' label.) And how do you then compare the 'master' position of two different games, with two different scales? And then, even if you would define that properly, and come to the conclusion that one is more difficult to master, then it STILL makes no sense to answer to my comment with "no, actually" and then just take the goalpost and move it from 'difficulty' to 'difficulty to master'. All in all, your comment really doesnt make any sense.
@@789blablajaja7 basically dota is more harder. 1st: macro moves, you will spend a lot more time crossing map in LoL and Dota, while you can easily move from Top to Mid like for 6-7 seconds in LoL, and in dota its about 9-10 seconds, for that time your teammate can be easily killed. 2nd. More items, like there is way more items in dota then LoL, and much more effects, 1 or 2 items on your support (5 or 4 pos) can turn the battle into opponent's or yours side. 3rd. There is no heroes that can ANNIHILATE you in seconds, so you have to be carefully, 1 wrong skill and opponent's already ran away, or his teammates will save him (of course there is nukes, but characters using it, will be probably banned). 4rd. Meta... In LoL in basically changes every 4-5 patches, while in dota its always changes. 5th. Heroes/Characters system, let me show you - LoL: here, have few characters, you will understand them after 2-3 matches) If you want more, you need to buy them, just play few matches more) Dota: here is list of infinity info, you will basically understand it after 50-60 hours of game play, but i dont care... Also it may change after this month... Maybe... 6th. Team play, let me show again. LoL players (basically in discord knowing each other): yo, faster stun them! Where are you?! Bruh, do you even know how to play? End of the match: ok guys sorry (maybe after few days of the match 🌚) but that was a cool game) Dota 2 (in game voice chat): WHAT THE HELL YOUR JUST BUYED?! I DID YOUR MO... guys what is the easiest character to pick? -Invoker. WHERE ARE LITTLE PIECE OF (pos 4-5) SUPPORT!?!? YOU WAS HELPING WITH MID??? WHAT ABOUT ME???! (Now everybody in team dont want to play)... So there is some reasons why dota is harder then LoL, lol
@@plazma272uwu6 Some of these are not even increased complexity, none of them make the game actually more difficult. Increased travel time is a decision making factor, neither easier or more difficult. Champs who oneshot you dont make the game easier or more difficult either, you have to adapt to that circumstance in both cases. Meta changes are arguably increasing complexity THE LONGER the meta stays the same. Because you need to study the meta to keep up. Think chess for example. More items and effects means more complexity, not more difficult. Its still a PvP game. No unsolved PvP game is ever easier than any other.
League of Legends is more intense on playing the individual champions, therefore the players have higher muscular memory. Dota is more focused on items and strategy, therefore the players are excellent at macro games and planning ahead. Edit: oh yes, forgot about creep blocking, creep stacking, deny, trees, terrain, etc. Although all of these are macro and game knowledge.
I think overall the challenge of dota is that every second you're trying to do multiple things at once. For example the brain can get pretty stressed in mid where you have to lasthit, deny, harass, keep track of rune timings, stack at 55, peek at sidelanes for potential kills, keep map awareness and keep track of enemy items and skill builds.
@@ChihiroNobunaga Azir, Nidalee, or Lee Sin. Nidalee can transform from ranged to melee form (which change all of your basic abilities), you have to be expert in landing skillshots as well as knowing when to all-in, how to place traps, etc. everything in one champion. Azir is incredibly difficult, you have sand soldier which you have to command directly to do auto attack or they will just stand still, plus you have to master all of his combos and he's a tempo based champion which means one small step matters. Even a lot of pro players can't get Azir right. Lee Sin is a pretty popular tempo based champion. Broodmother is not that intense, you just press Q and get spiders so you can get even more spiders. Elise from League is more intense version of Broodmother, because other than spawning spiders, you have to transform into two versions like Nidalee. On the other hand, I think Earth Spirit from Dota is also intense. Not the 'control many units' type intense, but the League type mechanically intense.
Everyone knows that. But remember that chess has also very basic rules. What makes these games difficult is not getting good at the game, but getting better than your opponent.
lol try to be simplier, easier than dota2 but being simplier or easier doesn't really make game easier or simplier in competitive or pro level, both are difficult in different ways (in pro play only, for stupid player dota2 always harder).
Chawy became a pro player on both mobas. He played for zenith in TI1 and they had a good run spot then he switched to LOL with and had a decent career.
As someone who has played league for 8 years and recently started playing Dota it's really interesting to see how they bring stuff from dota into league, namely the constant roaming and teamwork, as well as some pretty good cc stacking. League (esp soloq) often feels like a single lane carry that has out microd his laner and his team groups with him wheres in dota there is a lot more early game coordination, but less intensive micro in laning phase (fewer skillshots, less items to use, trades being less punishing due to sustain options in each lane) .
Jokes aside, Dota is a lot harder than league and anyone denying that have never played Dota. Im not saying being harder makes it a better game but Dota just has much more mechanics and complexity in its gameplay up to a point where you'll learn any other Moba game faster than others if you've gotten decently good at Dota.
Because dota too complex, its really makes me bored with any other similar game. Just like this vid, when i cant block creep, feels like i cant expand my skill and my brain to the max..
@@abelincoln1866 It's really fun to watch, if you understand. Weird plans and builts are what make Dota becomes Dota. League is more like samurai cutting. Simpler rules, relies more on personal raw reflex, fights are decided in the blink of an eye due to higher damage output. I mean they both are very exiciting to watch in their own way.
It's not really comparable. League focuses more on mechanical skill while dota revolves around your decision making and game knowledge. You can excel at dota without being mechanically gifted obviously it will help if you were but it isnt a hard pre requisite like league that revolves around skill shot. Maybe it was more comparablein the early days of league where it was marketed as dota's successor aswell as an easier version of the original. they're not comparable anymore
Really Great Content When Division 1 Tour 2 end I wish TSM can make some show match like Dota 2 team vs LoL team in Both Dota 2 and LoL But this time each team get proper train to get familiar with each game mechanic, meta and some experience in for like 1 or 2 weeks first before the matches
Very good fun and in good spirits. Just sad that only two summoner spells were allowed, because I think they'd enable more Dota strategies to work with. Flash as a Blink Dagger and TP as a TP Scroll replacement, maybe Smite as a farming tool for the ADC if he had a bad lane and retreated to the jungle like in Dota.
@@illucomet3108 TP used mostly for ganks, otherwise just Recall. Maybe some lane cutting with Smite on sieges or how they are called, Flash maybe more as an escape tool than initiation.
If there were more than 2 summoner spells Spica could take smite and do jungle and mid at the same time, he could Solo end the game in 15 mins if he took Yi or something
@@rieandcanatuan3754 he played it for like a year. Those aren't unranked. Go to his League of Legends Playlist. League became his main game for like a year and he streamed it for a year. His LOL playlists are all Ranked Flex. He made it to Gold, but on his solo he went Plat.
its cool to see that the dota players were so good at coordinating X v 1 scenarios, while the league players were obviously better mechanically Now we need 5 league players vs 3 dota players
I don't think it's viable because in dota, even though the levels impact a lot, the numbers always matter more. I think having less players in league is actually more viable than in dota. But, i'll admit, it'd be fun.
@@orcaninjagoesrambo6746 Any time any day, and it's not about dota being harder, or pro being more skilled in one game or another. It's about the way heros are wayyyy more unbalanced in dota, which leads to the dota pro abusing picks and easily fucking everyone at 1v5. You can keep crying tho, btw i love to play dota and league. Edit: in fact, the dota pro could win 1v5 without even dying.
Its not. Its PvP with unreachable skill ceiling. Difficulty always depends on your enemy. But dota is for sure more unforgiving for new players with a higher skill floor.
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“Is it racist if I say the Korean guy?” Spica asking his two Korean teammates🤣
He wants validation from both of them 🤣
He need a backup 😂😂
"Spica asking his two Korean teammates"
HUH?? This is not the funny part... It makes sense to ask the korean guys that because they'd feel the same.
What's funny is the fact he even had to ask that...
@@herdiansyahdody why
@@johncross4642 it is bc it makes no sense either way
Dubu actually shot calling for his team in a game he doesn't play, fucking hilarious lmao
Dubu is a gigachad afterall
If you call screaming "we go in" to the exact CD on your ult shot-calling sure lol
@@CreamyMayo11 ...Yes, yes it is? Coordinating initation makes sense yea
also 'i have ult'', 'split'!, 'can I go, give me sign'
@@CreamyMayo11 i mean, yes, that is what it is
@@beyhanf5754 Dubu dota?
Soo..we need 3 Dota vs 5 LCS now 😌
yes, 100%
just take bounty ez game
stomp them with meepo
5 Dota vs 5 Lcs playing ML 😂
3 will win easily since they can get more exp and more money
Bryle blocking the creeps was really funny, dota instincts HAHA
Mid more than anything lmao
I am playing lol for more than 4 years, and still sometimes automatically try to do so
Exactly what I did when I first started playing lol, it gave the minion a bit discomfort but nothing else
Damnit I still do this often when I want to stack the minions
It kinda works and the first 3 may just target one minion
trying to deny minions xd
I like how Dubu is all shy and quiet in the intro and when the game started he became GIGACHAD
Tactical shriek-laughing = actual best part of the video 🤣
Demon army General vibes
Fr bro shit's making me cry laughing
tactical can be ziggs' VA
I need an ear transplant after this video
The laughter/screams from Huni, Spica, and Tactical was so funny. The DOTA pros were making great plays X v 1. Would love to see the roles reversed. DOTA2 is wild.
I've seen the reverse, Dota2 is a more mechanical and macro advanced game, so the lol pros got lost, confused and obliterated
If roles reversed. League players doesn't have a chance.
@@peachparee7647 can you link me to that game
@@peachparee7647 more mechanical? XDDDDD
@@topiastuomisto depending on which hero you're playing, yes it's far more challenging, riven, Lee sin etc are just easy in comparison to meepo, lone druid etc.
This was tons of fun ! As a DOTA and a league player they aren’t t a pick one up you’ll be good at the other kinda games . There is a bunch of mechanics in both and just the variety is insane
In L.O.L. need more mechanics, reflex etc. Dota it s slow.
@@cosminenache124 Yurp mechanic could carry you far with league + the scaling. All the fancy popoff penta montage etc.
Dota is more like chess, all the nitty gritty stuff really adds up since everything is "slower" it weighs more.
To each its own, both a great game!
@@cosminenache124 dota slow tf, many items in dota have dashes
@@cosminenache124dude, pick some hero like legion commander, blink + ult is like faster than any league skill. Udk what ure talking about, even reflex time in dota is harder
@@cosminenache124
@noyce.
Dota is not a slow game and if you go watch the pro games they are actually fighting almost all game. In League they just AFK farm.
I wanna see the League players playing Dota 2!
Likely won't be close even 2 v 5 unless the league players have some dota experience
@@krpp 2 vs 5 the LoL players will probably win if they have some dota 2 experience and know dota 2 mechanics
@@kurapika75 the thing is every game evolves so when you stopped playing a certain game and focus on the other ones even if you have experience you will still get owned by the player who is playing that game consistently.
they just cant, thats why they play LoL.
@@krpp Yeah there is many mechanics like deny, block and etc. that is make easy to win vs no experience players
Now do 3 Dota pros vs 5 lol pros in Dota2.
yas
2 and a half, the items are gonna painful for them, and also all the miniscule things in the game.
This
Even 2 Dota pros vs 5 LOL pros.. theyre not gonna win lmao
@@Plumbumismyname They'd be below on level because of pulling and stacks
It makes me happy to see Tactical happy and laughing. Dude needs to be saved from the elo hell he's in. I wish him all the best!
This legit looked like tactical with 1 intermediate bot and 1 beginner bot vs 5 bots
Good content, you guys have the balls to pit two communities that become way too salty against each other.
Nah league fans are just delsuional they say their 1 kill per game farming simulator is better than a fast paced fighting game of dota
@@KidTrigger Kid go back to small channel, why are you still baiting after mo nths? get a life dude
@@Sora-tk1tv I have no small channel so how do I get back to a small channel?
@@KidTrigger People wants different thing in life. Why bothered?
@@KidTrigger 🥴
give more Moonmeander content, he was a content god back in the HoN days
I like how they ask the question "Is dota harder than league?" And you can immediately tell the answer because they decided it would only be worth watching dota players attempt league not the other way around 😂 SHOW US THE LEAGUE TEAM FLOUNDERING AT DOTA
Dota is just boring lol
Watching a whole video of huni trying to figure out courier and characters turning like oil tankers
Nah, it's just that if this was a dota video, no one would see it.
@@TheScantraaxx Dota is boring? If dota is boring then people would be sleeping during LOL then. Lmao
Dota ain't boring. When you type LoL in dota, the heroes laugh. When you type dota in LoL, the champs remain silent.
I just remembered that Dota has a mechanic called turn rate lmao I got so confused on why the Ashe dude wasn't kiting that much
Dota2 have bat (base attack time), turn rate, hero's vision, fire shoot faster or slow, etc more than lol
Well there’s few heroes with no turnrate actually most do have turnrate
@@KidTrigger io only
@@slarkfishy4683 and pangolin too right?
@@KidTrigger no
This was hilarious
Dubu a true gaming god
Chawy is actually an ex-SGS player. He's a really good ADC player back in those days.
Yeah! I mean I've been looking for this comment. He used to be the best adc in south east Asia back then so now I'm so confused if he's just pretending not to know league or he became that extremely bad
He was also consistently ranking Top 1 on TW, SG, and Korean servers at some point. Ranking top 1 in Korea was his condition for being allowed to play in one of his Taiwanese teams.
@@geraldmanzon3715 He's still very good, chal caliber, but he's up against 3 challengers. Also he wasn't that serious, he was jungling without smite at some point then shuffling lanes, if you lose 1-3 mins of farm against master up players you're basically fcked.
He was insane dude his skill amazed ASEAN audiences
that was so much closer than I expected once I realized that like none of the dota players had actually played league before this game lol
We might need 5LCS vs 5Dota in a smite game.
that's a damn good concept here
Smite imo, is the most fun to play moba. Would be interesting seeing them try to aim their auto attacks lol.@@PrimarchRoboleonFrenchyman
True lmao😂
The Dota players actually put up a fight also making combos.
Dota players are famous for perma CC of course
@@jqa16JesusSaves
Theres only two ways to fght in dota 2
Either you getbursted in .5 sec
Or you get perma ccd for 6 mins
Theres nothing in between
Hahah one Dota player is a pro lol player in the past
@@charlesleverant7368 who?
@@pogilangmabaitpa782 gaben
As someone who has played both games and knows the 8 players this was so much fun, Spica being rude, Tactical just going psycho laugh, Huni being Huni, Dubu being 3000 IQ as usual, Timado having no idea whats going on... also, Dota is waaaaay harder than LOL, but that doesnt make it better, both games are good and bad at their own
It's not really harder but just more complex. It's like Call of Duty and Battlefield -> One is smaller, balanced, competative and fast paste while the other is more chaotic, bigger/longer, cheesy and more fun
people always cal dota harder, that isnt inherently true.
complexity isnt difficulty, that is something people so often misunderstand. part of the difficulty with dota is just the osbscene number of niche mechanics and weird things you need to memorise. dota has so many more niche mechanics. it has hard counters, the wierd flying horse thing, lane shop and creep blocking/counter csing. it isnt fair to call league easier.
DOTA sandbox is way better than league. That alone makes it better than league braindead meta and playstyle, imo.
@@TheMagicianOfGaming its easier though
im not saying league is easy but dota 2 way harder and dota 1 was harder than dota 2..... but its a different game who really cares u enjoy what u enjoy
As someone who plays both games I would love to see the reverse as well
Since most of these dota players never played it before, I would like a rematch after they got 1-2 weeks to train against a full team, so we can get a good comparison in each lane, would be interesting to see how far can the gap of dota pros to league ones, and ofc also do the reverse to dota
Why, they could spend those 1-2 weeks for the game they play and practice more
The gap really didn't show here since it's obvious that the league players didn't really try to win the game and instead played for content.
@xarhs6514 fr, they would all pick an early champ or something and fold the game in 17mind
If it were to reverse League pros would get obliterated fast. Dota2 is too complex it's not newbie friendly.
dota is definetely harder to learn, the map is huge there's way more things to keep track of and the items and abilities are overloaded as hell. I play league more but i've definetely found myself enjoying dota a lot more lately
Ist harder to learn, but one game isnt more difficult than the other.
Theyre both PvP games where no one has reached skill ceiling or solved the game.
Comparing difficulty im such games makes no sense. Is Go more difficult than chess? No. As with League and dota, it always depends on your enemy.
@@789blablajaja7 no, it's actually more difficult. And i mean to master it. You have to spend twice your time in league to even start understanding dota 2 on an average level. The always winning argument is "try invoker" for new players and then tell me how you feel.
@@alexvitov You can not tell me 'no Its actually more difficult', and then immediately say you mean to 'master' it.
What does it mean to master a game? Objectively? (Hint: Its always subjective where on the scale you put the 'master' label.)
And how do you then compare the 'master' position of two different games, with two different scales?
And then, even if you would define that properly, and come to the conclusion that one is more difficult to master, then it STILL makes no sense to answer to my comment with "no, actually" and then just take the goalpost and move it from 'difficulty' to 'difficulty to master'.
All in all, your comment really doesnt make any sense.
@@789blablajaja7 basically dota is more harder. 1st: macro moves, you will spend a lot more time crossing map in LoL and Dota, while you can easily move from Top to Mid like for 6-7 seconds in LoL, and in dota its about 9-10 seconds, for that time your teammate can be easily killed. 2nd. More items, like there is way more items in dota then LoL, and much more effects, 1 or 2 items on your support (5 or 4 pos) can turn the battle into opponent's or yours side. 3rd. There is no heroes that can ANNIHILATE you in seconds, so you have to be carefully, 1 wrong skill and opponent's already ran away, or his teammates will save him (of course there is nukes, but characters using it, will be probably banned). 4rd. Meta... In LoL in basically changes every 4-5 patches, while in dota its always changes. 5th. Heroes/Characters system, let me show you - LoL: here, have few characters, you will understand them after 2-3 matches) If you want more, you need to buy them, just play few matches more)
Dota: here is list of infinity info, you will basically understand it after 50-60 hours of game play, but i dont care... Also it may change after this month... Maybe... 6th. Team play, let me show again.
LoL players (basically in discord knowing each other): yo, faster stun them! Where are you?! Bruh, do you even know how to play? End of the match: ok guys sorry (maybe after few days of the match 🌚) but that was a cool game)
Dota 2 (in game voice chat): WHAT THE HELL YOUR JUST BUYED?! I DID YOUR MO... guys what is the easiest character to pick? -Invoker. WHERE ARE LITTLE PIECE OF (pos 4-5) SUPPORT!?!? YOU WAS HELPING WITH MID??? WHAT ABOUT ME???! (Now everybody in team dont want to play)...
So there is some reasons why dota is harder then LoL, lol
@@plazma272uwu6 Some of these are not even increased complexity, none of them make the game actually more difficult.
Increased travel time is a decision making factor, neither easier or more difficult.
Champs who oneshot you dont make the game easier or more difficult either, you have to adapt to that circumstance in both cases.
Meta changes are arguably increasing complexity THE LONGER the meta stays the same. Because you need to study the meta to keep up. Think chess for example.
More items and effects means more complexity, not more difficult.
Its still a PvP game. No unsolved PvP game is ever easier than any other.
I loved the three LoL dudes, they really fun, Huni is such a character, nice vid! Lets 5 lols vs 3 dots 😈
Please have the reverse of this as well so you can one shot them with TA
1v5 BB should be funny
@@kristiandy2386 getting bashed 24 hours by spirit breaker is not bad either lmao
@@kristiandy2386 LMAO bb would actually be hilarious 😂
Introduce tinker to them.
@@kristiandy2386 they wouldnt know how to counter it. lmao
3:46 this is the LCS Coach...
last place makes more sense now.
7:57 Thats the same exact sound I make EVERYTIME I get randomly sniped by an Ez ult LMAO
Who edited this video?? The camera moves between the different players so fast that its hard to tell what is even going on and it was so short.
Not to even mention the audio cutting of at random points.
Glad I'm not the only one, interesting concept.. But borderline unwatchable because of editing
Editing of this video is super scuffed. one of the worse videos i've seen from tsm.
Probably Marvel studios
a guy with autism edited this
League of Legends is more intense on playing the individual champions, therefore the players have higher muscular memory.
Dota is more focused on items and strategy, therefore the players are excellent at macro games and planning ahead.
Edit: oh yes, forgot about creep blocking, creep stacking, deny, trees, terrain, etc. Although all of these are macro and game knowledge.
Lol, a preschooler can play league with their eyes closed. While in Dota, they're going to rage quit in the first three minutes 😛
I think overall the challenge of dota is that every second you're trying to do multiple things at once. For example the brain can get pretty stressed in mid where you have to lasthit, deny, harass, keep track of rune timings, stack at 55, peek at sidelanes for potential kills, keep map awareness and keep track of enemy items and skill builds.
What champions could be more intense than broodmother/meepo/invoker?
@@ChihiroNobunaga Azir, Nidalee, or Lee Sin. Nidalee can transform from ranged to melee form (which change all of your basic abilities), you have to be expert in landing skillshots as well as knowing when to all-in, how to place traps, etc. everything in one champion. Azir is incredibly difficult, you have sand soldier which you have to command directly to do auto attack or they will just stand still, plus you have to master all of his combos and he's a tempo based champion which means one small step matters. Even a lot of pro players can't get Azir right. Lee Sin is a pretty popular tempo based champion.
Broodmother is not that intense, you just press Q and get spiders so you can get even more spiders. Elise from League is more intense version of Broodmother, because other than spawning spiders, you have to transform into two versions like Nidalee.
On the other hand, I think Earth Spirit from Dota is also intense. Not the 'control many units' type intense, but the League type mechanically intense.
@@mypersonalaccount4934 u play dota??, Because all champion u said sound boring to me
As someone whos plays both games Dota is for sure harder to master, the skill ceiling is leagues higher than LOL
Everyone knows that. But remember that chess has also very basic rules. What makes these games difficult is not getting good at the game, but getting better than your opponent.
@@Shinobia543 nah its like boxing and mma
@@Shinobia543 lol u are probably a lol player...dota and lol are like mma and wwe
@@Shinobia543 that analogy works for league alone but not for comparing the two games
lol try to be simplier, easier than dota2 but being simplier or easier doesn't really make game easier or simplier in competitive or pro level, both are difficult in different ways (in pro play only, for stupid player dota2 always harder).
People forgot that Chawy went to TI
Chawy became a pro player on both mobas. He played for zenith in TI1 and they had a good run spot then he switched to LOL with and had a decent career.
I play dota and league and I can relate to Moonmeander so much LOL. The camera angle is harder than the game and I was constantly one shotted xD
As someone who has played league for 8 years and recently started playing Dota it's really interesting to see how they bring stuff from dota into league, namely the constant roaming and teamwork, as well as some pretty good cc stacking. League (esp soloq) often feels like a single lane carry that has out microd his laner and his team groups with him wheres in dota there is a lot more early game coordination, but less intensive micro in laning phase (fewer skillshots, less items to use, trades being less punishing due to sustain options in each lane)
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I gotta say the blue and red borders of the screen are really helpful
Jokes aside, Dota is a lot harder than league and anyone denying that have never played Dota. Im not saying being harder makes it a better game but Dota just has much more mechanics and complexity in its gameplay up to a point where you'll learn any other Moba game faster than others if you've gotten decently good at Dota.
Because dota too complex, its really makes me bored with any other similar game. Just like this vid, when i cant block creep, feels like i cant expand my skill and my brain to the max..
Too many tools and options sometimes scared people out, but also provide unexpected possibilities.
@@sokipper2007 and that brings out cool champions, like navi, og or team spirit
@@abelincoln1866 It's really fun to watch, if you understand. Weird plans and builts are what make Dota becomes Dota. League is more like samurai cutting. Simpler rules, relies more on personal raw reflex, fights are decided in the blink of an eye due to higher damage output. I mean they both are very exiciting to watch in their own way.
It's not really comparable.
League focuses more on mechanical skill while dota revolves around your decision making and game knowledge.
You can excel at dota without being mechanically gifted obviously it will help if you were but it isnt a hard pre requisite like league that revolves around skill shot.
Maybe it was more comparablein the early days of league where it was marketed as dota's successor aswell as an easier version of the original.
they're not comparable anymore
We as dota players enjoyed these kind of contents alot
the 3 man mid at min3 was such a dota play
I need MORE of this format! It's so fun. You can create new rules or smth just do more of this
This sure was fun to watch :D - Also Hunis evil laugh when he killed them while being fed 😂
You know something is wrong when the one being abused the most is the LOL team Coach 🤣🤣🤣
I like how Dudu start sounding like "Samir, you are breaking the car, Samir!" guy in teamfights
mi papi timado god, mas joven que nunca
I see Huni is taking on Lost's role in these versus videos lol
Bryce trying to block creep😂🤣
This just hurts to watch. whoever edited this, good job. I can hardly tell whats going on and the audio keeps going like wth
1:03 huni is stepping back at the very beginning lamo
1:50 spica's heart rate is bumping
1:55 Korean guy moment 1
8:20 "can we smoke"
lmao
Really Great Content
When Division 1 Tour 2 end I wish TSM can make some show match like Dota 2 team vs LoL team in Both Dota 2 and LoL
But this time each team get proper train to get familiar with each game mechanic, meta and some experience in for like 1 or 2 weeks first before the matches
League pros 20 mins in "oh no, they're learning."
Tactical's laugh is too contagious XD
Won the same amount of games in 1 vid as they did i half a split
"this guy knows how to play he's korean"
faker smiling at the distance
what time
Can the editor chill for a sec. Was it edited for ipad kids with 0.3s attention span while they play subway surfer or smth??
Unfotunately yes
The crossover we never saw coming
Why is the editing so chaotic? I cannot keep track of what is happening.
now 3 dota pros vs 5 league of legends pros in dota2
Imagine BB Chasing them inside the fountain 1v5?
What i want to see is dota2 prosvs hon pros playing lol
"he is korean, he knows" JKAJAJAJA
Give them a week they would beat our lcs team
More like a day
is the lol team that bad? I only knew about the dota team
Cap
Tactical sitting there thinking "Do something guys" lmao
Why does the editing in this video feel so scuffed? A lot of cuts feel poorly timed, audio is poorly synced, just feels like a very low quality edit.
I love that dubu played pos 4 on malph🤣 in standard league games the mountains seems to always be everywhere
JUSTO EL CONTENIDO QUE TENGO ESPERANDO 14 AÑOS!!
>Is it racist to say the Korean guy
"No, it's accurate. You *should* be afraid."
-the Korean guy
it wont be much fun(nier) to watch the reversal of this vid , like all we'll see is the struggle , even on the turn rate alone!
This ep is Sooo funny!
we need 3 herald vs 5 league pro players series
Very good fun and in good spirits. Just sad that only two summoner spells were allowed, because I think they'd enable more Dota strategies to work with. Flash as a Blink Dagger and TP as a TP Scroll replacement, maybe Smite as a farming tool for the ADC if he had a bad lane and retreated to the jungle like in Dota.
I'm not sure bro, the cooldown difference is too big. Also it wouldn't make the result different at all.
@@illucomet3108 TP used mostly for ganks, otherwise just Recall. Maybe some lane cutting with Smite on sieges or how they are called, Flash maybe more as an escape tool than initiation.
If there were more than 2 summoner spells Spica could take smite and do jungle and mid at the same time, he could Solo end the game in 15 mins if he took Yi or something
everyone: kind of taking it seriously
tactical: hysterically laughing every kill
Here’s your friendly reminder to go outside and talk to women + touch grass
I played Dota for nearly 5 years before starting league, and I'm not gonna lie, I can't stop not instinctually creep blocking ☠️
Absolutely hilarious content...more of this please
i now wanna see the 3 dota pros vs the 5 lol pro on dota
The video should be renamed to 4 DOTA Pros with 1 Agent vs 3 League Pros. XD Agent Chawy reporting for duty.
Yeah he knows how to play league bro why is he trolling ?
WE NEED MORE OF THIS CONTENT RIGHT NOW
Good content. Since t1 also hv dota2 team, i wanna see they do this too
These guys are having fun !
I'm smiling too
dubu with the ingame leader vives shotcalling and carrying his team with malphite support made my day
league looks like a flash game from 2003 KEKW
Imagine having SingSing, he would be able to carry Dubu's team
shoot arrow hit 0.5s stun
Sing is actually decent on LOL. He made it to plat LOL
@@daghetto101 lmao i thought he only played unranked but plat? wth hahaha
@@rieandcanatuan3754 he played it for like a year. Those aren't unranked. Go to his League of Legends Playlist. League became his main game for like a year and he streamed it for a year.
His LOL playlists are all Ranked Flex. He made it to Gold, but on his solo he went Plat.
@@daghetto101 oh yea i remember he played it with Kapitan an Gorgc also
"Can we Smoke...?" 😂😆😁
its cool to see that the dota players were so good at coordinating X v 1 scenarios, while the league players were obviously better mechanically
Now we need 5 league players vs 3 dota players
I don't think it's viable because in dota, even though the levels impact a lot, the numbers always matter more. I think having less players in league is actually more viable than in dota. But, i'll admit, it'd be fun.
@@patriciofloresdifilipo3713 Bristleback , Earth shaker, Phantom Assasin? Haha goodluck to 5 players
@C U Next Tuesday there's a lot more to mechanics than "aim"
League is far more mechanics-focused than dota, so that makes sense.
Not surprised by Dubu's skills being transferrable, carries his team as pos 5 in top level games. Well done by TSM on all sides.
Dubu chad in dota 2 still a chad in league of legends
DUBU IS SO GOOD MANN FUCKING HELL HIS POS5 TRANSLATE TO LEAGUE MECHANICS LIKE REALLY WELL
Dubao carrying as usual
The trash talks before the game is so classic 👌
Yikes RIP Chawy
if only valve and riot would create content like this every year. Both game would never die
Hard considering Riot actively tried to kill Dota at the time.
Dota but not Dota2
league vs dota in dota 5v3
also DUBU GOD
Now battle 3 dota pros vs 5 league pros
damn tsm won a game finally lets go
huni's constant screaming was actually the highlight of this, i have not laughed this hard coz of league in a very long time haha
Moonmeander the SIDE STEP GOD
THEN YOU DROP THE G'S
"No joke taken 38 mins to beat us". BASED BRYLE
Now do 1 Dota pro against 5 League pro, at Dota :D
Dota is harder yea.a 3 v 5 wont be as close as this. But 1 v 5?. Stop being a child and grow up
@@orcaninjagoesrambo6746 Any time any day, and it's not about dota being harder, or pro being more skilled in one game or another. It's about the way heros are wayyyy more unbalanced in dota, which leads to the dota pro abusing picks and easily fucking everyone at 1v5.
You can keep crying tho, btw i love to play dota and league.
Edit: in fact, the dota pro could win 1v5 without even dying.
@@mu0nt893 lmao. Ooohh dota players are so skilled and league players suck. Dota pros get dominated 3v5 in league.
@@orcaninjagoesrambo6746 Fair enough, you win this argument.
on god was feeling shit and then tactical laugh when he kills is just funny man thanks TSM
Played both games and Dota 2 is hands down much more difficult
Its not. Its PvP with unreachable skill ceiling. Difficulty always depends on your enemy.
But dota is for sure more unforgiving for new players with a higher skill floor.
Tactical laugh made me rolling 😂