Are Engineers nothing without Scientists? or is it the other way around?

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  • Опубліковано 13 сер 2022
  • “Scientists investigate that which already is; engineers create that which has never been.”
    This thought provoking video will make you question whether engineers are more important to this world or scientists... We have featured two of the most influential personalities of their fields. This video shows you the point of view of Elon Musk and Michio Kaku when asked if it's science that driving engineering or it's the other way around.
    Hope you also enjoyed this video. Comment your views about it in the comment section.
    Video Credits:
    * Elon Musk: Who's Better? Engineers or Scientists? ( • Elon Musk: Who's Bette... )
    * Michio Kaku: Engineer vs. Physicist ( • Michio Kaku: Engineer ... )
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 229

  • @PointofUncertainty
    @PointofUncertainty  Рік тому +31

    What do you think... Does engineering drive discoveries and science or is it the other way around?

    • @user-lb3ex6yh9u
      @user-lb3ex6yh9u Рік тому +7

      I completely agree with the physicist there.
      After a new invention or discovery we just lose interest in it.
      It's then left to others like engineers to commercialise it.
      Viewing with a different perspective, no commercialisation would happen had the physicists not stepped in. So that's the answer.

    • @sonicmastersword8080
      @sonicmastersword8080 5 місяців тому

      Both of these responses are wrong.
      They are interdependent. You cannot have the advances of one without the other.

    • @yashJoshi-hn6bf
      @yashJoshi-hn6bf 5 місяців тому

      @@sonicmastersword8080 nope science is not dependent on engineering.

  • @istvanp2819
    @istvanp2819 11 місяців тому +39

    Both of them are totally right from their position. A good engineer is a promising physicist, a good physicist is partially an engineer.

  • @happyhomosapien3138
    @happyhomosapien3138 Рік тому +137

    Michio Kaku's explanation was on point, and it's more than enough to end this topic.

    • @PointofUncertainty
      @PointofUncertainty  Рік тому +20

      Yeah... It's like symbiosis, both needs each other in order to survive.

    • @manishneekhra4583
      @manishneekhra4583 Рік тому +8

      @@PointofUncertainty But unfortunately there are very less high paid jobs for scientists than for engineers due to which most people do engineering 😐

    • @PluetoeInc.
      @PluetoeInc. 2 місяці тому +1

      @@manishneekhra4583 which weeds out the money seekers from the pool thus maintaining a natural equilibrium between number of scientists to engineers as a specific constant ratio (i speculate)

    • @priyanshu_6969
      @priyanshu_6969 2 місяці тому

      @@PluetoeInc. whats wrong with seeking money

    • @PluetoeInc.
      @PluetoeInc. 2 місяці тому

      @@priyanshu_6969 nothing , theres nithing wrong in it , the problem is with pure money seeking zombies .

  • @silverbright8111
    @silverbright8111 Рік тому +56

    This question is Just like hisenberg's uncertainty principle

    • @PointofUncertainty
      @PointofUncertainty  Рік тому +7

      Damn True!

    • @user-eq5kb3sn3p
      @user-eq5kb3sn3p 3 місяці тому

      It's your knowledge that is incomplete

    • @PluetoeInc.
      @PluetoeInc. 2 місяці тому

      @@user-eq5kb3sn3p I kind of agree , well the line between engineers and physicists aint so blurry

  • @victornweze7230
    @victornweze7230 Рік тому +83

    ...or the physicists are just waiting for engineers to catch up.

    • @PointofUncertainty
      @PointofUncertainty  Рік тому +6

      Well... yeah maybe...

    • @victornweze7230
      @victornweze7230 Рік тому +12

      @@Mendax297 You dunce, the theories that guide the inventions have to come first. Learn to read and comprehend!

    • @TheManOfTomorrow
      @TheManOfTomorrow Рік тому +9

      @@victornweze7230 exactly! Most of the times, Engineers need the understanding of the concept to invent things that are based on those concepts.
      In case of some (not all) concepts, physicists and mathematicians can survive (Note: not talking about literal life-death survival here) without engineering and machines but engineering need both i.e. mathematics and conceptual/theoretical physics.

    • @engineer3447
      @engineer3447 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@TheManOfTomorrowyou just wrote exactly opposite

    • @Dermie
      @Dermie 10 місяців тому +1

      I am engineer so trust me, we dont need anything we just measure

  • @SaptarshiChakraborty-zo5dz
    @SaptarshiChakraborty-zo5dz 9 місяців тому +40

    In short, scientists solve the problems of engineers and engineers solve the problems of the society.

    • @lusakomwakalenga
      @lusakomwakalenga 6 місяців тому +5

      Scientist are the back bone. In that case

    • @PluetoeInc.
      @PluetoeInc. 2 місяці тому +1

      @@lusakomwakalenga I like to think it of it like a relay race , both are working with postulates/axioms are running with it to see where it leads them , engineer's axiom's are physicists theorems , altho I do think physicist runs the first lap but both are kinda the same .

    • @PluetoeInc.
      @PluetoeInc. 2 місяці тому

      @@lusakomwakalenga & dont confuse my answer to be a diplomatic one , I hate diplomatic answer and I hate hypocrisy .

  • @paulnnamdi4098
    @paulnnamdi4098 Рік тому +21

    I liked the video because of Michio Kaku and not Elon Musk. Kaku put everything succinctly as it is while Elon was just ego rambling. I studied Engineering myself.

  • @parthkhanayat420
    @parthkhanayat420 Рік тому +2

    What a beautiful video !!, Good Job Ankit

  • @attitudeprince3563
    @attitudeprince3563 2 місяці тому +5

    Computer Science Is Engineering Discipline and branch of Electronic Engineering....

  • @YloGamerPro
    @YloGamerPro 4 місяці тому +2

    We are just a Team, there is no reason to attack each other. We have the same goal, and it's to make the advancements to our world be a better place. Scientist and engineers together lead the development of the future.

    • @PluetoeInc.
      @PluetoeInc. 2 місяці тому

      I like to think it of it like a relay race , both are working with postulates/axioms are running with it to see where it leads them , engineer's axiom's are physicists theorems , altho I do think physicist runs the first lap but both are kinda the same .

  • @sanskaarsingh2669
    @sanskaarsingh2669 Рік тому +5

    Just Awesome👏

  • @nnishchit289
    @nnishchit289 Рік тому +7

    Engineers are train and physicist are the tracks

  • @TPMA_Official
    @TPMA_Official Місяць тому +1

    In short Scientist is to discover and Engineer is to create. Both must work together for the successful creation.

  • @mohdareeb3541
    @mohdareeb3541 Рік тому +2

    Bro please make video related to programming.... like its application and real life uses....

  • @rahulbasak2150
    @rahulbasak2150 Рік тому +3

    Physics and Engineering both are related and dependent upon each other , sometimes Technology gives rise to new Physics ; at the other times Physics mostly gives rise to new Technology . Both have great impact on Society .
    Example :- Wireless Communication Technology which followed the Basic laws of Electricity and Magnetism in the 19th Century.
    Another Example of mostly Physics gives rise to new Technology :- Silicon Chip which triggered the Computer Revolution in the last 3 decades of 20th Century and many more .... !!!

  • @karimmoubayed330
    @karimmoubayed330 Місяць тому +1

    Thats why i chose to take Engineering Physics for my undergraduate. We are the inventors

  • @Someonrr4458
    @Someonrr4458 9 місяців тому +2

    Both are great in their way

  • @dominicbravo9360
    @dominicbravo9360 Рік тому +7

    they are the same, government just split them so one can go to classroom and teach, one could go to laboratory to invent, research or discovered and one go to construction or industrialization for business and money making activities.

  • @pattern9271
    @pattern9271 Рік тому +15

    Bro beauty of computer science please😄

  • @kermit5948
    @kermit5948 Рік тому +3

    The idea of discovery drives scientists but the idea of invention drives engineers. And these inventions are usually from these discoveries of scientists. Not saying one thing is above the other but both are equally contributing

  • @lavyabansal9742
    @lavyabansal9742 Рік тому +17

    It is the curiosity of discovery that drives science for engineering it is the uses of it and creating something more that's what I believe.
    By the way you never told us about yourself(I just read you are going to become a engineer.)

    • @PointofUncertainty
      @PointofUncertainty  Рік тому +4

      Well... you are right! Curiosity drives everything...
      .
      .
      And about myself... I am just a student right now and I am gonna go to college this year. And I am also a National Level Coding Competition winner!

  • @alokpradhan9087
    @alokpradhan9087 11 місяців тому +4

    Engineering depend on science and science not depend on engineer.

    • @masoudsakha
      @masoudsakha 4 місяці тому

      depends. without engineering equipments, you can not do precise experiments to improve your physical understanding

    • @michealliu8969
      @michealliu8969 2 місяці тому

      @@masoudsakhaapplied physics usually create their own machines

  • @thimiranimsara9741
    @thimiranimsara9741 Рік тому +3

    Physicists found what can change the world....Engineers change the world from it.

  • @jbangz2023
    @jbangz2023 Рік тому +5

    It's both

  • @TizorPlayz13
    @TizorPlayz13 4 дні тому

    Scientists are main but we need engineers too

  • @Arunkumar-mp9fc
    @Arunkumar-mp9fc 3 місяці тому +1

    Engineer's are genius but scientist is the legend.

  • @valcartoon
    @valcartoon Рік тому

    i think both of them is great

  • @nazeerahammed3019
    @nazeerahammed3019 Рік тому +5

    Btw from which college are you from ?

    • @PointofUncertainty
      @PointofUncertainty  Рік тому +4

      I am gonna join college this year... I'll update you after JEE Advanced 😉

  • @user-fo4ys7bx3y
    @user-fo4ys7bx3y Місяць тому

    The relationship is symbiotic.

  • @KeepCalmandLoveClassics
    @KeepCalmandLoveClassics Рік тому

    It's like the Batsmen and Bowlers of any Cricket team. Or the Strikers and Defenders of any Football team. Both are equally important.

    • @lusakomwakalenga
      @lusakomwakalenga 6 місяців тому

      No we scientist would replace engeenerers any time we wished just that we lose interest fast as said in the video

  • @alokpradhan9087
    @alokpradhan9087 11 місяців тому +1

    When I very curious looking & waiting for scientists but I not feeling about on engineer.

    • @eren_yeager9927
      @eren_yeager9927 5 місяців тому

      Dude shut up you commented in this video like 10 times

  • @philhermetic
    @philhermetic Місяць тому

    The laws of thermodynamics were based on the study of the steam engine. Engineers had already built and run steam engines and locomotives without any knowledge of thermodynamics!

  • @pattern9271
    @pattern9271 Рік тому +1

    Bro computer science pls

  • @ardhendubhooshans1english906
    @ardhendubhooshans1english906 Рік тому +2

    Sheldon ain't happy after seeing this...😬

  • @Duckface998
    @Duckface998 Рік тому +13

    Engineering is a science, so the differentiation is stupid but, physicists make the world go round, engineers make the world tangible

    • @PointofUncertainty
      @PointofUncertainty  Рік тому

      Absolutely mate!

    • @yashJoshi-hn6bf
      @yashJoshi-hn6bf 6 місяців тому +1

      Engineering is not science

    • @Duckface998
      @Duckface998 6 місяців тому

      @@yashJoshi-hn6bf yes it is

    • @yashJoshi-hn6bf
      @yashJoshi-hn6bf 6 місяців тому +1

      @@Duckface998 nope it's just a different profession which uses science just like doctor, accountant.

    • @Duckface998
      @Duckface998 6 місяців тому

      @@yashJoshi-hn6bf is biology just a different profession too? After all, its an applied and simplified version of chemistry, only difference is engineering uses more physics then biology does chemistry when doing it

  • @alokpradhan9087
    @alokpradhan9087 11 місяців тому +1

    Science and Engineering is separat things, and science is studdy, research of Anything but a engineering is study of desighning, iging for use mass population.

  • @Plethoria074
    @Plethoria074 4 місяці тому

    We would slide into obscurity without the other, as an engineer, physicists are the scientists I will never slander.

  • @alokpradhan9087
    @alokpradhan9087 11 місяців тому

    Not compare scientist & engineer because they are different kind of aim .

  • @debomondal
    @debomondal 9 місяців тому +2

    Why Mask is here? Rich does not make you wise. The way he is answering is the answer from an unwise person just like common people.

  • @alokpradhan9087
    @alokpradhan9087 11 місяців тому +7

    A person will become a engineer easily but not to possible will become a scientist.

    • @eren_yeager9927
      @eren_yeager9927 6 місяців тому +2

      It's the other way around

    • @eren_yeager9927
      @eren_yeager9927 6 місяців тому +2

      I suggest you attend an English class first

    • @SteveOmnipotent
      @SteveOmnipotent 5 місяців тому +2

      ​@@eren_yeager9927It's the way he described , even though the english is terrible, it's true.

    • @eren_yeager9927
      @eren_yeager9927 5 місяців тому +1

      @@SteveOmnipotent Good luck getting employed in a high paying job

    • @eren_yeager9927
      @eren_yeager9927 5 місяців тому

      @@SteveOmnipotent You're typing this on a computer/phone designed by an engineer

  • @alokpradhan9087
    @alokpradhan9087 11 місяців тому +1

    Whome population is big in world ( scientist or engineer) then what is easy or hard, then what is more important.

  • @Comtodaddyl
    @Comtodaddyl 7 місяців тому

    Basically. A physicists work happens in the brain. And an engineer is the crafts man.

  • @Adelfuns18
    @Adelfuns18 10 днів тому

    Last century physicist did a lot of heavy lifting but todays physicist are stagnated putting all their attention and time on string theory, they need to work on something else with engineers to keep improving technology.

  • @user-eq5kb3sn3p
    @user-eq5kb3sn3p 3 місяці тому

    I am little late here, but yeah Elon is True!
    Science owes more to steam engine than what steam engine owes to science.
    What came first scientist or engineers?
    Engineers, men who invented fire or wheel were damn great engineers, physicist are just philosophers building castles in air! Their work is often useless since it has nothing to do with utility.
    What is science? Attempt to predict laws underlying some phenomenon, usefulness is not a criteria here but Novelty is.
    What is Engineering? Creating something badass that is gonna change the way we live, to design cost effective, safe and profitable artifacts is engineering, it owes nothing more to science than it owes to language. Engineering is intuition for how things work, it's passion for invention of crazy stuff. Physics owes to engineering much more than anything else.

  • @blackhole4813
    @blackhole4813 Місяць тому

    Scientists are also engineers. Engineers can't be scientists unless they do research.

  • @alokpradhan9087
    @alokpradhan9087 11 місяців тому +2

    Engineer (civil, mechanical,electrical) & scientist (physics, chemistry, biology, zoology, cosmology, ) study of universe.

  • @io2068
    @io2068 6 місяців тому +2

    A good engineer is a Great Physicists 👍

  • @railgap
    @railgap 4 місяці тому

    You based a video on this? Seriously? Don't you have homework you should be doing? Have you tried NOT being laughable?

  • @matterasmachine
    @matterasmachine Рік тому +6

    science is based on experiment. No radio - no experiments on radio. Therefore creation is first. Engineer is first.

    • @PointofUncertainty
      @PointofUncertainty  Рік тому +4

      Engineering forever! (I am also gonna become one soon)
      Cheers!

    • @AlokSingh-ld5zt
      @AlokSingh-ld5zt Рік тому +7

      Theoretical physicist who gave theory of Electro magnetic radiation are laughing sitting at a corner.

    • @AlokSingh-ld5zt
      @AlokSingh-ld5zt Рік тому +4

      Theoretical physicist who gave theory of Electro magnetic radiation are laughing sitting at a corner.

    • @matterasmachine
      @matterasmachine Рік тому

      @@AlokSingh-ld5zt you are saying bullshit. First there was faraday and and his electric engine created through retries.

    • @karmveer_singh_rajpurohitr4686
      @karmveer_singh_rajpurohitr4686 Рік тому +5

      @@matterasmachine but the engine word says about fundamental laws of physics. And an engineer never can work on anything like this he just apply the fundamentalism of physics. And finally it's about who is first it's always a scientists, they give the direction to engineers to work on the subjective.

  • @space_monkey3188
    @space_monkey3188 Рік тому +4

    Engineering is the weakest branch of science no cap fr

    • @eren_yeager9927
      @eren_yeager9927 5 місяців тому

      You're typing this on a phone/computer designed by an engineer

    • @yashJoshi-hn6bf
      @yashJoshi-hn6bf 5 місяців тому

      @@eren_yeager9927 um invented by an inventor

    • @yashJoshi-hn6bf
      @yashJoshi-hn6bf 5 місяців тому

      Engineering is not science

    • @eren_yeager9927
      @eren_yeager9927 5 місяців тому

      @@yashJoshi-hn6bf Can you read?? I said "DESIGNED" not invented, says a lot about your comprehension

    • @eren_yeager9927
      @eren_yeager9927 5 місяців тому

      @@yashJoshi-hn6bf Get your facts right, the transistor was literally invented by an engineer together with a physicist, but guess what? It was the engineers who revolutionized it where they could fit literally billions of transistor in a thumb-sized chip. Also, it's the engineers who actually design technological systems

  • @alokpradhan9087
    @alokpradhan9087 11 місяців тому +1

    Engineer are not smarter then to a poor physics student

  • @alokpradhan9087
    @alokpradhan9087 11 місяців тому +1

    Elon mask a engineer with buisness man but not great from Elbert Einstein.

  • @illusion-x8518
    @illusion-x8518 10 місяців тому +1

    PHYSICS❤❤❤😍😍😍😘😍.