DeWALT Tools Flex Torq Bit Set - WATCH BEFORE YOU BUY!!
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- DeWALT Tools Flex Torq Bit Set - WATCH BEFORE YOU BUY!!
Today we talk about a screwdriver bit set from DeWALT Tools! This is the DeWALT Flex Torq Impact Ready bit set that comes with a magnetic bit holder. Which is bit set is better from DeWALT tools? Max Fit or Flex Torq? Today we give you the answer! Make sure to watch this video before you buy!
The same amount of force is being applied to the fastener, but instead of a quick hit, it's spread out over a longer period of time. If you ask me it kind of defeats the purpose of an impact driver, losing some benefit of the impact, although its probably negligible.
This actually came to mind as I read a comment earlier!! Thanks for sharing!!
In some cases this might be better. But i think it reduces the torque. maybe similar to a torque stick.
From experience, I broke 3 standard bits while driving 10 screws through metal and into fiberglass. Found a flex bit and drive remaining 10 screws without a hitch.
Some of the force is converted to heat so a bit is lost.
Yes, this is the intuitive inclination one would have been thinking about the physical behavior of the bit. However, any movement "flex" in the bit would reduce the total amount of kinetic energy or mechanical work from the system. That energy is lost to heat. Overall it's probably minimal, less then 10% reduction if not even less. Would make for a cool test to see how much power you lose!
Hello, I am a Milwaukee guy through and through, but I found this DeWalt Magnetic driver bit set to be one of the best impact ready sets I have found thus far. Check this one out and here is the full name on how you search for it: dewalt dwa2t40ir 40-piece impact ready screwdriver set. This set makes a lot more sense than the once featured in this video, and it is a lot more versatile as well. I think you’ll find this set to be much more practical and useful. Thank you for the great videos and keep them coming please!
I have this kit it's so much better then the regular bits , my bits last longer and it helps me not strip screw heads, it is very lenient on the tool, the bit and the fasteners so it's worth the 20$ I spent on it I almost bought the regular non flex zone and I'm so glad I got the flex zone, buy one of each take it out to the field and see which one gives you more headache the proof is in the pudding or in this case lumber etc.
The magnet that comes with the Makita bit sets are amazing! It is 3 bucks by itself, but saves me from loosing screws, which does add up over time.
Yeah, I have it, I love it!!
ABSOLUTELY!
Lose,lose,LOSE
I've had the same set for two years use it every day in my wood shop and love it..
I’m glad it works for you!!
I got a magnitizer by Klien it works awesome! It’s in the electrical tool area at Depot. Magnitze anything, has a key ring so you can put it on your bag so it is readily available. Very handy!
When u have a yon of shavings in your nut driver, use play dough to get it out. I keep some in the car just for that. Tip from a sheet metal mechanic
Just buy the malco reversible 5/16 3/8 bit holder.Its the best bit holder ever.Never drops good screws
The Driven bit has a torsion design built to last, with a new tapered design that absorbs torque peaks to reduce stress at the bit’s tip. This allows it to handle a new generation of higher torque impact drivers. This is what I came across while looking into a 40 pc Bosch branded bit set I had bought at Lowes. At 20 dollars I couldn't pass it up. So far they seem to be very well made and they are well machined . Every bit I have use so far has fit whatever fasteners I was using really well. I have yet to snap a bit so far, I even went as far as seeing how far I could bury a screw. To my surprise I broke the head off screws without any damage to the bit. I am also guilty of not paying attention to my angle sometimes when driving screws and every now and then I'll let it slip in the screw head . Often after a handful of times doing that most bits get pretty trashed. Impressively I have failed to ruin a bit so far do to my negligence 🤣 if you haven't I'd definitely check out the Bosch bit sets. I would recommend the set I have to anyone in a heartbeat.
tip, you should spend the extra few dollars and get the one with the 3/8 and 1/2 impact sockets in it. use that set everyday, the sockets are a very handy thing to have. never have used the metal sleeve thing though.
You can use the sleeve with the longer bits as a stand alone without the other adapter
was waiting for him to do that but he missed it.
Hey Vince. Picked up a new 35pc DeWalt bit set(DWAM135) this past weekend. Has a new see through lid. Pretty helpful if you have multiple bit sets. They call the new case the "Tough Case+". These cases stack on top of each other an lock in place like the toughsystem tool boxes. Doing this unfortunately eliminates the benefits of having see through lids. The kit includes the sleeve you just got as well as a smaller yellow sleeve. Looks just like your max fit yellow sleeve. This yellow sleeve magnetizes the 2.5 in Flex Torq bits as well as the shorter 2 in max fit bits. Its a little tricky to get the sleeve to go over the longer Flex Torq bits, but it works. Just wanted to let you and the gang know that these longer Flex Torq bits can be magnetized.
Yooo thanks for the heads up on these Semper Fi !!
No problem. My receipt has sku:885911503983. Picked them up a the Depot in Las Vegas last weekend. Just came back from my local Depot (So Cal) and the set they have doesn't have the see through lid and it doesn't look like they lock together/stack-able. The bit container inside is round and the one I have is square. Other than that, they contain the same bits. I might have got lucky and got the newest design cases. Keep up the good work!
Vince I used that same bit holder and it's pretty nice, at first. When you use it over after a week or two on the jobsite the circular magnet on the sleeve holder end breaks and chips very badly, eventually falling out. Once it falls out it's back to the depot to buy another for $10. I would much rather have the magnetic sleeve over this.
Whoa $10 really?
Get a bit magnetizer for the longer bits, 🤷♂ problem solved. 👌 I magnetize all my longer driver bits as soon as I get new ones.
The biggest deal with the Flextorq bits is longevity. This bits are meant to last up to 5x longer than others do to the fact they aren't harden the same way. When using Flextorq very little energy is lost, but the business end of the bit, gets de-stressed allowing better maintained contact with the fastener and lessens the chance of hopping, which we all know is why most bits fail. There are pros and cons to everything. If the drill does it's job as advertised then the speed difference isn't felt or noticed. BTW I subbed up to ya today, I like the cut of your jib, "aka I dig the channel and what you're doing." I bet people are asking what's a "jib" now? Being a grey haired Millwright and now working for Lowes teaching about tools I hope I can help out and let your followers know about great specials that are going. If not on specials I'll try to lend my expertise to tools that you and others have questions on. Just not nail guns lol. Nail guns are not in a Millwrights wheel house.
There is a magnetic sleeve in that 35 pcs. Set! It is with one of the Philip screw driver bit if you look more carefully! It is just black instead of yellow like the 30 pcs. Set
I actually have one of the older FlexTorx sets that actually came with a similar sleeve that the max bits have. It will only fit over the 2" bits and give it a magnetic tip. Also it is made out of metal. I'm surprised that it's no longer included in the current generation of bit sets.
Short version limits the maximum torque at the bit/fastener interface and flattens the curve lbft/time.
The flex torque zone or "shaft" between the bit tip and the hex end twists elastically over a certain torque value for example 10,000 lbft. so if you put 11,000 lbft of torque your fastener would get 10,000lbft and the shaft would deflect 1000lbft. now because it is elastic when you stop putting in torque the shaft will untwist putting the force from the shaft twisting into your fastener. I do not know what the shaft is rated at, but your fastener will see the torque applied minus minor heat losses, but it will not see the max torque applied if over the shaft value. it will spread the excess torque out over a time and flatten the top of the curve which will make it less likely to shear or damage the head of the fastener. I would consider it to be effective on most low torque screws, but I wouldn't use it on longer and thicker bolts and screws(3/8 lag) as you with probably plastically deform the shaft.
The magnet I got fits the 2 inch perfectly no need for extension
I've been using the makita gold 5/16" non magnetic for about 3 months now. It uses a spring instead of a magnet.Its It's nice because I dont have to clean out metal shavings and hold good. Also I like the Makita gold #2 bits. Snug fit and I use them primarily in my impact into metal and they last.
Vince you always mention your knife. It would be cool to see a video on EDC knives you use in your life and why those knives are good versus others. You're a cool dude, it'd be cool to see your opinion on that topic.
I have a playlist for that, check it out : ua-cam.com/video/prNaDmM93tw/v-deo.html We can do more if you'd like?
Hey Vince, I think the better impact bit set is the DWAMI35. It comes with the screw locks for the 1inch and 2.5inch bits.
Imma check it out thanks Joseph!!
I bought a Craftsman set at Lowes instead, glad I made a good choice. Thanks for the honest review boys and tool lady!
Haha thanks fatbuddycat!!
Nothing beats Dewalt!
This channel is so darn good. I'm not even into tools at this level but I'm in the process of getting geared up and I can cut through so much research by watching this channel. They should do guns and other stuff.
you guys in the states really need to get on the Robertson screws. no mag required to hold the screw, for most things
I agree. When i was i was working on my RV, that's all that it had and never realized how easy it is to work with!
I would love to see some videos of you guys on the job sites
Look at our commercial construction playlist!
They come with aluminum sleeves with magnets but you have to look for them, i like them a lot and for some reason I feel they fit better the head of the screw compared to the other ones.
I’ve seen them , never picked that one up!!
I couldn't figure out their new magetic sleeve at 1st, but when I did, it slides over the longer bit, up to the tip, if you then put a screw on it, you almost can't knock the scew off the bit! I actually don't care for most overpriced Dewalt stuff, but I ran a assembly for Home Depot's building all the grills, patio stuff, sheds, ect. We used all Ryobi, especially because of the magnet on the drills, price point, same battery platform, ect. But if we had the Dewalt bit with the sleeve that locks in at the tip, we would have had a lot less dropped screws. I always use a longer bit holder with a short bit, for the most magnetic strength, but even still if you bump that screw into something it will get knocked off or be hanging on your bit, with this Dewalt 2" locking sleeve, you almost can't knock the screw off, the one downside is to switch bits, you have to get the sleeve on and off the bits, instead of dropping a bit in the tip of a bit holder, so once you learn how to work this thing it's awesome it came with no instructions that I saw except for a picture and once you break it in it becomes easier and easier to do
Your a smart man i really like the videos .I work with individuals that don’t care or listen and I have to teach them about tools and safety
Thanks Jody we appreciate it!
My magnet works well with the 2 inch black bits.... I think what the kits are doing is providing a holder for both bits ... as many people prefer one or the other... it could be there are different holders for different lengths bits. My mag for 2 inch is metal and chrome color. And shorter. I have the yellow one and a different one for short bits... but can exactly remember all the versatility off the top of my head.
I bought a ten pack of the 2 inch number 2 Robby bits over a year ago and it's still almost full. I dont know if they are too loose or too tight but when I drive a deck screw or wood screw with them I can hardly get them back out of the screw. I can drive a wood screw into a door hinge and just let go of my impact and it will just hang there and wont fall off. I have e to move the impact back and forth a bunch to release it. If I pull a screw out of something with these bits I have to pull out my hammer and smack the screw back and forth to get the screw off. Not just once or twice like three or four times. They are garbage
It has to lose torque. I use torque sticks that are built with the same principals and are rated at varying torque rates depending on shank size.
Someone did an experiment on UA-cam with Makita Gold using a torsion bit-holder and a torsion bit and found that it was slower by 0.4 of a second. It makes a difference if you're putting in a whole load of screws.
Yooo Milto that’s good information thanks for sharing!!
@@VCGConstruction No problem glad to have helped.
The fact that we are only torquing screws... we don't need the full 150 plus ft pounds the impact has. We use hi speed gear as the gun will not meet much resistance even when sinking screws... but if its metal then I could see a twist action working well with impacting.
The flex Zone is has a lower shear strength but has better longevity bc it it's affected by metal fatigue as much as regular bits as well as the tip being less prone to stripping but max fit bits are stronger for high torque applications.
Vince do you have a video about why you would not want a magnetic bit holder? I only use magnetic bit holder and see guys using 2 in bits with no magnetic anything and wonder why? They always have to hold the screws in place. Maybe I’m missing something.
They make another version of the flex torq kit that has a magnetic sleeve for the 2” bits, but it doesn’t work on the 1”/bit holder. Too bad they don’t have both in the kit. Gotta say that version you have looks sweet, ideal setup with both 👍
I’ll have to check out the other!!
Thanks for the video. I think the same like you if I’m on the work side i need so often the magnetic one for the screws if I wouldn’t have it i would go mad.
👍🏻
Maniwaki, Quebec Canada in the house!!!
Yooo we have Canada in the house AY? What up Chris?
@@VCGConstruction
I'm thinking of doing a tool fight between a brand new gen 3 Milwaukee m12 impact driver vs a well used Dewalt DCF 887 20v driver...
I think it's actually a pretty close match up.
What you think Vince? Interesting?
Maybe Use the yellow magnet adapter you showed with the other kit on the longer flex bit? A kit of 2” flex bits I bought last year came with one. I haven’t noticed much difference between the max and flex bits the times I’ve used them. I actually just figured the flex bits were much like their counterparts of Milwaukee’s longer bits. I really like the max fit right now. That said, I’ve yet to see the kit with the adapter you have shown here. Will have to check it out. Thanks for the heads up and stay safe all.
I tried the yellow on the 2 “ flex torque, I don’t work but good suggestions!!
Lol, I also tried that this morning along with trying it on the longer Milwaukee bits. Agree, failed miserably. What I also failed to notice before was how much thicker the longer max fit bits are than the flex bits on the narrow shaft of bit. Also I misquoted as the yellow accessory came with 5 dewalt 2" max fit and not flex bits. So much for suggesting anything late at night, lol. Thanks to Vince and all the VCG gang who help put out the videos. Stay safe.
We need that “flex zone” Vince. The power of these impacts causes a lot of wear and damage. Not only to the bit itself but to the tool.
The most common part of course is the business end where it meets the fastener. “Flex zone” helps that from wearing out too soon.
The hex Area of the bit. “Flex zone” helps that from getting all boogered up too soon and slipping out.
The tool itself. Which one would you rather use? A solid one that may damage or wear the anvil prematurely or a “flex zone” that may help? Just my speculations on that. I don’t want to get to scientific on it. I just think it’s the way to go with these newer impacts.
Thanks For the very scientific breakdown ABD!!
there is a little silver collar that comes with some of the flex tore sets that slides over the end to magnetize the 2”+ bits same as the old set you had there
I bought a 40 pc flex kit from dewalt the other day. Came with a metal magnetic screw holder. It was $30 though. We’ll see today at work how it holds up
For Sheetrock you should always use a screw gun… that said if you don’t own a screw gun and are just a general contractor, the silver-ish flex torque sleeve is very nice for PH2
I’d still prefer a Drill most of the time over an Impact Driver but sometimes the drill is just better for some things… like getting less tired lol
Have you seen the nut driving bit from Dewalt that you can push a button and force the magnet out off the bit and take away the shavings?
That is pure genius i guess.
I think the bits are allmost perfekt thees days in the top brand anyway but expensive.
My problem this days are more the screws that often brake if i go to hard with an impact driver.
When is VCG gonna do a review of the DCF885? Curious to know what you’re thoughts are. Thanks!
We’ll get on it!
O flex-torque bits are for when you overdrive a screw and it lets the bit rotate (flex) before breaking the bit. I doubt much use in wood applications, but I could see this in overdriving screws into metal...
You're not going to lose any Torque from a bit that is flexing unless that bit remains flexed but think of it as a pencil from back in the day when you played pencil break in elementary school and you would been that pencil back and flick it onto another pencil well if you could get your pencil to bend or Flex before letting go of it to pop that other pencil you would get more Force applied to your buddies pencil that you're trying to break rather than if your pencil did not Flex or bend before letting it pop your buddies pencil. So if you get any flexing or bending or twisting action in the torsion Zone of the bit and it snaps back you will most likely get added torque
Ahhhh now I got it Jason! You have a gift my friend!!
@@VCGConstruction insight and or knowledge does little good without somebody to ask a question
What the best drill and impact bites (magnetic)? Please do a video.
I likes That, I use the sleeve for 2 in boys and longer but for 1 in boys I use a magnetized bit holder, but that includes in the dry you are presenting looks great. I love dewalt boys as they have a great fit, better than milwaukee's and I am a Milwaukee guy, but didn't like their bits as much. Greetings.
Hey Salvador hello!!
Maybe it's engineered specifically for the Smokin 887. More flex for reduced stress. Less stress means it's less likely to smoke.
Now that’s a thought!!
Love your videos. I have learned so much and you have such an approachable style. Funny, entertaining, real and down to earth. Love it! Thanks for doing them. +1 sub!!
Thanks Cuz, we appreciate it!
Can you link a website to your exact Spiderco knife? I like the design and the color.
Those bits ar for hard wood. They reduce the risk of shear a screw by smoothing the torque applied to the fasteners
I love the flex torque kits. But the only bummer is is that there is always long philps. But rarely long torque(star) bits. You can buy them separate but.......
I use long t20 bits alot. And either loose or break them on a jobsite
I hate using the bits that are held in lace magnetically, especially square drive(the dewalt kit) i have lost a few bits down walls when puitting in flush boxes, because the bit is torqued into the head harder than the magnet holds it. so I just use 2 inch bits unless I need a long reach
The flex tip goes in from behind the magnet adapter, holding and preventing , within reason, puncturing the paper. It's hard to disassemble though.
Then put the long bit directly onto the chuck.
You could but it won’t be magnetized !!
@@VCGConstruction I think that you are right, the longer drill bits are for window dressing.
It looks like the bit holder with the metal ring from your previous video is for the long bits, and the bit in your 35 piece kit is just for the short bits.
That's a specific kit....there are other ones that have the max fit accessory that slips over the head of the 2in and 3in Torq Flex bits and magnetizes them the same as it does in the Maxx fit kit.... you just have to look for the specific kit
I’m gonna need to look for it because this kit was definitely not my favorite!!
I JUST bought this kit at Lowes cause they cut the price in half. $20 to $10.
Well that makes it worth it even if you don’t need one.never hurts to have a spare or one for a tool bag.
Hello from Australia , Your right Vince lm with you , just maybe one day soon even if the the suppliers listen to the people and actually make the flex torque bit magnetic, yes its a long shot l know but the future is near, have they the technology hope so.
Check out the Dewalt "Max Impact" line of bits in the black cases. They claim to be 50x's stronger.....would love to see how they compare with other bit sets.
I’ll check em out!!
I’ll take a stab at the physics problem. :). Torque produced by the hammer and anvil in the driver is applied in a short time period producing certain amount of power. And transferring the same amount of power through the flex bit which extends the amount of time power is applied to the screw head when it flexes, the resulting torque applied will be less compared to a more rigid bit. But hey, i may be off base here.
You just inspired a great idea with your comment, I now have a theory!!! I may need to make a video on the breakthrough, thanks Cuz I appreciate it!!
I just bought Irwin double sided bits that came with a magnet adapter that fits 2 inchers.
Sweet
I use a lot of Irwin bits an their wood bore bits .an Bosch
What do you like better the Irwin or Bosch?
@@VCGConstruction actually like both but in my area more variety of Irwin bits available
Bosch for my sds of course..ha
I never had any luck with DeWalt bits at all but I never have used this product May roll the dice on it
Dude. Run the 2 in bits through a magnatizer. Boom done. I do it with my Milwaukee drill kits.
Good call!
I do it with all my bits and screwdrivers once in a while to keep the magnetism or make them magnetic if they are not. Also, it is easy to demagnetize them if needed.
will the magnetic part fit directly over the 2" bit?
Nope tried!!
I have a DeWalt impact ready kit with magnetic adapter for 2 and 3 inch bit
They make that magnetic sleeve for the flex torque 2 inch bits as well
Do they sell it at the big boxes, which one?
@@VCGConstruction home depot look on the app
Can you do a flexvolt Vs normal DeWalt batteries? I put a flexvolt on my impact the other day, seemed faster. Bit heavy though
Great idea! Thanks dude!
Vince, some of the work I do is around electronic devices. I love using a magnetized bit in construction but such a bit can destroy electronic components. Love your show and the enfo. you and your team give us.
What kind of electronics do you work on, would you use skit like this?
@@VCGConstruction Hey Mr. Vince. I work on anything from computers to co2 industrial lasers. Most of the IT cards can be damaged by magnetic fields. Sad but true.
@@VCGConstruction Sorry for the deley. I actually have almost all of the bits that big D makes. but my tools are Milwaukee and Motabi with a few Dewalts thrown in.
Great videos. Gotta check out the DEWALT 1/4 in. Hex MAXFIT Pivot Holder. It works well and secures bits....maybe too secure though.
Yes there's a loss of Torque. In essence your cold working the metal and eventually will break. The theory is sound. I'm going to have to pick up a kit
Thanks for the feedback Jeffrey!!
That kit is badass. Its more secure than jusy a regular magnet. U know it and i know it
Have you tried bosch bits I think they are pretty good
I think that it you put only the sleeve directly on the long bit it will do what you want?
Sorry cuz it didn’t work!!
Oh well ;0)
Which one of the two do you prefer from DeWalt maxfit or flex torq
Maxfit all day!!
I use regular bits on an impact driver, it breaks the screw head of it's screw. Im using general purpose screws. I believe the flex part makes it so that it dont cause my issue. So yes you do lose the power.
What kinda impact driver do you use?
@@VCGConstruction Milwaukee Gen 3. I was using general purpose screws on pressure treated 4x4 lumber and didnt have decking screws to build some planters for the wife.
too many names watched 2 of your videos just now other one was about the clear cover boxes now totaly confused all i know is clear box for $10 would work for me at a good price
I’m new to the trades and new to your channel. I’m trying to learn as much as I can about tool brands. Are you guys in the philly area too?
Thanks for clarifying the information. I saw the set at Lowe's for $34.98 for 40 piece flex torq set. Then Amazon has the 40 piece set for $19.99. Going with Amazon
Do you use Ken Onion sharpeners to sharpen your knives?
In the description can you add the number who carries it and the price?
So its a torque stick?
What about the new Max Impact Line??? I’m at Home Depot and Lowes today and can’t decide between MaxImpact or MaxFit! Nothing online about MaxImpact either... hate Dewalt’s marketing bullshit!
I was going to buy that set yesterday.
Good thing you didn’t cuz!!
If it wasn’t for the Milwaukee sales rep, I would have.
You might like Irwin impact bit set 1903766 got it at Ross for 13 dollar lol it come with the magnet piece similar to dewalt max fit
Thanks Wildcat!
Maybe you can slip the yellow mag sleeve over that 2 inch bit & it'll work just as fine. It'll look kinda funky with both sleeves, but it'll work lol.
Careful Vince, those new DeWalt bits run hot and catch fire 🔥
🤣🤣🔥🔥
Torque loss would be minimal. Less chance of a snapped bit.
Roger that Handy!!
Vince fun videos Man i like your videos
Funny cuz I saw that kit in lowes this morning and was thinking of VCG
Did you get it?
If you put a twist zone in an impact bit wouldn’t that short-circuit the whole point of an impact driver......
English below......
No veo que DeWalt haga promoción de sus productos con sus características sólo, veo que personas hagan los reviews de los productos.
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I don't see Dewalt making videos about their own products and features, just people like you Vince and others making reviews and test only.
Saludos.
Regards!
This way, is cheaper to them. They dont spend money with this and we can keep watching Vince and our VCG. The best.
De esta manera, es más barato para ellos. No gastan dinero con esto y podemos seguir viendo a Vince y nuestro VCG. El mejor.
Pro tip on cleaning the nut runner is to use some tacky puddy like HVAC gasket to pull the shavings out.
I just bought this kit after work today lol
I bought the dewalt ratcheting screwdriver that has but storage in the handle, but it doesnt hold them so as soon as you open it they fall out. Lost all my phillips head bits
What the heck?
@@VCGConstruction
DWHT69233
Its a pretty neat screwdriver, but the storage in the handle is crap, at least on the one i got. The bits wont fit all the way into the slots.
I do like the screwdriver, it feels good in the hand and the ratchet feels solid. Its just the storage in the handle thats dissapointing to me
I go by the rule of: The more verbiage, the more it's aimed at the DIY market.
Pro's know what works, so they don't need the reading material!
Yo Vince How about TORSION bits LIKE A TORSION BAR a what?
At 140 ft/lbs of torque coming out of my Kobalt 24 volt 1/4" impact wrench, if there's any loss at all on the longer bits, it would not make any difference.
Barry
Does it reverse?