I did what you said, and now have a key that turns the lock in my 29 Ford Pickup. Not quite sure I want to take this back to the shop that said they could not do it. I do not think they wanted to spend the time! Anyway, thank you, it worked. I am a retired electrician and mechanic, and followed your instructions. First key worked! Doug, Oak Harbor Wa.
Im in same boat im electrician and also have done hands on work my whole life and im gonna give this shot only thing bothers me is when pull key out it brakes inside then ill be in serious trouboe but i just got to be easy and shake little back and forth seems pretty easy but something you get better in time
Sorry to be so offtopic but does any of you know a tool to log back into an instagram account? I was dumb forgot the account password. I would love any help you can give me.
@Cory Allan thanks so much for your reply. I found the site on google and I'm in the hacking process now. Takes quite some time so I will reply here later with my results.
I just tried to get a local locksmith to make a key, I knew the profile and I recon they need to see this video as they couldn’t or wouldn’t make a key for the two barrels, I am definitely going to have a go with this technique. two days latter using this technique... I worked, I knew the blank profile , i filed it down but buffed it to a high shine and this helped identify the marks. I am looking forward to the look on the lock smiths face when I take the key to get others made.. as I mentioned the technique and he just smiled Follow up the Lock Smith was impressed "well done"
Thank you; it's always interesting seeing different approaches to impressioning. One I like to do is give the top of the key a light sandingto get rid of any coating, and then color over with a sharpie and file accordingly.
thanks for video. my local locksmith did this type of key making twice for me. they did it while I waited and it took less than ten minutes both times. both times it was ten bucks including the key. couple months ago I needed this service again but price has jumped to 30 now. the trick from the past that I saw was they used aluminum key blank which impressioned much easier.
I am a lock and key person at a school. I learned a lot about our regular locks but small locks with no key are a big problem for me. I will try this. Thank you
Good video. Those wafer locks are definitely good to learn with. I like to, once I get my first set of marks, take a thin Sharpie and mark on the side of the blank where those marks were so if I see other marks I'm not following a wild goose. The other thing I did was picked up a cheap set of jewelers' loupes. Makes seeing what's on the blank way easier.
Great video! I guess you should mention not to put too much force on the key when impressioning, you don't want to break the key off in the lock. How do you know how far to file down each spot after each impression round? A lite mark gets a tiny bit of filing down and a heavy mark gets a bit more of filing down? How do you know when to stop filing down in one spot... no mark at all?
Am very glad to discover this video, Robert. Thanks for making this. Anyway, do you mind me asking a question. Would a locksmith be able to create an impression for a door whose key is missing and cut the key?
Yeah I did this on some old locks I didn’t have a key for the first one three times nothing its a old big no5 master lock . Second one newer type with the blue band at the bottom no3 first key filed kept at it just working the hell outta it and bam it turned made two new keys to fit it off a bunch of used keys . I’m on number 5 now with the old no5 it looks like it says in black ink A631 or A531 it’s faded badly . I’ve broken a couple keys pulled them out before they were in two . I found keeping the points down between the notches helps I’d could see we’re the tumblers we’re hitting the ramps up and down . It’s a job that requires patience and skill with the ability to keep trying till you succeed. If you get aggregated to lay it down and mess with something different for a while then come back to it . It’s definitely a learning curve! Thanks for the video it’s been helpful !
Hey Roberts 👋 Thanks for this information. Very interesting and useful information. I'm a law-abiding citizen, so don't worry lol Have lots of hobbies, just collected for a closed own factory lost of keys hoping to find the relevant locks
thanks for the video, Just subscribed, what type of file is good to use, i use to have one from locksmith course took back in the 80's. the one i had was round.
What do you think about using a thin layer of red nail polish instead of the smoke? I realize you would have to wait for it to dry, but if time is not a concern, I wonder if that would make a more "obvious" impression.
I’m trying to take out the in dash ignition switch on a 1984 Winnebago with a Chevy P-30 chassis because I don’t have any of the keys that’s how I found your channel . It seems easier to just enlarge the area around the ignition switch rather than destroy the cylinder. No that I’ve seen this I’m gonna give it a try. Thanks 😊
@@Berry-McCaulkiner This is often not true. The dealers do not maintain Vin-to-key data beyond ten years. There are some special locksmith databases that can give this information. Unfortunately, most locksmiths either do not know this or will not tell you about it. They will try to sell you a "service call" where they come to your lcoation and make a key for $200 instead of making a key by code (looked up by vin) for $30.
I don’t have to throw out my padlock after all :) This is really helpful. It isn’t worth getting a pro to do it because of the cost but for the cost of a few key blanks, I think that I might just give it a go!
My ingenious mother was organizing things around the house without me knowing lown behold she threw away my entire keyset LOL good to know i have options
@@LocksmithRecommended Thank You I took a key and filed it all down and then filled it in with solder and I filed down The notches that I could see on the solder because solder was so soft and then it worked and then I made a copy of that. Thank you so much for responding to me that's a great video
Ima try it on my bike lock I have the key someweres but I’m just Cyrus on if I have the skills to do it what all would I have to do to become a lock smith what are the reqirements as for as education snd getting started and so on ? Ok thank you have good day and God Bless
Done this for years, started impressing nearly 60 years, nothing to improve, originally used a candle for the carbon trace, also have used a felt pen to get spacing
Where the mark is, do you file it down? Or leave the “bump” where it marked? I’m not sure if the mark should be the “point”, or the “hollow” in the key. I hope it’s understandable what I’m asking, I’m not sure in how to proceed.
Thanks for answering. I’m researching all I can, because I got an old motorcycle without key. The problem is that we’re I am (a very rural place), it has been impossible to find blank keys. I’m going to try cutting a key from a picture I got online and hopefully I can make it work. My first try will be with soft metal from a can, because I don’t have tools to cut harder material. Do you think it could work with some patience? Or will I be wasting my time?
could you make a tin keyblank? if i take a pieces of tin fold it in half and cut out the key with the sharp point. (the corners of the tin is were the sharp point is. so like the fake key is lift with a strong back back because its the curve of the folded tin. so you would end up with softer metal to make better makers.
I found something outside my door on the ground on the side of the door where the lock it. It looks like part of a key or something w a black elbow handle. I wish I can show a picture I want to send it to to. I dunno what this thing is and my first thought was to try to match it up w my house key. The groves in it is the same length as my key groves.
I’ll be diving into a DIY project to impression a new key for my 67 F250, an old airport stair truck from northwest airlines, unfortunately key not present.. any suggestions for applying this technique to a key with pins on both sides of the key? I’m assuming same technique applies cutting both sides same amount each time? Couldn’t source a new old stock ignition tumbler as the 67 were one year trucks with small variations to the 68. Thank you in advance!
Same process, but extremely difficult to do. You could always mail it to us and we can get you a key for it. Without risk of damaging the wafers. If you're interested contact us here. form.jotform.com/60085597700155
@@LocksmithRecommended I would be able to remove the ignition as a whole, mailing the core still inside the ignition as well as a blank to use. If that would be acceptable I can go through the link and send it out :)
Well, I've done this back in 2019 very easy, but not for door locks or cam locks. I made car door locks and then moved over from there to make an enshanine key because the old ley broke, and when we took it to a locksmith or a hard wear store to get it copied we brought it back home and tryed it out it did not work to turn the car over so I looked at the old key and the key copy and took a sharpie and traced the key depth after doing that I noticed that the copied key tip was filed down to far this was for a Chevy 2019 avio I then tried it my self with files to get it to turn the cylinder in the steering weal over or as you would calling it the enichen switch sorry I have a bad phone spell check system but after the first one I made and how time consuming it was to file it I then when back to that same hardware store and asked if near the end to not cut the last part of the key or instead I will just buy 6 blank keys and trace then key I made over to the blank key witch in return made a slite mess-up with out holding the keys to gether with a ficegrip and then marking them but the good thing I noticed it before I started filing the key so after filing the key I wire bushed it to get rid of any left over debree and I checked the inner cylinder to also see if it was dirty at all to mack shear there was not any thing gunking up the lock cylinder From Joshua rowell. Ps the store that cut the key wrong was ace hardware in Vallejo, CA, contact me if you would like, and thank you for letting me leave a comment have a nice day.
here, a 14 yr old being scolded by my older brother coz i lost the key of his bike, how am i even suppose to know what blank key am i going to use, don't even know where to get that tool to scratch/score the blank key. Is there any other easier way to do it? I just wanna replace the key so he won't talk bad to me anymore
I'm really worry that this video is for everyone including the burglars? anyway, my concern is, could this impression be done on a kwiset lock whether it's an inside or outside lock? becz, how the criminals entered my house and had keys for all that locking device, is a major question to me. thanks.
So if a neighbor got tired of having to work in tandem with other neighbors to stalk or set up a particular person like for example if one person breaks in and the other opens the door, like if a neighbor breaks in through a fire escape and unlocks the door to help others break in like if they're working in teams of 2 with kids, one dude throws a shorty over the top of a low door or something of that nature, shorty opens the door let's in another neighbor and team while another chic keeps lookout through their car then they rob or ransacked the crib and they leave the last teammate/ person locks the door and then they do the leap frog leap with a step ladder to pull eachother back over and out the door I'm thinking they need teams of 2 to 3 each so there's mad footprints around my crib as they keep coming in and out while my dad watches for them to rob me from across the street, this is to buy time while he tries to get an illegal copy of the key made from the locksmith or a nycha worker this way right this also helps ppl break into cars
I did what you said, and now have a key that turns the lock in my 29 Ford Pickup. Not quite sure I want to take this back to the shop that said they could not do it. I do not think they wanted to spend the time! Anyway, thank you, it worked. I am a retired electrician and mechanic, and followed your instructions. First key worked! Doug, Oak Harbor Wa.
I mean if someone came to me asking for me to pick a lock and I’d never tried I probably wouldn’t do it either lol. Impressive you did it yourself
Im in same boat im electrician and also have done hands on work my whole life and im gonna give this shot only thing bothers me is when pull key out it brakes inside then ill be in serious trouboe but i just got to be easy and shake little back and forth seems pretty easy but something you get better in time
This vid wasn't what I was looking for but you seem like a really nice guy and very enthusiastic about this so i'll like it anyways.
😂 Thank you!
@@LocksmithRecommended im gonna second this guy's sentiment, only i'm gonna subscribe too. cheers :)
Sorry to be so offtopic but does any of you know a tool to log back into an instagram account?
I was dumb forgot the account password. I would love any help you can give me.
@Deacon Jacob instablaster =)
@Cory Allan thanks so much for your reply. I found the site on google and I'm in the hacking process now.
Takes quite some time so I will reply here later with my results.
I just tried to get a local locksmith to make a key, I knew the profile and I recon they need to see this video as they couldn’t or wouldn’t make a key for the two barrels, I am definitely going to have a go with this technique. two days latter using this technique... I worked, I knew the blank profile , i filed it down but buffed it to a high shine and this helped identify the marks.
I am looking forward to the look on the lock smiths face when I take the key to get others made.. as I mentioned the technique and he just smiled Follow up the Lock Smith was impressed "well done"
THIS IS JUST THE RIGHT PIECE OF INFORMATION I WAS LOOKING FOR YEARS!!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you; it's always interesting seeing different approaches to impressioning. One I like to do is give the top of the key a light sandingto get rid of any coating, and then color over with a sharpie and file accordingly.
Great tip!
thanks for video. my local locksmith did this type of key making twice for me. they did it while I waited and it took less than ten minutes both times. both times it was ten bucks including the key. couple months ago I needed this service again but price has jumped to 30 now. the trick from the past that I saw was they used aluminum key blank which impressioned much easier.
I am a lock and key person at a school. I learned a lot about our regular locks but small locks with no key are a big problem for me. I will try this. Thank you
Well its been 2 years and how did that work for you?.. well don't be shy
@@Jerryclement-z3c Careful, if you want a response you don't wanna scare her away by being so pushy.
I'm a Locksmith (beginner) in Brazil and I really liked this video. Tks.
You're welcome!
is there alot of theft in Brazil ?
Right to the point,and easy to follow. Awesome vid,thanks for sharing this valuable information !🌞
Glad you enjoyed it!
Good video. Those wafer locks are definitely good to learn with. I like to, once I get my first set of marks, take a thin Sharpie and mark on the side of the blank where those marks were so if I see other marks I'm not following a wild goose.
The other thing I did was picked up a cheap set of jewelers' loupes. Makes seeing what's on the blank way easier.
Thanks for the tips!
Excellent video. Very informative and easy to follow. Thank you!
Informative and helpful, the closeups are very useful.
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you! It looks so hard
Great video! I guess you should mention not to put too much force on the key when impressioning, you don't want to break the key off in the lock. How do you know how far to file down each spot after each impression round? A lite mark gets a tiny bit of filing down and a heavy mark gets a bit more of filing down? How do you know when to stop filing down in one spot... no mark at all?
This is exactly what I was wondering. Like how do you know when to stop filing on each pin?
The nice thing about this approach is that you don't need solder or lead to make the impression!
This is beautiful how amazing thank you
16 key 🔑 blanks later and I'm 👍good to go.
Awesome.
Awesome and thank you. Very eye opening
Am very glad to discover this video, Robert. Thanks for making this.
Anyway, do you mind me asking a question.
Would a locksmith be able to create an impression for a door whose key is missing and cut the key?
Yes, but easier to pick open then rekey.
Yeah I did this on some old locks I didn’t have a key for the first one three times nothing its a old big no5 master lock . Second one newer type with the blue band at the bottom no3 first key filed kept at it just working the hell outta it and bam it turned made two new keys to fit it off a bunch of used keys . I’m on number 5 now with the old no5 it looks like it says in black ink A631 or A531 it’s faded badly . I’ve broken a couple keys pulled them out before they were in two . I found keeping the points down between the notches helps I’d could see we’re the tumblers we’re hitting the ramps up and down . It’s a job that requires patience and skill with the ability to keep trying till you succeed. If you get aggregated to lay it down and mess with something different for a while then come back to it . It’s definitely a learning curve! Thanks for the video it’s been helpful !
Great post. Thanks for watching.
Hey Roberts 👋
Thanks for this information. Very interesting and useful information. I'm a law-abiding citizen, so don't worry lol
Have lots of hobbies, just collected for a closed own factory lost of keys hoping to find the relevant locks
I just cut 2 for an 84 Alfa Romeo spider, success!
Thanks it was important information
Thank you. Great info.
You bet!
Absolutely fascinating thank you for sharing
Glad you enjoyed it
Thanks a lot , I always have curiosity to know how to.
You answered me.
Thank you, I know what to ask for regarding our motorhome now...
Excellent!!
thanks for the video, Just subscribed, what type of file is good to use, i use to have one from locksmith course took back in the 80's. the one i had was round.
We like the pippin amzn.to/41BL65K
Thank you for helping me hit my first lick you a real one
Thanks for the video. But why not just pick and decode? This way it will be much faster. You will have the key code to cut several correct keys?
The front door of my house has an old 1920s brass russwin lock that I'd like to keep ... no keys. I might as well give this a try. Thanks.
If you can't get it, have a locksmith out They'll be able to take it apart and make you a key. You can find legi) locksmiths at findalocksmith.com .
What do you think about using a thin layer of red nail polish instead of the smoke? I realize you would have to wait for it to dry, but if time is not a concern, I wonder if that would make a more "obvious" impression.
Thanks Great Video Presentation Very Clear Camera
Glad it was helpful!
I’m trying to take out the in dash ignition switch on a 1984 Winnebago with a Chevy P-30 chassis because I don’t have any of the keys that’s how I found your channel . It seems easier to just enlarge the area around the ignition switch rather than destroy the cylinder. No that I’ve seen this I’m gonna give it a try. Thanks 😊
You should be able to get a key made using the VIN number
@@Berry-McCaulkiner This is often not true. The dealers do not maintain Vin-to-key data beyond ten years. There are some special locksmith databases that can give this information. Unfortunately, most locksmiths either do not know this or will not tell you about it. They will try to sell you a "service call" where they come to your lcoation and make a key for $200 instead of making a key by code (looked up by vin) for $30.
I don’t have to throw out my padlock after all :)
This is really helpful. It isn’t worth getting a pro to do it because of the cost but for the cost of a few key blanks, I think that I might just give it a go!
Padlocks are not easy to impression and most locksmith won't sale you blank keys.
I use a black sharpie on the knife edge to aid detecting the impression marks. wash rinde repeat
When breaking into a bank, it is best..... no just kidding, great video!
I am interested in becoming a locksmith and I found this video very educational. I'm definitely subscribing.
Thanks!
Thanks for this video I am able to make a key successfully.
Glad I could help!
Thanks for the video. Can this technique be used for vehicle door locks too?
Yes, but those are the hardest to impression, imo. Takes a lot of skill. You could get a key by VIN tho.
very good video robert !
Amazing!! Thanks.
Hank Spicer Was The Master Of Impressioning Automotive Keys Back In The Day
A day late and a drilled out ignition later. It was not thinning the keys is why I failed.. thanks for the informative illustrations...
can this be used for car keys
Thanks for your sharing!
My pleasure!
My ingenious mother was organizing things around the house without me knowing lown behold she threw away my entire keyset LOL good to know i have options
I may try this
Very good
Thanks
Does it matter what side of the key you file at an angle ?
No. Just need to thin it out.
@@LocksmithRecommended
Thank You
I took a key and filed it all down and then filled it in with solder and I filed down The notches that I could see on the solder because solder was so soft and then it worked and then I made a copy of that.
Thank you so much for responding to me that's a great video
Thanks Great Video
Glad you enjoyed it
Awesome video where can I go to become a locksmith technician
You might find our article useful. www.acmelocksmith.com/blog/how-to-become-a-locksmith/
What style of
lock is that or keyword to buy it? Just a round cylinder with a arm at the end?
What file is used? Great video btw.
It's called a pippin file.
I have tried this method , but did not succeed but i believe it was due to having the wrong file. What file/s do you recommend
Pippen file
Ima try it on my bike lock I have the key someweres but I’m just Cyrus on if I have the skills to do it what all would I have to do to become a lock smith what are the reqirements as for as education snd getting started and so on ? Ok thank you have good day and God Bless
Little bit tricky but cool.
Thank you for using a pippen file!!
Done this for years, started impressing nearly 60 years, nothing to improve, originally used a candle for the carbon trace, also have used a felt pen to get spacing
Where the mark is, do you file it down? Or leave the “bump” where it marked? I’m not sure if the mark should be the “point”, or the “hollow” in the key. I hope it’s understandable what I’m asking, I’m not sure in how to proceed.
File at the mark. That is a pin hitting the key.
Thanks for answering. I’m researching all I can, because I got an old motorcycle without key. The problem is that we’re I am (a very rural place), it has been impossible to find blank keys. I’m going to try cutting a key from a picture I got online and hopefully I can make it work. My first try will be with soft metal from a can, because I don’t have tools to cut harder material. Do you think it could work with some patience? Or will I be wasting my time?
could you make a tin keyblank? if i take a pieces of tin fold it in half and cut out the key with the sharp point. (the corners of the tin is were the sharp point is. so like the fake key is lift with a strong back back because its the curve of the folded tin. so you would end up with softer metal to make better makers.
I do it daily!
Ive always wondered that, good thing the internet exists.
Pick the lock and read the pins?
Tks. For the tip.
Thanks appreciate it
Thank you
You're welcome
I have a 1998 Fleetwood bounder without entry door key locksmith says too much trouble ,don't worth his time ,what can I do
Find a better locksmith. If you were local, we'd make you a key.
I found something outside my door on the ground on the side of the door where the lock it. It looks like part of a key or something w a black elbow handle. I wish I can show a picture I want to send it to to. I dunno what this thing is and my first thought was to try to match it up w my house key. The groves in it is the same length as my key groves.
Wouldn't it be a good idea to paint the blank key to make the impression more precise?
Possibly. Never tried that one. A lot of techs us smoke by holding a lighter under the key to blacken it.
@@LocksmithRecommended A Sharpie works even better and afterwords the marker ink wipes off with rubbing alcohol.
THANK YOU!
I can see this working for wafers but does it really work for pins?
Nice
I’ll be diving into a DIY project to impression a new key for my 67 F250, an old airport stair truck from northwest airlines, unfortunately key not present.. any suggestions for applying this technique to a key with pins on both sides of the key? I’m assuming same technique applies cutting both sides same amount each time?
Couldn’t source a new old stock ignition tumbler as the 67 were one year trucks with small variations to the 68.
Thank you in advance!
Same process, but extremely difficult to do. You could always mail it to us and we can get you a key for it. Without risk of damaging the wafers. If you're interested contact us here. form.jotform.com/60085597700155
@@LocksmithRecommended I would be able to remove the ignition as a whole, mailing the core still inside the ignition as well as a blank to use. If that would be acceptable I can go through the link and send it out :)
@@branpugh Did you manage?
Thanks men
You're welcome!
Thanks I have a great padlock and chain and no more keys !
Excellent presentation. Thanks so much!
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks I have a 50 year old Honda Gas tank lock. This will help.
So how many years have you NOT put gas in that vintage antique?
Does this work for mopeds?
For a skilled and well practice locksmith yes. But ignitions are some of the hardest to impression.
Is there a cataloge a store that carry blanks or does all the stores pretty much have them.
Most of your locksmith shops will carry hundreds of different blanks.
I just lost the ignition key to my son's 96 Chevy 1500. So I will be attempting this tomorrow. SMH I can't believe Iost this key!
If you can't get it to work, call a locksmith. They'll get you going. Ignitions are the hardest to do and you don't want to damage the wafers.
So if I file it to one said maybe the impressions will be easier to get from the grease instead of denting the metal of the blank
Smoke from a match works really well. Hold a match or later under the key until it darkens.
Hey, do you guys have any DVD you sell?
We do not....yet. But it is something we are considering. Thanks for watching!
I like to much to know to make keys but I know one day I will know 🙏
Well, I've done this back in 2019 very easy, but not for door locks or cam locks. I made car door locks and then moved over from there to make an enshanine key because the old ley broke, and when we took it to a locksmith or a hard wear store to get it copied we brought it back home and tryed it out it did not work to turn the car over so I looked at the old key and the key copy and took a sharpie and traced the key depth after doing that I noticed that the copied key tip was filed down to far this was for a Chevy 2019 avio I then tried it my self with files to get it to turn the cylinder in the steering weal over or as you would calling it the enichen switch sorry I have a bad phone spell check system but after the first one I made and how time consuming it was to file it I then when back to that same hardware store and asked if near the end to not cut the last part of the key or instead I will just buy 6 blank keys and trace then key I made over to the blank key witch in return made a slite mess-up with out holding the keys to gether with a ficegrip and then marking them but the good thing I noticed it before I started filing the key so after filing the key I wire bushed it to get rid of any left over debree and I checked the inner cylinder to also see if it was dirty at all to mack shear there was not any thing gunking up the lock cylinder
From Joshua rowell. Ps the store that cut the key wrong was ace hardware in Vallejo, CA, contact me if you would like, and thank you for letting me leave a comment have a nice day.
Thank you for the comment!
here, a 14 yr old being scolded by my older brother coz i lost the key of his bike, how am i even suppose to know what blank key am i going to use, don't even know where to get that tool to scratch/score the blank key. Is there any other easier way to do it? I just wanna replace the key so he won't talk bad to me anymore
In india all locksmith make key by impression we don't pick lock , they also make yale and union lock also
Interesting
Need one for my 59 vette. But I think I'll just take the switch in.😅
A locksmith will certainly be able to do that for you. Nice car!
Great.
I'm really worry that this video is for everyone including the burglars? anyway, my concern is, could this impression be done on a kwiset lock whether it's an inside or outside lock? becz, how the criminals entered my house and had keys for all that locking device, is a major question to me. thanks.
Best to update your locks Veronica, to a system with restricted keyways. Where they are not able to get their paws on blanks to cut. Good luck.
I replaced my key locks with coded locks. No longer have key entry...believe I was broken into with use of a bump key
@@assakesomanlockman7179 --- Or just replace the very old locks that everyone in the neighborhood was given a key to in the past.
I lost the key to my cable bike lock. Is it possible to make a key replacement??? Thanks!
Should be, depending on the keyway. Also, depending on the lock, it may cost less to replace the bike lock.
@@LocksmithRecommended oh k thanks for the fast reply will look into it.
How would you do this on a lazer cut key?
Can't. That's part of the reason why those are called high security keys.
@@LocksmithRecommended so what does one do in a situation of all lost keys?
Laser cut keys
@@NeverLiftYT There are other ways we make keys. www.acmelocksmith.com/articles/replace-lost-keys/
@@LocksmithRecommended I’m interested to know how
What’s the name of the tool he used to file it down?
It's a pippin file. amzn.to/3kNew1L
Show profile of the type of file used.
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does this work for flat keys?
So if a neighbor got tired of having to work in tandem with other neighbors to stalk or set up a particular person like for example if one person breaks in and the other opens the door, like if a neighbor breaks in through a fire escape and unlocks the door to help others break in like if they're working in teams of 2 with kids, one dude throws a shorty over the top of a low door or something of that nature, shorty opens the door let's in another neighbor and team while another chic keeps lookout through their car then they rob or ransacked the crib and they leave the last teammate/ person locks the door and then they do the leap frog leap with a step ladder to pull eachother back over and out the door I'm thinking they need teams of 2 to 3 each so there's mad footprints around my crib as they keep coming in and out while my dad watches for them to rob me from across the street, this is to buy time while he tries to get an illegal copy of the key made from the locksmith or a nycha worker this way right this also helps ppl break into cars
Thanks