Everything You Need To KNOW About END GAME Bows and Arrows | Tier 3 & Tier 4 | Icarus Tips
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Some points on the rifle vs Bow argument:
- the bow is silent, while the rifle does draw attention.
- the arrows should be recoverable most of the time, while the bullet is always consumed
- from what I saw, the rifle will break down in exactly 100 shots, while a tier 3 or 4 bow with the nice extra 15% durability perk will last for longer
- the crit damage of a bow will deal with a lot of the lesser animals (wolves, jaguars, etc.) so going for the rifle would be somewhat overkill.
However, having the trusty boom stick for old Teddy is a very good idea. And at that tech level I'd say carry both. Have a bow with 100 arrows for the low & mid health targets and the repeating rifle with 100 bullets for those dicey situations. Or go for bow + shotgun - whatever feels good.
One thing about the rifle that does disappoint is that there is a max range (after which the projectile either falls off fast or just poofs out of existence) and I don't think it's much more than the one for the bow. I was kind of hoping that with a rifle I'd be able to say hello to critters from way farther away.
Unless it's changed, if you can hit the long distance headshot with the kill cam you can still hit the target! I do agree on arrows, it's a fantastic early game. However by the time you can make a rifle, the materials for bullets are plentiful so the "waste" for me isn't on the bullet, but for the extra inventory for arrows / bows I don't really need. Love the points though all very good.
I go bows mainly because I've invested talent points into it. Guns are great, but if you're doing missions, a lot of times you won't get there. Also there aren't any Workshop guns yet, so that's a downside. With the 5% break chance on composite arrows and the talent to highlight arrows that I might've missed, it's a very long time before you ever have to restock. Tier 3 and 4 are strictly for open world (which wasn't available when you made this) or when the mission demands it, otherwise I use my caveworm bow and worm/flint arrows and they do just fine.
I am making a gun main in my open world (so i can use an already crafted hunting rifle) and will start doing some missions with it once I hit lvl25 and can craft my own rifle/ammo.
T2 bow is all i need for most stuff....if I am going into the T3 realm I will make a T3 as the mats are not bad...above that I dont feel its needed, especially with Bow talents. I also just stick with bone or flint arrows. The higher mats are typically too valuable unless you are staying for a long time. I just enjoy the bow talent tree and how it is usable from drop all the way thru, so even for low quick missions. With the gun you have to get into the tree and stay at least for a bit....
The only time I go guns on when I have to craft t4 for missions. Otherwise bow all the way.
if i have machinbench i make T3 bow with flint arrows . that do a lot for me
I love the hunting rifle over the bolt action but I so rarely craft the fabricator that I rarely get a chance to use it. Most missions I use the t3 bow with flint arrows with at least a bolt action and ideally a bolt action/shotgun combo. Shotgun shells are so expensive to make though, I tend to keep it strictly in case of emergency. If I'm using the hunting rifle then I don't bother with the shotgun.
if im doing a harder mission I usually follow your example teching up to fab and making a hunting rifle other I just the t3 workshop bow not the compound and a pack of larkwell arrows
Yeah back when this was created it was well before the Exotic Bow updates and the Exotic Bow was trash then, haha! Now just grab a bow, easy game.
the compound bow is useless. why? not because it isnt a really good bow but because you can much more easily making the bolt rifle which is far superior to any bow.
Correct. It's much easier to make the rifle.
I generally keep a T2-T3 bow with flint arrows for ease of access as a backup/wolf duty and keep a shotgun/rifle combo for main use when doing missions.
I do the same except I don't bother with shotty anymore. Plus I have movement speed buffs for bow so I keep bow for that reason as well. A cheap investment for 10% ms bonus
@@ShabbyDoo I do use Fire Whacker for movement and stamina bonus + beer. Run like a wind!
I have a recurve bow and can't load any arrows other than stone and bone.
Are they arrows or bolts? Shouldn't be an issue
I'm a pretty dedicated bow user. I almost always get up to recurve, and go with flint or bone arrows, while my friends go with rifles. I'd be much more inclined to invest in high-end arrows if they'd fix the bugs surrounding looting them off of corpses, I'd also love a talent or module to let me track arrows like they have for knives, spears, and even axes. I've also started bringing the top-tier workshop arrows. I can use them at the beginning to skip stone arrows all together, and then save them for bosses or polar bears later on. Having utility both early and late-drop makes them better than a lot of other choices despite being disposable.
I could see them being useful in the Riverland because of the high lvl creatures
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The bows are really cool and with the higher arrows can be viable and resourceful as you can get most arrows back after the kill (providing they don't move as you're firing lol)
BUT the hunting rifle is the only thing I go for, the relatively cheap cost of the rifle and ammo is too perfect and 6 shots loaded with 100+ ammo in inventory you're sorted to travel around all of ICARUS unafraid.
Seriously, and 100 rifle ammo is as easy as it comes, it's pretty much a t2 resource... try crafting 100 composite arrows easily 😉
Recurve with a bolt action rifle. Full bow talent build.
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I tend to stick with recurve/bone arrows most of the time for ease of ammo replacement. If the situation warrants firearms or if I need a Fabricator, I'll skip the bolt-action completely & go straight to the hunting rifle. I don't bother with the shotgun, IMO it's worse than the pistol.
Lol, I just posted pretty much the exact same strategy that I use. However, now in the river lands I am seeing that maybe I shouldn't skip the bolt-action anymore and maybe the bone arrows should move into flint arrows.
I'll argue for days that the shotgun is not worse than a pistol haha! Just try to kill a polar bear with a pistol vs a shotty 😉
@@ShabbyDoo I don't even understand role the pistol is supposed to fulfill... it's just a rifle without the range, isn't it?
I guess I need to stop using the cross bow haha.
I hope it's good one day!
I just started playing a little over a week or so ago; my friends and I have made it to T4 (I'm lvl 51 now) and I find myself either using a T3 recurve or a T4 compound....and bone arrows. I haven't really felt an impetus to move past them.
yeah, I crafted all the way up to the compound once and never again. Prior to buying the exotics bows I never went above longbow, after that. The resources were just not really worth it.
wish they had some arrow types that would do more dmg to polar bears, perhaps somekind of explosive arrow or such :)
I use the cheapest workshop bow and bone or flint arrows
Dude... Carbon arrows require essentially the same amount of resources as the aluminum arrows. You won't have much trouble finding a bit of extra bones and oxite than having to make an arrow with bloody titanium which is so bloody rare.
And if you make titanium arrows before a hunting rifle... that's just foolish.
Thanks for the info ... I'm a rifle man myself ... and If nothing else, I now know how the hell you are supposed to make Composites
Hey at least you gained a better love for your rifle and learned how to make something you didn't! Haha
I am spec'ed into bow talents a decent enough amount to make them usable, but I don't see much point in pushing too far. Rifles take over when it comes to that point. I get the most mileage in missions from a longbow w/ bone arrows which I switch into a recurve w/bone arrows if I am going to the machining bench. If I go to fabricator, the hunting rifle takes the primary role and I don't even bother with the bolty anymore. When it comes to ammo crafting it is hard not to take advantage of the crap ton of iron that is always left over vs. making choices on how best to use more limited resources to craft high end arrows that just don't have enough killing power. I love shooting the bow (and I love endless bone arrow supply as well), but the lever action makes huge potential problems into minor nuisances.
I have only recently started pushing into the River Lands and find myself going to knife melee after bow strikes more often than I like. I think it may be time for me to take a more serious look at flint arrows for the same reason as above (the iron is just laying around anyway). Hopefully that will be enough to stretch the longbow/recurve until I can get a rifle (probably should also go back to crafting a bolty at the machining bench to hold me over as well).
Yeah Riverland can be rough even with full bow perks. Definitely go for long bow and flint, that will handle most everything besides those thick bears of course! 🐻 🐻❄ 🧸
My friend uses the longbow and stone arrows all the time
He reckons the cost to damage ratio of higher level things isn't worth it, esp using the bow talents, critical hits and stealth bonus in conjunction.
Only time it helps with the perks is against boars / bears / cave worms. Especially at higher levels. Everything else can be 1 shot with t2 bow and stone arrows with full talents
@@ShabbyDoo exactly
So why bother making a rifle?
I'll usually get the T3 bow and stick with bone arrows, maybe go up a tier on arrows but only if I have a ton of extra materials. Hunting Rifle all the way for my primary.
I always suggests skipping bone and going straight for flint unless it's an easy low-level mission. Otherwise those bones are better spent becoming epoxy. Especially after the cave update you should have so much iron you don't know what to do with it all!
@@ShabbyDoo After the update and while it's around, I really might switch to flint.
Great Test, thank you.
if I have a electric furnace up and running I always go for the compound bow. As a decently skilled Archer you can one shot an Elepfant with Flint arrows
True! But I can also one shot it with a hunting rifle before getting the 120? Electronics now needed to produce composites hehe. 🙃. I do want a good reason to use bows over guns though, I LOVE using bows in any games.
@@ShabbyDoo My excuse to using bows is the slow proc talent... you can't slow stuff with guns. Maybe someday there will be animals with enough hp that slowing them is useful...
no T4 thing is worth it. honestly. build a longbow and bone arrows. more than enough for any mission.
i've been building things in the outpost lately and the grind was unreal, even with respawning resources..
Anyone who has played this game very long is already leaning heavy on longbow/bone arrows in early to mid game. However "more than enough for any mission" is a claim I tend to seriously doubt.
@@googleyt2622 if you are referring to the boss missions, there are videos on how to do them in about 30 mins.
@@fackingcopyrights I prefer to play the game without walk throughs, so I will be outfitting myself with the tools available in the game. The grind in this game is a bit long, but it has improved quite a bit in the last update. It's a survival game and the grind is the essence of the game.
No ANY mission but certainly most. If a mission requires a fabricator there's no reason to not make a hunting rifle, it's just too easy and the clip capacity send damage is second to none.
The best thing to do is get the credits and exotics to buy the recurve and work your way up to compound bow from the workshop. I've never worn either one out on a mission and they're better than almost anything you can make unless you spec into all the bonuses to crafted weapons. Until I got the workshop ones, I almost never needed anything above a longbow. Edit: I haven't used any of the firearms, so I'm not sure if it's worth it.
Every since the bow updates the exotics are 100% the way to go. At the time of this video, ALL of the exotics were worse than a long bow xD