Falcon's Marathon Chase - Racing Pigeons VS. Raptors (Ep.3)

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  • Опубліковано 11 січ 2024
  • Please watch in 4K. This was a long chase by the falcon. The pigeons went very high in the sky so the falcon was determined to eat. The chase was more than 1 hour long. The day before I fed them a too big racing mix percent and too many grams per bird.
    00:35 - After the initial breaking attack, the pigeons group back in the flock while "racing" with the falcon in a straight line.
    01:39 - A hawk attack - this year there were many hawk attacks like this, high in the sky (falcon style), and rarely ambush attacks.
    01:52 - Vertical falcon stoop in the middle of the flock, choosing the pigeon that remained in the falcon's path. This was Coronita, a 7 years old female and she got back with a few missing tail feathers. She did mistakes almost every winter but somehow she manages to survive.
    02:45 - You can see the annoying hawk waiting under the flock while the falcon chases them, hoping to attack a pigeon that escapes from the falcon and dives to the loft... this is how many losses happened. The best pigeons stay in the flock until the end and come home as a flock.
    03:00 - The falcon's "jump" through the air, I've filmed this several times over the years... it is an extraordinary move it does, the pigeons must be extremely careful and with fast reactions to avoid this kind of unexpected attack.
    03:44 - Unfortunately here I missed one of the most impressive scenes of this winter. When the falcon dropped down after that pigeon, the pigeon did about 10 tricks in the air to avoid being taken and getting close to the ground it did a final crazy manoeuvre because the second falcon was coming horizontally trying to catch it (maybe the female or the competitor falcon because then the first falcon left immediately and was screaming). The pigeon is a few months old and is a grandson of Coronita. It got a few missing tail feathers like her. Unfortunately when they got out of my camera frame at that extraordinary speed and zoom, I had no chance of finding them in the sky and refocusing.
    04:11 - With pressure over the flock, only the most fit, healthy and calm pigeons can keep the sync with the flock and this makes it easier for the falcon to select a target that he has more chances to catch.
    05:53 - After about one hour, more than 50% of the flock already separated and dropped to the loft, one by one, risking to be taken by the female falcon or the hawks. The best of the best pigeons remained in the clouds as a tight flock to fight with the falcon and it had a hard time separating them again.
    07:58 - Whenever I go to the loft and call them, they drop from the sky. I must be careful to do that when there is no hawk waiting to ambush but sometimes I fail. In the very difficult days, once they land at the loft, I must call them in extremely fast, we have a few seconds before the hawk arrives from the forest to ambush.
    This was one of the hardest days. Besides the missing feathers in Coronita and her grandson, 2 youngsters were taken: one at the beginning of the chase (son of Coronita, as I mentioned the family has a weakness) - the falcon gave it to the female falcon and then went to get one himself. He spent more than an hour to get the second one very high in the sky (sometimes invisible even on max zoom) - the second taken was a pied, one of the biggest and heaviest of the youngsters. 15 taken so far this autumn and winter (from hundreds of combined hawk +falcon attacks).
    Thanks for the soundtrack: tunetank.com
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  • @Pigeonmaniacom
    @Pigeonmaniacom  6 місяців тому +11

    This was a long chase by the falcon. The pigeons went very high in the sky so the falcon was determined to eat. The chase was more than 1 hour long. The day before I fed them a too big racing mix percent and too many grams per bird.
    00:35 - After the initial breaking attack, the pigeons group back in the flock while "racing" with the falcon in a straight line.
    01:39 - A hawk attack - this year there were many hawk attacks like this, high in the sky (falcon style), and rarely ambush attacks.
    01:52 - Vertical falcon stoop in the middle of the flock, choosing the pigeon that remained in the falcon's path. This was Coronita, a 7 years old female and she got back with a few missing tail feathers. She did mistakes almost every winter but somehow she manages to survive.
    02:45 - You can see the annoying hawk waiting under the flock while the falcon chases them, hoping to attack a pigeon that escapes from the falcon and dives to the loft... this is how many losses happened. The best pigeons stay in the flock until the end and come home as a flock.
    03:00 - The falcon's "jump" through the air, I've filmed this several times over the years... it is an extraordinary move it does, the pigeons must be extremely careful and with fast reactions to avoid this kind of unexpected attack.
    03:44 - Unfortunately here I missed one of the most impressive scenes of this winter. When the falcon dropped down after that pigeon, the pigeon did about 10 tricks in the air to avoid being taken and getting close to the ground it did a final crazy manoeuvre because the second falcon was coming horizontally trying to catch it (maybe the female or the competitor falcon because then the first falcon left immediately and was screaming). The pigeon is a few months old and is a grandson of Coronita. It got a few missing tail feathers like her. Unfortunately when they got out of my camera frame at that extraordinary speed and zoom, I had no chance of finding them in the sky and refocusing.
    04:11 - With pressure over the flock, only the most fit, healthy and calm pigeons can keep the sync with the flock and this makes it easier for the falcon to select a target that he has more chances to catch.
    05:53 - After about one hour, more than 50% of the flock already separated and dropped to the loft, one by one, risking to be taken by the female falcon or the hawks. The best of the best pigeons remained in the clouds as a tight flock to fight with the falcon and it had a hard time separating them again.
    07:58 - Whenever I go to the loft and call them, they drop from the sky. I must be careful to do that when there is no hawk waiting to ambush but sometimes I fail. In the very difficult days, once they land at the loft, I must call them in extremely fast, we have a few seconds before the hawk arrives from the forest to ambush.
    This was one of the hardest days. Besides the missing feathers in Coronita and her grandson, 2 youngsters were taken: one at the beginning of the chase (son of Coronita, as I mentioned the family has a weakness) - the falcon gave it to the female falcon and then went to get one himself. He spent more than an hour to get the second one very high in the sky (sometimes invisible even on max zoom) - the second taken was a pied, one of the biggest and heaviest of the youngsters. 15 taken so far this autumn and winter (from hundreds of combined hawk +falcon attacks).

    • @JASPREETSINGH-ms5hp
      @JASPREETSINGH-ms5hp 6 місяців тому +3

      Your editing makes it worth watching every second of the video
      Woah...close shave at 1:53
      The fav part, victory laps of pigeons in the end from 6:11 around their predator. Staring their enemy down , defeating it and celebrating their victory 💕

    • @TPowellTipplers
      @TPowellTipplers 5 місяців тому

      Wow. Thanks for this breakdown and sharing.

    • @rickfunny3583
      @rickfunny3583 4 місяці тому

      I appreciatie very much that you accept that the falcon sometimes catches one of your pigeons in return for the excellent training they get. Thank you very much for sharing. I regularly enjoy your video's.

  • @michaelwhitman1247
    @michaelwhitman1247 6 місяців тому +6

    The skies of Romania proclaim that 2024 will be the year of the pigeons 🇷🇴 ❤🕊

  • @Myke-ix2ui
    @Myke-ix2ui 6 місяців тому +3

    Best breed I ever seen in my life. Brother you should create a bloodline and make it famous. Anyone watching your video and know pigeons can testify to that. I’ll be your first customer.
    THE PATRIOTS

  • @chciprianionut4289
    @chciprianionut4289 6 місяців тому +2

    Sir it's always a pleasure to see videos like this. Simply wonderful. Great job. Congratulations.

  • @scoopadoopy
    @scoopadoopy 6 місяців тому +5

    Wow such beautiful footage! I love the diving manouvers the pigeons make to get away. I also like the way you zoom out to show us how high they really are. It's amazing what fights are happening high in the sky away from the naked eye. Thank you for your hard work and sharing it with us!

    • @Pigeonmaniacom
      @Pigeonmaniacom  6 місяців тому

      Thank you. Glad you like it. Spending hours filming to select a few scenes. Indeed, I am fascinated by what happens up there and I thought people should see.

  • @stevenmaniacup1303
    @stevenmaniacup1303 6 місяців тому +3

    Good morning☀️🌕🌏🇵🇭🔥🎊😅

  • @OuseynouDia-zp9ih
    @OuseynouDia-zp9ih 5 місяців тому +1

    Merci ❤❤😊

  • @SinanDoner-ho4gx
    @SinanDoner-ho4gx 5 місяців тому

    Teşekkürler çok keyifli bir video olmuş.

  • @ionescuandrei8930
    @ionescuandrei8930 6 місяців тому +2

    Multumim pentru adrenalină, Andrei! Despre profesionalismul echipei de gladiatori și al antrenorului...no comment...it gets better and better every season!🎩🎩🎩🔝🔝🔝

  • @Calliber84
    @Calliber84 6 місяців тому +2

    We been waiting to see ur champions beat the so called fastest. ❤

  • @ditty96
    @ditty96 6 місяців тому +2

    Another amazing video! I always stop what I am doing to watch your thoroughbreds in the sky.👏

  • @haroonhidayat
    @haroonhidayat 6 місяців тому +2

    Wow that was thrilling
    The landing made me jealous tbh..... And at the same time reminded me of the person on fb claiming his Pigeon's discipline 🤣🤣🤣

  • @blancloft
    @blancloft 6 місяців тому +3

    Spectacular! I'm amazed by how high and how tight your pigeons flew in the sky and how fast they regrouped after being broken up by the falcon. Nice job as always! Chapeau!

    • @Pigeonmaniacom
      @Pigeonmaniacom  6 місяців тому +1

      Thank you.

    • @blancloft
      @blancloft 6 місяців тому

      @@Pigeonmaniacom Also what's the loss percentage of young birds vs old birds? I guess more experienced birds will have a better chance to escape falcons/hawks once they have gone through the first season as young birds as long as they are healthy?

  • @ernest3459
    @ernest3459 4 місяці тому

    Wonderful.

  • @user-jy8ol5ni6s
    @user-jy8ol5ni6s 6 місяців тому

    It's kind of fantastic.

  • @chciprianionut4289
    @chciprianionut4289 6 місяців тому +2

    Lovely.
    I want to see this kind of action myself, but my pigeons IF they see the hawk once or twice a day.
    Rarely the hawk waits for the pigeons in a walnut tree 30-35 meters away, and when they want to land, it attacks them. twice he kept my pigeons flying until almost nothing could be seen. And once some of the pigeons spent the night... who knows where. 3 pigeons disappeared then.
    anyway, there are no falcons here. Sometimes I wish it was. to see some longer follow-ups. The hawk chase them only a little.

    • @Pigeonmaniacom
      @Pigeonmaniacom  6 місяців тому

      Yup, that's the most annoying thing about the hawk, waiting for them to come to the loft and ambush. This is why I call them in so fast after they arrived, sometimes we have just a few seconds before the hawk arrival, just like you say. If repeated several times, the pigeons can keep flying in the night, that is horrible, especially in winter. This is why I only let them out at 14:00 and usually call them in at 15. With all the hawk problems at 17 there's still some light, just in case.

    • @chciprianionut4289
      @chciprianionut4289 6 місяців тому +1

      When it happened that the night caught some of my pigeons in flight... the day before, I fed them before release. But I let them go at 12.. I didn't think they would fly so much anyway.
      Now, I let them out in the morning around 8:30-9, and feed them after they come in. This is the rule now, to make sure that they do NOT have a lot of energy.

  • @bayramsimsek
    @bayramsimsek 6 місяців тому +2

    Very excited. I watched in horror. Greetings from Turkey 😮

  • @wezzagustus4868
    @wezzagustus4868 3 місяці тому

    7:58 (God) "Behold i give thee the hand of God"
    (Pigeonmania) raises hand "come to me" 😂

  • @dinaaraujo289
    @dinaaraujo289 6 місяців тому +2

    Plumagem excepcional! Parabens.

  • @Semendrija123
    @Semendrija123 5 місяців тому +1

    Again, one of the best videos on the net! Great work my friend!
    And judging by the way how it is filmed, it looks like you have a new camera if I'm not mistaking?
    What is interesting, my one year old male peregrine has started to employ similar tactics these wild falcons are using. I don't know if this is because of the better camera zoom, but I haven't seen this way of hunting to often in your previous videos? The falcon in this video is trying to outclimb the flock, and from the commanding height he is not attacking strait a way, but instead he is following the flock with tighter circles, and the pigeons are working very hard below making bigger circles because they know that the peregrine can reach them at any moment, and that way the falcon is intimidating the nerve wrecking pigeons which panic and separate from the main flock.
    At 5:53 it is obvious that the pigeons that are left to fly with the falcon are not that easily spooked, and they have kept amazingly tight formation. That was really great chase to watch!
    I will try to post you one flight of my male in another message because the you tube can put it in the spam space, where he is employing the same tactic. For the most part only the falcon was in the camera frame because he was patient and didn't want to attack at any opportunity, instead he was following and simulating attack from higher position, while the pigeon was flying like a crazy at the ground level making huge circles. At one point the pigeon panicked and tried to hide under the moving tractor! Luckily the driver saw the action and stopped in time, otherwise I would be left with the dead falcon. Unfortunately, the pigeon didn't make it and was caught by the peregrine.

    • @Pigeonmaniacom
      @Pigeonmaniacom  5 місяців тому +1

      Thank you. Not a new camera, just kept more in the zoom level on longer chases. I cut them a lot previously thinking they are boring. Did you also let the falcon attack flocks of pigeons?

    • @Semendrija123
      @Semendrija123 5 місяців тому

      @@Pigeonmaniacom I don't think they are boring, as a matter of fact this kind of videos are magnificent, it is like the pigeons and the falcon playing the game of chess, and it also shows the physical capabilities of the pigeon and the falcon!
      I have never intentionally let the falcon on the flock of pigeons because there is almost zero chances of success, but on one occasion, my peregrine male went after the pheasant in level flight, and he slowly started to catch up. The pheasant made a huge separation at the beginning of the chase because of its incredible acceleration. They were almost 1km away when the peregrine made the contact with the pheasant, but the pheasant aborted the flight and went for the brushes and saved itself. The falcon started coming back, but some 100 m above the falcon, the flock of wild pigeons went by, and the peregrine decided to take a chance and started to climb.
      Eventually he was able to outclimb the flock and attack from above, and he even singled one pigeon out, but eventually the pigeon was able to out-maneuver the falcon.
      I only had one peregrine that was able to hunt like the wild falcons, and he was even successful against huge flocks of birds, but that type of hunting is not something we falconers want because the falcon can go very far away, and can be easily lost/killed.

  • @KhodovAlexander
    @KhodovAlexander 6 місяців тому +2

    Смотрю и восторгаюсь Голуби умницы, голуби с хорошей нервной системой, к стати об этом надо думать любому голубятнику и на зависть(доброй) хорошей маневренностью Уверен, у них качественный и разнообразный корм И думаю хозяин не отказывает им в овощах огородных, они это заслуживают в высшей мере Уверен, бывают и неприятности, вот поэтому мои замечания Всех благ Вам и Вашим голубям!

  • @alintinca8817
    @alintinca8817 6 місяців тому +3

    Salut! Foarte frumos ! Atacă tare la tine uliul zonă de munte! Un salut din Colmenar Viejo Madrid! Cu respect!

    • @Pigeonmaniacom
      @Pigeonmaniacom  6 місяців тому +1

      Multumesc. Uliul doar ii ridica si apoi asteapta pomana de la soim, soimul face munca grea cu urmarirea.

    • @cezargusetu7695
      @cezargusetu7695 6 місяців тому +1

      Este o placere să-ți urmăresc videoclipurile ❤ ai niște porunbei fenomenali 💪💪💪💪forță, mult noroc cu ei

    • @Pigeonmaniacom
      @Pigeonmaniacom  6 місяців тому

      @@cezargusetu7695 Multumesc.

  • @alanjpoole7274
    @alanjpoole7274 6 місяців тому +2

    It is always difficult to watch these falcon/hawk attack scenes and I'm sorry yopu've lost a few birds again. (You have no reds/mealys left now?)

    • @Pigeonmaniacom
      @Pigeonmaniacom  6 місяців тому +1

      Hi Alan. No reds, I had one from a friend, it was gone in december. I have just got a mealy male in the stock loft, maybe the red color will come back a bit.

  • @leonardobandiera5323
    @leonardobandiera5323 6 місяців тому +3

    Excellent video !!! That's for show us that incredible pigeons trying to survive

  • @dakopierre240
    @dakopierre240 6 місяців тому

    Your pigeons is sky soldiers. Love your videos they fly likea a professionalist between raptors the nature is beautiful also. ❤️

  • @bartlomiejj6678
    @bartlomiejj6678 6 місяців тому +2

    nice video greetings grom Poland
    I feel sorry for these two young ones

    • @Pigeonmaniacom
      @Pigeonmaniacom  6 місяців тому +1

      Thank you. Greetings from Romania.

  • @ricardocordero5042
    @ricardocordero5042 6 місяців тому +1

    MUSTA IDOL YON O GOOD LUCK IDOL 😊👌✌️

  • @johnboom2071
    @johnboom2071 5 місяців тому

    Fucking amazing pigeons....and the breeder ofcourse.

  • @christmascactus40
    @christmascactus40 6 місяців тому +2

    Keep it coming my friend!

  • @and_rei06iancu18
    @and_rei06iancu18 6 місяців тому +2

    prea frumosi.

  • @sergiuvescan9662
    @sergiuvescan9662 6 місяців тому +2

    Nice video! But you lost 2 youngsters in the same day ?

  • @omurkarabudak9949
    @omurkarabudak9949 6 місяців тому +2

    You shot a very nice video, congratulations, what cameras do you use?

    • @Pigeonmaniacom
      @Pigeonmaniacom  6 місяців тому

      Thank you. I use Sony Alpha6600, 18-105. I have to get more zoom, I lost some great scenes.

  • @brahimbarboza209
    @brahimbarboza209 6 місяців тому +1

    🤗👍

  • @involver4499
    @involver4499 6 місяців тому +5

    as i am friend with pigeonmania for 7 years,all i can tell is that i ve never seen pigeons flying so high in the sky in my whole life....the pigeons disapeared up in the clouds with the falcon chasing them

  • @bradmitchell3765
    @bradmitchell3765 6 місяців тому +3

    I'm assuming your birds are released empty. Carrying a crop full of feed can often be a death sentence for a good racing pigeon.

    • @Pigeonmaniacom
      @Pigeonmaniacom  6 місяців тому

      Definitely. 24 hours empty. They only get food after the flight. You can see that by the way they respond to my call in the loft.

    • @bradmitchell3765
      @bradmitchell3765 6 місяців тому

      I'd written that comment before seeing the way they responded when you called them in. Had to laugh at myself @@Pigeonmaniacom

  • @user-hl5pd6yr2h
    @user-hl5pd6yr2h 6 місяців тому +2

    Супер 👍👍👍 🦅🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️💪❤

  • @alinconstantinvoica929
    @alinconstantinvoica929 6 місяців тому +2

    Super porumbei ....super crescător. Sper sa am ocazia să-ți fac o vizita....nu stau foarte departe de tine...si la mine e aproape la fel numai ca eu iarna nu le dau drumul....adica nu am lot pt iarna

    • @Pigeonmaniacom
      @Pigeonmaniacom  6 місяців тому +1

      Multumesc. Si eu am lotul pentru club inchis din Octombrie, ca toti crescatorii. Loturi de iarna avem doar eu si inca un coleg, in rest cerul e gol, fara porumbei. Mai sunt gutanii din oras dar stau printre case.

    • @alinconstantinvoica929
      @alinconstantinvoica929 6 місяців тому +1

      @@Pigeonmaniacom Da...știam...de asta am și zis la final ca eu nu am lot de iarna.

  • @user-yz2ju2hq5l
    @user-yz2ju2hq5l 6 місяців тому +2

    🤝👏👏👏💪👌👌

  • @ebuhafs7643
    @ebuhafs7643 6 місяців тому +2

    15 loses😅😅 are nothing. I lost 30 pigeons in two weeks. The hawks are crazy this winter omg.. i see that small group is better

    • @Pigeonmaniacom
      @Pigeonmaniacom  6 місяців тому

      Of course the smaller the flock is the better they move. My best year was the one when I had the smallest flock. 30 in two weeks - that's lot (but hey, I am better, I lost 30 in a day at the races 😂🤭). You suddenly let them fly after months being locked in the loft? The reason I think you had so many losses.

  • @erdenaykarabudak3575
    @erdenaykarabudak3575 6 місяців тому +2

    Are your pigeons marathon-oriented or short-distance birds and which breeds do you raise?

    • @Pigeonmaniacom
      @Pigeonmaniacom  6 місяців тому

      There are marathon lines, no special breeds, I try to get from the best fanciers. The base are pigeons I selected in the area for 10+ years. Short distance birds have no chance here by the mountains in winter. Based on my experience with them, they are too big, heavy and have low resistance to birds of prey and diseases.

    • @erdenaykarabudak3575
      @erdenaykarabudak3575 6 місяців тому +1

      Aren't short distance birds faster? Am I wrong? I also recommend Van Roy, Stichelbaut and Jan Arden as marathon breeds. I also breed these breeds.

    • @Pigeonmaniacom
      @Pigeonmaniacom  6 місяців тому

      @@erdenaykarabudak3575 Short distance birds are faster in races when over the same distance they keep a higher speed than the long distance birds which are more relaxed and take their time. But in case of an attack both types accelerate the same, the problem is the short distance birds have less agility because of their size and weight. When I had both types years ago, after an attack, when they got home as a flock, the long distance ones were immediately going in the garden relaxed to forage while the short distance ones were going straight in the loft to hide.

    • @Pigeonmaniacom
      @Pigeonmaniacom  6 місяців тому

      I have some Van Roy and Aarden back in the pedigrees, they are very good birds for my area, I love the phenotype. You can see the Van Roy "bronze" on the black of some of my pigeons at the feeding scene.

    • @erdenaykarabudak3575
      @erdenaykarabudak3575 6 місяців тому +1

      I saw the tan, yes I guessed it was the Van Roy breed. One of the best in the Marathon, I admire the Marathon race pigeons and peregrine falcons. Pigeons and peregrine falcons are abundant in your action-packed videos. So I congratulate you, I will continue to watch.

  • @georgergr2719
    @georgergr2719 5 місяців тому

    Salut ! Poti face un videoclip cu ,coronita si ce a rezistat mai multe ierni afară si cât mai multe atacuri

  • @Myke-ix2ui
    @Myke-ix2ui 6 місяців тому +2

    Yiu should call them ANDREAs GIANTS
    AFTER THE WRESTLER ANDREA THE GIANT

  • @PPALoft
    @PPALoft 6 місяців тому +2

    Stakes are high and so is adrenaline. Another pulse in temples video, of course. I was thinking... do you really believe that just one day of "overfeeding" can have a really big impact on the way they fly the next day? What if they had more energy specifically because of the fact that they received more and higher in calories food?

    • @Pigeonmaniacom
      @Pigeonmaniacom  6 місяців тому +1

      Exactly "more energy" is the problem, because when they feel they have extra reserves, they fly too much, too far away and the falcon easily pushes them in the clouds. When I'm not very generous with food, they stay around the loft, after a hawk attack they don't go far and when the falcon comes, it has a very hard time to push them up where is its favorite playground.

  • @Myke-ix2ui
    @Myke-ix2ui 6 місяців тому +2

    At 7:12. I realized that the birds are doing their best not to put the falcon in a dive position because that’s the most dangers maneuver and hard to escape. They are very smart. I have a feeling that deep down this falcons comes here because he gets good training and he have some respect for those pigeons ( I know he is hungry but I am just saying )
    Happy new year Brother

    • @Pigeonmaniacom
      @Pigeonmaniacom  6 місяців тому

      Yes, indeed. Sometimes they dive and have a very hard time escaping.

  • @abrahimjamal9802
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