I bought the same machine a few months ago . just throw out all 240 volts equipment and bought from amazon 12 volts DC engine for few pounds witch fits exactly , new switch with reverse option ,new bright bulb and makita battery with extra switch. now got completely mobile key cutting machine .With one charge can cut over 40 keys . all modification cost me around 80 pounds ,plus original machine 165 . at the moment very useful and cheap
Nice video! I have one of these machines I bought years ago and never really used. Also I’ve seen comments about why a lot of locksmiths won’t cut customer provided keys and say they will mess up their machines - there is some truth to this - some of the keyblanks you buy online are made of different metals (cheaper manufacturing I suppose) and they can chew up milling bits on key machines. Some of these bits can be pricey to replace - a way to check is to check a key with a magnet (most keyblanks are usually made of brass so they are not magnetic). If it sticks it’s likely to damage the cutter. Now another thing is I don’t cut customer provided keys mainly for these reasons: Often customer provided keys don’t always work (they won’t program wrong part #/cheap defective junk). There’s always a chance that a key gets cut wrong by mistake and that’s a problem. Also if we cut a customer provided key and it doesn’t program customers often want to blame the locksmith and swear there is nothing wrong with their key. Lastly - being purely mobile we don’t make enough money off cutting and programming customer provided keys plain and simple. It’s like bringing your own hamburger meat into McDonald’s and asking them to cook you a burger! Now of course if you want to buy a machine online and all the stuff to do it yourself as a lot of people have done on here all the power to ya! I choose to not do it because I don’t want to deal with the headache that often results from these types of service requests.
I agree it was a good video and I too appreciate you sharing it with everyone, but what I like even more perhaps and can appreciate as well is how you have interacted with the viewers and your response to their comments weather it be a question or just a comment they left you’ve made it a point to respond to them and that’s something to be said because it goes beyond the time you’ve already taken to create and post this informative video in the first place. I know you spent a lot longer than the 9 min and 14 seconds shown in the timeline to create such a video for us and if it wasn’t for people like you many of us would still be in the dark on this machine or anything else we may have turned to youtube for seeking knowledge and explanation. I admire your dedication and wish I could do the same. Thank you for sharing this with us.
Thanks for the comment. I spend a lot of time researching and watching videos for various projects. When I found this key cutting/duplicator machine it was almost a mystery as to how it worked. Nobody had really made any videos on it, or how to set it up, or if it would cut older standard type keys. I think it is at a decent price, though it has gone up since I purchased it, and is still affordable for the average person who wants to get into a hobby.
Wonderful video! I was thinking of using my Dremel to make a key, then I saw your inspiring video. Lots of information for a Do It myself. Thank you so much.
I love how these DIY videos edit out all the problem solving and make a 10 second reference to the problem solving that took them hours and hours. He doesn't even show himself cutting the key which took him hours to do. He just shows the key he already cut off camera. I call shenanigans.
I love how these whiners complain about everything because it just makes those of us, who appreciate the time some of these guys take to shed light on subject matter, as well as making most of us feel a little loftier, for being able to extrapolate the rest...
so this does the same thing as the machines that cost thousands? The answer would be to only use brass key blanks and use the key code for cutting. I own two Belsaw key duplicating machines. I am slowly getting the tooling together to start a mobile car lockout and key making service. I will have to get the reprogramming computer also.
Do these work for standard double cut as well? I have a couple of vehicles that take a double cut but the FOB is too big to fit in my wheel cutter. I have been looking at these, but as you said, there isn’t a lot if info out there on them.
I've cut a few standard double cut keys with this. It is a little awkward and you have to lock the movement to just forward/backward/up/down, then take a small file to clean up the edges.
How does this type of machine work with a normal (non-"laser") key profile like a house key? Do you use a different key block or something so it can cut all the way through the key? Or do you need a whole nother machine for those?
I've cut house keys with this. It is a little tricky as the cutting bit likes to jump off the side. I set the key cutting side up, flat side down. After cutting I take a small file to remove the burrs on the edges.
Great video i also hade simmilar situation where the key was too small to hold by the vice so i bought Key Clamping Fixture for specific key with that I was able to cut and able to make the perfect key just by cutting it once.
Hello I need help , so I lost my 2004 Mini Cooper keys , I have no keys to make a copy now . My question is I don’t want to pay the dealer ship $400 for a key so I bought one from eBay and since the car has bad transmission I just need the key to lock and lock the doors I know it’s easy to sync the key remote but what is my option of cutting the key if there is no key to make a copy on , is there a way to find my car key code somewhere so I take the code to the locksmith to cut my eBay key or I have to take the lock cylinder out and take it to to the locksmith ? Or any other options please ?
I called Ace yesterday and they said they do but you can't bring your own key and it's $189 cut and programmed. I just want the cut and going to use FORscan to program it
Great video, but what I don't understand is what's the name of the machine or manufacturer? I bought one of these machines to do simple key cutting at my shop. Please do a video on what is the correct bit for cutting what key thanks.
The model number is 368A. There are a few manufacturers that make these. As for the bits, there are not much difference between them. I use the smallest one I could on standard keys so they can get in the deep cuts. On side cut keys I'll use the largest one that will fit the cut. You just need to make sure the guide and cutting bit are the same size.
Get the HU101 key fixture, easier and more accurate then doing it that way with a paper spacer. Only $17 on eBay for a set of the key fixtures for the machine to make the H94/HU101 style Ford keys.
I'm intrigued, but confused as to the "laser" part of it. Why is it called laser cutting? I need a Toyota key cut. FOB is dealer programmed already. This FOB is the backup unit to the one that came with the car. The original key has cuts on both sides of the key. Would this be possible with this type of machine? Not opposed to getting a new hobby but makes me wonder where I would get a replacement blank if I screwed the one up that came with the FOB.
Just got that exact key. After programming it, the remote works great! But I took it to Home Depot and they won't cut a key that isn't purchased there.. GREEDY! GREEDY! But it's no wonder! Home Depot sells their FOBs with built in key for $100
Exactly why I bought this key cutting machine. No business I could find would cut a key I brought them. There's no profit in it for them, hence requiring you to buy a $100 key that you can find for $20 online.
@@rmsg7504 Umm, lemme think.... Home Depot sells the SAME FOB, made in China, for massively more money! How much of a profit markup do they have to make?
@@rmsg7504 I know PLENTY about economics and I also know that THE CUSTOMER MEANS NOTHING to corporate America now. STOCK INVESTORS are the only thing corporations pay attention to now... PADDING THAT BOTTOM LINE and "GOLDEN PARACHUTES" for the top executives
I have a 2020 Chevy Sonic. I have a spare key that is only to open the driver door. The ignition is a push button start and the key has already been programmed for that. Do I still need some kind of additional programming for the key so that it works on the door lock? Thx.
I don't quite understand the question. If you have the backup key for the door already, then you are done for making a backup. The key fob needs to be the same frequency as your car so the buttons on it work. Then you have to program the fob. The backup key is only for opening the door if your battery dies, or in some cases, you need it to start the programming of a new key fob.
Lot of time spent, locksmith might be a better way to go. I had that machine. Sold it off and got a used Silca Matrix, problems solved. No more non working fresh cut blades.
The ORIGINAL@@HeartlandRebuilds Silca MAtrix was excellent.The current on, meh. I throw no stones at hobbyists doing favors for friends and family, cheapskating is fine. It also is how many locksmiths originally got started. Once you get a taste of making keys accurately to code, using new remotes, not cheazo universals or refurbies, you will have fond memories of hacking it. Enjoy the process. I started with a matrix SLX and a manual code cutting adapter, many years ago
LAZER CUT,LASERCUT, Sidewinder and other terms are just euphemisms. The are no CO2 or Fiber lasers involved.There usually are CNC machines, to cut to code, even when original key is trashed
@@HeartlandRebuilds AliExpress sale £55 plus 25 delivery in fact bought the other type cutting key machine for more or less the same price as well wait for the sale only downside takes 3 to 4 weeks to come
Yes, it came with a couple. I bought a larger set online in case I broke any. I chipped a bit on one of my first ones going to fast so it only has 3 edges instead of 4 now.
Do you change the bits for different keys? Or will the same size bit work for all keys? I just ordered one of these and I have to cut keys for a 2018 Sierra, 2015 Civic, and a 2016 Fusion.
@@HeartlandRebuilds thank you, I just got it in today and yeah I know what you meant now, I just cut 2 of the 3 keys today abs changed out bits and tracers! Thanks for the quick reply!
I have an Autel IM508 key programmer, though you can also program these Ford keys with free Forscan software for a windows PC that I did in another video.
Cut their own keys ain't that the way it is though. You got to make some money. Somehow they did everything they wouldn't have a business but I understand what you're talking about. That's why I recommend people that ask me and tell him to go a certain place
Did the same then went on to programming the key and remotes xhorse vvd1 max works OK easy to use but still not mastered the remotes side but the cars I have Peugeot and Citroën are not that easy to do made the remotes but will not connect to the car but good video
Some keys you can copy the chip with the same code on it and the car will only think one key is still registered, others you will have to plug into the obd to learn the new chip id of the second fob
@@HeartlandRebuilds that was brave for sure :) I need to cut some home and mailbox keys anyway, so I'll have some training time. And I have toyota - so it's not so crazy side cut as it was for your ford
@@HeartlandRebuilds During yesteryear, when computerized tooling did not exist, serious manufacturing required the services of a skilled 'Set Up Man' to prepare machinery for high precision manufacturing, who worked alongside the people running the lathes and milling machines. Such person had to not only know how to set up machines for precision cutting and milling. (S)he also had to know how various metals would 'behave' under high speed, high precision manufacturing.
Don't want to take it to a locksmith? They charge quite a bit? professional locksmiths charge for the expertise and experience. If you want it done right, get an experienced professional. Some things, yeah you can do by watching UA-cam. Others, it's worth the cost in the long run to pay an experienced pro. Watching you fumbling around with what looks like a toy? advise, go find a real locksmith. Just my cents...
Thanks for your cents. This probably isn't for you. Making your own key for 1/10 the cost of a locksmith saving hundreds may be worth it to others though.
Expertise and experience does not = high prices. Would you pay $100 for a McDonalds hamburger, because it was made from 'expertise and experience'? LOL. Locksmiths are not brain surgeons. Just middle school dropouts with low IQ and a slimy side hustle.
@@HeartlandRebuilds I tried to get a key made the other day for a VW, and the locksmith told me my Ebay purchased key blank might 'break' his cutting bit because of excessive hardness. Of course, I think it's just hoakum to get me to buy his key blank, which was probably purchased from the same internet source as mine.
@@lorenzoparedes2306 lol, that's absurd. They make money selling you things and that is just another way to do it. Keys are not made with hardened steel, it would have been fine.
@@untrust2033, either English is no your first language or you're daft, because "Laser Key/Cut" is just a moniker given to said keys because of their 'laser precision'. He didn't invent the name, so go gripe to them...
So buy a machine, sort out all kinds of problems, takes hours to get it to work.... and that is somehow saving you money? I guess if you are self-employed or supported by your parents then you can have the time to do all that BS. But for most people time IS money, I know a locksmith will come over to my house cut and program the key and it takes 5 minutes of my time. I can sell a lot of product in the 3-4 hours to get a key machine to work personally I'd be losing money doing it the way this guy is.
It takes a couple minutes to cut a key. Time is money, and so is paying someone to come to the car or drive to a locksmith. If you want to pay someone, by all means do it.
@@HeartlandRebuilds I don't want to buy a machine for hundreds of dollars, sort out its problems then take 30 minutes to cut a key to "save" money. Time is money. I don't see how that saves me anything. Plus, your not even showing the process on video. How do I know you even really cut that key?? You don't show the whole process. You just made the video for monetization, there is no showing the actual process you just describe it with words. Anyone who watches this video and has half a brain can see you don't show any of the work to make the machine function or the actual key cutting. How do we know you cut it?
@@rmsg7504 I have several other videos where I made keys and recorded cutting the key if you wanted to see it being cut. The machine isn't several hundred, and it only takes a couple minutes to duplicate a key.
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Most locksmiths would’ve cut those keys for $30-$40 each. You bought the cheapest key cutting machine. Good luck getting things working and spending more money
I own a very similar machine (the DEFU 998-C) & I've had 100% success AND there are scores of videos of other folks using this same machine (or the DEFU 998-C)with a very high degree of success. Let me guess we're all just lucky... LOL
It's worked fine for the last few years of occasional use. It doesn't come with the specific adapters for different types of keys, so you can buy them or make spacers like I did.
I bought the same machine a few months ago . just throw out all 240 volts equipment and bought from amazon 12 volts DC engine for few pounds witch fits exactly , new switch with reverse option ,new bright bulb and makita battery with extra switch.
now got completely mobile key cutting machine .With one charge can cut over 40 keys .
all modification cost me around 80 pounds ,plus original machine 165 .
at the moment very useful and cheap
That's awesome!
Nice video! I have one of these machines I bought years ago and never really used. Also I’ve seen comments about why a lot of locksmiths won’t cut customer provided keys and say they will mess up their machines - there is some truth to this - some of the keyblanks you buy online are made of different metals (cheaper manufacturing I suppose) and they can chew up milling bits on key machines. Some of these bits can be pricey to replace - a way to check is to check a key with a magnet (most keyblanks are usually made of brass so they are not magnetic). If it sticks it’s likely to damage the cutter. Now another thing is I don’t cut customer provided keys mainly for these reasons: Often customer provided keys don’t always work (they won’t program wrong part #/cheap defective junk). There’s always a chance that a key gets cut wrong by mistake and that’s a problem. Also if we cut a customer provided key and it doesn’t program customers often want to blame the locksmith and swear there is nothing wrong with their key. Lastly - being purely mobile we don’t make enough money off cutting and programming customer provided keys plain and simple. It’s like bringing your own hamburger meat into McDonald’s and asking them to cook you a burger! Now of course if you want to buy a machine online and all the stuff to do it yourself as a lot of people have done on here all the power to ya! I choose to not do it because I don’t want to deal with the headache that often results from these types of service requests.
Thanks. As a business you need to make money where you can. Good info.
That's bullshit
I get the general sentiment, but a lot of times they charge 5-10x more for the blank, but they are mobile AND cheaper than a dealer so I deal with it.
I'll gladly take your customers then, simply have them sign not responsible, and get paid. I guess some people rode the short bus
I agree it was a good video and I too appreciate you sharing it with everyone, but what I like even more perhaps and can appreciate as well is how you have interacted with the viewers and your response to their comments weather it be a question or just a comment they left you’ve made it a point to respond to them and that’s something to be said because it goes beyond the time you’ve already taken to create and post this informative video in the first place. I know you spent a lot longer than the 9 min and 14 seconds shown in the timeline to create such a video for us and if it wasn’t for people like you many of us would still be in the dark on this machine or anything else we may have turned to youtube for seeking knowledge and explanation. I admire your dedication and wish I could do the same. Thank you for sharing this with us.
Thanks for the comment. I spend a lot of time researching and watching videos for various projects. When I found this key cutting/duplicator machine it was almost a mystery as to how it worked. Nobody had really made any videos on it, or how to set it up, or if it would cut older standard type keys. I think it is at a decent price, though it has gone up since I purchased it, and is still affordable for the average person who wants to get into a hobby.
Thanks for the tip about tightening that internal bolt. Mine was loose.
The bolt being loose helps with alignment on certain keys, but most keys I make it causes more problems than it helps.
Excellent one of the most comprehensive videos B
Thank you
For the “paper mod” to raise it. I would hit up your favorite fast food place and get a couple of plastic straws. Same thickness easy to measure lol.
Good idea, those would probably last longer too.
Wonderful video! I was thinking of using my Dremel to make a key, then I saw your inspiring video. Lots of information for a Do It myself. Thank you so much.
great video, well worth the watch!
If I needed to make more than 1 key I would buy 1 of these
Thanks for watching!
I love how these DIY videos edit out all the problem solving and make a 10 second reference to the problem solving that took them hours and hours. He doesn't even show himself cutting the key which took him hours to do. He just shows the key he already cut off camera. I call shenanigans.
All the shenanigans are in the playlist on my page called "Keys". I've cut standard and side "laser" keys for Ford, Chevy and VW with this machine.
I love how these whiners complain about everything because it just makes those of us, who appreciate the time some of these guys take to shed light on subject matter, as well as making most of us feel a little loftier, for being able to extrapolate the rest...
The price to get a laser key cut is fuking insane! Its like paying a tire shop $100 to check your tire pressure.
I know, it's a ridiculous price for something so simple.
Good review I have this machine and seen the guide lifting up so I can tighten that wing nut and get more better cuts thank you
No problem 👍
so this does the same thing as the machines that cost thousands? The answer would be to only use brass key blanks and use the key code for cutting. I own two Belsaw key duplicating machines. I am slowly getting the tooling together to start a mobile car lockout and key making service. I will have to get the reprogramming computer also.
I love when people deny the common man. Because that means you have to create yourself and train yourself to reach higher
Absolutely!
Do these work for standard double cut as well? I have a couple of vehicles that take a double cut but the FOB is too big to fit in my wheel cutter. I have been looking at these, but as you said, there isn’t a lot if info out there on them.
I've cut a few standard double cut keys with this. It is a little awkward and you have to lock the movement to just forward/backward/up/down, then take a small file to clean up the edges.
How does this type of machine work with a normal (non-"laser") key profile like a house key? Do you use a different key block or something so it can cut all the way through the key? Or do you need a whole nother machine for those?
I've cut house keys with this. It is a little tricky as the cutting bit likes to jump off the side. I set the key cutting side up, flat side down. After cutting I take a small file to remove the burrs on the edges.
Great video i also hade simmilar situation where the key was too small to hold by the vice so i bought Key Clamping Fixture for specific key with that I was able to cut and able to make the perfect key just by cutting it once.
I'll probably have to do that at some point too.
It's missing the springs in the clamps mine had the same deffo worth putting them in
I have the same cutter. Works good once you learn the quirks.
Yes it does!
Great vid man. I was debating on getting a manual cutter. Now I'm about to
Go for it. They are easy to use and you'll definitely get your use it of it.
@@HeartlandRebuilds Thanks man I appreciate it.
Hello I need help , so I lost my 2004 Mini Cooper keys , I have no keys to make a copy now . My question is I don’t want to pay the dealer ship $400 for a key so I bought one from eBay and since the car has bad transmission I just need the key to lock and lock the doors I know it’s easy to sync the key remote but what is my option of cutting the key if there is no key to make a copy on , is there a way to find my car key code somewhere so I take the code to the locksmith to cut my eBay key or I have to take the lock cylinder out and take it to to the locksmith ? Or any other options please ?
Previously I have taken the door lock cylinder out and brought it to a locksmith to cut a key. Could also have them go to the vehicle for more.
If its titled in you name goto dealer and have them make you a vin matched key
So does Ace not cut keys? Why do they advertise that they do?
They do cut these types of keys... many times only a few people know how to use this machine and they aren’t always in the store.
I called Ace yesterday and they said they do but you can't bring your own key and it's $189 cut and programmed. I just want the cut and going to use FORscan to program it
@@ronniemassart3834 I ended up buying an uncut key online for $10. Got it cut and programmed at local locksmith for $60.
@@gphillimo That's an excellent price,was it a flip key/fob for that price?
@@ronniemassart3834 No it was one that has the fob and key as one piece
Have same machine but I clamp before the shoulders using them to align the keys or 'how far back to put them'.
That would work too. It really depends on the type of key being cut. If I used it more I would buy a set of blank holders specific to a manufacturer.
Great video, but what I don't understand is what's the name of the machine or manufacturer? I bought one of these machines to do simple key cutting at my shop. Please do a video on what is the correct bit for cutting what key thanks.
The model number is 368A. There are a few manufacturers that make these. As for the bits, there are not much difference between them. I use the smallest one I could on standard keys so they can get in the deep cuts. On side cut keys I'll use the largest one that will fit the cut. You just need to make sure the guide and cutting bit are the same size.
Which size bit did you use?
Get the HU101 key fixture, easier and more accurate then doing it that way with a paper spacer. Only $17 on eBay for a set of the key fixtures for the machine to make the H94/HU101 style Ford keys.
Good suggestion. I don't use this enough to start buying key adapters, but if I did, that one would work significantly better!
Good stuff🎉🎉🎉
Thanks!
Still need to program the key to the car.
Easy as pie
THE THING IS THAT WITH FORDS YOU NEED 2 WORKING KEYS TO PROGRAM A NEW ONE,,,
Yep, unless you have a key programmer or Forscan.
@@HeartlandRebuilds Sadly my forscan was chopped off at birth. never got a choice in the matter
I'm intrigued, but confused as to the "laser" part of it. Why is it called laser cutting? I need a Toyota key cut. FOB is dealer programmed already. This FOB is the backup unit to the one that came with the car. The original key has cuts on both sides of the key. Would this be possible with this type of machine? Not opposed to getting a new hobby but makes me wonder where I would get a replacement blank if I screwed the one up that came with the FOB.
You can buy just the blades that goes in those flip out style fobs rather than buying the whole thing all over again.
Just got that exact key. After programming it, the remote works great! But I took it to Home Depot and they won't cut a key that isn't purchased there.. GREEDY! GREEDY!
But it's no wonder! Home Depot sells their FOBs with built in key for $100
Exactly why I bought this key cutting machine. No business I could find would cut a key I brought them. There's no profit in it for them, hence requiring you to buy a $100 key that you can find for $20 online.
How is that greed? Aren't they a for-profit business?
@@rmsg7504 Umm, lemme think.... Home Depot sells the SAME FOB, made in China, for massively more money! How much of a profit markup do they have to make?
@@rickpontificates3406 as much as the market will bear. Did you not take economics in college?
@@rmsg7504 I know PLENTY about economics and I also know that THE CUSTOMER MEANS NOTHING to corporate America now. STOCK INVESTORS are the only thing corporations pay attention to now... PADDING THAT BOTTOM LINE and "GOLDEN PARACHUTES" for the top executives
Where did you buy it from?
I bought mine from eBay a few years ago before prices went up.
I have a 2020 Chevy Sonic. I have a spare key that is only to open the driver door. The ignition is a push button start and the key has already been programmed for that. Do I still need some kind of additional programming for the key so that it works on the door lock? Thx.
I don't quite understand the question. If you have the backup key for the door already, then you are done for making a backup. The key fob needs to be the same frequency as your car so the buttons on it work. Then you have to program the fob. The backup key is only for opening the door if your battery dies, or in some cases, you need it to start the programming of a new key fob.
Lot of time spent, locksmith might be a better way to go.
I had that machine. Sold it off and got a used Silca Matrix, problems solved. No more non working fresh cut blades.
I've had very few problems with this. I don't cut enough keys to justify the cost of the Matrix. It's an excellent machine though.
The ORIGINAL@@HeartlandRebuilds Silca MAtrix was excellent.The current on, meh.
I throw no stones at hobbyists doing favors for friends and family, cheapskating is fine. It also is how many locksmiths originally got started.
Once you get a taste of making keys accurately to code, using new remotes, not cheazo universals or refurbies, you will have fond memories of hacking it.
Enjoy the process. I started with a matrix SLX and a manual code cutting adapter, many years ago
Laser?
Great tutorial.Thanks ,nice tip.
Glad you liked it
why is it called a laser cut key when it is using a cutting bit and a spinning motor?
Side milling key doesn't sound as futuristic and difficult to make maybe?
LAZER CUT,LASERCUT, Sidewinder and other terms are just euphemisms. The are no CO2 or Fiber lasers involved.There usually are CNC machines, to cut to code, even when original key is trashed
Pretty much@@HeartlandRebuilds
Still the current option for you?
Still is. Haven't had any major problems with it. Take your time setting up and it works fine.
Do you have to cut both sides of the key?
Yes
What are the major tools someone's need before cutting any key sir?
Key cutting machine and a small file
thanks for sharing, i have the exact same machine, where did you buy the bits?
I bought the bits on Amazon.
Date key no go the top the key go second step no the Fer one
@@HeartlandRebuilds AliExpress sale £55 plus 25 delivery in fact bought the other type cutting key machine for more or less the same price as well wait for the sale only downside takes 3 to 4 weeks to come
You could of got a couple of cheap feeler gauges for a more accurate spacer than the paper but it works so that's all that matters
We're do you get one?
I got mine from eBay. Price has gone up since then.
does this work for tumbler
I've used this to cut regular keys as well
how would you know what cutter to use for what key ???????
There's different size bits. If you get an assortment, just find the one that fits the best and the non-cutting guide that matches it.
@@HeartlandRebuilds does the machine come with any bits ???
Yes, it came with a couple. I bought a larger set online in case I broke any. I chipped a bit on one of my first ones going to fast so it only has 3 edges instead of 4 now.
Nice one! Where did you find the extra cutting bits?
I found them on Amazon
Do you change the bits for different keys? Or will the same size bit work for all keys? I just ordered one of these and I have to cut keys for a 2018 Sierra, 2015 Civic, and a 2016 Fusion.
There are different bit sizes for different types of keys.
@@HeartlandRebuilds thank you, I just got it in today and yeah I know what you meant now, I just cut 2 of the 3 keys today abs changed out bits and tracers! Thanks for the quick reply!
Adapt and Overcome !
Absolutely
How did you program the key?
I have an Autel IM508 key programmer, though you can also program these Ford keys with free Forscan software for a windows PC that I did in another video.
@@HeartlandRebuilds Do all keys need to be programmed?
Cut their own keys ain't that the way it is though. You got to make some money. Somehow they did everything they wouldn't have a business but I understand what you're talking about. That's why I recommend people that ask me and tell him to go a certain place
Did the same then went on to programming the key and remotes xhorse vvd1 max works OK easy to use but still not mastered the remotes side but the cars I have Peugeot and Citroën are not that easy to do made the remotes but will not connect to the car but good video
Thanks!
Some keys you can copy the chip with the same code on it and the car will only think one key is still registered, others you will have to plug into the obd to learn the new chip id of the second fob
Man the locksmith wanted to charge me $80 just to copy/cut my dummy laser key. Robbery, what happened to the $5-10 to copy a key guys.
That's exactly why I ended up buying my own machine.
Nice defu
Location
got the same f-off from ace. thinking about going the same way
It's worth it. I've made keys for 5 different vehicles now.
@@HeartlandRebuilds what keys you used to practice once you got it? mailbox ones? :)
@@boltyk1 Nope, I just went really slow the first time. It probably took a good hour setting it up and cutting the first key.
@@HeartlandRebuilds that was brave for sure :) I need to cut some home and mailbox keys anyway, so I'll have some training time. And I have toyota - so it's not so crazy side cut as it was for your ford
@@HeartlandRebuilds During yesteryear, when computerized tooling did not exist, serious manufacturing required the services of a skilled 'Set Up Man' to prepare machinery for high precision manufacturing, who worked alongside the people running the lathes and milling machines. Such person had to not only know how to set up machines for precision cutting and milling. (S)he also had to know how various metals would 'behave' under high speed, high precision manufacturing.
Don't want to take it to a locksmith? They charge quite a bit? professional locksmiths charge for the expertise and experience. If you want it done right, get an experienced professional. Some things, yeah you can do by watching UA-cam. Others, it's worth the cost in the long run to pay an experienced pro. Watching you fumbling around with what looks like a toy? advise, go find a real locksmith. Just my cents...
Thanks for your cents. This probably isn't for you. Making your own key for 1/10 the cost of a locksmith saving hundreds may be worth it to others though.
Expertise and experience does not = high prices. Would you pay $100 for a McDonalds hamburger, because it was made from 'expertise and experience'? LOL. Locksmiths are not brain surgeons. Just middle school dropouts with low IQ and a slimy side hustle.
where did you pick this up at this price ?
Ebay - there's a few around $110-$130.
@@HeartlandRebuilds is there, for whatever reason, a certain type of key for certain Vehicle make that it won’t work on?
@@juniorsarmiento7292 possibly, I've used mine to cut copies on a few VW and Ford. I don't see why it wouldn't work for most vehicles.
@@HeartlandRebuilds I tried to get a key made the other day for a VW, and the locksmith told me my Ebay purchased key blank might 'break' his cutting bit because of excessive hardness. Of course, I think it's just hoakum to get me to buy his key blank, which was probably purchased from the same internet source as mine.
@@lorenzoparedes2306 lol, that's absurd. They make money selling you things and that is just another way to do it. Keys are not made with hardened steel, it would have been fine.
Use old key blanks instead of paper
Not a laser...
Well,... yeah. It's more of a vertical mill.
The machines called a laser.....
@@tommo6090 As in it doesn't *cut* with a laser
@@untrust2033, either English is no your first language or you're daft, because "Laser Key/Cut" is just a moniker given to said keys because of their 'laser precision'. He didn't invent the name, so go gripe to them...
So buy a machine, sort out all kinds of problems, takes hours to get it to work.... and that is somehow saving you money? I guess if you are self-employed or supported by your parents then you can have the time to do all that BS. But for most people time IS money, I know a locksmith will come over to my house cut and program the key and it takes 5 minutes of my time. I can sell a lot of product in the 3-4 hours to get a key machine to work personally I'd be losing money doing it the way this guy is.
It takes a couple minutes to cut a key. Time is money, and so is paying someone to come to the car or drive to a locksmith. If you want to pay someone, by all means do it.
@@HeartlandRebuilds I don't want to buy a machine for hundreds of dollars, sort out its problems then take 30 minutes to cut a key to "save" money. Time is money. I don't see how that saves me anything. Plus, your not even showing the process on video. How do I know you even really cut that key?? You don't show the whole process. You just made the video for monetization, there is no showing the actual process you just describe it with words. Anyone who watches this video and has half a brain can see you don't show any of the work to make the machine function or the actual key cutting. How do we know you cut it?
@@rmsg7504 I have several other videos where I made keys and recorded cutting the key if you wanted to see it being cut. The machine isn't several hundred, and it only takes a couple minutes to duplicate a key.
@@HeartlandRebuilds what are the links to those videos please?
@@rmsg7504 ua-cam.com/play/PLAobB5FwpAxr3tJ6i-89ZF_VzAwthLHqN.html This is a playlist I have had on my page for every time I cut/make/program a key.
Kaja
Hahaha 😆 what a joke this is exactly why you call a locksmith.
Thanks for you insight into cutting a key. Feel free to spend $80+ at a locksmith every time you need a key made.
@@HeartlandRebuilds, mathews.5369 is stupid & ya can't fix stupid...
Why pay a locksmith because there's alot of people who'll screw up eventually have no one to blame it upon (jk)
Well that's true. I messed up one key on a VW cutting too deep, so it's definitely possible. Key still worked, but looked funny.
Moral of the story: buy a new car 😎
Er... no.
Thanks for the video Bro I wish you would actually cut the key though so we could see how it's actually really made a real cut that we actually can see but thank you so much for the information the knowledge the free wisdom and knowledge and information using a piece of paper and loose screw and just everything Bro Appreciate it Mann...
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Thanks. I thought I had another video somewhere of cutting the key. I'll make one for one of the cars I'm working on.
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Most locksmiths would’ve cut those keys for $30-$40 each. You bought the cheapest key cutting machine. Good luck getting things working and spending more money
I've used this machine well over a dozen times without problem or spending more money. It's easily paid for itself several times.
I own a very similar machine (the DEFU 998-C) & I've had 100% success AND there are scores of videos of other folks using this same machine (or the DEFU 998-C)with a very high degree of success. Let me guess we're all just lucky... LOL
After so much modifications it seems that machine is a piece of crap...
It's worked fine for the last few years of occasional use. It doesn't come with the specific adapters for different types of keys, so you can buy them or make spacers like I did.
duplicater
your key machines from 1940 man, get a new one
You don't need an expensive/flashy key cutter to make copies. It's a simple design that works.
Why don't you buy him a new one, dummy??