PSA: Gen 1 does not have experience share. All it has is experience all, a nearly useless item that requires you catch 50 Pokemon before you can get it Having it in your inventory spreads your experience across your whole team, something I don't want to do because we had 2 dead weight Pokemon on the team Experience share would have been worth it for sure because I could keep Rapidash's level up. Experience all would spread the experience 4 ways, including giving half the experience to teammates we never had any reason to use Basically, if I used experience all then this challenge would have taken an entire week longer with no benefit
@@cobragunner1239 Brandon was super busy with his work for the last month. We just got time to record 2 episodes on Friday, and I was way too busy editing the Pokemon Challenges to get that edited yet The next 2 episodes will probably be out this week. If you check out the end of these videos, I usually try to give updates on that stuff
@@MahDryBread You should do what Blaine does and create a team and move lock yourself and only use roar for the first 5 turns of combat against gym leaders and rivals. Any team you want but the team has to collectively use roar 5 times before throwing out a good move. If you think it is to easy or to hard change up the number of roars
Here's a challenge that could be funny! You can use ANY Pokemons at any levels, but they can only use frustration at its minimum power (basically attacking with a 1 power move)
As funny as that would be to watch and commentate, rolling a 4-sided dice every turn would make it *WAY* too slow, even if it was restricted to important battles.
3:16 so that's why Blaine uses roar, He's expecting you to use bide! 7:08 he thought you were Blaine and thought you were going to use a super potion 12:40 it's not his fault, he thought he was looking at a mirror but was confused by you not doing stupid stuff, so he did extra to make up for it I'm having way too much fun with this
13:56 - Clarification for the comments: There *IS* an EXP Share in Gen 1, it's just the worst. No held items in Gen 1 meant no way to focus who gets XP, so it's divided among all Pokemon in the party equally. That's *DIVIDED,* as in, when you have the item while using a full team all mons only get 1/6th the XP of the fainted opposing Pokemon. Thus making it 3 times less efficient than just switch training, especially since some Pokemon using HMs might need to be present.
Slight correction: Exp All gives 50% to the participating pokemon and 50% divided among the remaining pokemon. (Assuming you only use one pokemon per KO, and none of your pokemon are fainted, because Exp All is a Gen 1 mechanic and therefore incredibly bugged.)
The most irritating part is how long the text takes, as it tells you how much _every_ Pokémon gets _every_ time you faint anything, so in a full team it becomes utterly obnoxious. That reason alone is why I never used it after my first playthrough with it as a kid.
@@paulnewton2284 Yes to the legendaries & Dragonite but I think is on par with Cloyster & Gyarados in Gen 1 but Gen 3 and later passes Cloyster & Gyarados.
Run idea: can only use moves that hurt the user, so Explode, self destruct, double edge, take down, struggle, curse if you're playing gen 2 onwards... With no items in battle, that ought to lead to some stressful fights
Need to update the title, "Can I beat Pokemon Red with an Arcanine with a bad move set?" Which of course you can. It's Arcanine. If you'd kept Blaine's levels (which admittedly wasn't part of the rules), this would have been a more interesting run.
I don't mean to be rude but it's hard to differentiate this from an Arcanine solo run since none of the other team members got any chance to be used. Without using the Rapidash for anything it just seems like a 'with only X Pokemon' run only that Pokemon has much higher base stats than normal and you can switch out if you need to.
13:55 - There is an EXP Share in Gen 1, however it's only obtainable from one of Professor Oak's Aides by Fuchsia City if you have data of at least 50 pokémon in your pokédex - meaning you have to have owned 50 different species. In Gen 1, the EXP Share is an "EXP All". It works by splitting the experience in half and then sharing it. One half is shared between all the pokémon that took part in that battle, and the other half is shared between your entire party.
I came here to say this. I remember the Exp All being incredibly bad though, fighting gym leaders only gave each Pokémon less than 200 exp per defeated mon so it's only decent when you're training only one other in your party as an entire party splits the exp 6 ways ;^;
Tbh these "team" runs have gotten pretty annoying since they almost always turn into a pseudo solo run, with occasionally grinding other Pokémon to the minimum to get certain moves. Rapidash should've been used so much more, especially with how broken Gen 1 Fire Spin is
And stomp. Yes Arcanine could have still been a main damage dealer but Rapidash could have worked to soften up the enemy or simply to have another battle ready one to use when arcanine faints.
@@skeetermania3202 I mean MBT relies on unreliable stuff happening all the time. Flinches, crits, missing, etc. he'll replay fights the same way over and over again until he gets one of those to happen. Fire Spin Rapidash would've been the same
Kinda wished you started with ponyta since you encounter wild growlithes much earlier. This feels more like a growlithe solo run plus late pointless ponyta at the end
Kinda. Rapidash could have had some use with firespin and stomp Or at least worked to soften up the enemy some more. But well there is also production time that needs to be accounted for.
@@joenavy6859 I get that, but the rest of the team was ignored and not used. The point of a team challenge should be to use the team not the best pokemon on that team.
Alternate title: "Can I Beat Pokemon Red with only Blaine's Arcanine?". Imo, you should have started with a Ponyta for more challenge. Growlithe was the easy way out.
I get that you did it this way because of time and ease, but I feel that if you're going to do a run with multiple pokemon, you should use multiple pokemon. Don't get me wrong, I did enjoy the video, but this felt more like a solo challenge then a team run. You still make my favourite pokemon content, and I'm looking forward to the next challenge. Now I'm off to binge some mystery dungeon, I've fallen a bit behind
I feel like you shouldnt power level one mon and focus on that in these runs. There should be a rule that all mons need to be within say 5 levels of each other. Otherwise its just a single mon run, but easier cause you have other pokemon as fodder.
@@iceneko9170That's not how binding moves work in Gen 1. In Gen 1, you cannot set them up to do passive damage. If the move hits, your target is immobilised and you are semi-immobilised, only able to continue the attack for 1-4 more turns, not using any additional PP. Its power being equal to, and its accuracy being worse than Wrap make it far more of a crapshoot.
At this point, every time you go through the Gen 1 Elite Four, my mind starts singing: "We don't talk about Bruno~" followed by "It Was Agatha All Along~"
Long time lurker, first time commenter. I think a run where you can only use Pokemon whose names only start with M, D, or B could be interesting. If their names change after evolution you gotta throw 'em out! Keep up the good content my man 💪
2:33 Growlithe most likely has that learn speed because Arcanine was originally supposed to be a legendary in Gen 1 but that was changed near the end of production.
Neat video but it's less a only Blaine's team and more of a Can I Beat Pokemon Red with ONLY Blaine's... Arcanine lol. I know it's the only one that doesn't suck but rapidash could have done some work with firespin if leveled, hell maybe even growlithe could have badge boosted a bit and surprised you.
It seems bad that challenges like this pretty much devolve into a solo run with the best pokemon getting seriously overleveled and the rest of the team being far to low in level to contribute. I'd like to see not only the matching pokemon and move sets, but maintaining the same level difference between them as the original trainer.
On our way through, I took the helix fossil. I knew if I didn’t say what I took you’d all ask. Actually now that I think about it everyone ask anyway. Comments are good for the UA-cam algorithm.
On our way through, I took the helix fossil. I knew if I didn't say what I took you'd all ask. Actually now that I think about it everyone ask anyway. Comments are good for the UA-cam algorithm.
Wish Rapidash got more use. Abusing fast fire spin can dominate tough match ups, but given your schedule I get that stalling tactics like this could've strained the video's production.
You coulda used rapidash with fire spin because in gen 1 fire spin prevents the target from attacking until it wears off as well as every other binding move. In other words, fire spin is actually insanely broken
Gen 1 DOES have an Experience Share. You get it from an Aide for getting enough pokemon, and it sits in your bag distributing the Exp to everyone, like in later generations at the end of the fight. Looking at Bulbapedia, it's the Route 15 Aide in a Gate, as a reward for catching 50 Pokemon. And is apparently called EXP.ALL instead of EXP.SHARE. ...of course, it's also bugged, so you lose EXP if you switch pokemon, but it does still exist.
The problem with the EXP ALL is that it cuts the EXP earned by the participating EXP in half, and then splits the other half of the EXP to the rest of the team. This means that in a full team, an individual Pokemon that doesn't participate gets 8.33% of the EXP of the fight, so it's very slow in general. It's not really like later generations at all, where the participating Pokemon get 100% of the EXP from the fight and others get 50%. And if you have HM users in your party (like most of these runs do), a good amount of EXP is "wasted" on them. Add on the aforementioned issue with switching Pokemon and it's just not very helpful.
This challenge with Blaine's Yellow team would've been easy, like those movesets are actually decent and it's three fully-evolved Pokémon rather than two fully-evolved ones and their prevos xD Also I checked the FR and LG team and guess what: in that game the Growlithe has the same moveset as Arcanine and Ponyta has the same moveset as Rapidash!
I feel like you could have utilized Rapidash on Lance to trivialize the fight with Fire Spin if it were a higher level since it's a fairly fast pokemon.
Rival 4 is super easy because you know to do Rocket Hideout first. Rival 4’s levels are set so that when a new player comes out of Rock Tunnel and sees Lavender Town, they have a good fight against Rival 4, since it’s fair to assume a new player will go to the Pokemon Tower since it’s such a unique building.
At 9:15 I just wanted to point out that Growlithe does learn another level up move at level 50, that being Flamethrower. Also, it learns Agility at level 39
I get that it takes a bit longer to grind, but the lvl difference within the team just feels like an intentional handicap in most videos. Rapidash with Fire Spin is busted, albeit a slow burn, in Gen 1. plus, even if Ponyta and Growlithe aren't as good as their evos, they'd still be residual damage adding up. Love the vids and the challenge ideas, but gdm...the lvl difference leading to "this fight was tough" really feels forced xD
Agility with growlithe for some batch boost. Stomp for flinches and well fire spin. At least getting Rapidash up as second damage dealer could have eased some things.
Growlithe probably levels slowly because it was being considered as legendary in development. Like in the pokedex, and in the anime being paired with the legendary birds
Would be cool if you could use like a move randomiser that chooses randomly between your attacking moves and using a super potion. Could be a nice follow up run one day? Almost like metronoming haha
Haven't seen any other comments about this, but the audio seems higher quality this episode and it is appreciated. Aside from that, keep up the great work and thank you for the content!
Seems kinda pointless to do a team challenge like this if you are simply gonna pump everything into a single pokemon. Yeah, the Ponyta and Growlithe were useless, but you could have done something with the Rapidash at least. It has okay Attack and Speed, so with Stomp it could have gotten some flinches for free kills on those pokemon that you had to waste Arcanine's health on Take Downs.
So....."Can I beat Pokemon Red with a team of only Arcanine?" essentially. Can't blame you, Arcanine is arguably the best fire type in the game and one of the strongest Pokemon all around in Gen 1. I'm actually surprised you didn't end up using Rapidash more. Between its high speed and Stomp combining for a deadly crit machine and Fire Spin in Gen I having the potential to basically lock and bleed your opponents to fainting (though I will admit that tactic can be tedious and unreliable), Rapidash has the ability to be an absolute beast when properly leveled. Still, one of the biggest things that works against it is that you get it so late in the game when you generally have an already established team and are running out of trainers to fight. This didn't go how I expected it to, but your vids are always a treat to watch and I look forward to them! P.S. EXP Share does exist in Gen 1. It's called 'EXP All' and you get it from Professor Oak's aide in that building between Fuschia and Route 15 if I remember right. You have to have Pokedex data for at least 50 Pokemon (which doesn't do you any good in your challenges) to get it, though.
Between Blaine and Blue both having roar on their Arcanine, I wonder if Gamefreak intended for it to work in combat and it was just Gen 1 spaghetti code that messed that up.
I apologize in advance for the length of this. There is an Exp. All in gen 1. It is the first iteration of modern shared exp. It was abandoned for the Exp. Share in gen 2. You can get the Exp. All from one of oak's aides in the gate east of Fushia (Koga's city) by having 50 pokemon registered in your Pokedex. This would ofcourse only be usable in multiple-pokemon runs. You could honestly just use a cheat to fill your dex, it would in no way impact the difficulty of the run except giving you access to flash, but you could always opt to enable the cheat when first arriving to Fushia. It works a bit differently than the later iterasions though. It splits your exp gained in two equal halves, the first part gets divided equally between all pokemon that participated in battle. The second half gets divided equally between all pokemon in your party. Yes that means participating pokemon gets exp from both halves. I'll do an example with your team. Let's say you didn't switch this battle. You gained 3600 exp. This gets divided in 2 equal halves of 1800 each. Arcanine gets one of those, and the other half is divided by four (your amount of team mates) into 450 × 4. This means Ponyta, Rapidash and Growlithe all get 450 exp each, while Arcanine gets 2250 exp (1800 + 450). This would have allowed you to still overlevel RK9 while keeping your team mates more useful when needed. I'm almost certain this gives your whole team full stat experience, but I'm unsure. The biggest downside to this would be all the text boxes popping up, but hey, that's what autofire buttons are for. I absolutely love your content so far MDB, I really hope you'll consider a Misty run in the future. Would be a great chance to try out the Exp. All, since Starmie is going to need a LOT of levels to get past lance. And staryu can help soften up difficult pokemon (at high enough level ofc) or just to reset stat drops/confusion
I'd like to see a Shuppet only run in FR/LG or D/P/P. Maybe add a rule in D/P/P that you have to defeat the Legendaries in whichever version you choose.
(1:16) Aw, you're not allowing yourself to use Super Potions on your full-HP Pokémon? (3:10) Heh, a niche use for Roar, against Brock's Biding Onix. (4:15) Which fossil did you take? I hear "you were close" is good for the Pokémon Snap algorithm... except, my Pokémon was totally centered within the frame, Professor Oak! (6:18) The Gen. 1 miss glitch strikes again. (7:02) Welp, Cashier Surge is gonna be demoted to bag boy now. :P (8:26) LOL, that Mah-Wile is hilarious! (11:57) Yes, please do that for the hahas. (12:34) Wow, 7 Roars in a row! (13:56) Well, there's the Exp. All item, but it's terrible in Gen. 1, and requires you to have 50 owned Pokémon registered in your Pokédex. (21:58) That Alakazam was clearly influenced by Blaine's AI. :P (22:14) Well, you could switch out to one of your other Pokémon to get rid of the Defense drops if you wanted, since this isn't a solo run. (22:44) And that's game!
I've been waiting for this for a while. We need an even MORE insane version, though. I'm talking randomizing your move choice, baby! Blaine + Metronome!
i need to say this now i watch u for pretty long now of course im not a hard core fan who was here from the beginning but your pokemon challanges make me always so happy and they are so much fun to watch and i want more! but everytime i search for such challanges i only find ones i dont like but from you i love all the pokemon challanges there is just noone that can replace you thanks for that
Run idea. Solo challenge run but your pokemon has poisoned status affliction the whole time. Taking damage every turn and damage whilst walking and having to conserve money to constantly heal throughout your journey. Not sure if it's even possible but would be entertaining to see. Would allow hacked potions and ether to use when you enter a pokecenter for 'free healing' without removing the poison and using up money. All other healing is from what you find/buy.
Nice run! I had an idea for a challenge: Dual (or maybe multiple) challenges in one! For example: Only Onix with no new moves, or only rival's team and no free healing.
Overlevel aside, Brock was easier than you expected because both of his pokemon have horrendous Special (and Special Defense in later gens), so basically any special attacking move besides Thundershock that you could get access to this early would make short work of him. Him potentially wasting time on Defense Curl when you don't attack with physical also helps.
Growlithe is in the slow leveling group because Arcanine was meant to be a psuedo-legendary when it was developed. That's why it has one of the highest non-legendary base stat totals in Gen 1, only losing to Gyarados and (oddly) Cloyster.
The badge boost glitch saved the run in the champion fight. The two stat changes increased the Specail and allowed Arcanine to survive the Hydro pump and boosted the attack to kill the opposing Arcanine.
Usually live your content, but these multi Mon runs where you have one beast and multiple nobodies are wearing a little thin. I do, however, enjoy your elemental monkey and Plusle/Minun runs and frequently rewatch.
I don't really get the point of this kind of challenges tbh. It was basically a solo run with Arcanine + you grinded the rest of Blaines team up to never use them. Would have been better if you grinded all of them to a reasonable level (instead of just overleveling Arcanine) and use funny strats like fire storm or use items to beat them.
So the reason for all the terrible movesets in Red and Blue is because trainers before Yellow didn't have special movesets. Their pokemon had the last 4 moves they would learn at that level. Gym Leaders and the Elite Four had one pokemon that the game grants a special move (for Blaine it's his Arcanine's Fire Blast) and the Champion has 2, but for all the other pokemon they're exactly the same as running into a wild pokemon at that level.
Growlithe and Arcanine are meant to reference legendary dog type things, so the slow level up is a nod to their legendary status and long lifespans. At least, that's how I always interpreted it.
I'm seriously laughing very hard when Blaine use 7 roars in a row (okay, one single super potion in between). I know Blaine's AI was seriously stupid, but that one was at the whole new level stupidity! anyway I love your videos bro, keep it up.
Would've been way more interesting if Ponyta/Rapidash had been featured. MDB should probably learn more about Pokemon if he doesn't know the potential effectiveness of their movesets. And it would have been really cool to see the whole team trained into the 50s working together to take down the league. Some videos are pretty good. This one could have been a bit better. :l
Just so you know, Agatha's 2nd Gengar doesn't have hypnosis it was replaced with toxic. But for some reason it still has dream eater even though she has no way of putting you to sleep at that point. Gotta love gen 1 lol.
Growlithe probably levels slowly because it was originally meant to be a legendary, as you could see within the first episode (or second, I don’t remember) where there was a tablet with the legendary birds and Arcanine, hinting towards its legendary roots. So the slow leveling is probably a remnant from those days.
I don't like these "use their team" runs, where it's just a solo run with a powerful pokemon. What I would do is you must keep your highest and lowest pokemon within the same levels as the person who's team you're using. Meaning, you can't just ditch the rest of the team.
This is one of the runs where I think you should have allowed items to be used, if only to use super potions on full health teams at the beginning of every gym leader fight. And I'm once again requesting a HG/SS run.
13:55 But there is an Exp Share in Gen 1, called "Exp All". You get it from Oak's aide after catching 50 pokemon. Held items aren't a feature in Gen 1, but simply having it in the bag spreads out exp to the whole party. It is bugged, obviously, but it still gives everyone exp. And that bug only happens if more than 1 pokemon are in the fight (which isn't the case if you're just using Arcanine to KO stuff).
Always love these videos. And yeah, EXP Share in Gen 1 is garbage, requiring an item slot AND sharing it everyone in the party. Looking forward to the next run (and the LP's)
Fun Fact, There IS in fact an Exp Share in Gen 1, Its name was Exp All, and you can obtain it by obtaining 50 pokemon and then talking to Prof. Oak's Aide at Route 15 Fuschia Gate 2nd Floor. Note the only reason why I remembered this was because I accidently sold the Exp All on my copy of Red.
@@Darth_Pidgey nope, not in Gen 1, it was treated like an item item. Cuz this was about 18 years ago, and I was Frantically trying to find a way to buy it back.
Idea for a challenge run in any gen. In every wild Pokémon encounter you must throw one pokeball(or great/ultra/master) at the beginning of the fight. If you catch it it’s added to your party taking the position of the Pokémon that’s been with you longest if you have more that six Pokémon.
I thought gen 1 did have an experience share (though it was more of an exp all in gen 1). I vaguely remember there being one in the gatehouse between Vermillion City and Lavender Town, the one to the left of the Snorlax as you're coming from Lavender Town. It's given to you by one of Oaks aids for catching a bunch of species of pokemon. I might be thinking of something added in FR/LG though. It's been a LOT of years since I played the original RBY Edit - I was tired when I wrote this so I forgot the "no items in battle, only pokeballs to catch others for HMs". I guess this means you probably won't catch enough pokemon to qualify for the exp share but at the time my brain just heard "no exp share in gen 1" and went with that lol
Something you should know as you end the near of Pokemon Mystery Dungeon is that the majority of the content is Post-Game. The story makes up less than ⅓ of the game. So your Blue Rescue Team Let's Play would be missing a majority of the games content as well as further character exploration, Gengar particularly.
PSA: Gen 1 does not have experience share. All it has is experience all, a nearly useless item that requires you catch 50 Pokemon before you can get it
Having it in your inventory spreads your experience across your whole team, something I don't want to do because we had 2 dead weight Pokemon on the team
Experience share would have been worth it for sure because I could keep Rapidash's level up. Experience all would spread the experience 4 ways, including giving half the experience to teammates we never had any reason to use
Basically, if I used experience all then this challenge would have taken an entire week longer with no benefit
Y no new episode of mystery dungeon tho?
@@cobragunner1239 Brandon was super busy with his work for the last month. We just got time to record 2 episodes on Friday, and I was way too busy editing the Pokemon Challenges to get that edited yet
The next 2 episodes will probably be out this week. If you check out the end of these videos, I usually try to give updates on that stuff
@@MahDryBread You should do what Blaine does and create a team and move lock yourself and only use roar for the first 5 turns of combat against gym leaders and rivals. Any team you want but the team has to collectively use roar 5 times before throwing out a good move. If you think it is to easy or to hard change up the number of roars
Do a run where you only use one pokemon and can only level up the rest of the team with an experience all /j
Here's a challenge that could be funny! You can use ANY Pokemons at any levels, but they can only use frustration at its minimum power (basically attacking with a 1 power move)
I'll only count this as a true Blaine run if you have a 1 in 4 chance of using a Super Potion on any given turn.
As funny as that would be to watch and commentate, rolling a 4-sided dice every turn would make it *WAY* too slow, even if it was restricted to important battles.
take this challenge to pokemon platinum, fight red with this team and THEN do the 1 in 4 chance thing for red's fight only
@@pillager3653 red doesn’t appear in platinum i think
@@ultimapower6950 ye they probably meant HGSS
And only if it occurs after you move.
3:16 so that's why Blaine uses roar, He's expecting you to use bide!
7:08 he thought you were Blaine and thought you were going to use a super potion
12:40 it's not his fault, he thought he was looking at a mirror but was confused by you not doing stupid stuff, so he did extra to make up for it
I'm having way too much fun with this
Thanks for sharing the fun with us all 😂
Best comment hahaha
13:56 - Clarification for the comments: There *IS* an EXP Share in Gen 1, it's just the worst. No held items in Gen 1 meant no way to focus who gets XP, so it's divided among all Pokemon in the party equally. That's *DIVIDED,* as in, when you have the item while using a full team all mons only get 1/6th the XP of the fainted opposing Pokemon. Thus making it 3 times less efficient than just switch training, especially since some Pokemon using HMs might need to be present.
Slight correction: Exp All gives 50% to the participating pokemon and 50% divided among the remaining pokemon.
(Assuming you only use one pokemon per KO, and none of your pokemon are fainted, because Exp All is a Gen 1 mechanic and therefore incredibly bugged.)
The most irritating part is how long the text takes, as it tells you how much _every_ Pokémon gets _every_ time you faint anything, so in a full team it becomes utterly obnoxious. That reason alone is why I never used it after my first playthrough with it as a kid.
I came to the comments to find this
The main problem is that Mah-Dry-Bread most of the time will never get the XP Share in that generation because you need to catch 50 Pokémon to get it
Interesting bit of info - Arcanine was originally penned to be a legendary pokemon, hence the slow exp growth for Growlithe.
Plus if you look up arcanine on the pokedex, it says legendary
Yeah it's category is literally the " legendary " pokemon
Exactly, was looking for a comment like this:)
Plus, Arcanine has incredible stats. I believe its base stat total is eclipsed only by the legendaries, Dragonite, Cloyster, and Gyarados.
@@paulnewton2284 Yes to the legendaries & Dragonite but I think is on par with Cloyster & Gyarados in Gen 1 but Gen 3 and later passes Cloyster & Gyarados.
I have to agree this time with some people, you need to have more than one option, you pretty much just solo it with arcanine 😅
Oh man him and Blaine can have a roar battle!
*RAWR!*
Do the roar
Run idea: can only use moves that hurt the user, so Explode, self destruct, double edge, take down, struggle, curse if you're playing gen 2 onwards... With no items in battle, that ought to lead to some stressful fights
Should do this in gen 5, since there will more options (wild charge, flare blitz, brave bird, etc)
Would high jump kick count since you get hurt when you miss?
Ditto basically struggles the whole game anyway so I'm pretty sure your challenge would be pretty easy, though could still be fun
@@dahelmang I'd say just count anything boosted by Reckless, so yeah the jump kicks would be boosted
Need to update the title,
"Can I beat Pokemon Red with an Arcanine with a bad move set?"
Which of course you can. It's Arcanine. If you'd kept Blaine's levels (which admittedly wasn't part of the rules), this would have been a more interesting run.
I don't mean to be rude but it's hard to differentiate this from an Arcanine solo run since none of the other team members got any chance to be used. Without using the Rapidash for anything it just seems like a 'with only X Pokemon' run only that Pokemon has much higher base stats than normal and you can switch out if you need to.
13:55 - There is an EXP Share in Gen 1, however it's only obtainable from one of Professor Oak's Aides by Fuchsia City if you have data of at least 50 pokémon in your pokédex - meaning you have to have owned 50 different species.
In Gen 1, the EXP Share is an "EXP All". It works by splitting the experience in half and then sharing it. One half is shared between all the pokémon that took part in that battle, and the other half is shared between your entire party.
He should definitely be utilizing this
I came here to say this. I remember the Exp All being incredibly bad though, fighting gym leaders only gave each Pokémon less than 200 exp per defeated mon so it's only decent when you're training only one other in your party as an entire party splits the exp 6 ways ;^;
@@change0f_heart And there was a textbox for every single Pokémon gaining xp, every single time. That was actually my main issue with it.
Also the text after you win the battle wastes time as it has to say each pokemon who received pokemon, not worth it tbh
Came to the comments to say this. I thought we were done with MDB being ignorant of gen I.
Tbh these "team" runs have gotten pretty annoying since they almost always turn into a pseudo solo run, with occasionally grinding other Pokémon to the minimum to get certain moves. Rapidash should've been used so much more, especially with how broken Gen 1 Fire Spin is
And stomp. Yes Arcanine could have still been a main damage dealer but Rapidash could have worked to soften up the enemy or simply to have another battle ready one to use when arcanine faints.
Yeah but fire spin has 15 power and 70 accuracy in this gen, not 35 power and 85 accuracy.
@@therockwizard.9687 power doesn't matter when you can outspeed and stop your opponent from doing anything
@@o7_AP Unreliably, of course.
@@skeetermania3202 I mean MBT relies on unreliable stuff happening all the time. Flinches, crits, missing, etc. he'll replay fights the same way over and over again until he gets one of those to happen. Fire Spin Rapidash would've been the same
I hope you used a Super Potion at full health at least once this run
Kinda wished you started with ponyta since you encounter wild growlithes much earlier. This feels more like a growlithe solo run plus late pointless ponyta at the end
Feels more like a Arcanine run than a Blaine's team Challenge.
Kinda. Rapidash could have had some use with firespin and stomp Or at least worked to soften up the enemy some more. But well there is also production time that needs to be accounted for.
Arcanine was the only one on Blaine's team with a decent enough moveset.
@@joenavy6859 I get that, but the rest of the team was ignored and not used. The point of a team challenge should be to use the team not the best pokemon on that team.
My mom doesn’t know much about Pokemon but she still recognizes Team Rocket’s motto & James’ voice from the anime. I always found that cute.
Alternate title: "Can I Beat Pokemon Red with only Blaine's Arcanine?".
Imo, you should have started with a Ponyta for more challenge. Growlithe was the easy way out.
I get that you did it this way because of time and ease, but I feel that if you're going to do a run with multiple pokemon, you should use multiple pokemon. Don't get me wrong, I did enjoy the video, but this felt more like a solo challenge then a team run. You still make my favourite pokemon content, and I'm looking forward to the next challenge. Now I'm off to binge some mystery dungeon, I've fallen a bit behind
I feel like you shouldnt power level one mon and focus on that in these runs. There should be a rule that all mons need to be within say 5 levels of each other.
Otherwise its just a single mon run, but easier cause you have other pokemon as fodder.
Feel like rapidash could still have been useful if you'd leveled it just enough to outspeed and fire spin. Nice run!
I'm not sure about that. As a 70% accuracy move (less than Wrap's 85%), it's really frustrating to use.
@@jakerockznoodles it does passive damage per turn though.
@@iceneko9170That's not how binding moves work in Gen 1. In Gen 1, you cannot set them up to do passive damage. If the move hits, your target is immobilised and you are semi-immobilised, only able to continue the attack for 1-4 more turns, not using any additional PP. Its power being equal to, and its accuracy being worse than Wrap make it far more of a crapshoot.
At this point, every time you go through the Gen 1 Elite Four, my mind starts singing:
"We don't talk about Bruno~" followed by "It Was Agatha All Along~"
ok
@@thecriticalghost4626 kk?
@cry about it mm
Long time lurker, first time commenter.
I think a run where you can only use Pokemon whose names only start with M, D, or B could be interesting. If their names change after evolution you gotta throw 'em out!
Keep up the good content my man 💪
The magnets gonna be powerhouses
I thought of a challenge like that!
Great minds think alike!
Everstone finally useful
Beldum-metagross is a safe keep should do it on emerald
Could even get everstone second town and keep marshtomp
Should have just called this the Arcanine solo run
2:33 Growlithe most likely has that learn speed because Arcanine was originally supposed to be a legendary in Gen 1 but that was changed near the end of production.
Make sure you use lots of potions on full health pokemon!
Neat video but it's less a only Blaine's team and more of a Can I Beat Pokemon Red with ONLY Blaine's... Arcanine lol. I know it's the only one that doesn't suck but rapidash could have done some work with firespin if leveled, hell maybe even growlithe could have badge boosted a bit and surprised you.
It seems bad that challenges like this pretty much devolve into a solo run with the best pokemon getting seriously overleveled and the rest of the team being far to low in level to contribute. I'd like to see not only the matching pokemon and move sets, but maintaining the same level difference between them as the original trainer.
On our way through, I took the helix fossil. I knew if I didn’t say what I took you’d all ask. Actually now that I think about it everyone ask anyway. Comments are good for the UA-cam algorithm.
On our way through, I took the helix fossil. I knew if I didn't say what I took you'd all ask. Actually now that I think about it everyone ask anyway. Comments are good for the UA-cam algorithm.
On our way though, I took the Algae Fossil. Why? Because it can be resurrected into the almighty *Algaerithm!*
So practically this was "can i beat pokemon red with Blaine's Arcanine"
Looking forward to the Dunsparce run!
Seems more like an Arcanine only run. I would have loved more Rapidash Action, i just love that Pokemon
Wish Rapidash got more use. Abusing fast fire spin can dominate tough match ups, but given your schedule I get that stalling tactics like this could've strained the video's production.
You coulda used rapidash with fire spin because in gen 1 fire spin prevents the target from attacking until it wears off as well as every other binding move. In other words, fire spin is actually insanely broken
Went from "Can I Beat Pokemon Red with ONLY Blaine's Team" to "Can I Beat Pokemon Red with ONLY Blaine's Arcanine"
Such is most of these specific team runs
Gen 1 DOES have an Experience Share. You get it from an Aide for getting enough pokemon, and it sits in your bag distributing the Exp to everyone, like in later generations at the end of the fight. Looking at Bulbapedia, it's the Route 15 Aide in a Gate, as a reward for catching 50 Pokemon. And is apparently called EXP.ALL instead of EXP.SHARE.
...of course, it's also bugged, so you lose EXP if you switch pokemon, but it does still exist.
The problem with the EXP ALL is that it cuts the EXP earned by the participating EXP in half, and then splits the other half of the EXP to the rest of the team. This means that in a full team, an individual Pokemon that doesn't participate gets 8.33% of the EXP of the fight, so it's very slow in general. It's not really like later generations at all, where the participating Pokemon get 100% of the EXP from the fight and others get 50%. And if you have HM users in your party (like most of these runs do), a good amount of EXP is "wasted" on them. Add on the aforementioned issue with switching Pokemon and it's just not very helpful.
This challenge with Blaine's Yellow team would've been easy, like those movesets are actually decent and it's three fully-evolved Pokémon rather than two fully-evolved ones and their prevos xD
Also I checked the FR and LG team and guess what: in that game the Growlithe has the same moveset as Arcanine and Ponyta has the same moveset as Rapidash!
Nice run, but I feel this turned into “can you beat Pokémon blue with just an Arcanine”, rather than a Blaine team.
I feel like you could have utilized Rapidash on Lance to trivialize the fight with Fire Spin if it were a higher level since it's a fairly fast pokemon.
We know you can definitely beat pokemon red with an Arcanine now.
Rival 4 is super easy because you know to do Rocket Hideout first. Rival 4’s levels are set so that when a new player comes out of Rock Tunnel and sees Lavender Town, they have a good fight against Rival 4, since it’s fair to assume a new player will go to the Pokemon Tower since it’s such a unique building.
How funny would it be if he only healed between the elite four with super potions
At 9:15 I just wanted to point out that Growlithe does learn another level up move at level 50, that being Flamethrower. Also, it learns Agility at level 39
Yes, but the goal of this run was to also imitate Blaine's move set, and neither of his dogs had Flamethrower.
I get that it takes a bit longer to grind, but the lvl difference within the team just feels like an intentional handicap in most videos. Rapidash with Fire Spin is busted, albeit a slow burn, in Gen 1. plus, even if Ponyta and Growlithe aren't as good as their evos, they'd still be residual damage adding up. Love the vids and the challenge ideas, but gdm...the lvl difference leading to "this fight was tough" really feels forced xD
Agility with growlithe for some batch boost. Stomp for flinches and well fire spin. At least getting Rapidash up as second damage dealer could have eased some things.
I'm noticing a pattern of these just becoming a single pokemon runs but with side quests.
This wasn't really a Blaine run. It was an Arcanine run. Coulda used the other mons more. Fine run tho
"Can I beat Pokemon Red with Only Blaine's Team and Moves?"
"Can I beat Pokemon Red with Only 1 Arcanine?"
Corporate wants you to spot the difference.
Growlithe probably levels slowly because it was being considered as legendary in development. Like in the pokedex, and in the anime being paired with the legendary birds
My thoughts too
or maybe because arcanine is one of the strongest none legendary pokemon in the game
For the first time ever, it's beneficial to have roar in a gen 1 trainer battle.
Would be cool if you could use like a move randomiser that chooses randomly between your attacking moves and using a super potion. Could be a nice follow up run one day? Almost like metronoming haha
Haven't seen any other comments about this, but the audio seems higher quality this episode and it is appreciated. Aside from that, keep up the great work and thank you for the content!
Seems kinda pointless to do a team challenge like this if you are simply gonna pump everything into a single pokemon. Yeah, the Ponyta and Growlithe were useless, but you could have done something with the Rapidash at least. It has okay Attack and Speed, so with Stomp it could have gotten some flinches for free kills on those pokemon that you had to waste Arcanine's health on Take Downs.
A more accurate title: can you beat Pokémon red only using Arcanine?
So....."Can I beat Pokemon Red with a team of only Arcanine?" essentially. Can't blame you, Arcanine is arguably the best fire type in the game and one of the strongest Pokemon all around in Gen 1. I'm actually surprised you didn't end up using Rapidash more. Between its high speed and Stomp combining for a deadly crit machine and Fire Spin in Gen I having the potential to basically lock and bleed your opponents to fainting (though I will admit that tactic can be tedious and unreliable), Rapidash has the ability to be an absolute beast when properly leveled. Still, one of the biggest things that works against it is that you get it so late in the game when you generally have an already established team and are running out of trainers to fight. This didn't go how I expected it to, but your vids are always a treat to watch and I look forward to them!
P.S. EXP Share does exist in Gen 1. It's called 'EXP All' and you get it from Professor Oak's aide in that building between Fuschia and Route 15 if I remember right. You have to have Pokedex data for at least 50 Pokemon (which doesn't do you any good in your challenges) to get it, though.
Between Blaine and Blue both having roar on their Arcanine, I wonder if Gamefreak intended for it to work in combat and it was just Gen 1 spaghetti code that messed that up.
I apologize in advance for the length of this.
There is an Exp. All in gen 1. It is the first iteration of modern shared exp. It was abandoned for the Exp. Share in gen 2. You can get the Exp. All from one of oak's aides in the gate east of Fushia (Koga's city) by having 50 pokemon registered in your Pokedex. This would ofcourse only be usable in multiple-pokemon runs.
You could honestly just use a cheat to fill your dex, it would in no way impact the difficulty of the run except giving you access to flash, but you could always opt to enable the cheat when first arriving to Fushia.
It works a bit differently than the later iterasions though. It splits your exp gained in two equal halves, the first part gets divided equally between all pokemon that participated in battle. The second half gets divided equally between all pokemon in your party. Yes that means participating pokemon gets exp from both halves.
I'll do an example with your team. Let's say you didn't switch this battle. You gained 3600 exp. This gets divided in 2 equal halves of 1800 each. Arcanine gets one of those, and the other half is divided by four (your amount of team mates) into 450 × 4. This means Ponyta, Rapidash and Growlithe all get 450 exp each, while Arcanine gets 2250 exp (1800 + 450).
This would have allowed you to still overlevel RK9 while keeping your team mates more useful when needed. I'm almost certain this gives your whole team full stat experience, but I'm unsure. The biggest downside to this would be all the text boxes popping up, but hey, that's what autofire buttons are for.
I absolutely love your content so far MDB, I really hope you'll consider a Misty run in the future. Would be a great chance to try out the Exp. All, since Starmie is going to need a LOT of levels to get past lance. And staryu can help soften up difficult pokemon (at high enough level ofc) or just to reset stat drops/confusion
I'd like to see a Shuppet only run in FR/LG or D/P/P. Maybe add a rule in D/P/P that you have to defeat the Legendaries in whichever version you choose.
This was actually more a Can I Beat Pokemon Red with Arcanine more than Blanes Team
I believe the reason Growlithe takes so long to train is because it was initially going to be a legendary. So they gave it a high exp curve to match
(1:16) Aw, you're not allowing yourself to use Super Potions on your full-HP Pokémon?
(3:10) Heh, a niche use for Roar, against Brock's Biding Onix.
(4:15) Which fossil did you take? I hear "you were close" is good for the Pokémon Snap algorithm... except, my Pokémon was totally centered within the frame, Professor Oak!
(6:18) The Gen. 1 miss glitch strikes again.
(7:02) Welp, Cashier Surge is gonna be demoted to bag boy now. :P
(8:26) LOL, that Mah-Wile is hilarious!
(11:57) Yes, please do that for the hahas.
(12:34) Wow, 7 Roars in a row!
(13:56) Well, there's the Exp. All item, but it's terrible in Gen. 1, and requires you to have 50 owned Pokémon registered in your Pokédex.
(21:58) That Alakazam was clearly influenced by Blaine's AI. :P
(22:14) Well, you could switch out to one of your other Pokémon to get rid of the Defense drops if you wanted, since this isn't a solo run.
(22:44) And that's game!
Isn't Surge demotions a Jrose thing?
@@tatianabasileus
Yep.
Thank you for that awesome run! Was a pleasure again to watch! 💚
I love these specific team battles! Makes fights much more interesting ngl
I don't like that with most of these runs they devolve into one Pokemon runs it really ruins it
I have always hoped for a solo arcanine/growlithe run as it is my favorite pokemon. I am counting this as that because it basically was. Hooray!
I've been waiting for this for a while.
We need an even MORE insane version, though. I'm talking randomizing your move choice, baby! Blaine + Metronome!
8:26 Props to the Mah-Wile designer; that was beautiful ❤️
i need to say this now i watch u for pretty long now of course im not a hard core fan who was here from the beginning but your pokemon challanges make me always so happy and they are so much fun to watch and i want more! but everytime i search for such challanges i only find ones i dont like but from you i love all the pokemon challanges there is just noone that can replace you thanks for that
suggestion: Beat the gen with Ash's team from that gen. So Pikachu in everything, but the rest of the team changes out and is decently varied.
Run idea. Solo challenge run but your pokemon has poisoned status affliction the whole time. Taking damage every turn and damage whilst walking and having to conserve money to constantly heal throughout your journey. Not sure if it's even possible but would be entertaining to see.
Would allow hacked potions and ether to use when you enter a pokecenter for 'free healing' without removing the poison and using up money. All other healing is from what you find/buy.
Suggestion: Lt. Surge team.
I know Joov demotes him every time he is defeated. It could provide some creative commentary. Good luck! :D
Nice run! I had an idea for a challenge: Dual (or maybe multiple) challenges in one! For example: Only Onix with no new moves, or only rival's team and no free healing.
A “run only” run would be Interesting too, does the same thing by covering a no catching and a no grinding challenge at the same time
Should've just made it an Arcanine only run tbh.
So the solo arcanine run went OK 👍 lol
Overlevel aside, Brock was easier than you expected because both of his pokemon have horrendous Special (and Special Defense in later gens), so basically any special attacking move besides Thundershock that you could get access to this early would make short work of him. Him potentially wasting time on Defense Curl when you don't attack with physical also helps.
Growlithe is in the slow leveling group because Arcanine was meant to be a psuedo-legendary when it was developed. That's why it has one of the highest non-legendary base stat totals in Gen 1, only losing to Gyarados and (oddly) Cloyster.
The badge boost glitch saved the run in the champion fight. The two stat changes increased the Specail and allowed Arcanine to survive the Hydro pump and boosted the attack to kill the opposing Arcanine.
Should have just called it an arcanine only challenge
YESSSSSS DUNSPARCE TIME!!!!
Legit one of my favorite Pokemon.
Usually live your content, but these multi Mon runs where you have one beast and multiple nobodies are wearing a little thin. I do, however, enjoy your elemental monkey and Plusle/Minun runs and frequently rewatch.
I don't really get the point of this kind of challenges tbh. It was basically a solo run with Arcanine + you grinded the rest of Blaines team up to never use them.
Would have been better if you grinded all of them to a reasonable level (instead of just overleveling Arcanine) and use funny strats like fire storm or use items to beat them.
So the reason for all the terrible movesets in Red and Blue is because trainers before Yellow didn't have special movesets. Their pokemon had the last 4 moves they would learn at that level. Gym Leaders and the Elite Four had one pokemon that the game grants a special move (for Blaine it's his Arcanine's Fire Blast) and the Champion has 2, but for all the other pokemon they're exactly the same as running into a wild pokemon at that level.
Growlithe and Arcanine are meant to reference legendary dog type things, so the slow level up is a nod to their legendary status and long lifespans. At least, that's how I always interpreted it.
I'm seriously laughing very hard when Blaine use 7 roars in a row (okay, one single super potion in between). I know Blaine's AI was seriously stupid, but that one was at the whole new level stupidity! anyway I love your videos bro, keep it up.
Glad you'll finish Mystery dungeon soon. I've been looking forward to it ever since the last episode
Would've been way more interesting if Ponyta/Rapidash had been featured. MDB should probably learn more about Pokemon if he doesn't know the potential effectiveness of their movesets. And it would have been really cool to see the whole team trained into the 50s working together to take down the league.
Some videos are pretty good. This one could have been a bit better. :l
Just so you know, Agatha's 2nd Gengar doesn't have hypnosis it was replaced with toxic. But for some reason it still has dream eater even though she has no way of putting you to sleep at that point. Gotta love gen 1 lol.
Growlithe probably levels slowly because it was originally meant to be a legendary, as you could see within the first episode (or second, I don’t remember) where there was a tablet with the legendary birds and Arcanine, hinting towards its legendary roots. So the slow leveling is probably a remnant from those days.
Challenge suggestion: pick any version (obviously Gens I and II will be crazier), but beat each gym leader and E4 member with their own team.
You'd definitely need to either use a mod or do some hacking to make the E4 actually work with that. Unless you want to do it in Sword or Shield.
@@paulnewton2284 I realized that after I typed it. Maybe use the Champion's team against E4?
13:56 there is the Exp. All in gen 1. But I think you have to catch a certain number of Pokémon to get it.
I don't like these "use their team" runs, where it's just a solo run with a powerful pokemon. What I would do is you must keep your highest and lowest pokemon within the same levels as the person who's team you're using. Meaning, you can't just ditch the rest of the team.
This is one of the runs where I think you should have allowed items to be used, if only to use super potions on full health teams at the beginning of every gym leader fight.
And I'm once again requesting a HG/SS run.
Firespin with Rapidash! It's like Wrap.
Thank you MDB for showing my GOLDIZARD! I literally popped of out loud when I saw it
13:55 But there is an Exp Share in Gen 1, called "Exp All". You get it from Oak's aide after catching 50 pokemon. Held items aren't a feature in Gen 1, but simply having it in the bag spreads out exp to the whole party.
It is bugged, obviously, but it still gives everyone exp. And that bug only happens if more than 1 pokemon are in the fight (which isn't the case if you're just using Arcanine to KO stuff).
Always love these videos. And yeah, EXP Share in Gen 1 is garbage, requiring an item slot AND sharing it everyone in the party.
Looking forward to the next run (and the LP's)
Fun Fact, There IS in fact an Exp Share in Gen 1, Its name was Exp All, and you can obtain it by obtaining 50 pokemon and then talking to Prof. Oak's Aide at Route 15 Fuschia Gate 2nd Floor. Note the only reason why I remembered this was because I accidently sold the Exp All on my copy of Red.
You can't sell the EXP All its a key item.
@@Darth_Pidgey nope, not in Gen 1, it was treated like an item item. Cuz this was about 18 years ago, and I was Frantically trying to find a way to buy it back.
I love this. It would also be cool to see these ‘same team’ runs where you’re allowed to optimize the move sets
YAHOO! Blaine's retribution! Growlithe's backsprite KILLS me. Sorta looks like Kermit when he dosen't approve. Laughing so hard. I Love This Run!
Idea for a challenge run in any gen. In every wild Pokémon encounter you must throw one pokeball(or great/ultra/master) at the beginning of the fight. If you catch it it’s added to your party taking the position of the Pokémon that’s been with you longest if you have more that six Pokémon.
I thought gen 1 did have an experience share (though it was more of an exp all in gen 1). I vaguely remember there being one in the gatehouse between Vermillion City and Lavender Town, the one to the left of the Snorlax as you're coming from Lavender Town. It's given to you by one of Oaks aids for catching a bunch of species of pokemon. I might be thinking of something added in FR/LG though. It's been a LOT of years since I played the original RBY
Edit - I was tired when I wrote this so I forgot the "no items in battle, only pokeballs to catch others for HMs". I guess this means you probably won't catch enough pokemon to qualify for the exp share but at the time my brain just heard "no exp share in gen 1" and went with that lol
It has! If I'm not mistaken it works similarly as it does in Gen 6, but it's worse and you have to deposit it in order to "turn it off".
gen 1 did have one. it just shared the exp between all party members.
Nice Solo Arcanine run !!
Something you should know as you end the near of Pokemon Mystery Dungeon is that the majority of the content is Post-Game. The story makes up less than ⅓ of the game. So your Blue Rescue Team Let's Play would be missing a majority of the games content as well as further character exploration, Gengar particularly.